May 10, 2021 • 28 mins
Tim Tebow is signing with the Jaguars
Colin describes AFC teams in three words
Guest: Jim Jackson
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Wednesday at eight pm Eastern. Now, one of the question
is which team will be in the Thanksgiving game on
Fox on November twenty fifth, Packers, Vikings, Bears, Cardinals or Eagles.
Colin no idea. Hopefully it's well. I mean, listen, if
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if Aaron Rodgers leaves the Packers, boy, is that going
to screw with the schedule? Oh everything? I mean, you
got to take him off those four o'clock Eastern games.
You gotta put him at the one o'clock window. I mean,
Aaron leaving Green Bay. I can't speak for the rest
of the league. I can speak for Fox. It would
change our schedule, changes everything. Yeah. Yeah. By the way,
here's an NFL story. Tim Tebow is going to sign
a one year deal with the Jacksonville Jaguars and be
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a tight end. The reasons it works, Urban Meyer and
Tim Tebow have a very strong relationship. Tim's also I
think with urban Meyer will know his role. It's a
one year deal. We all know Trevor Lawrence is the future.
Here's what worries me. Tebow's fans or wackos, they're just
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it's it's hard to explain in Trevor Lawrence is going
to struggle because he's a rookie and he's going to
have bad games and pick sixes. And that's the reality
of it. And the Tebow fanatics who are always delusional
will come out of the woodwork. Listen, nothing against Tebow.
He's not an NFL quarterback. Well, you want a bunch
of games in a row, A lot of guy Mark Wilson.
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I remember Mark Wilson in the NFL. He want a
bunch of games in a row. Even win a bunch
of games in a row, it doesn't mean you're a
great franchise quarterback. Tebow's not a quarterback in the NFL.
He's not. I argued this years ago, years ago. He's
a tight end. He's an h back. He's a tight end.
He's a good kid. He works hard, he's got a
certain ethos that I think works in the NFL. He
makes your locker room better. But when when he was
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you know, he had that kind of tebow zeit gist
and it was all this. I mean, they were doing
Saturday Night Live skits on it. He was. He was
playing awful football. They put him into the end of
the game, the defense would go into a prevent, He'd
complete five or six passes. The Broncos had a great defense,
Matt Prater would kick a fifty eight yard field goal
and the whacka do Tebow. Fans would be like, yeah,
see why see what? He was awful. So as long
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as Jacksonville and Urban can just say it's one year,
it's a tight end, you're not a quarterback, then it's fine.
But you're gonna have to listen. It's gonna take about
too bad. Trevor Lawrence starts to get all the tebow
nut jobs to get them writing a local paper and
calling sports radio. Jacksonville is a college football town, it's
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a Florida Gator town. And so you know how it is.
We're in a post truth society. You can tell people something.
Trump lost the election by seven and a half million votes,
they still don't believe it. Vaccines overwhelmingly work, people still
don't believe it. It It doesn't matter if you give people
the truth anymore. They go to their wacky Reddit board
and they just have their own reality. So with Tebow,
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be careful the power of conviction. He's got a huge
faith based following that he has got a messiah thing
working that you just can't explains. It's a tsunami. And
if Trevor struggles, I can see that fan base going.
I mean, that's a Florida Gator territory. This is not
Tebo in La. Nobody cares. Nobody here cares about Florida
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Gator football. Nobody in LA it doesn't even exist. They
couldn't tell. If it's Florida Florida state, nobody cares. But
you get down south, you get to Florida Gator territory.
Tibo is the most popular player by a mile by
a mile, in the history of the SEC. Forget Florida
in the history of the SEC. That whole geographical footprint.
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It's Tebow and I don't even think it's a player next,
it's a coach, Saban, maybe Spurrier. I mean Bear Bryant.
He is so far in away the most popular player
in the history of SEC football. I can't even think
of a second second place. Kem Newton was only there
for an hour. I mean, Tebow is you can't sometimes, folks,
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you just can't explain stuff. Tebow's NFL following. When I
worked at the ESPN, they would have articles and people
are like, you guys, never stopped talking about Tebow. We couldn't. Literally,
the Tebow articles in Denver were not only the number
one most downloaded by America, it was like triple over
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the average Giants article, Cowboy article, Packer article, Steeler article.
You know, sometimes you just can't explain stuff. I think
a hundred years from now, it'll be hard to explain
the Trump presidency. I don't know how are you going
to explain? But it is what it is. Stuff gets momentum,
and I hope it works. But I'm telling you it's
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thank god it's urban and thank god it's a one
year contract, so he'll be a part of the Jags. Listen,
it'll be fodder for sports talk radio. You know, you
gotta respect the hustle man. Boy, he's a hustler. He's
gone everywhere, he's done at all. Jim Jackson fourteen years
in the NBA. Couple of games left. Now we're getting
real close to the playing games. Jim Jackson now joining
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US Live. So I watched the Knicks and Clippers start
to finish yesterday, and my takeaway with the Knicks is,
and I feel a little bit with the Sons the
same thing. They're a great regular season story. But I
do think both teams, especially the Knicks, if you play
them five or six times in a row, I don't
know if they have enough offensive juice to beat US
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Philadelphia four times or am I wrong? Do you see
the Knicks as a team that could cobble together a
couple of different playoffs series wins? Well, they could. I mean,
look look at Miami did last year. Now that was
a bubble scenario, or you didn't travel because Miami last year,
keep in mind, didn't have a great role record, So
the bubble, you know, fit right into their narrative. A
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team that wanted to be there and together very similarly
built to what the Knicks are. A team that is
collectively not great, but very good, some pieces that fit together.
Tom Tibonneau, his accountability for each and each individual is
why this team right now, especially Julius Rando, is performing
at a high time, at a high level. So can
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they win a title? Note? I don't think so. Can
they cause some problems in the Eastern Conference playoffs? Of
course they can because they played extremely hardly. Just like
you talked about. Here's what worries me about the Clippers.
They got two stars, they got a three D guy,
Nicholas Batoum. They have a nice bench eighth and scoring.
They have a championship winning coach. But Jim, when I
watched them at the end of games and I saw
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this yesterday, what are they who? I mean? Do you
just give the ball to Rondo and say, dude, just
figure it out your They feel like a good role.
If they were an NFL team, you'd be like, oh,
good roster, no quarterback. I know Kawhi's talented, that doesn't
mean he's a leader. There's a big difference, Jim. You
played with a lot of talented guys, not a lot
of guys with four minutes left, that can go into
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the huddle and verbally, hey, you do this, you do this,
you do this? What are they? Does that concern you
at all? You know it does because you know I
covered the Clippers, so I covered them all years, so
I'm more in tune and in tap of what's going on.
You know, we're off and nine. We were talking about
this the quiet leader Kawhi Leonard. We've seen it before
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with San Antonio, with Tim Duncan. He wasn't really vocal,
Tony Parker wasn't really vocal. Minu a little bit wasn't vocal.
But it was something about that team. You knew in
late game situations, you knew that the voice came from
the bench, but collectively they were able to surround themselves
with guys that, even if it was a Bruce Bowen
a little bit, guys that kind of steered the ship.
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And I understand that the concern you said with the
Clippers is the fact that Paul George or Kawai really
don't have that in their DNA. Could it be Rondo?
That may be something that's in the works right now.
I know ty lewis really looking at in regards to
in the game situation. That game yesterday with the Knicks,
to me, was all about this. The Clippers turned the
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ball over too much. The Knicks don't force turnovers. Okay,
so those were self inflicted errors and the Knicks, a
good team, took advantage of it. What the Clippers have
to do is play with more of a sense of
urgency from the beginning of the game and then carry
that through. That's been some of their flaws Colin a
lot of times during the course of the season, is
that it hasn't been a sense of urgency that we
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need to get this done more so that we can
turn it off and on. And you can't do that
in particular in the Western county. So it's interesting with
the Lakers last year. I remember when d Wade and
Lebron started playing together, it took about thirty games for
them to maybe maybe twenty to really click. Even though
they were best friends. Lebron and a d fit very quickly.
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And my reasoning was Lebron's a leader. Ad is really
comfortable just being a talented too. He doesn't. He doesn't.
He's not gonna fight for it. Wasn't it's not his city,
it's not his team and they just worked. So now
this year they never played together. Ads hurt, Lebron's hurt,
and Lebron's gonna come back, and he says, I'm not
one hundred percent. I can look at them and say, God,
they got no chemistry. They haven't played together all year.
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Or do you look at that and think, once you
have chemistry with the teammate, it's like a bicycle, you
don't forget it. Chemistry comes back in two days. How
do you look at the Lakers having not played together.
They're two stars. Heck, Schroeder has been hurt. I mean
they had new guys. Anyway, do you worry about the
chemistry thing? No, I don't call them because that haven't
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been on the show in a while, and our chemistry
is still one hundred. We pick up where we left
off that. But here's a difference, and this is why
it works for a D and Lebron. The difference with
Lebron and the way both of those two guys had
to have the ball and they had to be successful. Okay, yeah,
Ad is a forward center, so those who work in
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Unison a lot different. The offense is built a little
bit different. So I don't worry about that part of
it with La. I have the game tomorrow night against
the Knicks. We'll Broun play. We don't know. But when
he gets back in the fall, the chemistry those two
have been able to develop, I truly believe will fall
right back in line. Now, keep in mind, nobody's one
hundred percent healthy. When that's a fallacy. Listen, from the
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time you started to play this game or any kind
of sport, you're never one hundred percent healthy because you
have some kind of naggot injury. So it's no such day.
So everybody's playing with some kind of pain or injury. Okay,
you just play through it. But I do believe the
difference with this later team Colin last year Rondo Lebron
trusted Rondo with the basketball. He made plays when both
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were on the court. As good as Dennis Shrewder is
on the defensive end and offensive player. He doesn't give
you that same command, that same leadership, that same playmaking ability.
So now Matt Burden goes back on Lebron James, and
I think that's why they struggled when Lebron was not
in the lineup. It's because they don't have another playmaker
I E. Rondo. That now facilitates to get guys involved.
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That's what their offense is predicated on. So that's gonna
be an interesting dynamic for the Lakers this year, So
keep your eye on that as well. There's a lot
of different arguments for MVP. I've been shouting about Chris
Paul all year and and I like the Knicks. I
don't know if Phoenix can go from bad to title.
The you know, the the NBA is a baby step league.
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Usually it's it's you know you're bad, you get better,
you get a star, you get really good, you went
a couple of playoffs, you went a title. Like I
think Utah it has gone through that progression with Gobert
and Donovan Mitchell Denver similarly, they're about ready to take
the big step. I look at Phoenix and I think
this has been too much too quickly. But I do
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look at Chris Paul and I think, Lord, if the
word valuable means anything, he's it. How do you look
at the Suns and how do you look at Chris
Paul in the awards after the year, Well, it's two things. Condon.
We got sport and we watched this Phoenix team go
aiden on the bubble last year, Okay, so they learned
how to play in some situations where the games matter.
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May not have been playoff, but they played, you know,
a form of basketball that allowed them to be successful.
So now you fast forward to this year. You give
a lot of credit to Chris Paul because of what
he's been able to do, but she's also got to
give credit to Monty Williams and the development and maturity
of this team. Devin Booker matured another year, Cam Johnson
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matured another year, Ayton mature, Okay, mcaal bridges. So it's
not just Chris Paul, even though he's the catalyst, he's
the one that kind of makes this thing run. The
maturity aspect of going through what Phoenix went through last
year and growth that they're confident that also plays into
why Phoenix has actually been an outstanding team through the
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course of this year. Now, the step thing is correct,
because I haven't seen a team in the league as
long as I've been in that all of a sudden
go from you know, young, young and talented to a
championship caliber team where they win it the next year.
Because you got to figure out in the playoffs, you know,
the young talent of how to survive and how to
deal with adversity in the playoffs. And Denver you talked
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about it been through it. Utah has been through it,
you know what I mean? Look at look at Portland.
Portland's been to the worstern Conference finals, but yet they
can't track that cold to get over even with outstanding
play from d Liver and also t J McCollums. So
Phoenix is tracking on it. Can they get your Western
Conference final? Do they have the time to do it?
It'll do but it's a process to it, and a
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lot of times we want to accelerate that because we
see the talent, we see you know what they've been
able to accomplish. So it's gonna be interesting to see
if they land in that second position, how they navigate
their way through the playoffs, having a core of young
talented players that really haven't been in the depth of
the playoffs yet. By the way, do you hear the
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news Tim Tebow's back in the NFL. You're a football fan, hey, missus,
But my boy took care of Irban? Did come on?
You know that's all about? Come on? Urban took care
Now you had a point though, when you were talking
earlier about the fan base and about what happens in
the starting quarterback struggles and what kind of dilemma that is,
because you know right away, as soon as the struggle happens,
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they're gonna be calling for Tebow. And that's an unfair
scenario to both of them, really, because the high expectations
coming from the fan base that Tim Tebow could be
the saber. Now we don't know. That's a long way
down the line, but the scenario still presents itself like that.
Yeah it does. Jim Jackson, good seeing you, Boddy, appreciate it.
Come on, man, always enjoy some ciga ar you know.
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To talk me out of that, I'll tell you. The
Tebow stuff is crazy. It's crazy crazy. It's it's a
one year deal. I'm not people think I'm anti Tebow.
I'm anti Tebo is a franchise quarterback. I'm not anti
Tebo in the locker room, that's not yet. I'm anti
Johnny Manzelle, franchise quarterback and locker room. Tebow' pro locker room.
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Get him in here. I just don't stop with a quarterback.
Top stop. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Herd weekdays in noon Easter nine a Empacific on Fox
Sports Radio FS one and the iHeart Radio app Alex
with the news. No, No, this is the Herd line
news react to the crazy Tebow fans. Colin, That's what.
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That's the only thing that I just hope doesn't get
to him. He's such a good head on his shoulders.
I don't think it will well. He's also significantly more talented. Yeah,
this feels like, you know, and this is not a
knock on Urban, but this feels like, does Urban quite
understand the temperature of the room in the NFL? I don't.
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I Jacksonville is small town Tebow territory. He's a ed
he I don't know if. I don't know if Urban
quite understands how. And this is not a shot at
Tim how disruptive this could become. I have more fans
for him there than they do for Trevor Lawrence. After
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a three game losing stream. He will, by the way,
Gardner Minshew is a much better quarterback in the NFL
than Tebow. Yeah, this happens all the time. Some guys
are built for college football. Some guy there was a
kid at USC named Harold Miner. He was built for
college basketball. They were called him Baby Jordan. He wasn't
built for the NBA. He didn't never shot Adam Morrison,
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Quirky Odd, built for college basketball, not physical enough, did
not work in the NBA. There are guys. Gardner Minshew
is actually a better pro than Tim Tebow, though Tebow
was a much better high school college player. And if
Minshew and Tebow, if you're because Minshew can make every throw,
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Tebow can't. He simply can't make a big chunk of
the throws. It's going to be interesting to see. Well,
let's get to the news. Luca don Chich has had
a hard time controlling his temper lately, and once again
yesterday it got the better of him. Don Chich was
ejected Sunday versus Calves for a run in with Colin Sexon.
The two players were going after a rebound when Colin
bumped Luca. Luca responded by taking a shot at Colin.
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Don Chich came into the game with fifteen technical fouls,
which leaves him with one more before an automatic one
game suspension. Now, yesterday's flagrant two foul won't count towards
the technical count, but it could result in further discipline
from the league office. We were just talking about this
on Friday. Luca is a twenty four to seven complainer.
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It just never ends with him, and then right there
he should be kicked out. You can't do that. You
can whack at a guy. It's obvious. No, he's aware
of it. He brought attention to it. Nude said last
week that he has to calm down. He didn't. So
it's a little bit of an issue there, just a
tad bit. Well, let's move on. Because the Vikings drafted
quarterback Kellen Mon in the third round of the draft,
and GM Rick Spielman let current quarterback Kirk Cousins know
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that Mon's presence is solely as a backup option. I
spoke to him Saturday morning him and talked to his agent,
just let him know that we want to make sure
we have competition behind him. There's no doubt Kirk's our
quarterback going forward, and that you know, we want to
create competition as he who was going to be the backup.
And No, Kirk was great. He understands and you know,
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he knows he's our guy, as agent knows he's our guys. Yeah, whatever,
that's what they said about troubisky in Chicago. Just listen, folks,
you got to be able to read through the lines.
He's our guy until we can get out of this
contract and get somebody with a higher ceiling. All right,
I'll leave it at that. Let's move on. Because there
was a huge crowd in attend for this weekends Canelo
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Avarez and Billy Joe Saunders fight. The crowd was so
large that, in fact, it said a US indoor boxing
event record, despite it's still being a pandemic. More than
seventy three thousand fans attended the fight at the Dallas
Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas, breaking the previous record set
at a Muhammad Ali fight in nineteen seventy eight by
nearly ten thousand people. Colin are just craving live sports
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right now. People are craving anything anything, socialization, restaurants, anything, anything.
But I mean, seventy three thousand, that's a bit much
for me. Canello's not a big personality. He's a great fighter.
He's not a huge but he's not like a Connor
McGregor or Alie or Sugar Ray Leonard. He's not a
huge personality. So that's but I'll tell you what Texas
likes our boxing. Yeah, yeah, Now Texas, you know it's
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one of those there are certain I've always wondered why
they don't have more big fights in Texas, like New
York Vegas. We've always understand. But I mean, there are
a lot of sports fans in Texas. They like their
high school football, they like their baseball, Texas school football.
Jerry's smart enough to know, Yeah, we don't need the coasts.
We can be right smack dab in the middle of
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the country and we'll do I think UFC has had
a couple of in UFC had a couple of cards.
I think Oklahoma or Texas. I'd have to look that up,
but it's not I'm not surprised. The crowd was big. Yeah,
and they might be getting some more fights after this one.
Yeah yeah. Alex with the news, Well that's the news,
and thanks for the herdline news. Tim Tebow's a jag
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for a year. More thoughts on that in the three
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you get your podcasts. We call the three word game,
forcing people to be succinct. You can describe almost anything
in life, especially sports, in three words. Free agency is over,
the draft is over. Tim Tebow did get added to
the Jags as a tight end a one year deal today.
But it's time for a three word game to sum
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up the AFC as we now move into camp. Buffalo
Bills building a juggernaut. They won their first AFC East
Division title since ninety five. Their weakness was a pass
rush and they use their first two picks on pass
rushers and defensive lineman In the draft. The Dolphins Ta's
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new toys. Well, they don't know if TA is gonna
make it, so they have helped him by adding Will Fuller,
by adding players on the outside in the draft. Whether
or not he makes it, he was near the bottom
in the NFL in passing yards per game, So Ta's
got new toys. The New York Jets salot to prove
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that's Robert Sala sorry for that. Basically, this is the
worst roster in the division. This is the worst offensive
line in the division. He's got a rookie quarterback, and
he is a rookie head coach. The New England Patriots
ready to relaunch. Biggest spenders buy a mile in free agency,
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over three hundred million dollars. They went and got two
tight ends, john Us Smith and Henry They got Nelson
Agilar as well, and apparently now Belichick stepping back during
the draft let us scouts take over. So they are
ready to relaunch. The Steelers pitt of misery, lost five
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of their last six. They've lost seven of their last
ten playoff games. They're holding on valiantly to Big Ben.
But this is a team that makes too many mistakes
in big spots and Big Ben, so real signs last
year of erosion. At the end of the year, Browns
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fully baked Brownies Baker Mayfield. For the first time since
nineteen fifty, the Cleveland Browns will start three years in
a row with the same starting quarterback. I'm reading it
right here, first time since nineteen fifty. That doesn't even
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sound right. Jaguars draft to admire as an urban Meyer. Listen.
They went and got Trevor Lawrence at ATM from their
Oh did I go? Did I screw that up and
have the Ravens wrong? Let me do that again. Let's
do the Ravens one more time, my bed Ravens next level, Lamar, Listen.
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He declined in all the key stats last year. They
drafted a wide receiver, Rashad Bateman. They acquired a receiver
Sammy Watkins, so they went after their number one liability perimeter,
speed and playmakers. How about the Bengals brought Burrows Buddy Yep,
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Joe Burrow, and Jamar Chase eighteen hundred yards in college.
Burrows strongly lobbied for him in the off season, and
they went and got, in my opinion, one of the
best college receiver talents since Calvin Johnson at Georgia Tech.
Texans Texas sized mess, only team not to draft a
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player in either the first or second round this year.
Don't love the coaching hire, don't like their front office dysfunction.
Colts WinCE upon a time. Listen. They have the third
fewest turnovers last year in the NFL, and Wentz led
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the NFL in interceptions last year. So part of what
makes this interesting is can they pull back Wentz from
his playmaking just a tad and make him play more
of a cults cultural style. Here we go to the
Jaguars draft to admire as an urban meyer who added
Tim Tebow Today? Listen, they added Marvin Jones, they added
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Carlos Hide, they draft a quarterback and are running back
in the first round. They're gonna go down swinging. I
do think offensively they'll be a very tough out next year.
Titans Nashville no show. Their defense was bad last year.
They tried to shore it up in free agency, but
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I think Ryan Tannehill without Arthur Smith his coordinator, will
step back. How about we go to the AFC West Chargers.
Just protect justin that being Justin Herbert. They had the
lowest rated offensive line in the NFL. Last year, Corey
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Lindsley from the Packers brought over the number one rated
center Broncos need to unlock, meaning get rid of Drew
Locke since Peyton Manning left their thirtieth or thirty first
in every key passing statistic, Chiefs brand new line. Patrick
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Mahomes was pressured more than any quarterback in Super Bowl history.
They went out Joe Tuney, Kyle Long, Orlando Brown. They
fixed it finally, Raiders, just when maybe do you know
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the Raiders have just one winning season since two thousand
and three? Fewest believe it or not in the National
Football League. By the way, Jazz Warriors are Discover card
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All right, we are done for today. Tim Tebow one
year contract with the Jaguars, reuniting with Urban Meyer. He
will be a tight end. It's the hurd
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is which team will be in the Thanksgiving game on
Fox on November twenty fifth, Packers, Vikings, Bears, Cardinals or Eagles.
Colin no idea. Hopefully it's well. I mean, listen, if
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if Aaron Rodgers leaves the Packers, boy, is that going
to screw with the schedule? Oh everything? I mean, you
got to take him off those four o'clock Eastern games.
You gotta put him at the one o'clock window. I mean,
Aaron leaving Green Bay. I can't speak for the rest
of the league. I can speak for Fox. It would
change our schedule, changes everything. Yeah. Yeah. By the way,
here's an NFL story. Tim Tebow is going to sign
a one year deal with the Jacksonville Jaguars and be
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a tight end. The reasons it works, Urban Meyer and
Tim Tebow have a very strong relationship. Tim's also I
think with urban Meyer will know his role. It's a
one year deal. We all know Trevor Lawrence is the future.
Here's what worries me. Tebow's fans or wackos, they're just
(01:31):
it's it's hard to explain in Trevor Lawrence is going
to struggle because he's a rookie and he's going to
have bad games and pick sixes. And that's the reality
of it. And the Tebow fanatics who are always delusional
will come out of the woodwork. Listen, nothing against Tebow.
He's not an NFL quarterback. Well, you want a bunch
of games in a row, A lot of guy Mark Wilson.
(01:54):
I remember Mark Wilson in the NFL. He want a
bunch of games in a row. Even win a bunch
of games in a row, it doesn't mean you're a
great franchise quarterback. Tebow's not a quarterback in the NFL.
He's not. I argued this years ago, years ago. He's
a tight end. He's an h back. He's a tight end.
He's a good kid. He works hard, he's got a
certain ethos that I think works in the NFL. He
makes your locker room better. But when when he was
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you know, he had that kind of tebow zeit gist
and it was all this. I mean, they were doing
Saturday Night Live skits on it. He was. He was
playing awful football. They put him into the end of
the game, the defense would go into a prevent, He'd
complete five or six passes. The Broncos had a great defense,
Matt Prater would kick a fifty eight yard field goal
and the whacka do Tebow. Fans would be like, yeah,
see why see what? He was awful. So as long
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as Jacksonville and Urban can just say it's one year,
it's a tight end, you're not a quarterback, then it's fine.
But you're gonna have to listen. It's gonna take about
too bad. Trevor Lawrence starts to get all the tebow
nut jobs to get them writing a local paper and
calling sports radio. Jacksonville is a college football town, it's
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a Florida Gator town. And so you know how it is.
We're in a post truth society. You can tell people something.
Trump lost the election by seven and a half million votes,
they still don't believe it. Vaccines overwhelmingly work, people still
don't believe it. It It doesn't matter if you give people
the truth anymore. They go to their wacky Reddit board
and they just have their own reality. So with Tebow,
(03:24):
be careful the power of conviction. He's got a huge
faith based following that he has got a messiah thing
working that you just can't explains. It's a tsunami. And
if Trevor struggles, I can see that fan base going.
I mean, that's a Florida Gator territory. This is not
Tebo in La. Nobody cares. Nobody here cares about Florida
(03:46):
Gator football. Nobody in LA it doesn't even exist. They
couldn't tell. If it's Florida Florida state, nobody cares. But
you get down south, you get to Florida Gator territory.
Tibo is the most popular player by a mile by
a mile, in the history of the SEC. Forget Florida
in the history of the SEC. That whole geographical footprint.
(04:08):
It's Tebow and I don't even think it's a player next,
it's a coach, Saban, maybe Spurrier. I mean Bear Bryant.
He is so far in away the most popular player
in the history of SEC football. I can't even think
of a second second place. Kem Newton was only there
for an hour. I mean, Tebow is you can't sometimes, folks,
(04:30):
you just can't explain stuff. Tebow's NFL following. When I
worked at the ESPN, they would have articles and people
are like, you guys, never stopped talking about Tebow. We couldn't. Literally,
the Tebow articles in Denver were not only the number
one most downloaded by America, it was like triple over
(04:51):
the average Giants article, Cowboy article, Packer article, Steeler article.
You know, sometimes you just can't explain stuff. I think
a hundred years from now, it'll be hard to explain
the Trump presidency. I don't know how are you going
to explain? But it is what it is. Stuff gets momentum,
and I hope it works. But I'm telling you it's
(05:13):
thank god it's urban and thank god it's a one
year contract, so he'll be a part of the Jags. Listen,
it'll be fodder for sports talk radio. You know, you
gotta respect the hustle man. Boy, he's a hustler. He's
gone everywhere, he's done at all. Jim Jackson fourteen years
in the NBA. Couple of games left. Now we're getting
real close to the playing games. Jim Jackson now joining
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US Live. So I watched the Knicks and Clippers start
to finish yesterday, and my takeaway with the Knicks is,
and I feel a little bit with the Sons the
same thing. They're a great regular season story. But I
do think both teams, especially the Knicks, if you play
them five or six times in a row, I don't
know if they have enough offensive juice to beat US
(06:00):
Philadelphia four times or am I wrong? Do you see
the Knicks as a team that could cobble together a
couple of different playoffs series wins? Well, they could. I mean,
look look at Miami did last year. Now that was
a bubble scenario, or you didn't travel because Miami last year,
keep in mind, didn't have a great role record, So
the bubble, you know, fit right into their narrative. A
(06:22):
team that wanted to be there and together very similarly
built to what the Knicks are. A team that is
collectively not great, but very good, some pieces that fit together.
Tom Tibonneau, his accountability for each and each individual is
why this team right now, especially Julius Rando, is performing
at a high time, at a high level. So can
(06:44):
they win a title? Note? I don't think so. Can
they cause some problems in the Eastern Conference playoffs? Of
course they can because they played extremely hardly. Just like
you talked about. Here's what worries me about the Clippers.
They got two stars, they got a three D guy,
Nicholas Batoum. They have a nice bench eighth and scoring.
They have a championship winning coach. But Jim, when I
watched them at the end of games and I saw
(07:06):
this yesterday, what are they who? I mean? Do you
just give the ball to Rondo and say, dude, just
figure it out your They feel like a good role.
If they were an NFL team, you'd be like, oh,
good roster, no quarterback. I know Kawhi's talented, that doesn't
mean he's a leader. There's a big difference, Jim. You
played with a lot of talented guys, not a lot
of guys with four minutes left, that can go into
(07:27):
the huddle and verbally, hey, you do this, you do this,
you do this? What are they? Does that concern you
at all? You know it does because you know I
covered the Clippers, so I covered them all years, so
I'm more in tune and in tap of what's going on.
You know, we're off and nine. We were talking about
this the quiet leader Kawhi Leonard. We've seen it before
(07:48):
with San Antonio, with Tim Duncan. He wasn't really vocal,
Tony Parker wasn't really vocal. Minu a little bit wasn't vocal.
But it was something about that team. You knew in
late game situations, you knew that the voice came from
the bench, but collectively they were able to surround themselves
with guys that, even if it was a Bruce Bowen
a little bit, guys that kind of steered the ship.
(08:11):
And I understand that the concern you said with the
Clippers is the fact that Paul George or Kawai really
don't have that in their DNA. Could it be Rondo?
That may be something that's in the works right now.
I know ty lewis really looking at in regards to
in the game situation. That game yesterday with the Knicks,
to me, was all about this. The Clippers turned the
(08:31):
ball over too much. The Knicks don't force turnovers. Okay,
so those were self inflicted errors and the Knicks, a
good team, took advantage of it. What the Clippers have
to do is play with more of a sense of
urgency from the beginning of the game and then carry
that through. That's been some of their flaws Colin a
lot of times during the course of the season, is
that it hasn't been a sense of urgency that we
(08:51):
need to get this done more so that we can
turn it off and on. And you can't do that
in particular in the Western county. So it's interesting with
the Lakers last year. I remember when d Wade and
Lebron started playing together, it took about thirty games for
them to maybe maybe twenty to really click. Even though
they were best friends. Lebron and a d fit very quickly.
(09:11):
And my reasoning was Lebron's a leader. Ad is really
comfortable just being a talented too. He doesn't. He doesn't.
He's not gonna fight for it. Wasn't it's not his city,
it's not his team and they just worked. So now
this year they never played together. Ads hurt, Lebron's hurt,
and Lebron's gonna come back, and he says, I'm not
one hundred percent. I can look at them and say, God,
they got no chemistry. They haven't played together all year.
(09:34):
Or do you look at that and think, once you
have chemistry with the teammate, it's like a bicycle, you
don't forget it. Chemistry comes back in two days. How
do you look at the Lakers having not played together.
They're two stars. Heck, Schroeder has been hurt. I mean
they had new guys. Anyway, do you worry about the
chemistry thing? No, I don't call them because that haven't
(09:55):
been on the show in a while, and our chemistry
is still one hundred. We pick up where we left
off that. But here's a difference, and this is why
it works for a D and Lebron. The difference with
Lebron and the way both of those two guys had
to have the ball and they had to be successful. Okay, yeah,
Ad is a forward center, so those who work in
(10:16):
Unison a lot different. The offense is built a little
bit different. So I don't worry about that part of
it with La. I have the game tomorrow night against
the Knicks. We'll Broun play. We don't know. But when
he gets back in the fall, the chemistry those two
have been able to develop, I truly believe will fall
right back in line. Now, keep in mind, nobody's one
hundred percent healthy. When that's a fallacy. Listen, from the
(10:38):
time you started to play this game or any kind
of sport, you're never one hundred percent healthy because you
have some kind of naggot injury. So it's no such day.
So everybody's playing with some kind of pain or injury. Okay,
you just play through it. But I do believe the
difference with this later team Colin last year Rondo Lebron
trusted Rondo with the basketball. He made plays when both
(11:01):
were on the court. As good as Dennis Shrewder is
on the defensive end and offensive player. He doesn't give
you that same command, that same leadership, that same playmaking ability.
So now Matt Burden goes back on Lebron James, and
I think that's why they struggled when Lebron was not
in the lineup. It's because they don't have another playmaker
I E. Rondo. That now facilitates to get guys involved.
(11:26):
That's what their offense is predicated on. So that's gonna
be an interesting dynamic for the Lakers this year, So
keep your eye on that as well. There's a lot
of different arguments for MVP. I've been shouting about Chris
Paul all year and and I like the Knicks. I
don't know if Phoenix can go from bad to title.
The you know, the the NBA is a baby step league.
(11:46):
Usually it's it's you know you're bad, you get better,
you get a star, you get really good, you went
a couple of playoffs, you went a title. Like I
think Utah it has gone through that progression with Gobert
and Donovan Mitchell Denver similarly, they're about ready to take
the big step. I look at Phoenix and I think
this has been too much too quickly. But I do
(12:08):
look at Chris Paul and I think, Lord, if the
word valuable means anything, he's it. How do you look
at the Suns and how do you look at Chris
Paul in the awards after the year, Well, it's two things. Condon.
We got sport and we watched this Phoenix team go
aiden on the bubble last year, Okay, so they learned
how to play in some situations where the games matter.
(12:29):
May not have been playoff, but they played, you know,
a form of basketball that allowed them to be successful.
So now you fast forward to this year. You give
a lot of credit to Chris Paul because of what
he's been able to do, but she's also got to
give credit to Monty Williams and the development and maturity
of this team. Devin Booker matured another year, Cam Johnson
(12:50):
matured another year, Ayton mature, Okay, mcaal bridges. So it's
not just Chris Paul, even though he's the catalyst, he's
the one that kind of makes this thing run. The
maturity aspect of going through what Phoenix went through last
year and growth that they're confident that also plays into
why Phoenix has actually been an outstanding team through the
(13:14):
course of this year. Now, the step thing is correct,
because I haven't seen a team in the league as
long as I've been in that all of a sudden
go from you know, young, young and talented to a
championship caliber team where they win it the next year.
Because you got to figure out in the playoffs, you know,
the young talent of how to survive and how to
deal with adversity in the playoffs. And Denver you talked
(13:36):
about it been through it. Utah has been through it,
you know what I mean? Look at look at Portland.
Portland's been to the worstern Conference finals, but yet they
can't track that cold to get over even with outstanding
play from d Liver and also t J McCollums. So
Phoenix is tracking on it. Can they get your Western
Conference final? Do they have the time to do it?
It'll do but it's a process to it, and a
(13:58):
lot of times we want to accelerate that because we
see the talent, we see you know what they've been
able to accomplish. So it's gonna be interesting to see
if they land in that second position, how they navigate
their way through the playoffs, having a core of young
talented players that really haven't been in the depth of
the playoffs yet. By the way, do you hear the
(14:18):
news Tim Tebow's back in the NFL. You're a football fan, hey, missus,
But my boy took care of Irban? Did come on?
You know that's all about? Come on? Urban took care
Now you had a point though, when you were talking
earlier about the fan base and about what happens in
the starting quarterback struggles and what kind of dilemma that is,
because you know right away, as soon as the struggle happens,
(14:40):
they're gonna be calling for Tebow. And that's an unfair
scenario to both of them, really, because the high expectations
coming from the fan base that Tim Tebow could be
the saber. Now we don't know. That's a long way
down the line, but the scenario still presents itself like that.
Yeah it does. Jim Jackson, good seeing you, Boddy, appreciate it.
Come on, man, always enjoy some ciga ar you know.
(15:01):
To talk me out of that, I'll tell you. The
Tebow stuff is crazy. It's crazy crazy. It's it's a
one year deal. I'm not people think I'm anti Tebow.
I'm anti Tebo is a franchise quarterback. I'm not anti
Tebo in the locker room, that's not yet. I'm anti
Johnny Manzelle, franchise quarterback and locker room. Tebow' pro locker room.
(15:22):
Get him in here. I just don't stop with a quarterback.
Top stop. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Herd weekdays in noon Easter nine a Empacific on Fox
Sports Radio FS one and the iHeart Radio app Alex
with the news. No, No, this is the Herd line
news react to the crazy Tebow fans. Colin, That's what.
(15:47):
That's the only thing that I just hope doesn't get
to him. He's such a good head on his shoulders.
I don't think it will well. He's also significantly more talented. Yeah,
this feels like, you know, and this is not a
knock on Urban, but this feels like, does Urban quite
understand the temperature of the room in the NFL? I don't.
(16:08):
I Jacksonville is small town Tebow territory. He's a ed
he I don't know if. I don't know if Urban
quite understands how. And this is not a shot at
Tim how disruptive this could become. I have more fans
for him there than they do for Trevor Lawrence. After
(16:28):
a three game losing stream. He will, by the way,
Gardner Minshew is a much better quarterback in the NFL
than Tebow. Yeah, this happens all the time. Some guys
are built for college football. Some guy there was a
kid at USC named Harold Miner. He was built for
college basketball. They were called him Baby Jordan. He wasn't
built for the NBA. He didn't never shot Adam Morrison,
(16:49):
Quirky Odd, built for college basketball, not physical enough, did
not work in the NBA. There are guys. Gardner Minshew
is actually a better pro than Tim Tebow, though Tebow
was a much better high school college player. And if
Minshew and Tebow, if you're because Minshew can make every throw,
(17:10):
Tebow can't. He simply can't make a big chunk of
the throws. It's going to be interesting to see. Well,
let's get to the news. Luca don Chich has had
a hard time controlling his temper lately, and once again
yesterday it got the better of him. Don Chich was
ejected Sunday versus Calves for a run in with Colin Sexon.
The two players were going after a rebound when Colin
bumped Luca. Luca responded by taking a shot at Colin.
(17:32):
Don Chich came into the game with fifteen technical fouls,
which leaves him with one more before an automatic one
game suspension. Now, yesterday's flagrant two foul won't count towards
the technical count, but it could result in further discipline
from the league office. We were just talking about this
on Friday. Luca is a twenty four to seven complainer.
(17:55):
It just never ends with him, and then right there
he should be kicked out. You can't do that. You
can whack at a guy. It's obvious. No, he's aware
of it. He brought attention to it. Nude said last
week that he has to calm down. He didn't. So
it's a little bit of an issue there, just a
tad bit. Well, let's move on. Because the Vikings drafted
quarterback Kellen Mon in the third round of the draft,
and GM Rick Spielman let current quarterback Kirk Cousins know
(18:18):
that Mon's presence is solely as a backup option. I
spoke to him Saturday morning him and talked to his agent,
just let him know that we want to make sure
we have competition behind him. There's no doubt Kirk's our
quarterback going forward, and that you know, we want to
create competition as he who was going to be the backup.
And No, Kirk was great. He understands and you know,
(18:40):
he knows he's our guy, as agent knows he's our guys. Yeah, whatever,
that's what they said about troubisky in Chicago. Just listen, folks,
you got to be able to read through the lines.
He's our guy until we can get out of this
contract and get somebody with a higher ceiling. All right,
I'll leave it at that. Let's move on. Because there
was a huge crowd in attend for this weekends Canelo
(19:01):
Avarez and Billy Joe Saunders fight. The crowd was so
large that, in fact, it said a US indoor boxing
event record, despite it's still being a pandemic. More than
seventy three thousand fans attended the fight at the Dallas
Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas, breaking the previous record set
at a Muhammad Ali fight in nineteen seventy eight by
nearly ten thousand people. Colin are just craving live sports
(19:28):
right now. People are craving anything anything, socialization, restaurants, anything, anything.
But I mean, seventy three thousand, that's a bit much
for me. Canello's not a big personality. He's a great fighter.
He's not a huge but he's not like a Connor
McGregor or Alie or Sugar Ray Leonard. He's not a
huge personality. So that's but I'll tell you what Texas
likes our boxing. Yeah, yeah, Now Texas, you know it's
(19:50):
one of those there are certain I've always wondered why
they don't have more big fights in Texas, like New
York Vegas. We've always understand. But I mean, there are
a lot of sports fans in Texas. They like their
high school football, they like their baseball, Texas school football.
Jerry's smart enough to know, Yeah, we don't need the coasts.
We can be right smack dab in the middle of
(20:12):
the country and we'll do I think UFC has had
a couple of in UFC had a couple of cards.
I think Oklahoma or Texas. I'd have to look that up,
but it's not I'm not surprised. The crowd was big. Yeah,
and they might be getting some more fights after this one.
Yeah yeah. Alex with the news, Well that's the news,
and thanks for the herdline news. Tim Tebow's a jag
(20:35):
for a year. More thoughts on that in the three
word game. Coaching Hires, Free Agency Draft is over three
words AFC today NFC tomorrow. Be sure to catch live
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(21:19):
you get your podcasts. We call the three word game,
forcing people to be succinct. You can describe almost anything
in life, especially sports, in three words. Free agency is over,
the draft is over. Tim Tebow did get added to
the Jags as a tight end a one year deal today.
But it's time for a three word game to sum
(21:41):
up the AFC as we now move into camp. Buffalo
Bills building a juggernaut. They won their first AFC East
Division title since ninety five. Their weakness was a pass
rush and they use their first two picks on pass
rushers and defensive lineman In the draft. The Dolphins Ta's
(22:06):
new toys. Well, they don't know if TA is gonna
make it, so they have helped him by adding Will Fuller,
by adding players on the outside in the draft. Whether
or not he makes it, he was near the bottom
in the NFL in passing yards per game, So Ta's
got new toys. The New York Jets salot to prove
(22:30):
that's Robert Sala sorry for that. Basically, this is the
worst roster in the division. This is the worst offensive
line in the division. He's got a rookie quarterback, and
he is a rookie head coach. The New England Patriots
ready to relaunch. Biggest spenders buy a mile in free agency,
(22:53):
over three hundred million dollars. They went and got two
tight ends, john Us Smith and Henry They got Nelson
Agilar as well, and apparently now Belichick stepping back during
the draft let us scouts take over. So they are
ready to relaunch. The Steelers pitt of misery, lost five
(23:16):
of their last six. They've lost seven of their last
ten playoff games. They're holding on valiantly to Big Ben.
But this is a team that makes too many mistakes
in big spots and Big Ben, so real signs last
year of erosion. At the end of the year, Browns
(23:36):
fully baked Brownies Baker Mayfield. For the first time since
nineteen fifty, the Cleveland Browns will start three years in
a row with the same starting quarterback. I'm reading it
right here, first time since nineteen fifty. That doesn't even
(23:58):
sound right. Jaguars draft to admire as an urban Meyer. Listen.
They went and got Trevor Lawrence at ATM from their
Oh did I go? Did I screw that up and
have the Ravens wrong? Let me do that again. Let's
do the Ravens one more time, my bed Ravens next level, Lamar, Listen.
(24:21):
He declined in all the key stats last year. They
drafted a wide receiver, Rashad Bateman. They acquired a receiver
Sammy Watkins, so they went after their number one liability perimeter,
speed and playmakers. How about the Bengals brought Burrows Buddy Yep,
(24:43):
Joe Burrow, and Jamar Chase eighteen hundred yards in college.
Burrows strongly lobbied for him in the off season, and
they went and got, in my opinion, one of the
best college receiver talents since Calvin Johnson at Georgia Tech.
Texans Texas sized mess, only team not to draft a
(25:07):
player in either the first or second round this year.
Don't love the coaching hire, don't like their front office dysfunction.
Colts WinCE upon a time. Listen. They have the third
fewest turnovers last year in the NFL, and Wentz led
(25:27):
the NFL in interceptions last year. So part of what
makes this interesting is can they pull back Wentz from
his playmaking just a tad and make him play more
of a cults cultural style. Here we go to the
Jaguars draft to admire as an urban meyer who added
Tim Tebow Today? Listen, they added Marvin Jones, they added
(25:51):
Carlos Hide, they draft a quarterback and are running back
in the first round. They're gonna go down swinging. I
do think offensively they'll be a very tough out next year.
Titans Nashville no show. Their defense was bad last year.
They tried to shore it up in free agency, but
(26:12):
I think Ryan Tannehill without Arthur Smith his coordinator, will
step back. How about we go to the AFC West Chargers.
Just protect justin that being Justin Herbert. They had the
lowest rated offensive line in the NFL. Last year, Corey
(26:33):
Lindsley from the Packers brought over the number one rated
center Broncos need to unlock, meaning get rid of Drew
Locke since Peyton Manning left their thirtieth or thirty first
in every key passing statistic, Chiefs brand new line. Patrick
(26:53):
Mahomes was pressured more than any quarterback in Super Bowl history.
They went out Joe Tuney, Kyle Long, Orlando Brown. They
fixed it finally, Raiders, just when maybe do you know
(27:15):
the Raiders have just one winning season since two thousand
and three? Fewest believe it or not in the National
Football League. By the way, Jazz Warriors are Discover card
key matchup tonight, matches all the cash back. You end
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(27:38):
that Discover is accepted in ninety nine percent of the
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All right, we are done for today. Tim Tebow one
year contract with the Jaguars, reuniting with Urban Meyer. He
will be a tight end. It's the hurd
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