This week on 3&Out John discussed some of the biggest stories in sports starting with Dan Hurley deciding to turn down the Lakers job and stay in UCONN (6:08), the impact of Aaron Rodgers skipping mini-camp (20:25), Scottie Scheffler is the best golfer in the world (29:15), and finally the Patriots retiring Tom Brady's numbers and how what Tom did by playing in New England for 20 years is almost as impressive as all of his Super Bowls (44:28).
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three and Out podcasts, and this is our weekend best
up where we take some of our favorite stuff from
the week, put it together in a little podcast for
a little weekend, little weekend audio. And this week Dan
Hurley turned down the Lakers, and it got me thinking
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forever it was like, you just go to the pros
if you get the opportunity. Are we sure that's the
case anymore? Has nil and specifically the Transfer portal actually
made college sports basketball and definitely football a little bit
more like the NFL and given how much they pay
guys more willing to stay. The Aaron Rodgers' situation just
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never dies. That was a big story this week. I'm
not even sure that's the biggest story of the week
when it comes to the Jets, and of course Scotti
Scheffler trying to win the US Open and Tom Brady
number retired this week. Big moment knowing for the Patriots
(02:54):
wherever were number twelve again shocker didn't see that one coming.
And some takeaways from the Jersey retirement night, which I
thought was pretty cool. So let's dive in. But before
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Lakers hater. They are It's what makes sports great. You
like teams and you hate teams, and I'm a jaded
sports fan in the sense of my fandom in my
youth is not quite the same people like Middlecoff. You're
a forty nine Ers fan, It's not the same as
it was when I was a kid. I root for
him to win because it's good for business, but when
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they lose, like I was very, very happy for Andy Reid.
I grew up a diehard San Franciso Giants fan. You
couldn't pay me to watch them play. Right now, I
just do not care. I like sports because of what
I do now. In terms of my fandom for the
stories like this is my business. I'm jealous of people
(05:24):
of their pure fandom that just left me a long time,
and sometimes I wish I could get that back, and
I have it occasionally, definitely when I gamble. But the
Lakers story when Dan Hurley, who's back to back national
championship woes, comes out last week that the Lakers are
all in on him, he's their number one target one,
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it's always a little bit weird. In the NBA or
the NFL, when a story like that comes out and
the job's been vacant for thirty plus days. Now in football,
when people interview college code, a lot of times it's
in early January, and you gotta be a little secretive
because you're right in the swing of recruiting. It's just
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a it's a transitionary time. Some of these teams are
still playing in bowl games. It's weird we're talking we're
in the middle of the summer. So this story always
was a little bizarre to me. I never thought he
was gonna take it, partly because I don't think the
Lakers is a great job, Like Jerry Buss, isn't there
genius And I'm sorry, Like on the ownership scale NFL, NBA,
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i'd put her near the bottom. Now, the franchise, the brand,
it's a big deal, right the Lakers, the Cowboys, the Yankees.
There are certain brands that are just bigger than others.
But when the news came out today, he didn't take
the job, to say the least, I was not shocked.
Now we can read deeper into it. I don't care
that much about all the media dynamics woes for Shams
(06:57):
and whatever. Clearly he used this as leverage. He's gonna
get a pay raise. But forever, college sports was not
as good of a job, especially like when I was younger,
because you got paid more money. Going to the pros,
you got paid more money and you could churn your roster.
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I remember being at Fresno State and one of the
reasons I aspired to get to the NFL. I wasn't
making any money at Fresno State, and when I got
hired in the NFL, I wasn't gonna make any money there.
I thought how cool it was to be able to
if a guy wasn't playing well enough, you could cut him,
you could trade for a guy. You could make constant
roster moves. Three sixty five right, you had the draft,
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you had free agency. In college football for a long time,
it was you know, the signing day, that guy was
on your roster unless he got in trouble or whatever.
But if he was academically ineligible, you were kind of
stuck with him. Well, in the modern day college athletics,
with the transfer portal and with nil it is much
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more closer to professional sports than it ever was. So
when you have a player, you don't like or you
have a player that you didn't sign in high school
and you want to get access to him. It happens
all the time. We see constant movement. So when you
over the years, like obviously guys have made the jump.
When I was with the Eagles, the first guy Howie
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and Jeffrey Lury tried to sign when Andy Reid was
fired was Bill O'Brien. Now, he was reluctant to leave
Penn State because he had just taken over. It was
after Joe Paul. He ended up leaving a year or
two later to the Houston Texans right and ended up
hiring Chip Kelly, who initially pushed back and said no
as well. And if you remember the year before he
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had basically accepted the Tampa Bay job and then pulled out.
Billy Donovan did something similar with the Orlando Magic before
a couple of years later he took the OKAC job.
So we've seen a lot of college coaches be hesitant. Well,
now with the money you're making. For years, it was
like when is the Cowboys or when is someone gonna
sign Lincoln Riley And he kept saying no. It's like, hey, guys,
(09:07):
I make eight to ten million dollars, I answer to nobody.
There is no one at the school who tells me
what to do, and there is definitely no one in
the football operations department that tells me who to put
on my roster. And once you go to the pros,
like you have a GM who has the ear of
the owner, who has a lot of influence, you do
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not have to deal with that. In college sports. We
just had my buddy Derek Ray, who is the GM
of Florida State. He doesn't control personnel. Mike Norvel does.
And if you go to the SEC, or you go
to the Big Ten and you look at their you know,
staff rosters, they all have general managers. Now, those gms
(09:52):
work for the coach, like the offensive coordinator, the D
line coach, the director of football ops. No different, they're
titles different, they do a different role, but the coach
is one hundred percent in charge of the roster. So
now with the cash flowing into the SEC and the
Big Ten, if you don't think teams have sniffed around
(10:12):
on Kirby Smart, you'd be high on sniffing glue. They
surely have. But if you're Kirby Smart and you're making
ten twelve fifteen million dollars in the foreseeable future. You
answer to nobody. There is no owner at the University
of Georgia. The president is surely not telling you what
to do. And when it comes to your football program,
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you are the grand pooh bah. You're the owner, you're
the GM, and you're the head coach. And that is
something you just will never have in pro sports. I
don't care how much juice you have. So the Belichickian
days of full control are dead. They do not exist anymore,
and they're not going to exist moving forward. What was
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the big theme of this offseason? Owners wanted collaborative approaches.
That's why Belichick wasn't getting any interviews. People wanted a
GM and a coach to all be Kumbayo, and we
all know that's impossible. That's never Obviously, you need a
GM and a coach to work and have a good
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working relationship. Andy Reid and Brett Veach are more than
just colleagues. They're very very close friends. Same thing with
John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan or lesneed and Sean McVay,
or you know, John Harbaugh and Ozzie and now DaCosta.
But when a decision needs to get made. Someone has
to say yes or no. Everyone else is essentially just
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making a suggestion. And that's what you get in college sports.
That's what Kirby Smart has, That's what Lane Kiffin has,
That's what Dan Hurley has. That's what John Calipari has had.
For years now, we can say he's an overrated coach.
He's turned down countless NBA jobs because he goes, I'm
already making huge money and no one tells me what
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to do. And I do wonder moving forward, if it's
gonna be harder to get these guys to jump because
all we hear and listen, it's in vogue to complain.
It's in vogue to write articles about everyone in college
sports bitching and moment. But these guys have never made
more money. And while they've always had a lot of power,
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now they have the mechanisms to clear a roster. If
you're not good enough, you just leave. I'm talking about
the player like you can't come back anymore. I forget
the quarterback for Ohio State last year who started what
happened this offseason. They essentially told him, like you're not
good enough, You're not gonna play here, what do you
do get in the transfer portal? See you audios. Before
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that guy just would have been on the team. It
would have been weird because for him to transfer, he
would have lost the season. Now it's like he just leaves,
he gets to play somewhere else, you know, for another team,
and it's just like just kind of rid your hands
of it and the other thing in college sports, and
I've heard this from my scouting buddies who go through
all these programs with nil These coaches now look at
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a lot of players much more transactional, like, hey, we
know you're getting four hundred grand, you better produce and
if you don't, we're gonna tell you you can't play here.
And that's just not really the way.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
It worked before.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So there're gonna be a lot of different angles on
this Dan Hurley situation. But I think when you get
a great job in college sports, in basketball or football,
it's not that much different than the pros anymore. It
actually has a lot more similarities. Now, if you want
to argue, in the pros, you get a guy under contract,
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that's true, like he can't just hit the transfer portal.
But we know in football, unless you get huge guaranteed money.
I can just cut you at any moment, and that's
kind of what's happening in college sports. So not shocked
at all to see Dan Hurley turn down this job.
I would imagine he's gonna get a massive raise, But
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this notion that like you gotta go to the lake
and you do, I don't think so. I don't think
so at all. Now we get into the dynamics of
that roster. This is not an NBA show, but we've
seen this happen a lot. These college coaches turn down
these pro jobs that before probably wouldn't have happened. Now,
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Colin I watched him today and he's always had this thing,
you know, don't try to fight happiness, like there's no
happier on the other side of the fence. And I'm
a huge believer in regionality, like where you're from, the
culture of it. Now you could argue in pro sports,
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we've seen guys from the East Coast come to the
West Coast and guys of the West Coast and go
to the East Coast. I do believe you're at your
best when your personality is with the region in which
you coach. And Dan Hurley's a Northeast guy, he's gonna
move to southern California. It would have been weird. Now.
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I'm also a believer that like that style won't work
or this style will work. I think great coaches, just
like anyone great in their field, can adapt and can
change and can improve on things that are not working.
Jim Harbaugh is a great example. He's probably one of
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the more unique guys who've done both because he's had
so much success in college sports, right dominated San Diego,
resurrected Stanford, and then just won a national championship Michigan.
But he was a fifteen year NFL quarterback, So it's like, yeah,
he didn't coach all those years in the NFL. Beside
his stint with the forty nine ers, he spent fifteen
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years playing. Like that has to account for something. I
love it when people like I can't believe they just
hired Luke McCown or Brian Greasy has no experience. Well, yeah,
he was playing in his twenties and thirties. Sitting in
those meetings with the quarterback coach, with the offensive coordinator,
and with the head coach. It's different. It's not the
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same daily routine, but it's got to account for something.
It's got to equal some sort of transferable knowledge. So
I think Lane Kiffin is a guy that one day
could be coaching in the NFL. Lincoln Starr has definitely dimmed.
I think Kirby Smart is always a guy to keep
an eye on. Ryan Day. I don't know a little
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soft for me. People like you're just a hater. Yeah
kind of am like it's I like hating some people
in sports. That's healthy for that creates this whole business.
You don't have to like everybody. Look at the PGA Tour.
Everyone's friends with everyone. Business is down because liv took
all the bad guys. Like you gotta have some guys
to root against. And I'm not saying Ryan Day doesn't
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know what he's doing. He just wouldn't be my first hire.
Uh but we've seen Billy oh Obviousally Chip had a
little stint. It's not like you'll never see a guy
make the jump again. I just think it's easier to
turn stuff down now, given how much you're making and
how much power you have over changing your roster. It's
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no disputing that Aaron Rodgers has entered kind of this
part of his career where anything he does, anything he
says becomes an immediate headline and for people in the
word business that they love the clicks for us talking
about it. He's just an interesting figure and he's done
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a lot of things that I have found head scratching, right,
like demanding a trade from the Green Bay Packers to
the New York Jets. Thought it was nuts. Now I'm
not Antiahuasca, never tried it, but a lot of people,
you know, it made him go, what's he doing? The
darkness retreat all four self growth, trying to improve, but
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let's face it, most of us couldn't go into a
darkness retreat for three or four days. So he has
just done things in the last couple of years. This
has already added to a guy that I would say
was pretty polarizing before that. And the story about Aaron
Rodgers leaving Mandatory Mini Camp immediately just becomes a massive story.
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And personally, I don't think it's a big deal at all.
I have no clue at this point in time in
recording this where he went. I truly don't care, and
you'd go middlecough, You're a hypocrite, you crush Lamar Jackson
for not showing up. Well, yeah, Aaron Rodgers has been
with the team, just like Patrick Mahomes, just like Justin Herbert,
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just like Josh Allen, all the star quarterbacks for the
last two months. And he took off for a couple
of days in June. Whatever, this is a business. He's
going to get fined. There are repercussions for his actions.
And he didn't care. If he hadn't been there all
of OTA's and then also did this, I'd be like, yeah,
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this is fucking nuts, what's he doing? But he has
been there the entire time, just like last season, the
entire offseason. It has not been an issue. Did he
go to another darkness retreat or to a RFK speaking engagement?
I got no clue. And like I said, I don't
care if you're gonna miss a couple of days in
the offseason. It's not that weird. Players do it all
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the time. Where it gets weird is when you give
Lamar Jackson a couple hundred million dollars and he doesn't
show up until it's mandatory like that. That's not ideal.
It doesn't mean it's gonna impact the fall. It's just
not what the team wants now, the Ravens are well run.
Big picture, they're gonna be fine. This is the Jets
and they have constant issues today on the back of
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the tabloids. I guess New York's one of the lone
big cities where newspapers still matter, and he's everywhere and
it's gone viral and everyone's making fun of him. And
he brought it upon himself because he made the statement
where football has to become the main thing, we can't
worry about all that, and then he just disappears. But ultimately,
like he has been there the entire time. It's not
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an excused absence because you can't have an excuse absence
unless something personally bad is happening to you during mandatory minicamp.
To me, the Jets way bigger issue. Like they know
Aaron Rodgers where he stands, where he's gonna be during
training camp. It's not a big deal. I think the
overreaction's kind of laughable. But he's Aaron Rodgers. It's kind
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of like Lebron James. When anything happens, it becomes a
really big deal. Hell, Kaitlyn Clark has thrown her hat
into this ring. Kaitlyn Clark, could you know, eat a
sandwich weird and be like, what is going on with that?
And that's Aaron Rodgers world that we live in. For
as long as he plays in the NFL, literally everything
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he does, people are going to have an opinion, which
is part of the reason the NFL is so big.
You need athletes that moved the needle like this individual
moves the needle, but he is the least of the Jets.
Worries said this the other day. They literally traded for
a player who wanted a new contract. That's why he
was having issues with the Eagles. He wants more money.
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So if you trade for that player and you do
nothing with the contract, you are inheriting the problem. Right
When the Miami Dolphins traded for Tyreek Hill, the Chiefs
had an issue because Tyreek wanted a ton of money
and they weren't gonna pay him, so when they traded him,
if Miami had not reworked his contract and given him
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a huge contract extension, they would have also had an
issue on their hands. But what did they do? They
gave him a massive extension. The Raiders Khalil Mack was
not showing up to training camp until he got eighty
five ninety million dollars guaranteed. Then the Bears trade a
couple ones of three whatever form. If they did not
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give him the contract extension, they would have inherited the problem.
But they gave him a contract extension. The Jets trade
for a Son Reddick who has not stepped foot in
their building. Their coaching staff, their front office do not
know the player. They do not know the guy, and
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they have not given him new contract and he's mia.
That to me is the Jets issue because it's symbolic
of do you guys know what you're doing. Aaron Rodgers
can do things that you think are weird. You don't
agree with. One thing that is not disputable is when
he's on the field. He's a good player, and we
know he's gonna be on the field if his achilles
or body is together. Is a Son Reddick ever gonna
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show up? Is he ever gonna come? Do they ever
plan on giving him a contract extension? Or did they
just trade for a player not realizing the severity of
the issue. Did Howie Roseman just completely fleece them? If
Aaron Rodgers is bad this season, There is no debate
that the Packers fleeced the Jets on Aaron Rodgers. But
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we all universally agree that if we were in Joe
Douglas's seat, if we were Woody Johnson or Woody's brother
who was running it at the time, maybe he wasn't,
maybe wood he was already back, that we all would
have made that trade, every single one of us. And
they help Aaron Rodgers took a contract discount, gave them
back like thirty million dollars. He's actually been pretty easy
(23:38):
for them to deal with. The only issue was his
achilles ripped five plays into a season in twenty twenty three.
This is sound. Reddick issue is a problem. It's one
thing when you have players that you've drafted on your
own team that have contract issues. Brandon Nyuk contract issue
(24:00):
right now. You know him like you know what he
stands for. He knows you like everyone's on the same page.
It's about money. But you feel very comfortable with the guy.
Why because you've spent years around them. The Jets haven't
spent any time around this player. And let's face it,
they trade it for him because they kind of need
them because they just lost one of their better pass
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rushers to the Eagles. So they replaced him with the
Eagles problem, and now it's become their problem because they
clearly refuse to give him a contract. So Aaron Rodgers
are gonna get the headlines, but I promise you he's
the least of their warriors. Scottie Scheffler is on track,
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I think, give or take, to have a fifty million
dollars on the course. That doesn't count his other sponsors,
obviously Nike, because of the level in which he's playing.
I would imagine he's having a twenty million dollar Nike season.
That this guy's gonna make seventy eighty million dollars this season.
So one thing some of these guys benefited from because
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the live guys took off that we said, how are
they ever gonna make that type money? And Scottie Scheffler
and Hovelin are proving if you play well on the
PGA Tour, you can have a twenty four month stretch
where you make a hundred million dollars and you don't
have to play all these stupid tournaments that let's face it,
none of these live guys feel very excited do play.
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They're doing it because they got paid, which is the
reason A lot of people in America work because you're
paying me to do it, And for a long period
of time, it felt like guys like to compete. Obviously,
in the NFL and the NBA they get paid a lot,
but when the ball tips in big games where the
ball is snapped or kicked off, there's an excitement level
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as a competitor. Live does not have that. The PGA
Tour still brings that to the table, and just a
independent consumer, I just like watching fun shit. I'm all
into the NHL playoffs. I am glued into the Stanley Cup.
I have a little money dabbled on Edmonton, but it's
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just a fantastic product. The level in which they compete,
the intensity, how much you know it means, the history
of it. No different than the NBA finals. I don't
watch as much NBA now is I did throughout the
majority of my life, but the playoffs still matter. I
know what's on the line. I know the history of
being a finals MVP, winning a ring, what that means
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for guy's career, what it means to not win a ring,
and that's what you watch memorial. You know what's on
the line. You know Tiger won there five times, you know,
it's Jack Nicholas's tournament, and you watch Scotty just embracing
all this and playing at the level in which he's playing.
But like I said, that arrest in Louisville, I truly
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is the best thing that ever happened to him, because
he's not that interesting of a guy, and really his
play he's not that animated. He's not doing crazy fist pumps,
he's not dropping f bombs. He's not must watch in
terms of all the extracurricular stuff, but he's must watch
in terms of now he's winning at the rate because
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we love winners in America. And when you add in
the arrest that it looked like it was gonna derail,
I don't know something, and it didn't really at all,
And I bet on him two weeks later when Davis
Riley and where were they playing in Texas had a
career week and Scotty was still right there, finished second.
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So it's been really really entertaining to watch, and I
think his legend grew. And now we can laugh at
it because of that mugshot because they put him in
an orange jumpsuit and then he continues to answer the belt,
this is not like Michael Jordan was the best player,
and his team's really good. For the most part, he's
gonna win if he plays well. Golf's not like that.
(28:02):
You're playing one hundred and fifty people and if you
have one bad round of the four rounds, it's really
easy to just finish seventh. Even if you're Tiger Woods
or Ernie Palmer or Jack Nicholas or Nick Faldo, whoever.
In every fucking week, it's like, this guy's gonna win,
this guy's gonna win, this guy's gonna win. Sometimes I
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laugh when people talk about the odds, like, you know,
Tiger's odds. In two thousand and one, we did not
I consume sports. I followed sports religiously. Obviously, gambling is
legal now, so we talk about it much differently. People
were not gambling. I mean, you had to be a true, true,
degenerate Billy Walters gambling. Now, the accessibility the odds over
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the last I would say decade, but really five six years.
To me, the odds mean a lot more because the
way we're discussing it, and this guy going into majors
is three to one, I'm like, yeah, probably right, Like
would it be crazy if you put him two to one, Like,
what is the number? You couldn't put him minus one hundred,
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right or minus one ten because it's still a golf tournament.
But he is creeping closer and closer to basically being
a one to one favorite to win a golf tournament
against one hundred and fifty other people, where elite players
are sixteen to one, twenty to one, twenty five to one.
What this guy doing, What this guy is doing right
now is just remarkable. I mean it is to me.
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It's must watch TV. And I think the arrest kind
of brings in the casual fan because his name recognition.
He's not Caitlin Clark or Patrick Mahomes in terms of
name recognition. But I think if you're a casual guy
and you're like, I'm not a big golf guy, but
I'll pay attention to some majors. You know exactly who
Scottie Scheffler is, and you know exactly kind of what's
going on right now that essentially he wins every single week. Now,
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part of to grow this brand, you need a rival.
Tiger's a once in one hundred year player. Whether he
had a rival or didn't, it wasn't gonna matter. He
was a comet ship on his own. For the most part,
players need someone that is at least viewed as a foe,
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if not an equal, And right now Scotty does not
have that. Colin Moricowa whatever he did early on this
season to figure it out. He looks freaking awesome. He
was awesome at Memorial, he was awesome at the PGA Championship,
he was awesome at the Masters. He looks fantastic. I
think he is an auto top five top ten bet
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this week. He is Taylor. He could win this tournament.
But if Scotty's right there, you're like, he's not gonna
beat Scotty. Scheffer Xander Schoffley, who has had an elite
career finally got over the hump at Valhalla, is having
statistically and you could argue the best year of his career.
Another guy I think an auto top ten, top five bet.
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Either one of those guys gonna be Scotty's rival. Don't
really see it, not saying those guys can't win and
have continue to have great careers and even win another
major or two. But Tiger had Phil who I think
when you look back, you go, I don't know where
Phil ranks, you know, Tiger jack one to two in
some order, and then there's a group of five or
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six guys. I Phil is a top ten player of
all time, and you could argue he's closer to five
than he is ten. But the rivalry those two guys,
it was a rivalry more by yes, Tiger and Phil,
but Tiger dominated him. But Phil was like a worthy,
worthy foe. And I think Ernie L's I would throw
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him right up there. I actually think the guy, and
this is the sad part about the division in golf,
is Bryson d Schambeau. Because one thing Phil had was like,
Phil was pretty famous. So to have like a legit
foe at the highest level of pro sports, that guy's
gotta be pretty famous, right. Larry and Magic Michael kind
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of went through a rotation of him, but Lebron and Curry,
Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. Forever it
was Manning and Brady. I think Bryson has a chance
to be the most famous golfer. I'm not saying better
than Scotty, but his fame. Dude's a killer. This guy.
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If it was if he was an NFL player. We
talk about Bryson d Chambeau like the number one high
school recruit, the number one college player, and has come
into the NFL and dominated and gone to Pro Bowls constantly.
He obviously won a US Open, not the best US Open.
It was basically just hit it straight a million feet
and jump pump wedges onto the green. But to me,
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Bryson's more closely a four or five major win guy
than he is a one major win guy. The other thing,
I think he's kind of become comfortable with who he is.
He's nerdy, didn't have a lot of friends on the
PGA Tour. A lot of people, I think rumors were
people didn't like him very much. Whether he was a
bad guy, immature guy, whatever, that's a fact. And now
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it feels like he's relaxed a little bit. But he's
still an elite player and live, whether he played on Live,
whether he played on the Corn Ferry Tour, whether he
played on the Asian Tour. I don't think Bryson would
be faced because he loves golf to his soul. A
lot like Phil, a lot like Tiger Woods, a lot
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like Scotti Scheffer. They are addicts, like the reason Patrick
Mahomes is so good. Obviously he's physically gifted. He's a
twenty four to seven football addict. Same thing with Peyton Manning,
same thing with Tom Brady, same thing with Drew Brees,
same thing with Christian McCaffrey, Same thing with Lebron James,
same thing with Steph Curry. This is not just yeah,
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we do this for a job, we make a lot
of money. No, this is a deep driven passion of mine.
And the other thing with Bryson is he's become a showman.
And really since he got big and was sucking down
all those you know, the protein shakes and the peanut
butter sandwiches and just put on an extra thirty pounds
and he starts vomiting over the water, pointing at the sky. Say,
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I think Bryson figured something out. Whether you like him,
whether you hate him, whether you think he's a nerd
or whatever, you are dialed in when he's playing. And
I like him a lot this week, and I would love,
I mean I'd pay for it to get these two
guys in the mix on Saturday and Sunday. Now, this
tournament is, from all accounts of everyone on the ground,
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is going to be really hard. The greens look like
they're concrete. Obviously, there's not rough at this course like
there isn't traditional golf courses, but there's the native land.
You can miss it into weird spots and it can
become very difficult if you hit fairways. It's a second
shot golf course. But it's also pretty long, like it's
seventy six hundred yards and Scotti, Scheffler hits long irons
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really well. Bryson d Chambeau elite at it, calling more
Kawa pretty freaking good. Same thing with Ander Schoffley. To me,
that's the group I'm betting on. I have a ton
of the problem is for me to get my rocks off,
I'd have to put a couple grand on Scotty at
three to one, right, So I was like, you know,
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I'm gonna parlay him with a lot of people, and
I have a million parlays mixed up with Scotti and
Colin and Bryson and Xander and even a little Fleetwood
as top tens in top twenties a deck. He's another guy,
elite ball striker, fantastic short game, gonna be in the mix.
So this is going to be a big name tournament.
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Obviously it's gonna be shocking if Scotty doesn't win. But
I think this is and hopefully so, where the kind
of rivalry begins with Scotty and Bryson, because I just
don't I don't think it's doing it for the casual
with more Kawa and Xander, despite how great those players are.
Bryson kind of evokes emotion deep in your soul when
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you watch him. If you like sports, I kind of
want to watch this. Something's there, something's going on, and
sometimes athletes just have that. When I was a kid, like,
I'm not a big tennis guy, but I didn't know
I was gonna be bald at the time, even though
my entire family didn't have a blade of hair on
top of their head. I loved Agassy. Something about Agasy
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Why because you watch them he just created emotion inside you.
And we've seen it forever with football and basketball players,
same with baseball players when I was younger. But in
these individual sports you need some characters, and to me,
Bryson is the ultimate mix of character, weird out there
unlike anyone else, and an elite player. So I hope
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Bryson brings his a game. He has a ton of
momentum come into this, played well at Augusta, played awesome
at the PGA, And like I said, I don't think
he's phased by the irrelevancy of these golf tournaments. I
don't think he's phased at all. Now, I don't you know,
there's a lot of other names out there. Rory count
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me out. Though love is not dead. I just saw
they're gonna reconcile him and his wife when it comes
to their divorce, So no longer divorce. Keopka. I hammered
Keopka at some of the earlier majors, like I'm out.
I'm just not gonna do it. Not saying that he
can't do it, but I'm not going to mess around
with that. And it's sad. I mean, DJ's like seventy
(37:28):
five or eighty to one. But should be fun. Should
be fun. So I from a recommendation standpoint of gambling,
I think if you want some action on Scotty, like
you can put one hundred bucks Scottie to win and
then parlay some top fives and top tens with the Xanders,
with the Moricows, with the Bryson's, with the hadeckis with
the Fleetwoods, there's a ball striker's golf course, so I
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need guys from one hundred and eighty yards, one hundred
ninety yards, two hundred yards that can pelt the middle
of the green. Because there are a lot of runoffs
on this golf course, you get put in some weird spots.
Hovelin is an interesting guy. Is a short game, good enough,
but he's definitely shown some signs of life. He would
definitely be a wild card for me if you want
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to put him in some parlays. I wouldn't be against
that at all. But like I said, overall, have a
hard time seeing Scottie not win this tournament. One thing
I've always thought was really cool in pro sports when
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a guy spends his entire career with one organization. And football,
unlike the NBA, for example, you get cut the moment
you start slipping, they get rid of you. I mean,
before Tom Brady existed, the best quarterback of all time
was traded and Bill Walsh had been trying to replace
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him for like half a decade. So football, the meritocracy
that's involved, regardless of your your stature, your status, your
previous accomplishments. It's very, very cutthroat, but we still have
a long line of examples. I mean, Peyton Manning was
once cut right now. He had a bad neck and
we didn't know at the time if he could play again.
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He's even gone on records. It was a scary time
for his career, but they got him. Now they were
getting Andrew Locke, but still Peyton Manning was available on
the open market. Tom Brady played his last three years
for another team. But it wasn't because he wanted to leave.
It was because Bill was like, yeah, I'm short in
a forty two year old. I don't think he'll be
I think he's gonna fall off a cliff. And he didn't.
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He won an MVP, he won a Super Bowl and
obviously cemented his lay, I mean, took it to another level.
But as Tom said, and I didn't quite understand. I
saw a lot of posts about it over the last
couple of weeks that there was like a Tom Brady
number retirement. I guess I had assumed it was more
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of like craft Patriot people former players, kind of an
in house thing. It was like a football game. I mean,
they did a panorama around the Stadium and that place
was packed. It was like the freaking Rolling Stones were there.
And as Tom Brady said last night, I'm Tom Brady
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and I'm a Patriot, and I think a lot like
Michael Jordan, who played two years for the Wizards. Now,
unlike Tom, he won a championship into the Bucks. Tom
means a lot. But I think it's very, very powerful
when a guy and I think it's cool for fans
because you root for that human being until the day
he dies. He means everything to you. And I know
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as a fan of the San Fransco Giants, like Buster
Posey's Hall of Fame career, every single at bat was
with the San Francisco Giant uniform. The reason Lebron James
would never sniff Kobe Bryant is because he's a mercenary.
He just jumps from team to team Kobe's entire career.
And I don't mean like on the all time list
we could argue Lebron's about player. I just mean with
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Laker fans because Kobe's their guy. Kobe was their guy
from the start till the finish. And the NBA Player
Empowerment era, which got so much credit with the media
was cool for Twitter, not great for fans, like who's
how's Kevin Durant. Ever, having that moment and the powerful
thing about the NFL is look at some of the
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young guys now and listen, Tom, it was like a
religious experience. He took the Patriots to nine Super Bowls.
He won six of them that career. Even Patrick Mahomes
more than likely a high probability, will not replicate that.
So it's an outlier career. We got twenty years with
this guy, this California kid who brought us to greatness,
(41:46):
and he's our guy, no matter how weird his face
may look with botox and plastic surgery, or how his
hair has changed over the years with hair plugs and listen,
I'm not hating. I lost my hair and I just
chose probably at the time I lost that, I definitely
could have afforded hair plugs, and now it's just too late.
I'm just rocking with it. But it doesn't matter how
weird things get. He's our guy. And growing up I
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saw the power of it with forty nine er guys
in the Walsh in the in the nineties era. How
passionate people that support those guys and I think it's
really cool when someone can spend the majority, if not
their entire career. Now, obviously in pro sports, you've gotta
be good to even have an opportunity to do that.
But like Aaron Donald just retired, played for one franchise,
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Like that's that's a powerful thing. Now. I don't know,
you know, the Rams franchise fan base. It's not exactly
like playing, you know, for the Cowboys or the Eagles.
But Jason Kelcey recently right retired. He's a Philly guy.
He's not from Philly's from Ohio. He went to Cincinnati.
Yet the rest of his life he's gonna live in Philadelphia,
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I would imagine, and that's his home and those are
now his people. I think that's the cool part about sports.
I was taking my little dog on a walk last night,
and the NBA Finals I bet on the Mavericks obviously
to win the series not going well. That was dumb,
and I swear to God, probably I don't know half
(43:15):
the homes that I could kind of see in, especially
in the backyard as we're kind of roaming around, I
could see in their backyards. I just saw sports on
the NBA Finals on and It's still one of the
last things that we all agree that, like, we kind
of just watch when it matters, when big events happen.
Football is kind of an outlier because we watched the
regular season in the playoffs, but when the baseball playoffs come,
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it'll just be on people's TVs. Obviously, the NBA Finals
is just on people's TVs. March madness, and we all
kind of gravitate toward that, and it's a conversation starter
obviously for me in what I do. When I'm just
out and about and I meet someone, you can always
talk about sports. And I think when you get to
Tom Brady, obviously he's been in our life for a
(43:59):
long long time, but like that moment as a sports fan,
it couldn't have gone any better. But whenever you get
a great player and you get to live through it,
his youth, his marriages, his children, his ups and downs,
his struggles, his greatness, it just bonds you to that
person for a long long time. And I'm not trying
to be sappy here, but I thought some of the
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videos I saw were just really really cool. And the
Belichick thing, clearly the Crafts tried to destroy his name
in that Apple documentary. I've said that I stopped watching
it after like episode five. I just thought it was stupid.
It wasn't for me. I don't know if it did
well or didn't do well in terms of like retention
on an episode to episode basis, but I just thought
(44:45):
the treatment of a guy who was a big part
of and as Tom Brady said last night, it wasn't you,
it wasn't me, it was us, and it just completely
shit on him was stupid. Patriots fans knows, and they
gave him a standing I swear to God for like
five minutes, and it was cool. And those are the
type things like you don't get in the rest of society.
(45:08):
You don't get something like not everyone in that stadium
sees eyed. I has the same thoughts on society, has
the same beliefs on the tax system. But like everyone's
bonded over the Patriots, over Tom over Bill, what they
all got to experience from two thousand and one to
twenty eighteen or nineteen, Like, you can never take that
(45:28):
away from all those people. And obviously Boston, like Philly,
like New York, I mean, passionate place, but it's it's
no different than people in Alabama they got to bond
over Nick Saban for the last fifteen years, or people
now in Georgia with Kirby Smart right, or a lot
of people in my life that are forty nine er
fans that have had this run for five years of
doing a lot of winning. It's cool, it's fun, it's powerful.
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It's what makes I think this stuff more than interesting.
It's just a connectivity of kind of our world. And
Tom obviously, you know, given that region, no one ever
did for them. I guess Bill Russell way back in
the day, but in the modern day era, and to
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really just embrace the place. And it was just it
was cool to watch, so uh, cool moment, cool thing
by the crafts Robert showed up with a girl. Maybe
it's his wife girlfriend. I can't keep track of his
love life. Who had to be forty five years younger
than him. Shows you man, would she be with him
if he was a plumber? Pays to be rich. I
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forever it was like, you just go to the pros
if you get the opportunity. Are we sure that's the
case anymore? Has nil and specifically the Transfer portal actually
made college sports basketball and definitely football a little bit
more like the NFL and given how much they pay
guys more willing to stay. The Aaron Rodgers' situation just
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never dies. That was a big story this week. I'm
not even sure that's the biggest story of the week
when it comes to the Jets, and of course Scotti
Scheffler trying to win the US Open and Tom Brady
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Lakers hater. They are It's what makes sports great. You
like teams and you hate teams, and I'm a jaded
sports fan in the sense of my fandom in my
youth is not quite the same people like Middlecoff. You're
a forty nine Ers fan, It's not the same as
it was when I was a kid. I root for
him to win because it's good for business, but when
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they lose, like I was very, very happy for Andy Reid.
I grew up a diehard San Franciso Giants fan. You
couldn't pay me to watch them play. Right now, I
just do not care. I like sports because of what
I do now. In terms of my fandom for the
stories like this is my business. I'm jealous of people
(05:24):
of their pure fandom that just left me a long time,
and sometimes I wish I could get that back, and
I have it occasionally, definitely when I gamble. But the
Lakers story when Dan Hurley, who's back to back national
championship woes, comes out last week that the Lakers are
all in on him, he's their number one target one,
(05:46):
it's always a little bit weird. In the NBA or
the NFL, when a story like that comes out and
the job's been vacant for thirty plus days. Now in football,
when people interview college code, a lot of times it's
in early January, and you gotta be a little secretive
because you're right in the swing of recruiting. It's just
(06:09):
a it's a transitionary time. Some of these teams are
still playing in bowl games. It's weird we're talking we're
in the middle of the summer. So this story always
was a little bizarre to me. I never thought he
was gonna take it, partly because I don't think the
Lakers is a great job, Like Jerry Buss, isn't there
genius And I'm sorry, Like on the ownership scale NFL, NBA,
(06:34):
i'd put her near the bottom. Now, the franchise, the brand,
it's a big deal, right the Lakers, the Cowboys, the Yankees.
There are certain brands that are just bigger than others.
But when the news came out today, he didn't take
the job, to say the least, I was not shocked.
Now we can read deeper into it. I don't care
that much about all the media dynamics woes for Shams
(06:57):
and whatever. Clearly he used this as leverage. He's gonna
get a pay raise. But forever, college sports was not
as good of a job, especially like when I was younger,
because you got paid more money. Going to the pros,
you got paid more money and you could churn your roster.
(07:18):
I remember being at Fresno State and one of the
reasons I aspired to get to the NFL. I wasn't
making any money at Fresno State, and when I got
hired in the NFL, I wasn't gonna make any money there.
I thought how cool it was to be able to
if a guy wasn't playing well enough, you could cut him,
you could trade for a guy. You could make constant
roster moves. Three sixty five right, you had the draft,
(07:41):
you had free agency. In college football for a long time,
it was you know, the signing day, that guy was
on your roster unless he got in trouble or whatever.
But if he was academically ineligible, you were kind of
stuck with him. Well, in the modern day college athletics,
with the transfer portal and with nil it is much
(08:03):
more closer to professional sports than it ever was. So
when you have a player, you don't like or you
have a player that you didn't sign in high school
and you want to get access to him. It happens
all the time. We see constant movement. So when you
over the years, like obviously guys have made the jump.
When I was with the Eagles, the first guy Howie
(08:25):
and Jeffrey Lury tried to sign when Andy Reid was
fired was Bill O'Brien. Now, he was reluctant to leave
Penn State because he had just taken over. It was
after Joe Paul. He ended up leaving a year or
two later to the Houston Texans right and ended up
hiring Chip Kelly, who initially pushed back and said no
as well. And if you remember the year before he
(08:45):
had basically accepted the Tampa Bay job and then pulled out.
Billy Donovan did something similar with the Orlando Magic before
a couple of years later he took the OKAC job.
So we've seen a lot of college coaches be hesitant. Well,
now with the money you're making. For years, it was
like when is the Cowboys or when is someone gonna
sign Lincoln Riley And he kept saying no. It's like, hey, guys,
(09:07):
I make eight to ten million dollars, I answer to nobody.
There is no one at the school who tells me
what to do, and there is definitely no one in
the football operations department that tells me who to put
on my roster. And once you go to the pros,
like you have a GM who has the ear of
the owner, who has a lot of influence, you do
(09:29):
not have to deal with that. In college sports. We
just had my buddy Derek Ray, who is the GM
of Florida State. He doesn't control personnel. Mike Norvel does.
And if you go to the SEC, or you go
to the Big Ten and you look at their you know,
staff rosters, they all have general managers. Now, those gms
(09:52):
work for the coach, like the offensive coordinator, the D
line coach, the director of football ops. No different, they're
titles different, they do a different role, but the coach
is one hundred percent in charge of the roster. So
now with the cash flowing into the SEC and the
Big Ten, if you don't think teams have sniffed around
(10:12):
on Kirby Smart, you'd be high on sniffing glue. They
surely have. But if you're Kirby Smart and you're making
ten twelve fifteen million dollars in the foreseeable future. You
answer to nobody. There is no owner at the University
of Georgia. The president is surely not telling you what
to do. And when it comes to your football program,
(10:35):
you are the grand pooh bah. You're the owner, you're
the GM, and you're the head coach. And that is
something you just will never have in pro sports. I
don't care how much juice you have. So the Belichickian
days of full control are dead. They do not exist anymore,
and they're not going to exist moving forward. What was
(10:57):
the big theme of this offseason? Owners wanted collaborative approaches.
That's why Belichick wasn't getting any interviews. People wanted a
GM and a coach to all be Kumbayo, and we
all know that's impossible. That's never Obviously, you need a
GM and a coach to work and have a good
(11:17):
working relationship. Andy Reid and Brett Veach are more than
just colleagues. They're very very close friends. Same thing with
John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan or lesneed and Sean McVay,
or you know, John Harbaugh and Ozzie and now DaCosta.
But when a decision needs to get made. Someone has
to say yes or no. Everyone else is essentially just
(11:39):
making a suggestion. And that's what you get in college sports.
That's what Kirby Smart has, That's what Lane Kiffin has,
That's what Dan Hurley has. That's what John Calipari has had.
For years now, we can say he's an overrated coach.
He's turned down countless NBA jobs because he goes, I'm
already making huge money and no one tells me what
(12:02):
to do. And I do wonder moving forward, if it's
gonna be harder to get these guys to jump because
all we hear and listen, it's in vogue to complain.
It's in vogue to write articles about everyone in college
sports bitching and moment. But these guys have never made
more money. And while they've always had a lot of power,
(12:22):
now they have the mechanisms to clear a roster. If
you're not good enough, you just leave. I'm talking about
the player like you can't come back anymore. I forget
the quarterback for Ohio State last year who started what
happened this offseason. They essentially told him, like you're not
good enough, You're not gonna play here, what do you
do get in the transfer portal? See you audios. Before
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that guy just would have been on the team. It
would have been weird because for him to transfer, he
would have lost the season. Now it's like he just leaves,
he gets to play somewhere else, you know, for another team,
and it's just like just kind of rid your hands
of it and the other thing in college sports, and
I've heard this from my scouting buddies who go through
all these programs with nil These coaches now look at
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a lot of players much more transactional, like, hey, we
know you're getting four hundred grand, you better produce and
if you don't, we're gonna tell you you can't play here.
And that's just not really the way.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
It worked before.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So there're gonna be a lot of different angles on
this Dan Hurley situation. But I think when you get
a great job in college sports, in basketball or football,
it's not that much different than the pros anymore. It
actually has a lot more similarities. Now, if you want
to argue, in the pros, you get a guy under contract,
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that's true, like he can't just hit the transfer portal.
But we know in football, unless you get huge guaranteed money.
I can just cut you at any moment, and that's
kind of what's happening in college sports. So not shocked
at all to see Dan Hurley turn down this job.
I would imagine he's gonna get a massive raise, But
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this notion that like you gotta go to the lake
and you do, I don't think so. I don't think
so at all. Now we get into the dynamics of
that roster. This is not an NBA show, but we've
seen this happen a lot. These college coaches turn down
these pro jobs that before probably wouldn't have happened. Now,
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Colin I watched him today and he's always had this thing,
you know, don't try to fight happiness, like there's no
happier on the other side of the fence. And I'm
a huge believer in regionality, like where you're from, the
culture of it. Now you could argue in pro sports,
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we've seen guys from the East Coast come to the
West Coast and guys of the West Coast and go
to the East Coast. I do believe you're at your
best when your personality is with the region in which
you coach. And Dan Hurley's a Northeast guy, he's gonna
move to southern California. It would have been weird. Now.
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I'm also a believer that like that style won't work
or this style will work. I think great coaches, just
like anyone great in their field, can adapt and can
change and can improve on things that are not working.
Jim Harbaugh is a great example. He's probably one of
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the more unique guys who've done both because he's had
so much success in college sports, right dominated San Diego,
resurrected Stanford, and then just won a national championship Michigan.
But he was a fifteen year NFL quarterback, So it's like, yeah,
he didn't coach all those years in the NFL. Beside
his stint with the forty nine ers, he spent fifteen
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years playing. Like that has to account for something. I
love it when people like I can't believe they just
hired Luke McCown or Brian Greasy has no experience. Well, yeah,
he was playing in his twenties and thirties. Sitting in
those meetings with the quarterback coach, with the offensive coordinator,
and with the head coach. It's different. It's not the
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same daily routine, but it's got to account for something.
It's got to equal some sort of transferable knowledge. So
I think Lane Kiffin is a guy that one day
could be coaching in the NFL. Lincoln Starr has definitely dimmed.
I think Kirby Smart is always a guy to keep
an eye on. Ryan Day. I don't know a little
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soft for me. People like you're just a hater. Yeah
kind of am like it's I like hating some people
in sports. That's healthy for that creates this whole business.
You don't have to like everybody. Look at the PGA Tour.
Everyone's friends with everyone. Business is down because liv took
all the bad guys. Like you gotta have some guys
to root against. And I'm not saying Ryan Day doesn't
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know what he's doing. He just wouldn't be my first hire.
Uh but we've seen Billy oh Obviousally Chip had a
little stint. It's not like you'll never see a guy
make the jump again. I just think it's easier to
turn stuff down now, given how much you're making and
how much power you have over changing your roster. It's
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no disputing that Aaron Rodgers has entered kind of this
part of his career where anything he does, anything he
says becomes an immediate headline and for people in the
word business that they love the clicks for us talking
about it. He's just an interesting figure and he's done
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a lot of things that I have found head scratching, right,
like demanding a trade from the Green Bay Packers to
the New York Jets. Thought it was nuts. Now I'm
not Antiahuasca, never tried it, but a lot of people,
you know, it made him go, what's he doing? The
darkness retreat all four self growth, trying to improve, but
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let's face it, most of us couldn't go into a
darkness retreat for three or four days. So he has
just done things in the last couple of years. This
has already added to a guy that I would say
was pretty polarizing before that. And the story about Aaron
Rodgers leaving Mandatory Mini Camp immediately just becomes a massive story.
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And personally, I don't think it's a big deal at all.
I have no clue at this point in time in
recording this where he went. I truly don't care, and
you'd go middlecough, You're a hypocrite, you crush Lamar Jackson
for not showing up. Well, yeah, Aaron Rodgers has been
with the team, just like Patrick Mahomes, just like Justin Herbert,
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just like Josh Allen, all the star quarterbacks for the
last two months. And he took off for a couple
of days in June. Whatever, this is a business. He's
going to get fined. There are repercussions for his actions.
And he didn't care. If he hadn't been there all
of OTA's and then also did this, I'd be like, yeah,
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this is fucking nuts, what's he doing? But he has
been there the entire time, just like last season, the
entire offseason. It has not been an issue. Did he
go to another darkness retreat or to a RFK speaking engagement?
I got no clue. And like I said, I don't
care if you're gonna miss a couple of days in
the offseason. It's not that weird. Players do it all
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the time. Where it gets weird is when you give
Lamar Jackson a couple hundred million dollars and he doesn't
show up until it's mandatory like that. That's not ideal.
It doesn't mean it's gonna impact the fall. It's just
not what the team wants now, the Ravens are well run.
Big picture, they're gonna be fine. This is the Jets
and they have constant issues today on the back of
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the tabloids. I guess New York's one of the lone
big cities where newspapers still matter, and he's everywhere and
it's gone viral and everyone's making fun of him. And
he brought it upon himself because he made the statement
where football has to become the main thing, we can't
worry about all that, and then he just disappears. But ultimately,
like he has been there the entire time. It's not
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an excused absence because you can't have an excuse absence
unless something personally bad is happening to you during mandatory minicamp.
To me, the Jets way bigger issue. Like they know
Aaron Rodgers where he stands, where he's gonna be during
training camp. It's not a big deal. I think the
overreaction's kind of laughable. But he's Aaron Rodgers. It's kind
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of like Lebron James. When anything happens, it becomes a
really big deal. Hell, Kaitlyn Clark has thrown her hat
into this ring. Kaitlyn Clark, could you know, eat a
sandwich weird and be like, what is going on with that?
And that's Aaron Rodgers world that we live in. For
as long as he plays in the NFL, literally everything
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he does, people are going to have an opinion, which
is part of the reason the NFL is so big.
You need athletes that moved the needle like this individual
moves the needle, but he is the least of the Jets.
Worries said this the other day. They literally traded for
a player who wanted a new contract. That's why he
was having issues with the Eagles. He wants more money.
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So if you trade for that player and you do
nothing with the contract, you are inheriting the problem. Right
When the Miami Dolphins traded for Tyreek Hill, the Chiefs
had an issue because Tyreek wanted a ton of money
and they weren't gonna pay him, so when they traded him,
if Miami had not reworked his contract and given him
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a huge contract extension, they would have also had an
issue on their hands. But what did they do? They
gave him a massive extension. The Raiders Khalil Mack was
not showing up to training camp until he got eighty
five ninety million dollars guaranteed. Then the Bears trade a
couple ones of three whatever form. If they did not
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give him the contract extension, they would have inherited the problem.
But they gave him a contract extension. The Jets trade
for a Son Reddick who has not stepped foot in
their building. Their coaching staff, their front office do not
know the player. They do not know the guy, and
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they have not given him new contract and he's mia.
That to me is the Jets issue because it's symbolic
of do you guys know what you're doing. Aaron Rodgers
can do things that you think are weird. You don't
agree with. One thing that is not disputable is when
he's on the field. He's a good player, and we
know he's gonna be on the field if his achilles
or body is together. Is a Son Reddick ever gonna
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show up? Is he ever gonna come? Do they ever
plan on giving him a contract extension? Or did they
just trade for a player not realizing the severity of
the issue. Did Howie Roseman just completely fleece them? If
Aaron Rodgers is bad this season, There is no debate
that the Packers fleeced the Jets on Aaron Rodgers. But
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we all universally agree that if we were in Joe
Douglas's seat, if we were Woody Johnson or Woody's brother
who was running it at the time, maybe he wasn't,
maybe wood he was already back, that we all would
have made that trade, every single one of us. And
they help Aaron Rodgers took a contract discount, gave them
back like thirty million dollars. He's actually been pretty easy
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for them to deal with. The only issue was his
achilles ripped five plays into a season in twenty twenty three.
This is sound. Reddick issue is a problem. It's one
thing when you have players that you've drafted on your
own team that have contract issues. Brandon Nyuk contract issue
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right now. You know him like you know what he
stands for. He knows you like everyone's on the same page.
It's about money. But you feel very comfortable with the guy.
Why because you've spent years around them. The Jets haven't
spent any time around this player. And let's face it,
they trade it for him because they kind of need
them because they just lost one of their better pass
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rushers to the Eagles. So they replaced him with the
Eagles problem, and now it's become their problem because they
clearly refuse to give him a contract. So Aaron Rodgers
are gonna get the headlines, but I promise you he's
the least of their warriors. Scottie Scheffler is on track,
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I think, give or take, to have a fifty million
dollars on the course. That doesn't count his other sponsors,
obviously Nike, because of the level in which he's playing.
I would imagine he's having a twenty million dollar Nike season.
That this guy's gonna make seventy eighty million dollars this season.
So one thing some of these guys benefited from because
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the live guys took off that we said, how are
they ever gonna make that type money? And Scottie Scheffler
and Hovelin are proving if you play well on the
PGA Tour, you can have a twenty four month stretch
where you make a hundred million dollars and you don't
have to play all these stupid tournaments that let's face it,
none of these live guys feel very excited do play.
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They're doing it because they got paid, which is the
reason A lot of people in America work because you're
paying me to do it, And for a long period
of time, it felt like guys like to compete. Obviously,
in the NFL and the NBA they get paid a lot,
but when the ball tips in big games where the
ball is snapped or kicked off, there's an excitement level
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as a competitor. Live does not have that. The PGA
Tour still brings that to the table, and just a
independent consumer, I just like watching fun shit. I'm all
into the NHL playoffs. I am glued into the Stanley Cup.
I have a little money dabbled on Edmonton, but it's
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just a fantastic product. The level in which they compete,
the intensity, how much you know it means, the history
of it. No different than the NBA finals. I don't
watch as much NBA now is I did throughout the
majority of my life, but the playoffs still matter. I
know what's on the line. I know the history of
being a finals MVP, winning a ring, what that means
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for guy's career, what it means to not win a ring,
and that's what you watch memorial. You know what's on
the line. You know Tiger won there five times, you know,
it's Jack Nicholas's tournament, and you watch Scotty just embracing
all this and playing at the level in which he's playing.
But like I said, that arrest in Louisville, I truly
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is the best thing that ever happened to him, because
he's not that interesting of a guy, and really his
play he's not that animated. He's not doing crazy fist pumps,
he's not dropping f bombs. He's not must watch in
terms of all the extracurricular stuff, but he's must watch
in terms of now he's winning at the rate because
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we love winners in America. And when you add in
the arrest that it looked like it was gonna derail,
I don't know something, and it didn't really at all,
And I bet on him two weeks later when Davis
Riley and where were they playing in Texas had a
career week and Scotty was still right there, finished second.
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So it's been really really entertaining to watch, and I
think his legend grew. And now we can laugh at
it because of that mugshot because they put him in
an orange jumpsuit and then he continues to answer the belt,
this is not like Michael Jordan was the best player,
and his team's really good. For the most part, he's
gonna win if he plays well. Golf's not like that.
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You're playing one hundred and fifty people and if you
have one bad round of the four rounds, it's really
easy to just finish seventh. Even if you're Tiger Woods
or Ernie Palmer or Jack Nicholas or Nick Faldo, whoever.
In every fucking week, it's like, this guy's gonna win,
this guy's gonna win, this guy's gonna win. Sometimes I
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laugh when people talk about the odds, like, you know,
Tiger's odds. In two thousand and one, we did not
I consume sports. I followed sports religiously. Obviously, gambling is
legal now, so we talk about it much differently. People
were not gambling. I mean, you had to be a true, true,
degenerate Billy Walters gambling. Now, the accessibility the odds over
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the last I would say decade, but really five six years.
To me, the odds mean a lot more because the
way we're discussing it, and this guy going into majors
is three to one, I'm like, yeah, probably right, Like
would it be crazy if you put him two to one, Like,
what is the number? You couldn't put him minus one hundred,
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right or minus one ten because it's still a golf tournament.
But he is creeping closer and closer to basically being
a one to one favorite to win a golf tournament
against one hundred and fifty other people, where elite players
are sixteen to one, twenty to one, twenty five to one.
What this guy doing, What this guy is doing right
now is just remarkable. I mean it is to me.
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It's must watch TV. And I think the arrest kind
of brings in the casual fan because his name recognition.
He's not Caitlin Clark or Patrick Mahomes in terms of
name recognition. But I think if you're a casual guy
and you're like, I'm not a big golf guy, but
I'll pay attention to some majors. You know exactly who
Scottie Scheffler is, and you know exactly kind of what's
going on right now that essentially he wins every single week. Now,
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part of to grow this brand, you need a rival.
Tiger's a once in one hundred year player. Whether he
had a rival or didn't, it wasn't gonna matter. He
was a comet ship on his own. For the most part,
players need someone that is at least viewed as a foe,
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if not an equal, And right now Scotty does not
have that. Colin Moricowa whatever he did early on this
season to figure it out. He looks freaking awesome. He
was awesome at Memorial, he was awesome at the PGA Championship,
he was awesome at the Masters. He looks fantastic. I
think he is an auto top five top ten bet
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this week. He is Taylor. He could win this tournament.
But if Scotty's right there, you're like, he's not gonna
beat Scotty. Scheffer Xander Schoffley, who has had an elite
career finally got over the hump at Valhalla, is having
statistically and you could argue the best year of his career.
Another guy I think an auto top ten, top five bet.
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Either one of those guys gonna be Scotty's rival. Don't
really see it, not saying those guys can't win and
have continue to have great careers and even win another
major or two. But Tiger had Phil who I think
when you look back, you go, I don't know where
Phil ranks, you know, Tiger jack one to two in
some order, and then there's a group of five or
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six guys. I Phil is a top ten player of
all time, and you could argue he's closer to five
than he is ten. But the rivalry those two guys,
it was a rivalry more by yes, Tiger and Phil,
but Tiger dominated him. But Phil was like a worthy,
worthy foe. And I think Ernie L's I would throw
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him right up there. I actually think the guy, and
this is the sad part about the division in golf,
is Bryson d Schambeau. Because one thing Phil had was like,
Phil was pretty famous. So to have like a legit
foe at the highest level of pro sports, that guy's
gotta be pretty famous, right. Larry and Magic Michael kind
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of went through a rotation of him, but Lebron and Curry,
Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. Forever it
was Manning and Brady. I think Bryson has a chance
to be the most famous golfer. I'm not saying better
than Scotty, but his fame. Dude's a killer. This guy.
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If it was if he was an NFL player. We
talk about Bryson d Chambeau like the number one high
school recruit, the number one college player, and has come
into the NFL and dominated and gone to Pro Bowls constantly.
He obviously won a US Open, not the best US Open.
It was basically just hit it straight a million feet
and jump pump wedges onto the green. But to me,
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Bryson's more closely a four or five major win guy
than he is a one major win guy. The other thing,
I think he's kind of become comfortable with who he is.
He's nerdy, didn't have a lot of friends on the
PGA Tour. A lot of people, I think rumors were
people didn't like him very much. Whether he was a
bad guy, immature guy, whatever, that's a fact. And now
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it feels like he's relaxed a little bit. But he's
still an elite player and live, whether he played on Live,
whether he played on the Corn Ferry Tour, whether he
played on the Asian Tour. I don't think Bryson would
be faced because he loves golf to his soul. A
lot like Phil, a lot like Tiger Woods, a lot
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like Scotti Scheffer. They are addicts, like the reason Patrick
Mahomes is so good. Obviously he's physically gifted. He's a
twenty four to seven football addict. Same thing with Peyton Manning,
same thing with Tom Brady, same thing with Drew Brees,
same thing with Christian McCaffrey, Same thing with Lebron James,
same thing with Steph Curry. This is not just yeah,
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we do this for a job, we make a lot
of money. No, this is a deep driven passion of mine.
And the other thing with Bryson is he's become a showman.
And really since he got big and was sucking down
all those you know, the protein shakes and the peanut
butter sandwiches and just put on an extra thirty pounds
and he starts vomiting over the water, pointing at the sky. Say,
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I think Bryson figured something out. Whether you like him,
whether you hate him, whether you think he's a nerd
or whatever, you are dialed in when he's playing. And
I like him a lot this week, and I would love,
I mean I'd pay for it to get these two
guys in the mix on Saturday and Sunday. Now, this
tournament is, from all accounts of everyone on the ground,
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is going to be really hard. The greens look like
they're concrete. Obviously, there's not rough at this course like
there isn't traditional golf courses, but there's the native land.
You can miss it into weird spots and it can
become very difficult if you hit fairways. It's a second
shot golf course. But it's also pretty long, like it's
seventy six hundred yards and Scotti, Scheffler hits long irons
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really well. Bryson d Chambeau elite at it, calling more
Kawa pretty freaking good. Same thing with Ander Schoffley. To me,
that's the group I'm betting on. I have a ton
of the problem is for me to get my rocks off,
I'd have to put a couple grand on Scotty at
three to one, right, So I was like, you know,
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I'm gonna parlay him with a lot of people, and
I have a million parlays mixed up with Scotti and
Colin and Bryson and Xander and even a little Fleetwood
as top tens in top twenties a deck. He's another guy,
elite ball striker, fantastic short game, gonna be in the mix.
So this is going to be a big name tournament.
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Obviously it's gonna be shocking if Scotty doesn't win. But
I think this is and hopefully so, where the kind
of rivalry begins with Scotty and Bryson, because I just
don't I don't think it's doing it for the casual
with more Kawa and Xander, despite how great those players are.
Bryson kind of evokes emotion deep in your soul when
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you watch him. If you like sports, I kind of
want to watch this. Something's there, something's going on, and
sometimes athletes just have that. When I was a kid, like,
I'm not a big tennis guy, but I didn't know
I was gonna be bald at the time, even though
my entire family didn't have a blade of hair on
top of their head. I loved Agassy. Something about Agasy
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Why because you watch them he just created emotion inside you.
And we've seen it forever with football and basketball players,
same with baseball players when I was younger. But in
these individual sports you need some characters, and to me,
Bryson is the ultimate mix of character, weird out there
unlike anyone else, and an elite player. So I hope
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Bryson brings his a game. He has a ton of
momentum come into this, played well at Augusta, played awesome
at the PGA, And like I said, I don't think
he's phased by the irrelevancy of these golf tournaments. I
don't think he's phased at all. Now, I don't you know,
there's a lot of other names out there. Rory count
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me out. Though love is not dead. I just saw
they're gonna reconcile him and his wife when it comes
to their divorce, So no longer divorce. Keopka. I hammered
Keopka at some of the earlier majors, like I'm out.
I'm just not gonna do it. Not saying that he
can't do it, but I'm not going to mess around
with that. And it's sad. I mean, DJ's like seventy
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five or eighty to one. But should be fun. Should
be fun. So I from a recommendation standpoint of gambling,
I think if you want some action on Scotty, like
you can put one hundred bucks Scottie to win and
then parlay some top fives and top tens with the Xanders,
with the Moricows, with the Bryson's, with the hadeckis with
the Fleetwoods, there's a ball striker's golf course, so I
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need guys from one hundred and eighty yards, one hundred
ninety yards, two hundred yards that can pelt the middle
of the green. Because there are a lot of runoffs
on this golf course, you get put in some weird spots.
Hovelin is an interesting guy. Is a short game, good enough,
but he's definitely shown some signs of life. He would
definitely be a wild card for me if you want
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to put him in some parlays. I wouldn't be against
that at all. But like I said, overall, have a
hard time seeing Scottie not win this tournament. One thing
I've always thought was really cool in pro sports when
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a guy spends his entire career with one organization. And football,
unlike the NBA, for example, you get cut the moment
you start slipping, they get rid of you. I mean,
before Tom Brady existed, the best quarterback of all time
was traded and Bill Walsh had been trying to replace
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him for like half a decade. So football, the meritocracy
that's involved, regardless of your your stature, your status, your
previous accomplishments. It's very, very cutthroat, but we still have
a long line of examples. I mean, Peyton Manning was
once cut right now. He had a bad neck and
we didn't know at the time if he could play again.
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He's even gone on records. It was a scary time
for his career, but they got him. Now they were
getting Andrew Locke, but still Peyton Manning was available on
the open market. Tom Brady played his last three years
for another team. But it wasn't because he wanted to leave.
It was because Bill was like, yeah, I'm short in
a forty two year old. I don't think he'll be
I think he's gonna fall off a cliff. And he didn't.
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He won an MVP, he won a Super Bowl and
obviously cemented his lay, I mean, took it to another level.
But as Tom said, and I didn't quite understand. I
saw a lot of posts about it over the last
couple of weeks that there was like a Tom Brady
number retirement. I guess I had assumed it was more
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of like craft Patriot people former players, kind of an
in house thing. It was like a football game. I mean,
they did a panorama around the Stadium and that place
was packed. It was like the freaking Rolling Stones were there.
And as Tom Brady said last night, I'm Tom Brady
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and I'm a Patriot, and I think a lot like
Michael Jordan, who played two years for the Wizards. Now,
unlike Tom, he won a championship into the Bucks. Tom
means a lot. But I think it's very, very powerful
when a guy and I think it's cool for fans
because you root for that human being until the day
he dies. He means everything to you. And I know
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as a fan of the San Fransco Giants, like Buster
Posey's Hall of Fame career, every single at bat was
with the San Francisco Giant uniform. The reason Lebron James
would never sniff Kobe Bryant is because he's a mercenary.
He just jumps from team to team Kobe's entire career.
And I don't mean like on the all time list
we could argue Lebron's about player. I just mean with
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Laker fans because Kobe's their guy. Kobe was their guy
from the start till the finish. And the NBA Player
Empowerment era, which got so much credit with the media
was cool for Twitter, not great for fans, like who's
how's Kevin Durant. Ever, having that moment and the powerful
thing about the NFL is look at some of the
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young guys now and listen, Tom, it was like a
religious experience. He took the Patriots to nine Super Bowls.
He won six of them that career. Even Patrick Mahomes
more than likely a high probability, will not replicate that.
So it's an outlier career. We got twenty years with
this guy, this California kid who brought us to greatness,
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and he's our guy, no matter how weird his face
may look with botox and plastic surgery, or how his
hair has changed over the years with hair plugs and listen,
I'm not hating. I lost my hair and I just
chose probably at the time I lost that, I definitely
could have afforded hair plugs, and now it's just too late.
I'm just rocking with it. But it doesn't matter how
weird things get. He's our guy. And growing up I
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saw the power of it with forty nine er guys
in the Walsh in the in the nineties era. How
passionate people that support those guys and I think it's
really cool when someone can spend the majority, if not
their entire career. Now, obviously in pro sports, you've gotta
be good to even have an opportunity to do that.
But like Aaron Donald just retired, played for one franchise,
(42:33):
Like that's that's a powerful thing. Now. I don't know,
you know, the Rams franchise fan base. It's not exactly
like playing, you know, for the Cowboys or the Eagles.
But Jason Kelcey recently right retired. He's a Philly guy.
He's not from Philly's from Ohio. He went to Cincinnati.
Yet the rest of his life he's gonna live in Philadelphia,
(42:55):
I would imagine, and that's his home and those are
now his people. I think that's the cool part about sports.
I was taking my little dog on a walk last night,
and the NBA Finals I bet on the Mavericks obviously
to win the series not going well. That was dumb,
and I swear to God, probably I don't know half
(43:15):
the homes that I could kind of see in, especially
in the backyard as we're kind of roaming around, I
could see in their backyards. I just saw sports on
the NBA Finals on and It's still one of the
last things that we all agree that, like, we kind
of just watch when it matters, when big events happen.
Football is kind of an outlier because we watched the
regular season in the playoffs, but when the baseball playoffs come,
(43:38):
it'll just be on people's TVs. Obviously, the NBA Finals
is just on people's TVs. March madness, and we all
kind of gravitate toward that, and it's a conversation starter
obviously for me in what I do. When I'm just
out and about and I meet someone, you can always
talk about sports. And I think when you get to
Tom Brady, obviously he's been in our life for a
(43:59):
long long time, but like that moment as a sports fan,
it couldn't have gone any better. But whenever you get
a great player and you get to live through it,
his youth, his marriages, his children, his ups and downs,
his struggles, his greatness, it just bonds you to that
person for a long long time. And I'm not trying
to be sappy here, but I thought some of the
(44:22):
videos I saw were just really really cool. And the
Belichick thing, clearly the Crafts tried to destroy his name
in that Apple documentary. I've said that I stopped watching
it after like episode five. I just thought it was stupid.
It wasn't for me. I don't know if it did
well or didn't do well in terms of like retention
on an episode to episode basis, but I just thought
(44:45):
the treatment of a guy who was a big part
of and as Tom Brady said last night, it wasn't you,
it wasn't me, it was us, and it just completely
shit on him was stupid. Patriots fans knows, and they
gave him a standing I swear to God for like
five minutes, and it was cool. And those are the
type things like you don't get in the rest of society.
(45:08):
You don't get something like not everyone in that stadium
sees eyed. I has the same thoughts on society, has
the same beliefs on the tax system. But like everyone's
bonded over the Patriots, over Tom over Bill, what they
all got to experience from two thousand and one to
twenty eighteen or nineteen, Like, you can never take that
(45:28):
away from all those people. And obviously Boston, like Philly,
like New York, I mean, passionate place, but it's it's
no different than people in Alabama they got to bond
over Nick Saban for the last fifteen years, or people
now in Georgia with Kirby Smart right, or a lot
of people in my life that are forty nine er
fans that have had this run for five years of
doing a lot of winning. It's cool, it's fun, it's powerful.
(45:53):
It's what makes I think this stuff more than interesting.
It's just a connectivity of kind of our world. And
Tom obviously, you know, given that region, no one ever
did for them. I guess Bill Russell way back in
the day, but in the modern day era, and to
(46:14):
really just embrace the place. And it was just it
was cool to watch, so uh, cool moment, cool thing
by the crafts Robert showed up with a girl. Maybe
it's his wife girlfriend. I can't keep track of his
love life. Who had to be forty five years younger
than him. Shows you man, would she be with him
if he was a plumber? Pays to be rich. I
guess the volume
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