March 22, 2025 • 33 mins
This week on the podcast John discussed a bunch of of the biggest stories around the NFL starting with the Bengals locking up their two big WR's, how the Vikings told Aaron Rodgers they aren't interested, and some potential NFL rule changes. All that and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. What is going on everybody, How are we doing?
Hopefully everyone is having a good weekend, And like we
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always do every once in a while, always would be strong,
but sometimes we throw out a little weekend best of
pick some of the things we talked about this week,
mix and mash it together behind the scenes and throw
together a little podcast for everybody. So we had a
pretty big week because the Bengals actually did what they've
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been telling everyone they were gonna do and sign obviously
Jamar Chase, but T Higgins as well. Hell, they even
put out a Twitter and Instagram video kind of double
middle finger to everyone that said they would never do
that and they're cheap. It's like, guys, let's pump the
brakes a little bit. Just because you get one victory
in the offseason doesn't mean you get to pump your chest.
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But they did, so we'll dive into that and really
why they did it. Joe Burrow Rogers is just I
mean this story. Kevin O'Connell officially told him no thanks.
So we will talk about that as well as some
rule changes in the NFL when it comes to you know,
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the tush push was the headliner probably a month ago
with the Packers doing it, but now we have rules
in terms of overtime and something that's near and dear
to my heart that makes me really happy coming from
the Detroit Lions, Dan Campbell and that crew. It's crazy
how the Lions have become like one of the high
level staple franchises of the league. Just like, yeah, they
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just feel like they know what they're doing. They're just good.
There's a well run operation. If you would have told
any human being that falls football, I was gonna say
ten five years ago, that would be the case. Yeah,
they're just considered like one of the well run operations,
you know, like a Ravens, Bills, Chiefs, Rams, Niners, Packers.
Like it's just the Lions. Doesn't mean you're winning Super
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bowlst But props to the Boys for getting that thing fixed.
So let's dive into some football. The Bengals. I've had
some time to think about this and one and I
think Stingley falls under this too. You feel much better
about giving massive amounts of money to guys you've drafted.
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Why because you know him really well. You have spent
years around not the player, but the human being. Because
in football, you meet, you lift, you're just sitting in
the facility way more than you're on the field and
playing NFL football. So you spend more time around Jamar
Chase and T Higgins and Joe Burrow and all these guys,
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the human beings than you do quote unquote the players.
Now it's all intertwine, right, They're lifting, they're studying, like
it's all part of the package. But when you give
a contract, right or wrong, because I hesitate to say
that's a great deal, like Jamar Chase, no problem. Jamar
Chase could play any era, anytime, be an elite. I
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mean Jamar Chase. I'm not alone saying this might be.
I don't know how many players are better at football
than Jamar Chase in the NFL, including quarterbacks. I mean,
is he one of the top five or six seven
most talented individual players in the NFL? I think he is,
and you just you keep. The whole point of a
draft is to find a Jamar Chase and then keep
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that guy on your team as long as humanly possible,
especially if he's healthy and playing at an elite level.
I think sometimes when you get a redundant position, you
go like, let's use the Texans for example, if they
had a Derek Stingley and then another guy who wouldn't
make eighty nine guaranteed but maybe would be like fifty
five sixty guaranteed, you know they probably would do they
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would trade that player because is it awesome having two
lockdown corners? Of course it is. Is it great business
to have all your money into a position on the perimeter.
I think it's pretty risky, and I would say the
same thing about this T Higgins clearly high level cat productive.
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I mean, he was banged up last year, missed a
bunch of games, still at ten touchdowns. So if you
combine the two guys, they scored twenty seven touchdowns the
two of them, and he has an incredible rapport with
the quarterback and the quarterback. I don't think it's just
beating the drum to give him an extension because he
wants them to be rich. I think he wants to
win and he thinks his best chance to win is
with this player. And I don't blame him for thinking that,
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but I do think when you look at the totality
of what you have to compete against in the conference,
which is Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson, and
I'd even say I think the Chargers are coming. They
would never do that. They would never allocate that many
resources to two wide receivers because it's this bad business.
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And this is where I think the Bengals passed of.
And I talked about this when I did the reaction
video is like, I think Mike Brown's pretty rattled because
the talk of like could Joe Burrow in like a
year or two be like, I can't be here anymore,
I want out, And typically you'd say, listen, it's it's football.
The organization has more juice, like that's not really, this
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isn't the NBA, and you go, well, he had the
situation fifteen plus years ago with Carson Palmer and he
was like, I'm not playing for you anymore and he
just quit on him and he was just gone, and
that happened. I don't ever quite remember that happening at
that level with a player of that you know ability
at that position. I mean, it had to kind of
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scar you. And I think Joe Burrow is I would
take you know, a young Joe Burrow over Carson Palmer.
And Carson Palmer's fucking incredible. I mean Churson Palmer was awesome,
but I just think you have to make this guy happy.
And they're in this weird NBA situation Like I totally
understood forever in Lebron's prime, Like, yeah, do what he
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wanted to. He's the best player in the league. Like
if Jannis wants something, I'd listen to him. If Yokis
want something, I'd listen to him. If Steph Curry wants something,
I'd listen to him. But then there are players like
I'm not listening to that guy, Like I don't care
if I'm Miami what Tua thinks. I'm not looking to
get his opinion right, Like the Cardinals aren't getting on
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the horn with Kyler Murray to ask about his free
agency thoughts, but like Andy Reid probably runs stuff by
Patrick Mahomes. Same thing with the Bills with Josh Allen.
Joe Burrow's earned that, so is it ideal business? Like
is this something that every GM in the league would
have done? Probably not, But given their situation with Joe Burrow,
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Like I kind of understand now the pressure on them,
Like the reason did they miss the playoffs wasn't because
they needed just more firepower on offense. Offense wasn't the issue.
Their defense was putrid. And for as important as it
is to have a great coordinator, and it is, I mean,
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look at the best teams the last couple of years,
the Ravens with Mike McDonald, the Chiefs with Spagnola, the
Niners in their heyday with with Sala and Demico. You
need having elite defensive coordinators. Is the Eagles this year
with Fangio is really really important that Week seventeen game
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or Week eighteen again my week's the seventeenth game of
the season, a Week eighteen, what Aaron Glenn did against
Sam Darnold. Having a high end defensive coordinator, there aren't
many of them, but you can't be a great defensive
coordinator without really really good players and al Golden like,
it wasn't that long ago that lou Am and Runo
was viewed as a really good coordinator. Their roster was
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a lot better. And you look right now the situation
with Trey Hendrickson, who's to about like a free agent
though he's under contract. He just wants a lot more money,
but he had an incredible year in the defense sucked.
It's about depth, it's about having a good defense, look
at the Eagles, is about having high end players multiple
at every level. Like you can't just have one great
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defensive lineman average dB play and like a decent linebacker
like you're fucked. You need multiple all pros, and not
all at the same position. So the pressure now on
the Bengals with them allocating to Burrow and the two
wide receivers, I mean, especially if they extend Trey Hendrickson,
which seems like it's very possible that they have little
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room for error in the draft. The other thing is
offensive linemen are expensive, so they're not gonna have the
cash to buy these guys on the open market. They're
gonna have to hit on them too, So you're gonna
have to hit on defensive lineman. You're gonna have to
hit on defensive backs. You're gonna have to hit on
offensive linemen in the draft. If you tell me, like
what are their needs in the draft, you go O
line in defense and don't miss, because if you do,
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and you only hit on a player or two in
a given draft, like, it's gonna be very hard for
you to make up ground on these elite programs who,
like you, have Hall of Fame guys at quarterback. So,
like your point of difference, which is awesome having Joe Burrow,
is somewhat neutralized because the teams you have to beat
have Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, and Josh Allen. I would
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like their chances a lot. If you told me the
Bengals were in the NFC, I'd be like, Yeah, their
chance is decent because they're gonna have the best quarterback
every time they play all the NFC teams. That's just
not the case in the AFC. That doesn't mean he
can't outplay those guys, but like, if those guys are
on at the same time, they just cancel each other out.
So I just I get it. I totally understand it.
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Speaker 1 (11:33):
Let's dive into the Minnesota Vikings. Kevin O'Connell and Quessei
THEGM have decided at this point in time. While they discussed,
I think probably in depth and for days on end,
potentially for the last month or two, should they be
aggressive and sign Aaron Rodgers. That is their job, that
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is the job of every general manager is to do
due diligence on every play are available. And it's why
Ryan Poles last year, I'm sorry takes a little heat
of like, yeah, it was the easy thing to not
bring any of the quarterbacks in beside Caleb Williams. Yeah,
the media is gonna give you a lot of credit.
They don't sign your checks. Your job is to thoroughly
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evaluate and bring in Jane Daniels and Drake May if
he could have that one over. Doesn't mean he would
change the pick. But let's face it, they did not
do their due diligence like they did with Caleb. And
just like even though you drafted a quarterback really really
high in JJ McCarthy, like he played two preseason games
and then hurt his knee and then needed another surgery
and lost what looked like thirty or forty pounds and
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looked like what I aspired to be really skinny, And
it's like, is this guy good enough to carry our offense?
You have to ask these ask these questions, and you're
not gonna have the answers until the season starts. But
I think one thing the Minnesota Vikings had on their side,
they're not desperate. And I think one consistent theme in
life is when you make decisions out of desperation, it
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can blow up in your face. And sometimes in life
you don't have a choice, right, anyone who's listening to
this that's lost a job or been dumped or had
something traumatic happen to you, that's, I would say, somewhat
out of your control. It can force you into change
and some desperation and to charge a different path immediately
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that you hadn't planned on doing. And you've heard a
lot of people, especially you know, successful people in business
that say the most powerful word is always no. It
doesn't mean that you're not interested or that you won't
end up doing that, but when you say no, you
gain some leverage and typically, like Teams that make bad
decisions or desperate decisions are bad. The reason the Jets
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traded a haul and then paid Aaron Rodgers or took
a salary. Actually he ended up taking a pay cut,
but basically gave him the keys of the franchise. It's
not because they had been winning eleven or twelve games.
It's because they had been dog shit like the forty
nine ers, just let their entire roster go. Do you
think that happens if they win twelve games and are
in the NFC Championship game? Probably not, But they went
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six and eleven. So when you look look at the
Eagles two years ago, they start whatever what is it,
ten to one and then basically lose six of their
last seven games, get their ass kicked in the playoffs,
and they fired basically everyone that they could see beside
Nick Siriani on the coaching staff. Do you think they
do that if they were in the Super Bowl? Of
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course not so winning and losing gives you juice. The
Vikings were sixty minutes away from being the number one
overall seed, and obviously they played a bad playoff game
and got worked by the LA Rams. But like they're
in a position where they look at their roster and
go minus the quarterback. We feel we have one of
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the better rosters in the NFL. I've invested in this
young quarterback because we believe in them. Now I've been
saying over and over, you have no clue. There is
a great unknown when it comes to JJ McCarthy. Is
he going to be a good NFL player? No one knows,
including Minnesota, And it's why it is their responsibility to
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have these discussions, to go in depth. Is it worth it?
How much would he cost? What would he impact on
the locker room? Is it worth JJ's development good or
bad to have him around? Is it better to not
have him around? Are we a better football team with
him as a starting quarterback? That's what they're paid to do.
It's like the media, people like me, people the fans.
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We can have all the opinions we want and listen.
It's fun. It's why football is huge. We got a
lot of thoughts, we got a lot of takes, and
we like talking about it. But it is their job.
It's not about takes, it's not about opinions. It's to
get it right or wrong. And when you make a move,
like if they go with JJ McCarthy and it works
and they win twelve thirteen games, and he's a solid player,
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Like it's all worth it if he's not good and
he can't carry the offense like Sam did I know,
everyone's like Sam Donald's overrated. Look at the last two
he threw thirty five touchdowns. JJ McCarthy in fifteen games
when Michigan won the national championship. Was never asked to
play like that. His career high was twenty two touchdowns.
Like he played in a run first defensive team in college.
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That's how Jim Harbaugh coaches. That is not how Kevin
O'Connell coaches. Kevin O'Connell wants to call pass plays. Don't
blame him. That's what a lot of Andy Reid likes
calling pass plays. But when you call out a pass place,
you're pretty dependent on the quarterback. And Sam Donald last
year and Kirk Cousins the previous couple of years, like
those are guys that clearly you could lean on. We
don't know that with JJ McCarthy. We used to know that.
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With Aaron Rodgers, he used to be a guy like
he's one of the best players of all time. That
guy's gone. So you're getting a forty one year old.
He's got like completely washed. I mean, this isn't Drew
Brees Roethlisberg at the end of the career. But he's
a shell of what he once was. Like we have
to acknowledge that if he was once basically like a
ten out of ten player, whatever that version is, is
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long gone. He's still a functional player. He's still a
guy that could throw touchdowns, who can if you have
a good team, you can probably be competitive with. But
there is no guarantee that he can just carry you
to the promised land. And I don't blame any older player,
especially when you become really rich and you've checked off
every box, like I don't want to get hit. I
wouldn't want to get hit either. Tom Brady that last
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year was like I'm not getting sacked. Aaron Rodgers last year,
like I'm not getting sacked. It's one thing to get
like kind of randomly thrown to the ground. It's another
thing when I see the guy coming at me, like
I'm not standing in this pocket for that extra second
where I can complete this ball. I'm hitting the ground
now I'm throwing it away. And he used to not
do that, and he did that last year, which again
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I will defend. But when you go into business with him,
that's what you have to do is understand that that's
the player. It's why when the talk about like, well
we just if Matt Stafford doesn't take a pay cut,
we'll just we'll trade them to the Giants and we'll
go sign Aaron Rodgers, and you would have fell off
a cliff in terms of your offensive production, because the
one thing Stafford will still do, even though he's made
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a ton of money and won a championship, he will
sit in that pocket and get molly wopped as he
waits for the last possible second to deliver a strike
to Pooka Nakua for a first down. For some reason,
I still don't I saw headline Cooper Cup. He's like,
I never got an answer from the Rams. It's like, Cooper,
they don't think you're worth twenty million dollars. You're in
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the business of football and what your salary is if
it doesn't equal how good you are as a player anymore.
Whether it's the Rams, whether it's the Patriots, whether it's
the Chiefs, every team in the league would have cut you.
It's not because they don't like you as a guy.
It's not because they don't think you work hard. It's
not because they don't think you're a good influence to
the team. It's because your salary was much larger than
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how you are currently as a player. It's called the business.
That is the NFL. You would have been cut by
all thirty two teams. They're not going to give you
a letter of explanation of like your routes aren't as
good anymore. It's your injuries and your dependability. You're not
dependable anymore. It has nothing to do with like you
as a guy, and I understand, like I've been fired.
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It's a humbling experience. But like they didn't think you
were twenty million dollars, It's not that fucking complicated. If
I see one more headline like Cooper Cup just does
not understand what is there not to understand. This isn't
a complicated formula. He's not as good as the high price.
They think Davante Adams is worth way more money than you, right,
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which is your old salary twenty million dollars. They'll gladly
play that Toavante. They do not want to pay you
and I think whenever. I it's hard to know with Rogers,
you know how much he actually wanted. If I was Rogers,
I would have gone to Minnesota for like like five
million bucks. I'm in because if he ends up with
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the Steelers and the Giants. And I mentioned this yesterday, like,
I don't really care, neither one of those things do
anything to me. I don't think the Steelers are dramatically
any different than they have been the last several years.
And I think the Giants will be bad, and I
think the Giants are in a really, really tough spot.
And I don't really know what else they were supposed
to do. But and I said this yesterday, I understand
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why John Mara did not want to be looked at
like some looney owner constantly firing people. But it's like John,
everyone you fired deserve to be fired. Like Ben McAdoo,
you had to pull the trigger. Joe Judge ran a
quarterback sneak on third and nine, he had to go.
Pat Shermer had no business being a head coach like
this crew. It's not really working out. And like, I
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get it, you like these guys. A lot of people
get fired in the NFL. That people liked Pete Carroll
got fired, Andy Reid got fired like it's part of
the job. But these guys have no shot to win.
And if you add Aaron Rodgers, like their roster is
way worse than the Jets, and unlike the Jets, they
play in a division that's much better. I mean, the
Eagles are a powerhouse. Clearly Washington is going to be improved,
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and they were in the NFC Championship last year. And
let's face it, like the Cowboys had a million injuries,
maybe they're no longer that twelve win team, but they're
way better than the Giants. So I think this Giant
situation is like and even if they end up drafting
Shador with a third overall pick, like I saw Shador
two years ago on a bad Colorado team, they were
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not good. And it's just like if you put players
on bad teams, especially at quarterback like they lets, they're
fucking Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers in his prime, they're
not overcoming that you will lose. We just saw Aaron
Rodgers on a talented team last year lose week after
week after week after week. And I think the Steeler thing,
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and I think what Cam said is reflective kind of
what we all believe. It's like, I just like, I
just can't. It feels like a Bravo show now and
which listen, when you are an elite, when you're a
great player, you can deal with it. Like at one
point in times like yeah, Antonio Brown's nuts, but he'll
give you one hundred and twenty catches and fifteen touchdowns
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a year. Like hey, you just kind of deal with
the nuts. And then it got to the point where like, hey,
he's not giving you that anymore. I'm out. Terrell Owens
became that, and every once in a while quarterback becomes that.
It's like your drama outweighs. I don't know how people
deal with Like I'm pretty lucky my immediate family, there's
not much drama involved. I keep a relatively smaller friend
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circle because I just I can't really deal with crazy drama.
I mean, there are levels where you have to be.
You know, you have a family member, a close friend
who just there's drama in their life. They need help.
Like that's not what I'm talking about. I'm just saying
constantly something. It's like if I'm the Steelers, It's like, listen,
we sucked it up, and we dealt with this weirdo
Russell Wilson. Now we're dealing with mister Iowa, who it
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just isn't as good anymore. Now you could also save
you the Steelers, like what are your options? And I
know it's been reported that they were pretty interested in
bringing Justin Fields back on somewhat of a similar number
to what the Jets gave him, which I honestly think
would have been insane. It's like, wait, you're willing to
give him even a number near that couple of years
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forty million dollars in guarantee thirty and you wouldn't and
you benched him for Russell Wilson. How's that possible? And
you refused as Russell Wilson started not playing well and
it got cold and he looked like a shell of himself.
You refuse to start Fields like that would have showed
you that you essentially threw the last season. So I
think both these franchises. I was pretty aggressive on how
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I was out on the Steelers last year, and I
looked dumb when they started ten and three, and then
everything changed. They started playing good teams and I look
smart again. And listen, I've come to grips with I'm
no longer saying that Mike Tomlin and the Steeler should
get divorce. I don't believe it's gonna happen. I believe
he will be there forever, no matter how many eight
to nine to ten wins seasons he has and how
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many times he gets his ass kicked in the first round. Like,
I'm done, that's it's a take, that's a waste of
my energy. I'm also done ever thinking the Steelers are
gonna suck. They're clearly not. But like their version of
suck is what we are witnessing right now. The team
that just has the same thing every single year. And
clearly the Chiefs are this dynasty team, five super Bowl,
six years, three championships. But that next tier of team
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that cannot beat the Chiefs kicks your ass, the Bills
and the Ravens. So it's like the Chiefs are in
their own category, and then that next tier of the
Bills Ravens have nothing in common with you. They own you. Yeah,
occasionally you could beat the Ravens and Lamar in a
regular season game. No one cares, right, I mean, guys
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like Daron Fox score fifty in random regular season games.
It does not matter in the landscape of the league
and the important games. So it's like, I just think
the Steelers are now in the same spot over and over,
over and over. They can add Rogers, they can bring
back Russell, they can draft Jackson Dart, they could do whatever.
I don't think anything's gonna change. And it sucks if
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you're a Steeler fan because it's like, we're never gonna
bought him out, so we never will have a chance
that the Jayden Daniels or the you know, I don't
think Trevor Lawrence any good, but like that type player
will always just, you know, somehow be nine to ten wins,
be one and done in the playoffs, not host a
playoff game, have a stretch in the regular season. We're like,
are we pretty good? And it's like, no, you're actually not.
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So it's just the same, all same old, And now
now you're waiting on a forty one year old who's
twing with your emotions. That's what it's come to. You're
waiting on a forty one year old that we've all
acknowledged isn't that good anymore? Like he's not worthy of
like we should be but we're desperate. What else are
we supposed to do? And the answer is, you're screwed. Okay,
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we'll get out of here on this. Some potential rule changes. Obviously,
one of the headliners over the last couple of months
has been the Packers want to ban the tush push.
My overall take is I don't care if they ban it.
I don't. It will not bother me. If they let
them continue to do that will not bother me either,
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because anyone can do the toush push. The only team
that has the guy who is a little shorter that
can squat six hundred plus pounds is them. Because I
saw Josh Allen, who I thought is one of the stronger,
bigger quarterbacks I've ever seen, try to run quarterback sneaks
and he couldn't gain a half yard. So I just
don't care. Ban it? Cool, you don't ban it, okay,
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don't doesn't bother me. But I do think there are
some pretty important potential rule changes. I have been saying
forever as a fan of football, someone the gambles on football,
as someone who just watches a ton of football, the
amount of games in tight. Most NFL games are close.
I think eighty percent of games are within one score
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in the fourth quarter, So giving teams automatic first downs
on defensive holding is the most I think one of
the craziest things in the NFL rule book. How often
do you watch a third and ten in the second
half tie game down three up three and a team
it's third and nine and some questionable defensive holding or
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illegal contact, automatic first down. It's fucking bullshit. I would
even go a step farther pass interference. We should go
college fifteen yard penalty, but that's a different discussion. No problem.
If it's third and three, defensive holding first down, but
automatic first down. We have seen so often second and long,
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third and long. It'd be like third and fifteen and
there'd be a defensive holding automatic first down, especially when
the quarterback doesn't even throw that guy's way and it
doesn't even come close to being completed. So the Detroit Lions,
Dan Campbell, Brad Holmes and the Ford family F one
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but it's truth. They want that gune, They want that
changed and just make it a spot foul. So if
it's third and nine and it happens at three yards. Okay,
it's now third and six. I'm all for it. I
am one hundred percent down because the automatic first down
on that play has has an outweighed impact on the
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outcomes of way too many games. This is not college
football where half the games during the fall are fifteen
to twenty thirty points spreads. That's not the case. All
these games are close, or the majority of them are,
and so many times coming down the home stretch, and
it probably impacts more games earlier in the game two.
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But it's like a tigh game, six minutes left and
it would have been a punt, and then all of
a sudden you get a first down. It leads to
a field goal, and that's the difference in a game.
So props to the Lions on that one. They also,
I guess a lot of teams are behind the reseting
of the playoff teams. Essentially no longer the first four
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seeds one through four are the four division winners, because
we have constantly seen you know, nine ten win teams
usually be the fourth, sometimes even the third seed. And
yet we've had wildcard teams win twelve, thirteen, fourteen games
and have to go on the road in the playoffs,
so they are discussing making Basically, the top seven seeds
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in the playoffs are just buy record. And now if
you win the division, you do get a playoff spot,
So four of the seven spots are still going to
go to the division winner, which I'm all for, but
you don't automatic I actually get a home game. Look
at the Vikings now, because of the fires, they ended
up playing in Arizona, but the Vikings had to go
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on the road. The Vikings were sixty minutes away from
being the number one overall set. Instead they lose, and
all of a sudden they're playing a Monday night game
in Glendale, Arizona, which still kind of worked out to
be a home game for them because of how many
people from the Minnesota general area. You know, I would
say live, you know in Arizona, but that's beside the point.
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They have one of the best home field advantages in
the NFL. So I'm totally for this. I know a
lot of people have hit me up over the years
asking if they should do A team can pick whoever
they want to play. I think that's fun to talk
about and it's a cool discussion. It will never happen
and all thirty two teams, the good and the bad
teams would not want that, so totally for that. The
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other thing is, I think the Steelers put through this
rule out which I don't hate. Right now, during the
tampering period, you are, based on the letter of the law,
not allowed to talk to the player. So if I'm
the New England Patriots and I want Milton Williams, I
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can talk to his agent. But if I'm Vrabel or
my defensive coordinator, I can't get on the horn with Milton.
I have to wait till the official start of the
league year to talk to him. They want to make
the tampering period allow you to talk to a player,
So if I'm recruiting Player X as a free agent,
I basically can't talk to him where I can avoid that.
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Remember Saquan said something about how he talked to him
last year and then he had to push back and
it turns out, you know, it's like, I think the
fix is pretty simple. You are allowed. You're not allowed
to announce anything. But to me, the tampering period should
start at the NFL combine and then the league year.
Whenever that tampering period quote unquote starts should be that
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Monday in the league year, and then for maybe even
three days, so it could be a Sunday you're allowed
to negotiate with the player and the agent. Because it
is very you have to be extremely naive to think
that these discussions aren't happening very very frequently at the Combine.
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So we all know the Combine is the unofficial start
to legal tampering. Yet you can't start quote unquote legal
tampering till like a week later on Monday. It's just
it's very disingenuous, and it's just not the way the
real world works. So to me, I would mess with
the Combine and have that as some sort of legal
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tampering and try to ideally give it a week where
you start announcing the deals. But even right now, once
the legal tampering period begins, all these deals start breaking.
You think we just come to an agreement sixty million
dollars Monday at noon. Of course not. We've been talking
for a week. So I think there's something to be
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manipulated with the legal tampering, with the discussions, and just
make it all legal so we don't even have to
pretend anymore. But I'm all for the Lions and the
defensive holding in illegal contact not resulting in an automatic
first down and not against either. The reseting just based
on records, even though the four division winners get an
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auto spot. The volume
The volume. What is going on everybody, How are we doing?
Hopefully everyone is having a good weekend, And like we
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always do every once in a while, always would be strong,
but sometimes we throw out a little weekend best of
pick some of the things we talked about this week,
mix and mash it together behind the scenes and throw
together a little podcast for everybody. So we had a
pretty big week because the Bengals actually did what they've
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been telling everyone they were gonna do and sign obviously
Jamar Chase, but T Higgins as well. Hell, they even
put out a Twitter and Instagram video kind of double
middle finger to everyone that said they would never do
that and they're cheap. It's like, guys, let's pump the
brakes a little bit. Just because you get one victory
in the offseason doesn't mean you get to pump your chest.
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But they did, so we'll dive into that and really
why they did it. Joe Burrow Rogers is just I
mean this story. Kevin O'Connell officially told him no thanks.
So we will talk about that as well as some
rule changes in the NFL when it comes to you know,
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the tush push was the headliner probably a month ago
with the Packers doing it, but now we have rules
in terms of overtime and something that's near and dear
to my heart that makes me really happy coming from
the Detroit Lions, Dan Campbell and that crew. It's crazy
how the Lions have become like one of the high
level staple franchises of the league. Just like, yeah, they
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just feel like they know what they're doing. They're just good.
There's a well run operation. If you would have told
any human being that falls football, I was gonna say
ten five years ago, that would be the case. Yeah,
they're just considered like one of the well run operations,
you know, like a Ravens, Bills, Chiefs, Rams, Niners, Packers.
Like it's just the Lions. Doesn't mean you're winning Super
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bowlst But props to the Boys for getting that thing fixed.
So let's dive into some football. The Bengals. I've had
some time to think about this and one and I
think Stingley falls under this too. You feel much better
about giving massive amounts of money to guys you've drafted.
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Why because you know him really well. You have spent
years around not the player, but the human being. Because
in football, you meet, you lift, you're just sitting in
the facility way more than you're on the field and
playing NFL football. So you spend more time around Jamar
Chase and T Higgins and Joe Burrow and all these guys,
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the human beings than you do quote unquote the players.
Now it's all intertwine, right, They're lifting, they're studying, like
it's all part of the package. But when you give
a contract, right or wrong, because I hesitate to say
that's a great deal, like Jamar Chase, no problem. Jamar
Chase could play any era, anytime, be an elite. I
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mean Jamar Chase. I'm not alone saying this might be.
I don't know how many players are better at football
than Jamar Chase in the NFL, including quarterbacks. I mean,
is he one of the top five or six seven
most talented individual players in the NFL? I think he is,
and you just you keep. The whole point of a
draft is to find a Jamar Chase and then keep
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that guy on your team as long as humanly possible,
especially if he's healthy and playing at an elite level.
I think sometimes when you get a redundant position, you
go like, let's use the Texans for example, if they
had a Derek Stingley and then another guy who wouldn't
make eighty nine guaranteed but maybe would be like fifty
five sixty guaranteed, you know they probably would do they
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would trade that player because is it awesome having two
lockdown corners? Of course it is. Is it great business
to have all your money into a position on the perimeter.
I think it's pretty risky, and I would say the
same thing about this T Higgins clearly high level cat productive.
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I mean, he was banged up last year, missed a
bunch of games, still at ten touchdowns. So if you
combine the two guys, they scored twenty seven touchdowns the
two of them, and he has an incredible rapport with
the quarterback and the quarterback. I don't think it's just
beating the drum to give him an extension because he
wants them to be rich. I think he wants to
win and he thinks his best chance to win is
with this player. And I don't blame him for thinking that,
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but I do think when you look at the totality
of what you have to compete against in the conference,
which is Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson, and
I'd even say I think the Chargers are coming. They
would never do that. They would never allocate that many
resources to two wide receivers because it's this bad business.
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And this is where I think the Bengals passed of.
And I talked about this when I did the reaction
video is like, I think Mike Brown's pretty rattled because
the talk of like could Joe Burrow in like a
year or two be like, I can't be here anymore,
I want out, And typically you'd say, listen, it's it's football.
The organization has more juice, like that's not really, this
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isn't the NBA, and you go, well, he had the
situation fifteen plus years ago with Carson Palmer and he
was like, I'm not playing for you anymore and he
just quit on him and he was just gone, and
that happened. I don't ever quite remember that happening at
that level with a player of that you know ability
at that position. I mean, it had to kind of
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scar you. And I think Joe Burrow is I would
take you know, a young Joe Burrow over Carson Palmer.
And Carson Palmer's fucking incredible. I mean Churson Palmer was awesome,
but I just think you have to make this guy happy.
And they're in this weird NBA situation Like I totally
understood forever in Lebron's prime, Like, yeah, do what he
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wanted to. He's the best player in the league. Like
if Jannis wants something, I'd listen to him. If Yokis
want something, I'd listen to him. If Steph Curry wants something,
I'd listen to him. But then there are players like
I'm not listening to that guy, Like I don't care
if I'm Miami what Tua thinks. I'm not looking to
get his opinion right, Like the Cardinals aren't getting on
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the horn with Kyler Murray to ask about his free
agency thoughts, but like Andy Reid probably runs stuff by
Patrick Mahomes. Same thing with the Bills with Josh Allen.
Joe Burrow's earned that, so is it ideal business? Like
is this something that every GM in the league would
have done? Probably not, But given their situation with Joe Burrow,
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Like I kind of understand now the pressure on them,
Like the reason did they miss the playoffs wasn't because
they needed just more firepower on offense. Offense wasn't the issue.
Their defense was putrid. And for as important as it
is to have a great coordinator, and it is, I mean,
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look at the best teams the last couple of years,
the Ravens with Mike McDonald, the Chiefs with Spagnola, the
Niners in their heyday with with Sala and Demico. You
need having elite defensive coordinators. Is the Eagles this year
with Fangio is really really important that Week seventeen game
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or Week eighteen again my week's the seventeenth game of
the season, a Week eighteen, what Aaron Glenn did against
Sam Darnold. Having a high end defensive coordinator, there aren't
many of them, but you can't be a great defensive
coordinator without really really good players and al Golden like,
it wasn't that long ago that lou Am and Runo
was viewed as a really good coordinator. Their roster was
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a lot better. And you look right now the situation
with Trey Hendrickson, who's to about like a free agent
though he's under contract. He just wants a lot more money,
but he had an incredible year in the defense sucked.
It's about depth, it's about having a good defense, look
at the Eagles, is about having high end players multiple
at every level. Like you can't just have one great
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defensive lineman average dB play and like a decent linebacker
like you're fucked. You need multiple all pros, and not
all at the same position. So the pressure now on
the Bengals with them allocating to Burrow and the two
wide receivers, I mean, especially if they extend Trey Hendrickson,
which seems like it's very possible that they have little
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room for error in the draft. The other thing is
offensive linemen are expensive, so they're not gonna have the
cash to buy these guys on the open market. They're
gonna have to hit on them too, So you're gonna
have to hit on defensive lineman. You're gonna have to
hit on defensive backs. You're gonna have to hit on
offensive linemen in the draft. If you tell me, like
what are their needs in the draft, you go O
line in defense and don't miss, because if you do,
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and you only hit on a player or two in
a given draft, like, it's gonna be very hard for
you to make up ground on these elite programs who,
like you, have Hall of Fame guys at quarterback. So,
like your point of difference, which is awesome having Joe Burrow,
is somewhat neutralized because the teams you have to beat
have Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, and Josh Allen. I would
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like their chances a lot. If you told me the
Bengals were in the NFC, I'd be like, Yeah, their
chance is decent because they're gonna have the best quarterback
every time they play all the NFC teams. That's just
not the case in the AFC. That doesn't mean he
can't outplay those guys, but like, if those guys are
on at the same time, they just cancel each other out.
So I just I get it. I totally understand it.
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Let's dive into the Minnesota Vikings. Kevin O'Connell and Quessei
THEGM have decided at this point in time. While they discussed,
I think probably in depth and for days on end,
potentially for the last month or two, should they be
aggressive and sign Aaron Rodgers. That is their job, that
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is the job of every general manager is to do
due diligence on every play are available. And it's why
Ryan Poles last year, I'm sorry takes a little heat
of like, yeah, it was the easy thing to not
bring any of the quarterbacks in beside Caleb Williams. Yeah,
the media is gonna give you a lot of credit.
They don't sign your checks. Your job is to thoroughly
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evaluate and bring in Jane Daniels and Drake May if
he could have that one over. Doesn't mean he would
change the pick. But let's face it, they did not
do their due diligence like they did with Caleb. And
just like even though you drafted a quarterback really really
high in JJ McCarthy, like he played two preseason games
and then hurt his knee and then needed another surgery
and lost what looked like thirty or forty pounds and
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looked like what I aspired to be really skinny, And
it's like, is this guy good enough to carry our offense?
You have to ask these ask these questions, and you're
not gonna have the answers until the season starts. But
I think one thing the Minnesota Vikings had on their side,
they're not desperate. And I think one consistent theme in
life is when you make decisions out of desperation, it
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can blow up in your face. And sometimes in life
you don't have a choice, right, anyone who's listening to
this that's lost a job or been dumped or had
something traumatic happen to you, that's, I would say, somewhat
out of your control. It can force you into change
and some desperation and to charge a different path immediately
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that you hadn't planned on doing. And you've heard a
lot of people, especially you know, successful people in business
that say the most powerful word is always no. It
doesn't mean that you're not interested or that you won't
end up doing that, but when you say no, you
gain some leverage and typically, like Teams that make bad
decisions or desperate decisions are bad. The reason the Jets
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traded a haul and then paid Aaron Rodgers or took
a salary. Actually he ended up taking a pay cut,
but basically gave him the keys of the franchise. It's
not because they had been winning eleven or twelve games.
It's because they had been dog shit like the forty
nine ers, just let their entire roster go. Do you
think that happens if they win twelve games and are
in the NFC Championship game? Probably not, But they went
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six and eleven. So when you look look at the
Eagles two years ago, they start whatever what is it,
ten to one and then basically lose six of their
last seven games, get their ass kicked in the playoffs,
and they fired basically everyone that they could see beside
Nick Siriani on the coaching staff. Do you think they
do that if they were in the Super Bowl? Of
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course not so winning and losing gives you juice. The
Vikings were sixty minutes away from being the number one
overall seed, and obviously they played a bad playoff game
and got worked by the LA Rams. But like they're
in a position where they look at their roster and
go minus the quarterback. We feel we have one of
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the better rosters in the NFL. I've invested in this
young quarterback because we believe in them. Now I've been
saying over and over, you have no clue. There is
a great unknown when it comes to JJ McCarthy. Is
he going to be a good NFL player? No one knows,
including Minnesota, And it's why it is their responsibility to
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have these discussions, to go in depth. Is it worth it?
How much would he cost? What would he impact on
the locker room? Is it worth JJ's development good or
bad to have him around? Is it better to not
have him around? Are we a better football team with
him as a starting quarterback? That's what they're paid to do.
It's like the media, people like me, people the fans.
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We can have all the opinions we want and listen.
It's fun. It's why football is huge. We got a
lot of thoughts, we got a lot of takes, and
we like talking about it. But it is their job.
It's not about takes, it's not about opinions. It's to
get it right or wrong. And when you make a move,
like if they go with JJ McCarthy and it works
and they win twelve thirteen games, and he's a solid player,
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Like it's all worth it if he's not good and
he can't carry the offense like Sam did I know,
everyone's like Sam Donald's overrated. Look at the last two
he threw thirty five touchdowns. JJ McCarthy in fifteen games
when Michigan won the national championship. Was never asked to
play like that. His career high was twenty two touchdowns.
Like he played in a run first defensive team in college.
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That's how Jim Harbaugh coaches. That is not how Kevin
O'Connell coaches. Kevin O'Connell wants to call pass plays. Don't
blame him. That's what a lot of Andy Reid likes
calling pass plays. But when you call out a pass place,
you're pretty dependent on the quarterback. And Sam Donald last
year and Kirk Cousins the previous couple of years, like
those are guys that clearly you could lean on. We
don't know that with JJ McCarthy. We used to know that.
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With Aaron Rodgers, he used to be a guy like
he's one of the best players of all time. That
guy's gone. So you're getting a forty one year old.
He's got like completely washed. I mean, this isn't Drew
Brees Roethlisberg at the end of the career. But he's
a shell of what he once was. Like we have
to acknowledge that if he was once basically like a
ten out of ten player, whatever that version is, is
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long gone. He's still a functional player. He's still a
guy that could throw touchdowns, who can if you have
a good team, you can probably be competitive with. But
there is no guarantee that he can just carry you
to the promised land. And I don't blame any older player,
especially when you become really rich and you've checked off
every box, like I don't want to get hit. I
wouldn't want to get hit either. Tom Brady that last
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year was like I'm not getting sacked. Aaron Rodgers last year,
like I'm not getting sacked. It's one thing to get
like kind of randomly thrown to the ground. It's another
thing when I see the guy coming at me, like
I'm not standing in this pocket for that extra second
where I can complete this ball. I'm hitting the ground
now I'm throwing it away. And he used to not
do that, and he did that last year, which again
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I will defend. But when you go into business with him,
that's what you have to do is understand that that's
the player. It's why when the talk about like, well
we just if Matt Stafford doesn't take a pay cut,
we'll just we'll trade them to the Giants and we'll
go sign Aaron Rodgers, and you would have fell off
a cliff in terms of your offensive production, because the
one thing Stafford will still do, even though he's made
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a ton of money and won a championship, he will
sit in that pocket and get molly wopped as he
waits for the last possible second to deliver a strike
to Pooka Nakua for a first down. For some reason,
I still don't I saw headline Cooper Cup. He's like,
I never got an answer from the Rams. It's like, Cooper,
they don't think you're worth twenty million dollars. You're in
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the business of football and what your salary is if
it doesn't equal how good you are as a player anymore.
Whether it's the Rams, whether it's the Patriots, whether it's
the Chiefs, every team in the league would have cut you.
It's not because they don't like you as a guy.
It's not because they don't think you work hard. It's
not because they don't think you're a good influence to
the team. It's because your salary was much larger than
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how you are currently as a player. It's called the business.
That is the NFL. You would have been cut by
all thirty two teams. They're not going to give you
a letter of explanation of like your routes aren't as
good anymore. It's your injuries and your dependability. You're not
dependable anymore. It has nothing to do with like you
as a guy, and I understand, like I've been fired.
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It's a humbling experience. But like they didn't think you
were twenty million dollars, It's not that fucking complicated. If
I see one more headline like Cooper Cup just does
not understand what is there not to understand. This isn't
a complicated formula. He's not as good as the high price.
They think Davante Adams is worth way more money than you, right,
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which is your old salary twenty million dollars. They'll gladly
play that Toavante. They do not want to pay you
and I think whenever. I it's hard to know with Rogers,
you know how much he actually wanted. If I was Rogers,
I would have gone to Minnesota for like like five
million bucks. I'm in because if he ends up with
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the Steelers and the Giants. And I mentioned this yesterday, like,
I don't really care, neither one of those things do
anything to me. I don't think the Steelers are dramatically
any different than they have been the last several years.
And I think the Giants will be bad, and I
think the Giants are in a really, really tough spot.
And I don't really know what else they were supposed
to do. But and I said this yesterday, I understand
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why John Mara did not want to be looked at
like some looney owner constantly firing people. But it's like John,
everyone you fired deserve to be fired. Like Ben McAdoo,
you had to pull the trigger. Joe Judge ran a
quarterback sneak on third and nine, he had to go.
Pat Shermer had no business being a head coach like
this crew. It's not really working out. And like, I
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get it, you like these guys. A lot of people
get fired in the NFL. That people liked Pete Carroll
got fired, Andy Reid got fired like it's part of
the job. But these guys have no shot to win.
And if you add Aaron Rodgers, like their roster is
way worse than the Jets, and unlike the Jets, they
play in a division that's much better. I mean, the
Eagles are a powerhouse. Clearly Washington is going to be improved,
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and they were in the NFC Championship last year. And
let's face it, like the Cowboys had a million injuries,
maybe they're no longer that twelve win team, but they're
way better than the Giants. So I think this Giant
situation is like and even if they end up drafting
Shador with a third overall pick, like I saw Shador
two years ago on a bad Colorado team, they were
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not good. And it's just like if you put players
on bad teams, especially at quarterback like they lets, they're
fucking Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers in his prime, they're
not overcoming that you will lose. We just saw Aaron
Rodgers on a talented team last year lose week after
week after week after week. And I think the Steeler thing,
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and I think what Cam said is reflective kind of
what we all believe. It's like, I just like, I
just can't. It feels like a Bravo show now and
which listen, when you are an elite, when you're a
great player, you can deal with it. Like at one
point in times like yeah, Antonio Brown's nuts, but he'll
give you one hundred and twenty catches and fifteen touchdowns
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a year. Like hey, you just kind of deal with
the nuts. And then it got to the point where like, hey,
he's not giving you that anymore. I'm out. Terrell Owens
became that, and every once in a while quarterback becomes that.
It's like your drama outweighs. I don't know how people
deal with Like I'm pretty lucky my immediate family, there's
not much drama involved. I keep a relatively smaller friend
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circle because I just I can't really deal with crazy drama.
I mean, there are levels where you have to be.
You know, you have a family member, a close friend
who just there's drama in their life. They need help.
Like that's not what I'm talking about. I'm just saying
constantly something. It's like if I'm the Steelers, It's like, listen,
we sucked it up, and we dealt with this weirdo
Russell Wilson. Now we're dealing with mister Iowa, who it
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just isn't as good anymore. Now you could also save
you the Steelers, like what are your options? And I
know it's been reported that they were pretty interested in
bringing Justin Fields back on somewhat of a similar number
to what the Jets gave him, which I honestly think
would have been insane. It's like, wait, you're willing to
give him even a number near that couple of years
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forty million dollars in guarantee thirty and you wouldn't and
you benched him for Russell Wilson. How's that possible? And
you refused as Russell Wilson started not playing well and
it got cold and he looked like a shell of himself.
You refuse to start Fields like that would have showed
you that you essentially threw the last season. So I
think both these franchises. I was pretty aggressive on how
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I was out on the Steelers last year, and I
looked dumb when they started ten and three, and then
everything changed. They started playing good teams and I look
smart again. And listen, I've come to grips with I'm
no longer saying that Mike Tomlin and the Steeler should
get divorce. I don't believe it's gonna happen. I believe
he will be there forever, no matter how many eight
to nine to ten wins seasons he has and how
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many times he gets his ass kicked in the first round. Like,
I'm done, that's it's a take, that's a waste of
my energy. I'm also done ever thinking the Steelers are
gonna suck. They're clearly not. But like their version of
suck is what we are witnessing right now. The team
that just has the same thing every single year. And
clearly the Chiefs are this dynasty team, five super Bowl,
six years, three championships. But that next tier of team
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that cannot beat the Chiefs kicks your ass, the Bills
and the Ravens. So it's like the Chiefs are in
their own category, and then that next tier of the
Bills Ravens have nothing in common with you. They own you. Yeah,
occasionally you could beat the Ravens and Lamar in a
regular season game. No one cares, right, I mean, guys
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like Daron Fox score fifty in random regular season games.
It does not matter in the landscape of the league
and the important games. So it's like, I just think
the Steelers are now in the same spot over and over,
over and over. They can add Rogers, they can bring
back Russell, they can draft Jackson Dart, they could do whatever.
I don't think anything's gonna change. And it sucks if
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you're a Steeler fan because it's like, we're never gonna
bought him out, so we never will have a chance
that the Jayden Daniels or the you know, I don't
think Trevor Lawrence any good, but like that type player
will always just, you know, somehow be nine to ten wins,
be one and done in the playoffs, not host a
playoff game, have a stretch in the regular season. We're like,
are we pretty good? And it's like, no, you're actually not.
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So it's just the same, all same old, And now
now you're waiting on a forty one year old who's
twing with your emotions. That's what it's come to. You're
waiting on a forty one year old that we've all
acknowledged isn't that good anymore? Like he's not worthy of
like we should be but we're desperate. What else are
we supposed to do? And the answer is, you're screwed. Okay,
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we'll get out of here on this. Some potential rule changes. Obviously,
one of the headliners over the last couple of months
has been the Packers want to ban the tush push.
My overall take is I don't care if they ban it.
I don't. It will not bother me. If they let
them continue to do that will not bother me either,
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because anyone can do the toush push. The only team
that has the guy who is a little shorter that
can squat six hundred plus pounds is them. Because I
saw Josh Allen, who I thought is one of the stronger,
bigger quarterbacks I've ever seen, try to run quarterback sneaks
and he couldn't gain a half yard. So I just
don't care. Ban it? Cool, you don't ban it, okay,
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don't doesn't bother me. But I do think there are
some pretty important potential rule changes. I have been saying
forever as a fan of football, someone the gambles on football,
as someone who just watches a ton of football, the
amount of games in tight. Most NFL games are close.
I think eighty percent of games are within one score
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in the fourth quarter, So giving teams automatic first downs
on defensive holding is the most I think one of
the craziest things in the NFL rule book. How often
do you watch a third and ten in the second
half tie game down three up three and a team
it's third and nine and some questionable defensive holding or
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illegal contact, automatic first down. It's fucking bullshit. I would
even go a step farther pass interference. We should go
college fifteen yard penalty, but that's a different discussion. No problem.
If it's third and three, defensive holding first down, but
automatic first down. We have seen so often second and long,
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third and long. It'd be like third and fifteen and
there'd be a defensive holding automatic first down, especially when
the quarterback doesn't even throw that guy's way and it
doesn't even come close to being completed. So the Detroit Lions,
Dan Campbell, Brad Holmes and the Ford family F one
fifty number one selling truck in America, no free ads,
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but it's truth. They want that gune, They want that
changed and just make it a spot foul. So if
it's third and nine and it happens at three yards. Okay,
it's now third and six. I'm all for it. I
am one hundred percent down because the automatic first down
on that play has has an outweighed impact on the
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outcomes of way too many games. This is not college
football where half the games during the fall are fifteen
to twenty thirty points spreads. That's not the case. All
these games are close, or the majority of them are,
and so many times coming down the home stretch, and
it probably impacts more games earlier in the game two.
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But it's like a tigh game, six minutes left and
it would have been a punt, and then all of
a sudden you get a first down. It leads to
a field goal, and that's the difference in a game.
So props to the Lions on that one. They also,
I guess a lot of teams are behind the reseting
of the playoff teams. Essentially no longer the first four
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seeds one through four are the four division winners, because
we have constantly seen you know, nine ten win teams
usually be the fourth, sometimes even the third seed. And
yet we've had wildcard teams win twelve, thirteen, fourteen games
and have to go on the road in the playoffs,
so they are discussing making Basically, the top seven seeds
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in the playoffs are just buy record. And now if
you win the division, you do get a playoff spot,
So four of the seven spots are still going to
go to the division winner, which I'm all for, but
you don't automatic I actually get a home game. Look
at the Vikings now, because of the fires, they ended
up playing in Arizona, but the Vikings had to go
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on the road. The Vikings were sixty minutes away from
being the number one overall set. Instead they lose, and
all of a sudden they're playing a Monday night game
in Glendale, Arizona, which still kind of worked out to
be a home game for them because of how many
people from the Minnesota general area. You know, I would
say live, you know in Arizona, but that's beside the point.
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They have one of the best home field advantages in
the NFL. So I'm totally for this. I know a
lot of people have hit me up over the years
asking if they should do A team can pick whoever
they want to play. I think that's fun to talk
about and it's a cool discussion. It will never happen
and all thirty two teams, the good and the bad
teams would not want that, so totally for that. The
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other thing is, I think the Steelers put through this
rule out which I don't hate. Right now, during the
tampering period, you are, based on the letter of the law,
not allowed to talk to the player. So if I'm
the New England Patriots and I want Milton Williams, I
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can talk to his agent. But if I'm Vrabel or
my defensive coordinator, I can't get on the horn with Milton.
I have to wait till the official start of the
league year to talk to him. They want to make
the tampering period allow you to talk to a player,
So if I'm recruiting Player X as a free agent,
I basically can't talk to him where I can avoid that.
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Remember Saquan said something about how he talked to him
last year and then he had to push back and
it turns out, you know, it's like, I think the
fix is pretty simple. You are allowed. You're not allowed
to announce anything. But to me, the tampering period should
start at the NFL combine and then the league year.
Whenever that tampering period quote unquote starts should be that
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Monday in the league year, and then for maybe even
three days, so it could be a Sunday you're allowed
to negotiate with the player and the agent. Because it
is very you have to be extremely naive to think
that these discussions aren't happening very very frequently at the Combine.
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So we all know the Combine is the unofficial start
to legal tampering. Yet you can't start quote unquote legal
tampering till like a week later on Monday. It's just
it's very disingenuous, and it's just not the way the
real world works. So to me, I would mess with
the Combine and have that as some sort of legal
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tampering and try to ideally give it a week where
you start announcing the deals. But even right now, once
the legal tampering period begins, all these deals start breaking.
You think we just come to an agreement sixty million
dollars Monday at noon. Of course not. We've been talking
for a week. So I think there's something to be
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manipulated with the legal tampering, with the discussions, and just
make it all legal so we don't even have to
pretend anymore. But I'm all for the Lions and the
defensive holding in illegal contact not resulting in an automatic
first down and not against either. The reseting just based
on records, even though the four division winners get an
(33:28):
auto spot. The volume
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