This week on the podcast John reacted to world no.1 Scottie Scheffler's dominant performance at the PGA Championship at Quail Hollow, the Eagles extending Nick Sirianni, and the big news out of the NFL owners meetings that saw the league vote to keep the "Tush Push". All that and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume, What is going on every body, how are
we doing? Hopefully everyone is doing well out there in
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the real world, and hopefully you're having a good Memorial
Day weekend. We thought we'd put together a little best
of for the weekend while you know, we're probably having
a few cocktails, enjoying some sun, cruising around with the
fam hanging out. So here's the deal. We put together
a little something something, starting with Scottie Scheffler, who won
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his third major and now has a chance to really
head toward legendary status and put the pedal to the medal,
but gets over the edge dominates guys like John Rahm
and Bryson D. Schambeau. The Philadelphia Eagles had a lot
going on last week, but it's arded with them extending
Nick Sirianni so he will be the coach for the
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foreseeable future. And to top on that, the tush push,
which I would say has been a defining play for
Sirianni in his tenure with Jalen, survived, so we discussed
that as well. Jason Kelsey coming out of the bullpen
to help talk a lot of owners that were on
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the fence to the Eagle side and that play can
still rock and roll. So let's dive into some football
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prices guaranteed. Well. After Scotty's little mishap over the winter
break when he split open his hand and got glass
yards in there, he claims making raviolis. Listen, we've all
had some misapps, having a few cocktails. Regardless how it happened,
his season got off to a slow start. He had
a tiger like season last year, winning what felt like
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every freaking tournament. He won the Masters, he won the FedEx,
he won like sixty million dollars, and it was like,
this guy's a monster. And then this year happens and
he doesn't win the Masters, and it's like, you know, Scotty,
like right now, at this point in time in his career,
the money, the wins, the I mean, he's just such
a heavy favorite in every tournament he plays in. Now,
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you know, four or plus four hundred or plus three hundred,
he's like a four to three to one. I mean,
good players typically, as someone who's been gambling on golf
now for I don't know half a decade, you know,
high high end guys are like eleven to one, twelve
to one, fourteen to one, and Scotty is routinely like
four to one, and honestly, it doesn't feel that crazy.
Your boy might have threw a little on him, why,
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just because he's a great player, and then all of
a sudden in the middle of these tournaments he'll be
like minus four fifty. Like this guy's a fucking monster.
I don't know what it looked like in the Tiger era,
because you know, the draft Kings of the world did
not exist, but I would imagine there were a lot
of similarities. When this guy gets on and he won
the tournament Saturday night or Saturday afternoon, that's when the
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tournament was won. And I would say, listen, Scotty Scheffler
has won a lot, He's won multiple green jackets. That
stretch that he had on Saturday afternoon, hold fourteen to
close it out till eighteen, you know, birdying four of
his last five holes and just knocking it stiff after stiff.
It's like she had to be one, especially relative to
the field as the entire field has fallen apart, had
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to be one of the greatest five six hole stretches
of his career. And today what feels good about validating
this if you're Scottie Scheffler is like there were some questions,
like he plays really well at the Masters, He's won
all these tournaments, Like are you gonna start knocking off
some of these other majors. He's like, yeah, yes i am.
We'll start with here at Quail Hollow. You know that
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course that everyone says that Rory wins over and over,
or that course that your boy thought that Bryson d.
Chambeau was going to demolish. I'm not just gonna win that.
I'm gonna win that by five. And I'm also gonna
bogie eighteen where I easily could have won by six.
No one was even close to me. Remember a couple
of weeks ago when I won by like ten and
I absolutely blew up the field, and you're like, well,
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you're playing nobody's how about we go to a major
best field in golf? Mean, he said the PGA Championship,
and I beat the living piss at everyone in sight.
And that's what he just did. And listen, I'm not
going to compare anyone ever to Tiger Woods. But Scotty
is a monster. I mean he is. He is so
freaking good at golf it's stupid. And here's the thing.
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Over the last five years at majors. This guy is
a bright lights player. Starting in twenty twenty one, he
was T eighteen, thaight, T seven, T eight and all
the majors. Then he started winning. In twenty two, he
won the Masters, He missed the cut at the PGA,
but then he finished second at the US Open T
twenty one, and these last couple of years, it's like
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it's not even a fair fight. T ten, T two third,
T twenty three, first, TA T forty one, T seven,
fourth first, And he's gonna be the heavy heavy favorite
at Oakmont and his game like no one will ever
be Tiger Woods. I've said it all the time. His
name is unique, right, just his story, his dad Earl,
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like the whole thing, I mean, started from a young age,
the dominance. But what this guy's doing right now, and
I felt pretty confident about this, Like is he gonna
win fifteen majors like Tiger? Of course not, I think
that would be crazy to even put out there. But
is this guy more likely to win eight or nine
than four or five? I would say yes, because the
only thing that could remotely slow him down was some
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glass yards in a hand. Because when you watch him
against Bryson against Rohm, against whoever, there's a clear gap
and Rory, who will get and do in a minute?
Like what the hell was that? Now? You could argue
that Rory winning the Masters playing with a little house money,
not as much pressure on this tournament. I would tend
to agree. But when you're having one of the best
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seasons of your career, you've already won three times, you
get the monkey off your back. With the Masters, this
is a course in which you've won it multiple times.
You would think that he would show up, but he's
nowhere to be found. Bryson is an incredible talent. I mean,
to me, the craziest part about Bryson is he is
blowing it thirty forty yards by Scotty Scheffler. His short
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game is unreal. I mean, he had a couple flop
shots to day around the green as someone that had
him to finish in the top five, like I was
kind of on tilt, but he had a couple wedges
around the green that were world class. And his putting
is excellent. But to me, like you watch Scotty Scheffler,
I could give him a seven iron and I'd go,
Scotty hit this two hundred yards, he could hit it
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two hundred yards. Say, I could say Scotty hit like
a buttercut and hit it one hundred and fifty eight
yards and he could hit it about that vicinity. Meanwhile,
Bryson's one hundred and ninety five yards, He's hitting nine iron. Like,
I'm not here to nitpick Bryson's operation. It clearly works
and he's an elite player. But like the gap between
Scotty and Bryson when it just comes to hitting irons,
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Like I heard I was going to pick up dinner
last night and I was listening to the No Laying Up.
They do like a reaction show after every major day,
and DJ Pie, one of their guys, was saying, like,
it can't be easy to play when you're hitting a
nine iron one hundred and ninety five yards, Like what
are you hitting a six iron one? Like what's the
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point of some of these longer clubs. It's not like
you're hitting a five iron two hundred and ninety yards,
so your distances are all wacky, But like your wedges,
like what are you doing from like one forty one
fifty one seventy and a couple times a day you're
watching Bryson, He's not even close. And that's where Scotty
will eat you alive, is like give him one sixty.
That's where he's very, very comfortable with. And you're watching Bryson,
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who honestly should have been right there. But his iron
play is just kind of wacky. I mean, listen, I'm
not one to say like he shouldn't be playing the
same length irons, but like whatever Scotty is able to
do with like a seven iron a nine iron in
his hand, it feels like Bryson's playing like Kyle Kyle
Berkshire on Instagram. It's like, what are we doing here?
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And listen John Rahm, who to me is like a
legit high end player when he's on like today, melted
at the end, but a lot like Scotty, like has
a bunch of different shots in the back, and at
one point in time today Scotty is just leaking oil,
just your classic playing like shit. He's just playing really bad,
not because the moment's too big, not because he's overwhelmed,
not because he's never won a big tournament, not because
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there's he's just not on. Something was just off and
then you look up he finishes the ninth toll or basically,
he's on ten, he's nine under. John Rom is also
nine under with a Birdie putt on twelve from like
ten feet, John Ram misses his Scotty, then Birdie's ten,
and then it flips and then Scotty never looks back.
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And once Scotty got that little buffer, then Rom get
toward whatever they call it, the Green Mile and just
kind of imploded. And then it ended up like John
Rom's not even on like the leaderboard you see on TV,
and Bryson's right there. Now, Bryson technically wasn't that close,
but there were a couple of moments today and even
yesterday it's like I don't really know what's going on.
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Like I get it, he's got these weird irons, but uh,
you know, to me, Scotty's a much more complete player
for a guy that's not even hitting it. And I
heard a couple of people say, like, if you followed
that group with Xander and Rory and Scotty on Thursday
and Friday, that those guys are blowing it by Scotty
like twenty yards twenty five yards, and listen, if you
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play with another individual that's longer than you. That's not
that weird. It is kind of weird when you look
at Scotty. He's a big ass dude. Xander's much smaller
and he hits it way farther than him. But like
when you're splitting fair ways and then you're knocking it
on greens and you're making putts like it doesn't really matter.
And that's the one thing with golf. Obviously distance is
very very important. Bryson's kind of hacked the system, but
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you still got to get the ball in the hole,
and that, to me is a skill that like, even
when Scotty started to unravel today, I never thought like
this is implosion coming. It never crossed my mind he
was gonna shoot seventy six. Now I did this think
like if John rom starts birdying three or four holes,
maybe they just both end up at like ten or
eleven under it and we have a playoff. But the
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one thing that Scotty has in the back, and I
would say this is the similarity with Tiger and what
Rory definitely does not have in common. It's hard to
fathom him, just if he has a shitty front nine,
him backing that up with a bad back nine. In
a tournament like this where when we watched Rory at
the Masters, you're like, he could blow this, Like it
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didn't cross my mind that Scotty was going to blow it.
Now he opened the door and lets someone in. But
you're like, he's got a couple of par fives, like
you know, if this was football, he'll make some place.
And what did he do? He made some place and
then obviously the course is difficult. You know, rom had
to get aggressive and he just kind of melted it down.
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And Bryson. That's the thing with Bryson. It's like he's
been off, I thought in the Masters and definitely this
week with his iron play, with his approach game. But
his wedges are I mean a couple. He had a
flop shot today on fourteen, that drivable par four where
he hits it right of the bunker and it's way
above on the mound. I can't even imagine how difficult
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that shot is and he knocked it like three or
four feet, and it's like, Bryson, you have incredible touch
around the greens. You're obviously an elite putter now and
I think most would consider you, especially if Rory is
going to drive the ball like he did this week.
You're the best driver in the world. What is going
on with this this iron situation, and listen, Scotty took
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advantage of it, and he wins his third major, and
all signs point to him. Now Oakmont, which many consider
like the hardest golf course in the world, especially when
you factor in major conditions. And if I just tell
you out loud, they're going to play the hardest golf
course in the world. Who are you going to like,
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you would immediately say Scotty Scheffler. Now, I don't know
if he's gonna win the US Open by five or
six shots, but I think at this point in time,
given the way he's played now in his last two
events and what he did over the course of the
last two days, uh, it would be stunning if he
doesn't win this US Open. And if he wins the
US Open, Listen, the British is weird. Whether you never know,
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it does feel like he's so good that he will
inevitably win one. You just kind of with a guy
who knows. I do feel pretty confident at this point
in time, Like you see some of these guys, like
you know, Spease one four Keepka's one five, Rory's won five.
Like like, it feels like Scotty's gonna fly right by
him and the only thing that can slow him down
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is an injury because he's got Ted Scott, who's Bubba
Bubba Watson's old caddie. Uh. Their cohesion like it's like
the equivalent like Belichick and Brady. It's like they were
just made for each other. It's perfect. And what a
fucking clinic. And honestly, what he did on Saturday afternoon,
if you tell me, like what's been Scotty Scheffler's coolest
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like hour that you remember watching him play golf would
be Saturday afternoon at Kuile Hollow in the PGA Championship. Now,
he's only twenty eight years old, He's got a lot
of golf left. But like, so far in his career
and he listened, he's won the Masters multiple times. But
it does feel like that stretch on Saturday afternoon was
the equivalent of like a drag race and he's in
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like a legit drag racing car and you're in like
a Pinto and he flew by everybody and it gave
him that buffer today where when he is just all
over the map, but he starts with a bogie. This
week on one he's hitting the ball over the place,
off the tea. You're like, God, what is going on here?
It gave him a little breathing room. And to me,
if he doesn't have that breathing room, if he instead
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of shooting sixty five, he shoots sixty nine and he
only has a one shot leader, he's tied, and all
of a sudden he's three back. I think that pressure.
It just would have been a different situation right given
where he would have stood on the leaderboard. But he
couldn't have been playing any shittier. Rom had made multiple
birdies and we're tired and he's ahead of me, so
I still got the par fives. It was just a
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different mindset. So I do believe no matter what anyone
says that this tournament was one on Saturday. But that's
what Scotty Scheffer does when everyone else was not playing
well because the course was playing outrageously hard. I mean,
this is the place that a lot of times, like
you watch Augusta, You're like, I understand, it's hard. I
would love to play there. You watch Pinehurst, You're like, listen,
(15:26):
I want to play that golf course. Even last week
you're watching Philly Cricket Club, You're like, I would love
to tee it up there. Anytime they're playing overseas, you're like, this,
Saint Andrew's you name it right, I would love to
do this as long as it's not too cold and
too wet. This is one of those rare courses that
they play in a big event where you go, yeah,
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I got no interest. Does not look fun, I mean,
does not look like an enjoyable round of golf. Too long,
too much rough, The greens are way too hard. It
just looks like miserable golf. And when I tell you,
it's like miserably hard, difficult conditions, firm greens, not shocking
the Scotty, just one by five.
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Okay, let's start with the Siriani extension, and do I
need to do a Maya Kopa and apologize and embrace
where I've been as guilty as anyone of just shitting
on a guy who now gets a multi year extension,
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who's a super Bowl champion, who has a record that
you could argue through his first four seasons was better
than Jim Harbaugh's first four seasons with the forty nine ers.
Sirianni is forty eight and twenty six and three in
the playoffs with a ring. Harball was forty four and nineteen. Now, granted,
they're playing more games now they did back then, but
Sirianni's got more wins, and obviously the difference in their
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resumes is one guy has super Bowl and the other
guy does not. And I had to spend a lot
of time thinking about this and listen, clearly, the Eagles
players like the guy, and the team plays really really
hard for him. But once I saw this headline come out, Now, granted,
when the season ended, it was clear like he was
in line for an extension. What were they going to do,
like let him walk? Of course, you win a super Bowl,
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he was gonna get some money. Sounds like a multi
year deal. It's not like they're making him, you know,
the coach for life. This isn't like doesn't quite feel
like a Harball or Tomlin situation. But let's face it,
he's been good and he got rewarded today, and the
reality is his Most human beings in any field can't
overcome everything. Aren't just destined for greatness, destined for success.
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Most people, including myself, including the majority of people listening
to this, need a lot of help, need people to
go into business with, to partner with, to work for
that know what they're doing. And when I was thinking
about the NFL, like Andy Reid's an outlier. Andy Reid
went to Philadelphia when they were a joke and a
couple of years later has them in the NFC Championship,
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the NFC Championship, the NFC Championship, and they just start winning.
Then he goes to Kansas City, who had the number
one overall pick. Obviously, what he's done there speaks for himself.
Peyton Manning is a good example. He could have gone anywhere.
Peyton Manning could have played for me, he could have
played for you, He could have played for our mothers.
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It would not have mattered. He was going to be successful.
That's not true about Tom Brady. Tom Brady could not
have been drafted anywhere and been a success. Maybe he
wouldn't have gotten the opportunity. Maybe he wouldn't have gone
to a place that fit him scheme wise, Maybe he
wouldn't have gone to a place that believed in him,
because that's typically what happens sometimes with later round picks.
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They're just kind of afterthoughts. Instead, he got to go
to Bill Belichick and it changed his life. Hell, we
just saw it with Brock Purty. There's a big difference
of your Brock Purty that getting drafted to a team
that either has an established quarterback or a chaotic situation,
then going to Kyle Shanahan. A couple injuries later, you
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become his franchise quarterback and he's an offensive guy and
the team's loaded, and it just kind of works. Most
human beings need help. Most of us are very dependent
on our situation. Hell, I can speak from experience. I
really benefit doing what I'm doing being associated with and
working with, for partnered with however you want to put
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it with Colin, it changed my life. The amount of
people that you never know about or see behind the
scenes working on this podcast is long, from audio video
producers to salespeople. We've got a lot of people helping
me out. And I know a lot of you can
relate like your success has come from working with the
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right people, getting into business with the right people, marrying
the right person. It can change your life for the better.
And yeah, does Sirianni benefit from working for an owner
that basically has unlimited pocketbooks when it comes to investing
in his football team to working for and with a
general manager that I would say is widely considered as
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the best GM, smartest GM in the National Football League?
Did he benefit from going to a team that already
had guys like Jason Kelcey, Brandon Graham, Fletcher Cox, Lane
Johnson on the roster? Of course he did. But you
could say the same thing for Jim Harball. The team
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was not winning when he got to San Francisco. Guess
what Patrick Willis, Joe Staley, Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, they
were already on the team. They just needed some direction.
But he did not turn guys like me and you
into players. And I think Sirianni, like the majority of coaches,
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needed help, and if you put him in the right situation,
he can succeed. Look at Mike Tomlin once upon a
time when he's hired out of nowhere in the mid
two thousands. However old he was thirty three, thirty four
years old. You think he benefited going to you could
argue the most stable organization in like the history of
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American sports. Look at John Harball when he got hired
in the mid two thousands by the Baltimore Ravens. Guess
what he got to inherit. I don't know Ozzie Newsom,
who's a Hall of Fame player and should be a
Hall of Fame general man. He also got guys like
Ed Reed, Helod Nada and Ray freaking Lewis were already
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on the roster and established elite players. That helps take
the Jags job. See how that goes. Most people fail.
So when I look at Nick Sirianni, where I got
it wrong is I think I overthought it. He's going
to a place now that is equipped. You're gonna win
when you go there, and if you don't have a
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massive ego and refuse to listen to anyone and think
that you've invented football like a coach a couple times
ago with the Eagles, you're gonna have success. I understand.
Doug Peterson got run out of town. He also won
a fucking super Bowl. So seeing Nick Sirianni win a
Super Bowl have a team that's really good, like good Spot,
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most coaches would die to coach there. Why because the
infrastructure there is pretty special.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
You know.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Look at Kyle Shanahan that up until last year most
considered one of the best coaches in the NFL. It
was not going well at all through a couple of
years in San Francisco, and then Belichick got on the
horn and said, Kyle, we will trade you Jimmy Garoppolo.
You interested. Kyle said, uh uh, what do you mean?
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He's like you got thirty minutes second round pick. Click
changed the course of the forty nine ers hell even
the next year. Then he tears his acl which led
to Nick Bosa, meaning they had the number two overall pick.
Like it was not all sunshine and rainbows, because that
was a place where you needed some help. You needed
some luck because there was no infrastructure. It was a
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joke and the Eagles clearly or not. And Nick Sirianni
has benefited from that. But obviously he brings up to
the table, he knows what he's doing, his ability to
work with other coaches, like he's not the coordinator, he's
just the motivator. And we give a lot of credit
to Mike Tomlin who never loses, or John Harbaugh or
Jim Harbaugh, like Sirianni's in that world and he's doing
(23:59):
a good job. And you go out and I get
the Chiefs had some offensive line issues, but you beat
the living you know what out of them in the playoffs.
You know you deserve your flowers and obviously you deserve
a contract extension. So props to Nick Siriani. The NBA
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Speaker 1 (26:04):
The tush push has survived, and the Eagles and Jalen
Hurts and Nick Sirianni will get in short yard of
situations in the goal line and they will score touchdowns
and they will create first downs. And my overall take
on this has been kind of indifferent, and I'm typically
on I would say polarizing topics. Not usually a fence sitter.
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But I was unbothered by the play, but also understood
if it disappeared tomorrow, I wouldn't be faced. Completely understood
why the Eagles would want it, and I understood the
old school football guys like Mike Vrabel going, what are
we actually talking about?
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There?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Is a football play, and they have a player who
is better at this than anyone else. If you have
a quarterback who can squat six hundred and fifty pounds,
you would do the same thing. We saw Josh Allen,
one of the strongest, most athletic players in the NFL,
and an inability to gain half a yard, and part
of it was because, unlike Jalen to go low, he
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had to go hi. And so I was I'm cool
with this, and I do understand the detractors. I get
the NFL. I don't get all caught up like Jeffrey Lurie.
It's a healthy play. Jason Kelcey, who has kind of
gone viral that there was a big ESPN dot com
article about an impassioned plea how him and Jerry Jones
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were watching film and Jerry's like, listen, I don't want
to give the Eagles an advantage, but makes a good point.
So you know, the Jeffrey Luriy and how we break
out the big guns bringing Kelsey to talk about this
place and if we could run this sixty times a game,
I'd still be playing in the NFL. And listen, the
reason this works for the Eagles is they have a
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dominant offensive line, but most importantly the quarterback. If the
quarterback was someone else, it would not be as effective.
So Jared GoF or Brock Purty or Josh Allen or
just go around the league Mayfield. The advantage is the
strength of Jalen. And like Vrabel was saying, like, what
stops us from doing this and that like defending the Eagles,
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And I was like, yeah, I don't care. And some
of the the comments to come out, you know, Jeffrey Lewiy,
I guess gave like a long diatribe about the health
of this play and if you take this play out,
it'll actually make guys less safe, even for your teams.
And I guess dropped a line about a young child's
wet dream with how great this play is. And then
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Troy Vincent, you know, went full ESPN was like, that's
offensive to the women in here. It's like, Troy, calm down, buddy.
Any person in this room offended by using the words
wet dream, Like, give me a break. This is this
multi billion dollar business. No one's offended by that classic
Jeffrey Loury line. But ultimately this place survives, and I
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think we're a year away, if the Eagles dominate again
and they win. Like if the Eagles were winning six
to seven games, no one would care, this would not
be a talking point. But they've been to two of
the last three Super Bowls and they just beat the
shit out of the Chiefs, and if they do it again,
if they go back to back and beat the crap
at everybody, And this play is obviously a huge part
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of their arsenal because when they get down to the
goal line, they are scoring a touchdown, When they get
in a short yarded situation, they are moving the chains.
It's basically automatic and it will go away, but as
of right now, they get to use it another year.
And listen, the Eagles are obviously going to be one
of the heavy favorites to win the Super Bowl and
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be a dominant team and be a playoff team and
probably win the division. So it's this story is not
going to go away, but the Eagles and use it
utilizing Jason Kelcey, which Jed York tweeted about like I
owe the guy a beer. You know, listen, there are
certain guys that just can own a room and their passion,
their ability to connect and they're just likable, like a
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certain human just resonate with other people because they are
just likable people. And Jason has always been one of
those guys, Like he could go into a room with anybody.
I mean, it's it's honestly the power of that individual.
That's why him and his brother created a podcast with
like two years later it's worth a hundred million dollars.
You could put Jason in a room, you know, it's
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some dive bar in some blue collar town with a
bunch of dudes making thirty forty thousand dollars a year,
and he would get along with them perfectly. You can
put him in a room with a bunch of guys
that are worth ten and eleven figures and have teams
worth five to ten billion dollars, and they can have
normal conversations with them. It's just a skill that man possesses.
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It's why you know, you typically the guys that communicate
in sports, whether it's a point guard, whether it's a
quarterback obviously the center, like, they usually can communicate well
with a lot of different people. And Kelsey's ability to
go in that room, like the Eagles aren't dumb, right,
a pretty smart organization. I don't think I mean, best
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case scenario, it went as well as it did bringing
him in, because let's face it, like, and I don't
blame it. We're all selfish. I say it all the
time people in One thing I've talked to Maria a
lot about since we've been dating, is like, sometimes she
gets really caught up when you know things in business
don't go away. It's like, people are selfish. So when
you go into the mindset, not trying to fuck the
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other person, but just realize, like at the end of
the day, they will make a decision with themselves, their
family first. That's never gonna change. And it's never really changed.
And I think the Eagles were selfish on this. They
don't want to lose the play. I don't blame them,
And I bet there were a lot of people in
the room who are kind of like whatever, like I
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keep it great, like me, and bringing Jason Kelcey in clearly.
I think Florio reported on it. It swung several teams
like the Browns, the Lions, like it's a big deal.
I mean, twenty two to ten pretty cool. I mean,
you're just two votes away from this thing going bye bye.
So I do feel pretty confident though. If the Eagles
win again, honestly, they don't even need to win the
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Super Bowl. If they just have a twelve or thirteen
win season and they're deep in the playoffs, this conversation
is not going to stop. And the Packers admitted, like
the NFL used them as a guinea pick. The Packers
did not care. Again, the Packers like most of us
like whatever, like, yeah, the play is kind of boring,
we know the outcome, but like it's their advantage. The
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NFL utilized them to be at the forefront of like
get rid of this thing, and people within the Packers like, yeah,
it wasn't that big a deal to us, Like we
actually kind of respect it. So the NFL will do
that again next year, because if this play is the
conversation about it, you could argue has only gotten bigger.
So congrats to the Eagles fans. You got a pitch
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that you can continue to use and it's very, very effective.
So I would expect Jalen Hurts and those guys to
get some extra touchdowns because of this play, because that's
what they all always due. The volume
Speaker 2 (33:07):
M hmm
The volume, What is going on every body, how are
we doing? Hopefully everyone is doing well out there in
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the real world, and hopefully you're having a good Memorial
Day weekend. We thought we'd put together a little best
of for the weekend while you know, we're probably having
a few cocktails, enjoying some sun, cruising around with the
fam hanging out. So here's the deal. We put together
a little something something, starting with Scottie Scheffler, who won
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his third major and now has a chance to really
head toward legendary status and put the pedal to the medal,
but gets over the edge dominates guys like John Rahm
and Bryson D. Schambeau. The Philadelphia Eagles had a lot
going on last week, but it's arded with them extending
Nick Sirianni so he will be the coach for the
(01:05):
foreseeable future. And to top on that, the tush push,
which I would say has been a defining play for
Sirianni in his tenure with Jalen, survived, so we discussed
that as well. Jason Kelsey coming out of the bullpen
to help talk a lot of owners that were on
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the fence to the Eagle side and that play can
still rock and roll. So let's dive into some football
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prices guaranteed. Well. After Scotty's little mishap over the winter
break when he split open his hand and got glass
yards in there, he claims making raviolis. Listen, we've all
had some misapps, having a few cocktails. Regardless how it happened,
his season got off to a slow start. He had
a tiger like season last year, winning what felt like
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every freaking tournament. He won the Masters, he won the FedEx,
he won like sixty million dollars, and it was like,
this guy's a monster. And then this year happens and
he doesn't win the Masters, and it's like, you know, Scotty,
like right now, at this point in time in his career,
the money, the wins, the I mean, he's just such
a heavy favorite in every tournament he plays in. Now,
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you know, four or plus four hundred or plus three hundred,
he's like a four to three to one. I mean,
good players typically, as someone who's been gambling on golf
now for I don't know half a decade, you know,
high high end guys are like eleven to one, twelve
to one, fourteen to one, and Scotty is routinely like
four to one, and honestly, it doesn't feel that crazy.
Your boy might have threw a little on him, why,
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just because he's a great player, and then all of
a sudden in the middle of these tournaments he'll be
like minus four fifty. Like this guy's a fucking monster.
I don't know what it looked like in the Tiger era,
because you know, the draft Kings of the world did
not exist, but I would imagine there were a lot
of similarities. When this guy gets on and he won
the tournament Saturday night or Saturday afternoon, that's when the
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tournament was won. And I would say, listen, Scotty Scheffler
has won a lot, He's won multiple green jackets. That
stretch that he had on Saturday afternoon, hold fourteen to
close it out till eighteen, you know, birdying four of
his last five holes and just knocking it stiff after stiff.
It's like she had to be one, especially relative to
the field as the entire field has fallen apart, had
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to be one of the greatest five six hole stretches
of his career. And today what feels good about validating
this if you're Scottie Scheffler is like there were some questions,
like he plays really well at the Masters, He's won
all these tournaments, Like are you gonna start knocking off
some of these other majors. He's like, yeah, yes i am.
We'll start with here at Quail Hollow. You know that
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course that everyone says that Rory wins over and over,
or that course that your boy thought that Bryson d.
Chambeau was going to demolish. I'm not just gonna win that.
I'm gonna win that by five. And I'm also gonna
bogie eighteen where I easily could have won by six.
No one was even close to me. Remember a couple
of weeks ago when I won by like ten and
I absolutely blew up the field, and you're like, well,
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you're playing nobody's how about we go to a major
best field in golf? Mean, he said the PGA Championship,
and I beat the living piss at everyone in sight.
And that's what he just did. And listen, I'm not
going to compare anyone ever to Tiger Woods. But Scotty
is a monster. I mean he is. He is so
freaking good at golf it's stupid. And here's the thing.
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Over the last five years at majors. This guy is
a bright lights player. Starting in twenty twenty one, he
was T eighteen, thaight, T seven, T eight and all
the majors. Then he started winning. In twenty two, he
won the Masters, He missed the cut at the PGA,
but then he finished second at the US Open T
twenty one, and these last couple of years, it's like
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it's not even a fair fight. T ten, T two third,
T twenty three, first, TA T forty one, T seven,
fourth first, And he's gonna be the heavy heavy favorite
at Oakmont and his game like no one will ever
be Tiger Woods. I've said it all the time. His
name is unique, right, just his story, his dad Earl,
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like the whole thing, I mean, started from a young age,
the dominance. But what this guy's doing right now, and
I felt pretty confident about this, Like is he gonna
win fifteen majors like Tiger? Of course not, I think
that would be crazy to even put out there. But
is this guy more likely to win eight or nine
than four or five? I would say yes, because the
only thing that could remotely slow him down was some
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glass yards in a hand. Because when you watch him
against Bryson against Rohm, against whoever, there's a clear gap
and Rory, who will get and do in a minute?
Like what the hell was that? Now? You could argue
that Rory winning the Masters playing with a little house money,
not as much pressure on this tournament. I would tend
to agree. But when you're having one of the best
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seasons of your career, you've already won three times, you
get the monkey off your back. With the Masters, this
is a course in which you've won it multiple times.
You would think that he would show up, but he's
nowhere to be found. Bryson is an incredible talent. I mean,
to me, the craziest part about Bryson is he is
blowing it thirty forty yards by Scotty Scheffler. His short
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game is unreal. I mean, he had a couple flop
shots to day around the green as someone that had
him to finish in the top five, like I was
kind of on tilt, but he had a couple wedges
around the green that were world class. And his putting
is excellent. But to me, like you watch Scotty Scheffler,
I could give him a seven iron and I'd go,
Scotty hit this two hundred yards, he could hit it
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two hundred yards. Say, I could say Scotty hit like
a buttercut and hit it one hundred and fifty eight
yards and he could hit it about that vicinity. Meanwhile,
Bryson's one hundred and ninety five yards, He's hitting nine iron. Like,
I'm not here to nitpick Bryson's operation. It clearly works
and he's an elite player. But like the gap between
Scotty and Bryson when it just comes to hitting irons,
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Like I heard I was going to pick up dinner
last night and I was listening to the No Laying Up.
They do like a reaction show after every major day,
and DJ Pie, one of their guys, was saying, like,
it can't be easy to play when you're hitting a
nine iron one hundred and ninety five yards, Like what
are you hitting a six iron one? Like what's the
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point of some of these longer clubs. It's not like
you're hitting a five iron two hundred and ninety yards,
so your distances are all wacky, But like your wedges,
like what are you doing from like one forty one
fifty one seventy and a couple times a day you're
watching Bryson, He's not even close. And that's where Scotty
will eat you alive, is like give him one sixty.
That's where he's very, very comfortable with. And you're watching Bryson,
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who honestly should have been right there. But his iron
play is just kind of wacky. I mean, listen, I'm
not one to say like he shouldn't be playing the
same length irons, but like whatever Scotty is able to
do with like a seven iron a nine iron in
his hand, it feels like Bryson's playing like Kyle Kyle
Berkshire on Instagram. It's like, what are we doing here?
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And listen John Rahm, who to me is like a
legit high end player when he's on like today, melted
at the end, but a lot like Scotty, like has
a bunch of different shots in the back, and at
one point in time today Scotty is just leaking oil,
just your classic playing like shit. He's just playing really bad,
not because the moment's too big, not because he's overwhelmed,
not because he's never won a big tournament, not because
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there's he's just not on. Something was just off and
then you look up he finishes the ninth toll or basically,
he's on ten, he's nine under. John Rom is also
nine under with a Birdie putt on twelve from like
ten feet, John Ram misses his Scotty, then Birdie's ten,
and then it flips and then Scotty never looks back.
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And once Scotty got that little buffer, then Rom get
toward whatever they call it, the Green Mile and just
kind of imploded. And then it ended up like John
Rom's not even on like the leaderboard you see on TV,
and Bryson's right there. Now, Bryson technically wasn't that close,
but there were a couple of moments today and even
yesterday it's like I don't really know what's going on.
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Like I get it, he's got these weird irons, but uh,
you know, to me, Scotty's a much more complete player
for a guy that's not even hitting it. And I
heard a couple of people say, like, if you followed
that group with Xander and Rory and Scotty on Thursday
and Friday, that those guys are blowing it by Scotty
like twenty yards twenty five yards, and listen, if you
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play with another individual that's longer than you. That's not
that weird. It is kind of weird when you look
at Scotty. He's a big ass dude. Xander's much smaller
and he hits it way farther than him. But like
when you're splitting fair ways and then you're knocking it
on greens and you're making putts like it doesn't really matter.
And that's the one thing with golf. Obviously distance is
very very important. Bryson's kind of hacked the system, but
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you still got to get the ball in the hole,
and that, to me is a skill that like, even
when Scotty started to unravel today, I never thought like
this is implosion coming. It never crossed my mind he
was gonna shoot seventy six. Now I did this think
like if John rom starts birdying three or four holes,
maybe they just both end up at like ten or
eleven under it and we have a playoff. But the
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one thing that Scotty has in the back, and I
would say this is the similarity with Tiger and what
Rory definitely does not have in common. It's hard to
fathom him, just if he has a shitty front nine,
him backing that up with a bad back nine. In
a tournament like this where when we watched Rory at
the Masters, you're like, he could blow this, Like it
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didn't cross my mind that Scotty was going to blow it.
Now he opened the door and lets someone in. But
you're like, he's got a couple of par fives, like
you know, if this was football, he'll make some place.
And what did he do? He made some place and
then obviously the course is difficult. You know, rom had
to get aggressive and he just kind of melted it down.
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And Bryson. That's the thing with Bryson. It's like he's
been off, I thought in the Masters and definitely this
week with his iron play, with his approach game. But
his wedges are I mean a couple. He had a
flop shot today on fourteen, that drivable par four where
he hits it right of the bunker and it's way
above on the mound. I can't even imagine how difficult
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that shot is and he knocked it like three or
four feet, and it's like, Bryson, you have incredible touch
around the greens. You're obviously an elite putter now and
I think most would consider you, especially if Rory is
going to drive the ball like he did this week.
You're the best driver in the world. What is going
on with this this iron situation, and listen, Scotty took
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advantage of it, and he wins his third major, and
all signs point to him. Now Oakmont, which many consider
like the hardest golf course in the world, especially when
you factor in major conditions. And if I just tell
you out loud, they're going to play the hardest golf
course in the world. Who are you going to like,
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you would immediately say Scotty Scheffler. Now, I don't know
if he's gonna win the US Open by five or
six shots, but I think at this point in time,
given the way he's played now in his last two
events and what he did over the course of the
last two days, uh, it would be stunning if he
doesn't win this US Open. And if he wins the
US Open, Listen, the British is weird. Whether you never know,
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it does feel like he's so good that he will
inevitably win one. You just kind of with a guy
who knows. I do feel pretty confident at this point
in time, Like you see some of these guys, like
you know, Spease one four Keepka's one five, Rory's won five.
Like like, it feels like Scotty's gonna fly right by
him and the only thing that can slow him down
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is an injury because he's got Ted Scott, who's Bubba
Bubba Watson's old caddie. Uh. Their cohesion like it's like
the equivalent like Belichick and Brady. It's like they were
just made for each other. It's perfect. And what a
fucking clinic. And honestly, what he did on Saturday afternoon,
if you tell me, like what's been Scotty Scheffler's coolest
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like hour that you remember watching him play golf would
be Saturday afternoon at Kuile Hollow in the PGA Championship. Now,
he's only twenty eight years old, He's got a lot
of golf left. But like, so far in his career
and he listened, he's won the Masters multiple times. But
it does feel like that stretch on Saturday afternoon was
the equivalent of like a drag race and he's in
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like a legit drag racing car and you're in like
a Pinto and he flew by everybody and it gave
him that buffer today where when he is just all
over the map, but he starts with a bogie. This
week on one he's hitting the ball over the place,
off the tea. You're like, God, what is going on here?
It gave him a little breathing room. And to me,
if he doesn't have that breathing room, if he instead
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of shooting sixty five, he shoots sixty nine and he
only has a one shot leader, he's tied, and all
of a sudden he's three back. I think that pressure.
It just would have been a different situation right given
where he would have stood on the leaderboard. But he
couldn't have been playing any shittier. Rom had made multiple
birdies and we're tired and he's ahead of me, so
I still got the par fives. It was just a
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different mindset. So I do believe no matter what anyone
says that this tournament was one on Saturday. But that's
what Scotty Scheffer does when everyone else was not playing
well because the course was playing outrageously hard. I mean,
this is the place that a lot of times, like
you watch Augusta, You're like, I understand, it's hard. I
would love to play there. You watch Pinehurst, You're like, listen,
(15:26):
I want to play that golf course. Even last week
you're watching Philly Cricket Club, You're like, I would love
to tee it up there. Anytime they're playing overseas, you're like, this,
Saint Andrew's you name it right, I would love to
do this as long as it's not too cold and
too wet. This is one of those rare courses that
they play in a big event where you go, yeah,
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I got no interest. Does not look fun, I mean,
does not look like an enjoyable round of golf. Too long,
too much rough, The greens are way too hard. It
just looks like miserable golf. And when I tell you,
it's like miserably hard, difficult conditions, firm greens, not shocking
the Scotty, just one by five.
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Okay, let's start with the Siriani extension, and do I
need to do a Maya Kopa and apologize and embrace
where I've been as guilty as anyone of just shitting
on a guy who now gets a multi year extension,
(17:02):
who's a super Bowl champion, who has a record that
you could argue through his first four seasons was better
than Jim Harbaugh's first four seasons with the forty nine ers.
Sirianni is forty eight and twenty six and three in
the playoffs with a ring. Harball was forty four and nineteen. Now, granted,
they're playing more games now they did back then, but
Sirianni's got more wins, and obviously the difference in their
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resumes is one guy has super Bowl and the other
guy does not. And I had to spend a lot
of time thinking about this and listen, clearly, the Eagles
players like the guy, and the team plays really really
hard for him. But once I saw this headline come out, Now, granted,
when the season ended, it was clear like he was
in line for an extension. What were they going to do,
like let him walk? Of course, you win a super Bowl,
(17:45):
he was gonna get some money. Sounds like a multi
year deal. It's not like they're making him, you know,
the coach for life. This isn't like doesn't quite feel
like a Harball or Tomlin situation. But let's face it,
he's been good and he got rewarded today, and the
reality is his Most human beings in any field can't
overcome everything. Aren't just destined for greatness, destined for success.
(18:10):
Most people, including myself, including the majority of people listening
to this, need a lot of help, need people to
go into business with, to partner with, to work for
that know what they're doing. And when I was thinking
about the NFL, like Andy Reid's an outlier. Andy Reid
went to Philadelphia when they were a joke and a
couple of years later has them in the NFC Championship,
(18:33):
the NFC Championship, the NFC Championship, and they just start winning.
Then he goes to Kansas City, who had the number
one overall pick. Obviously, what he's done there speaks for himself.
Peyton Manning is a good example. He could have gone anywhere.
Peyton Manning could have played for me, he could have
played for you, He could have played for our mothers.
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It would not have mattered. He was going to be successful.
That's not true about Tom Brady. Tom Brady could not
have been drafted anywhere and been a success. Maybe he
wouldn't have gotten the opportunity. Maybe he wouldn't have gone
to a place that fit him scheme wise, Maybe he
wouldn't have gone to a place that believed in him,
because that's typically what happens sometimes with later round picks.
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They're just kind of afterthoughts. Instead, he got to go
to Bill Belichick and it changed his life. Hell, we
just saw it with Brock Purty. There's a big difference
of your Brock Purty that getting drafted to a team
that either has an established quarterback or a chaotic situation,
then going to Kyle Shanahan. A couple injuries later, you
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become his franchise quarterback and he's an offensive guy and
the team's loaded, and it just kind of works. Most
human beings need help. Most of us are very dependent
on our situation. Hell, I can speak from experience. I
really benefit doing what I'm doing being associated with and
working with, for partnered with however you want to put
(19:58):
it with Colin, it changed my life. The amount of
people that you never know about or see behind the
scenes working on this podcast is long, from audio video
producers to salespeople. We've got a lot of people helping
me out. And I know a lot of you can
relate like your success has come from working with the
(20:20):
right people, getting into business with the right people, marrying
the right person. It can change your life for the better.
And yeah, does Sirianni benefit from working for an owner
that basically has unlimited pocketbooks when it comes to investing
in his football team to working for and with a
general manager that I would say is widely considered as
(20:42):
the best GM, smartest GM in the National Football League?
Did he benefit from going to a team that already
had guys like Jason Kelcey, Brandon Graham, Fletcher Cox, Lane
Johnson on the roster? Of course he did. But you
could say the same thing for Jim Harball. The team
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was not winning when he got to San Francisco. Guess
what Patrick Willis, Joe Staley, Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, they
were already on the team. They just needed some direction.
But he did not turn guys like me and you
into players. And I think Sirianni, like the majority of coaches,
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needed help, and if you put him in the right situation,
he can succeed. Look at Mike Tomlin once upon a
time when he's hired out of nowhere in the mid
two thousands. However old he was thirty three, thirty four
years old. You think he benefited going to you could
argue the most stable organization in like the history of
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American sports. Look at John Harball when he got hired
in the mid two thousands by the Baltimore Ravens. Guess
what he got to inherit. I don't know Ozzie Newsom,
who's a Hall of Fame player and should be a
Hall of Fame general man. He also got guys like
Ed Reed, Helod Nada and Ray freaking Lewis were already
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on the roster and established elite players. That helps take
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So when I look at Nick Sirianni, where I got
it wrong is I think I overthought it. He's going
to a place now that is equipped. You're gonna win
when you go there, and if you don't have a
(22:28):
massive ego and refuse to listen to anyone and think
that you've invented football like a coach a couple times
ago with the Eagles, you're gonna have success. I understand.
Doug Peterson got run out of town. He also won
a fucking super Bowl. So seeing Nick Sirianni win a
Super Bowl have a team that's really good, like good Spot,
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most coaches would die to coach there. Why because the
infrastructure there is pretty special.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
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Speaker 1 (22:55):
Look at Kyle Shanahan that up until last year most
considered one of the best coaches in the NFL. It
was not going well at all through a couple of
years in San Francisco, and then Belichick got on the
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He's like you got thirty minutes second round pick. Click
changed the course of the forty nine ers hell even
the next year. Then he tears his acl which led
to Nick Bosa, meaning they had the number two overall pick.
Like it was not all sunshine and rainbows, because that
was a place where you needed some help. You needed
some luck because there was no infrastructure. It was a
(23:38):
joke and the Eagles clearly or not. And Nick Sirianni
has benefited from that. But obviously he brings up to
the table, he knows what he's doing, his ability to
work with other coaches, like he's not the coordinator, he's
just the motivator. And we give a lot of credit
to Mike Tomlin who never loses, or John Harbaugh or
Jim Harbaugh, like Sirianni's in that world and he's doing
(23:59):
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the living you know what out of them in the playoffs.
You know you deserve your flowers and obviously you deserve
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The tush push has survived, and the Eagles and Jalen
Hurts and Nick Sirianni will get in short yard of
situations in the goal line and they will score touchdowns
and they will create first downs. And my overall take
on this has been kind of indifferent, and I'm typically
on I would say polarizing topics. Not usually a fence sitter.
(26:27):
But I was unbothered by the play, but also understood
if it disappeared tomorrow, I wouldn't be faced. Completely understood
why the Eagles would want it, and I understood the
old school football guys like Mike Vrabel going, what are
we actually talking about?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
There?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Is a football play, and they have a player who
is better at this than anyone else. If you have
a quarterback who can squat six hundred and fifty pounds,
you would do the same thing. We saw Josh Allen,
one of the strongest, most athletic players in the NFL,
and an inability to gain half a yard, and part
of it was because, unlike Jalen to go low, he
(27:03):
had to go hi. And so I was I'm cool
with this, and I do understand the detractors. I get
the NFL. I don't get all caught up like Jeffrey Lurie.
It's a healthy play. Jason Kelcey, who has kind of
gone viral that there was a big ESPN dot com
article about an impassioned plea how him and Jerry Jones
(27:24):
were watching film and Jerry's like, listen, I don't want
to give the Eagles an advantage, but makes a good point.
So you know, the Jeffrey Luriy and how we break
out the big guns bringing Kelsey to talk about this
place and if we could run this sixty times a game,
I'd still be playing in the NFL. And listen, the
reason this works for the Eagles is they have a
(27:47):
dominant offensive line, but most importantly the quarterback. If the
quarterback was someone else, it would not be as effective.
So Jared GoF or Brock Purty or Josh Allen or
just go around the league Mayfield. The advantage is the
strength of Jalen. And like Vrabel was saying, like, what
stops us from doing this and that like defending the Eagles,
(28:10):
And I was like, yeah, I don't care. And some
of the the comments to come out, you know, Jeffrey Lewiy,
I guess gave like a long diatribe about the health
of this play and if you take this play out,
it'll actually make guys less safe, even for your teams.
And I guess dropped a line about a young child's
wet dream with how great this play is. And then
(28:33):
Troy Vincent, you know, went full ESPN was like, that's
offensive to the women in here. It's like, Troy, calm down, buddy.
Any person in this room offended by using the words
wet dream, Like, give me a break. This is this
multi billion dollar business. No one's offended by that classic
Jeffrey Loury line. But ultimately this place survives, and I
(28:56):
think we're a year away, if the Eagles dominate again
and they win. Like if the Eagles were winning six
to seven games, no one would care, this would not
be a talking point. But they've been to two of
the last three Super Bowls and they just beat the
shit out of the Chiefs, and if they do it again,
if they go back to back and beat the crap
at everybody, And this play is obviously a huge part
(29:16):
of their arsenal because when they get down to the
goal line, they are scoring a touchdown, When they get
in a short yarded situation, they are moving the chains.
It's basically automatic and it will go away, but as
of right now, they get to use it another year.
And listen, the Eagles are obviously going to be one
of the heavy favorites to win the Super Bowl and
(29:36):
be a dominant team and be a playoff team and
probably win the division. So it's this story is not
going to go away, but the Eagles and use it
utilizing Jason Kelcey, which Jed York tweeted about like I
owe the guy a beer. You know, listen, there are
certain guys that just can own a room and their passion,
their ability to connect and they're just likable, like a
(29:59):
certain human just resonate with other people because they are
just likable people. And Jason has always been one of
those guys, Like he could go into a room with anybody.
I mean, it's it's honestly the power of that individual.
That's why him and his brother created a podcast with
like two years later it's worth a hundred million dollars.
You could put Jason in a room, you know, it's
(30:19):
some dive bar in some blue collar town with a
bunch of dudes making thirty forty thousand dollars a year,
and he would get along with them perfectly. You can
put him in a room with a bunch of guys
that are worth ten and eleven figures and have teams
worth five to ten billion dollars, and they can have
normal conversations with them. It's just a skill that man possesses.
(30:41):
It's why you know, you typically the guys that communicate
in sports, whether it's a point guard, whether it's a
quarterback obviously the center, like, they usually can communicate well
with a lot of different people. And Kelsey's ability to
go in that room, like the Eagles aren't dumb, right,
a pretty smart organization. I don't think I mean, best
(31:01):
case scenario, it went as well as it did bringing
him in, because let's face it, like, and I don't
blame it. We're all selfish. I say it all the
time people in One thing I've talked to Maria a
lot about since we've been dating, is like, sometimes she
gets really caught up when you know things in business
don't go away. It's like, people are selfish. So when
you go into the mindset, not trying to fuck the
(31:22):
other person, but just realize, like at the end of
the day, they will make a decision with themselves, their
family first. That's never gonna change. And it's never really changed.
And I think the Eagles were selfish on this. They
don't want to lose the play. I don't blame them,
And I bet there were a lot of people in
the room who are kind of like whatever, like I
(31:45):
keep it great, like me, and bringing Jason Kelcey in clearly.
I think Florio reported on it. It swung several teams
like the Browns, the Lions, like it's a big deal.
I mean, twenty two to ten pretty cool. I mean,
you're just two votes away from this thing going bye bye.
So I do feel pretty confident though. If the Eagles
win again, honestly, they don't even need to win the
(32:05):
Super Bowl. If they just have a twelve or thirteen
win season and they're deep in the playoffs, this conversation
is not going to stop. And the Packers admitted, like
the NFL used them as a guinea pick. The Packers
did not care. Again, the Packers like most of us
like whatever, like, yeah, the play is kind of boring,
we know the outcome, but like it's their advantage. The
(32:26):
NFL utilized them to be at the forefront of like
get rid of this thing, and people within the Packers like, yeah,
it wasn't that big a deal to us, Like we
actually kind of respect it. So the NFL will do
that again next year, because if this play is the
conversation about it, you could argue has only gotten bigger.
So congrats to the Eagles fans. You got a pitch
(32:49):
that you can continue to use and it's very, very effective.
So I would expect Jalen Hurts and those guys to
get some extra touchdowns because of this play, because that's
what they all always due. The volume
Speaker 2 (33:07):
M hmm
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