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June 2, 2025 • 69 mins

John reacts to the trade between the Eagles and 49ers that saw Bryce Huff get sent from Philadelphia to San Francisco and gives his take on why the Eagles always seem okay to trade away impact players. Next, John talks about Joe Flacco's comments about how he is focused on helping the Browns win games and less concerned about being a mentor. Later, John dives into Jerry Jones always waiting to re-sign players, the latest on Stefon Diggs, and other sports news.

Lastly, John answers your questions in this episode's mailbag segment.

6:12 - Eagles-49ers trade

13:30 - Joe Flacco is not a mentor

26:23 - Jerry Jones not paying guys

29:19 - Diggs on his boat

33:02 - Other sports news

45:33 - Mailbag

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I'm like, you know what, let's fire up a little
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a bunch of podcasts. Probably do a golf podcast tomorrow.
Scotti Schuffer just one today again because like he wins
every week. But I did want to hit on this
trade between the Eagles and the Niners. I want to

(00:42):
hit on some comments that Flacco made that made some headlines.
A couple of you know, the digs controversy just didn't die.
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forty nine ers. I think a year ago this does

(04:19):
not happen. I think over the course of the last
couple of years, this probably doesn't happen. You know, the
Eagles trading with the team that they viewed as not
just an equal, but as a team that they would
have to go through in the playoffs. I think it's
a little bit easier to acknowledge an expensive mistake. I mean,
they paid Bryce Huff a lot of money. They kicked

(04:40):
Reddick to the curb, who ironically got traded to the
Jets to Phil Huff's spot and never showed at least
for a long time. And clearly Huff was not a
scheme fit for Vic Fangio and it didn't work out.
But guess what there is not probably many industries. I
guess it's like this in most businesses. If you screw
something up, but you're making so much money, who even

(05:00):
cares about this grew up? It's like an investor. It's
like when you read about these VC guys that just
throw a bunch of money into startups, all, if they
just hit on the one Google, the one Uber, the
one Facebook, all the millions of dollars they've wasted investing
in other companies, none of it matters because that return
on that And in sports, when you win a championship, no, honestly,

(05:21):
if you just win, you don't even need to win
the championship. If your team is just consistently good, people
overlook your mistakes. I've seen it with the forty nine ers.
I mean that they made one of the worst trades,
if not the worst trade in draft history, and no
one really cared because they landed brock Perty and they
just kept winning. And I think the Eagles like, how
we made a mistake, and guess what wins the Super Bowl.

(05:44):
No one gives a shit. And a couple months after,
in the offseason, he trades them to a team that
they've played in the NFC Championship before that was in
the NFC Championship and the Super Bowl the following year,
and it's like whatever. And I think it's much easier
for Howie to make this trade because one the forty
nine ers are interested because Robert Sala coached tough his

(06:04):
most successful year, double digit sack guy. And you know,
some of the rumors that I had heard when he
had gone to the Eagles was, you know, the front
office didn't quite view him as good as the coaching staff.
And sometimes that happens, and they weren't willing to pay
him huge money, even though I think he's a pretty
good fit scheme wise for SLA. Now we can argue,

(06:24):
and I think, listen, sometimes when you're an undrafted free
agent like you do get, there is some sort of
how good are you? Even once you produce right, and
when you're a first round pick, if you had double
digitus acts, I'm not only extending you, I have no
pri I don't even hesitate doing it. I'm like, I

(06:45):
can't overpay this guy is a big time player. But
when you're an undrafted free agent and like by your
third or fourth year you kind of come out of
nowhere and start making plays, it's like, how good is
this guy? Should we sell at the top of the market.
And I think that's what the Jets ultimately did, and
once they brought in Fangio, it just didn't work. And
if you're the forty nine ers, like you're somewhat desperate
for talent. I mean you're doing this totally rehabilitation of

(07:09):
like churning your roster from scratch, and you also have
some money to spend. You have some wiggle room. Plus
you don't even have to eat it all. Basically, I mean,
give or take splitting his seventeen million dollars salary with
the Eagles. I think the Eagles are eating like nine
of it and the Niners are like seven and a half. However,
the exact numbers play out, But go, we get a

(07:29):
guy that our defensive coordinator knows and along with Bosa,
along with our top twelve pick and Michael Williams can
be an impact player for us. And if you're the Eagles, like,
this isn't gonna work. He's not gonna be on this team.
We don't want to cut him and just totally eat
all this money. So can we find a suitor. He
does make a lot of money, and he's I would say,

(07:49):
somewhat of a one trick pony. And that's the thing
why when you hear this a lot like why is
this guy not a scheme fit? And there are a
lot of different positions that you know, depending on the team,
why it's gonna work or not gonna work. But it's
pretty hard to play for Vic Fangio as an edge
player if you're not gonna be a run stuffer and

(08:10):
teams I don't even I hate this term the wide
nine because I think it's such a hybrid defense, but
just in general, what the forty nine ers and a
team that has a true like four down lineman want
to do, especially with the forty nine ers over Sola
and then Demiko is get up the field and rush
the passer. Fanjo is not against rushing the passer, but

(08:34):
he's big on gap integrity and like, you can't just
run all over the place to make place. And I
think the forty nine Ers over the course of the
last five or six years just promote much more, just
like impact the quarterback. If we got to give up
some running lanes, hopefully Fred Warner will clean it up.
That's just not what Vic Fangio's into. So it's really

(08:54):
hard to play for him if you're gonna be a
one trick pony. Even if that one trick is like
pretty good, damn good rusher, it's just not really gonna work,
and it didn't work and no one cares, and it's
the best part about winning in sports, you can make these.
I don't want to call it a major mistake. It's
not that even that big a deal, but you can
make mistakes. Obviously, if the Eagles could have a do over,

(09:17):
they would do it over. There were much bigger mistakes
than his free agent class Kirk Cousins. Wilkins got injured.
It wasn't the Raiders fault, but obviously once the guy's
injured and who knows if he's ever gonna be the same,
you would like a doover. But Cousins is the best example.
Gave him ninety million dollars essentially, and by the end
of year one he can't even be the starter. And

(09:38):
now he's it's hard to trade him because he's got
a no trade clause and just becomes, you know, very phishy,
like most contracts in the NFL, and we saw this
this year as well, when the Rams traded an offensive
lineman to the Bears. It's like, you just you're kind
of year to year. I mean, most of these contracts
are not Miles Garrett, nick Bosa, Justin Jefferson, let alone

(09:59):
the quarterback contracts where you're kind of on scholarship. Worst
case scenario for like three years. It's pretty unprecedented what
the Broncos did with Russell Wilson. It's like, we can't
stand this guy so much. We think he's so bad,
not just on the field, but just for the aura
of our organization. We got to get this guy out
of here. I don't care how much money we're gonna eat.

(10:23):
I don't even care if we don't have a solution.
Get this guy out of my building. That's pretty rare.
I mean, it takes kind of a crazy sob like
Sean Payton to really have that level of I don't know,
belief that he can fix the problem. And what's crazy,
he fixed the problem kind of immediately. But like most
of these contracts, these fifty million dollars quote unquote contracts,

(10:44):
it's usually like fifteen, twenty, twenty five million dollars guaranteed,
and if the guy doesn't have a catastrophic injury, you
usually can move him. Especially. The one thing with the
NFL too, more than the other sports, is the coaching
movement around the league is so far asked. I mean,
it happens at such a rapid speed that a guy's
one place one year, then all of a sudden he's

(11:05):
a coordinator at the place to another year. Right, It's like,
look at the head coaches two years ago, guys like
Dennis Allen, Arthur Smith, Robert Slow. They're just guys that
come up the top of my head, and now they're
all coordinators at different places. So you usually can pawn
some guys off if they've had experience or at least
pressure that organization, if that coach likes the guy. And

(11:26):
that's exactly what happened here. Joe Flackel made some comments
I probably could play them, but the gist of it
essentially was like I'm not here to mentor guys. Because
he was asked, like, do you view yourself as a mentor,
and he gave a really really good answer. I thought,
right like, he's like, I could go either way, right,
I could. I could come out and say I'm gonna

(11:47):
be a great mentor, and then you guys can crush me.
I'm not focused enough on on winning. I could say
I'm not gonna be a great mentor, and you guys
could look at me like I'm an asshole, And the
reality is I'm here to try to win games. And
in fairness to Joe Flacco, Joe Flacco knows this. Kevin
Stefanski knows this because he surely told him when Joe

(12:08):
Flacco's came there and signed. The entire team knows this
because a couple of years ago, Joe Flacco led them
to the playoffs. And I don't know how long it's
gonna go on. I don't know if their team's gonna
be that good. But when it comes to week one,
if he's healthy, Joe Flacco is gonna be the starter.
Like I saw Colin go on this thing that Shador
should be the starter right now, Like, yeah, listen, I'm

(12:30):
for an entertainment standpoint and content standpoint. I'm all for it.
This is not gonna happen. Joe Flacco is the starting
quarterback for the Cleveland Browns week one. You can put
that thing in fucking sharpie. And if I'm signed to
be the starter, my job is not to mentor the guy.
My job, especially in the off season and in August
training camp and going into week one, is to try

(12:50):
to help my team win. Now, if Joe Flacco had
said this as the backup quarterback for Josh Allen or
that's a bad exac because he's been in the league
for a while. Let's say the Bears had signed him
to back up Caleb Williams or the Patriots had signed
him to back up Drake May and he had said
this and it was clear, like Joe, you're not the starter.
I would have been like, that's the wrong signing for

(13:12):
that team. Because when the Kansey Chiefs signed Chad Henny
the year they got rid of Alex Smith for Patrick Mahomes,
the reason they signed Chad Henny obviously had a bunch
of experience, he was married and mature. But was this
to help Patrick Mahomes to be like an older voice
in the room on how to prepare and be a

(13:32):
pro aka be a mentor. That was his role. That
is not Joe Flacco's role. On June first, twenty twenty five.
His job is to be the starting quarterback for the
Cleveland Browns. So I've seen a million different thoughts and
people with different takes on this, Like, guy, it's not
that complicated. He's the starting quarterback. We all know that's
going to play out. Now if by week seven and

(13:55):
they are two and five and he gets benched and
Dylan Gabriel of Shadoor is thrown in the mix. Then yeah,
his job then pivots to help that guy out, which
he has surely done before. But like, you can only
do so much, you really can't. Like look at last year,
I would imagine he tried to help Anthony Richardson out.

(14:17):
But there's a chance to some of these young guys
because this is the nature of you know, a young
I don't want to say no it all, but I
think young successful people probably think they know more than
they actually do. They're probably not asking him unlimited questions.
And the other thing he alluded to, like ideally, I
hope our relationship's good, Like that's just the organic nature

(14:39):
of being a good teammate and being around each other
and being like minded people. But there's no guarantee. It's like, yeah,
welcome to life. You can work with people if you
don't have the same values and morals and kind of standards.
If one guy's lazy and you don't buy into it,
or that guy, if you're lazy and the guy that's
a grinder, you're not gonna get along. It's not gonna happen,

(15:03):
it's not gonna go. Well, we have all been in
different scenarios in our professional life. Once you get to
a certain age. If you've worked in the workforce, I
would say for over a decade you have worked with
someone you do not like. I think that's borderline impossible. Now,
depending on your personality, that number could be higher or lower,

(15:23):
but we have all worked with people. Again, not a
boss that kind of rubs you the wrong way or
pisses you off. I'm saying someone you legitimately can't stand,
someone you view as like a piece of shit, low character, loser,
and that happens. I'm sure in every locker room there
are a couple people that can't stand each other. And
you hope that's not the case, and you definitely hope

(15:43):
it's not in the quarterback room. But it is not
Joe Flacco's job to hold. You know, everyone's gonna say Shador.
And here's the thing with Shador. The coaching staff in
the GM drafted Dylan Gabriel first, so we can all
want Shador to play. From an entertain standpoint, who do
you think Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Berry are gonna put

(16:04):
out first? Because they do control a lot of this.
I've said forever. The moment you get drafted a GM
and a front office can like the player, but they
don't control the practice script. They don't control who goes
in win at practice. Now, obviously some gms have more
juice than others, but the coach has the majority of
the poll, especially once a practice starts, he can do

(16:26):
whatever he wants to do. So it's gonna be on
those two guys who are gonna be taking reps with backups,
and who knows, maybe because Flacco is old and has
so much experience that they just don't even give him
that many reps. I have a hard time seeing that
in training camp, at least, because you do need to

(16:47):
have everyone on your team at least think that you
have the belief that winning is possible. Right, You can
flip the script pretty easily once you've lost a couple games.
But in training camp, what's the point of grinding if
we're just gonna mail in season. It's white tanking doesn't
exist in the NFL because no one has that mentality.
No one just fucking mails it in. Now, maybe they

(17:07):
do some sort of you know, like they did last
year with Drake May and Jacoby Brissette. Jacoby was gonna
start Week one, but in training camp they were splitting
the reps unlike most teams would normally do. And maybe
they do that with the young players in Gabriel and
Shador when it comes to training camp reps with Joe Flacco,
because you go, he doesn't need as many reps. But

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You know, I've theorized that the Jerry Jones. You know
a lot of teams argue with players over contracts. What's
funny about the NFL is I've used. I've said this
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fifty to fifty revenue partnership, Yet the only one guaranteed

(20:44):
to not have to fight over any of the revenue
are the owner and the team side, like they're guaranteed
they're split. Yet the players are guaranteed their money. They
just all have to fight for it. It's like they're
fishing the sea, all fighting for the food. And a
lot of team teams make it very very difficult. I mean,
I've had a lot of experience being around the Niners.

(21:04):
It's hard to negotiate with them if you're going for
premium bucks. At least it has been historically. They you know,
the numbers have gotten so big they've had to kind
of take it on the chin a little bit. But
most teams, like You're it's not easy to deal with
Howie or some of these guys like it's it's a challenge, right,
That's why you pay your agents to negotiate for you.
But deals get done for whatever reason. With the Cowboys,

(21:29):
it's like everyone knew they were going to sign Dak
last year. Everyone knew they were going to sign Ceedee
Lamb last year. Like everyone knows at this point time
they're gonna sign Michael Parsons, but we all know they're
probably gonna sign them toward the end of training camp.
And I theorized last year, it's like, maybe Jerry just
likes keeping this cash because you have to give huge
signing bonuses in these type contracts. Maybe he just wants
to wait to the last possible second to take his

(21:51):
money out of wherever he has invested. I'm sure the markets,
because it has to be some sort of tangible asset
that he could get access to quick quickly before he
pays these guys, because otherwise it makes no sense. Like
what's the point in going back and forth with Michah
Parsons right now? Like obviously his number is somewhat established
based on you know, Miles Garrett and Nick Bosa a

(22:13):
couple of years ago, like based on the inflation year
by year, and like, you have a pretty good idea,
wouldn't you want, especially a first time head coach who
most people thinks a little over his head, to just
have the easiest runway possible. And if I was a
betting man as we sit here on June first, I
would be pretty stunned if Micah Parsons contract is signed,

(22:38):
I mean at earliest, like August twentyth, twenty fifth range.
I think if he is signed over the off season.
When I say offseason means summer break, before you report
for training camp, or even those first couple of weeks
or first couple of days of training camp before you
get on the field with pads, I think would be

(22:58):
really shocking based on the way they new business. And
at this point in time, if you're a Cowboy fan,
if you just follow the league, like you've kind of
seen a pattern with Jerry Jones, like this is the
way he does business. He wastes to the last possible second,
and then he doesn't go cheap, like he gives you
the most money possible, but he just wastes till basically
the last week right before the season. And last but
not least, the dig story. I think a huge part

(23:21):
of the reason this story is so big one, I
mean that everyone felt like they had to talk about
there's not much going on right it's late May. They're
practicing in shorts and T shirts. It's a pretty boring
time in the NFL. And obviously, the combination of this
player's pretty polarizing CARDI b the drugs, perfect storm. But

(23:45):
I also think part of what made last week so
weird is and anyone knows this, listen, Like, I work
with a lot of people and we're all in different spots,
and sometimes it's hard to communicate right because you can't
just be like, hey, let's meet in the conference room
and talk it out right, hey, or just walk into
the guy's office knock knock, and have a conversation with him.

(24:05):
It makes communication really hard. It makes you communicate, be
over the top on communication if you want to have,
you know, a good working relationship and make everyone being
on the same page. And it really forces you to
over communicate. And any of you that work from home
right now is like does my boss even like me?
It's like does the guy I'm working with even know

(24:26):
what they're doing? You have those questions because you're not
able to have a normal in person relationship with them.
And I think sometimes when a situation like this happens,
he's just nowhere to be found. OTA's is going on
and he's just not there. Which if this was during
the season, even if it had been on like a
Monday or Tuesday of the week and he had been out,

(24:47):
you know where they get the clans for the clam
chowder up in Boston. He would have answered to it
on Wednesday or Thursday. He would have talked, and the
story probably would have died. He either would have been
cut because they would have been anti him doing the
twosies or whatever the fuck it's called, or they would
have been like, listen, let's make better decisions. Watch out
when cameras are around and we're onward and upward, and

(25:09):
stories like this grow during this time of year because
like he's nowhere to be found and he doesn't get
to answer for himself. It's not he didn't, but not
that I saw a post anything about like, hey it
wasn't even mine, or hey it wasn't actually what you thought,
even if it's a lie, like you just have some
sort of rebuttal. And I think it's a good example
of like when you start moving around bouncing around teams,

(25:34):
the equity that team. Because Scott Zolak, who's associated with
the Patriots and you know, been their color guy on
radio forever and has a massive radio show in Boston,
I think gave a comment I think it was on
the on his radio show that like cutting him is
on the table. And whenever you leave a team, like
whoever the team and the GM and the coach that
drafted you that or signed you as an undrafted free

(25:57):
agent that you made, the team that you played along with,
you get to build up equity. You get to know
that person. Right. Why do you usually your most supportive
person in life as you're growing up? Are your parents? Right?
They spend the most time around you. So it's like,
why do coaches in front office people like the people
they drafted and have been playing with for years because

(26:18):
they have a long relationship, the good and the bad
with that human being and the moment you start bouncing
around And that's what Diggs is in this portion of
his career where he's just kind of this mercenary. It's
like your margin for error and your leash is really
really small. And listen, I think it's kind of funny,

(26:39):
but who knows. If you told me they cut him
because it was like, we don't want to talk about
this shit anymore. If you tell me that he next
week at OTA's, he's there and he gives a statement
or talks about it with the press, could believe that
as well. But things get weird when you start bouncing around.
They just don't know you that well, especially when something
like this happens. You're not even anywhere to be found.

(27:00):
A couple other sports things I want to hit out
before we get out of here. The NBA Finals is set.
Shows you what a moron I am. I bet a
decent amount of money on the Minnesota Timberwolves to beat
the Thunder and not only did they not win that series,
obviously they got their ass kicked well. That team they
played is currently a minus seven to fifty favorite in

(27:24):
the NBA Finals. Now googled, I couldn't quite find it.
I would imagine some of the Kadie Warriors teams were
huge favorites. Obviously, gambling has changed dramatically over the last
couple of years five six years with DraftKings and Van
Duel and how easy it is to see all these lines.
But you basically, for those of you like gambling, novices

(27:46):
would have to bet seven hundred and fifty dollars to
win a dollar. To put this into perspective, the NHL
the Stanley Cup Finals is a rematch between the Oilers,
who kicking myself as well dollars in my account after
some wins a couple of months ago, and I was like,
you know what, I'm not the biggest NHL guy, but
let's let's put a couple five hundred dollars bets on

(28:08):
a couple of teams to win the UH win the
Stanley Cup Finals. And the two teams that were really
jumping out to me were the Washington I wanted a
team in each conference. I was like, the Washington Capitals
and the Edmonton Oilers, and then for whatever reason, I
put it all in the Capitals, who obviously got their
ass kicked by Carolina. But my point is that in
that series, it's a coin flip. I checked it yesterday
and it was both teams were minus one ten. Usually

(28:31):
in the in the NBA finals, the you know, the
World Series, whatever, even if one team's favorite, like the
super Bowl, you get like Eagles favored by two points. Right,
this is pretty crazy. I mean it really is, especially
for a team that's never really accomplished anything. Right, It's
not like they've they've they're the defending champs. It's not

(28:52):
like they got a bunch of guys that have won,
you know, a shitload in their career. I mean, obviously
they got the MVP on their team. But that's pretty
Now you can get the Indiana Pacers who just beat
the crap out of the Calves in the second round,
who were the one seed, and then for the most part,
I thought handled the Knicks. If the series one hundred percent,

(29:13):
I'd say they took it to the Knicks at least
seventy five percent of the time. I mean they're good,
and they are I mean a portal line like historic underdog.
And it's not like there's some major injury maybe one thing.
It's like, oh, their best player broke his foot. It's
pretty crazy. And the gambler in me it's like, should
I dabble on the Pacers? But I'm just I'm out
after that Minnesota she lacking, I'm out. The other thing

(29:35):
is we have been going on this tour and I
love inside the NBA. I've been watching it my whole life.
No one makes me laugh like when Charles makes Shack laugh.
When that combination of Charles saying something about fat women
in San Antonio eating the cheiros, about how some dude

(29:56):
in Asaana gave him a bracelet that he was wearing
and they were both na and Shack just starts pissing
his pants, laughing across the desk. That to me, when
it comes to sports, is like as funny as it gets.
It's just so natural how much he makes Shack laugh.
But there have been like this. Who was the last

(30:17):
It was a Jeter? Remember when Jeter was retiring, and
everywhere he'd go they'd give him, like, they'd give him
something cool, like you go here, he gets like a
personalized barbecue. He goes here, he gets like a personalized
you know, a Chevy truck. Every every teams had something
special for him. It's kind of what it's felt this
year with TNT. But it's like T and T is
going away, but the actual show, I guess, is not

(30:39):
going away. We'll just be on ESPN, which I don't
really think is gonna work. You know, one part of
what makes the show so special is how little these guys,
I mean, seriously, how little they give a fuck about anything.
Now they're not they haven't been able to swear because

(30:59):
you know, cable rules. But I would say, you know,
McAfee kind of gets a lot of credit for how
little he buys in to like the ESPN world, and
he just does his own thing. These guys were the
original that way, like they are in a corporate world,
yet they operate like they're the NBA's version of like barstool,

(31:22):
and I just don't quite know how it's gonna work.
It's one thing to like all these people on ESPN
that feel like especially some of these anchors, that feel
like they get offended by everything, and Barkley starts talking
about fat women. I mean, it's gonna be fascinating because
Charles obviously shack. They're too rich, too well established to
ever change that. There is absolutely no changing between those guys.

(31:47):
And I also think this, Sometimes things are meant to end, right,
Most great television shows come to an end. It sucks,
but it ends. And I think sometimes, you know, and
if we use the television show as an example, when
a show goes a season or two too long, it's like, yeah,
didn't quite work. I remember the show with Kevin Spacey.

(32:09):
I would say one of the uh, what was it called?
The first big Netflix show House of Cards is the
reason that I originally signed up for Netflix, and it's
I remember watching it thinking, this is like one of
the most remarkable, just entertaining shows I've ever seen in
my entire life. And like most people, if that was

(32:31):
the show that got you signed up for Netflix, I've
been hooked ever since. But by the end, he had,
you know, was going through everything, got in trouble and
was like kicked out of Hollywood or whatever. I think
he's kind of back now. I don't know. I haven't
really followed that story, but he was just off the show.
It's like, yeah, guys, this show doesn't really work without him,
Like this is like we just got to end this thing,

(32:51):
and like if Ernie's not gonna leave however, this I
just think they probably should have ended it now. I
totally understand Barkley and these guys only want to work
if this is the show and they're getting paid so
much money. But I just don't think it's gonna work.
I think culturally it was pretty special because of the
rules that they didn't have to follow, and we see

(33:12):
how often, you know, people at Disney get offended and
statements have to be made and apolog like it's just
I just I don't think it's gonna work. That's my
first reaction. I think you can't create something that special,
slash organic and then try to replicate it somewhere else,

(33:33):
even if it's in the same studio, even if with
the same people, it's just not going to be the same.
And I think the right move and listen, these guys
have no problem with anyone wanting to make more money,
but I think for the health of what it represented
and how awesome it was, like universally, like no one

(33:53):
watched that show over the years and didn't multiple times
like pisch your pants laughing. I just I would probably
bet against this working. Other than that, I saw the
Colorado Rockies Jeff Pisson tweeted that they're nine and fifty
nine and fifty thing with baseball and this is you know, Luckily,

(34:15):
with basketball, most teams could pay for players, they just
choose to tank. Even though I hate tanking and whatever
represents I do understand like the only way for the
Utah Jazz to get good is to get to be
drafting high in land sweet players. But in baseball, some
of these owners like, we're just not gonna spend. We'll
just refuse to spend, and then they just suck. It's
like this product is just terrible. I don't necessarily know

(34:37):
how to fix it. But nine and fifty's that's to
put that in perspective. Now the division's good. I look
the Diamondbacks have are in third place in that division,
or excuse me, in fourth place in that division. So
just the next team above them has twenty seven wins,
they have nine.

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Mailbag time at John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff. Fire in
those dms, get your questions answered here on the podcast.
We will start with TJ question for the mail bag,
since it's a fugazi, is the biggest fugazi in all sports?
College football preseason rankings. I actually think this is no

(35:55):
longer really a fugazi. I think it used to be
like Texas used to always be up there, even when
they sucked for a long time. They're kind of the
same cast of characters. Obviously Alabama and Ohio State, but
there would be like four or five of these teams.
It's like, guys, Texas hasn't won like a decade Florida.
How are you putting them like eleventh that they're going

(36:16):
to go seven to five. I think in this nil era,
we have a pretty good idea. I mean, let's look
at last year. You know, ole Miss is a good example.
A lot of people thought ole Miss could be a
sleeper for the national championship. Now they ended up not
making the playoffs. They still went ten to three because
their teams just too good. They're spending too much money.

(36:36):
So when you see some of these teams last year,
a lot of people like SMU, SMU, SMU. It's like
they're spending a lot of money. Guys, I think you know,
I I guess Texas Tech is spending Someone sent me
something that said they spent fifty million dollars. Now I
saw the the ad of Texas who pushed back against

(36:58):
Ohio State, who wanted to I mean, Texas Ohio State
is week one. That's a pretty good game. And Ohio
State wanted to move the game to Sunday night, and
Texas like, we're not moving that game for Sunday night.
Like put us on a short week and everyone's like, well,
you're playing San Jose State the next week. It's like, guys,
that's not really their problem. Like you could put this
game on Saturday night if you want, even though I

(37:19):
think they're not allowed to do it. But the point is,
I think we got a pretty good idea. I think
there are only a couple of wild cards. But like
with nil, we know for a fact, Oregon's gonna be sweet,
Ohio State's gonna be sweet, Texas is gonna be sweet.
I mean, Georgia's is proving it over and over. We
know Notre Dame's good. We know Penn State's good. I

(37:41):
kind of view it now, there's gonna be a team,
you know, like Arizona State last year, that's gonna come
out of nowhere on a given year. You know. Boise
State was kind of a pick last year, like most
people thought they were gonna be that one individual team
that stole the at large bid for the Non Power Conferences.
I don't think people ask me all the time, like

(38:02):
the US opens coming up in two weeks for golf,
Like who's your sleeper? There are no sleepers anymore. I
would never bet a sleeper anymore. Bet Scotty Scheffer. And
if you want a sleeper, bet Bryson d. Chambeau to
top five or top ten. John Rahm maybe to top
five or top ten. I wouldn't mess with unless you
want to take like Tommy Fleetwood to top twenty. No

(38:23):
sleepers are winning these tournaments anymore. No, there's no sleeper
going to the national championship anymore. It's not gonna happen.
Look at the way the Final Four played out last year.
In college basketball, it's just the elites. I mean, it
really is love the show. I love that what if question?
Someone said in the other day and you talked about

(38:44):
Terrell Davis. There are so many angles you can go
with the question, whether it's injuries, what coach lands where,
who drafts who. I think you could do something like
that weekly just kind of get us by until the
season starts. Just thought, if you consider it, would love
to hear your what if willis gayhe doesn't have the
horrible injury in the Natty still had a hell of

(39:04):
a ten year career with over eight thousand yards, I
think that that's a pretty good one. I think, what's
his name, Jalen Smith, who was viewed like, I don't know,
better than like Roquan Smith coming out of college and
Rokwan went where like seventh or eighth in the draft
or Luke Keikley. I think Rokwan or I mean Jalen

(39:26):
Smith had a Notre Dame, was going to be a
pretty special player, and had the devastating knee injury. So
I think any guy that has a devastating knee injury.
Marcus Lattimore, if you remember at South Carolina, had a
horrific knee injury. The forty nine ers drafted him. I
remember being a training camp and just seeing like this
guy can't move, which is sad. Willis mcgahee's the best

(39:48):
case you come back and you have a long career.
I think one guy, and again some of these like
I was so young, I was in like high school
when Willis mcgahey was in college, but I remember by
the time Ricky Williams kind of got a shit together
and just was trying and with Dave Wanstead in Miami,
he was like, this guy's a monster. Can you imagine
how good Ricky Williams would have been if he just

(40:10):
would have gone to probably a less chaotic place than
where he went with the Saints and they traded the
draft and then the weed stuff and he left. One
if they just would allowed him to smoke weed, and
two if he just would have gone to a better
organization than the Saints. When Didka traded the whole draft
for him? I definitely think that's one of them. Is
because Ricky Williams was a fucking monster for the bag.

(40:32):
I'm in my mid twenties, firefighter from up North. Seems
like all my friends and family are finding their special
someone and I'm patiently waiting as someone who's just got married.
How did you manage during your years of dating and
waiting for your wife? Also loved the side stories of
Saquon and Scorpion. I would say, you just do that,

(40:53):
You just date, you know. I think the mister and
missus right, You never know. I mean, there's a lot
of stuff in you life that you do not control.
When you meet people. Is definitely one of those when
you're talking about a significant other, unless you're marrying your
high school sweetheart or someone you met in college. But
once you get to the workforce. You know, the one
thing with high school in college is like you're around

(41:14):
a lot of women. Right once you become a firefighter,
like you're just kind of around the other firefighters. So
unless you're gonna marry another firefighter, you're probably gonna have
to date, either going out or internet dating, which is
not easy, or have friends introduce you. But for me,
I just focused. I just dated, had a good time,

(41:37):
and worked, and I just threw everything I had into work.
And I just again, I'm lucky one, and I have
a lot of deficiencies probably insecurities and different things in
my life. But I did never compare myself like I
never had fomo. Was I late to the party. I
just was pretty kind of tunnel vision and just doing

(41:58):
my own, living my own life, and knew people that
were having kids. How my brother has two kids. So
and then got married in twenty eighteen. It's like, you
just you don't want to get married just to get married,
like that ain't gonna work. Uh, there's a reason fifty
percent of these things fail. So I would say a

(42:18):
lot of I'm sure people you know that are married
aren't happy so you can't always be jealous or worry.
You just you gotta really work on. It's way easier
said than done, especially in the world we live in.
It's just not comparing yourself to others that the faster.
You cannot do that as much like this isn't football,
We're not in a draft, Well is this guy stack

(42:39):
up to this guy?

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Like?

Speaker 1 (42:40):
This is your life and there are always going to
be people doing things that you're not that you want
to do, and you just got to focus on how
do you accomplish those things now. Obviously when it comes
to a wife, you definitely can change your mindset. Like
I wasn't ready to get married in my twenties and
even through most of my thirties. Like I it wasn't
something that I was. It might have been the people

(43:01):
I was meeting, but I didn't bother me that I didn't.
You know, the girl I was dating, I kind of knew,
Like I'm marrying this girl. He's got to let life
sometimes it's out of your control. Pray. My question is
this diard Allons fan. I feel like there are not
many weaknesses roster wise, and theoretically should be ready to
compete for Super Bowl, regardless of losing both coordinators. I

(43:24):
do have true belief in Campbell. I want to have
equal faith in golf that he is an elite quarterback
to win it all. But when the biggest games occur
in the playoffs, I feel like he crumbles. Now. I
feel like the Lions are the right quarterback away from
winning a Super Bowl after losing Stafford. But at the
same time, we couldn't have gained the assets from the
quarterback trade. Do you think God is good enough to

(43:44):
get it done? I do. I think if you're healthy
in the Dome, you have a shot. I think if
you got to go on the road outdoors to Philly
to Washington, that's going to be pretty hard. I do
think he could win in LA I think he could
win San Francisco. I think it would just be difficult
to see golf now. Your team can win, that's the

(44:04):
other thing. Like you can if you're playing at Green
Bay in the second round. Let's say they win the
division and you're the five seed and you play them
in the second round and it's zero degrees and it's
hard to pass. It's like, well, play defense and run
the ball. I mean the forty nine ers beat the
Packers one year against Aaron Rodgers. I think the final
score is thirteen to ten. So like you're gonna have

(44:27):
to win with a quarterback like him sometimes when he
doesn't do that much, which is fine, but I think
the scary part with him just like a lot. I mean,
it's no different with perty outside. And this is where
Stafford has an advantage. Is like Stafford, we saw him
last year in that snow game against Eagles. He was unfaced.
I mean he was throwing dots and it's like there

(44:49):
are certain players that you just do not trust in
outdoor cold conditions. I've seen him with the forty nine
ers from Jimmy Garoppolo to Purdy just not gonna beat.
But so I no problem going on Dome, go play
Minnesota or the Lions in a dome in December January.
It's like, Okay, playing outdoors is hard, you know Jalen
if it's not really working, he can run around. That's

(45:11):
what makes the top guys so special. Like do you
like Patrick Mahomes could play in Alaska or he could
play in Miami, it wouldn't matter. Most quarterbacks are not that.
I do think Jared Gobb is good enough to win
Super Bowl. I feel as if Green Bay has found
the blueprint to always have an elite quarterback. First, find

(45:32):
your first elgue guy easier said than done, admittingly, then
have him lead the franchise until his mid thirties. Then
draft his replacement. The young kid sits for two years
and then he takes over. My question is why isn't
the rest of the NFL doing the same. The Saints
let Breeze go until the wheels fell off, Same with
the Chargers and Rivers, the Giants and Eli. Not saying

(45:54):
Love is going to be the Hall of Famer, but
he puts Green Bay in a better position than a
lot of quarterbacks. Well, if you look at the Saints,
they were really interested in Patrick Mahomes. I think their
plan was to draft Patrick Mahomes and Veitch and the
Chiefs found out and they made sure they didn't. So

(46:15):
if Patrick Mahomes is drafted to the Saints, does that
look a lot different today? And do the Chiefs look
a lot different today? So part of you know your example,
like you said, getting far, getting whoever, Josh Allen, Mahomes, Brady,
you name it, then you need the guy a year

(46:35):
or two in right when he's thirty three to thirty
five range to be at the right spot to draft.
Look at Aaron Rodgers and Jordan Love. They were both
picked in the middle of the late twenties, so like
Aaron Rodgers could have gone one. I mean, there's a
huge element of luck there. Jordan Love. They deserve credit

(46:57):
because he was I don't even want to say falling,
but he was. They targeted him and they traded up
to get him. Now they've also admitted, like if Brandon
Ayuke hadn't gone to the Niners, they probably would have
drafted Brandon and Ayuk. So I think the drafts a
little bit of a crap shoot that way. And I
think it's like, Okay, we didn't have a guy in
the first round we wanted because typically in that situation
you're gonna be drafting in the twenties. Well, then I'm

(47:21):
not drafting again into the late second round, and you know,
nowadays who's even there. What you're saying is right, that
is the right strategy to do. I mean, the Patriots
tried it. The problem is Brady just like wooden Age
and Bill's like, I just gotta trade Jimmy because I
can't get rid of Brady. I mean the crazy part

(47:42):
is Bill takes a bunch of shit for like letting
Brady go. He was forty fucking two. I mean, it'd
been one thing. It's like, you know, he just he
let Tom Brady go at thirty six. I would say
that was pretty nut. He let him go at forty two.
In the history of sports, if you let a guy
go at forty two, you're basically write every single time
except Tom Brady, any sport, anytime except Tom Brady. He

(48:08):
tried and that was a late second round pick for
the bag. Huge fan of football takes. But I have
a different question for you. I work for a large
corporation and they recently announced they're eliminating an entire department
hundreds of jobs in favor of using third party automated vendors.

(48:29):
We all know it's AI, they just won't admit it.
With that in mind, my question is, how do you
see the use of AI affecting the workforce over the
next decade, and what if anything should be done. I'm
pro making money as you are. You don't have to
pay AI a yearly salary match it's four oh one
K and you certainly don't have to pay its health insurance,

(48:52):
so I get the business decisions behind this. However, if
we have millions or tens of millions of jobs replaced
over the next decade or so, what do you think
those people will lose their job should do. I don't
think it's realistic to expect people to have the skills
and experience and office setting to all become electricians, plumbers
or mechanics. How do they survive? Well, they definitely do not.

(49:16):
I think anytime we're in these scenarios, I do think
it's very easy because doom and gloom and craziness cells. Now.
I don't pretend you know you're in a situation in
my job, I don't feel it on a daily basis.
In terms of my use of it. Now, from an
investing standpoint, I've invested a pretty heavy allocation into Serve

(49:40):
Robotics serv No financial advice here, but it's a pretty
large holding I have right now, and they're basically just
Uber's an investor. It's like this robotic company that's going
to build robotics to do things right, from delivering food
to building different things. It's clearly coming. I mean, the
power of AI just using it to look up questions

(50:01):
is pretty incredible and depending on what you do. I
see Maria for real Estate using Chad GPT all the time.
I'm not smart enough to know what everything's gonna look
like in five years. I saw Gary Vee, who you
know is not afraid to make some proclamations. He's like,

(50:21):
he's like the tech version of like Coward or steven A,
like you'll come with a strong opinion. He thought that
like kids in twenty thirty years will marry robots. I'm like,
they're gonna be banging robots. I could see a robot
that can like cook you dinner and can clean up
and can do a lot of things. But like you're
legitimately they're gonna be your significant other. But I'm also

(50:43):
not naive enough to think like that's impossible one day,
so I don't. I don't pretend to have the answer.
I listen to enough podcast and watch enough TV with
enough smart people that I don't think they're just following
the trend line of like, yeah, this is really gonna
be something. I think is clear. People in different worlds,
especially yours, uh see the power of it. I mean, hell,

(51:05):
you just walk into like a McDonald's. There are there
aren't even humans. I mean, how far away are we
from a McDonald's or Taco Bell having a building and
they're not being a human being inside and it being
one hundred percent you know, from making the food to ordering. Honestly,
some of these probably exist. I'm always shocked when you

(51:25):
walk into like a CVS or some of these and
there's a person standing there at the front and they
don't check you out, they're just self checkouts, and she's
just kind of there staring at you. It's like, what
are they paying you to do? I guess if it
goes down, but like sometimes it's like an old lady,
they're not fixing it. So is it gonna be like
millions of people just on the sideline. If that's the case,

(51:47):
we'd have a problem. And that's where some people have
been saying forever, like we're gonna headed toward universal basic
income because they're gonna be jobs and there's not gonna
be jobs for these people. But I mean, one thing,
I heard something the other day that of these college graduates,
like where are they going right now? It's not a
lot of openings because like, why would I hire a guy.
You know, when I was coming out of college, it

(52:08):
was like a starting salary you had a college degree
in like a business type job. Let's just say, like
sixty thousand dollars. That was, you know, two thousand and
eight seven, I mean almost twenty years ago. So maybe
that number is now depending on the city, New York,
San Francisco, anywhere from like seventy five to one hundred grand,
I mean depending. Obviously these numbers change, but like do

(52:31):
they even need that person anymore? But that's the scary part.
Where do these people go? Now we have a whole
other conversation. I was thinking this the other day. I
was like, I got two college degrees and they're completely useless. Now.
I wouldn't have been able to get my job at
Fresno State without my degree at cal Paulyy. But that
degree at cal Polyly was one hundred percent useless the

(52:51):
last twenty years of my life, so absolutely had zero
impact on me in terms of utilizing anything I learned
in a class, not one thing. It's kind of crazy yet,
like your percentage of earning power as a college graduate
is so much higher than a non college graduate. Even
though I think that paper is completely worthless in terms
of the actual substance behind it. Now, the actual result,

(53:14):
I guess is clearly speaks for itself. So it's a
long went away like I don't really know interested to
see as much as you. Hopefully it don't come out
with Fire Football podcast or I'd be fucked. Ben Johnson
definitely gives off some weird vibes, and yes, Bears fans
are almost as bad as Dallas fans. Since Jade and
Daniels ripped their heart out, they've been insufferable. Anyway, We're

(53:36):
about the same age. Who's your all time running back?
I never saw Jim Brown and just miss the juice.
Barry Sanders to me is by far and away the
best I've seen in a tyrrell by himself. What say you,
I would say Barry Sanders number one. I would say
that the best running back I've ever seen live. I've

(53:58):
seen Adrian Peterson have a couple seen him play probably
five or six times live. I've seen him have some
monster games. I saw him in the peak of his powers,
in the prime of his career. That fucking guy was
like Secretariat. Now he was a flawed player for being
this massive. You know, obviously I can't speak to Jim Brown.

(54:18):
I think the juice was clearly pretty talented. I would
say Walter Payton. I think if Belichick was sitting here,
he would say Jim Brown, Walter Payton would be up there.
Adrian Peterson, just as a pure runner, was a pretty
dominant individual. Now not a great pass catcher and awful
pass blocker. I would say the two most versatile guys

(54:38):
I've ever saw were Marshall Falk and Ladanian Thomlinson. They
were just I mean, they would have been so good
in twenty twenty five playing in the in the spread era.
I mean, oh my god, So I would go. I'd
go Barry Sanders with Walter Payton. Love listening to Three
and Out every day. I had a question how easy
the Cardinals schedule is this year? With how easy it is,

(55:00):
do you think they underperform again? They will look to
move off Kyler with the upcoming quarterback last I would
say if they have an underwhelming season that Kyler's job
would be in jeopardy. Yes, because how long are Jonathan
Gannon and the GM going to tie themselves to Kyler
Murray guy they didn't draft or sign. Now, the problem is,
I think it's hard to move off guys like Kyler
because they're just good enough to tease you, but not

(55:22):
bad enough for you to suck. Like if Kyler is
healthy in play seventeen games, I would say their floor
is probably seven and ten, and you know their ceilings
probably ten. So what do you do if you're eight
nine or nine and eight and he missed the playoffs,
which would be kind of my guess of what happens
to them. Though they spend some money this offseason, I
mean they do got good players. They drafted Marvin Harrison high.

(55:45):
I saw a video of him. It's hard to I
never know if this stuff's AI anymore. Marvin Harrison right
now looks like Terrell Owens. He has yacked you know
McBride's stud They signed Sweat. On defense, they had a
good draft. Who they draft pass rusher, the inside pass rusher.
They drafted Will Johnson. I think Cardinals is gonna be tough.

(56:09):
I think they're gonna be like one of the best
teams that probably doesn't make the playoffs and the just
toughest to play on a weekly basis. I'm a football coach,
and Avid Golfer, I love the football content, but in
the offseason you need to hit more golf content. I'd
love to hear your thoughts on the non conforming drivers,
big name skipping the memorial, and of course the blood
bat that come at Oakmont. I will have a go

(56:29):
low tomorrow. That is the game plan as of right now. Okay,
we got a couple more. Hope you're enjoying Arizona. My
question is around party and the contract discussion. I agree,

(56:55):
you watch the guy and he doesn't have the nuke arm,
crazy mobility, or any measurable worth mentioning, But the guy wins.
The talk of he only wins because of CMC debo
and Trent grinds my gears. How many quarterbacks have won
without multiple Hall of Famers on their team or coaching staff.
As a business owner myself, I think about it in

(57:17):
and off the field manner. How many business owners succeed
without great employees? How many employees succeed without great management.
The media is asking the guy to do something few,
if any, have ever done, win a Super Bowl with
minimum coaching talent or player talent. I just don't get it.
Can you actually think of anyone who's done that? What's
unfair to party is because the Niners were so good,

(57:42):
his team gets discussed right next to like the Chiefs,
the Ravens and the Bills. So guys, no one and
I mean no one is comparing him to those quarterbacks.
And if they are, they're fucking idiots. He's not as
good as those guys, and everyone's like, what about Burrow?
Burrow too? Bro two, But like relative to his conference,

(58:04):
which is like Jalen Hurts, Jared Goff and Dak the
last three years, not counting last year, but the three
good years with with McCarthy. Look at Goff and in
Jalen Hurts, they're on absolutely loaded offenses. Both of them
have the best offensive lines in the league. You know,

(58:26):
look at the The Eagles have a j Brown, DeVante
Smith and Saquon fucking Barkley. The Lions have Jamiir Gibbs,
who's one of the more versatile players in the league.
I'm and Ross Saint Brown, who's a badass. Sam Sam Laporta.
If you're doing a tight end draft from scratch, I'd
probably not making a past three or four. So it's

(58:48):
like they're unloaded offenses. Do you think either one of
those guys with a shitty cast is gonna look good?
Of course not now I would say the difference now
that Ben Johnson's gone, you know, Kyle, But I'm with you,
Like Belichick had Brady, you know, Farv had Homegrown, Montana

(59:08):
had Walsh. Most good players have good coaches. I mean,
welcome to football. It's just the reason he's still polarizing.
And we mentioned this earlier with the Bryce Huff stuff.
We discriminate where you're drafted. We just do. If Rock
perty had been the thirty third pick, the twenty first pick,

(59:32):
he would be discussed much differently. But he's the last
pick in the draft, so his discussion is like, Ah,
this can't be real. The guy can't be that good.
Just the way it works fair not but it's never
gonna change. It would happen to if any of these
guys Will Howard Riley, Leonard, Kyle McCord, do you name

(59:56):
any of these guys who were just drafted in the
sixth or seventh round went on to be starters and good.
They would not be treated the same as last year.
Bo Nix or Michael Pennix or any of those guys.
We give a high pick of benefit of the doubt
they should be doing this. They were drafted. I you
shouldn't be doing this, you were drafted late. My question
isn't sports related. We've been running our YouTube page for

(01:00:18):
three years and haven't gotten quite the traction we'd like.
We film musicians mostly through Montana, but get people nationally
that come through. We post consistently and have an okay following,
but thought it'd be more by now, specifically on YouTube.
What could we do better to gain growth? Do you
think this market is too saturated to gain a real following? Thanks?

(01:00:41):
Keep up the best sports podcast alive. I can only
speak to the way that I post, slash consume. I
consume like a search engine. So I mentioned last week
driving around that Tesla. I'm like, I'm gonna drive a Tesla.
So I've watched a lot of people do Tesla roos views,

(01:01:01):
and some of these guys have pretty big followings. But
then someone sent me an email like you like, Tesla's
the number one selling car in the world, So it's
like it's a pretty big deal, right, So imagine a
lot of people are searching on YouTube for that specific thing, well,
you know, for June and July, unless I you know

(01:01:23):
how he said he would come on. I think Spy
Tech's gonna come on. Adam Peters, you know, he's kind
of trying to give me the run around. Veach ghosted
me some of these guys. Like, if I get some
of these guys to come on, who knows, maybe it'll
do decent. But for the most part, June and July
is going to be dead for my business? Right, where
do I do the most traction? During the season, A

(01:01:43):
lot of stuff's happening, big stories, games, guys getting injured,
just massive things happening. So it's like you're searching specific stuff.
Let's say tomorrow, I'm just gonna use this as a hypothetical,
the Cowboys trade Micah Parsons to the Detroit Lions. Well,
if I did a reaction podcast to that, it would

(01:02:04):
do six figures, I would imagine, because Shador Sanders was
huge for us. But these are specific stories that people
are searching. So if you're just doing generic stuff, how
am I gonna search you? Right? How am I going
to find you? Why would myself, as a consumer that

(01:02:24):
searches different things ever fall on your page? And I
listen to a lot of music on YouTube, so I'm
not trying to like discourage you by any means. But
I think you have to figure out, like how can
we just because you post something doesn't mean people are
gonna come to it, even if it's good. So, like

(01:02:46):
what I do typically, I mean two of the ten
months a year, kind of three maybe you're dead. I
mean two are just slower, and then a couple in
the off season are a little better than that, but
still relatively slow. But you know, seven, eight, nine months,
there's a lot of stuff happening, so it's all reacting
to stories. So that's that's kind of the business I'm in.

(01:03:08):
I don't just, for the most part, just post something
to post something. So I don't know, I don't have
a great answer for you. I think most people that
have success, you've gotta find some sort of niche that
people are gonna want to like or not even want.
It's not even about wanting, it's about just I don't

(01:03:30):
even know how to describe it. I don't. I probably
the wrong person to ask on this because I would
imagine some people, like you know, a musician just posts
a song, right like if if Kendrick Lamar or Morgan
Wallen or Taylor Swift just post a new song on
their YouTube page. Their following is enormous. It's gonna go viral.

(01:03:53):
A ton of people are gonna watch it. But like,
how does a musician with a thousand followers grow? Maybe
you gotta put out some good stuff, and you know
you're just recording someone that's playing at your venue. I
take it. Maybe, you know, maybe try to pay someone
big to come in, maybe to gain some traction. Like

(01:04:14):
if I just had I'm trying to think. If I
had Stefan Diggs tomorrow on my podcast and he talked
about the bag of pink cocaine, it would be big.
It'd probably be one of my biggest videos of all
time and be a highly listened new podcast. Yeah. But

(01:04:37):
if I had some some random dude that played in
the nineties for the Arizona Cardinals on my podcast, there
was like a rotational special teams guy. No one's gonna care.
So I don't have a great answer for you. Sorry.
Love the pod and have been a listener since twenty
twenty three. As a Cowboy fan that lives in the DFW,

(01:04:57):
I often hear the phrase the one consist factor in
the Cowboys. For nearly thirty year playoff drought. I think
you mean NFC championship drought, but I know what you
mean is Jerry Jones. I counter that there are two
consistent factors, Jerry Jones and the lack of an elite,
game changing quarterback who can win big games. The media
as a whole seems to justify Dak Prescott's ability by

(01:05:20):
pointing to his regular season stats, and this is so
frustrating to myself and many of my cowboy fan friends.
Why do you think the media by and large justifies
teams keep keeping quarterbacks who have success in the regular
season and can't win the playoffs. In my opinion, fans
could care less about the regular season stats and the

(01:05:41):
only important thing is winning championships. Dak's stats, to me,
are a recipe for mediocrity and make it make it
so challenging to care about the team. I think it'd
be hard to move off Dak. I really do, and
I do understand why they have reinvested in him over

(01:06:03):
the years. I do think this last contract's a little crazy.
I can't two hundred thirty million dollars, especially after some
of the playoffs performances. I also think on Dak's side,
It's like, can't you work with the Cowboys a little bit?
Like you are making so much money because you're the
Cowboys quarterback. Do you want to become a legend and
put yourself in the biggest or best opportunity to win.

(01:06:24):
You're making hundreds of millions of dollars no matter what.
But he had to take every penny. And I think
some of the falls on Jerry and their emotion towards
the guy because he's such a likable human being. But
I think the Cowboys have been taking advantage in this
situation because when they've needed Dak to step up, he
simply is not. And when the Cowboys have had to
step up for him financially, they have. I do think

(01:06:47):
there is value in the regular season because for your
team to be consistently good, and they were for three
straight years to win twelve games, having a quarterback that
you can rely on is important. That's why I understand
giving two us some money. He has value because when
he's out the Dolphins suck. But I also see him
against good players in the playoffs, you got no shot,
So he does have value. But like, how do they

(01:07:10):
gave him the amount of money they did it's like,
you guys are nuts, So there has to be some
middle ground. And that's the thing. It doesn't really feel
like there is middle ground. I mean, Sam Darnold was
a close thing. We've seen the middle ground and he
just had, you know, an MVP ish type season, but
then he shot the bed in the playoffs and got
fifty five million dollars. Now it was only one year
and he had to go to a different team. I
think there's some loyalty with Jerry with Dak. I'm not

(01:07:33):
anti Dak, though I do believe it's fair to say
he was never quite the same with the ankle injury
in terms of mobility that was going. Now he has
this crazy hamstring injury. Is he just going to be
truly a pocket quarterback? The problem is he doesn't have
some big arm and he's not like I wouldn't exactly
call him like Drew Brees from the pocket precision picking

(01:07:53):
you apart. I mean, he's a good player, but the
Cowboys would be royally you know what if this makes
him a worse play or this injury. And I also
think it's easy to say dumper. It's like, well, who
am I gonna date? I don't have any other options.
It's easy for me to say, hey, you hate your job,
quit the job. Well, hey I need some money. I

(01:08:15):
got two young kids. What am I gonna do? It's
much easier to quit that job when you got another
one lined up. It's much easier to dump your girlfriend
when you've kind of been flirting with this girl at
work and you're like, she's single. Gives you the confidence
it was. It was easy for the Eagles to be like,
you know what, Carson Wentz, You're out of here. We're
just gonna go with Jalen. It's harder just to get

(01:08:37):
rid of the guy when you don't have any options,
Like it takes balls to do what Sean Payton did
with Russell Wilson. We don't really have any other options,
Like I will figure it out. Cowboys are in that scenario, like,
we don't really have any other options, so we're just
gonna pa him two undred thirty million dollars. I don't
agree with that, but I do understand the logic of, like, well,
fuck else are we gonna do? The answer is you

(01:08:59):
see these other means? It usually is worse the volume

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