3 & Out - John Harbaugh FIRED in Baltimore, Kliff Kingsbury OUT in Washington, Cowboys make a change - The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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The volume What is going On Everybody? John Middlecoff three
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Zone Pouches. Well, I recorded a podcast early afternoon, and
then as I was heading with my wife to this
baby check up appointment, I got forwarded a bunch of
tweets that John Harbaugh had been fired. So I went
to the appointment, came back, re recorded the open, and

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reacted to the John Harbaugh situation, because, let's face it,
the biggest story of the day, and even though we
had been talking about it and alluding to it a
little on the podcast, a lot of you guys dms,
it's still wild. When you actually read that he got fired,
it was wow. So we'll dive into just my quick

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reaction to it, as well as some other stuff that
happened today. Eberflu's fired, Kingsbury fired. We will talk some
college football, some I saw on the internet, just like
this place really is insane right now as well, something
I wanted to start doing like once a week. As
someone who's about to have a child, I'm just gonna
see a lot of things, observe a lot of things,

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have a lot of takes. So I thought, you know,
let's let's mix in the Dad Diaries and we're gonna
try to do that. Well, just who knows it'll it'll
change week to week. But I wanted to dabble today
as well as a little mail bag at John Middlecoff.
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We we got a lot of games coming and we'll
be reacting to it, recording podcasts on the YouTube than
we obviously do here on the audio. But let's I guess,
let's just dive into John Harbaugh. I mean, my first reaction,
even though we had talked about it a little bit
and it was on the table as a possibility, and
I think I had said on Sunday night when they

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lost the game, which I mean, there are a couple
of feet away from winning the game. Maybe not a
couple of feet, a couple of yards. It was a bad kick. Obviously,
John Harball would have been coaching this week, been there
eighteen years. There's no other reaction when you actually see
it than wow, Right, Mike Tomlin or John Harbaugh, the
two longest tenured coaches in the league. If one of

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them lose their job. We've been talking about Tomlin for years,
but we never believe it's actually gonna happen, even John Harbaugh.
I didn't expect John Harbaugh to get fun So it's
one of those things like Jonathan Gannon got fired. No shit,
Stefanski got run out of town. Saw that one coming.
Pete Carroll won and done. Seriously, they could have done

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that three months ago. This one is pretty crazy. I
mean it really is. He's a couple of years removed.
They had the number one overall seed. They were hosting
the Chiefs in the AFC Championship. They were statistically easily
the best team in the league. The Chiefs ended up
beating the Niners. They had played the Niners on Christmas
and housed them. They were favored in that game. I

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know because I bet on them, which cost me five g's,
which did suck a lot, but I had so much
faith on that team after watching them on that Christmas
night against a really good Niners team, and they treated
him like a JV team. A couple of years later,
he's fired. And these are moments that you know, firing
Stefanski or Jonathan Gannon like, the owners like him, but
it's not that big a deal for the organization. Firing

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Brian Dabo he'd been there like three and a half years.
Firing guy that had been there eighteen years, who you've
not only obviously won the Super Bowl a long time
ago with, but had been the leader of one of
the most consistent operations in the league is a really,
really big deal. So I think I speak from most
people that I don't know how your first reaction wasn't Wow,

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they actually did it, and I just took some notes
of just my initial thoughts. Obviously, there are a lot
of rumors coming out that they wanted him to fire
the OC, and it's one of those you know, if
that's true, prideful guy like, I'm not doing that, So
not saying it was Lamar versus Harbaugh, but it was
a little like, yeah, we want to change for Lamar
on offense, and John said no, which there's going to

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be more stories and more inside articles I would imagine
written over the next week on some of the details
with this Lamar situation, John Harbaugh's views on it, the
organization's views on the offense. But right now I don't know.
I don't have any inside information, but it's clear, in
a roundabout way, became Lamar versus the coaching staff's philosophy

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with offense. And listen, you watch that game offensively, it's
just it's been a little weird. The Derrick Henry thing
was weird. When he got benched. In the next week
he runs for two hundred yards and it's just it's
ben bizarre that there's no way around it. And let
me say this, I'm not saying, you know, they're not
justified in doing this. Eighteen years a long time. Maybe

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it's time for a change, Maybe it's time to mix
it up. Is it gonna be hard to replace? John
harbaught on because more than likely, statistics would show you
you're gonna downgrade. That's the way it works now. Unlike
his brother, they're probably not gonna go to Jim tom
Sula because the other thing I wrote down, and we'll
get into John here in a second. This this is twofold.

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He immediately becomes the best coach on the market by
a country mile. I mean, it ain't even close. He
is the number one candidate, and there's not even there's
not even a gap between second. He can't even see
the Stefanskis and the Solace and those fucking guys can't
even see him with binoculars, the best deer hunting scope.

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You couldn't even find him. So he is the number
one candidate by a mile. Chefter tweeted out seven teams
in the first forty five minutes, called his agent, well,
there aren't seven openings, so they are gonna be teams
that would be firing their coach to hire John Harball,
which I've said it for Mike Tomlin forever. Like those
two guys, if they ever became available, run circles around

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the other candidates. They are immediate hires for all these teams.
Hell John Harbaugh. Like say some of the franchises out loud,
think John Harbaugh would never coach the Arizona Cardinals. John
Harbaugh would never coach the Tennessee Titans, Like I can't
even see John Harbaugh coach in the Atlanta Falcons, though
if I'm in Atlanta, I'd be all over them. Like,
let's face it, he feels like a New York Giant,

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and at this point in time, it'd be shocking if
he's not the head coach of the New York Giants.
And I also think the Baltimore Ravens immediately lap all
these clown organizations are the best option by They're the
number one job on the market and it's not even close.
They have an established quarterback, they have an established culture,
they have a consistency of drafting well with DaCosta and Nazi.

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They have an owner that is stable and not like
a lot of these clowns that have no clue what
he's doing. He knows what it looks like. He will
stand with you through thick and thin. I mean eighteen years.
That's a long freaking time. I saw right now, Andy
reads the longest tenure or Tomlin technically is right oh seven,
assuming that he keeps his job. But let's you know,

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who knows this week, what if they get blown out
by the Texans that Tomlin and then it goes Andy
and then all of a sudden, you're all like Kyle
and McVeigh. So this is a league that runs through
these guys like you know, I run through paper towels,
and guys like John Harbaugh. They are they don't come often,
and he's going to get a job. Listen, I understand

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the Rooney rule, and I mean Mike Tomlin benefited from
it because they just interviewed him and loved him and
got the job. You should not have to interview If
I'm the Giants and I want to hire John Harbaugh
to be my head coach, I've said this forever. There
has to be some sort of stipulation, like if you've
won a Super Bowl, I don't need to go through
and interview people just to interview people. If I want
to hire him, I should be able to hire him yesterday.

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And I would say this if I'm Joe Shane, that
would be a problem because that would not guarantee your employment.
If John Harbaugh has like the Ravens guys, one thing
they're really good at is producing personnel people. Google Azzi's
tree is basically like the opposite of you know, Belichick's
coaching tree. So you see Joe Ortiz immediately go with

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John or Jim Harbaugh. He's good at his job, right,
He's just good at his job. So if John's like, hey,
I got a guy like like Joe, it wouldn't be
Joe Ortiz, but someone like that that I want to
bring with me. Joe Shane's getting the pink slip and
he's done. It happens like that, And like, I don't
think there should have to be some charade, Like I

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get it with most of these co you have to interview,
like Robert Salas and Matt Naggi's like, you have to
follow the rules, right, But John Harbaugh, there should be
no I want to hire John Harbaugh. I'm hiring anora.
That should be allowed because if I was the Giants,
like I'd want to be hired yesterday. And I think
it makes a lot of sense with his personality, with

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that that region of the country he's comfortable in. Uh,
if I was a betting man right now, John Harbaugh
would be the next coach in the New York Giants.
And to go from the situation they've been in, if
that comes to fruition, you should be like, think of
the guy Pat Shermer's and mcadoo's and the dable the
situation the way that Joe Judge. I mean, give me

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a break, it would it would. He's older, though the
Hardballs feel a little younger. I mean, I think John's
like sixty three, uh, would be a pretty big game
changer for the culture of the organization. It would have
a Coughlin type vibe. So and the Ravens. I saw

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Daniel Jeremiah, who obviously works with all these He works
for the Chargers as their radio play or analysts with
the play by play guy Matt Muney Smith, like jesse Mentor,
you know Mike McDonald, jesse Mintor were creations of the
Raven operation, and by all accounts, jesse Mentor is a star. Well,
if anyone's gonna know that it's the Harbaugh family, now,

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is it a little weird to replace John. I also
think when you read John's statement one, you don't get
fired in that statement on that like Adobe Canva, like
they've known this was heading that way potentially. But if
you know so, maybe there's not as much bad blood
as there would be for most of us humans if

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we got fired or relieved of our duties. But I
do think that jesse Mentor would be a name that
I'd be stunned if he's not one of their lead
candidates and he doesn't end up his the Ravens job.
But if I were all these guys that are sniffing
around on jobs, that would be the number one job
and it wouldn't even be close. Right. That's what's crazy

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about this situation is the guy you fired immediately the
best candidate, and your job is immediately the best job.
And I think now it kind of puts a lot
of pressure on this Lamar situation for you know, because
they're judged the Ravens are judged on the playoffs at
this point in time. That's and that's is a difficult job. Right.

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You get hired, you're expected to not only make the playoffs,
but like, can we win a super Bowl? Now? Can
we get back to the super Bowl? And that's that's
not like you go to the Titans, you win six games, shit,
they give you an extension. You went to the Giants,
you went nine to eight back to back years. John Morrow,
buy a beach house, right, you you go to the Cardinals,
if you just beat McVeigh or Kyle once in a while, Jonathan,

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you know, Michael Bidwell buying a golf membership here silver Leaf.
So that's not the case with the Ravens. You get hired,
you're expected to win, You're expected to win big. And
John Harbaugh went to the playoffs a lot, right, and
he had some devastating losses. That comes with the territory.
I would say none was a bigger pivotal moment in
his career then that Chiefs lost at home a couple

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of years ago. You know, I think, listen, we can
make fun the butterfly effect of the kid missing the
kick on Sunday Night, which obviously was big. Now, if
he refused to fire Munken and that was not gonna change,
then he was probably getting fired no matter what, unless
he won the Super Bowl. But that moment a couple

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of years ago, he beats the Chiefs in that game,
I just think they're winning the super Bowl and you're
looking at a two T like he's he's kind of untouchable.
And this back and forth or the ad odds a
little bit with the quarterback and the scheme and the
coaches would have as much juice as him, and he doesn't.

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Right now, he simply doesn't. Right, So crazy moment, I
mean one of those stories that it's just wild when
you see it, and Tomlin would be the same thing.
It's just wow, seismic earthquake that just erupts through the NFL.
And I think it gets back to the schefter thing

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of him tweeting out that you have teams with coaches
talking to them like teams with coaches aren't. Like, can
I interview Robert Sala? You know, and listen. I'm not
trying to shit on Roberts. I like Robert saw a lot,
but he's clearly gonna be one of the top candidates
this cycle. There are certain coaches Mike Tomlin is one
of those guys too. If they were available, teams with

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coaches go, I want to get rid of my guy
to hire that guy, And I don't even I would
imagine that could be the the Bucks. If I'm Jason
light like, I would you rather have John Harbor or
Tom Bowles. I'm just trying thinking off the cuff. Jerry
probably not. John's too famous. Whose do the Bengals never would?

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Who are teams that missed the playoffs? Commanders? Where does
Josh Harris come from the NBA? What are you always
chasing stars? Big names? Of coaches. Look at who he's
hired at coaches, Doc Rivers, Nick Nurse, you know, champion
type guys. He's looking at dan Quinn. Would you rather
have Dan Quinn or John Harbaugh? Would not shock me
at all if the Commanders and Tampa Bay Bucks were

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two teams with teams that reached out. And I'm not
talking about their gms, I'm talking with the owners. What
did the Glaziers once upon an end to trade for Gruden?
Look at Josh Harris who's hired as coaches of his
NBA team. Look at what they've chased with their NBA
team with players. Look at today they got rid of
their two coordinators. Just say, you get the fuck out

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of here. Guys were the coordinators last year when they
were in the NFC Championship game with the least talented
roster we've ever seen make it that far. So this
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recorded part of the podcast, But I did want to
start with the Dallas Cowboys, and they fired Matt Eberflus,
who sent out a press released and said we released
Matt Eberflus like he's a player. No, no, Jerry, you
fired Matt Eberflus. And I think this happens a lot
in football when coaches don't have much juice. Probably happens

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to a lot of industries when you have more poll
whoever you're working for or with, let you do what
you want to do. When you don't have much pull
and you don't have much leverage. We just saw it
with Pete Carroll. You think Pikroll wanted to hire Chip Kelly. No,
but Pete Carroll didn't have any leverage, you know in
twenty twenty five, so he had to work with him
and Brian Schottenheimer probably had the least amount of leverage

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in like the history of the NFL. So think about this.
Matt Eberflus had worked for the Dallas Cowboys before he
went to the Colts and then the Bears. Right remember
Josh McDaniels when he took herned down the job in
Indy hired Eberflus before he even got there. So eber
Flus was waiting in his office. He never showed. But

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I think the thing with eber Flus is one he's
not very good. I've never seen it. You know, you
watch the hard Knocks. He comes across as no jews.
I don't know, some just off. You know there's something
and you can overrate hard knocks all you want. There
is a judgment on like I feel this guy's presence.
I see this right, you know it, knew it right away,

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like Bill O'Brien's presence, Dan Campbell's presence. You watch Matt
eberflusch like, what is this and the irin is he's
a Saban guy played for Saban at Kent State, Like
they're pretty close, and he just thinks. But here's the
thing about Brian shotten Neer, while their record isn't great,
kind of proved to Jerry, like I can be a
head coach and I definitely can run the offense because

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the offense was awesome. I don't know, I didn't even
see the final stats Sunday with such a joke. I mean,
Dak Prescott, I guess he probably didn't cause Stafford probably
bypassed him, but had led league in yards. Their offense
for most of the year was really good. The defense
was atrocious. There is no way of Brian Schottenheimer had
his choice, he would have hired Ebraflus. That is your
classic we're telling you who to hire. Happens all across

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the league when gms have a lot of juice, When
owners don't trust the coach, they force guys on their
coaching staff. You know, it's something that it's rarely reported
when guys are hired because you don't want to know.
And like, well, the owner forced me to hire this
offensive or defensive coordinator. Definitely wouldn't have been my first hire.
But you feel it when a guy's fired, and to me,

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that shows that like Brian Schottenheimer kind of gained a
little bit of juice. It's crazy to say because the
Cowboys weren't that good, but I do think his offensive
prowess and let's face it, handles himself I thought pretty
well in kind of a weird circumstance to be like,
this guy's got to go. And you could tell the
way Jerry was talking like two or three weeks ago

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when one of his postgame press conference is like, yeah,
Eberflus came really highly re I commended. It's like Jerry,
he worked for you, like you knew him. So I
just think sometimes these guys the NFL, you know, has
turned that there's a scam element to it. There always
has been, but now with the money on the line,
you know, I just saw we'll get into Cliff Kingsbury,

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who is now being paid by three different organizations, three
different organizations. In the real world, like outside of football,
you would get to the point where people start suing you,
you know, and these coaches like Cliff Kingsbury all time
scam artist. I mean, I've never seen it with Cliff,
and this is nothing personal. It seems like a great guy,

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hard worker. Everyone likes him personally. I think his offense,
I mean makes me want to puke in my mouth.
He's had a slight moment of brilliance for the Cardinals,
and two years ago it's like they were touched by
the gods. They were like ninety five percent on fourth downs,
which is never sustainable. And obviously they had a bunch
of injuries. But he got ran out of town real quick.

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And no one has a better pr campaign than Cliff.
Like a month ago, people were like, oh, Cliff Kingsbury
is gonna be interviewing for head coaching jobs. You know
why that came out because it was pretty clear Washington
was gonna fire him. You can tell me you mutually departed,
give me a break. That means fired. We've seen that
for years. Jim Harball once famously mutually departed with the

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forty nine ers. A month later, it's like, yeah, they
fired me, of course they did. Cliff Kingsbury was just fired. Now.
I'd also say like kind of chaotic and this we
just talked about Brian Schottenheimer. The one thing you get
with Brian Schottenheimer, and these two teams are in the
same division, more than likely are gonna be competing for
second place next year behind the Eagles. Is one thing

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you get with Brian is like, I know he's calling
the offense. I know him and Dak and whoever you
bring in, it's his scheme, it's his baby, that's his thing. Well,
dan Quinn's like, this defensive guy didn't even call defense
until he took it over Midseas. What's kind of why
he got back in the good graces of everybody in Dallas.
He was kicking ass the defensive coordinator, and I think
that also undid Ebraflus because Jerry a couple of years

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ago saw what a great defensive coordinator looks like, making
kind of random guys become really good players. Kingsbury, I
mean to me, he's got a Chip Kelly thing to him.
The name is way bigger than the ROI you get.
The name's really famous, and obviously Cliff's a good looking dude.
But when it comes to offensive prowess, good defenses are

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licking their lips to play that guy. And you can
tell me Jayden was banged up this year, and that
is true. But if you want Cliff Kingsbury to be
your offensive coordinator and call your plays, I will short
your organization in the National Football League. I would say
the same thing for Chip Kelly. And you know clearly
if you are going. And here's the thing with Cliff,

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like when you get a guy like Jayden who the
question mark is now, it's like, we got to keep
him healthy. We gotta be careful with him. He could
be a little reckless. We'll see easiest way to keep
him healthy. Run the football, have a run oriented operation.
And I would imagine Dan Quinn and this listen, Adam
Peters had a front row seat for a long time

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for Kyle Shanahan and you know that offense, and you
just have to wonder, like, you know, Lafloor's not the
packer one, but the brother who's now Mike, who's with
the Jets and who is now with the Rams under McVeigh,
Like I wonder if he will want to institute something
like that, some version of that for jayde And why

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because it's not only quarterback friendly, it's keep your quarterback,
you know, away from chaos, a lot of play action
stuff and obviously running the ball as paramount, but Washington,
Like I think Dan Quinn is immediately on the odd
seat because this team was the oldest team in the NFL.
Some of the guys like Deebo Samuel's a free agent.

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You know, Bobby Wagner who had to play all season long,
all time great player, legendary player. I mean, he had
no business being on the field this year. Couldn't move
and it's a space league, so you're you know, you're
playing in the open field, and he just couldn't cover
a soul, he couldn't change direction. It was it was
tough to watch. If it was just a run play downhill,
he could make it. But most of the plays in

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the NFL get you going laterally and you kind of
felt bad watching it. But that's on the organization. And
now you fire the defensive coordinator as well. Here's what
head coaches always do. They start pointing the finger. And
what's crazy to me is last year everything was great,
and then this year that these guys just forget how
to coach football. Or are you kind of admitting, like, eah,
we's never really believed in these guys from the jump.

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But listen, Washington, we thought had turned the corner when
they hired Adam, when they hired Dan Quinn, they got
this new ownership. This year was pretty chaotic and now
they're blowing out people left and right. So the owner
comes from the NBA, in a sport that gets very
used to firing coaches, the seventy six yers, they will
not hesitate shit cand of people, so he ain't afraid

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to pay people to go away. And the one thing
in the NFL, especially when you have a young quarterback stability. Well,
Jane Daniels on his second offensive coordinator now in three years,
and he's coming off an injury riddled year. So whoever
they hire, whatever system that they implement, is going to
be extremely important for the long term health of Jane

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Daniel's career. Which is crazy because last year he looked
like a superstar and this year just fell apart every
you know which way from the jump. It felt like
he was injured from the jump and never looked right
when he played. And last on the ownership front, I
watched some of Carly Ursay's press conference pretty clear and listen,
not everyone's a good public speaker. I totally get it.

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My brother, who can do so many things that I
can't dream of doing could barely speak at my wedding
to give a speech. He was so nervos couldn't even
eat his dinner. And so it's like, there are certain
things I can't relate to. Carly Ursay not a great
public speaker, but like I've seen it, Like I don't
judge you on that. Not everyone's comfortable speaking in front

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of people. That doesn't make or break you as a
quote unquote leader to be not comfortable in front of
the press, and in twenty twenty five owners rarely talk anyway.
But I just tried to take away her words and
she didn't really have any Like she couldn't really justify Beside,
she likes Chris Ballard and she thinks Shane Sichen's good
at his job. And obviously Chris Ballard's gone nine plus years,

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has a woner division has been in the playoffs. I
think I saw someone say it's seven years. That was
like Luck's last healthy year playing. And I got an
interesting text from a buddy in the NFL about the Colts,
and I think They're bigger issue is the team has
a lot of question marks. You know, obviously the quarterback

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situation is a disaster. The guy that was gonna resurrect
their franchise just because he was competent. Has a torn
achilles and he is a broken leg, but so obviously
Anthony Rigton is not to be on this team next year.
There is even said with Kirk Cousins, who now granted
he was older but not mobile. Cousins looked way better

(27:09):
this year than he did last year. So to think
that Daniel Jones, these guys, if they don't make the
playoffs next year, they're just both getting fired, no matter
how much he likes him or not, because there's too
much fan pressure and you can tell they're putting out statements.
She's trying to, you know, say all the right things,
but people are pissed because this team just always sucks
and not suck enough where it's like, okay, we bottomed out.

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We can get Fernando Mendoza, like always kind of in
the middle, like seven, eight, nine wins, just get going
nowhere fast. And a buddy sent me this. He's like,
they're in a tough spot. This is a guy that
works in the league. Pittman has regressed. Taylor will want
a contract. Lat too decent but not huge impact. Buck
and Grover getting older, and I look Jonathan Taylor's contract,

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it was built so if it had gone wrong, they
could have got out this year. So the guaranteed money
starts changing. So when you're a great player, it's like, well,
I want my more guaranteed money now, and it's not, well,
well we haven't been winning. They don't care, and I
don't blame them for not care. You gotta take advantage.
That's the business you're in. But I think the Colts now.
The other thing that's scary is the Texas are solid

(28:14):
right Casario Demiico, their infrastructure, their young players like they're
going nowhere. But to me, the Jags, it's like, well,
they don't feel like they're going anywhere either. So it's like, uh,
are we sure Daniel Jones is gonna be ready to play?
What if Jonathan Taylor wants, you know, twenty five million
dollars a year. We don't have a first round pick.

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I forgot to mention that we do not have a
first round pick for the next two years because of
the Sauce Gardener trade. And listen, if Sauce is healthy,
it obviously gives us a really good corner. But ideally
that was gonna go with Charvarius Ward, who's also a
good corner, would give us one of the best defensive
backfields in the you know, the league when it comes
to starting corners. Charvarius' dad, and I don't even blame him,

(28:56):
wants him to retire. I think he got three concussions
this year and he had a unch when he was
with the forty nine ers, like it's a problem. So
you have this situation where you're all in unsauce. You
need him to be a star because you just trade
the first round picks and the guy you were gonna
pair him with has a serious concussion issue. And there's
I mean, who knows. It's his decision, But wouldn't shock

(29:17):
anybody if he just calls her quits. So I think
if you're a Colts fan, you go listen. Jim Irsay
was losing his marbles towards the end. It was impulsive,
But you have this, you know, his daughter now in
this situation where she has a really close relationship with
Chris Ballard, and Chris even said, I guess he told
her like last year, I don't ever want our relationship

(29:40):
to impact your view on my performance, which is easy
for him to stay out loud makes him seem like
good guy and listen. I've never heard a bad word
about Chris, but most people will get fired in his situation.
And I think it's safe to say if Pops was
still around, you know, in his you know, before the
last couple of years really fell off a cliff, I
think Chris would have been done and he survived because

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I think it's fair to say she likes him personally.
The transfer portal, I think this is fascinating. Twenty five
percent of Division one A football players are in the portal.
I heard a stat there are enough players in the
portal to fill every SEC roster. I'm not a huge

(30:25):
like it's broken, it needs a change. I'm kind of
entertained by it all. I just talked to a buddy
who I'm trying to help a guy's son land somewhere,
former big recruit who you know, got four you know.
Part of the transfer portal now is like when I
worked at frisone State. I remember Pat Hill, there would
have been twelve fifteen guys a year he just would

(30:46):
have cut right. That were just shittheads that wouldn't listen
that I'm not even talking because they were bad players.
And some of that as well, Like you miss on
recruits you could, you weren't allowed to do that really,
right if they were in good academic standing, you kind
of just had to stick with him and you couldn't
just get rid of the scholarship, so you ended up
keeping them around anyway. Now, what happens. I just saw

(31:08):
Arch Manning's roommate, a wide receiver. It happens all over
the country, and I know someone personally that happened to.
The coach comes to you and it's typically a younger
player and says, you're never gonna play here. You are
not welcome on the team anymore. Now legally they have
to honor your scholarship, so they say you can stay
on campus and we you know, at Texas, at Arizona,

(31:28):
at wherever, and you can stay on scholarship and just
go to school, but you are no longer on the
football team. That is something over the last couple of
years that did not exist in college football. Maybe like
Saban could push a guy out, you know, a big
time coach could because a big recruit like you're never
gonna play here, and kind of force his hand, but
not like now or just you can just legitimately tell

(31:50):
a guy you need to leave. It happens in the
NFL all the time. You're just you're cut, right, we're
cutting or releasing you, kind of like Eberflus leasing you.
And it happens now. It happens in college football left
and right. So a lot of these guys in the portal,
some of them are going in to try to get
more money. A lot of them, especially younger ones, are

(32:11):
told you're not good enough, you're not welcome here. Also,
we want to go into the portal and get an
older guy. Rick Patino said this a couple of years ago.
High school kids are in major trouble, and it's no
different in college football. Because if you're a college football
coach trying to win in twenty twenty six, it's my
thing with Lincoln Riley, it's like he's getting a lot
of credit and he's got this new stud GM that

(32:34):
has the number one recruiting class in the country. Historically,
that's a massive deal. I'd say in twenty twenty six,
it's never meant less. Ideally you hit on a couple
of those guys, But in like two years, if a
guy's not playing or what he might just leave Hell
in a year he can leave. So I think this
situation is pretty crazy. But I will also say this forever,

(32:56):
it's been like my child just it's not gonna play
college football. Just be realistic before it even pops out.
But a lot of people that thought their child had
a chance at college athletics, it was because they got
free college. Right. I want to get my son a scholarship,
get my daughter a scholarship, so they go to school
for free, big deal. I mean, it saves you a
lot of money. I don't blame anyone for thinking that,

(33:18):
even though a tiny tiny percent of kids actually go
to college to you know, to get a full ride,
and then a tiny tiny percent of those guys go
on to play professional sports. Well. Chris Vanini, who covers
college football for The Athletic, I saw he posted this
tweet because he wrote an article that quarterbacks now starting
quarterbacks in the power for on the low end or

(33:40):
making a million, and on the high end are making
up four to five million dollars. I just talked to
a college coach today actually, and he was laughing. He says,
it's crazy that if you are if someone tells you, like, hey,
you're gonna be a fourth round pick. Historically, a lot
of guys I'm leaving. I'm going pro now. It's like
I'm I'm not taking a pay cut, and they stay.

(34:01):
He's like, I bet die I said, Diego Pavio would
play college football if he could till he's like thirty
eight years old. He'd be like Aaron Rodgers of Vanderbilt
in the SEC. I never really, I don't blame him.
I mean, you start making seven figures, like, I don't
want to give this up. I don't want to take
a pay cut, go into the real world and quarterbacks.
I mean, I just saw that Sam Levitt. I don't
think he's officially signed, but there were rumors that go

(34:22):
to Kentucky for five million dollars. I saw a great
tweet like there's never been greater proof that we printed
too much money. I agree, and I'm not anti anyone
making money. It seems like I remember Jackson Arnold last
year went to Auburn for like three four million dollars.
It's like, what are we doing? Uh? You know, edge
rushers on the low end are going for half a

(34:43):
mill on the high end or going for two million.
Offensive tackles, which obviously should you know, go for a lot,
same thing going up for two million dollars and on
the low end six to seven hundred thousand dollars. There
has never ever been a better time to be a athlete.
And it's not even close. Obviously, popularity for college football

(35:05):
is at an all time high. Ratings are through the
roof the college Football Playoff. But forever it was a
really big deal, like I played We all know these people.
I'm forty years old. Like got a buddy, you played
it usc with Pete Carroll, Got a buddy you played it,
you know in Iowa for Kirk Farence. Now he runs
a bank, or now he's the number one sales guy
for this medical device company. We all know these people.

(35:27):
But nowadays, if you just even if you don't sniff
going pro, you're gonna make hundreds of thousands of dollars
if you're playing Division one football. And let's face it,
a lot of these guys. For every you know Bane
or Caleb Downs or all the sweet players, even the
good starters on the good teams, there are a lot
of below average guys who are cashing in. And you know,

(35:52):
for these parents that used to force their kid like lift, weights,
eat right, all that stuff. I think this stuff's only
getting crazier. It's only gonna get crazy because it's like, yeah,
we don't even who cares if we even go pro?
If we could make several million dollars in our late
teens and early twenties. I'm still kind of at a loss.

(36:12):
What are these guys doing with all this money? Like
you spend so much time in the fall playing football meetings,
practice lifting, sleeping. I mean, you don't have that much
time in the day. And a lot of these towns
are small. There wouldn't even be anything to spend a
lot of money on. It's not like you're gonna buy
some you know, million dollar house there. You're you're only
there for a couple of years. I hope a lot

(36:34):
of these guys which I wouldn't have I don't even
know what I would have blown it on, but it
would have been the dumbest shit possible. I mean, I
can't even like rent out a movie theater to play
Call of Duty for the week with all my buddies.
You can go unlimited food. I mean you would you
would just think of the stupidest stuff ever. Obviously, on

(36:56):
top of any time you went out, you would pay
for everything. But these cats are living well. Man. Most
of us when we were in college drinking natty lights
and you know, pop off vodka out of a plastic bottle.
Not anymore. They are drinking top shelf good stuff, eating well.

(37:16):
I mean the amount of college kids historically that eat
just Chipotle and McDonald's and just whatever's cheap. These dudes
are going to the steakhouse five nights a week. So
props to them forgetting the cash, and props to some
of these coaches that can you know, I guess just

(37:36):
get rid of guys. I did want to start something
new as someone. I'm recording this on Tuesday, kind of
a little after lunch. We have a doctor's appointment to
find out if the baby is flipped right now. Obviously,
the head's up, and for those of you non parents
or non future parents are in the mix, I wouldn't
even have known this either. The head's gotta be down

(37:57):
for the baby to come out naturally. If the head
is up, you gotta open up the belly and take
the baby out. Turns out my baby or future son
has a ninety percent dome big head. I got a
big head too, so I don't know, you know, if
she you know, she's only she's like five to five,
so it's not like she's super long for the baby
to move around. So pretty good chance. Next Thursday we

(38:20):
will be having this baby. And I said, you know,
as we transition to Netflix, gotta mix it up and
have a little fun. So I'm gonna notice so much
stuff with being a father, doing stuff funny, serious things
that pissed me off. Everything around the kid too. I'm
not even specifically talking about the human being. I'm just
talking about everything that surrounds the baby. We went to

(38:42):
this pediatrician the other day, like another couple, and he
was telling us all this stuff. It's just so much
stuff that is not even out of your comfort zone,
but you couldn't even fathom what you're getting involved in,
which is it's also fun. But I thought, let's just
write down things that I think or things that I
want to rant on and call it the Dad Diaries

(39:03):
because a lot of you guys are fathers out there,
some of you have older kids that can relate to this.
I want to start with this because I was born
in nineteen eighty four and most people in my life
up until about high school, were all like similar, Like
I guess middle class just normal and middle class. Back then,

(39:24):
people making thirty forty grand a year, like, most people
all kind of on the same level. So whether you
made thirty grand or sixty grand, like, everyone was kind
of the same. I didn't know people that were multi millionaires.
But the thing was that every kid looked the same
if you just went around, most of us had a
couple pair of shorts, couple shirts, maybe a pair of shoes. Honestly,

(39:45):
up until I was like in high school, I feel
like it didn't have that many clothes. I would wear
a lot of like my high school football teams T
shirts that we got, or I was on the golf team,
like colored shirts they'd give us. I had a couple
pair of shorts, pair of Nike sh use maybe I
mean a couple of hats. I feel like most kids
in my generation, like the eighties and the nineties, we

(40:07):
all kind of looked the same, unless you were like
I don't know, like a Trump or some really rich
person like dressed up. I felt like I wore the
same clothes as everyone else I was around, Like I
went to high school. You look back at some pictures
we were all wearing the same stuff. My unmorn child,
he has not even come out yet, easily has more

(40:28):
clothes in his room. And I would say eighty percent
we have purchased. My mother in law came down with
two suitcases because like her cousins and some of our
family members gave us a bunch of clothes. But obviously
it's a little more difficult when you live in a
different state than a lot of people you know to travel.
It's not like I can just drive over and get
the stuff, so it's like we're just purchasing it. And

(40:50):
I think a big thing is this changed the game.
And I would say this for myself as well. Even
though I basically have a closet full of clothes, I
wear probably ten percent of them three d and sixty
five days a year. I think I read a stat
most human beings, unless you're in a certain industry, wear
like less than twenty percent of their clothes, which to
me is very true. But this baby, who is going

(41:11):
to grow at a rapid rate, probably has more clothes
before he's even arrived than I had the first ten
years of my life. And she's not alone like I'm
not putting this on her for doing this. I think
this is a big thing with the Internet and the
clothing industry. You could argue no industry has benefited more.
And I'm not even counting babies. I'm just out in

(41:33):
clothing industry in general because the social media marketing like
it works, like that wasn't even an option. We just
went over to places when I was like seven or
eight or ten, and people just had the three ring
binders of polaroids in a laminate and You're like, oh,
cool picture, cool pictures. That was our Facebook, that was

(41:54):
our Instagram. And I just think the simpler times made it.
I don't even know if it was good or bad.
I just think we all look the same and every
single person kind of wore the same shit that clearly
is not the came my son from jackets to corduroys
to cool onesies like I don't think I had any

(42:14):
of that when I was a kid. And here's the
other thing. We have more contraptions of bottle washers, three
different strollers, trash can that has a special contraption to
like get rid of the odor on the shits, to
changing tables, to all sorts of stuff that Again, I'm

(42:38):
not trying to be a Debbie Downer here because I'm
excited and it's fun. But I told a buddy the
other day, people have been having kids since the cave
man days. And even if you just go back to
like when my parents were born, you know, if your
parents in the fifties and sixties, whatever, it's like people
didn't even wear seatbelts. They threw their kid in the
back of the car. They just threw their kid in

(42:59):
the crip. Now it's like kids wear whooped. There are
all these rules, and I just wonder if we've over
complicated this stuff a little. I just can't imagine that
all these contraptions are necessary because I think back to
and again, it's not like I have that many memories
from being you know, obviously being one or two, but

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I kind of remember, you know, when my brother was born,
when I was like four and a half five years old,
definitely when we shared a room up until I was
probably like ten or eleven, and we only had a
two bedroom house. So by the time I was like
I got to junior high, like, I don't want to
live with Jeff anymore, so they put me in the
living room before we kind of did this room model
and added a room. Because we only had two bedrooms.
We put me in the living room. My dad got

(43:41):
cubicles like you see in an office and just created
a cubicle in the corner of the living room and
I lived there, I think for like a year. I
was like, my son is never gonna have those type experiences,
which I fucking hated at the time. I'm not gonna lie.
I mean, it sucked, but it did build a little character.
And I just think these contraptions. I just remember we've

(44:04):
had a room. There was a crib, and that was
just kind of my room, and then eventually Jeff came.
We got me a single bed in the corner, and
then he just took the crib. I don't remember any contraptions.
I don't remember like thousand dollars strollers, and we just
I don't remember like rules about blankets and whoops and

(44:26):
obviously the video monitors. None of that stuff existed. And
we're all just fine. We're all just thriving. Most of
my friends same thing, and we're completely fine. So I
think the big baby business, which again I don't blame her.
You get pressure. All your friends are buying this stuff.
You just do it, I guess, but I wonder if

(44:47):
we took a step back, how much stuff is unnecessary.
But he's gonna have it all. And you know, potentially
next Thursday, your boy will have a new son on
the way. What is going on? Everybody? You know what time?

(45:14):
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(45:36):
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Middlecoff is my Instagram. Fire in the DMS and get
your questions answered on the show. Try to go rapid
fire because I got a lot of questions. I'm gonna
be answering a lot. I mean, we got it's a

(45:57):
time of year where people are got thoughts, gotta opinions
and fire in my way, so keep them coming. How
much stock do you put into hiding play calls and
coaches hiding the playbook week seventeen or eighteen against inferior opponents?
As a Bronco fan, I hope to God this is
the case, but I can't help but worry that our

(46:20):
only hope to win a playoff game is a pick
six and three field goals. It probably varies a little
team to team, you know, Sean, I saw Ben Johnson
say that, like, we were trying to win this game.
This wasn't just hiding our stuff. We tried to win
that game, Like we coached all week to win that game.

(46:41):
And people would be like, well, if they got the two,
they knew they were playing the Packers, they wouldn't want
to show anything. I think the counter and I think
Ben would probably reiterate this. We just had two kitchen
sink games with them within the last month, like at
this point in time, by by week seventeen eighteen, what
are you hiding? Like what type plays would you have

(47:04):
or schemes that you would have You like been holding
this one for round two? That's that's not really a
football works. I mean you're throwing most of that stuff
during the season. If you got it, obviously you can
build off that in a playoff game. But I think
that is a little overrated. That's what my gut says
now in a certain situation, like when you're throwing the game,

(47:29):
like the Eagles, like they clearly didn't care, the Chargers
throwing Trey Lance out there and benching a bunch of starters,
Like yeah, but like I watched it, look like to
me the Bears all their starters were out there. I'd
be lying if I said I was that dialed in
on the Broncos game. I know Boden was playing, but like,
we're all your starters playing in that game, you kind

(47:50):
of cruise. I wouldn't make that much of that game
in particular, But I do think it's fair to be
a little nervous going into the playoffs. Do you trust
this team? It's weird about being a number one seed
and not being that excited. That's what's crazy about the
two number one seeds. If you're Seattle, you're on top
of the moon. If you're Denver, you're like kind of nervous.
I think the best thing you had going for you.

(48:10):
If you're Denver is the conference is kind of weird.
But what if in that first game, let's say Chalk holds.
I mean, I think there's a decent chance Denver's playing
the Texans or the Bills. So I mean that's those
are tough, either Josh Allen or the Texans defense. Like,
that's a tough first round matchup. I think if you

(48:31):
could choose any team to play, if you're the Broncos,
you would want Chalk to hold and play the Steelers.
Do you think John Gruden will ever coach in the
NFL again? As a Raider fan, Gruden was the last
coach that seemed to have a plan. The team improved
every year and went to the playoffs in his third year. Uh.
I think it was his fourth year and they went

(48:52):
to the playoffs once they fired him. And that was
also winning the last game of the season. So I
like John from an entertainment stace. He's very entertaining, you know,
doing his barstool stuff just on the internet. He entertains me.
I'm very entertained by John Gruden. I do think the
coach John Gruden like the lore, the legend of it all.

(49:16):
When he was doing Monday Night Football, probably grew to
disproportionate amounts, and I do think he's a little overrated,
and he's also a terrible evaluator. He's not very good
in the draft, and he's kind of a power hungery guy.
So I don't think he's ever working in the NFL. Again,
I don't, and I'm not even talking about the suing.

(49:39):
I just don't like who would hire him now, especially
a lot of these gms like they know he'll try
to get rid of them. Do you think we'll ever
get to the point where a top quarterback prospect refuses
to play for some of these teams, like the Jets
or the Browns. Obviously, being drafted high financially changes their lives,
but over the last twenty years, these organizations are clearly

(50:00):
poorly run. So do you think in any way these
guys start to say no to teams. You do have
to wonder if the nil money like gives him a
little more leverage. If I'm a starting quarterback coming out
and I've made ten million dollars the last two years,
it's a little bit different than just having no money

(50:20):
going to the first place is gonna pay you. I
remember the first time I ever got forty grand working
for the Eagles. I was like, I hit the jackpot.
So it's in a lot of college people feel that way.
Whether you're an athlete or whether you're just a normal kid.
The first time you ever get a paycheck's a big deal.
Now if you're a college quarterback. These guys are making
four or five million dollars a year. Carson Beck. I

(50:40):
think Carson he's a bad example because he's not gonna
go high. But Carson Beck's made a lot of money
the last couple of years, So I would imagine it's
gonna happen at one point in time because I would
not play for the Jets. How could you? How could you?
The Raiders? I like, who's my coach? The Raiders a

(51:00):
little more enticing because like they're just gonna be like,
we're gonna have you talk with Tom Brady constantly. I
think that's gonna be the draw. And I don't feel
Fernando Mendoz is doing that question. Have you gotten back
and watched Tyler Shuck's the last six or seven games?
I have a life. The answer is no. I watched

(51:21):
a lot of them live, though I've watched probably three
of his last five games three of his last four games.
Where's the question. What impressed me was a situation he
was playing a young, banged up offensive line, handing the
ball to fourth and string running backs, throwing to a
lave plus replacement level receivers. I know I'm biased, but

(51:41):
did you view that shuck showed down the stretch given
the circumstances. I got a text from a guy on
their staff I think after his first start that said,
we got a guy. Obviously got a little bumpy after that,
but down the stretch. The pick against Atlanta was an ideal,
But honestly, if you're you would actually rather lose that

(52:03):
game at that point for draft status. I think he
looks really, really talented. He's got a lot of things
going for him. He's big, he can run, he has touch,
Like that's the amazing part about him. You look at him,
just you see his physical stature. You think, when people
are hyping him up, you think he's gonna have this
like powerful throw one hundred miles an hour. He's actually,

(52:25):
to me more of a touch thrower. Not that he
has a weak arm, but it feels a little goffy.
I don't know. He just has a lot of touch
on his ball. Very impressed. He's definitely the starting quarterback
next year. Why is it that coaches fall off so
hard when they get old. Obviously, when players get older,

(52:47):
their body starts to fall apart, but that's not really
a factor for coaches. For instance, what about Pete Carroll
changed in the last five years that affected his coaching ability?
Just think about humans in your life. Think about my
dad's been dead for a while, but like when they're
in their forties or their fifties, how vibrant they are.

(53:09):
And then whether it's your grandpa, whether it's your father,
whether it's just people in your life that as they
get in their sixties, definitely in their seventies, you just
slow down. You do not have the same juice. And
peak Carrol's a good example, Like he's healthy, energetic. There
is no way your pistons upstairs are firing at the
same level combined with your physical energy the same when

(53:32):
you were fifty eight years old. Like the peak Carrol
that we saw in twenty thirteen, how could he match
that in twenty twenty five, And he probably tried. He
probably in his mind thinks he's doing the best possible,
but it can't be the same. It just can't. And
the other thing I heard, I think, like comedians say this.

(53:53):
I forget who it was what I was listening to,
but it was like, that's a really good point. Like
think about Belichick in like two thousand and five, when
Belichick woke up, when that alarm went off at five
point fifteen in the morning or five thirty or five,
whenever the hell he gets up, the first thing that
crossed his mind was football. Was football, the team. How

(54:18):
he's gonna do whatever schematically or cut a guy or
acquire a guy. And he was excited to get out
of bed because he was doing football. There is no
way those guys, Pete Bill, when that alarm goes off,
their fire for football is the same. It's seventy five

(54:40):
years old, with all that money in the bank. I
just don't believe it. I don't believe especially when like
what are you? I'm not trying to prove something that
I already haven't done. So like Jim Harbaugh, for example,
Jim Harball's made a ton of money and is well
established now. Jim Harbaugh is a really good coach, but

(55:00):
he's in the NFL now, and it's like, can the
guy win the Super Bowl. So every single day when
Jim Harbaugh's alarm goes off, like I want to win
the super Bowl, Kyle Shanahan to, I want to win
the Super Bowl. A lot of these guys like I
want to be a super Bowl winner. And I just
think that that drive is something that these guys when

(55:21):
they get in their seventies, I'm sorry, they just I
don't believe they have it anymore. I don't just I've
known people that very successful, like multi millionaire business owners
that know people that work for them. They're like, yeah,
some weeks they just don't see him, or ten years ago,
it's like he was in the office every single day.
You get a little older, you get a little more perspective,

(55:42):
maybe get grandkids, Maybe you just don't care as much anymore.
It's called life. So I think it's less about like
does Pete know how to run a team meeting? Does
Pete know what defense is good against X, Y and
Z offensive goals? The same with Bill Belichick. Yes, do

(56:03):
I think those guys could talk football or Nick Saban
at seventy four years old with anybody right now? Of course,
part of the reason Nick Saban retired and clearly if
you look at him, he ain't coming back. Life's too good.
It's funny like when people go, do you ever want
to go back to the NFL? Do I ever want
to go back to the NFL? You fucking out of
your mind? No, My life's took great. Plus I didn't like.

(56:27):
The one thing I'll never forget, and this is what
Coach Reid has at the highest levels. His passion for
football and people that I know, a bunch of people
that work for the cheese, I'll never forget. After he
won his first Super Bowl, maybe it was the second
super Bowl, it would have been twenty twenty two. I
was at the combine and one of my buddies on
the staff, we were bs, and he's like, you know,

(56:49):
it's crazy. You just Coach Reed's car in the off
season Saturday at the office. He just loves it. He's
just addicted. One day maybe he won't be the same.
But as long as you have that pure addiction going,
and you know, I think there's an age limit where
I'm sorry, it's it's hard once you get over seventy.
I think I just think it is when you're going

(57:11):
against the Kevin o'connells and mcfay's and Mike McDonald's and Kyle's.
I mean, all these guys are in fifty Frabel's fifty.
They just have more energy than you. They just have
more stamina. If you're the owner of the GM of
the Buccaneers, what are you doing with Todd There's a

(57:31):
real argument, depending on the Falcons hire, that he could
be the worst head coach in the worst division in football.
He's better than Canalis, Like, you can't put Canalis above him.
Canal is called a flea flicker in the rain made
the playoffs at eighty nine. Todd Bowles, Like Todd Bowles
is a big time defensive coach. I know his defense

(57:55):
sucks now, but he knows defense. Todd Bowle is a
good coach. If there was an option for an offensive
stud I think you would fire him and hire that guy.
I just don't think that guy exists. I think if
they had a good replacement, they would fire Todd Bowles
and replace them. But I just don't think that guy exists.
So I think it's easy to say fire him, and

(58:17):
I get it if you're a Buccaneers fan, But I
just don't see who the replacement is obviously, if you
could have a redo, you would. It's clear what you
would do. Uh Liam, you're in the big room. Todd,
we love you, but you gots to go. But you
didn't do that, And now look at the options. Is

(58:50):
it a hot take to say the Bears are actually
the worst team in the NFC North. They have the
fourth place schedule. Uh No, I mean, come on, guys.
They won the division. They armed it. I this is
a bottom line business. I think that division is actually
much closer. I mean the Bears easily could have lost

(59:10):
the Packers twice. Obviously, the Lions beat him twice, they
beat Minnesota. They lost to Minnesota week one, So what
was a divisional record? Three and three? That division is tough, man.
It is the Lions. I mean, let's face it, If
the Lions play the Panthers tomorrow, who picking Lions are good?

(59:35):
If the Vikings just had decent quarterback play, like, they're
pretty good too. And obviously the Packers went healthier Super
Bowl contender. We've seen offenses run more heavy sets this season,
and it seems like more good teams have three quality
tight ends on their roster. The Rams miss Higbee for
six weeks and still at three dudes Knox Kinkaid and
Buffalo Comet in Loveland, Chicago. From a scouting draft perspective,

(59:58):
are there just more athletes that have that skill set?
Seems like there are plenty of six to five white
guys out there that can run and block. With the
amount of good players in college in the NFL will
be a devaluation of the position in terms of draft
capital needed to acquire good tight end play. I think
part of it is tight ends are a much bigger

(01:00:20):
mismatch than just your run of the mill wide receiver
because if I get Cole Kmet or Loveland, who's covering
that guy on the other team? My tight end is
six four six' five can. Run look At comet's the
two point conversion. Catch he, had the body, type the
red zone. Ability they're like basketball. Players so safeties aren't big.

(01:00:41):
Enough corners while they're fast, enough there don't weigh. Enough
it's just a physical. Mismatch so you see a lot
of these teams utilizing the tight end way more because
especially if a guy can, block it helps the run,
game and in the past game like they just can't
cover those. Guys SO i THINK i think that's. It

(01:01:03):
you just have these athletic tight ends that are six
three to six five that you can have a lot
of personnel or formation. VERSATILITY i think that's a big.
KEY i haven't looked at the draft class this year
of how many good tight ends there, are but there
are just a lot of good tight ends come in
the league over the course of the LAST i don't, know,

(01:01:24):
decade even just random Guy Ko komet's a good. Example
he's just, solid you, know you, Know, Bowers, Loveland. WARREN i,
mean like high end tight ends are coming in the.
League last night In lamar's press, conference he, SAID i
don't know what else we could do to win after
putting the season on the line with a young, Kicker

(01:01:45):
how do you think the ravens On lamar can go?
Forward especially with the other elite quarterbacks Like josh seemingly
running past. HIM i wouldn't say they were running past.
Him lamar just seen to stay on the. Field he's
one of the best players in the. LEAGUE i would
agree with. Them they had a forty five or, whatever
a forty three yard field. Goal they did everything they
could to. WIN i Saw DeAndre, Hopkins he's, like we're

(01:02:08):
three yards away from playing the. Postseason that's the thing with.
Sports you know what they say in, basketball make or miss,
league that's field. Goals guy makes, it he's a. Hero
they carry him off he misses. It people are probably
saying mean stuff to him social. MEDIA i think they
are BECAUSE i saw a post, like, yeah that's if
you don't want, that just don't be on social. Media

(01:02:29):
like you can't get the best of both. Worlds it's
got gutter rats and it's got normal people that give you,
compliments but people complaining about, like, oh the vile things like,
yeah welcome to The. INTERNET i, mean it, sucks but
you can't take the good and not get the. Bad
that's not the way it. Works that's the least shocking
thing you've ever seen that people are saying crazy things

(01:02:51):
to him and his, Wife like it's it's just the
sick thing that we call social. MEDIA i, mean it
is what it. Is so why so many people are
getting away like we're trying to figure out, again we're
a long way from, this but you, know kids with
social media and screen time and it's easy to say without,
it you know before you have. One but it's a

(01:03:12):
major conversation for a lot of you, know, parents because
of just HOW i, Mean i've lived through, it my
business is through. It it just can. Be it has great,
benefits but it can be really really. Ugly AND i
think social media can create things like The lamar, discussion
like is he really like on the trading? Block was
that a real thing or is that just conversation that

(01:03:35):
kind of grows on The internet and it's not real at.
All AND i think There's John harbut's getting fired Before
Lamar jackson's getting. TRADED i think The ravens end of the,
day they're one of the best drafting teams in the,
league have been for a long. Time they're a well run.
Organization they're not going. Anywhere i'd bet on The ravens
way BEFORE i bet on The. Bengals it's About Pete

(01:03:58):
carroll coaching in college. Again that ship Sailed. Pete pete's.
Done pete needs to just just be, rich, retire live
like probably it's over give it. Up easy for me
to say in like the prime of my. Career but
If i'm holding on AND i suck at seventy five
AND i have enough money to do WHATEVER i, want
that's on, Me Like i'm a. Loser pie's not a.

(01:04:24):
Loser but it's just, like, well just let, go just go.
CHILL nfl. Teams the other, Thing pete's big advantage AT
usc back in the, day it's like they could land
a player with twenty grand in a. Car those days are,
done even THOUGH usc spending a lot of money right
now to buy. PLAYERS nfl teams need to Give Kirk

(01:04:46):
cousins a big thank you for going five and three
and beating The, rams because can we imagine what would
happen If sean McVeigh got ahold of a top five.
PICK i saw that, today what it, is thirteenth. Pick
it's still pretty good. Pick you, KNOW i think The
rams would have done. That they got, first just in
the tight end who clearly McVeigh likes a lot in
the thirteenth. Pick that's that's a pretty good. Trade it
looked like it was gonna be really. Good like at

(01:05:09):
one point in, time, like are they gonna have the
fourth pick in the? Draft? Uh, clearly you Just Bejon.
Robinson their defense are too, good but they still got
a pretty good. Pick and the other thing with The
chiefs at nine and The rams at, thirteen if those
teams want to put their nuts on the, table they
can go what about next year's one and move up
and get someone, sweet like do the rams have bain

(01:05:30):
to go with? Verse next? Year listening for a couple of.
Years i'm going to The phoenetian with some buddies in
a couple of weeks for some golf and relaxation with
high end restaurants and. Steakhouse would you recommend we check
out in the? Area what bars would you suggest for
your mid to late, twenties well as my, Wife i've
never been there in my, life but it's called The

(01:05:51):
circle Of, death which is where all the clubs are
In Old Town, scottsdale which for you younger folks can be
a lot of. Fun Uh, so just go to Old.
Town the bars there pretty hard to. Miss if you
want to go to high end, steakhouses it's hard to
beat Mass. ROS i think Mass ros is about as
good as it. Gets The missions kind of a, cool

(01:06:11):
nicer restaurant down in The Old town. AREA i was
a sucker For. Houston's you're probably a little young for.
That that won't be as. Fun that's probably a little older.
Crowd that's the place where biz the hockey guy that
works FOR tnt and barstool fought off those like ten.
Irishmen it was like MY i used to live right

(01:06:32):
down the street from there In Paradise. Valley houston's has elite.
FOOD i had never even heard Of houston's TILL i moved,
here AND i could have eaten there like five nights a.
Week But i'm also one of those eaters like this
is what my wife. Likes all these different foods and
one night's, chicken one night's. Salad LIKE i could Eat

(01:06:53):
chipotle five nights a. Week ONCE i find like a
good you, know taco salad or Whatever i'm trying to be,
HELD i eat that every single, night over and. OVER
i just go. Back it's Like i'm like AN nfl
offense like off tackles work and caught again again. Again
i'm like Her brooks In Miracle. AGAIN i could eat

(01:07:14):
the SAME i could literally eat the same meal in
a month twenty five, days you, know like an individual,
dinner and have be totally. Unfazed it's, like well we
had chicken last, Night let's go fish and. Salad it's,
like let's go. Pasta Like i've never done that UNTIL
i GUESS i got domesticated and, civilized and NOW i

(01:07:35):
eat like seven different meals a. Week the other, thing
for you single guys out, there when you order food
or go pick up, food it's a lot cheaper when
it's just. You i'll say that. Much for those of
you with big, families you, know it's Like i've started, thinking,
like what IF i have a couple, kids and when
they're like ten and, twelve especially they're, boys it's, like

(01:07:57):
how many pizzas you gotta? ORDER i think back WHEN
i was, young things are so much cheaper back. Then,
okay couple. MORE i think we got confirmation about who
the problem is In philly after yesterday's. Game how can
the starters and the backups score seventeen? Points seems like
THE oc is the, problem not Strictly jalen aj THE
o line Or. Sirianni if we struggle against the forty nine,
ers do we? Well howie And jeffrey finally get rid Of.

(01:08:19):
PETULA i love How, howie and rightfully so is like
he's always right there with the, owner you, know like
when you talk about The, cowboys you're, like, Uh jerry
with The, Eagles Like howie And. Jeffrey it's like they're a.
Tandem if they were to lose to the forty nine,
ers he's one hundred percent. Fired he's Fired monday. Morning
it would be so faster your. Head we'll spend The.

(01:08:40):
EAGLES i think of all the, TEAMS i might do
this For, FRIDAY i don't think any team has more
pressure on them to win the game Than. PHILLY i
actually don't even think it's close because of the disadvantage
the forty nine. Ers they don't have, players so and
This eagles, team, like why can't we win THE? Nfc

(01:09:02):
why can't we go back to? Back that's what they
got to be. THINKING i think there's a lot of
pressure on The. Eagles their defense is gonna be, fine
but offensively if you can't score, points And washington's probably
as shitty as the forty nine ers on. Defense to,
me The, eagles especially if it's not, raining if it's just,
cold the minimum should be like twenty five twenty six points.

(01:09:26):
MINIMUM i think you should be able to get thirty
against The. Niners that's what was crazy About. Seattle that's
why the game felt like such a Blood it felt
like thirty three missed a couple of field. Goals they
went forward on a fourth down at the one yard.
LINE i mean it easily could have been ten more.
Point it could have been twenty six to. Three that's
what the game felt. Like, hey last, question you said

(01:09:49):
about a month ago that If mahomes disappeared That andy
would be. Fine after seeing them Without, mahomes do you
still Believe Josh allen is the best player in THE
Nfl WHEN i Say andy would be if he, disappeared
they could find another quarterback in an. Offseason obviously in
the middle of the. Season If mahomes, disappears you are.

(01:10:10):
Fucked if you are a team Like Josh, Allen Lamar,
jackson those type teams AND i remove your starting, quarterback
you're in major. Trouble Herbert Drake may the drop off
Is stafford is gonna be catastrophic IF i give you
an offseason to find someone capable with a good offensive.
Coach look At Shane Sichin Took Daniel jones are winning

(01:10:31):
games Till Daniel jones' body fell. Apart they were. Fine Kyle,
shanahan Like Mac, JONES i can just win games With Mac.
Jones kevin, O'Connell Sam, Donald you, know so you don't
Think Andy reid would just Sign Sam donald if he
didn't have a quarterback or something like. That, yeah that
was my point where other coaches like that's where the

(01:10:53):
knock on the defensive guys like Can Mike tomlin say the?
Same Could Dan quinn say the? Same Could John harbaugh
say the? Same John harbaugh was about to get fired
until they bench flack one With lamar if someone else
had Drafted Lamar, jackson because remember they took a guy
ahead Of Lamar, Jackson Hayden, HURST i, think and they

(01:11:13):
just drafted some random, Quarterback John harball would not be
all the ravens. Now Lamar jackson Saved John harbaugh's raven.
Career now he would have got another, job for. Sure
but my point is that certain, coaches if they just
had no quarterback in an, OFFSEASON i think they could
figure it out and find just some credibility. There, now

(01:11:36):
obviously the guy wouldn't be as good As, mahomes but
and he's proven. It he's won games with all sorts
of quarterbacks over the. Years that was my. Point and
DO i Believe Josh allen's the best player in THE
nfl in twenty twenty. FIVE i. Do, Obviously Patrick mahomes
at times been the best. Player Lamar jackson's been the best.
PLAYER i was thinking, like who was the best player

(01:12:00):
in THE nfl this year because there's been a lot of,
arguments AND i don't really have a strong opinion on THE.
MVP i don't really, care especially in a year like,
this could you make the argument That pooka And akua
was THE mvp the. LEAGUE i feel Like Pooka nakula
was the best PLAYER i watched in THE nfl start to.
Finish it feels Like stafford's gonna win. It Maybe drake.
MAYWINS i don't, know BUT i feel like Pokin akua

(01:12:22):
is THE mvp the. LEAGUE i feel like he's best
player in the. LEAGUE i feel like this year he.
Dominated it wasn't even a fair Fight Jackson. SMITH i
mean there were times where we thought, like is this
the best player in the. League that's the thing with THE,
mvp it's like The. Heisman we don't even talk about
Other it's got to be a. Quarterback just got to
be a, quarterback which we all agree quarterback is the
most important. Position BUT i don't, know can any other

(01:12:47):
position win the? Award can any other position just be
in the conversation to win the? Award why does no
one even talk, about, like Could pucka win the? Award
it doesn't even come. Up it's not even a. Conversation it's, like,
oh it's just one of the. QUARTERBACKS i guess it
is what it. Is the VOLUME m

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