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January 2, 2025 25 mins

John opens the new year with a big mailbag show. John answers all of your questions on the College Football Playoffs, where should Cam Skattebo go in the draft, should Dan Quinn be coach of the year, and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. What is going on everybody? How are we doing?
I'm excited because we're gonna do a little mail bag today.

(00:23):
Just watched the Rose Bowl. Obviously Ohio State dominated, and
I went on with Colin. We recorded actually a halftime
of that game. That's what we do when they're down
thirty four to nothing. So we did a little look
back at some of the college games. I was gonna
do something today with Jackson, but they moved back the
other game. Hopefully they still play it. We'll find out
in the next twenty four hours. Notre Dame Georgia, so

(00:45):
we'll do that tomorrow, react to that game. So today
I thought, let's just do a mail because I wanted
to get something up, So let's do a mail bag.
Your boy was really hurting yesterday during the day. I've
had back to back My IV lady has come over twice,
and honestly, it might have saved my life because I
was not literally but I was in pretty bad shape

(01:05):
and gotten back to back ivs. I've never done that before,
and it's worked, and it's worked wonders and now I
feel like I'm on the men. Just still heads a
little stuffy, but my body I couldn't keep my eyes open.
I was sleeping like twenty hours a day. It's like
a dog or a cat. But now I'm alive and
you need to talk a little football and twenty twenty five,
so happy New Year, and yeah, let's talk some ball.

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(02:14):
let's dive into the mailbag. We'll start with Kellen John,
what are your thoughts on the potential Chargers versus Chiefs
Divisional round game assuming the Chargers get the five seat
and beat the Texans. As a Chargers fan, I am
hungry for another shot at KC, and we have a
better chance of winning in Kansas City, then we would

(02:39):
be going on the road to Buffalo or Baltimore because
the style of teams, we always play them close, but
have lost seven times in a row. We gotta get
them eventually. I do think Kansas City would much rather
play like the Texans at home or the Steelers at home,
then not just the Charger but Denver as well, because

(03:02):
those two teams, if you look at their potential opponents, right,
they can't play Buffalo and they can't play Baltimore, but
they could play basically Kansas or Houston Texans on down,
they could play any of those teams. And if somehow
Pittsburgh were upset Baltimore and Denver, let's say upsets, I
guess they probably wouldn't upset Buffalo. But the Chargers, Yeah,

(03:25):
I mean, I think it's just gonna be tough. I
think more than likely, especially the way the Chiefs have
played these last couple of weeks, it looks like they
flipped a switch. But sometimes when you flip a switch,
you get the momentum rolling. Then you just stop playing.
Because this week they're going with Carson Wentz, which obviously
I don't I don't blame them at all for going
with their back, you know, the backup quarterback. But then
you're not gonna play another week. So which they're a

(03:48):
veteran team, it's it's the right move. But whoever they
would be to play, especially if it is the Chargers,
which I guess now I talk it out's much more
likely than the Broncos. But I do think that the
Chargers would have moment. You know, they've just been playing, right,
They won last week, they'll win again this week, and
then they'll if they beat the Texans. They've just been

(04:10):
playing a lot of football now, like there'll be a
seven point underdog. I don't think the Chiefs were thinking
too long and hard about it's the playoffs. They gotta
play hard teams. I mean, last year they went on
the road and they beat Buffalo in the second round.
But I do think they would just be more susceptible
to the two divisional teams than they would be the
Steelers of the Texans. I would be much more nervous

(04:34):
if I was a Chiefs fan playing the Broncos or
playing the Chargers, especially now with Harbaugh and Sean Payton,
than I would playing Mike Tomlin or the Texans team
Like I would expect to beat the shit out of
those two, but the other two, I could just see
where it could get weird. Why is it so rare
for gms to be rehired after losing their first job,

(04:58):
especially if I'm a bad organ I'd much rather go
with a guy like Rick Spielman, Thomas Demetrov or John
Dorsey that has shown they can put together a good
roster rather than taking a chance on an unproven GM.
Curious to hear your thoughts. I don't know. I mean,
I was told a long time ago by a buddy
of mine who was a fired GM. He said, John,

(05:21):
we don't get second chances, not like coaches. And I
don't know how why to define that, But there's something
with a retread coach, right like Mike Vrabel's technically a retread,
but no one looks at him like a failure or
someone that you wouldn't want to hire. If Pete Carroll
and Bill Belichick were sixty five instead of seventy two,

(05:42):
they would have easily been rehired. So I think part
of it is sometimes you look for the next best thing.
Sometimes you maybe that guy is more tied to your money.
And when a guy gets fired, he makes financial des
decisions for the owner. So there's more of a stink

(06:03):
that carries with him. I'm just speaking out. I don't know,
I'm just trying to. I have no clue. Because every GM,
the good ones and the bad ones make bad you know,
miss on picks, rite or sign bad free agents. I
don't know. I can't not sure why that happens, but
it clearly happens. By his performance in the Peach Bowl.

(06:24):
Did Skataboo boost his draft stock to the first round.
He reminds me of a five to eleven Peyton Hillis.
I don't think Skataboo will be a first round pick.
I think he will be a second day selection. One
thing I think that's gonna hurt him, and I can
see this coming is and this is stupid, because this

(06:46):
is what happens when we get to draft season. He's
gonna go to the combine and I would imagine he's
not gonna run that fast. Let's just say he runs
a four to seven. I hope he doesn't, but let's
just say he runs a four to seven. Oh, that
won't be ideal for his draft stock. He'd be like
middle cooff, what are you talking about? I'm like, listen,
I don't make the rules. These are just the rules, right.

(07:08):
Anyone who's ever shot for houses knows there are certain
things in a house when it comes to square footage.
The amount of bathrooms, the amount of bedrooms, size of
the kitchen, the size of the backyard, how many car
garage that factor into the market value of the home,
no different than a car has ever been in a wreck,
how many miles on it, what year is it, what
model is it? Like, these things factor in well runs great,

(07:30):
You're gonna love living there. It doesn't matter because this
is a market value exercise of where you get drafted.
So if you run slow, that will knock him down
a little bit. But anyone with a brain, if you
watch him, that guy's a football player, and a really
good football player, and running back is one of those
positions more than most where instincts and feel for the

(07:54):
position are stuff that separates guys, and if you have
elite physical attribute, it's like, you know, Adrian Peterson is
one of the most physically gifted running backs of all time.
It didn't really matter that he couldn't catch her. Ironically,
for a size and strength, wouldn't pass block. But he
was such a good runner it didn't matter. Most other
guys you get nitpicked. And to me, Skataboo is just

(08:18):
I mean, he's just, He's just a ballplayer. And to me,
he's got Jim Harbaugh written all over them. I feel
like Jim Harbaugh is gonna love that guy. If John
Gruden was coaching, I feel like John Gruden would have
loved that guy. I'll tell you who's gonna like that guy.
Andy Reid is gonna like that guy. Why did early
in the season Carson Steel get some reps because Andy
Reid loved that guy from washing him play at the

(08:39):
MAC two years ago. If you think Andy Reid is
not gonna like Skataboo, like I useduld be crazy. Now
they're not gonna take him in the first round, but
would they take him at the end of the second round,
you know, pick sixty two. I just it's there are
a lot of guys in this draft. They're gonna be
NFL starters at running back, which I think can hurt

(08:59):
Skataboo a little bit. My guess is he goes somewhere
between fifty and seventy, just based on not knowing anything.
I'm assuming high character, you know, all that stuff checks off.
Never heard anything bad but his forty speed, which is
stupid because there's a running back, Like, how many forty
yard runs are you gonna have? You know, Saquans and

(09:21):
Derrick Henry are pretty rare guys that are long, you know,
breakout guys that have sixty seventy eighty yard runs. If
you're getting me twenty thirty yard runs, that's all I need.
But I do wonder if that's gonna hurt him a
little bit. But today was fucking awesome. How much fun
was watching Skataboo just carrie his team in that game.

(09:42):
I think same about Genty. I feel like I learned
more watching Genty in Scataboo play against Penn State in
Texas than I did in a lot of their games
when they went nuts against lesser opponents because they were
facing NFL fronts and they just willed their way to
yards and they just it was just like this is awesome.

(10:04):
This is football right here. Question for the podcast do
you think Ohio State lost to Michigan on purpose? Like
was it a strategic loss to not have to play
in the conference championship game? Watching them play in Tennessee
and now against Oregon seems like some sandbag playing calling

(10:24):
might have been possible. Obviously, you're better off in a
weird way not playing the conference championship game if you lose.
If you lose that conference championship game, it's just you
got to play the extra game and then you still
make the playoffs, like Penn State, So you're just playing
extra games on your body. And you look at Penn State,
I mean, their best player, Carter, and it's now banged up.

(10:45):
Hopefully he's healthy. But I do not think they try
to lose that game, because the way Ryan Day talked
about it, the way they're players Attech now, the way
you're saying, you know, the players might not have to
be involved in a sandbag but the way they attacked
everyone after the game, I think it's pretty fair to
assume that they just had a bad game. Watching Michigan's

(11:11):
defense against Alabama, now, these Bowl games. I don't put
that much stock into partly because some of these games,
I mean, you have ten, fifteen to twenty guys opting out,
some of them to the transfer portal, some of them
to the NFL draft. I mean A and M had
a USC beat tex A and M. Google how many
guys from TEXA and M did not play in that game.

(11:34):
So I think it's hard to put a value a
draft on a bowl game. Who won, who lost, who
plays well, who doesn't. But I do think Ohio State
clearly tried to win that game, and they just played
their worst game of the season. And one thing is
pretty clear watching Ohio State these last couple of weeks
is I just had a buddy that scouts in the

(11:56):
NFL say he thinks Jeremiah Smith's the best college of
wide receiver he's ever seen. I mean, when God made
that guy, it's like this, That's what an NFL player
looks like. I tell you that much, Mailbag. There's been
a lot of talk about the flaws of the college
football this year, mainly focused on the fact that twelve
teams that are in are not the true, actual twelve

(12:18):
best teams in the country, and that it's not possible
to get an accurate gauge on who the best twelve
teams are because the schedule difficulty vary so much in
college football. One fix I've thought of is this they
reduce both the number of conference games each team plays
and put a set list of teams eligible for the

(12:39):
College FOOTBA playoffs. This list would include all Power four teams,
Notre Dame, and maybe a few non P four teams,
but I'd be fine with leaving the non P four
teams out altogether. That's a problem. Let me stop you
right there. The reason they had to include them is
so like the Mountain West wouldn't sue, so you have

(13:00):
to include them. That's the reason they're in now. Boise
showed like they're clearly a top fifteen team in the country,
but they have to include like to give them an
invite to the Dancer, they would get sued. Each of
these teams will only play four conference games, and the
other eight games would be played against other Power four
teams outside of the conference. The primary goal for scheduling

(13:23):
would be to even out the scheduling difficulty, so the
gap between the easiest and harder schedules is as small
as possible, making a ten and two Big Twelfth record
worth the same as a ten and twelve record. Thoughts
one more thing. Each team could be given the right
to pick two opponents each year so they can maintain
certain rivalries. So Ohio State could be guaranteed to play

(13:44):
Michigan and Penn State each year, and Bama could be
guaranteed to play Auburn or Georgia or same for everyone
else EAC. I think the pushback would be the SEC
says what we do together is financially worth more than
the other conferences. So when you get to play us
like our television deal and the SEC games are worth

(14:05):
the most right now in the country, so meaning our properties,
Like when all miss plays Georgia or Alabama plays LSU,
those games are the most valuable throughout the course of
the season, and the Big Ten is second. So when
we split up those matchups, we neutralize or not even
we diminish our earning power. So when we let Penn

(14:28):
State play Utah and this is not a shot at Utah,
I love Utah's program, or we let Alabama play North Carolina,
we are giving you free money. And that's where I
think this is difficult, is all these conferences are like
independent entities, so it's just fucked up. I hear what

(14:54):
you're doing, and your heart's in the right place. But
the SEC would never agree to that, The Big Ten
would never agree to that. The Big twelve might, but
those two conferences would not. I think I heard McShay
or someone say within the last couple of weeks that
what is going to happen is the college football playoff

(15:17):
buys are going to turn out to be the Big
Ten winner gets a buy, the SEC winner gets a buy,
and then you just pick the other two teams to
get to buy who you think are the best two teams.
It's like, because the SEC and the Big ten have
all the power, and they're going to start yielding their power,
so the SEC. What I think should happen is every

(15:40):
conference should play nine conference games, even ten conference games,
and then your other two conference games are against other
two big you know, So if you're an SEC team,
you play nine conference games and then your other three
opponents are from the Big twelve or the ACC, And
the Big Ten does the same thing. The Big Ten

(16:01):
plays nine conference games and their other three opponents are
from the ACC or the Big Ten or the Big
twelve and it kind of rotates that way. That's how
I think I would do it, but I wouldn't take
away from Big ten or SEC games.

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Speaker 1 (17:57):
Quit it for the mailbag. Why is it dam Quinn
gaining any momentum for Coach of the Year. He took
the second worst team in the NFL to an eleven
win team and not a ton of talent, something this
team has not accomplished in over twenty years. I think
the Coach of the Year is a little like the MVP,

(18:19):
that the momentum and the narrative starts early and then
it's hard to slow it down. Like Kevin O'Connell, people
were all in on that early and then they never
really pivoted. It's like what he's done is awesome, and
obviously if he beats the Lions, I got no issue
with him winning the award. But they were making a
playoff push last year before Kirk Cousins tore his achilles.

(18:41):
They won like twelve or thirteen games two years ago.
So like his team's been good with a lot of
these same players. Not trying to diminish anything he's doing.
I would say the same Dan Quinn and Jim Harbaugh.
Dan Quinn's team drafted second, Jim harboss team drafted fifth.
They were dogshit. If it was comeback Player of the Year,

(19:03):
but it was for Coach of the Year, it'd be
between those two guys. Now, I think that Kevin O'Connell
thinks pretty easy. They were not good last year. But yeah,
I don't know. I just there's just no overcoming that momentum.
I think, what Dan Campbell. If Dan Campbell wins this game,
I think he has to win it because of how
many injuries they've had. Got a question for the mailback.

(19:24):
Over the past year, we saw a running back market
changed dramatically Beginning twenty twenty four, with no one wanting
to pay running backs big money to running backs being
recognized again as essential for team's success despite it being
a passing heavy league. Do you believe this season running
backs are being highly valued again is directly connected to

(19:46):
having a franchise quarterback. During the past few seasons, we
saw teams find their franchise quarterback, and now the good
portion has theirs. It seems as if now the running
back in those teams are gaining or having career years. Also,
if you do agree, do you think teams should focus
more on paying big contracts to a dynamic receiver in

(20:06):
quarterback duo or a consistent running back in quarterback duo?
I think I would rather have one of the star
running backs, like I'd rather have you know, Gibbs on
a rookie contract. But let's you Saque who makes thirteen
twelve million dollars a year and a solid wide receiver

(20:29):
than a thirty million dollar wide receiver and a fifty
million dollar quarterback and just random running backs. Now, Jefferson's
a bad example because he's the best, but let's just
use non like Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase. I think
you could make a legit argument. Would you rather have

(20:50):
Jamier Gibbs, you know, Saquon Barkley, Derrick Henry. It depends
how good your offensive line is, in what style quarterback
you have, But I don't know. The more I think
about it, I was like, I'd rather have Justin Jefferson,
would rather have Jamar Chase. You know, if you're an
Eagles fan right now, would you rather have Saquon or

(21:10):
just a middle tier running back? Or AJ Brown or
a middle tier wide receiver if you could only keep
one of the two guys. The good part the argument
for you guys like we got them both. But I'm
just saying, big picture, if next year you could only
keep AJ Brown or Saquon Barkley, I think it's a
hard discussion. I think it would. It varies player to player.

(21:31):
The reality is you don't really have to make that
decision because the cost of running backs is so low,
Like it's linebackers, tight ends and running backs are all
under on average, fifteen million dollars a year, so you're
basically paying. And you could argue, like, if you're Saquon,
I'm not a twenty five million dollar player this year,

(21:51):
you do get kind of screwed. If Demo stays with
the Niners next season, why not fully transition him to
running back? Ego seems like he could be mcaffe like, well,
I think they've kind of transitioned him a little this year.
They've put him at kickoff returner, which is not nothing
like it. Maybe he liked he did it in college
and he's good at it, but like how many players

(22:15):
you know, they wouldn't put Jamar Chase back there, even
though Jamar Chase is probably freaking awesome at it, they
wouldn't put you know, think of some wide receivers you
could put back there that would be good. Now, Debos
a unique, but I think they're already transitioning him a
little bit. You draft Ricky piersall Au comes back, I
think his role will just go back to more of

(22:36):
that hybrid mold because he's not a true just wide receiver.
That's not where he's at his best. He's at his
best getting touches behind the line of scrimmage, whether that's
passes or rushes, and obviously kickoff returnery's really good at.
So this is the Alabama you said deserve to be
in the playoffs because they have more talent. Alabama was
a twenty two and a half point favorite over Vanderbilt,

(22:57):
a fourteen point favorite over Oklahoma, and a six teen
and a half point favorite over Michigan. Yeah, bro, they lost.
I don't want to tell you every time Caitlin Dubora loses.
OSU fans gotta let you know. As a dedicated to
Seahawks fan, I'm eager to see how our team rise
to the next level. The quarterback position is crucial and
curious about your thoughts on the best pass forward? Do

(23:18):
you believe Geno Smith is a long term answer for us?
He had notable success, including leading the league and completion
percentage in twenty two and earning Pro Bowl selections in
twenty two and twenty three. Alternatively, should we consider drafting
a new quarterback to develop in the future. Some analysts
suggest the Seahawks might be sleepers to draft a quarterback

(23:41):
even would Gino set a return in twenty four or
is exploring a trade for someone like Kyler Murray a
viable option? If Arizona would be willing to trade you
Kyler Murray inside the division, I think that's a pretty
big red flag. I would not say that's an option,
but maybe Ryan Grubb would like to work with them.
I would keep Geno before I traded for Kyler Murray.

(24:03):
I think the best option would be, you know, I
would sign Sam Donald. I would take Sam Donald over Gino, Younger,
similar skill set, I think, just better player or has
a chance. I mean, Geno's this year has been a
little all over the place, but he's a solid player.
I do think Gino, the type guy he is, is
a pretty good bridge quarterback if you drafted a young guy.

(24:24):
It's why I thought Michael Pennix made a lot of
sense for you guys. Obviously, you know he got drafted
way higher than when you guys picked, But don't I
don't really know who there is a draft. I just
don't think that guy's really there. So I just think
Gino is not your long term future, but he's just
kind of your guy for now. He's just your best

(24:44):
case scenario of just having a guy to fill that void.
And it sucks kind of being in quarterback purgatory, but
that's kind of where you are. You're in quarterback purgatory. Luckily,
your team's still solid and you're competing to win, you know,
nine ten games. It could be worse, It really could
you could be one of those shitty three to four
win teams, but you're winning nine ten games and you're

(25:06):
just in position, and you know your general manager is
aggressive and if there's a chance to pounce, he will.
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