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November 6, 2025 63 mins

On this episode of 3 & Out with John Middlekauff, John takes a look at Matt LaFleur’s future in Green Bay and what’s next for the Packers after another disappointing game. He breaks down how Jerry Jones approached the trade deadline and whether the moves he made are what's best for the Cowboys. Plus, John reacts to Kyler Murray heading to IR and shares his thoughts on Drew Brees’ new role calling games for FOX.

Finally, John answers your questions in this episode's mailbag segment.

03:59 - The future of LaFleur in GB

10:35 - Jerry Jones and the trade deadline

20:29 - Kyle murray to the IR

23:30 - Kirk Cousins and his future

27:20 - Dress Brees goes to FOX

31:28 - Tom Brady clones his dog

44:48 - Mailbag

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. What is going on? Everybody? John Middlecoff three
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(00:23):
Big show coming up. I saw an interesting stat today
on Jordan Love that I think is going to put
even more pressure on Matt Lafleur and this big picture
question like is he going to be the long term
coach of the Green Bay Packers. He's essentially in a
contract year. Him and Gudakins did not get their contract
extended after this year, he will only have one left

(00:45):
and most people onlike Mike McCarthy, do not operate his
lame duck guys. Some thoughts on Jerry Jones and the
trade deadline. Kirk Cousins, it's official now he's earned two years,
ninety million dollars. So we'll dive in up. We'll just
do some rapid fire stuff. Kyler Murray, Drew Brees is
going to TV now replacing Sanchez. Tom Brady cloned his dog.

(01:05):
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at checkout. I didn't realize there was so much pressure
on Matt Lafleur from this fan base. I just would
have guessed coming into this year it was pretty highly respected,
I would say universally liked. And then you drop a

(02:11):
game as a big favorite to the Browns, you tie
the Cowboys, and then you drop that Carolina game at home,
and people start asking some serious questions and most people
are not Mike McCarthy. They're not going to coach a
lame duck season. Even though college and the NFL is
a lot different. There's no recruiting, so technically they could
run him back next year on a one year deal.

(02:31):
Typically that does not happen. And I think when you
look at the green Bay Packers one, if the job
became available, it's one of the best jobs in the
world when it comes to sports. I'm talking international soccer obviously, baseball, basketball, football,
or hockey. Here it doesn't get much better than being
the head coach of the Green Bay Packers. It's a
very stable organization, which is a lot of good players

(02:53):
and clearly a well run front office that has lasted
the test of time from the nineties since Ron Wolf
got there. It has basically streamlined through Ted Thompson now
to Goodikins. They all are interconnected because they've all worked
for each other. And I saw stat today that made
me go, God, this is I kind of understand what
they're saying. And he gets credit for this, but this

(03:15):
also puts you in a position where the heat is
on and I didn't do a very good job of
singing that song, but the stat was this is the
list of quarterbacks that have ten thousand yards, seventy touchdowns,
and less than thirty interceptions in their first fifty games,
so through about two and a half years of their

(03:36):
early career. This is the list of guys who have
played pretty well. Patrick Mahomes obviously one of the greatest
players of all time, Russell Wilson Hall of Fame start
to his career in Seattle, Dak Prescott, who drives a
lot of us nuts but obviously he's had some really
really good years and really started fast, and Jordan Love

(03:58):
and started thinking like I'd remove Mahomes from that list.
He's clearly an outlier. But when you look at the
other two guys like Russell Wilson in the peak of
his powers, was getting Pete Carroll contract extensions and they
were competing for Super Bowls. Dak Prescott, on the flip side,
kind of underwhelmed in some big games and essentially he

(04:19):
was an older version. But let's face it, Mike McCarthy
got fired because Dak Prescott did not play well in
the playoffs at all. Played bad against the forty nine
ers four years ago, played bad again against the forty
nine ers the following year, and obviously was horrendous with
the rest of the team against the Green Bay Packers
two years ago. But when you are in a situation

(04:39):
with a quarterback who is producing and your team is
gonna go to the playoffs, your health do a pretty
high standard, and that quarterback actually makes it more like
people questioning your ability because you go, oh, this guy's
pretty solid, and clearly the talent around him is good
and their defense is good, which has kind of always

(04:59):
been a outfall of the Green Bay Packers. So when
I go, well, is Matt Vilafloor gonna get extended, I'd
say he better win some playoff games, because I do
think there's a chance that you could question. It's kind
of like the James Franklin thing. James Franklin did not
get fired because he lost to Oregon. He did not
get fired because he lost to Ohio State. He got

(05:19):
fired the moment he started losing the UCLA at Northwestern.
It's like, listen, if you lose in the second round,
like last year, Sean McVay going toe to toe with
the Philadelphia Eagles. He lost. That actually was like a
notch on his belt. It was really impressive. It'll be
something these last couple of years. Sean McVay may never
win the Super Bowl again. I don't know. Maybe he'll

(05:40):
win two more, but those two years where he's rattled
off back to back ten win seasons and had playoff
teams has been pretty impressive. You know, Kyle Shanahan is
not going to make the super Bowl this year, and
if he does make the playoffs, he'll probably get kurb
stomped in the first round. But just making the playoffs
with a bunch of randos is a big deal. Now.

(06:02):
Part of it for Matt Leafloor, it goes what is
your ceiling and your ceiling because and it could be
the quarterback. Where is Jordan Love gonna fall? Is he
Dak Prescott? Like how's he gonna play in the playoffs?
But ultimately he's gonna determine Matt Laflour's fate. Obviously, Matt
Laflour has some control over that because he's calling the plays.
But like he's not telling Jordan Love to throw across

(06:22):
his body in the red zone right to a Carolina
defender like that. I'm sure he's not giving him the
thumbs up on that, and I think he's just it's
gonna come down to, is this young guy the version
of Russell Wilson who was making all these crazy plays
and obviously doing well in the playoffs, or is it
gonna be a Dak Prescott situation where it just underwhelms. Now,

(06:43):
if I remember correctly, Dak Prescott his rookie season, when
he played the Green Bay Packers in the second round
when I think they were the one seed, actually played
pretty well. They lost the game, but it was because
their defense got shredded. But ultimately Jason Garrett got fired.
And I just think that when it comes to this

(07:03):
Packer situation, I think in a perfect world, they would
love to just even if they don't make the Super Bowl,
be the NFC Championship game, extend everybody and just keep
this thing rolling. Sometimes that doesn't happen. And when you
lose games like you do against Carolina and Cleveland, it's
hard to trust you as a team. And they're playing
the Philadelphia Eagles this week on Monday Night Football. There

(07:24):
are gonna be a lot of eyeballs on that game.
And here's the thing about the Green Packers. They get
up for the big games, right, at least they have
this season. It's gonna be like, well, what happens when
they play the Bears, what happens when they play JJ
McCarthy in the Minnesota Vikings? Who might be out of
it by then, right because they have some tough games
on their schedule. They still got to go to Detroit
to Denver. You know, what does Baltimore look like when

(07:46):
they play them later? So I just think that this
situation for Matt Lafleur is something that I would have
told you you were crazy, you know, six months ago
that his job was in jeopardy. Better win. You don't
have to win the super Bowl, you don't have to
win the NFC, But I do think you gotta show
out in the playoffs. You can't have a situation like

(08:07):
last year where it was just that first round game
was an embarrassment. You know, if it wasn't for Josh Jacobs,
who played his ass off, there would have been a
bigger negative stink coming into the season. And if he
has another one of those, I think his job would
be in major jeopardy. Okay, Jerry Jones, I was thinking
about this because I didn't mind the trade. I do

(08:30):
understand the argument of like team's going nowhere, like acquiring
Quinn Williams, who is a good player, and immediately their
best player on defense, Like it's not bad business. And
over the next the course of this season and then
next year, all you're giving up during that period of
time is your second rounder. Now in twenty twenty seven,
you are giving up a first rounder, which is the

(08:52):
best version of yours or Green Bay. So even if
you're decent, what if green Bay, I mean, what if
Jordan love reks his ankle and their backup quarterbacks and shambles.
Maybe they have a new coach and they won six games,
and that's pick seven. So you just never know. But
I was thinking about Jerry Jones, who is eighty three,
who just turned eighty three, When that twenty twenty seven

(09:15):
first rounder has played a month Jerry's birthdays in October,
a month in the NFL, Jerry will be eighty five
years old. And if you think about it like this,
if I gave you ten million dollars, if you just
handed me ten million dollars right now, at forty years old,
I'd have a lot of options. I probably would try
to make some long term place right, invest in the

(09:36):
stock market, invest in property, maybe buy a second home
for my family. I don't know, but I would think
big picture. Right. If you just handed me ten million
dollars and I was eighty years old, I probably would
operate a little bit differently, right, I'd be like, well,
who knows how much longer I have? Whoever is still alive. Hey,
I'm gonna charter a plane and let's go to Hawaii.

(10:00):
Let's go do something fun. Right, who knows how much longer?
This ten million dollars doesn't come with me to the grave.
It's not really how it works. You've never seen Walls
Fargo or Bank of America falling or Hurst. Not the
way it works. So I do think when you're Jerry,
and this is because most gms and most younger owners
I think in that situation just would not because you

(10:20):
could argue this Quinn Williams trade would have still been
there in six months, right in February, at the combine
leading up to free agency. But here's the problem. Jerry's
not thinking about five years from now. He's eighty three
years old. And while I do think if they hit
on some picks next year, they still have two first
rounders and free agency, if they sign a couple of

(10:43):
good players. Their team could be better right on defense,
because we know offensively they're gonna have pieces and they're
gonna be fine. But I think a lot of people
questioning is like, why would the Cowboys do that? Because
Jerry looks at that twenty twenty seven first rounder like
there might be a fifty fifty chance I'm six feet under.
I'm not even around now. That's not the healthiest way

(11:05):
to run a franchise. But like, I do kind of
get it, and I do think their logic and mindset
on it changed when their GM is eighty three years old.
No other team would employ a GM, probably even close
to seventy let alone in his eighties. So the Cowboys
are just a different operation. And you know, Quinn Williams,

(11:26):
I saw some quotes today saying, listen, the Jets knew
I was frustrated with losing. It's like, well, I don't
know how many games you're gonna win this year with Dallas,
but probably won't be that many more than the Jets.
But hey, you know, based on New York state income
taxes and Jersey and Mondami raising that shit, you're gonna
save some cash. But I will say this, Jerry's living

(11:48):
in the moment. You know, Jerry's living in the moment,
and that's why we talked about this yesterday with Aaron Glenn.
They are probably in no rush, like they're gonna want
to use all those picks right and rebuild this thing.
And they'll say this over and over, we want to
rebuild this thing the right way, right, and totally agree
with them. I'd want to rebuild the thing the right way.

(12:10):
And the GM is gonna sell this to Woody. I'm
gonna take these picks and I'm gonna build a team
full of guys like Sauce Gardner, Quinn Williams, guys like that. Right,
I'm gonna nail picks with a bunch of sweet players.
But he gets to take a more macro look at everything.
That's how gms talk. They think big picture that they

(12:32):
don't live day to day, practice to practice, week to week.
They're part of that operation. But there during the week,
especially you know in November and December, gms are watching
a lot of college film. They're watching guys that are
gonna be free agents in twenty twenty six. That they're
not focused on the upcoming opponent. It's not the way
it works. I do think that Aaron Glenn in any

(12:53):
coach in his situation because it's easy for him. I
saw he had some quotes today of saying like, we're
gonna try to build a team and coach a team
that makes the fans proud. It's hard to do that
when you suck. And as a CEO head coach, when
you suck, it can look really bad, really fast, because
people start asking what are you doing? And I mentioned
this early in the week. The thing with Aaron Glenn

(13:15):
is you're gonna have to prove to everybody, including your owner.
And he can say all the nice things right now
and he likes you and give you a contract. He's
proven he will fire people, he will not hesitate, he's
proven he's a little crazy. So the only way you
can prove that is like show some tangible impact. And
I said this yesterday and I will keep repeating this.
I do think he needs to take the reins back

(13:36):
to be the defensive coach the show, like, oh, he's
look at him scheming on a weekly basis. Look what
he brings to the table. So even while we suck,
we go we got something in this guy. But in
three years, when you've averaged four wins a season. It's like, oh,
we got all these picks. All people will say it
was our coach. Any good do I want Aaron Glenn
coaching those guys because people will forget what Aaron gl

(14:00):
And did with the Lions, because in twenty twenty eight
that'll be five years ago. We have we have memories
like Goldfish. Now we do not like, oh remember back
in two thousand and four, people do not think like that.
That's not our society's too fast paced. We're losing too
many brain cells with the cell phone, social media and
just everything coming into our brains. So in three years,

(14:22):
if it continues to look ugly and I'm just like,
I'm the CEO, I'm the head, head coach, it is
not gonna go well. I do think he's gonna have
to do something dramatic. They can tell him whatever he
wants to hear. Right now, we're in for the long
haul with this guy. We really like this guy. Easy
to say tell me that after another season of four wins,
so back to back years of sucking, that's just that's
a long football season of just losing on a weekly basis, which,

(14:46):
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Kyler Murray was officially put on an IR today and
Jonathan that they've really tiptoed around this situation, which I understand.
Right if you are, if you're trying to sell a car,
you're not gonna tell the guy like, yeah, this thing
kind of sucks, breaks down all the time, it's not
very reliable, right, you try to uplift, Like, my car's great,

(16:54):
I've had it for three years, never had an issue.
Air conditioning's freezing cold. Speakers are great, brand new tires,
I mean sings rat or roll. Right, So you want
to promote this guy you never wanted to come out,
even if everyone knows that, we bench Kyler Murray again,
even if literally everyone understands that, that's never coming out

(17:15):
of your mouth. And I don't ever expect from them
to say we've benched Kyler Murray. But they bench Kyler
Murray and there's nothing wrong with that. I I got
no problem with that. They didn't draft him in the
first place. He hasn't played that well. He's been banged up,
but Jacoby were sett in the offense, this is better
with him and most importantly, their guy, the guy they
drafted number four overall, Marvin Harrison, looks good what Jacoby

(17:36):
were saying. So now the question is like what happens now?
And there's no disputing like, Kyler Murray's better than a
lot of guys in the league. I at least can
be on an individual game basis. Over the course of games.
I'm not quite sure he's a winning quarterback, but I
don't think he has much trade value. So if I
had to guess right now, I would expect Kyler Murray

(17:57):
to be released in February. That would be my guess
that Kyler Murray will be a free agent going into
the free agent market in middle of March. But I
do not think he will have a trade market, even
if it's for nothing, based on how much money he
was making. Right, if you told me his contract was

(18:18):
twenty million dollars a year, I'd be like, yeah, some
team for sure could bring him in as a bridge
quarterback trade like a fifth round pick no one has
taken at a salary of forty five fifty million dollars.
That is just not taking place with a massive cap hit.
That's not the way it works. Because I believe if
he was on the open market, you know, in February,
to me, his market would be like, I think someone

(18:40):
give him one year, fifteen million dollars. I think the
Jets proved that, like they gave a guy two years
forty million dollars and immediately regretted it. Now, could you
give Kyler that contract? You surely could, But why would you?
You know? And that's the thing with the Jets, It's
like you trust these guys making all the moves because
I don't know if I do. But and that's listen,

(19:03):
all these guys are competing for job, their job, right,
and that's ultimately what these guys are doing in Arizona.
Sure they want contract extensions, but it's hard to give
someone a contract extension at seven to ten. It's a
little bit easier if you go. Look when we didn't
have to play with Kyler Murray and we got a
capable backup, our team wasn't that bad. So hey, this offseason,

(19:23):
if we can just get a solid starter, our team
should be pretty solid. And that is probably going to
be their pitch. Speaking of bad quarterbacks, Kirk Cousins, who
him and his agent, who I know a little bit, Mike,
has done an incredible job. They fleece the Atlanta Falcons,
I mean fleeced Atlanta. Kirk Cousins will officially have made

(19:46):
for two years of work. Started fifteen games, he made
ninety million dollars. He threw eighteen touchdown passes, he threw
sixteen interceptions, and was objectively a below average player. And listen,
he was good before he heard his achilles. But when
you're in your late thirties and you hurt your achilles

(20:07):
and you're able to get a four year, one hundred
and eighty million dollar contract with almost one hundred million
dollar guarantee, you deserve a round of applause. That is
great business. Because the Atlanta Falcons a month later drafted
a guy number eighth overall, which we're not sure can
play either. And this speaks to the downfall of this

(20:29):
franchise right now. They not only can't figure out the
quarterback position, they keep making the wrong moves. Right a
couple of years ago, they started Desmond Ritter to come
into a season. What did you guys think was gonna happen?
Then they overcorrect in the offseason and they give a
guy who can't play anymore. Because like everyone in the
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(20:50):
you fall for cliff That could be thirty two, it
could be thirty five, It could be Tom Brady and
be forty four. You never know. But it happens to quarterbacks.
It happened to Breeze, it happened to Rothlisberger, it happened
to Peyton Manning, having a Rivers, having a Matt Ryan.
Happens to every guy. And that was Kirk Cousins achilles
career over. But before his career was over, I'm getting

(21:10):
ninety million dollars from Home Depot and that's what he did.
So congrats to Kirk Cousins, which I do think if
the Atlanta Falcons continue to underachieve and obviously don't make
the playoffs, I think this will be one of the
pivotal moments that will lead to everyone in that building
getting fired. Because the football operation, it's one thing when

(21:32):
you're losing games. It's another thing when you start allocating
funds to people the game. I mean that they paid
twenty seven point five million dollars for Cousins to be
their backup this year. I think we're probably five plus
years away before backup money. Even Sniff's twenty million dollars, right,
it's pretty rare when you see that one Like Sam
Darnold last year one year, ten million dollars. Daniel Jones

(21:55):
won year fourteen million dollars. But I think in both
cases they kind of knew the guy is going to
be the starter. I just how many guys I'm gonna
be a backup? It's usually the going mac Jones got
two year seven million dollars. What Gardner Mins you get
one year four million dollars. I mean usually the going
rate is three to five million dollars. And you had

(22:16):
Kirk Cousins getting twenty seven point five and then he
was forced to play and obviously did not do well
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Drew Brees has been pretty adamant that he would be
one of the best broadcasters in America if he was
given the chance. Now, granted, we saw him a couple
of years ago on NBC did not go well. Some
of that, if I remember correctly, was in studio. So

(23:40):
sometimes being in studio and doing a game can be
a little different. Like the studio situation, especially when they're
seven guys on the desk, can be difficult to get
your opinions and your thoughts out. JJ Wat's a good example,
Like you put him on the desk with five other guys, Like,
I'm not really much takeaway. I watched him doing the broadcast.
I'm like, Hey, he's pretty solid, he's not bad, he's

(24:00):
kind of fun, you can make some jokes. He just
he's pretty comfortable in that seat. So I think the
problem is is there's an arrogance with Drew Brees because
he was such a great player and his belief in
himself it should be really high. He just thinks I'm
gonna dominate this. And part of being great as a
broadcaster is like this is entertainment, man. Like your job

(24:24):
as a football player was very production based about learning,
understanding the defense, that executing it your personality. Obviously you
had to be a leader as a quarterback, but it's
a completely different profession. Like can you make me smile?
Can you crack a joke? Can you be serious? We
be critical of a guy, like it's really really Are

(24:44):
you comfortable in your own skin? Can you be self deprecating?
You can? Literally? Can you make fun of yourself? Because
you just be a famous former, you know, future Hall
of Famer doesn't just make you a good broadcaster. Honestly,
it's kind of irrelevant. How often if you just go
around on baseball or basketball for the local broadcast, can
you find guys calling games that were by no means

(25:08):
the team's biggest stars that are really good because they're
really really entertaining. I grew up on Dwayne Kuiper and
Mike Kruco. Dwayne Kuiper is an outlier. He is a
former professional baseball player who is the play by play
guy for the Giants and has been for decades. Again,

(25:28):
he's not a broadcaster, you know. It went to Syracuse
or Northwestern and learned and then worked his way around.
He literally was a major league baseball player one career
home run and calls the games. And his partner also,
they're not Barry Bonds or you know, Willie Mace, but
they're elite at their job. They're older now, but in

(25:50):
their prime, it did not get any better than those two.
Why because they were really really entertaining, and I just
think part of football you gotta find a lane, you know.
And Troy Aikman, he's kind of a hard ass. He
will let it rip. Collinsworth, he's fun romo. It's kind
of all over the place, you know. I just wonder
what Breeze because everyone loved him as a teammate. He

(26:12):
was universally respected and liked in that locker room. But
that was because he was a great player and a
great worker, and everything he did for that franchise was
about winning. As a broadcaster, none of that really matters,
I mean it obviously matters that you have the credentials
as a player that if you say something, we think
you know what you're talking about. But it's going to

(26:36):
be very interesting to just next time he calls a game,
I'm going to put it on because he stocked a
big game and last time he got a shot it
did not go well at NBC because I think a
lot of these guys kind of get in that mold
of as a player. When the camera was on, I
kind of had to turn on my politician hat. I
couldn't maybe be as personable, right. It's why the guys

(27:01):
that can be personable with a TV camera on them
are some of our biggest personalities. Why do you think
Kelsey has flown up the ranks? Both of them because
they can be loose in front of a camera. George
Kittle's the same thing. You watch some of these guys
like God, he won't say anything. So Drew Brees one
of those guys, didn't say that much. So now he's
gonna go television and just dominate. We'll see. I hope

(27:22):
he does. The more good broadcasters, the better. Tom Brady
cloned his dog. I guess he's part of this company.
This you know bioscience company that's you know, investing in
the cloning world. I don't know if it's just animals,

(27:43):
I would imagine humans as well. My first reaction as
someone that has a little dog that's a little older
that obviously the dog's not gonna live forever. I don't
think I would do that because I think what would
be really weird is that if you cloned the dog,
and so you gave me the same looking type dog
of my Pugzoo, thirty two pounds, kind of fat, underbite,

(28:07):
likes to eat, but there's no way the personality would
be the same. So I would have Lully two point zero,
but I'm I'm sure she would probably act a little
bit differently. That would throw me off, and that feels
a little too like dystopian zombie land for me. It's
not something that at first blush when I read the headline,

(28:27):
I'd be that interested in. But the least shocking thing
I've ever seen is that Tom Brady is in the
cloning business, because in what world could you find a
guy in his you know, what's Tom forty six, forty
seven years old who has his money just grows and grows.
He's in great shape. He's single. Guess what I would
never want to do if I was him die I'd

(28:51):
want to live forever. I would never want this world
to stop. I got a house in Miami, got a
house in some Italian villa. I've got a house in Vegas'.
I got a house in Newport Beach. I got seven
girlfriends all around. Everywhere I go, I fly private. I
don't have to deal with any human beings. My life
doesn't get much better. So, hey, we got this business?

(29:11):
Is cloning in like dogs? Well? Could it be humans?
One day I'm in I want to clone myself and
I want to keep going. So the least shocking thing
I've ever seen is that Tom Brady does not want
this thing to stop. If I was him, I wouldn't either.
I'd want to keep this train rolling down the tracks,
so listen. I would not be into cloning a dog.

(29:34):
I just think that would be a little too weird.
I think there's part of it, like just let the
dog be and hold on to those memories. But I
do understand why Tom would one day not want his
life tend. It just is too good. I didn't work
twenty years to build this decade to then become worth
hundreds of millions of dollars and one day probably gonna

(29:55):
own the Raiders. For this not to last as long
as I can, what's the point of having all this
money if I can't one day, maybe just keep living
a little bit longer, totally understand where he's coming from. There,
and last, but not at least one story I saw
on the interweb that kind of made me laugh, as
people are always arguing, like we all acknowledge football is
the most popular sport, no second place, Like the gap

(30:17):
between the sport of football and that includes college football
and the other sports is gigantic, right. The World Series
just did huge numbers. Twenty five million people watch Game seven.
For example, the Chiefs and the Bills on Sunday afternoon,
a regular season game did over thirty million people. But
I saw a lot of people are arguing about what's

(30:39):
more popular basketball versus baseball. And obviously, depending on the market,
someplaces the NBA team does really well. Obviously in some
markets like the Cubs, the Dodgers, and the Yankees, baseball
teams do really well. But here's what I know, because
people made a really big deal over the World Series.

(31:00):
Ten million more viewers in Game seven versus the NBA guys.
The Los Angeles Dodgers are infinitely bigger than the Oklahoma
City Thunder are infinitely bigger than the Indiana Pacers. It
is not a fair fight, so we can argue baseball's
relevance how culturally impactful it all is. Here's what I know.

(31:24):
The Los Angeles Dodgers, by themselves, just like the New
York Yankees, they did huge ratings last year when they
played each other in the World Series. Are two of
the rare teams in baseball or basketball that would be
the equivalent of NFL teams. The NFL is the only
sport they can take small markets Kansas City, Buffalo and
do enormous numbers the other two sports cannot. If the

(31:46):
Twins had played the Diamondbacks in the World Series, guess
what no one would have watched. If the Oklahoma City
Thunder played the Indiana Pacers in the NBA Finals, guess what,
not as many people are gonna watch as if the
Lakers played the Knicks. This is a pretty easy math equation,
but one constant these last couple of years with big

(32:07):
ratings in baseball have to do with one team and
one team only, and that's the Los Angeles Dodgers. They
are a fucking cash cow. They have an enormous I
mean a long list of generations of fans they have one.
I mean just they're in one of the biggest cities
in the world, and they have been relevant as a

(32:29):
franchise for several generations because they've won in multiple different decades.
But the way they're doing it too, with this international
superstar and basically buying the you know, all the best
Japanese players, has even added a wrinkle of like, oh,
they have the Japanese babe Ruth, but not like the
fat babe Ruth that couldn't really run and probably throw

(32:50):
eighty eight miles an hour. Yeah, he throws a hundred
and he's six' five and he runs like He's Derek stingley,
junior you, Know, yeah and he pitches like He's Roger.
Clemens it's, like, what, like people are gonna even if
you're not that into, baseball you're gonna pay. Attention i'm
a good. EXAMPLE i didn't watch any. BAIT i didn't
watch a total of nine innings the entire baseball. SEASON

(33:11):
i probably watched eighty percent of The dodger. GAMES i
just found them must. Watch they're pretty. Interesting no different
than LIKE i didn't watch The Blue Jay. Seattle you
know why didn't do anything for? ME i didn't. Care
guess WHAT i did Watch Blue jays versus The. Yankees
the big brands in baseball. Matter and as long as
The dodgers are winning every, year guess what a lot
of people are gonna. Watch people like. Dynasties they just.

(33:34):
Do they interest. People The, bulls The, patriots now The,
chiefs The, warriors like they moved the, needle like the
random one hit wonder like The Indiana pacers do. Not
And i'm not trying to take shots at The Indiana.
PACERS i grew up have a lot of respect for that,
Franchise Reggie, miller The Davis, Brothers Mark, Jackson Larry bird,

(33:55):
LIKE i got no issue with. Him but this isn't that.
Complicated you, know if The lakers were in THE Nba
finals against The Boston, celtics those numbers would have been
up as. Well but if The Oklahoma City thunder keep
making THE Nba, finals even if they do become a,
DYNASTY i just don't think people are gonna get behind.

(34:15):
It it's just it's not gonna. Work you. Know that's
WHY i think THE nba Wanted luca with The. Lakers
that's why The Major League baseball has no issues With
Shoeo tani going to The. Dodgers they wouldn't mind some
better players going to The. Yankees like this basic math,
equation and they got more eyeballs when they're on television
than all these other. Franchises, uh here's what we're gonna

(34:50):
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(35:10):
With derek Is Brandon aiyuk done for the. Season kyle
originally said they were targeting week six for his, return
but it's now week ten and he says they aren't
opening up his practice window until he can hit specific
QUOTE gps speed. Metrics with an injury like, his what
happens if he's never able to hit those metrics? AGAIN

(35:34):
i don't expect to see him this. YEAR i would
say that this season is a, wash AND i think
that situation is just a sad. Situation, Right obviously they paid,
him he came. Back it was he just looked out
of sorts and then he had a devastating. Injury you,
know it wasn't just your typical torn Acl there are

(35:55):
ligaments and it was really. BAD i, mean there is
a chance that he is never the, same and that
is the defense of why you hold out to try
to get as much money as. Possible right from his,
side he did exactly what you should do to protect
yourself if in a situation like this. Happens he was

(36:15):
a dominant route running wide. Receiver dominant might be, strong
but a high end route running player right cuts explosion
in that of breaks just was awesome of getting open
and then it's knee. Snapped and now they gave him
a lot of, money and you, KNOW i think there's
a decent chance that he is never effective, again which

(36:38):
is one of the big risks of this sport is
that you can have a catastrophic injury and, regardless like
modern medicine has never been better than it is. Now,
Right like WHEN i was a, Kid achilles injuries would end. Careers,
now it's, like especially with a young, player they can
bounce back acl injuries you might as, well like have a,
nosebleed they're, nothing but when you have ligaments and it

(37:00):
was really. Bad SO i DO i have no expectation
to See Brandon ayuk this. Season We're, perty, REALLY i
mean so. Really they gave a lot of money To
perdy And ayuk and both of them had just awful.
Injuries Now perty's injury not gonna derail his, career but
it cost him twenty twenty. Five it looks, like how

(37:22):
do you think other head coaches View? Signetti do you
think they respect? Him or is there a bit of
an envy hostility toward? Him since he's shown the program
can be flipped. Overnight If i'm a new or current
head coach at PROGRAM, X y OR, z is there
less of a run ray runway before my steats, start
my seat starts to heat. UP i definitely think he's

(37:45):
changed the game a little, bit AND i think he's
added pressure of like he's flipped it. IMMEDIATELY i, mean
he's gonna make the playoffs back to back. Years he's
gonna have two straight years making the playoffs At. Indiana
so when Your, auburn you're, like we're not even room remotely.
Close when You're, florida you're, like what is going? On
when You're Penn state and you're losing THE, Ucla you're,

(38:08):
like how is this? Happening SO i think he is
a direct reflection of people being pissed off around the
country at their. COACH i you don't want a guy
WHO i think is going to heat up on Is
Mario christobal because they're paying him a lot of. Money
HE i, mean should have had his pick of the

(38:28):
litter at, quarterback and he Picked carson, back And Carson
becks cost them two, games cost them two, games just horrendous.
Interceptions so and anyone could have you, know a couple
of years ago when when they can't, ward their defense
wasn't any. GOOD i guess that was last. Year but
this year when they Signed carson, back everyone was, like hey,

(38:50):
man we just Watched carson seems a little, risky especially
like how a would you give it? Him like five million? Dollars,
okay you sure there's not another guy out? There and
now they're gonna miss the, Playoffs and to, me it's.
Crazy the crazy part about college, Football AND i was
thinking this when the when the top twelve came. Out

(39:11):
is my cousin who played At Fresno state in like
two thousand and three four or five six, range and
THEN i went to work when he finished a couple
of years after he finished. Playing WHEN i was At Fresno,
state we were in the. Whack and the whac Had Boise,
state it Had New, mexico it Had New, mexico or
it didn't Have New, mexico Had New Mexico, state Had.

(39:31):
Hawaii who else did we Play Utah? State but before
like a couple of years before it had schools Like
utah AND byu In San Diego, state they were in
the whack and then they all merged and created The Mountain,
west which for a long time Had New, Mexico San Diego, State,

(39:54):
UTAH byu schools like. That And i'm looking Now utah
and are better programs and ranked higher Than miami, are Especially.
Utah you KNOW byu in the early, eighties like won
a national. Championship But, utah Like utah is just better
Than Florida state and is better than like who would

(40:16):
you take on a neutral site winner gets into the?
Playoffs miami Or. Utah who would you trust? More BECAUSE
i know my Answer Kyle whittingham In. Utah so it
shows you the power in THE. Nfl The jets are
a disaster because they have no. Quarterback they've hit on
all these. Picks you, know a ton of, picks no.

(40:37):
Quarterback none of it matters even if you have a decent,
coach right and who KNOWS i Mean Sla Aaron glenn
good head, COACHES i don't. Know but even IF i
gave Them Andy, reid like he could only do so
much with justin, fields they would clearly be better than
they are. Now but like at the end of the,
day if your quarterback's, bad your quarterback's. Bad SO i
think when you, look the quarterback in college football is

(40:59):
kind of the, coach and then obviously that coach needs
to then the second most important guy is the. Quarterback
but you could win in college football with average Quarterbacks Will,
Howard Riley lanard they were drafting like the sixth seventh.
Round you do not Need Joe burrow to win the national.
Championship it, helps but like you can win the national
championship if your coach knows what he's doing and building

(41:20):
up the program or compete for one with a third.
Rounder the coach is the most important. Guy so when
you get the coach, wrong it is just you got no.
Shot one Thing i'm gonna hit. ON i think On
Fougazi friday is one story that kind of went viral
Was Hugh freeze And Brian kelly playing a lot of.
Golf have some thoughts there when it comes to a college,
coach just. Crazy the landscape of college is just is

(41:45):
just a lot. Different like IF i can just win
it At utah go to the, playoffs OR i can
win It indiana to go to the, playoffs like Is Penn?
State LIKE i think we talk about that job like
it's nineteen eighty seven or nineteen ninety. Eight it's obviously
it's a good, Job but what the hell's the difference?
Nowadays DO i have an? Infrastructure CAN i pay the?
Coach CAN i pay? Coordinators because IF i, DO i

(42:06):
have NIL i can win. Anywhere it's like the world is,
flat you know before think about. This i'm living In, Scottsdale.
Arizona thirty years, AGO i would not have been, here,
RIGHT i wouldn't have had the optionality because of my,
profession just like so many human beings who can operate
from wherever technology change the, GAME i would probably still

(42:27):
be in Northern. California, well Now scottsdale is much more, Desirable,
Austin texas is much more, Desirable florida's much more. Desirable
nashville is much more desirable because human beings are much
More it's easier to transport your life and still operate
and work regardless where you, live because the world truly
is flat now with. Technology that wasn't the case twenty

(42:48):
thirty years. Ago so where you were, based you, know
if you wanted to work in, finance you kind of
had to be In New york Or San. Francisco if
you wanted to work In, hollywood you, know or you
wanted to be in the, movies you kind of had
to go to Souther. Fiornia and times have dramatically changed
and they will only continue to, change, Right, SO i
think it's no different than college football as it is in.

(43:10):
Society as times, changed things change and things that used
to be norms no longer. Are you, know it wasn't
just cool to live In nashville Or, Austin texas Or,
Scottsdale arizona in nineteen ninety, six people weren't just lined
up to move. There thirty years, later things have. Changed
no different college. Football, look some things are still the,

(43:31):
same but like you, KNOW i, Mean Penn state would
have been a no. Brainer everyone will have been lined
up for that. Job now the guy At indiana's, Like
i'll say, It, INDIANA i got a. Question would you
Trade kyler straight up For? Tua seems like they both
need a fresh. START i don't know, EXACTLY i haven't

(43:54):
dove deep. Enough i'm sure once we get toward a free,
agency you, know the comb depending on who's coaching those.
Teams IF i could just do a straight up trade
for both guys instead of cutting them and you, know
impacting my, CAP i might think about doing that for a,
year especially because you could cut both guys after twenty twenty.

(44:15):
SIX i would entertain that depending on what my options.
WERE a debate between friends what makes for a better
sports viewing experience drinking or. Gummies, Personally i've been a
big supporter of watching sports off, edibles since there is

(44:37):
no hangover involved AND i can actually remember key moments of.
Games but my friends prefer the old school way of
getting shit faced and watching the. Game what is? Better,
WELL i think it depends if you're by, yourself no, brainer, gummies,
right because it can feel like especially if you gotta
phone your hand game, on it's it's a good. EXPERIENCE

(45:00):
i would say if you have other people, Around i'm
not a big gummy with other, people guy, One i'm
not a huge gummy. GUY i have to be. Careful you.
Know sometimes you eat a little too much And i'm cloud. Nine,
No i'm. Not i'm more of A cbd guy than A.
Thc but you, know you get the RIGHT dac like pretty.
GOOD i would rather have some cocktails or have a
couple of beers watching the game with a group of.

(45:22):
People If i'm going to be by myself at my
house Watching ALABAMA, lsu, Yeah i'd rather have a. Gummy
SO i think it's very dependent on the. Situation WOULD
i want To WOULD i want to like go to
some a buddy's house or meet someone at a bar
or something on a? GUMMY i would. Not NOW i

(45:45):
don't do them consistently enough to, know like sometimes you
know your boy can be, like oh stop these negative.
Thoughts you, know gotta control that brain when you can
control the, brain everything's. Good but if you, can't you
just you go down a rabbit. Hole all of a,
sudden you eye yourself on your buddy's couch thinking about
some of the darkest moments of your. Life you're, LIKE
i cannot stop, this SO i would rather have you,

(46:08):
know a vodka soda in that. Situation good question, Though
two Questions lions, fan is is it because The lions
are just starting to be a good team after years
of being so bad that every single loss fans make
it seem like the season is. Over, also would you
consider drafting a quarterback in the next year or two

(46:28):
to sit Behind Jared? GOFF i think that's the nature
of football when you're a good. Team, Right let's just
say the line is twelve wins or. More, so if
you're winning twelve or more, games you are more than
doubling the amount of wins than you have. Losses, well
you only have seventeen, Games so when you lose four or,

(46:49):
five those moments feel really big and it's either, twofold
it's one you're losing a game that you should, win
like when The packers lose to The browns or The.
Anthers there probably aren't many of their fans that anticipate
anything else than a win going into that, Game so
it is jarring when you, lose like you. COULDN'T i,

(47:12):
know The bulls are five and, one but like The
warriors right now are five and. Three it doesn't matter
if they were eight to zer or if they were
three and. Five it's, like if they're gonna be, healthy
they're gonna be. Okay, Right so to, me in, BASKETBALL
i think. ONE i think in basketball it's like every

(47:33):
eight games is essentially ONE nfl. Game so The, warriors for,
example at five and, three have played ONE nfl. GAME
i think how crazy that. Is SO i could be
wrong on that. MATH i have the double. Check maybe that's,
baseball because now it's like eight games eight times ten
would be. Eighty maybe it's more like. Four maybe it's
baseball it's eight or. Nine don't quote me on that

(47:55):
in the bar. Argument but, YEAH i don't think that
makes any, sense for it'd probably be like, six probably
be like. Six BUT i just think that's the nature
of the. Sport but it makes it's why the sport's so.
Big every game, matters it's It's football's greatest attribute is you,
know watching that game. Matters it's WHY i, struggle like

(48:16):
trying to get into some series on. Television i've said
this FOREVER i. Did i'm not a like science fiction
things that are unrealistic television. Guy but when something Like
game Of thrones is such a big, Show i'm just
gonna watch. It AND i can find enough stuff in
that show sex violence that kind of keeps my. Interest

(48:39):
like ultimately the dragons and stuff like that's not doing
that much for, me BUT i know culturally a lot
of people are watching, it AND i like to. WATCH
i get a little fomo on television stuff right where
it's easy to. WATCH i don't, Know White lotus or
a show that is more enjoyable for, myself especially back
in the, Day, sopranos you name, it some of the
big shows over the last twenty five, years but kind

(49:01):
of rare that that happens. Anymore, Right it's a really
really short list of a show that you, know like
most people are watching this, thing AND i think that's
what football. Has everyone's, watching do you know what? Basketball
and Sometimes i'll be at the gym and they have
three TVs and it's usually ones On Fox, sports ones ON
espn and ones ON espn. Two so If i'm on

(49:21):
the the, Elliptical i'm actually not an. Olyptical i'm either
a treadmill or a stare master. Guy and you just
kind of especially if you're on the stair, master your
eye line is just with the. Television so even if
you're watching the television on the, StairMaster which it, has
you're gonna look, up take some deep breaths of, times
you're just gonna look at. It sometimes WHEN i See Steven,
a you, know in Before christmas arguing over a basketball

(49:43):
topic of like do we need to have Concern it's
like four games into the season or ten? Game it
was like what are we talking? About but you gotta
manipulate that for? Television in, football you do, Not, right
That packer loss was, Bad like that was a, Problem,
right that That colts game all of a sudd when you,
Lose like is this The Daniel? Jones we know they're real, conversations,

(50:05):
Right they're real, conversations which really benefits the popularity of.
Sport do you think there's been a little bit of

(50:26):
a pendulum swing between THE nfc AND Afc Lamar, Hurt
Burrow Hurt bills And chiefs don't seem as. Invincible, meanwhile The, Rams,
Bucks eagles seems like, Powerhouses, Lions packers even Thrown seattle
in there With. DONALD i definitely think the THE nfc
is on the. Come also would like to get your
thoughts On vrabel Drake man The. Pats they're right in

(50:47):
the running for the top spot in THE afc and
seems like nobody is talking. ABOUT i just don't think
people think they're quite as, good you, know as The
bills or The, chiefs OR i mean specifically The, bills
like CAUSE i kind OF i actually look, today The
patriots are like plus to win the. Division The BILLS
i think to start the season were like minus four,
hundred which is an enormous favorite to win a. Division

(51:09):
and The, patriots IF i probably have to plus three
point fifty or, something they definitely still have an uphill,
battle but it's not as unrealistic if The bills screw
up and lose one of these. Games SO i think The,
patriots their team is going to be much more talented
in a couple of. Years it just will. Be but
their schedule is pretty conducive this, year and that game

(51:30):
In New england twelve to. Fourteen that's a good. Game
and leading up to that, game they have The buccaneers this.
Week it's not a bad. Game then they get The,
jets who traded away their entire team On Thursday night
football at. Home that's a win at The bengals versus The.

(51:52):
Giants so even if they lose This buccaneers, game it
would be stunning if they went to and. TWO i
would say at seven to, two there's a pretty good
chance they're ten and three going into That bills. Game
and The bills leading into that, game get The dolphins this.

(52:13):
WEEK i like The. Dolphins then they get The bucks at,
home then they get at The steelers versus The, bengals
and then at The. Patriots they actually have five games
BECAUSE i think The patriots have a Buy so they
go At, Dolphins, buccaneers at The, texans at The. Steelers

(52:34):
that's a tough little. Stretch buccaneers At texans At, steelers
probably lose one of those. Games That bill's game is
gonna be. Big That Bill's patriot game gonna be really really.
Big we always comment on this organization if terrible from
the top, down but a bunch of these crappy teams
have underwent full regime, changes like all new coaching staffs

(52:55):
and new front office. People so when an organization Like
vegas Or jets they clear, house how do we keep
saying they don't know what they're doing when from an outsider,
viewer or at least for, me it's all people have
nothing to do with the previous people running the. Team
the hell of a question it. Is it's hard to shake, dysfunction,
man you can feel it when you come into the.

(53:16):
Building the other thing in a lot of those, places
the carryover players don't know how to. Win. Right If
Andy reid disappeared tomorrow And spags Or naggie had had
to keep it running the rest of the season and next,
season they wouldn't be as good more than, likely, Right
but they wouldn't be. Bad why because the culture of

(53:39):
they're guys starting with their star. Players but then all
the other. Starters think how much Winning Tray smith And
Creed humphrey have. Done think about the standard in which
they understand what it takes to. Win Or trent McDuffie
Or george call offtis, Right Nick, bolton like those, guys
the understanding they have of even now some of their

(54:03):
wide receivers who have played with him for a couple of,
years AND i think that's. Hard like at the end
of the, Day Sas, Gardner Garrett, Wilson Quinn, Williams Colton,
Miller Max, CROSBY i think those guys are winning, players
but like they. Don't they've never, won and definitely the
people around them that there's not a winning. CULTURE i

(54:26):
think that's, very very difficult to change. Overnight and that's
where the pressure on the head coach in THE gm is,
enormous but specifically the head. Coach and Like Pete, carroll
he's had an impressive. Resume he's seventy four years. OLD i,
mean there is a, CHANCE i like the higher but
there's a chance he just lost, fastball, Right Mike rabel
has not lost. Fastball like you Put Mike vrabel as

(54:46):
The jets head coach of The raiders head. COACH i
don't think they're a playoff, team but they're both way.
Better they're both dramatically. Better the other thing is both
those two, teams for, example made a bad person no.
MOVE i, mean The jets Signed Justin fields for two,
years forty million. Dollars The raiders traded For Gino. Smith
why Because Pete carroll likes? Them not a good. Move

(55:11):
jets call The bengals in the off season off for
five first rounders and two seconds For? Burrow what. Happens
i'm a lifetime begl fan And burrow being my favorite,
PLAYER i say. No if You're Duke, tobin what would you?
Say it's a great. QUESTION i think if you're The,
jets obviously you would do, that but it would be pretty.

(55:32):
RISKY i, mean this is a guy now who's had
some major. Injuries he hasn't been able to finish three,
seasons one with a, wrist one with a, knee and
now one with turf Tow so it's like durability is
a major. Concern BUT i also think you're a little
less likely to do that now that you just Traded
Sauce gardner And Quinnin. Williams but obviously those guys bring the.

(55:55):
PICKS i think if you're The, bengals you would think about.
IT i think you would think long and hard about.
It obviously you would never contemplate it if he had
been healthy and you had been, Winning but like he's
missed a lot of games for, you SO i wouldn't
fault him if they, did that wouldn't fault him at.

(56:16):
All don't think that's gonna happen. Though question for the,
pod will we ever see a quarterback shorter than six
feet drafted first overall again or in the first round
for that. MATTER i thought we got a little over
zealous with that. One but you look around the. Country
it also takes the guys in college to be really.

(56:39):
Good so when you go first. Overall Kyler murray was
drafted top ten in, Baseball he's an all time, freak.
Right Baker mayfield's right around six, feet like won The,
heisman was an elite. Player bryce pretty unique, situation five
ten of bucks seventy. FIVE i think if you do
that over, again obviously you TAKE. Cj, Stroud BUT i

(57:01):
think when you look around college, football, like who is that? Guy?
NOW i think The Ole miss guy is, shorter BUT
I i don't think you would draft him number one.
OVERALL i would never draft a guy five to ten
number one. Overall couldn't do. It i'm a big believer
in just big. People we were actually talking about this

(57:23):
after we recorded one of the shows the other, Night
Like Jalen wattle is a really good. Player but in
what world if we were all running a football, team it's, like,
hey you want to Take Jalen, waddle who's five to
nine a buck eighty good, player Or Pinnae, Sewel like
you wonder why The dolphins are Bad they Took Jalen

(57:45):
wattle at six while they already Had Tyreek, hill who
they had just traded for Over Pinnae sewel like. That
bad franchises stay bad for a. Reason in what? World,
organizationally would someone in the room, GO i don't think
there's a good. Idea how about we take that big
ass dude From oregon who is, probably at worst gonna
be a ten year starter and at best is gonna

(58:07):
be A hall Of. FAMER i think we should do.
That but we can get a five dine wide. Receiver,
yeah there's like seventeen of those guys in a. Draft
let's take that guy in the third. Round well he's
not as good As. Waddle well he'll be sixty seventy
percent of them for a quarter of the, price and
we'll have one of the best tackles in the. Game
why don't we do? That? Oh, yeah he's a right
tackle our. Quarterbacks you, know a left handed, player so

(58:30):
he's actually protecting his blind. Side you want to do?
That is that a good? Idea i've been hearing my
entire LIFE nfl coaches and players get together at halftime
to make. Adjustments but Both peyton And eli have laughed
at this. Idea they claim they have never made a
single halftime adjustment in their. Careers what do you make of?
This do teams make adjustments at? Halftime it's a good,
QUESTION i think. TEAMS i think their argument is we

(58:53):
make adjustments every time we come to the, Sideline so
going in at, half we have made, adjustments and we're
constantly tweak things every time we come off the. Field
what we, see what's, working what's not, working what we could,
do what we should. Add SO i think their point
is it gets talked about often like you play the
first half and then you go to, halftime and then

(59:15):
you completely rework everything and come back out for the second.
Half WHERE i think part of it for a quarterback
is every single time you come on and off the,
field you're tweaking. Stuff so you're going out at, halftime
you've already talked about a bunch of stuff that's. Happened
maybe happens more for defensive, guys BUT i think offensive
guys could be wrong on. That never been With peyton

(59:39):
And eli at, halftime BUT i would imagine that's part of.
It there's a non football related. Question But i've been
watching you for a long time and respect your opinions
information you. Give you've been working in sports for a long.
Time i'm out of. University i'm majoring in sports management
and minoring in. Nutrition i've always loved, sports health and,
fitness so it's a perfect path for. Me i'm just

(59:59):
unsure what job market with these. Degrees Since i'm only
getting a minor and, NUTRITION i won't be a registered
nutritionists or. Dietitian have you worked with people who have
taken a similar path and were able to work on
health and fitness side of, sports and what degrees did they?
HAVE i think your sports management. One it sounds like

(01:00:20):
you want to focus more on the nutrition. Side sports
management is. Broad you could do. Anything you could one
day be a president of a. Team you could ticket,
sales you could. Marketing it's pretty open. Ended WHEN i
was A ga At Prism, state my master's WAS i
think it was in the business, department but it was
like they had just created a sports. Management maybe it

(01:00:42):
wasn't the nutrition. DEPARTMENT i don't even, remember but it
was a pretty general. Degree not that it's had any
impact on me going to football or radio or, anything
but it. Does it gives you a lot of. OPTIONS
i can't speak to the nutrition aspect of whether it
be a team dietitian OR i don't. Know i'm actually

(01:01:04):
the wrong guy to ask on. THIS i could help
you with any you, know trying to get you, know
the path or some sort of path on getting an
internship and ticket. SALES i always think sales is the
easiest way to kind of work your way in any.
Organization but definitely a sports team is the easiest way
to get your foot in the door and then you
can take it from. There but when it comes to,
NUTRITION i don't. KNOW i hate to not have an

(01:01:27):
answer for, you BUT i don't really have an answer
on that. One why don't other gms just try doing
what how he? Does easier said than. Done but always
drafts players from schools Like, georgia trades aging players and
acquires areas of need for the. Deadline mega sound pretty.
Easy they have clearly made a conscious. Effort, OH i,

(01:01:47):
MEAN i know this for a fact of just drafting
the big school, guys and they've drafted a ton of
guys From bama And. GEORGIA i think the trade thing
is twofold. One his owner's big proponent of being aggressive
and making these. Moves so it's, like it's why they
Call dallas On Micah. Parsons they would have Given Michael

(01:02:08):
parsons one hundred and seventy million, dollars so part of
trading the, picks it wasn't just it's, like are you
willing to give him a huge sum of? Money And
Jeffrey leary was a lot of owners, like, eh just
find our own. Guy he's our first round. Picks let's
find our Own Michael. Parsons so the owner is willing to,
spend which Empowers howie to be. Aggressive but, YEAH i,

(01:02:28):
MEAN i think one trade he has that's really. Good,
besides Like kelsey And Brandon graham and Probably Lane, johnson
he's not gonna be beholden emotionally to a, Player AND
i think SOMETIMES, gms especially once you've become an established star,
player big, name kind of get too emotionally attached but
coaches definitely. Do and in most, organizations coaches have a

(01:02:50):
lot of, juice, right a lot of. Them the coaches
pick the personnel, guys and In philadelphia they just do
not how he. Does so, yeah if you can get
the rain and the power as A gm and don't
have to answer the, coaches you can do exactly what
how he's. Doing the volume
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