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October 3, 2025 • 54 mins

Former NFL scout John Middlekauff is reacting LIVE immediately following the Week 5 Thursday Night Football matchup between NFC West rivals San Francisco 49ers and the Los Angeles Rams. John reacts to the injuries reported around 49ers QB Brock Purdy. John then explains why he thinks that Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens may be bracing for a bad season. John then debates whether or not Miami Dolphins wide receiver Tyreek Hill is a Hall of Famer. John also reacts to the top plays of the night, breaking news throughout the NFL, and much more! John wraps ups reacting to Cleveland Browns QB Shedeur Sanders newest controversy and explains why he thinks this is a massive Week 5 for the Buffalo Bills.

03:18 - 49ers-Rams

28:03 - 49ers injuries

37:20 - Baltimore Ravens

41:23 - Tyreek Hill

44:10 - Shedeur Sanders

47:44 - Buffalo Bills

49:42 - Worst Teams: Titans, Jets, Panthers

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. What is going on? My people? Let me
get my bearings here on the road. I can't believe

(00:23):
what I just witnessed. The forty nine ers led by
Michael McCorkle Jones and I don't even know who else
because half the forty nine ers are injured and if
you play for Kyle you might literally might die on
the field. But the forty nine ers go to SOFI.
Many like to say, LEVI South and get a win

(00:45):
against Sean McVeigh and the Rams twenty six to twenty three.
I don't even know where to start. That was incredible.
We will I got notes for days. I got a
bunch of stuff I want to hit on some other
stuff around the NFL. I thought about just miming this
this podcast, but then it'd be pretty tough to listen
if words weren't coming out of my mouth. So we

(01:05):
will talk Lamar Jackson's injured, big week for the Bills.
Some people have been asking for me to bring something
back that I might. I might tease a little bit tonight,
but before we dive in to anything football, I've been
to Sofar and it's probably the best stadium I've ever
been to in terms of just the sure size, the uh,

(01:29):
the video kind of circular thing at the top. It's
like a ticker meets It's incredible. I was blown away
when I went like three or four years ago for
a Niner Rams game. It turned out to be one
of the greatest games I've ever been to. But if
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Before we dive into any details of this game, I
just want to say something because I'm guilty of this.
I'm sure many people are guilty of this. That are
forty nine Er fans that are just football fans that
have made fun of Mac Jones over the years. That

(02:34):
is one of the grittiest, toughest, most badass performances I
can ever remember. I told my guy behind the scene, Shane,
who's a Giants fan, one of the most legendary performances
I've ever seen is Eli Manning. He's a big Giants fan.
When he came into Candlestick in the NFC Championship game

(02:54):
hardbos first year and the forty nine Ers hit him
over and over and over again. Say what you want
about Eli. That is one of the more like I know.
He went on to win the Super Bowl, but that
performance in the rain was like, you respect that guy
till the moment he dies. And mac Jones, to me
has already had a legendary and let me repeat, legendary

(03:17):
run as a backup quarterback for the forty nine Ers.
He has three freaking wins. And it's October second. The
forty nine Ers or four and one and three of
their victories have come with Mac Jones playing quarterback. I
said this earlier this year when a bunch of back
backups played I think Mac had won a game and
the other backups had won. If your backup wins one

(03:39):
game filling in for the starter, you could make the
argument that he urged his salary. Whether he's making three million,
five million, seven million, whatever, if he wins multiple games,
he's underpaid. If he's doing what Mac Jones is doing.
Mac Jones and I and listen, the Rams defensive backfield
is horrendous. I mean it's their corner. Their team's good, like,

(04:01):
their team's really good. I know, Kieren Williams fumbles the
ball a little bit. Two receivers of studs, quarterbacks of
stud The defensive line are complete studs. They're coaching staff's
big time, but their dbs suck. And I mean DeMarcus
Robinson and Kendrick Bourne are looking like Jerry Rice and
Terrell Owens out there. Their DB's blow and Mac Jones
annihilated them all night long. But here's the thing. Mac

(04:24):
Jones had a need. He thought I was gonna fall off.
There was one point in time to night. I'm not
kidding whoever you were sitting with watching this game, whether
you're a Niner guy or whether or not, and you're
just enjoying some football. You looked at your wife, your
buddy wherever you were and said, is Mac Jones going
to die? That might sound hyperbolic, those words came out

(04:45):
of multiple people's mouths where I was sitting, and I
guarantee where you were sitting here, Like this guy might
not make it through the night by the end of
the game. He's limping off. It looks like he's got
like a torn acl maybe and he's throwing up all
over himself, Like this is insane. But Mac Jones, because
Kyle Shanahan, listen, what the forty nine ers got going
on injury wise is unlike anything we've ever seen. I mean,

(05:08):
they lost multiple guys on their defensive line a quarter
into the game. There was a point in time where
if you thought Mac Jones was going to be injured
and Adrian Martinez gonna come in, They've lost four or
five guys in the first half in this game. How
is this possible? But it's just you played for Kyle Shanahan,
and it also hit me tonight. I've been critical over

(05:29):
the years of I didn't mind like I guess Bosa's
but I used last year was pretty embarrassing. I'm pro
if you played for the forty nine Ers, any sort
of holdout, hold in, I will never have an issue
with you again because if you played for Kyle Shanahan,
your career, any game can end in your likelihood for

(05:51):
injury playing for that man. And this franchise right now
is infinitely higher than other places, not even debatable. No
one would debate me, because it's it's a it's a fact.
It's just objective, Like, you play for the forty nine Ers,
your likelihood of getting injured for whatever reason. I don't
know if it's the doctors, the trainers, the strength staff
and listen, some people get mad at me, maybe within

(06:12):
the halls of the forty nine ers. I've been told
I guess the people push back. It's like, here's what
I know. All these people are gonna get fired at
the end of the year because when players suck, they
get in trouble right or or they get cut right
or traded or just relieved of their duties. When you lose,
coaches get fired. Yet like this situation behind, the Niners
have guys dropping like flies more than anything I've ever seen.

(06:33):
And for Mac Jones to win this game with the
mass unit of Christian McCaffrey had twenty two carries for
fifty seven yards. I'm no math major. That's not great.
It's not his fault. He has nowhere to go. Kyle Shanahan,
who I respect. He is a fantastic offensive mind, knows
how to coach up offense, get guys open, coach the
quarterback really good. He fundamentally believes that offensive linemen aren't

(06:58):
that important. He said it. This is not me, This
is not conjecture, This is not a guest. They have
gone on record. His offensive line coach has gone on
record they will draft skill guys over offensive lineman. Well,
trust me, at chose because all these guys are hurt anyway.
So you drafted I. You could drafted Ricky Piersol. There
nowhere to be found. So you're rolling with Kendrick Bourne
that you just found off the scrap. He Von Waivers

(07:19):
and DeMarcus Robinson who's coming back from suspension, and Jake
Toanjas who I gotta be honest. I followed the forty
nine ers pretty freaking closely. I basically knew nothing about
until he caught that game when he touched down in Seattle.
And you got Mac Jones getting Pepper and listen the
Rams defensive line Jared Verse stud I mean one note

(07:41):
I had that guy might be underrated. I mean they
were points tonight. They had him playing stand up linebacker
over the center. They had him lighting up on some
like short yardage goal line stuff. More inside that guy
is he's got Khalil Mack two point zero back in
like twenty fifteen sixteen written all over. That guy is
a certified bad ass. Fisk is good, young is good.

(08:05):
I mean they have a ton of dudes up front,
and they were working and I repeat working, Colton mckivit's
who the forty nine ers just gave an extension to who.
I kind of understood it because like, well, like look
at the rest of the offensive lineman mainly pretty bad
in this league. You're not gonna upgrade over that. That
guy was getting his lunch, I mean just taken tonight.

(08:27):
I mean they were destroying him and mac Jones was
bearing the brunt of this, just getting hit over and
over and over and just multiple drives. When it was
twenty to twenty, he let him right down the field.
They started at the two yard line. I was like,
this is not gonna go well, and He had multiple
big passes, obviously a decent amount of his He was

(08:47):
thirty three to forty nine for three hundred and forty yards.
He had a bunch of checkdowns, but he had some
out routes, some like crossers over the middle, standing in
there till the last second getting hit. I have the
up most respect. I will never ever again make fun
of this guy because what I witnessed tonight, I've watched

(09:09):
a lot of football. I'm forty years old. I've been
watching football that comes to memory for thirty plus years,
and that that was a legendary performance when you factor in, listen,
pretty embarrassing that mac Jones is out there. You could
argue because brock Purty, who clearly they rush back on
the field, which to me kind of crazy given they

(09:31):
just gave him two hundred million dollars and he's got
turf toe, and then he plays in the game where
he was objectively awful, and it's pretty clear as toe
was fucked up in the game. He heard it even
more and who knows, like is he gonna go on
injured reserve Monday and be gone for four games? And
is season kind of lost? I mean, just a complete disaster.

(09:51):
You could make the argument that is like organizational mismanagement
to put a quarterback that you just gave all this money.
But because the they've loved Mac Jones as he came
out in the draft, they had him who was already injured.
He the only reason someone asked me tonight, like why
did Brock play last week and not mac Jones? Because
Brock was like sixty five percent and from what I heard,

(10:12):
mac Jones was like fifty five percent. So somehow the
forty nine ers have multiple quarterbacks who clearly like mac Jones.
We can make fun of him. The way he's playing
right now. He's starting caliber who were both injured and
mac Jones. I mean literally, I'm recording this. It's nine
o'clock at night. He's probably like seven percent wherever he's
sitting in the locker room, mac Jones is seven percent.

(10:35):
Perty's like probably like two percent, given that he probably
can't walk. I mean he could even make the trip
on his toe. Their quarterback situation, I just don't quite
understand what Kyle's doing. But I do think this gets
back to when you do not like they got lucky.
Trent Williams wanted to come here right, and he came
and their quarterbacks just get fucking pepper, and if mac

(10:57):
Jones wasn't the toughest sob on that field tonight, the
forty nine Ers would and pulled one of the crazier
upsotes I've ever seen. I mean, they came out the
game the game you could argue was one in the
first half, because that's when mac Jones was probably like
eighty percent and he was just lights out through multiple touchdowns.
I think he had like one hundred and forty yards

(11:17):
on two drives. By the end of the half, the
forty nine Ers had run forty plays and the Rams
had run twenty three. And even Kyle said at halftime,
our best defense was just keeping them off the field
and just having these long, sustained drives running clock and
it was seventeen seven and a half, so you just
kind of had some breathing room, but you knew it's like, well,

(11:39):
it's like DeVante Adams Puka, these guys are gonna score it,
and they came storming back, and the end of that game,
I mean, once it's twenty three to twenty and they're
driving and I respect McVeigh, it's like, yeah, you could
have you know, I guess that's overtime. Now I'm all
thrown off. Let me, let me, let me run this back.

(12:00):
Twenty three to twenty I guess they kicked the field goal,
so they were going to score. Okay, we got a
lot going on. I gotta take a deep breath right now.
I'm fired up. I'm excited. When they were driving that
it felt like the Niners only had one time out
in the fourth quarter somehow. I mean, of course he
had blown multiple timeouts in the second half that you

(12:20):
could argue it's like, bro, you can take a five
yard penalty in the third quarter instead of blowing a
timeout because you might need that thing. And the Rams
were kind of methodically at the end of the game,
and it looked like they were gonna score and there
wasn't gonna be enough time, and the Niners were gonna
be down four points because it was gonna be twenty
seven to twenty three, so they were gonna be forced to,
you know, drive the field with probably I don't know,
thirty forty seconds left on the clock. And Alfred Collins,

(12:44):
the guy that they just drafted in the second round
from the University of Texas, made I mean a play
that I would say indirectly won them the game, because
if Williams is just tackled on the one yard line,
they run out more clock. Maybe the forty nine burn
a time out, maybe they need Maybe they just kind
of keep bleeding it and score with not that much

(13:05):
time out, even though the forty nine ers then run
three plays, burn about fifteen seconds max off the clock,
And I think you could argue in my initial reaction
was like, Kyle, you don't need to be a plus
just you run a really high percentage pass play, maybe
like a screen dough Christian McCaffrey, maybe just a quick slant.

(13:26):
But I also when your offensive line is getting beaten
like a drum, the opportunity, which has already happened to
the forty nine ers this year, to get a holding
in the end zone all of a sudden it's a safety.
It's twenty two to twenty three, and you're punning it
off to them could have disaster written all over it.

(13:46):
So it is understandable why Kyle got so conservative in
that moment. It's understandable would have like to be a
little more aggressive. But again, when you got mckibbitz out there, understandable,
and then they held him to a field goal and
they won in overtime. But I think the other thing

(14:07):
that I wrote down is one thing tonight that was
very evident. And the Rams have been good at this
because their field goal kicker runs this like Tim Wakefield knuckleball. Well,
the forty nine ers, who you know, fred tails never fails,
Tails never fails. He calls heads flipped tails. Stafford picks
to play defense, which is the right call because the

(14:28):
forty nine ers one, they're picking to play defense too. Well.
The kicker fucked up, and I do believe that this
kickoff rule is paying dividends. It's made everything way more
interesting because he's been getting greedy and it's working. I mean,
early in the game, he's kicking these knuckleballs to sky Moore.
It's like bouncing off his knees, bouncing in the air.

(14:48):
I'm like this thing. I've watched the forty nine ers
special teams since Kyle's been here. This thing has disaster
written all over it. And then it's almost like a
golf shot. It's like he chunked it, mishit it. Somehow,
it doesn't even hit the twenty yard, doesn't get to
the twenty yard line. Boom, whistle blows. You get the
ball at the forty yard line, and then it's like
us check first down, McCaffrey, first down, tonj just first down.

(15:11):
You're already at like the thirty yard line. I mean
that key that like a change in the rule has
had dramatic impact on the sport, and you saw it
tonight and the forty nine ers boom, go right down
getting a field goal range. But when Matt Stafford then
they get the ball and Matt Stafford has that big
ball to to two out Well when they came back

(15:32):
from I think starting overtime, and the camera goes to
their sideline. Matt Stafford is on a knee, the receivers
are all huddled around him, and to two out Well
is sitting on the bench and Stafford's like Bill Walsh
on his hand drawn up a play. I think he
had drawn up because they knew whatever whatever you know,

(15:52):
h formation they were in. The safety was ending up
in one on one coverage with two two Outwell, who
is probably the fastest guy on the field tonight for
either team, and he knew, if we can get one
on one coverage, just run like a deep post. Just
go deep and he will not be able to run
with you. And I think Matt Stafford got a little
pressure and had to do that three sixty. But I
mean the forty nine ers just forcing a little pressure

(16:15):
might have saved the game because if he hits him
in stride, there's no way he catches him to two
out well walks in the end zone, kind of like
last week has a walk off touchdown. So just that play,
while it was a huge chunk players like fifty plus yards,
and I give Stafford credit for going like McVeigh, Shanahan
on his knee, the just the subtle pressure. The forty
nine ers, I mean they lost multiple defensive linemen, multiple

(16:40):
defensive linemen, and they're already missing Bosa. So by the
end of the game, their rotation instead of like going,
you know, eight to nine deep, is probably cut to
seven dudes. And these aren't exit two of them are rookies,
So that that play, that play was huge. And then obviously,
like I command McVeigh going for the win, I think

(17:01):
we all kind of felt like, are we gonna get
another tie? Who knows if he kicks a field goal?
You know, Mac Jones, is he lead them in the
field goal range. You can barely walk, you can barely breathe,
But I got no problem him going for it. I
think if you're a Rams fan, it's like you got
DeVante Adams, you got Pooka. That they are I would

(17:23):
say the two best. I mean, Pooka is the best
possession wide receivers, right, A quick out, a quick slant.
I mean one of Pooka's touchdowns was just your classic
kind of like bunch formation. He basically just slants it
to the ground and Stafford throws it to them. Why
wouldn't you run something like that. You could do it
on both sides with DeVante and Puka, those guys. God

(17:43):
put those guys on earth for like a fourth and one,
something quick that they are going to catch and Stafford
can throw them a ninety nine mile on our fastball.
The forty nine ers got lucky. It's like the best
player they got on the field is Fred Warner. The
two guys they drafted, you know, way of combined I
don't know, six hundred and thirty pounds in Collins and

(18:06):
in Williams from Georgia, so to go with just some
of their other defensive line bodies. And d Winners just
going like it was pretty clear too once they called
time out that it was like they were going to
do something bunched up and try to be aggressive. And
you know, I give them credit for going back to
Kerwin Williams who had fumbled earlier, but I think the
forty nine ers got to be very happy because listen,

(18:29):
as someone who was rooting for the forty nine ers
a night, I was glad they just didn't spread the
thing out. I was like, there's no way they're stopping that.
It feels like the forty nine ers have one, you know,
dependable corner in Lenore. But even if you have a good,
high end dependable corner, that guy still can lose in
a one on one matchup to a guy like Puka
or Davante. And upon Stout weighs, you know, one hundred

(18:50):
and forty pounds, so can wet and Ronaldo Green is
a second year player, that's you know, it's not like
he's Richard Truman out there, so your huge advantage was
right there, and they kind of they played into the
one place where the forty nine ers at least could
hang because as the game went, the forty niners aren't
gonna get as much pass rush. They're just not gonna
be able to cover those guys. I mean Stafford threw

(19:12):
for three hundred and eighty nine yards. I mean I
think in the first half. I didn't write down his stats,
but I don't think he had more than like a
hundred yards. I mean he had to. If I had
to guess, between overtime and the second half, threw for
close to three hundred yards. I mean the second half
he was slicing and dicing them because if you can't
get to him, that was the difference. Like mac Jones,

(19:34):
he had to check the ball down because he was
fucking getting annihilated. You know, Stafford has had some time
at some time. It's like throwing some deep cross or
throwing some deep out. I honestly cannot believe the forty
nine ers won this game. I honestly can't. It's one
of those that they're four and one. Now they get
this long break. They It's crazy how many games Kyle

(19:55):
has won against McVeigh. I mean, some of them aren't
as crazy. You know, when they got Deebo Samuel and
George Kittle, who have both had huge games against them,
McCaffrey in his prime a couple of years ago. I mean,
I got a lot of respect for McCaffrey too. He
clearly isn't the same player that he was a couple
of years ago. But he had eight catches for eighty
two yards. He had twenty two carries for fifty seven yards,

(20:17):
so he just accounted for, you know, thirty touches. I
mean I think at halftime he had eighteen. So with
Kittle nowhere to be found, you just kind of got
to rely on him, and it just kind of slows
down the game a little bit because the forty nine ers,
I mean they still had that many explosive plays. I
mean their most explosive run is eight yards. Kendrick Bourn

(20:39):
hit a couple big ones. I mean Kendrick Bourne ten
catches for one hundred and forty two yards, and I
think he had a drop he difin Yeah, I guess
he had. He had one target that he didn't catch,
so that was the drop. I mean, he was he
was remarkable, He really was. If you told me coming
into the game that Matthew Stafford would go thirty of

(20:59):
forty evan for almost four hundred yards and throw three touchdowns.
I would say, I bet the Rams will win this
game by ten points. And this gets back to you
could argue the game was one when the forty nine
Ers just threw fourteen points on the board within I
don't know, the first twenty minutes of the game. I

(21:19):
mean that first drive they had to open up the
game was an absolute clinic by Kyle. Like we can
be critical of Kyle where I don't know what you're doing,
but guys on your team are dropping like flies, but
at the same time, like you did a pretty good
job tonight. I mean, I think the Rams defense is
pretty good. I think they're well coached defense. They're clearly

(21:40):
one of the more physical units in the league. And
you know, total offense, we're talking let's see total yards
four hundred and seven yards. Like if you would have
told me that the Rams had obviously there was overtime
two but four hundred and fifty six yards. I mean,

(22:01):
the reason that I think most people would have been like,
you know, I know this eight and a half points,
huge points spread. Mac Jones, who are these guys? How
are the forty nine ers gonna score fifteen points? And
they had seventeen and a half so I mean, really,
even when you factor in overtime two they scored nine
points the rest of the game. They had a field
goal in the third quarter, they had a field goal

(22:22):
in the fourth quarter, and they had a field goal
in overtime. The other thing is, and this is why
people in forty nine er Land were so critical of
Jake Moody, that look at the Chiefs, right, look at
the Chiefs last year. They went fifteen and two, and
you could argue the last game doesn't even count. They
went fifteen and one. Every single game. Every you could

(22:44):
not turn on a Chiefs game, whether they were playing
the Raiders, whether they were playing the Bills, whether they
were playing the Ravens, or whether they were playing the
fucking Jacks. Every game looked the same. And having a
field goal kicker that you can depend on is massive
because you were gonna need. Obviously, the extra point now
is much more difficult. It's just the margin for errors

(23:05):
higher because it's a longer field goal than it was
years ago when it was basically a ten yard chip shot.
But to me, these field goals like Jake Moody, if
Jake Moody's still on their team, which they cut them
weeks ago, but like it was difficult for them to
cut them, and even Kyle said, part of the reason
it was hard because I envisioned him going somewhere else

(23:25):
and having success, because that's what happens to a lot
of kickers. Well, yeah, if he goes somewhere and has success,
you tip your hat, you say good job. But right
now you're not having any success for me, and you're
gonna cost me games. And the kicker changed tonight, saved
him because Eddie Pinero, I mean hit a fifty nine
fucking yard field goal. I mean that's when. Honestly, I

(23:47):
didn't know Eddie. I don't know that much about Eddie.
I mean, I'm not breaking down kickers, but when they
rolled them out, I'm like this, I get it. We
get to use these kicking balls throughout the week. Clearly
guys have more pos But what I think Eddie Pinero,
I don't know. I wasn't thinking like Sebastian Janikowski or
Justin Tucker, and he fucking drilled that thing. Drilled it

(24:10):
so you could argue Mac Jones and Eddie Pinniero make
the game. That's what if you're the Rams, that's gonna
be hard to sleep tonight. You just got beat by
Mac Jones who could barely walk and was puking throughout
the game, Eddie Pinero, and a bunch of guys that
casual football fans you know, couldn't point out of a lineup.

(24:35):
I mean that there are a lot of guys on
that field that you're like, who's this guy? Who's who's
playing defensive line for the forty nineers. You got Fred
Warner trying his damn just running around out there. I mean,
I don't know how many tackles he had, and I
probably my guess would be a lot. Uh Fred Warner
at twelve, I mean Siegel the rookie safety at thirteen,

(24:57):
which is not ideal when your safety leads the team
tackles land Man, that guy was making plays. That game
was phenomenal. My take to night was just like this
is one of my favorite games. Like you're talking to
a bias individual. I'm an NFC West guy, AFC West guy,
Like these are the teams that I like watching the most,
unless it's like Brady Manning, you know, Rogers, but like

(25:19):
this is my bread and butter, so I'd be dialed
into this game regardless what time of day Sunday, Monday, Thursday,
I don't care, But how thrilling that was. I mean,
one thing is that stadium pops on television. I don't
know the lighting the at night and there it works.
It's worked for years. I mean, going back to that

(25:40):
Charger Raider game a long time ago at so Far,
remember Week seventeen. Any night game there Chargers or the
Rams just pops. And this was thrilling. I mean, you're
on the edge of your seat and this was classic NFL.
You're like, this game shouldn't be good. I mean, I
think it closed at eight and a half points spread,

(26:01):
which with how many injuries the forty nine ers had,
you went, you know, how are they not gonna get killed?
But then you're watching pregame warm ups and Kyle's just
kind of like running around the field with a smile
on his face. And I'm getting a lot of texts
for forty nine or when I say people like fans,

(26:22):
they're like, Kyle seems awfully happy to be coaching mac
Jones here and it worked. That was I don't think
I've ever seen anything quite like that. I was seriously,
I mean, the backup quarterback, the gritty, just gutting it,
the toughness to win a game that felt like they
were not gonna win multiple times against a team that

(26:44):
if these were stocks and you go okay for the
next ten weeks, are you betting on the team with
a healthy Matt Stafford, a healthy DeVante Adams, a healthy
Poka Nakua, a healthy Jared Verse or whatever that is?
The forty nine ers are rolling out right. I mean
it's like it's like, well Brandon Ayuk John Lynch said

(27:04):
the other day, like he's nowhere close to coming back,
like Kitttle, I hope. I mean, I don't know. You
get hamstring injuries, you get it injured again, Brock Purty,
we ever gonna see him again? Mac Jones, is he
even gonna be healthy enough to play next week a
Tampa Like that'd be like a realistic question. Is he
gonna be healthy enough to play next week in Tampa?
And honestly, the thrillingness of this game, and I mentioned

(27:25):
it a little bit earlier, does overshadow If the forty
nine ers were in New York, if they were in Philadelphia,
I think there'd be a lot more vitriol and just
venom coming from the media at the forty nine ers
for the party situation now part of it. It was
a short week, so it's not like Kyle they did

(27:48):
zoom media calls. Everything happened pretty fast. But I do
think next week there are a lot of questions that
need to be answered about how did you put a
compromise player back? And I don't blame the player. You know,
brock Purty, chip on his shoulder guy, he would always
want to play, which I think we all respect, but
like there are things that are out of the We've

(28:10):
talked about this forever with concussions, right, It's like players
will go back if you let them. But when you
give a guy multiple hundreds of millions of dollars, you
call him the franchise quarterback, and he fucks up his
toe and there's a chance. And this gets back to
the Bosa situation that it's like, what are we doing?
Are we making sound decisions as a coaching staff with

(28:34):
our doctors, with our trainers of all the teams in
the league, it feels like there's no synergy, right, Like,
of course Brock Purty is gonna want to get back
on the field. You know why, because he's a fucking competitor.
You know why because he's seen multiple other guys in
his career be ahead of him, lose their spot because

(28:57):
they got injured and never see it again. He literally
took their spot. He's no dummy. You know the guy
he once replaced, Trey Lance, That guy was almost not
the pick because Mac Jones, who's now literally on the team,
is the backup quarterback. So if you're Brock Purty, yeah,
it's awesome getting these enormous direct deposits. But like the

(29:20):
one thing I think we'd all agree, like Brock perty
ain't playing for the money, so he's seeing that this
guy Mac Jones, who Kyle Shanahan once had a football
crush on and was talked out of taking, is now
his backup, came in and is winning games. You don't
think Brock's gonna want to go. Yeah, I'll just fucking
tough it out. I'm getting back on the field, and
that's where you go, Brock. The money is your security

(29:43):
that you're not going anywhere here. But we're not letting
you back on the field because his injury. I'm no
doctor here, but we've been all around long enough to
know this turf toe it went viral a couple weeks ago,
with Jason Kelsey describing it. I've had multiple people I'm
sure many people listening or watching this. No people that
have had it just as like a casual athlete, and
they're like, it's it's insane, so to put this guy

(30:06):
back and then a day later it's like, yeah, he's out,
and now rap sheet comes out before the Thursday night game,
Like who knows might be week to week, so is
he gonna have to go on injured reserve? Like I'm sorry,
Like that's ridiculous, What the fuck are we doing? Like
that cannot happen. I'm not comparing as a player to

(30:26):
Josh Allen to Patrick Mahomes, but like those teams treat
those guys with the utmost care when it comes to
their body, Like, hey, lamar injury out. You know why
you are a franchise. Now I understand it's a little
different with perty, like he's not at their level as
a player, but just in terms of the way he

(30:48):
was just compensated, you would think it was just operated
a little bit differently. And the win and being four
to Zho it's gonna overshadow that a little bit, but uh,
That's gonna be a major, major question, because I think
there's a decent chance by the time we get the
next week, is mac Jones gonna be able to practice
on Wednesday? And you could be like, well, John mac

(31:08):
Jones couldn't have gone last week against Jacksonville, and that
was probably true. What I was told is like Purty
was just better than mac Jones in terms of their
health status. So it's like neither was great. They just
went with the more healthy guy. How about this, scrap
them both, go with Adrian Martinez and just punt the
fucking game against the Jacks because this game against the
Rams way more important, way more important. And then you

(31:32):
lose the game against the Jags anyway, and you lose
this player for even longer. So I just think that
there's I've never witnessed anything like this, just the the
consistency of the injuries. I mean, every game, three or
four guys every game, like fucking clockwork. And then the
Purty thing's kind of icing on the cake. It feels

(31:54):
like something's not adding up. It's it's an embarrassing look
that there's no way around it, because like he's too
important other guys. Okay, rushing back whatever. It's like, we're
not that invested. But there are a couple of guys
on this team, like you know, Bosa, Fred Warner, Trent Williams,
the quarterback that like you probably take a different tactic

(32:17):
and they can back it up. And I'm sure Kyle
gets asked about it after the game. But it's an
embarrassing look, it really is. And I just think, you know,
you're four and one. It's awesome, but it's like that
this feels like it's being kept together by duct tape, right,
I mean, incredible effort by players coaches that are actually

(32:38):
on the field, but man, and that even things worse
with the Rams, Like that's who you just lost to?
What a game? Wow? Do I have anything else? I
want to hit on the kickoff rule versus a badass?
How can the Niners have this many injuries? Hold out?
I said, I respect any holdout out for Kyle Shanahan

(33:00):
because you literally might die on the field. Respect for
Rams DBS. I know Coward's talked about this. There there
usually aren't just like available defensive backs, right if you
need a defensive back or you need an offensive lineman
that they just don't come around the trade deadline. They're not.
It's like, oh, there's just hey man, you could trade

(33:21):
a second for like Lane Johnson. Like that, those don't exist.
No good offensive lineman is on the trade block during
the season. I would say the same thing for the
defensive backs. It's like the Rams, their defensive backs are
not that good. Which listen, you can't have a perfect team.
They've invested heavily in their offensive line. They are I
mean their offensive skill guys, their offensive lines okay when healthy.

(33:44):
They've invested heavily in their defensive line. It's like, well,
you just got I gotta get lucky on some dbs's corners.
Kind of suck, But what are you gonna do? Like,
there's not there's no Jalen Ramsey available, and whoever is
gonna be available is gonna come with a major red flag.
There's reason and he's available. I mean, look last year,
it's like all the Adam Peters traded for Marcus Lattimore.
How's that one working out? Guy? Looks terrible? So I

(34:09):
just think that it kind of is what it is.
And I've said this forever, like most teams are gonna
have some flaw, and I hear this a lot too,
and the Eagles complain about this, like, oh, our second
corner sucks. Welcome to the NFL. Most teams don't have,
you know, Mitchell and like Durel Reeves on the other side,
that's not usually the way it works. Be lucky that
you actually have, you know, six good starters out of

(34:32):
the eleven, and then you try to patchwork it around it.
You try to rotate guys in, you try to coach
them up scheme, and you know, get every advantage you can.
But you're gonna have situations where, you know, good offense,
and let's face it, even if you have a good
defensive backs like, good offense typically beats good defense. It's
kind of like basketball, right, It's like, yeah, you can
have the greatest defender in the world, like Michael Jordan

(34:54):
or Kobe Bryant's fadeaway is usually gonna you know, win
more often than not throughout the course of the game.
So I just think that I still think the Rams
are gonna be okay. Man, what a win. The Rams
get the Ravens, then they get the Jags, the Saints,
they'll be okay. The forty nine ers. This is where
the schedule, you know, four and one. Now you can

(35:17):
either you can go to Tampa and it's like you
can lose that game. You're four and too something. I mean,
that's probably one of the harder games on the schedule.
Then you get the Falcons at home Sunday Night football
the following week. That won't be easy. But you're facing
you know, rookie quarterback. I mean technically he's not a rookie,

(35:38):
but he has what he started three games last year.
He started by then six to seven games. So it's
a guy with you know, about ten starts to his
career under his belt. H Then you get the Texans
who have no offense. You gotta go to Houston the Giants.
Then you play the Rams again at home. You got
the Panthers on there, you get the Browns, the Titans.
This is what we're talking about. It's like there you've

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do think the Ravens are just gonna have a year
from hell. You know, Lamar Jackson's in, You're now Cooper
Rush is actually a respectable backup. He's no mac Jones,

(37:46):
but he's not terrible. This has like six wins written
all over it. And I think the big picture question
is that because they were losing games with Lamar Jackson, right,
they were losing games with Marlon Humphrey, using games with
Roquan Smith, I'm taking all those guys away. What do
you think is gonna happen? They're not just all of
a sudden gonna win like they are in major trouble.

(38:09):
Like you could look up and they could be two
and eight and it's just like that happens. Sometimes you
have all these injuries. There's no overcoming it. There were
some people and I defended them before. It's like, did
we miss our window? Is John Harbaugh the right guy
for the job. It's like, I do think you could
make the argument you missed your window, and that was
two years ago, when you had the loaded coaching staff

(38:30):
and the loaded team. It was right there for you. You
got the AFC Championship game at home, and you laid
an egg there's no way around it. Last year you
had the I don't know if you were to beat
the Chiefs, but you definitely had the better team than
the Bills, and you lost that game. Now it's the playoffs,
like Belichick lost to Rex Ryan. The playoffs are hard, right,
you play playoff Sean mcvay's lost some you know, killer

(38:54):
playoff games. It happens. This is not easy, but you
got to go was that our best opportunity? Now you're
not typically gonna be a team like picking eighth in
the draft, like potentially this year. But I think you
got to answer a big picture as we transition away
from some of these guys on the roster like Derrick Henry,
Marlon Humphrey. Some of these guys in like three years

(39:15):
are just not gonna be on the team. Lamar is
do you want John to be the coach? Like I'm
not sitting here, like I've always said with Mike Tomlin
and John Harbaugh's won a lot more playoff games recently
than Mike Tomlin. Though, I think Steeler fan will be like, well, yeah,
he says, fucking Lamar Jackson. You put Lamar Jackson on
the Steelers, it would just flip flop and you'd be like, yeah,
it's true. John Harball was on the hot seat the

(39:35):
year they drafted Lamar Jackson picked whatever thirty two right.
People forget they took Hayden Hurst ahead of him but
saved his career. Came in midway through the season for
Joe Flacco and they made the playoffs. But when you
lose and things were already a little weird, it couldn't
get over the hump, you know, with this guy, I
just I don't think they will fire him because I

(39:56):
also think, like, if you're gonna fire that's the thing.
If you're gonna fire Mike Tomlin, if you're gonna fire
a John Harbaugh, you gotta tell me who you're placing
him with, because you don't just fire a guy like that.
To just go on a search, you'd be crazy. You'd
have to have a specific guy. It's why last year
I said, listen, I would move on from Mike Tomlin

(40:17):
because Ben Johnson was available, and Ben Johnson, of all
these opportunities gonna turn on the Pittsburgh Steelers. No chance
or even a Mike Vrabel, who is like Mike Tomlin. Like,
if you were gonna do that you had a specific guy,
but they chose not to do that. But now you
look around, like, who's the Ben Johnson of this class?
Maybe Joe Brady, but that's pretty risky. I would say
Ben Johnson. Stock felt like, who knows, maybe as this

(40:41):
year goes, maybe Joe Brady, they win the Super Bowl,
it can get a lot higher. But I think that
makes it kind of difficult. Is you gotta have a replacement, right?
Who am I pulling the trigger here? Gonna make a change.
And again, I'm not acting like these guys suck Mike Tomlin,
John Harbaugh, these guys. Wherever Andy Reid got fired, he
got a job immediately, these guys would get hired immediately.

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I just think these conversations do gain a little more
steam when shit gets weird. It's what makes pro sports
kind of interesting. It's like you have these years year
from hell. People start asking questions, start looking at the
team I got. Some of these guys are not gonna
be around. Who knows. Metabuq a neck injury. It's one thing.
It's like, hey, you know, he broke his foot. He's

(41:23):
just gonna be probably out for three months, probably out
for the year, right, it's like a neck injury sometimes
stuff like that. It's like we look back three years
like his neck was never right. It's scary, right, It's
like the stuff with the back right. I mean, there
are injuries. You see Tyreek Hill's injury that really quick.
On Tyrek Hill. I was actually in the car the

(41:44):
other day in the afternoon and if you go to
Fox Sports, I'm a serious XM guy, and I was
listening they Nick first things first was on and Nick
Wright and Broussard. We're talking about Tyreek and his and
his credentials for the Hall of Fame. And I guess

(42:05):
Colin had said that he didn't think he was a
Hall of Famer. I think and this is where like
you look at the total like he's not gonna have
Jerry Rice's longevity. But that's not gonna be the case here.
Tim Brown played for like three decades, his career, decent
chances is over now. I will say this, Tyreek Hill
is a no doubt about it, hall of famer. In
my mind, he is easily one of the best players

(42:29):
I've ever seen in the position, and in his peak,
he was an elite of the elite. It's my issue
going into the Hall of Fame. I always say, like
you could say his career wasn't that long. I thought
you could argue that Tyreek had the biggest play in
Andy Reid's career. The Chiefs were gonna lose that Super Bowl.

(42:50):
People forget because long time removed. They've been to a
bunch since third and fifteen. I think they called it
wasp kind of big play change the game. So and
I mean, there's no disputing his ability in the biggest
games his career. Obviously with Mahomes whatever it was four years.
And listen, the Dolphins are a joke. Well they got
Tyreek Hill in his prime and he fucking dominated with Tua.

(43:14):
So to me, I wouldn't even hesitate when it comes
to Hall of Fame. The other thing is we have examples.
It's like the law, you know, with precedent. It's like
we have precedent set before of guy like Terrell Davis.
So your career, it's not like, hey, it's impossible to
make the Hall of Fame unless you have minimum like
a ten year career, Like that's that's out the window. Right.

(43:37):
Kurt Warners had like peak years of like a total
of what like five he had a longer career, but
like he had the three or four, you know, peak
years in Saint Louis and then a couple more in Arizona.
But like Tyreek, once he was good, he was non
stop good until basically now. And I think and again
they showed that on Monday Night football. I just saw

(43:59):
the end result when his leg was pointing the right
the wrong way, and I never looked again. But by
all accounts, obviously the kneecap, the acls, the ligaments for
a guy that's predicated on speed, you never say never
with modern medicine, but it doesn't look great. But even
if he never plays another snap in a regular season game,
if I was a voter, I wouldn't hesitate to go

(44:20):
first ballot Hall of Fame or Tyreek Hill. You know
everyone has said about the Shador Sanders meme mime thing

(44:41):
of not saying anything. I the first time I watched
it a couple of days ago, I had to rewind
because I thought, like my AirPods weren't connected to the bluetoothe. Honestly,
for like a minute, I was like, what is what
she's saying? And then I realized it. And then this
morning I saw Schefter say that he's reacting to Adam
Schefter overall. And this all gets back when you sign

(45:06):
up for the Browns like the circus continues, and obviously
to me, I would not have recommended to him to
do this. I think this is a pretty easy one.
I can't wait to do whatever they need me to do.
I'm a fifth round third string quarterback, right, I'm backing
up a guy, and I'm gonna keep saying this. I

(45:27):
Am not a Dylan Gabriel as a prospect. I would
not have drafted him. If you'd have said, Middlkov, was
he on your draft board, you could have said no,
I would not have drafted him one through seven undrafted
free agent. Sure would not have used a draft pick
on Dylan Gabriel. But listen, there's different strokes for different folks.
There is no disputing his resume in college, and we'll

(45:48):
see how it goes in the NFL. I doubt it
goes well. Why because the brown suck. But he was
given the opportunity. Ozzie Knewsom called them, Howie Roseman called
them like. Even the Eagles who this Aj brown AJ's
like were the one hundred million dollars, all Pro super
Bowl champ. Even when he does something dumb, he'll come
back the next day. Even if he's lying, which I

(46:09):
kind of think he is. He's pretty good at like, yeah,
I didn't mean it. I should talk to you guys.
I'm better than that. Like I do think he's lying,
but I respect it, Like there's a way to be
a pro and he knows right, And I just think
there is a level when you get in that building
and you're around Jordan Mylotta, Saquon Barkley, right, You're just
around these guys, Brandon Graham, those guys are still around

(46:33):
the building. It's just Vic Fangio. You know, it's Sirianni
now has a Super Bowl championship. It's like it's John Harbaugh,
Lamar Jackson. You had the opportunity to go there, Instead
you chose the clown show and that's the Browns, and
then you become part of it and it becomes a

(46:53):
circus and the whole thing's just kind of embarrassing. So
it's like, I go back to this, all could have
been somewhat avoidable. Though He's not, like there's no guarantee
he beats out Cooper Rush, probably doesn't, so he's probably third.
He's not even in this game. If he had got
drafted by the Ravens, I would say he's probably the
backup to Cooper Rush in this game. Like he's he's

(47:13):
a third stringer in all these places. He's not beating
out Tanner McKee. But I think I saw Orlovsky say this.
You go to the right places. That's who teaches you
how to win, how to be a pro, how to operate,
you know, and you chose to go to the Browns
somehow is run by these two Ivy League guys and
it's just I mean, it's like the same shit every year.

(47:37):
And now you kind of fall into that and you
do the mimes and it just becomes like the biggest
story in football. And this is also where you got
to be very careful about becoming just like this negative
aura around you, you know. And that was a situation
that if anyone you know, worth their salt would have

(48:02):
been like, bro, there's a terrible idea to do. Not
do this. I mean, it ain't worth it. But in
Cleveland everything is worth it. You can do whatever you want.
And last, but not least, I do think this is
a massive massive week for the Bills because you look
around the NFL, I'm rooting for the Bills to win
the Super Bowl this year. I think it would be incredible.
I mean, I really do. I want the Buffalo Bills

(48:24):
to be the Super Bowl champs. I think it would
be great for the fan base. I think it would
be just I just think it would be an awesome
NFL story. And when you look around the landscape, even
look at who whoever in the AFC is gonna play
a lot of question marks. Right the Lions, I mean,
they might get their stuff together, but they still have
an offensive coordinator that's calling place for the really the

(48:45):
first time. We'll see how it continues over the years,
and a first time defensive coordinator. Obviously, they got really
good players Eagles loaded roster, not quite as good as
last year, but still really damn good and it's going
to be a major factor. And they got an elite
defensive coordinator, an excellent offense skill Guys. I know they're
playing like shit on offense for the most part, but
at any moment, you know, aj Brown can break a

(49:06):
fifty yard play, Sakuon can take one of the house.
But the AFC, it's like the Chargers injuries, they're in shambles.
You know, the Chiefs are gonna be tough, but they've
already got two losses. The Ravens are out of this,
Like are you losing sleep to a forty two year
old Aaron Rodgers. So it's like this type game. You're

(49:26):
playing the Patriots, who's got a little momentum because they
just got to play the the Porta Potti Panthers, and like,
this is a game if you're the real deal, like
you squash them, like you win this thing, like thirty
five to fifteen, Like you crush them. I kind of
like the Bills to do that. The only thing that
gives me a little hesitancy is just you know their defense.

(49:49):
You watch them last week. Listen. I think the Saints
actually offensively are not bad. But I think this is
a big week for the Bills. I think I think
this is all opening up for them right now. And
that's where the Chiefs are like, don't forget about us,
and last, but not least last year. I think I
would do this on Mondays. I would do the do

(50:09):
the worst teams in the league, like the penthouse in
the outhouse and the Panthers had a stretch where they
were so bad they looked like one of the worst
teams we'd ever seen, you know, early on in Bryce
Young and then when Andy Dalton got there, he didn't
win I think his first game, but then it kind
of progressively got worse and it was like, this is
this is unwatchable. I called them the porta potty Panthers

(50:33):
and at the Ryder Cup because I kind of compared
him to you know, when you were at an event
and you go to a porta potty that is just
the most disgusting porta potty you ever went in. I
do believe at the Ryder Cup probably at like three
in the afternoon. So think about this, they tee off
at seven in the morning. So that porta potty, it
was Friday, even if it got cleaned out the night before,

(50:53):
had gotten you know, eight plus hours worth of work,
and it was easily and you had to factor in
it's ninety degree, it's humid. You know, where the seat
is basically all full. It's just like, uh, it's got shit,
it's got toilet paper, it's got you know, urine, people

(51:14):
probably pouring drinks in there. I mean, it's just full
to the brim and that heat and humidity, that smell.
It's the worst porta potty. Now, the actual porta potty
was nice, but in terms of the smell, I think
it's the worst one I've ever been to. I walked
out in Terrence, who's sales guy for US. I said,
I think if you paid my my wife might turn

(51:35):
down walking in there for a million dollars. It was
that bad. And there were a couple like women I
saw before I got in there that had like turned
around and went to another one. And I do think
the Titans are approaching that level of stink like it's
it's really bad. Uh. Cam Ward called the team ass,

(51:56):
which I saw Brian Callahan kind of come back and
say he gonna learn that. It's like he's gonna learn
what this is ass like this this team is. This
team's awful. Bro. I'm rooting for you, Brian Dala salgrad
U c l A guy. I want to like you,
but your team is ass. So I I think cam
Ward has nothing to apologize. He wasn't even taken shot

(52:17):
at anyone. He was just saying we basically we suck.
He's he's factual and that they're they're really bad. Uh,
the Jets are are really horrendous in Carolina who did
have the one moment against Atlanta that game last week
against the Patriots. Whenever I'd look over it was like,
thirty five three forty five three is like JESU, this
is this is stinky porta potty level bad. I would

(52:40):
not include the Saints in there. And I know the
Saints have not won a game. I know they I
know they are zero to four. I think the Saints
offense is pretty good. I like the receivers. Kamar is
a stud to me. He's got you know, trade deadline
written all over him. Yeah, Rattler's not terrible. I just
think defensively they stink and special teams have got some issues.

(53:03):
But like offensively, if you're a Saints fan, you go
Kellen Moore down on us some place, they got some
explosive I would not put them like they're a porta potty,
but like you know, when you walk in the porta
potty has just been clean, it's like, actually, it's not
that bad, especially if you go in early in the
morning somewhere, Like you know, when you work, like if
you work construction and you get to the side at
like six in the morning. It's chilly outside, and you

(53:23):
walk in. It doesn't even smell like Gods like fresh
air in here. It's clean, it's been clean the night before.
I would say that that's their level of porta potty.
The Titans are the ryder cup porta potty, which again
is the most disgusting smell and just that that humidity
of all the fecal matter and the urine that is

(53:46):
just sitting in the air. But you like you have
no choice, like you've been holding the piss for like
three holes. I gotta go bad. You can't really go
in the trees because there's cops around. You never know, uh,
New York City maybe get trouble. You're like not not
worth it, so you just just hold it. You wait
in line, and then you just open that door and
there's no turn around. You just you just gotta let
it rip. And that's uh, that's the Titans. The volume

(54:15):
mm hmm
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