3 & Out - Reaction to Brock Purdy & 49ers DOMINATING Philip Rivers & Colts on MNF - The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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The volume. What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff three
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Zone Pouches. How is everybody doing? Probably not as well
as Brock Purty, who led the forty nine Ers to
five touchdowns and a blowout would be strong, but a
commanding victory over the I almost just said the San
Diego Chargers, the Indianapolis Colts forty eight to twenty seven.

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The Niners are eleven and four, and the Colts, I
would say, are unofficially done for the season, especially with
that defense. Good luck against the Jags, but we'll dive
into that game off the top. Obviously, Christian McCaffrey dominated,
George Kittle Doom dominated but got injured. Philip Rivers, I
think we gotta give him his flowers. I thought he

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was really good. It definitely was not his fault that
they lost by a couple of touchdowns. That's for damn sure.
I mean, the Colts defense was just atrocious. DK metcalf
has been suspended for the next two games without pay.
Also brings in the light that the Steelers could like
void a bunch of money in his contract, essentially get

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out at the end of the year, and Bill Belichick
has hired Bobby Petrino. Think Arkansas, Think Harley Davidson, think
a ditch, and think another dude's wife that Bobby Petrino.
So we will dive into that as well as along
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good games. This Christmas is just terrible. So unless there's
like a catastrophic injury to like I don't even want
to say the name, but like a player that's going
to impact the playoffs, which would probably just be the Broncos,
we'll have a podcast tomorrow and then we're probably off
till Saturday night when there's a couple NFL games. So
other than that, let's dive into some football. To me,

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the headline of the night was obviously the offense, but
specifically the quarterback. And there is never going to be
a conversation with Brock Purdy where he just becomes Everyone
universally agrees he's going to be a polarizing quarterback, whether
he one day wins a Super Bowl, when he has
games where he throws a couple interceptions, when he has

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games when he throws a bunch of touchdowns. But he
became the first forty nine er tonight to throw five
touchdowns in a game since Steve Young did it back
in nineteen ninety five against the San Diego Chargers, where
I think Jerry had three, Ricky Waters had three. I
just think this. I was born in nineteen eighty four.
My dad was a die hard forty nine er fan.

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I don't remember Joe Montana in his prime, but I
love football. I've seen enough highlights and YouTube clips. You know.
I grew up on Steve Young, who looked a lot
different than perty given that he was a left handed quarterback.
But that's had to like tonight. I'm not talking about
his career. I'm talking about tonight. What peak Joe Montana
looked like. I mean, that was that was a marvelous performance.

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There was nothing he wasn't doing I mean, he was
in complete control of the football game. And here's the
thing in years past, the one kind of I don't
It wasn't a knock for me because most good players
play with other good players. Last time, I Jeck Peyton
Manning was throwing to Marvin Harrison. Pretty sure Marvin Harrison's
in the Hall of Fame. You know, Tom was throwing
to Rob Gronkowski and Julian Edelman who was a Super

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Bowl MVP, and Randy Moss and Wes Welker, Joe wont
Hannah throw it to Jerry Rice. I don't know, just
the greatest wide receiver of all time. Usually play with
good players. But everyone's like, oh, he's playing with Debo,
He's playing with Brandon Ayuk. It's like, doesn't get any easier.
Well tonight I looked at It's like DeMarcus Robinson. It's
Kendrick Bourne, who didn't even have a home when the
season started. Is Juwan Jennings, which most of his careers

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is considered like a third wide receiver. Now, George Kittle,
and we'll dive into him in a second, is a
Hall of Fame level guy. But the other wide receivers
are you know again, a lot of Kendrick Bourne, a
lot of DeMarcus Robinson. This guy named Sky Moore and
Brock was brilliant and they're gonna need him to be
because you know, defense is going to be a challenge

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with Fred Warner and Nick Bosa at home, you know,
in a Lake cast and a Nie Leef. So he
has now ideally you don't have to do that, throw
five touchdowns, but that's as good of a game, you know,
trying to remember as he's ever played. I mean, seriously,
now I understand because you're be like, well, who's he playing? Yeah,
he wasn't playing the eighty five Beers. Sauce Gardner's on

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the sideline. Tarvarius Ward, his former teammate, is on the sideline.
But he made them look like a JV team, and
you would think a team that's still fighting for their
playoff lives. It was stealing candy from a baby. And
some of the passes guys were wide open and some
of them, I mean, there was a drive where he
threw two touchdowns on the same drive. The touchdown he

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threw in the back of the end zone, end zone
to Tanjas where he did get both feet in. Kyle
Shanahan has a lot of strengths. I mean, he is
a brilliant offensive play caller. He's been a fantastic head coach.
He's resurrected the forty nine ers, He's done an excellent job.
He could drive some of us nuts at times, but
overall he is a fantastic coach. He is horrendous with challenges.

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I mean, I haven't watched every single coach challenge every
single play of their career, but and I'm not even
basing it on the numbers, he just has NOE. Whatever
their communication the guy upstairs, I mean the challenge he made,
I think the Pittman's drop, which was a clear catch,
and then he doesn't challenge the touchdown, which even Troy's like,
that's that's in Now again, we're sitting on our couch.

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But they should have a guy who essentially is doing
what we're doing, sitting on a couch up in the
booth and be like, Kyle challenge that, or Kyle don't
challenge that. Whoever that guy is, Kyle needs a fire
him because that guy is doing a terrible job and
it costs perty. I mean, one of the great plays
of his career, rolling to his right, hitting the guy,
you know, rolling out, especially Jake TONGJS that's gonna be

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the greatest catch he's ever had. Doesn't even count. But
you know, Kittle was dominant tonight. Christian McCaffrey was dominant
tonight catching the ball, and that saves the forty nine
ers offense because he turns into a wide receiver out
of the backfield. Unless you have you know, Ray Lewis
or Patrick Willis in their prime, you're just not gonna
cover him. And he's so good. His rapport with Brock

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is excellent. But what a performance. And you know you
paid a lot of money for this guy. He'd been
He got the turf toe situation the last couple of weeks,
and I get it was the Tennessee Titans, but to
go from Tennessee and to roll it right into this
game on Monday night football on the road with you know, technically,
once you're in the playoffs, none of these games or

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technically must win anymore, though, which I still think is
an uphill battle. They do control their own destiny. If
they win these next two games, they are the number
one overall seed, which would honestly be the craziest football
thing I've ever seen in my life if they were
able to accomplish it. Now, I think before we dive
into some else from this game, they're getting royally fucked

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this week. I mean, they played and listen, I understand
they had the last bye week of the season for
any NFL teams. They had the latest bye week possible,
but the NFL put them on Monday Night football, which
Indianapolis is in the Eastern time zone. I'm pretty sure
it's give or take a four hour flight from where
they fly from San Jose, so by the time that

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they get home to night, I don't know, it would
be three four in the morning. It's going to be Tuesday.
The Chicago Bears played on Saturday, so they get it's
sometimes Thursday night football during the season that happens, but
to happen on Christmas week a time advantage is pretty nuts.
Like it is, it is what it is, but it

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is a massive rest prep just freshness advantage for the Bears. Also,
on Saturday, they played at home, so that there was
no travel. I mean, the forty nine er coaches, they're
gonna land, They're just gonna have to go to work now,
I would imagine they were able to do some prep
work today. But you can't go all in because eventually
you kind of got a lock back in on this game,

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and you can't be thinking about the Bears when you
want to be fresh about the Colts, and you know,
get your thoughts all convoluted not even knowing what's going on.
So there's a very I've talked to coaches about this.
There's kind of a fine balance when you're in that situation.
But you got no choice, especially what's you know on
the line moving forward that you could potentially get another
buy right already beat Seattle. You know them pretty well,

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you know Sam Darnold pretty well. I'm not saying it's
gonna be easy, but this Bears is an uncommon opponent.
It is a massive advantage for Ben Johnson his coaching staff.
I mean, everyone in the forty nine ers probably gonna
have to pop like seventy five milligrams atter all tomorrow
to even function because I mean, how much you actually
sleep on the plane. You're adrenaline after a game. You
probably fall asleep the last couple hours once you touch down.
Even for the players, I mean they'll probably treat this

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week from a practice standpoint, much more like a Thursday
night week and Chris McCaffrey's gonna need it. I mean,
there were so many times a night you know, Perty's
probably be pretty fresh. And he looks and again I
was dubious just because of the extent and the way
people talk about these injuries, how they just don't go away.
I would say whatever him and Joe Burrow did in

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terms of the rest, the relaxation, avoiding surgery, Burrow just
looked really good. I get it was the Dolphins, but
you know, Purty looked like I said, best game of
his career, and McCaffrey looks like he's really coming on.
But again he takes a pounding and Aikman mentioned it
tonight and forty nine er fans have been saying this forever.
It's like, listen, Kyle, we understand this guy's a Hall

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of Fame level player, but he plays a position that
is so physically taxing, and he's a guy that's had injuries.
You gotta be careful about just leaving him in there.
There was a point in time in the game they're
up two touchdowns. He's getting carries my eight month pregnant
wife looks at me. She's like, why is he still
in the game. I'm like, well, Kyle, just Brian Robinson's

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got a beg to get a touch and they mentioned
it tonight. Jonathan Taylor leads the league in getting eighty
three percent of the snaps for running back. Number two
is Christian McCaffrey in eighty two percent. Now I'm not
saying it should be fifty to fifty, but god, I mean,
there are times when it's like, Okay, we're up two touchdowns,
we'll get the ball back. He's not coming back in
the game. He's not gonna take some meaningless hit. When

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halfway through most games he comes to the sideline, you
can tell he's just he's just getting obliterated, you know.
And it's not like they're running these tosses on every
play where he's getting out of bounce. I mean, he's
going between the ten as NonStop. And you know, when
it works, when it is effective, when Kyle Shanahan's offense
can dominate the line of scrimmage, which did tonight. You know,

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Christian McCaffrey had twenty one for one point seventeen. They
ran thirty one carries for one hundred and forty five
yards and almost you know, average four point eight yards
of carry. You you're not going to stop their offense
because their passing game is predicated on the run game.
This is not Sean McVay, this is not Andy Reid,
this is not Kevin O'Connell that has wet dreams about

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throwing it fifty times a game. And I got no
issue with that. Listen. I like passing the ball as
much as the next guy, but Kyle wants to dominate
on the ground to then pass and his passing game.
Jay Gruden came on the show I think I don't
know within the last year and said, you know, the
forty nine ers like studying the Shanahan family over the years,
but specifically Kyle, like his drop back passing game is

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not what people go to study. It's the run game
to the play action. And then because of Perty's athleticism,
like he can really really add lib And there were
a couple times a night even Troy said when he's
scrambling to his right, he's got a little gun slinger
in him, like he kind of as tempted to throw
back across his body over the middle of the field,
especially in the red zone, and I think like Kyle's

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in the back of his head making sure that he
doesn't do it, because he just threw it away tonight.
You can't throw any interceptions on a game when your
defense is just given up first down after first down
to Philip Rivers. But when you're they're gonna run it
like this, they're gonna be really, really tough to beat.
And you know McCaffrey, Brian Robinson, but really it's just
McCaffrey when he's gonna play like that, and then when

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he gives you out of the back or the in
the receiving game, he's just an unstoppable force. And George Kittle,
who got hurt, I think early in the fourth quarter.
It might have been late in the third quarter. I
really believe this. He is Hopefully he's fine. I know
he rolled his ankle. I'm doing this right after so
I don't get to hear the press conference or anything.
But it's not like he had to go to the

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blue tent or went to the to the locker room.
I think they the forty nine ers are very cautious
when they play an artificial turf because over the court,
I mean, they've had a million injuries. On they'd have injuries.
You know, sleep on a sleep number bed, you know,
so it doesn't matter where they are. A forty nine
er player can get hurt doing anything at any moment, anytime.

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But on turf, they've had devastating injuries, and I think
they're very, very reluctant in situations. It was still, you know,
the game was in the balance, but he never went
back in the game. And I just think that when
he's been healthy this season and he the first game started,
he dominated, and he pulled his hamstring and he came

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back within a couple of games. Up until now, he's
as dominant as any player in the league. When you
factor in how good he is as a run blocker,
I mean he's he's kicking out defensive ends, he is
leveling linebackers, and in the passing game he feels as fast.
And he had the one. I don't even want to
call it a drop. It would have been a tough

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play for like, you know, he moss in the corner
of the end zone, but it's a play I bet
he would say, you know, I should make. And other
than that, I mean high pointing balls, catching balls on
the run, running over guys. He's a really special player.
And when I think of, you know, the best forty
nine er players of all time, at least you know
since of the Eddie de Bartelo, Bill Walsh, Era on

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are clearly Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Ronnie Lott, and Steve Young.
And then there's a group of a bunch of other guys,
right you know, Joe Staley, Frank Gore, Patrick, Willis, Navarro,
Bowman would have been that he got injured, I would
say Trent Williams clearly the moment he got there. He's
gonna go down as a Hall of Famer and has

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been a dominant, dominant player. But for forty nine ers,
I think George Kittle's right there on that list. He
is he might be the defining player because he's been
here the entire time. For Kyle him or Fred Fred too.
I forgot about him because he's injured, But like he
is just such a he's just such a unique player.

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You just don't see that often. Like you could tell
after the game he went up to Warren. I'm sure
we talked to him at tight End University. You know, listen,
Warren tries as a blocker. He's not bad, but he's
if he's gonna have a great career, he's gonna be
dominant catching the football because of his height, because of
his ball skills. I mean, he's a really really talented player.
I just there aren't as many guys anymore, and there
used to be more in the NFL because it used

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to be more of a run heavy league. So many
teams in college ran quote unquote pro style offenses. It's
why Iowa produces so many physical tight ends because you
gotta put your hand in the dirt and you got
to block if you're gonna get on the field. You
can't just be And there's nothing wrong with it the
way the game is played now. But a lot of
these guys are essentially slot receivers, and you could argue

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they're unstoppable slot receivers because they're six three to six five,
they all run four fives, and they have ball skills
like a wide receiver. Who's the forty nine ers have
a really good young slot corner uped In Stout. I
think he weighs like one hundred and sixty pounds, you know,
So what's you can't put upon Stout? On Tyler Warrant

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it's not even the math doesn't math. It's like you
know in basketball, when when all of a sudden you
look in Chris Paul's garden, Kevin Garnett or Anthony Davis,
it's like, well, this is not gonna work. And I
think George is so special that way, just because he
does it all and it's a breed a player that
just doesn't really do that anymore. You know, you look

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at the Bears drafting Lovelin again, freak talent, elite ball skills,
excellent athlete like he's never he wouldn't have a chance
on God's green Earth to even hold Miles Garrett for now,
you know, a millisecond. It just wouldn't even be possible,
you know. And that's where George really separates himself. So

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I just think the forty nine ers are very, very
dependent on him being healthy with this team because they're
an offensive team. I mean, we'll get into Philip Rivers
here in a second, but there it's just I think
the sad part is is if Fred and Nick would
not have had season ending injuries and been on this

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team the entire time, I think they would have been
the Super Bowl favorites in the NFC. Now, they still
would have had some flaws on defense, but I think
those guys would have made up for so much. You
could argue if just Fred was on this team, I
would be like, yeah, they can win the NFC. But
it is really difficult when it's just backups everywhere in

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a pass rush that really struggles to get home against
a team tonight that was running out a bunch of
backup offensive linemen. They play really hard and Saul has
done an excellent job, but there is just no replacing
those two players, and specifically Fred, because you know, I
think it's sad because this offense, the way they're playing

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right now, especially assuming Ricky Piersoll will come back, I
do think is as good as any in the NFC.
Ate a little too many shake shack fries here tonight,
but just a fantastic win for the forty nine ers,
a fantastic season, and it is absolutely insane. Honestly, it's

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it's a testament to both these teams. The Bears a
little different, but like if I would have told you
two months ago that going to this game that both
these teams, especially after the Niners lost Fred and Nick Bosa,
that they would already clinched, and both these teams would
have a chance to potentially be the number one overall seed.
You would have been like, are you on crack cocaine?
What are you talking about? So Sunday Night Football Bears

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forty nine Ers just a fantastic matchup. Now, Like I said,
the rest advantage is huge. I do think that the
forty nine Ers is not really gonna be able to
practice much this week. You know. Gonna be big for
them is do just Pierce All come back and even
makes their offense more explosive? What is George status? And
the other thing with the forty nine ers, they're unlike
any other team. You just come out of a game

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and all of a sudden, it's like, ah, so pulled hammy,
so and so is just he's gonna be day to
day or week to week. You're like, what, he just
played sixty steps, he just made the d winners. You
know this had a great interception against Philip Rivers. So yeah,
tweaked his hamstring what I don't know, maybe walking back

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to the locker room. It happens all the time. So
you just because you cut him out of a game.
On the forty nine Ers, excelling playing making plays does
not mean that you will be on the practice field
in two days for them on a Wednesday. Don't ever
that no team can all of a sudden add guys
to an injury report. I mean they add guys to
the injury report during the weeks of practice. So you

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just got to keep your fingers crossed if you're them,
because they don't have many guys to lose. And the
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split second, watching that fifty three run, it reminded me
of Navarral Bowman, which made me a little nostalgic, because God,
I love Navarral Bowman. He's actually coaching with with Jim
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it's really a tale of the two sides of the ball.
I think what Philip Rivers of the Night was was exceptional.
I mean, I was blown away. I thought he was.
If you said, John, what grade would you give him?
Like A maybe just because the pick six a minus.
But at that point in time, you're down a couple
of scores, you kind of have to force it. It's

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why he's throwing a lot of interceptions over the course
of his career with the Chargers. But twenty three to
thirty five or two hundred and seventy seven yards, I
mean the first couple of drives of the game is
first drive of the game. He threw for seventy yards.
And I said this all week, and I get it.
Like the Colts have really good wide receivers, right Pierce
the stud downs is good. I've liked Pittman since he

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was a college at USC. You know, Warren is probably
one of the best young, you know, skill guys tight
end wide receivers in the NFL. Obviously Jonathan Taylor. They
showed the statistics during the game. Running the ball has
been a challenge since their quarterback position is kind of
fallen apart. But he still had what he had three
cats for thirty three yards. Like he's such an all

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around player. I just don't think you can ask much more.
And I get the forty nine ers defense isn't great,
but the understanding of the offense. The audio they had
in the Monday night football game with I don't know
if the MIC's close. Maybe it has to do with
the dome setting in Indianapolis. How clear you could hear
him audibling at the line, which I would imagine They're

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gonna have to check all their calls next week for
the Jags, because you can't tell me that the Jags
defensive coaches. Every time the TV copy, you're gonna go
through that, rite down what he said and then match
it up with the play, So they're gonna have to
change the calls. But his control, understanding of the offense,
the one play at the end of the first half
that he that he misses the Warren because he kinda

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he doesn't step up. I thought he was brilliant tonight.
I mean, when you factor in that he's forty four,
forty five years old, he hasn't played in five years.
I mean, I feel at minimum he's better than I'm
not talking about the injured guys. I'm talking about the
starters at the beginning, like he's Tua makes fifty million dollars.
Philip Rivers in a different universe than Tua as a

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player isn't even close. I mean that's I'm dead serious,
and I'm not picking on Tua here, but I'm just
thinking of quarterbacks throughout the NFL that it's like he's
better than that guy. Like he's just a better player
than starters in the NFL at forty four, forty five
years old. And the other thing that brings me joy
is I just imagine Brady and Peyton with kind of

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a huge smile slash jealousy watching him play, like I
want to do that, Like could I still do that?
I mean, I can't even imagine how many quarterbacks around
the NFL that are I would say, forty early forties
to fifty years old, that maybe go out in the
backyard during Christmas and throw a little with their son

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and go I think I could still do it. I
think I could still you know, warm this thing up.
I think I still got a few more bullets in
the gun. Because he can't move and even the night
he threw the one completion when he scrambled to his left,
but his anticipation and part of it is unique situation
that he's been calling this offense so as the play

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caller of the offense, which he's already been in before
as a player, his understanding of the routes are just
no different than it would have been if he'd been
playing in it his whole time. But it's another thing
to just go out there. Even my wife looks at me,
She's like, has he been like training for this? I'm like,

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how could he? He's been coaching high school like. I'm
sure he's going on the elliptical. I'm sure he's getting
some pumps in throughout the week and probably throwing a
practice a little bit. But is he putting in the
work that he would have done seven eight years ago
preparing for training camp? That there's zero chance, I mean none.

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And obviously he's put on a little weight. Maybe you
could argue his arms a little fresher because of that.
I truly thought that that's these two weeks. But specifically
a night on Monday night football with his family, there
was that visual after the game of John Lynch, and
they showed that video that Lynch, who I guess knocked

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Drew Brees and hurt his shoulder back in two thousand
and five, which was the reason that Philip Rivers came
in and obviously never relinquished that spot until he went
to the Colts in twenty twenty. So think about John
Lynch knocked out Drew Brees in that game playing for Denver,
who Mike Shanahan was his coach. Philip Rivers comes into

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that game. Drew Brees' career with the Chargers ends, obviously
the domino effect of him getting denied in Miami by
Danny Kanell's dad who says his shoulders fucked up. Nick
Saban doesn't sign him. He goes to the Saints with
Sean Payton. I mean, some crazy butterfly effects there. But
you could tell John Lynch standing there, who is just

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I mean talk about a guy that just loves football,
like loves the grit and the mud of it, like
the just the shit that most people just want to
play the games. John Lynch likes all the other stuff.
And you could tell the reverence and just the admiration
he had for the competitor in this old grizzled gunslinger

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that just comes out of nowhere, gets his family five
more years of health insurance on the NFL's dime, and
just throws for almost three hundred yards against Robert Sala,
who everyone's tweeting, everyone's writing is like a lock to
become a head coach, and I get it. He's got
some random guys out there, but Rivers like boom boom boom,

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boom boom. It's like, this is fucking awesome. I'm rooted
for the Niners, I bet on him, I root for
him naturally, And I was just like, hell yeah, I was, honestly,
And I got a text from a Niner buddy that's like,
Rivers deserve better when he threw that pick six, and
I was like, I agree, Like I wish that wouldn't

(27:37):
have happened, because it kind of puts a stain on
a night that was was really good. And what hups
not his fault. I mean, the defense pretty literally looked
like Joe Montana tonight, and DeMarcus Robinson and Juwan Jennings
look like Jared Rice to John Taylor. They embarrassed that unit.
Louia Maruno, who I've always liked last year rough year

(27:58):
in Cincinnati, it's kind of happening again and they got shredded.
So what's he supposed to do? I mean, at one
point in time, I look up, it's like they got
twenty points midway through the third quarter. You could not
have asked for more than that. I mean, part of
the reason I took the forty nine ers was because

(28:18):
I was like, I think they're gonna get to like
twenty five twenty six points. It's like, I don't think
Rivers got more than seventeen in them, And then you
look up it's thirty one to twenty midway through the
third quarter. You just can't thirty four to twenty seven. Hey,
from a forty four year old technically off the sideline

(28:40):
and Hoover, Alabama or tuscaloot wherever he's coaching down there,
Fair Hope, Alabama, I think actually Homa Phil Savage former
Cleveland Browns GM. That was really fun the Chargers downfall.
Clearly whole thing's kind of falling apart, which is sad.
You know, you got carl Ursa on the sideline taking notes,
not really sure what she's writing. You know everyone was.

(29:04):
You know, it went pretty viral, like everyone should follow Hurley,
like her taking notes, her not taking None of that
means anything. He either can tackle, he either can score touchdowns,
either can get off the field on third down, or
you can't. It's all on the coach on game day,
like what are we talking about? And I'm not trying
to take shots at her, but it's like the reason
the Colts fell apart is their quarterback position fell apart

(29:28):
until River showed up, and then their defense fell apart.
So this is a team that is just your classic
like complete free fall. But like we've been saying forever,
they do have really good players. Now defensively, I mean
you could argue their best defensive players on the sideline.
And I think this also speaks to they thought they

(29:51):
were really close, and you could make the argument that
at the time they made it. Okay, I understand, But
as any Giants fan knows, and as my producer Shane,
who's a big Giants fan, told me, at the end
of the day, they went all in with Daniel Jones
as their quarterback. Like I know he was having a

(30:12):
good first half of the year, but he has a
long resume, like he's been doing this for a while,
and you trusted that, Like that's what you were trusting, right.
It's one thing it's like, hey, you know Amazon stalks down.
It's like, yeah, feel pretty confident about it. I had
about seven boxes come to my house just today. Like,

(30:34):
if it's down a little bit, I promise you ain't
going away invested in Daniel Jones. Like it's like, Okay,
Patrick Mahons had a bad year, I feel pretty confident'll
bounce back, right, Lamar Jackson rough year, Like I'd feel
pretty confident next year. Okay, totally in Daniel Jones. So
you put all your chips in the middle of the table,
cause listen, guys get hurt. There's nothing you can do
about it. Right, The Packers weren't wrong for investing in

(30:55):
Micah Parsons. That's just an unlucky break. But I think
as we saw that they were truly a player away.
Were the Colts a player away? And I'm not playing
Monday Morning quarterback? You can go back. And I'm not
always right. I say some dumb shit. Some of my
takes are just wrong, right, But at the time I said,

(31:16):
this seems crazy to me. Right, if you are a
player away, it's like you get Miles Garrett, you have
Max Krontt. No, you got a corner who, like you know,
it has been a little hit or miss lately, but
even that who's under a huge contract. But you gave
up two first round picks, Like was that really his value?
You couldn't have gotten for like a one and like

(31:36):
a three? Like that was the player you're going all
in on based on your team, Like you felt good
enough with your team, and Daniel Jones, who it's not
like you'd had for three years, he just got there.
You're going all in on a quarterback. You gave a
one year, fourteen million dollar contract too. It was for
a guy whose career was defined, I would say by

(31:58):
being pretty conservative. Like when the Rams do stuff, they
have it lately because they've been drafting well. But you go, yeah,
they can be kind of gunslingers with the FM picks.
They're not afraid to play that game. Right. But when
Chris Ballard, who historically kind of slow and stead he
wins the race. Now it didn't work, and then all

(32:18):
of a sudden he takes Anthony Richinson. It blows up
in his face, which was a pretty crazy move at
the time, given the Nanthey Richarson and started thirteen games
in college and a lot of them didn't even go
that well, but they were betting on the talent or whatever,
and it blew up in their face. And then they
found the you know, the fill in guy, and it
was going well. But the fill in guy's resume was
not exactly like, well, you know, two time pro bowler,

(32:42):
really good player, just kind of fell on hard times.
That was not the case. Like his best season he
threw I think it was a fifteen or twenty touchdowns
the year they went nine to eight for the Giants.
So it's not like, well, he has two forty touchdown seasons. Now,
he's a likable guy. He's smart, he says the right things,
he looks the part, he's athletic, pretty good arm. But man,
that was risky. And then clearly the worst case scenario happens.

(33:03):
He breaks his leg, tears Achilles Sauce gets injured. You
don't have any choice but to call a forty four
year old guy who then actually plays well, and your
defense just crumbles right in front of your face. Makes
Brock Party, who is a really good player, I mean,
look like Joe Montana. I mean, if Rock Party played
like that most games, I mean he would be the

(33:23):
best player in the league. And you're at home, right,
you're at home, places loud, you score on the first drive,
and then you just get a viscerated. They show the
punter for the forty nine ers, who hasn't even I
think Troy said, hasn't punted so far and part of
it's day had to buy, but has not puntered in December.
It's like, it's one thing when you're playing the Titans,

(33:44):
who up until they played the Chiefs four string quarterback,
you know, was competing to have the number one pick
again in the draft. So it's it's rough if you're
the Colts. Plus then you look and you go, well,
what's it like big picture? Well, the Jacks looking like
a goat to start coach, and the Jags have Trevor
Lawrence now playing like Clemson Trevor Lawrence that made Dabbo

(34:05):
Sweeney a guy worth ten million dollars a year. And
they have a bunch of other good players on the
team because they've been drafting high for years, so they
have a good nucleus of high end players. And they
also have a guy that they made a big trade
for that it's not even playing right now, and they're
competing to be like the one or two seed. So
if Travis Hunter comes back, big picture like, they should

(34:27):
be better, especially if they just pick a position right, Well,
what about the Texans, Well, they just you know, Belichick
missed on a lot of different coaches and executives over
the years. One guy didn't was Nick Casario. Nick Sira
is pretty damn good. Oh yeah, and he finally after
three tries, got it right with Demiko Rants. So they
got a really good GM and coach combo with CJ.

(34:49):
Stroud will like, they got a nucleus of guys. Derek
Stingley like, they're really good. They're not going anywhere, Nico
Collins under contract, they have the Washington Commanders second round pick.
I mean that's I would say it's a pretty big problem. Yeah,
Titans suck. They got problems. As someone let's just say

(35:09):
that might know a thing or two said, it's it's
hard to even describe how big of an idiot their
owner is he's comparing to another owner might give it away.
So I can't even say it because someone in the league.
But the Titans got problems, right, even though they just
had a nice win and cam Ward actually had a
beautiful scramble pass that was pretty sweet actually, but man,

(35:32):
I just think if you're a Colts fan, you go,
what happened? How did this happen. We were just felt
so close, so close, and then we felt like we
skipped a step. It's like, are we the best team
in the league? And then it felt like someone took
dynamite and wrapped it around our entire franchise and blew
it up, and now we're just royally screwed, which which sucks.

(35:53):
So grass the forty nine Ers, who are a couple
wins away now from being the number one seed, which
I again I I let me stayed on the record,
I think is unlikely. And the Colts, who are probably
gonna lose out and be uh they would be an
eight and ninety. What's that record right now? Eight and seven?
So yeah, they're eight and seven. My prediction right now

(36:15):
would be they go eight and nine, which the Jags game,
that's a problem. And at the Texans, especially if the
Texans are playing for something in that game, is going
to be a major issue. Okay, A couple of quick

(36:41):
things before we get out of DK Metcalf. Obviously, the
video where he grabs the dude's hair you know, swings
misses doesn't connect, goes viral last night. Ojo Senko says
the guy called him an n bomb. Which are like, damn,
but no, but it should blast him. The video co's

(37:02):
viral of the fan uh calling him by as he said,
his government name, and no racial slurs there. The guy
lawyers up, you know, defending himself. It's like, okay, there's
a lot going on here. No one knows beside those
two what was actually said. But the moment you saw

(37:22):
that video, my first take was he's going to get
in trouble. And every former player that's on TV is like,
that can't happen. You can't do it. And then today
he gets suspended for two games without pay, and I
think it's Jonathan Jones. The CBS tweeted out that there
was a clause in his contract that he misses any

(37:45):
time for suspension. It voids guarantees and up to forty
million dollars in guarantees. You went, holy shit, that is
one expensive missed punch. Now there were there was a
story that again like his agent clearly was putting stuff

(38:06):
out that he had gone to Seattle last year when
they had gone to Detroit and pointed this fan, I
don't know this some season ticket holder, that's just heckling everybody.
But I googled. Then his contract situation. You know, when
they traded for him, they gave him like one hundred
and thirty million dollars and they guaranteed like sixty plus
million dollars. It was essentially the way it was written,
a two year deal. I think you have to ask yourself,

(38:27):
is DK metcalf on the Pittsburgh Steelers next year? And
he's had some moments this year. He's also been in
an MIA And I thought at the time the trade
was nuts. You're not a wide receiver away. I get
you have some wide receiver needs, but to trade for
this guy who Seattle like, I, how about Seattle's got
a little Billy bean quality to him. If Sam Presty,

(38:51):
if they call you and go, hey, are you interested
in DK for like your second round pick, pick fifty,
I say no, right, say no, yeah, we like, but
we're not interested. Oh yeah, no, we actually are interested.
We'll make him one of the higher paid guys in
the league. It was pretty DUTs, it really was. And
they got very lucky winning that Lions game, which they

(39:11):
deserve to win. And I said last night the play
that was made at the goal line was the overreaction
by people with the Lions about the past interference and
give me a break. He did not score a touchdown
the he is clearly they were pulling up. He had
been pushed back like five or six yards before they
both let go. When he throws it to GoF, game's over.

(39:31):
But if they would have lost, or they were in
a position where Week eighteen against the Ravens would have mattered,
and it still could if they blow it to the uh,
you know, blow the game coming up to Cleveland, which
you never really know. I do think losing the Jenkins
the Ohio State, I think all miss wild be like

(39:51):
he was our guy first. He was, he was the
SEC rookie of the year like three years ago. Absolute monster.
You know, who knows, Maybe if Laane had him last
year as they're running back and he never goes to
Ohio State instead of going nine to three, maybe they're
ten and two or eleven to one and they're in
the playoffs. But I guess we'll never know. And maybe
Lane still the coach of Ole Miss is back to
back playoff coach. Maybe not. I don't know, But I

(40:14):
just think this is the type stuff that the end
of the day, people get injured. Right, we saw it tonight,
Daniel Jones, Fred Warner. I'm not comparing those two players,
but I'm just saying neither are available. Nick. But nothing
you can do. You pay a guy a lot of money,
is what it is. Guys break legs, tar Achilles, right,
tarr Acls. It sucks, but it's part of the business.

(40:36):
There's another thing when stuff like that happens and you
fuck everyone on your team, and we'll see. I think
this amps up the pressure. And again Lamar Jackson is injured.
Hardboss says he has like a bad back contusion day
to day. The problem is for them, they're playing the
Packers and they gotta win. If you assume that the

(40:58):
Steelers are gonna win, you know, against the Browns, but
or they don't have a choice. I mean, they just
have to win to kind of hold serve for the
game week eighteen to matter. This is a situation. Then
my first reaction goes, I could see dk now on
the team next year. I really could. And this is
one of those situations. It'll be interesting what Tomlin says
on Wednesday. But you know, put this team whose battle

(41:20):
back is really playing well, right, they put themselves in
a position to be like an eleven win team and honestly,
for the first time in years, have a little positive
momentum going into the playoffs. The last couple of years,
we were all out on them, right, especially last year
the way they lost the Bengals at the end of
the season, like they don't have a snowballs chance in

(41:41):
hell against the Ravens in the first round, and they didn't.
They lose by fourteen points, just like the previous year
against the Bills, lose by double digits, and this year like, okay,
and I'm even coming around, so I could see them
beating the Chargers, I could see them competing in the
first round. Like I don't think it's I thought it
was inconceivable the last couple of years of them winning

(42:03):
a first round game. I don't think that this year.
But this situation with DK, it's like, man, there's just
there's just always something with this team. It's not I'm
not putting this on on Tomlin necessarily, but like you
got rid of George Pickens because he was driving you nuts,

(42:23):
which listen, only a coach for an office, a coordinator,
Like they know their players so much better than US fans,
even US people that like text with people on the
team like finding out like you're living with him every day.
He was clearly driving them nuts. George needed a fresh
start and it worked out best for both parties. But

(42:46):
then to turn around and get straight into business with
DK was pretty risky, right. He had been kind of
a roller coaster the last couple of years for Seattle
and John Schneider. Is punted on a couple of roller
coasters and worked out pretty well. Russell. I'm not comparing
Russell Wilson's the DKA of being a roller coaster, but
just it was a lot for them, right, the ego,

(43:07):
the all about Russ. Clearly behind the scenes it was like,
we want out of this business. And John Schnyder said
that about DK. We want out of this business. Coward
talked about this last night, like, Yeah, I talked to
people around the rams. They're like, Pooka better get a
shit together. We don't want to be fucking talking about
streamers and a bunch of bullshit, right, just like, don't

(43:28):
be a problem now. The problem with Puoka is he's
so productive that it's like we don't really have a choice.
He's kind of got us by the balls. If he
wants to be a paint. Antonio Brown was like that
for a long time with the Steelers. He's like, hey, homie,
I'm catching one hundred and twenty balls and eighteen hundred
yards and seventeen touchdowns a year. What are you gonna

(43:50):
do to me? And for the most part, their answer
is gonna be nothing, right. But DK's not good enough
to do that right, And that's why seat I was like,
we're out. We don't even we don't even have like
we got JSN who's on the team, but like we
don't really have like a fill in to be a
dominant outside guy. So they signed Cooper Cup and they've
kind of piece mailed it together. Let's face it, they

(44:12):
feel like a wide receiver away. But they're like, we're
not giving that guy a third contract because again, we
talk a lot about the people, and it is a
people business. It's also a business where you invest a
lot in the individuals. Right. The forty nine Ers have
pay George Kittle a lot of money and guess what,
they have never regretted a penny they've sent his way.
They've never regretted a penny they've sent Trent Williams or

(44:33):
Fred Warner or brock perty this year. You invest in people,
you know, Listen, TJ. Watt, you would say at points
over the last couple of years, like to be a
little more productive. But the Steelers never regret paying him.
They've never repeted, regretted a penny they've given Cam Heyward right,
They've never regretted a penny that they've given Friarmouth. So

(44:55):
it's like, you want to invest in people that you
can trust, that you can go to war with. Reliable
That's what this business is. And you know, DK's kind
of proven like he's not always the most reliable guy.
And now we'll see. I mean if that, who knows
if somehow they screw up and listen, weird things happen

(45:18):
in the NFL. Weird things do. I wouldn't just this
definitely isn't gonna be one of my locks of the
week Cleveland against the Steelers, but very very expensive suspension.
And last but not least, Bill Belichick hired Bobby Petrino

(45:38):
as his offensive coordinator. That might be the funniest shit
to ever happen. I mean, I can't forever think about
like the last ten years of Belichick's career. He would
only hire guys that started as like interns that started
at the lowest end of the totem poll form. I mean,
by the end once Josh McDaniels left, it was like

(46:01):
Matt Patrician Joe Judge running his offense. It's like, Matt
patricia is a defensive coordinator, what do you do? But
he didn't trust anybody. Then he goes to college and
let's face it, he doesn't really know anybody. Like Urban
Myers retired Chip Kelly, that was his buddy. But you know,
maybe they weren't gonna pay him enough. You know, Chip's

(46:22):
getting paid twelve million dollars to not work. Does he
want to get involved with something that's not gonna look
very good? I mean, on a serious note, if North
Carolina football was a stock, I think everyone with a
brain would short the living hell out of it. This
thing feels as likely to work as like the Jets

(46:45):
in their quarterback situation year in year out. You're like,
that ain't gonna work, No chick, Nope. Right. We all
know those couples that are like, this thing is destined
to blow up. And that's what this thing feels like.
I mean, Belichick with his twenty five year old girlfriend.
You got put Trino, who had one of the most
historic pictures in the history of the internet when he

(47:05):
fell off that motorcycle sleeping with the strength coach's wife,
who was also the volleyball coach. And you put these
two guys together, and listen, Belichick's kind of depended on him, right.
We talk about leverage, and people have over you, right,
like Bobby Belichick needs Bobby Patrino. Belichick can't coach the offense.

(47:26):
Belichick's clearly not great at evaluating the quarterback. Belichick's not
picking great wide receivers. I mean, look at the little
quarterback they signed this year from South Alabama's terrible. And
my guy Jackson told me right before we hopped on
I guess they announced the last couple days he's returning.
So I just think that this situation, it's more likely

(47:48):
that there is some crazy article in the athletic when
people are fired at the end of the year, then
all of a sudden, they're competing for the a SEC
championship at the end of October. Now, the memes today
of the motorcycles and Belichick riding in the little side seat,
I can't tell you how many people in the NFL
forwarded me those pictures. The likelihood that I would have

(48:10):
told somebody five years ago that Bill Belichick is going
to be coaching in college at I mean, a cool school,
but not a football school, and Bobby Petrino is going
to be his offensive coordinator. There wouldn't have been a
soul in this planet who would have believed you. But
that's where we're at. And this gets back to the
Pete Carroll thing. I get loving to work. I've always

(48:36):
hated the word retirement. It kind of gives me the
hebgbis and I love sitting around watching games, but like
I like doing stuff. I like having some purpose in
my life. So I get these guys who feel like
they've mastered their profession and want to keep working. But
I also can't imagine being in my mid seventies accomplished
what they've accomplished financially right and being just so dead

(48:59):
set on refuse seem to kind of wave the white flag. Hell,
I could be a consultant. I could still be around.
You could do TV. Pete could have done any Fox
studio TV wanted. Belichick had a media career, but they
just refused to not want to coach, and both of
them are great examples of like listen, this is gonna

(49:19):
be a tiny, tiny little footnote on their career resumes.
But it's pretty embarrassing. I mean it really is. Pete
against the Texans wasn't especially someone that had the Texas.
Mine is fourteen and a half. But the aggregate of
a season and what is happening at North Carolina with
Bobby Petrino that you hired Bobby Petrino? I mean, what

(49:42):
what are we? How did that happen? Even last year?
It's like he just kept Freddy Kitchens. The crazy part
about Belichick it feels like he doesn't for this guy
that's like this coaching guru, like loves the coaching profession.
Does he not have that many friends? Like seriously, like
for guy that because coach, it's nineteen seventy five, it

(50:05):
doesn't feel like he's got this crazy rolodex. You know,
Nick Saban coached with Bill in the early nineties, and
once once Nick got to college, right, he clearly created
like musshamp and Kirby Smart, but then like as offensive
coordinators left and he lost coaches. I don't know if
it was Jimmy sexon helping him out. Whether he's a

(50:26):
great like scout evaluator of like scouring the internet. I
don't know what he's doing, but he was always just
sark Lane Mario Tosh. I mean, he's just fucking finding
guys all over the place, had like quality control guys
like Dan Lanning. It's like what Belichick's like a Bobby Petrino.
It's like, what how what I'm just I'm seriously it's

(50:54):
it's so funny, but at the same time it's extremely sad.
It really is. And I think both those guys are
great examples of like there comes a time in all
of our professional lives, and I'm sure it will happen
to me one day. It'll happen to you two whatever
industry you're working, even if you are one of, if
not the most successful guy in your field, where it's

(51:16):
just like it's time and they say, and I've been
a king of this at parties my entire life. I've
never been a late night guy, not a drug guy,
like I'm king of the Irish Goodbye, You'll look around
and I will just be gone. I will never ever
be the last guy at the party. Hell, I'm never
the last like fifty percent of the guys of the party.

(51:37):
I'm out. And you know Bill Walsh made a career
of this as an executive and then Belichick copied him.
Get rid of a guy a year too early instead
of a year too late. Yet he's treating his career
completely different. He stayed like four years too late. Like, Bill,
what are you doing this for? To try to show

(51:59):
off to Jordan Hudson. Now you bring Bobby Petrino in
your office? Who you canna hire next? Sharon? More Like?
Is Hudson safe? You better keep type tabs on her
because Bobby's gonna be all over Jordan at John Middlecoff.

(52:29):
At John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those dms?
Get your questions answered here on the show again Instagram
dms wide open. It's just my name. Two f's. Congrats
on the upcoming child. We're the same age. But I
started having kids at twenty two and I have six.
My man's like Philip Rivers, they change you for the better. Well,

(52:51):
trust me, I need some positive changing in my life always,
so I'm not looking forward to the no sleep but
or getting pissed on, but I definitely am get excited
for changing to becoming a better human being. It seems
like a foregone conclusion. The Dolphins are gonna fire Mike McDaniel.
Will he not be the hottest offensive coordinator going into

(53:13):
the next season. If I'm the Lions, I'm calling him
within minutes of walking out of Stephen Rossis's office and
offering him a job to replace the hole that Ben
Johnson left. I think he'd be awesome with the Lions.
I don't know. I could be wrong on this. He
was just asked about this after the Bengal game. All reports,
you know Albert Breer I saw talking about this or

(53:35):
that he's going to return. I don't know if it
was the winning streak. Before the Steeler game, Breer had
mentioned I was watching a YouTube video of his that
one thing people close to Stephen ross when he was
doing like the audit of his organization after he shit
canned the GM who was pretty terrible. I think I

(53:55):
guess a lot of people around Mike where you better
be very careful because this is the type that gets
his second opportunity and is really good. Right. I think
a lot of people are looking at I'm recording this
probably an hour before the Monday night game, but like
Robert sala as a guy who is gonna be way
better a second time around, And I'd probably agree with that.

(54:16):
But I think Mike, you know, we've talked about this before.
It's crazy the amount of hate he got. And listen,
I guess I was guilty of I guess questioning. I mean,
people showing up to your meetings late is kind of
an indictment of guys and how they respect you, even
if you're kind of a turd. You know, most guys,

(54:39):
it's one thing. Listen, everyone's been late, but last year
was a problem. He even talked about the end of
the season, like, guys weren't showing up on time. I
don't know the fine system, what can do. You could
also argue these guys are so rich now who even cares?
But I just think that I guess I'm operating under
the idea that Mike McDaniel is going to be the
coach for the for the Miami Dolphins next year. Obviously
they're gonna hire a GM. Maybe it's one of those

(55:01):
things where the guy gets like a year to evaluate him.
It almost slows down your clock because it doesn't put
pressure on you. He's not your hire. So if it
does work, you just keep rolling. If it doesn't, you
can make your own higher. So that's what I don't
expect him to get fired as a Bills fan. This
from Amy. As a Bills fan, it bothers me that

(55:25):
this narrative Josh going in the playoffs, Mahomes, Burrow, and
Lamar aren't in it. It's now or never. I would agree.
All four teams have been at the worst this season.
Each one is dealing with their own issues. But Josh
is the only quarterback out of the big four to
have pulled his team to the playoffs, while the other
three have not. While is the flip side of the

(55:46):
narrative not being discussed. This is the worst roster of
the Bills have had since their run, but Josh is
willing his team to the dance. Make it make sense.
It will not matter if you win games in the playoffs,
the narratives about these guys being around, these guys not
being around. If he gets the Bills to the super Bowl,

(56:07):
it would be a crowning achievement for Josh in his
run with the Bills. If he were to win the
super Bowl, it would validate his career. Let let's be real.
I mean, Aaron Rodgers one of the greatest players of
all time. He's been to one Super Bowl, right, he
won it, which is really important. But it's not like
Aaron's like, you know, I only won one, but I
went to four other ones. You know, you can be

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an absolute legend and just win the one, right, and
it doesn't matter who you went through. He's already like
they lost the games of the Chiefs for the last
five years or whatever, but he's played well in those games.
So I think the pressure want to see how the
seeding kind of plays out. I mean, by all accounts,
you just look at the schedule, the pay I almost

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said the Pats, the Patriots. The Pats, you know they're
probably gonna win the last two games, right. They get
the Jets, who are just horrendous, and then the Dolphins,
who are just who I think are gonna quiet quiet
tanking what do they call it quiet quitting? Are quietly tanking,
and even if they did try, they are not good

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in the cold in New England in early January, it
is not a warm place. So I would imagine the
Patriots win the division, you guys, depending on what happens
to the Chargers this week they played at Texas. That's
a really good game. You guys could be the five seed,
draw the Steelers, then all of a sudden, depending on
what happens, you know, the Charger of the Texans could
easily win a game, so you might not even have

(57:33):
to play the Broncos. Right, so your your path could
be the Steelers potentially who the Steelers the Jacks right
to get it? I mean, that's that's a realistic path
to the AFC Championship game, and then play who's ever
sitting there? The Texans, the Chargers, the Broncos, the Pates.

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I might start cralling on the Pates. Love the pot
I like this guy already as a Packer fan. I
respect the fact that I've been blessed with amazing quarterbacks
in my life. As you talked about Mac Jones playing
into a starter in the coming years, do you think
teams should consider going after Malik Willis as he's balled
out in his time playing for US. I was actually

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thinking about this when I screenshoted you your post not
post DM is Justin Fields. I'd have to look at
the numbers. Obviously, Justin's got a ton of time to play,
but I've watched Malik Willis now definitely in that game alone.
Like I would rather have Malik Willis than Justin Fields.
And this is where like we discriminate guys that aren't

(58:40):
top picks. Like Justin Fields got forty million dollars this offseason.
He got benched immediately, right, he was atrocious. Not listen,
I'm not putting all the blame on him. The Jets
are a joke, but he was a bad player on
other teams. Like he's just a run around guy, can't
pass right, He's got a big arm, but he, like
Malik will in that game pocket throws. To me, just

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like if you said, John, you have to have one
of these two guys as your starter next year, Malik
Willis or Justin Fields. I wouldn't even hesitate for Malik
Willis so clearly in the infrastructure of the of the
Packers last couple of years, he's dramatically improved. And obviously,
like Justin Fields, he brings the physical running element too.

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But the deep ball that he threw for the touchdown,
some of those drive throws over the middle of the field,
even a couple of touch passes one thousand percent, you know,
if I would one hundred, if you can get Malik Willis,
can you get it for like one year, ten million
dollars or something? I would wouldn't even hesitate to do that.

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That was really really impressive on Saturday night to come
in out of the bullpen where you get no practice reps.
The game plan is to Love whose skill set is
just a little different. I mean Love is to me
much more of a true pocket quarterback, where Malik Willis
is much more of a hybrid. He's like constantly what
they were hoping justin fields would be so. But this

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gets back to when you're drafted really high, you just
get more shots fair not You just do and people
are willing to give you money. They are like, wait,
they give who money? They give him? How much happens
all the time? John question for the chat, why are
the Jags the Rodney Dangerfield of the NFL. I know

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it's a small market, but also Buffalo and New Orleans.
But never hear Andy Reid the week he plays the
Bill say they're in a small market, but a good team.
Reid would never disrespect the Bills. And yes, the Jags
play second or third fiddle in their own state. But
guess what that happens elsewhere too. In popularity contests, the

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Georgia Bulldogs top the Atlanta Falcons, and Ohio State tops
the popularity of the Bengals in the Browns time, we
stop holding the Jags different standards. Well, here's the thing, man,
we don't talk that much about the Atlanta Falcons. I mean,
we talk about the Browns because they're always polarizing and controversial,
not because they're good at football, like the Bengals are

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driven by one of the best quarterbacks in the league,
or else we wouldn't be talking about them. So the
market size and using like the Chiefs are small market,
well yeah, they've been now a dominant team for almost
fifteen years, and since Mahomes they've been the best team
in the league. So if the Jags were a dominant team,
even in a small market, we would talk about them
a lot. But for most of my life they have sucked.

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And for the last like ten to fifteen years, besides
the one year with Moron and Bortles, they have not
been good, and they have drafted constantly, really really high.
So I think when people disrespect them, and I get it.
I mean, I've made some comments about the non power
forward that gets people up in arms. There's a chip

(01:01:56):
on your shoulder when you are the little guy. They're
just this. Now, football is a little different because even
if you're quote unquote the little guy, your own are
still a billionaire. You still have a huge payroll. So
it's not like Apple's nap. It's not like the difference
of the Yankees and the Tampa Bay Race. But the
Jags will never get treated like the Tampa Bay Race.
Just not possible. Now. They could get treated much better

(01:02:20):
with performances like that against Denver if they come into
the playoffs playing well. They do have a famous quarterback
that we have talked about since college. But it takes
like the Bills. I mean, when I was a kid,
they went to four straight Super Bowls. They had like
five Hall of Famers on that team, and over the
course of the last what seven eight years, they've had

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one of the best players in the NFL. They have
the reigning MVP. When I put the Bills on television,
if I'm the league, which impacts who I talk about
in the big games, it does thirty forty million people
this week. They've built the television product around Eagles versus Bills. Why,
because that's treated like a heavyweight matchup. You guys just

(01:03:03):
haven't got that treatment because you've been so crappy. So
I think Sean Payton, who came from New Orleans, like
we don't talk about the Saints, Tyler Shuck is pretty
impressive right now making some plays like they've been pretty
good for like the last month. If the season started
right now and you just played seventeen games, you might

(01:03:24):
bet on them to win that division, right, So I
think part of it. But the reason we used to
talk about the Saints sports they had Drew Brees, one
of the greatest players at his position and a polarizing, big,
you know, personality coach. Those guys left and we stopped
talking about them. Now it doesn't matter who coaches the
Cowboys or the Packers, or the Steelers or the Niners.

(01:03:47):
Like their brands are so big nationally, they get treated differently.
I say this all the time, this is a numbers game,
Like I'm pretty numb to this all. You know. It's like,
I got no problem. I don't watch that much Jags
football because I haven't had to, you know, Like I'm
not breaking down every play of the Jets. You almost treat,

(01:04:09):
you know, teams that don't win, especially as the season
goes on a little bit like you would a baseball
team during the baseball season. If you're doing local radio,
you're not breaking down every inning of every game like
you do in football. That's not the way you cover
the sport unless you're in like New York. So I

(01:04:29):
think the Jags can build on this. If they can
become a consistent contender, they can get talked about more.
But also the two Southern divisions, I would say are
the two least important divisions of the discourse and consistently
the television product. It broke through a little bit when
you know Peyton Manning with the Colts that changed the game.

(01:04:50):
But use the Houston Texans for as a good example.
When they were good under Kubiak and Bill O'Brien and
making wild card game, they were usually put on in
the wild card round the worst spot, which is Saturday afternoon,
which Bill Simmons calls the shaky game. That's where they went, right,

(01:05:12):
who usually went at night? It was like you know
Niners Packers, right, I mean, it was the Eagles versus
the Cowboy whatever. It's big brands, so brands matter, Like
this is all a business. This isn't There's no emotion involved,
and I think people get very emotional. Now, did Sean Payton,
Like Sean Payton's kind of a shit talker, it's who

(01:05:35):
he is. But like what he said was factually not incorrect.
The Denver Broncos, whether Sean Payton and Liam Cohen exist
or not, are way more important to the NFL than
the Jacks. I mean, it's just a fact, and he's
worked in a small market. The Denver Broncos are way
more important in the league in terms of over the
course of the last thirty plus years with the television

(01:05:57):
explosion than the Saints. Not everything is like a shot.
Some of the things are just reality. Part of my
take has more listeners than me. I mean, it was like,
what am I supposed to do? Well, It's like, I'm
just a It's just a fact. It's okay. You always

(01:06:19):
keep bringing up the Rams DBS as the weak link
of the team, and while I agree it's the worst
part of the defense, it's not the weak part of
the team. Everyone keeps saying the Seahawks defense because that
is the special teams. I think you know Sean almost
said Sean Payton. Sean McVay last week fired Chase Blackburn,
who used to play for the Giants when I worked
for the Eagles. I think he won a couple of

(01:06:39):
Super Bowls, has become a special teams coach fired him
last year or last week, and I saw, like rap
sheet or chefter's the first time he's ever fired a
coach in season. That's pretty crazy. I guess you coach
long enough, it's almost inevitable. Uh So, Basically the fact
is that most teams right now don't have dbs they

(01:07:01):
can put up with the receivers these days, except maybe
the Broncos and the Texans. We lost four games the
season Eagles, Niners, and Seahawks were all because of miss
field goals and a punt return. It wasn't because our
DBS got burned in those games. One game you can
say the dbs gave up crucial catches was the Panther game,
and even that game we could have won if Stafford
didn't have three turnovers. Your thoughts, I've said forever, you'd

(01:07:26):
have to look at in the modern era of the
salary cap, there aren't many teams with like three or
four sweet dbs. It's not usually the way it works.
I'm trying to think. I mean, Richard Sherman would argue
they had the best secondary throughout his career, especially in
their heyday. You know, I think their second corner was like, Okay,

(01:07:48):
it's not like they had multiple Richard Sherman's. They had
awesome safeties in Earl Thomas and Cam Chancellor and you know,
great linebacker play kJ Wright and Bobby Wagner that could cover.
So that helped. But like I think Denver with Peyton
Manning secondary, I mean, they had three really good corners
keep to Leeb, Chris Harris Junior and Bradley Roby, so

(01:08:11):
I would say that was more of a coverage, better
cover unit. But most teams, I'm with you aren't gonna
have like Durell Reeves on one side and Dean Sanders
on the other. You can get by with average dB play,
but your d line has to dominate and your offense
has to dominate. And special teams like they have always
been a bugaboo of Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan. Those guys, listen,

(01:08:39):
I totally understand not taking kickers in punters seriously, if
you're those guys, I get it, like these guys, but
you're the head coach and you need these guys in
those units. Like I've never been to a RAMS practice,
but like there's a reason Kyle's dicking around talking to
the quarterbacks or doing something else when the special teams
going on. Maybe that's changed a little bit this year,

(01:09:00):
but historically, like he doesn't care, and I think it's
fair to say Sean's kind of the same way, Like
the offense is their baby. Physicality on defense talking with
the defensive coordinator because they view that as football. Then
they get super pissed when I mean that punt returned
by Shaheed. I remember talking about this the next day,
or maybe we talked about it two days later when

(01:09:22):
we were recording. Before we hit record, It's like I
was like thinking about that play. Did he even get touched?
Was he even running full speed? I need to go
back and watch that play. Was there even a defender
within like five feet of them at all? Because you
could argue that a punt return touchdown is the most
electric play in football because typically it has like a

(01:09:43):
broken tackle where a guy's running full speed, or like
an incredible juke move. I feel like he just ran
straight in and no one even touched him, So it's
just an embarrassment. But they would never allow that on
their unit. It would never be tolerated ever. But I
think it's like all special teams, which I kind of understand,

(01:10:07):
but it's like, you're the head coach. How can a
team tank but not be super obvious? Raiders fan here,
we need to lose the Chiefs and the Giants. Being

(01:10:29):
around the NFL, we can lose those without flat out
giving up. Pete probably wants to show up so we
can win, while the rest of us don't want to
win well at this point in time. It Listen, if
it was a month ago and you're two and eight, like,
keep playing hard, but you got two games left, you
got two wins. I'd be a little nervous because I

(01:10:50):
had a buddy on the Texans shoot me a video
of a Max Crosby play where he rammed down the
running back. They played really hard yesterday, Ashra Genty. I
think Will Anderson gave him a compliment like they look good.
If they play like they played against the Texans against

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the Giants, they easily can win. They if they play
that same game they played against Texans. They will beat
not just the Giant, they'll be the Chiefs too. And
here's what I would be scared of, because there's no
way you can really do it. If you truly want
to tank, you fire Pete Carroll right now, and you
just have like the some interim guy and you just

(01:11:33):
let it be a complete shit show. But if Pete
Carroll's there, which I would imagine is going to coach
the last two games, they're gonna win one of these
last two games. Because if I'm Andy Reid and now
all my quarterbacks are injured, minshew, I guess avoided the
ACL but he's still out for the year, which is
two games. I'm losing to you on purpose. I'm literally
gonna try to screw you because is Fernando Mendoza gonna

(01:11:57):
be great or not? No one knows. Mis's the draft,
just never know. But I'm not giving you the opportunity
to get the guy. And if you end up getting
the guy because someone else you know, trades with you,
so be it. You have to get rid of your
But I'm not just giving you the number one overall pick.
So I think easily you could beat the Giants if
you play as hard as you just did against Texas,
you'll win that game. And two, I just think the

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Chiefs are gonna let you beat them. Hey, they might
not even have to try. I mean they're rolling out
practice squad quarterbacks. It's not like they were scoring that
many points when they had Mahomes in there. So and
if Andy, should you know on purpose let you win
because it screws you and you're in his division. Question

(01:12:42):
for the back. An interesting hypothetical came up. Say the
Packers are up five with three seconds left in the game.
They kicked the ball off and the Bear Bears returner
breaks away and is about to score a touchdown, but
a fan jumps out of the stand and makes the tackle.
Where's this hypothetical coming up? What where's this happening? What

(01:13:07):
would happen time expired and the returner never crossed the
goal line? Rekick untimed down? Curious your thoughts. My first
thought slash reaction would be there unless the fan is
like a former NFL dB. They are not touching the
return man. If the return man is an open space

(01:13:28):
and the guy comes out of the stands, I do
not think he touches a finger on the guy unless
the guy is completely gassed, if he has any juice
left in the tank, which you know, the guy is
gonna be like a dB or wide receiver, so he's
not gonna be he's gonna be in great shape. I
would highly bet against if you allowed just no defenders, right,

(01:13:52):
let's just kick it off to return Rex. You know,
I don't even know trying to think, do you Samuel right,
some guy like that and you just let him run
and you have a random fan. Let's just pick a
guy like twenty seven years old, a dude, maybe a
high school football player, right, just working in finance. Pull
him out and just start him at the goal line

(01:14:13):
and say, when Deebos gets to like the thirty yard line,
you can start running at him. I would bet my
bottom dollar that you could not touch one finger on
his body. I'd be pretty confident on that. If he
did accomplish tackling him, I have no clue what the
rule would be. You probably would have to give him

(01:14:36):
the touchdown. That guy would get the shit kicked out
of him. I saw the video of where James Harrison
slammed the fan back in the day, so awesome. Grew
up watching l way See to mile high, longtime Bronco fan.
Since free agency nineteen ninety two, only the Broncos and
the Ravens of won Super Bowls with objectively poor quarterback play.

(01:14:58):
The fifteen Broncos average low eighties for the season between
Manning and Osweiler, an all time football team. Why are
folks so tuned in on how Nicks plays when it's
clear the Broncos have a unique winning formula where the
quarterback well critical to success, is not the only variable
to success. Protect the football and our defense and in

(01:15:19):
tangibles makes us favors. This was yesterday morning, so before
you got your ass kicked, now listen you can. We're
never gonna see the two thousand Ravens, the even the
year Broncos team, the in the twenty fourteen, fifteen sixteen range,

(01:15:41):
the Lob teams, any of the teams in the eighties.
Like those days playing defense are over, so you're gonna
have your days. We just get smoked. I did watch
yesterday thinking like this is a little too easy. You know.
Now you're definitely gonna look better against the Chiefs, and
whatever the kid's name is, you're gonna kill him, probably,
But I you do need bo knicks to play well

(01:16:03):
because the rules and the officials, the way that the
game is called, you know, I mean, you can really
protect the quarterback. It is a very quarterback friendly sport now,
and you can just play a guy if your d
lion's not getting home. And I think they sacked Trevor
Lawrence what three times yesterday, but he was getting rid
of the ball. Guys were open in the end zone.

(01:16:25):
Most of these good teams now, even like the Chargers
Me and Colin were talking about yesterday. Trey Harris, what's
he a four star from Ole Miss that they paid
a bunch of money to in the transfer portal. Quentin
Johnson TCU, he was on the team that went to
the National championship. He was a first round pick. Keenan Allen,
you know, is one of the great players of his

(01:16:46):
generation or one of the most consistent players of his generation.
Hampton's a first round running back, like Lad mcconkey's a
high second round slot receiver. I mean, they got dudes right.
So most of these teams you're gonna play in big
games have a bunch of wide receivers. So I do
think that your quarterback play does matter. You guys look

(01:17:10):
a lot better when he's throwing four touchdowns. He threw
a beautiful touchdown pass on the first I think you
guys were down seven to nothing and it was I
think it tied the game or early seven to seven,
kind of off his back foot sudden in the back
corner of the right part of the end zone. I mean,
it was gorgeous. It was one of the nicer passes
of the day any quarterback now bar is pretty low yesterday,

(01:17:32):
but the drake may pass to Kyle Williams that passed
a sudden. Trevor threw a couple beautiful passes in the
red zone. He threw one back shoulder pass. I saw
the highlights to day at the gym. I was like,
that was nice. I mean, Trevor Lawrence, here's the thing
in the playoffs. If you're playing another quarterback that's playing
really well, and Trevor Lawrence, if he's playing like this

(01:17:54):
in the playoffs, they're gonna be a major problem. Justin
Herbert is playing really really well, right, Josh Allen, his
resume speaks for herself. CJ. Stroud wasn't good yesterday, but
he's had really good games. Number two overall pick. Drake
may number three overall pick. There's just a lot of talent.

(01:18:14):
You know, Aaron Rodgers is in a one game scenario.
Who knows. So the AFC's down a little bit this year,
but the quarterback play can still be really, really good.
What are your thoughts on the Jake Paul fight? Do
you think influencer boxers can bring back boxing to a
more mainstream sport and edge out stuff like soccer and hockey? Lastly,

(01:18:37):
who are you fighting? If you get three hundred thousand
dollars to show in one mil to win? Love everything
you do. Congrats on the Netflix deal. I saw so
much negativity, including my three and out text chain. Everyone
it feels like, hates what this stands for, which is

(01:18:58):
like a mockery of it all. I feel like everyone
online despised it all personally. That is the type entertainment
that is right up my alley. I live for this stuff,
and honestly, this was much more. I felt like serious
kind of You could argue that Joshua could have knocked

(01:19:19):
him out earlier. The Tyson thing is like, that's just
that is true, my true, Like I love this shit.
It's just it's just so dirty, so corrupt, but also
like it's kind of business in America. I don't know
if this is true or not, but I googled it.
I looked at multiple articles. They're saying the payout for

(01:19:40):
these guys is give or take ninety plus million dollars each.
So you know, did Jake Paul have any business fighting
that guy? He has as much business fighting that guy
as I do, like playing Tiger Woods in his prime
one on one in golf. Of course he's gonna get
his as kicked. That looked like Miles Garrett fighting a
slot receiver, and Jake's pretty big. But I commend him

(01:20:03):
for two things. One incredible businessman speaks for itself. He
just did something on Netflix which I would guess got
millions upon millions of people to watch live, and got
a payout. He's already super rich because he's been doing
these But for the other guy, when they said on
the broadcast that this was gonna be the second or

(01:20:25):
third biggest payout of Joshua's career, you're telling me Joshua's
had a payout bigger ninety million dollars. I don't pretend
to be a boxing guy, but i'd be shocked if
that's true, If he actually is going to get ninety
million dollars for the Netflix deal, that's gonna be easily
the biggest payout he's ever I mean, Floyd Mayweather, who's
by far the richest fighter, used to do like one
hundred plus million dollar payouts and that was pay per view.

(01:20:47):
So the business Jake Paul has built. And here's the
other thing, Like you asked me, what would you need
to get in the rank three hunder grant? Well, I
mean three hundred grand. Again, I'm not turning down three
hundred thousand dollars, but I'm also not just getting in
the ring for three hundred thousand dollars to get my
fucking Josh shattered. I would not take three hundred thousand
dollars to get my Josh shatter. I would say no,

(01:21:08):
it's just not enough money. To me, it's not changing
my life. Like to me, Josh shattering would have to
be in the millions. So it takes some balls. Like
I see so many people talk shit, they wouldn't have
the balls to like do anything in their life. Jake
Paul one has created this business for nothing, I mean

(01:21:30):
from him and his brother at least you know, back
in the early days of YouTube, right became big and
he's created this. It takes fucking some stones to get
in that ring and fight that guy. I even saw
Shady McCoy, who is a big fight guy, was like,
I can't believe he's actually at the start of the fight,
like getting in the ring and going through with this
and listen. I didn't know that much about Joshua beside

(01:21:52):
obviously he's talented fighter, big hitter. When he got in there,
I was like, this guy is huge. I mean, he
looked like you look like mister Olympia going up against
Schwarzenegger back in the day. And it's like, well, he
kind of threw the fight. He could have knocked him out.
I don't care. You want to fight to end in
ten seconds? That sucks. So I just feel there's so

(01:22:15):
much negativity when people do stuff that no one else
could do, but everyone's like, dam we got ninety million dollars.
That's crazy. It's crazy. Isn't that crazy? He just generating
what let's just take a guess, twenty million people watching live.
Sure as hell it looks sold out to me. I
actually have a lot of respect for the guy, uh

(01:22:36):
for doing this and building the business behind it, and
everyone and their mother's talking shit. You know, well, this
guy's getting in the ring, getting his fucking job broken,
getting ninety million dollars. So I thoroughly enjoyed it. You
know again, I like that type stuff. I remember being
in college, like Floyd's fighting De la Joya, Floyd's fighting Pacio,

(01:22:58):
and he's fights sucked. I would much rather like come
to this and be like, Okay, this is sweet box.
He is also like the most corrupt sport by mile
in the history of this country, not even close. I mean,
basketball is in the rearview mirror. It's it's by itself,
so yes, shady business. You couldn't do this in other sports, right,
So it's it's ripe for this type thing, and he's

(01:23:20):
taking advantage of it. He's made that do ninety million dollars.
He didn't even break a sweat. It looked like Jake
Paul probably two minutes in. You could tell listen, I
don't pretend to be some fight grou here, but he
was just dancing around soaked in sweat. Looked like he
had just come out of the sauna. It's like, listen,

(01:23:40):
I'm sure he trained pretty hard. There's no way he
can maintain this Floyd Mayweather dancing around for eight rounds
and just avoiding hits. He's in made. He's gonna get gassed.
That's why he kept hitting the ground. He was exhausted
the other guy. I'm not the biggest tennis guy either,
but listen, I used to watch Federer, you know, play
Djokovic or Nadal. Federer didn't sweat like as someone that

(01:24:01):
sweats a lot. I was always just house fedter or
not sweating, I swear to god. Whenever they would kind
of zoom in on, Joshua was like, I don't think
he's breaking a sweat. Jake Paul was soaked a minute
into the fight. I'm like this thing because I think
he realized, like, I gotta be pretty careful here, and
he took that shot and that jaw got shuttered. I'd

(01:24:25):
like to see how many people that were tweeting and
just think it's a complete clown show would hop in
a ring together. Josh Atter like, I'd do it for
ninety million. You would. Let's see you put some gloves
on hopping the ring with that guy. I mean, I
guess I would get in the ring for ninety two
million dollars, but it'd be might I might have a
heart attack, you know, dancing around before he even hit me.

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I recently saw a clip of Colin saying, if the
Giants end up with the first overall pick, they should
trade Dart and take Mendoza. Do you think it would
be the right move to roll the dice on another
rookie when you have a guy who showed some real
upside his first year. Also, what type of compensation could
you get for Dart? Would the Rams trade the first

(01:25:20):
for him? Given it would probably be at the end
of the first round. As a Giants fan, I'd rather
see them trade the first overall pick for a larger hole.
I would be pretty stunned, especially because the GM is
staying right and I think the gap. Mendoza is a
really good player, and he's had a great season, but
I don't think he's viewed as like, hey, this is

(01:25:42):
the next Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck and Dart, you know,
before the organization. And this is what I said when
he asked me last night. I do think it's really
really hard to judge the Giant situation. They're firing coaches
left and right places just a disaster. It's kind of
become for like a high brow, like upper class kind

(01:26:06):
of feel they've always had. The Giants like they've always
kind of felt like the country club, and the Jets
have felt like the Muni in golf terms, right, you know,
the Giants have always felt like a Mercedes, and the
Jets felt kind of more like a beater, a little
rough around the edges, you know, you know, a lot
of dents in the car, and the Giants kind of

(01:26:26):
lost their way. Man, I would I would not do
that now. I also don't get that caught up in
like two weeks ago Jackson, Like, I can't even judge
what's going on, So I would have no problem rolling
the dice. Here's the other thing. If you trade with

(01:26:47):
a team like the Raiders or something Jackson Darkets next year,
if it doesn't go well, then you just use one
of their picks to trade up and get a quarterback. Right,
So I think it would give you options. I would
could try to trade where you get multiple first round
picks and second round picks and kind of get to
restock a roster that needs to improve. Okay, we'll end

(01:27:09):
on this one question for the next mailback. This was
before the game. Do you think the Pats lost to
the Bills is getting overblown? I feel like going into
the season, if you said we split with the Bills,
that would be a big win. Obviously you don't like
blowing a fourth quarter lead, but may he's still a
young quarterback in the first year with a coach, offensive coordinator,

(01:27:32):
and the team is a work in progress, especially with
the defense and another number one wide receiver. I think
it was a big deal because you were up twenty
one to nothing at home. I think if you just
told me you lost thirty to twenty and the Bills
were up the whole time, it wouldn't have been that
big a deal. And as we saw with the Ravens game,

(01:27:53):
like you guys are a good team. Your quarterback is
extremely talented. Kyle Williams is just gives you an explosive
deep threat with a great deep ball player thrower, and
Diggs is just Listen, some people are paying in the ass,
but if they're a winning player, then, like I'm in
the NFL, they do not discriminate. Do you know what

(01:28:15):
the bad teams do? They take guys that are paying
in the asses that aren't winning players. Google Diggs's resume
from the Bills to the Vikings to now with the
Pats to the Texas, Like that guy's a part of winners.
Like he doesn't play, he contributes to winning and it
doesn't even feel like he's you know, I don't know
what happened with him and Josh and clear at the

(01:28:36):
end of Minnesota got a little weird, like he could
be a lot, but he's a winning player. He's clearly
a smart player. He's gonna play like that. You know,
if Henderson's healthy to go with Remandre. You know, you guys,
your offense is okay, it's just defensively isn't quite good enough.
You know, your offensive line's got to get healthy. I
saw they asked for Abel. You know, Will Campbell. Was

(01:28:57):
he at the Celtics game and they showed him all
on the big screen and he slammed a beer and
Vrabel said he's got to fire the strength coach after
seeing his chubby ass. That was funny. I mean, Vrabel's
a beauty. Isn't kind of crazy that? You know? Vrabel
gets fired and the Titans have just unraveled as a

(01:29:18):
franchise and he's out a year and he immediately goes
to the Pats and they're competing to be the one
seed year one. Now I get their schedules a little easy,
but still, I mean, that's that's pretty incredible. So I
the AFC is wide open, man, the NFC is wide open.
I said it last night. I think it's fair to
say of the fourteen teams going into the dance, ten

(01:29:39):
plus could win it. I mean, honestly, in the NFC,
if we just assumed the Lion they're not officially done,
but they're done. So it's the Packers, the Niners, Seattle,
the Rams, of the Eagles, and the Bears. Like the
Panthers are the Bucks, they're not winning it. But like
the Eagles couldn't beat the Rams, the Bears, I mean

(01:30:00):
they could win these games, just like the Bears. We
saw them beat the Eagles. Saw the Rams or the
Bears beat the Packers. I think the Packers could beat
the Niners or the Niners clearly beat the Seattle in
the Rams like no one would shock me if they
beat each other. And I would say the same for
the AFC. We saw the Jags kill the Broncos. I

(01:30:21):
think if they played ten times. The Broncos are gonna
win some games. Chargers could beat anyone on a given game, right.
The Texans, if their defense just obliterates people, could beat anybody.
The Bills have Josh Allen. They could easily win all
three games and represent the AFC, or they gonna get
bounce in the first round. I don't think the Steelers
could win the AFC, but they definitely can win a game.

(01:30:45):
Who am I missing? I mean, the Jags clearly can
win games, so I ten might be too low. Maybe
it's more like twelve. I have a hard time seeing
the Steelers win three games. You could say the Texans
offense still a little unpredictable. Clearly the Panthers are the Bucks,

(01:31:07):
but I think the other six teams could all win
the NFC. So maybe the numbers like ten or eleven
could win the Super Bowl or could represent their conference
in the Super Bowl. And you're definitely one of those.
I don't remember it being this open. I truly don't,
which is fun, which makes it kind of unpredictable, which

(01:31:27):
makes it like what's gonna happen? Better buckle up and watch.
That's why I keep telling Maria he better come on
a Wednesday or a Thursday or Tuesday, not even Monday
of the Wildcar weekend because I got Monday night football.
If you're listening to me, little buddy, I think the
sweet spot would be like Wednesday during the day, so

(01:31:48):
we get night's sleep, We kind of go into labor,
come out quick, and then we're home by Friday and
we're rocking and rolling, keep our fingers crossed. Probably come
like said day afternoon. But what are you gonna do?
I'll have a kid. Audios the volume mm hm

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