3 & Out - Tua Tagovailoa, Miami Dolphins UPSET Matthew Stafford’s Los Angeles Rams on MNF

John Middlekauff returns after another edition of Monday Night Football between the Miami Dolphins, Mike McDaniel and Tua Tagovailoa facing off against Sean McVay, Matthew Stafford and the Los Angeles Rams. John discusses how the Los Angeles Rams offense has looked stagnant since their team has gotten relatively healthy and wonders if the Rams are in trouble in the NFC West. Then, Middlekauff explains why this loss was “devastating” for Sean McVay’s squad who now finds themselves behind the 8-ball in a playoff race in the NFC. Despite having Puka Nacua and Cooper Kupp back the Rams couldn’t figure out how to move the ball against a Dolphins defense that stepped up to the plate on a big Monday night, and now they face an uphill battle heading into the second half of the NFL season. John salutes the Dolphins dynamic weapons in Tyreek Hill, Jaylen Waddle, De’Von Achane and Tua Tagovailoa for knocking out a 23-15 win and explains why the 3-6 squad is better than their record indicates. Then, another edition of Penthouse/Outhouse featuring Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs, Jared Goff’s Detroit Lions, Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills, the hapless New York Giants, Dallas Cowboys and the Port-a-Potty Carolina Panthers. Next, John wonders what current college football coaches, such as Kirby Smart and Lane Kiffin, could jump ship and head to the NFL like Nick Saban, Pete Carroll and Jim Harbaugh. Finally, John hits on a few major stories around the NFL. The Chicago Bears' dysfunction starts at the top of the organization. What are the Indianapolis Colts going to do moving forward? New Orleans Saints interim head coach, Darren Rizzi, clogs the toilet and wins a game. Jerry Jones continues his nonsensical ways.

3:23 - MNF Dolphins at Rams reaction

15:57 - NFL Penthouse/Outhouse

25:21 - What college coaches could we see in the NFL?

32:54 - Bears dysfunction starts at the top

42:53 - What are the Colts going to do?

50:23 - Saints interim HC Darren Rizzi clogs a toilet and wins a game

54:43 - Jerry Jones reacts to window drapes comment

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What is going on? Everybody? How are we doing? Hopefully
everyone's having a good day, a good night whenever you're
listening to this. I just watched the ram let's face
it get worked by the Dolphins. They did not score
a touchdown. Who would have saw that coming. The Rams
have some offensive issue. Sean McVay is gonna have to

(02:10):
go back to the drawing board. Nice win on the
road for Mike McDaniel to a Tongava loa Tyreek Hill
had a touchdown, Eh Chan Waddle. They're a good Dome team.
You know that team was? That team was born to
play in a dome. If they could play seventeen dome
games a year, keep too healthy, they'd score a lot

(02:31):
of points. And honestly, their defense tonight was really, really good.
I don't know what's going on with the Rams offense.
It's two straight weeks in regulation they've scored a total
of one touchdown and that's with Pooka and Cooper. So
we will dive into that. Obviously, it's Monday, so we'll
do the penthouse in the outhouse for the league, and
you know the outhouses, we've seen some moving and shaking

(02:53):
in there. I've tried to cut down the amount of
teams in the penthouse. I think tonight it'll just be two.
It could be a big shift. Next week we got
a big Eagle Washington game. We got a big Pittsburgh
Raven game. The Chiefs are playing the Bills. We know
the Chiefs are on scholarship, but Bills win that game,
they got to they'd have to come in there. I
was thinking about college coaches. Could there be a college

(03:15):
coach this year that makes the jump to the National
Football League? And then and then we'll just dive around
some other NFL topics. I'll do a big mail bag
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(03:57):
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(05:27):
and had had them minus three, and I knew early
on I was in major trouble. The Rams offense looked
awful and going to look back at the Seattle game
last week, they weren't that much better. They had twenty
points heading into overtime. They only scored one offensive touchdown
last week. Remember the second touchdown came on a Geno

(05:50):
pick six. So in the last two games with every
one back Matt Stafford, who just a couple weeks ago,
were like, God, this guy's top five quarterback. Pookah's healthy,
Cooper's healthy, their running back's good, They're getting offensive linemen back.
They have Sean freaking McVeigh calling their plays. Their offense
looks awful. I mean, tonight was a pretty rough night

(06:13):
for Sean McVay. Part of the reason I hammered them.
It was like Monday night football at home against one
of his buddies. Obviously, the Dolphins, you can't judge them
like they weren't the shitty version that when Tua wasn't playing.
I mean, that wasn't even an NFL team. When he
comes back, you know, they're like I thought they would

(06:34):
be seven to eight win team, feisty, good, indoors, bat outdoors,
inclement weather, like this's a good spot for him. But defensively,
I do not view them as good. And tonight the
Rams with firepower everywhere, could not score an offensive touchdown.
This was a pretty devastating loss for Sean McVay because

(06:55):
all the injuries they had early in the season. Like
last year, they found themselves behind the eight and now
they're four and five, And when you look around the
playoff picture, you go, well, the Eagles, who have eight
wins play the Commanders who have seven wins. Those two
teams are gonna be in the playoffs. The Detroit Lions

(07:15):
are gonna be in the playoffs. The Green Bay Packers
are gonna be in the playoffs. I don't know what
to think about Minnesota, but they got seven wins. Obviously
Atlanta doesn't matter. They're just gonna win their division. But
you also got the Arizona Cardinals, who are playing really
well and beat the shit out of the Rams earlier
in the season. Are six and four, and now the
forty nine Ers get McCaffrey back, and today Drake green

(07:36):
Law started to practice or his window opened up, so
it's like they're not gonna go away. Like this is
a tough spot for the Rams to lose this game.
It was gonna be hard regardless. Once you get yourself
in that tough spot, you gotta, you know, kind of
climb your way out of the hole. But you can't
be losing at home as a favorite on Monday Night
football to a team that, like I said, two and

(08:00):
doesn't really represent like they're not a god awful squad,
but the Rams should be better than them. And I
thought they got worked tonight, and I thought McVeigh against
a first year defensive coordinator who it wasn't that long
ago he was a player, kind of kicked their ass.
I mean, Stafford was under siege all night long. They

(08:20):
were awful on third down. They could get no rhythm
passing the ball. This is two weeks in a row
they've struggled to run the ball, so there's no balance
to their offense. And I think sometimes Sean mcvayh you know,
he gets so directly kind of tied and correlated with
Kyle and even Lafloor. Of the three guys, hey by

(08:43):
far will be the quickest to I'm just gonna go
pass happy, I'm just gonna pass the ball, And tonight
it's like seventeen to six and he'll start slinging it around,
you know, like he's down thirty points, which again most
coaches historically in football, especially in the inn at age,
are wired to pass. And they got Matt Stafford and

(09:03):
they got two really good wide receivers. But when your
offense isn't isn't clicking, like keep hammer in that run game,
like that back can bust a twenty yard run at
any moment, and I think he kind of gets away
from it quick in the night. They were struggling to
block Weaver kind of had him timed on pressures and
it was just not good. I mean Stafford, even when
he wasn't sacked. I think he was sacked four times.

(09:27):
That's what I wrote down, but he might have been
sacked again toward the end of the game. Yeah, he
sacked four times. Felt like he was pressured a bunch
and just did not play that well. I mean, period,
point blank, end of story. And this is a guy
a couple weeks ago you're like, God, they get hot
to get these receivers back. This is a ten win team,
and you watch them today, and even if you watch

(09:47):
them a lot in that Seattle game, it's like, eugh,
something's weird, Like it just doesn't quite look the same.
And what's crazy about the Rams is I read this
article on the Athletic about Chris Shula, who's a long
time I'm good friend of McVeigh. They played college football together.
Who's the grandson of Don Shula. His uncle, I think
was Mike who coached Alabama coach in the NFL forever.

(10:11):
His dad also coached in the NFL. Then I think
in the late nineties, just went to run the Shula
the companies and obviously the steakhouses that you guys down
in the South. No, we don't really, I've never seen
him out west, but obviously they have a big, you know,
booming business and bury football family and kind of got

(10:31):
a shot. And you could tell the way mcveigh's talked
about it, and even in the article that it was
it was tough because they were so close. You know,
he wasn't going to hand them the job, and he
gave it to him based on merit. And he's been awesome.
I mean, honestly, you remove that Arizona game, which, let's
face it, if you're a little off and you play
this Cardinal team, they can throw up some points on you.

(10:52):
They have a bunch of young players. I mean Jared
Verse that stat that he's their first first round pick, in.
I mean, it makes sense because we know about the
trade they made for Jared Goff, and the trade they
made for Jalen Ramsey, and just the trades they've made
over the years for different players. I'm probably forgetting was

(11:13):
it Brandon Cooks or was it Sammy Watkins. There's a
lot of players mixed in there, But that's a I mean,
that's approaching a decade without a first round pick, and
again well worth it obviously, then trading for Matt Stafford
as well. That dude's a baller. It's pretty crazy that
Jared Verse fell to nineteen, Like there is zero chance

(11:37):
in this world. In five years there will be ten
players drafted above him that are even close to as
good as him. If I was a betting man right now,
I'd say five or six that in five years you
feel good, are Yeah, we're glad we picked this guy
over Jared Verse. I mean, that's agent pretty well for
the Rams because he is a monster. But when you're

(11:59):
defense plays that well, like Listen Hill's healthy wattles flying
around to while he'll throw you the ball, still makes
you know enough plays to keep you on your toes
a chance, just dynamic. I mean Mozart at any moment
can run like ninety miles an hour. It's a tough
defense to play, especially indoors. I mean that team is
not built to play in the AFC against the Ravens,

(12:22):
against the Bills, and against the Chiefs and freezing cold weather.
I mean that franchise isn't that. They have a long
history of just shitting the bed in cold understandable. I
live in Scottsdale. It gets sixty degrees. I'm freezing my
ass off. It's human nature. But you put that team
with that coach and those weapons in a dome scary
to play. I mean that's that's especially on a long week.

(12:46):
And listen, I'm not I think Mike McDaniel is overrated.
No one's ever disputed he's a good offensive X's and
those guys and Shua went toe to toe with him,
you know, to barely through for two hundred yards, picked
him off once forced a fumble, could have picked him
off again. The dude that had the pick early in
the game dove in a ball hit off his hands.

(13:07):
So your defense is balling in your offense, which I
think Cooper cups one of the highest paid wide receivers
in the league on a per year basis. Matt Stafford
is obviously very very highly paid, and your coach is
a sixteen to seventeen million dollar offensive coordinator, and honestly,
he's proven to be one of the better ones over

(13:28):
the stretch of the course of his career. And tonight
he got punked on Monday night football against a team
that's not sniffing the playoffs. That's tough. And this is
where these Monday night games are just weird, because, like,
you know, at the end of the day, what are
the Dolphins gonna win six to seven games? Now? The
two was back like they're gonna be not even close

(13:50):
to a playoff team, But like you get him in
a primetime spot, like it's a big deal. These people
are humans, Like your record kind of goes out the
win to me. And Monday night games in November and December,
and I think they're scary for good teams. And honestly,
I thought the Rams were good coming in tonight. I

(14:10):
gotta just I gotta pull back a little bit. I
don't think they're bad, but I don't I don't view
them the same after the last couple of weeks. I mean,
Gino handed them, you know, an overtime appearance last week,
and tonight was bad. Tonight was rough at home. Just
the Dolphins defense looking like, you know, the two thousand

(14:33):
and one Ravens against you or something. It's it's crazy
to see not being able to score one touchdown with
Cooper Cup, Pooka Nakua, Kieran Williams, Matt Stafford and Sean
McVay call on the play. It's just crazy to me,
it really is. And honestly, it didn't even feel like
they were getting close. I mean, they were forced to
kick long field goals. It's not like, wow, they had

(14:55):
to settle again for a seven yard field goal. It's like, no,
they're they're kicking like fifty to fifty five yard field goals,
you know, I mean, what are the distances of the
field goals they kicked tonight? Like they were long? Let
me pull up my man who was five or six.
His long was fifty five. I mean, it's just that's.

(15:16):
Sean mcvay's not gonna sleep well tonight. He's really not. Yeah,
I'm just kind of shocked to what I saw, especially
with you know, I think two years ago when they
kind of especially Aaron Donald retires last year or this
off you know, last off season or whatever, so this
first year gone, You're just like, you know their defense lotty,
and you're watching them, You're like, God, I like all

(15:38):
these players. I really do they tackle well? They hit well?
Someone whoever the next Jets head coaches. I was thinking
this tonight when Jalen Ramsey made his sweet open field tackle.
The first thing I would do if it's Rex Ryan,
whoever it is, I am showing Jalen Ramsey and Richard

(15:59):
Sherman open field tackle. I mean, I'm having my quality
control guy just set up real after reel and Sauce
Gardner is gonna study those tapes because you know Sace Gardener,
who's had an atrocious season for you know, a hyped
up player. If you're gonna be a big long corner

(16:20):
like you gotta play like that. I mean, Jalen Ramsey
and Richard Sherman. I mean, I want my tall, long
corners to hit. One thing I've always expected about Jalen
is Jayalen will fuck you up. I mean, and listen,
a lot of corners won't. But if you're gonna have
these six two sixty three long corners like I like
them to turn into safeties at a moment's notice. I'm

(16:40):
watching Sauce Carter the other day fall off tackles left
and right, but kind of clicked into me tonight. If
whoever the next head coaches, that would be one of my
first moves. But other than that, man, huh yeah, rouughel Okay,
let's uh, this won't take too long. The penthouse in
the outhouse. You know, my fiance Maria just joined a

(17:04):
new brokerage. Brokerage. I think I'm not a real estate guy.
She joined a new real estate agency. They're a big
luxury brand and they they do pretty well. Let's just
say so. It's a very awesome opportunity for and tomorrow
night they're having an open house and the home is

(17:25):
twenty nine million dollars, and if it sells a twenty
nine million dollars, it'll be the second highest per square
foot house in the history of state. We're getting a
lot of these, you know, a smart people fleeing California
coming here. It's driving out the price a little bit.
Not that I could buy the house, but someone will.
And I was thinking about my buddy's on the Chiefs,

(17:46):
just how well they are living. And I just saw
that Kelsey built this mansion in Kansas City, and his
mansion was like seven million dollars. It's got like an
underground you know. Obviously, depending on where you live, the
mansions cost a little bit different one having a mansion,
depending on how many people lived at your house. I
remember here in fifty cent I think talk about this
one time he bought I think a mansion from either

(18:09):
Mike Tyson or holy Field, and he's like, bro, it's
kind of scary. You like you'd like look down a hole.
It's pitch black. It's like as long as a football field.
You didn't know if you need to bring like an
ak with you just to go grab, you know, a
cold water in the middle of the night. You just
had no fucking houses like a you know, an army barracks.
And I just think the Chiefs, it just doesn't get

(18:32):
any better, like you just it's impossible to live any
better than they're living right now. Because even you're playing
in these close games, no one ever thinks you're gonna lose,
and you just don't lose. You just cannot lose. Yesterday
I read the day that the dude Leo Chanel that

(18:55):
Patrick Mahomes claims that they call call him John Cena,
and they showed a clip at the parade. He like
jumped up on the bus and pulled him up. He's
obviously a big time freak athlete, very strong, and he
looked at Spags and it was like, do you want
us to let them score? And Spac said no, And granted,

(19:15):
if they had, someone probably would have fallen down to
like the ten yard line, so it wouldn't mattered either,
But he said no, we're gonna play defense, and obviously
they blocked that field goal. It's just I read an
article today that they've already had more close wins by
week ten than the seven Patriots had all season long,

(19:37):
so that they are just living it. This is the
best possible life you can have as a football fan.
This is like the peak of the Saban dynasty. If
you're an Alabama fan, it's as good as it gets.
It's like you can't if you are a human, like
it's like bezos or elon, Like, you don't get any richer.
So when you see all these people like Bears fans

(19:57):
and just all the shitty teams fans just around the league,
who are just miserable. You're completely opposite. You're it's just
it's just a great way to live. And that's the
difference of like you and Detroit, because you guys have
lived pretty well for a while, even before Mahomes got there.
Like you are a real team competing for the playoffs.
Detroit has like entered that chat after thirty years of

(20:20):
being the biggest joke organization arguably in all of sports.
Are right up there with anybody, and now they're just
like your neighbors. You're like, hey, what's up, man, Fuck,
how's it going. What are you up to today? Uh? Nothing,
just looking at the bank account, living a good life.
He throws five interceptions. They're down twenty three to seven
and a half on the road on a game that

(20:41):
like no one's been like, oh they lost whatever, they'll
still end up with, you know, fourteen wins, but no,
we're gonna win. And then after Dan Campbell's post, games
are always going viral Schefters, Instagram and it to you know,
out to the world. Other people are forwarding into all
over the place. Get you see it, like seventeen different places.
Life's good, man, Like you're cool. You guys are cool.

(21:05):
You know, think about that. You guys are cool, Like
if you're a Chiefs fan, you're like, we've kind of
been cool since Andy got here. We've gotten really cool
since my homes started playing. But even those couple of
years before you had like Alex with Tyreek and kel
Steels really fun team. It's like the Lions are just
now like the equal and it's like Jared Gosser quarterback,
and is that cool. It's just it's crazy how fast

(21:27):
that happened, I do think, And they're the only two
teams in it right now. Like we'll see this. Whoever
wins this Steeler Ravens game, I'll put you in there.
Josh Allen just threw a couple of picks, you know
that game, weird game against Indianapolis Green Bay off week, Eagles.
You win this week, you'll you'll be in there as well.

(21:48):
I mean, you're beating the shit out of you know,
Jerry Jones and his shitty squad. But just right now,
there are two teams. Other two teams. You know, three
or four teams could enter the chat here the next
couple weeks, but I think they belong by themselves right now.
I do think we have to remove the porta Potti
Panthers because they deserved the porta potty label. It was

(22:14):
really bad, and it smelled in there. It was disgusting.
It didn't get any worse. It was. It was as
bad as you get. You know, sometimes too, if like
the latch doesn't work and you're stuck and it really smells,
and like that, they're the toilet paper is in the
porta potty and someone has taken a dump over it
and you just feel stuck and it's just disgusting. Well,

(22:36):
they got their way. They're out. Not that they're good.
They're still bad. But you win games, you take out
people like you deserve to get out. But if they
beat you in Germany and your quarterback makes forty million
dollars a year, you have to replace them. So the
Giants are now the porta potty, like I said, with

(22:58):
all the toilet paper that's like probably like three or
four feet high, and then there are just several dumps
on top. That to me is the New York Giants
right now. And you could argue the Cowboys are every
bit they're equal. And remember they played in a close
game like three weeks ago, and that's when Dak was playing,
so you could argue the Giants and the Cowboys, there

(23:19):
is no difference. Coward thinks the Cowboys are the worst
team in the league. This version that we're watching right
now hard to dispute. I mean, they suck pretty bad.
It's crazy that this team is also in that big
pile of shit. But it's hard to take the bear seriously.
They scored three points against the New England Patriots at home.

(23:42):
Three points. They had the number one overall pick. They
took a fucking quarterback who was supposed to be a
generational talent. I do think, and listen, I would have
taken them number one two. I think I said this
at the time, so I'm not trying to act like
you know, six months later, I'm changing my tune to
be a generational talent. I do think you need size

(24:04):
as well. Right to me, you watched Josh Allen generational talent,
Andrew Luck was a generational talent. They also got to
be huge. Caleb's a little short to just be considered.
How many tiny little guys are considered generational talents, so
I think we overuse that term. He's a very talented
player who looks awful, but that they took a hyped

(24:27):
player and he's like gotta be one of, if not
the worst quarterback in the league. Over the last couple
of weeks, they took a wide receiver at nine, they
traded for another wide receiver. They can't score a point.
It's crazy. How can you not move the ball? I
think they had one drive over like twenty one yards
against the New England Patriots, not the Belichick twenty fifteen version.

(24:50):
I feel for Bears fans man, it's it's pretty bad.
I never would have thought. I thought you guys were
a little overhyped after you won some of those games,
But I never thought you be in the outhouse, you know,
with teams like the Porta Potti Panthers that are still
roaming around, but they're not stuck in the in the
toilet area with with the Giants, Cowboys and Bears. It's

(25:11):
hard the AFC. I actually think the Titans, I know
they have a bad record, but you watch them that
they're feisty. Team Jacksonville. I have just I it's hard
to even talk about Jacksonville. Mac Jones, my guy Doug
who is who's one of the nicest guys in the league.
I think he's starting to break a little bit that
they asked him after the game because the game ended

(25:32):
on a mac Jones interception. I think they were down
what twelve to seven? I mean, it was had to
be probably top two or three ugliest games of the
entire year up to this point, and even when the
season ends, it'll probably be a lock top three ugly
game that no one will ever talk about or watch again.
The game ends on mac Jones, you know, the last

(25:54):
drive overthrows a guy by twenty yards, and the press
ass Dug like, you know, what was the plan on
that play? And Doug's getting snippy now, and he's like, uh,
you know, even if I told you guys, you wouldn't understand.
We'll just go back and look at the film. I'm like, oh,
this is this is getting ugly. But that's what happens
when you roll out mac Jones. You got I mean,
I don't think you could beat like Georgia or Tennessee.

(26:16):
But you know, speaking of college, the other thing is,
you know sometimes I was thinking about this today, Like
when I was with the Eagles and Nandy got fired.
We hired Chip Kelly from Oregon, and the reason they
hired Chip Kelly is because Bill O'Brien had turned them down.
So a coach for the Eagles was basically coming from college.

(26:37):
And over the course of I would say the last
twenty years, right, we saw Pete Carroll leave USC. We
saw Urban Meyer I think he was out of the
league or college for a year, you know, go to Jacksonville.
We've seen it happen, and historically we've seen it happen
a lot. When you look around the crop of guys,
assuming Ben Johnson will leave, and I don't think there's

(26:58):
any lock. I mean, he's turned down jobs. Then there's
the crew of like Liam Cohen's Slowick's, Belichick's a wild card,
Mike Vrabel. Could there be a college coach that we're
not talking about that makes the leap to the pros?
And I was thinking, you know, Georgia plays Tennessee this

(27:20):
this week, and if Tennessee, it's games at Georgia, So
I'm gonna assume George is gonna win. But if they
were to lose, like they will not make the playoffs.
And Kirby's already won a couple national championships. He's complained
a lot like this, And listen, I mean these are
first class problems. But it used to be a lot

(27:41):
easier for him. He could buy the players under the table,
stack his team and kick the shit out of everybody
beside Nick Saban. And now with the nil transfer portal,
even though he can still has a lot of money
and can buy players, guys leave when they're not starting
to pain his ass, and it's just not as easy.
So if you're gonna compete at the high level, wouldn't
you entertain and listen? I don't know if it would work.

(28:05):
I'm pretty sure. He's only coached in the pros for
a couple of years when he was with Saban, I
think at Miami. But I could see because people have
talked about it before. The scouting community loves the guy.
Just a tough, old school guy looking. He coached in

(28:25):
the NFL for one year, So that's something that I'm
always apprehensive about. I'm not saying it would be easy.
I'm not even saying it would be a good hire.
But I could see Kirby being interested and putting it out. Yeah,
I'm willing to talk. Now, would someone be interested? I
don't know. I think the other wild card would be

(28:47):
Lane Kiffin once Florida announces that they're bringing back Billy Napier,
Which how funny was that they announced that? And I
think they were down? Was it thirty five to six
at halftime at Texas? Nothing like a now to your
fan base, our coach will return and then in the
first half being down about one hundred points. But that happened,

(29:08):
and it's like where you know, Lane's done a good
job at Ole Miss. They if they went out, they're
gonna go to the playoffs. He's had a fantastic run,
But like, is he just going to coach the rest
of his life at Ole Miss? I know he makes
a lot of money and they got good nil but
like to me, he would love to go to a
bigger job, and I don't know if that bigger job

(29:30):
really exists right now. So, I mean, he comes from
a long line of NFL guys. I mean, his dad's
one of the most famous defensive coordinators ever. He I
just think I would have to imagine he'd be interested.
Now people have to be interested. Back would a GM
want to work with him? I definitely think he's mellowed

(29:50):
out with time and age. But I just think he's
a guy to keep an eye on that would be interested.
And if you saw Lane Kiff in his interview with
SO and so team, I think it's pretty believable. I
think two guys that their names have been floated out
in the past that are just are in a no
go zone. You know, for a long period of time,

(30:10):
people viewed Brian Kelly as a guy that like this
would work in the NFL. I don't think any guy
has hurt his stock the last couple of years. Uh, well,
one guy has more. But like I always thought, Brian
Kelly was really impressive at Notre Dame. You know, it
turns out Notre Dame fucking plays nobody. Their schedule is
a joke, and he ran a good program. He recruited well,

(30:32):
but anytime he played a real team, you never bet
on the guy. And what we witnessed the other night
at Alabama was like, I mean, is he gonna keep
his job at LSU for two or three more years
if that keeps happening, No, he will not. And the
other guy and you're gonna hear this name, and I
think you would have heard it way more if they
would have success, is Caleb Williams. He's a coach. How
about Lincoln Riley. You just you could not hire Lincoln

(30:54):
Riley in the NFL. Yeah, I mean, I don't know
if USC could do it over again, they wouldn't hire
him at USC. So it's just crazy how fast things change.
And that's where in college football, when your name gets
in the cycle and you have it, you gotta pounce.
Because Lincoln could have got an NFL job three years ago,
no problem. Remember Pat Fitzgerald is like everyone's interested in

(31:15):
Pat Fitzgerald in Northwestern. In Northwestern, now, he wasn't that
interested in the NFL. But then eventually that weird stuff happens.
He gets fired and he's just out of coaching. Right. Remember, uh,
perty's guy what the hell is his name? Matt Campbell
at Iowa State. It was like, yeah, it's not just USC,
and like Texas are interested, like NFL teams are sniffing around.
It's like, man, if you can get a job, you

(31:37):
gotta pounce. Because I'm at a bar on Saturday after lunch,
just having a you know, midday cocktail, nothing too crazy.
Look up and Kansas is beating the shit out. I
was stayed at Arrowhead. I'm like, damn, this team was
undefeated two weeks ago and now they're going the wrong way.
So things change really really fast in football. So to me,
the two names that would not shock me if they interviewed.

(31:58):
I'm not saying they're gonna get you, but I could
see GM's ownership front offices talk about these two guys
would be definitely lame. But I think keep an eye
on Kirby Smart. You know, I was thinking about this

(32:28):
today because obviously there's a lot of discussion out there
on the streets about the Chicago Bears, and I was
having lunch after a good little morning sweat. I guess
it wasn't too early in the morning because it was lunchtime.
But I was reading Mike Sando's article that he puts
out every single week on the Athletic and he usually

(32:50):
talks to executives and coaches that give him pretty good quotes.
And you know, the Bears, eber Flus being a dead
man walking, the aggression of Caleb Williams, and the ultimate
just embarrassment which is their franchise, especially offensively, given how
much hype was behind this team, has been something I

(33:11):
didn't quite expect it to quite you know, like most
people get this ugly it's been really bad, and there
are a lot of different elements to this, but I
think there's something that not many people are talking about,
and I was thinking about, Like when I was a kid,
the boss in my house it was very clear was
my father. When I got in trouble and he wasn't around,

(33:34):
it was immediately related to me, you better be ready
because I'm going to call your father. I will talk
to your dad, and that usually changed it. Like most
people in a home, like there's a hierarchy and you
know exactly every single person in that home knows who
to answer for. I would say any successful business. When

(33:56):
I was part of football teams when I was at
Fresno State, was very clear who was in charge. His
name was Pat Hill. When I was with the Eagles,
same thing, Andy Reid, and directly for me, Howie Roseman.
Like there wasn't like this baby guy you got to
answer that. No, it was very clearly defined. And I

(34:17):
think most people agree. Wherever you work or if you're
raising children, there has to be some sort of like
the buck stop somewhere. And one quote in the article
about the Bears was, I have a heart. This is
an unnamed executive have a hard time seeing Kevin Warren

(34:38):
hire a big name, proven head coach. And for those
of you that don't know, is Kevin Warren, for my money,
is the disgrace Big ten commissioner who tried to shut
down football back in twenty twenty and now runs the Bears,
And like basically every franchise in pro sports, is in
charge of the business operation, and for a team like

(35:01):
the Bears, he's in the pursuit of getting a new stadium.
Very understandable, normal role. But something stood out to me
in Hard Knocks when Ryan Poles signed DJ Moore to
an extension, it was like in the third or fourth
episode when he was going over the contract, he wasn't

(35:21):
doing it with the owner. He was doing it with
Kevin Warren. So in the franchise in Chicago, if the
head coach or GM wants to do something regarding their
team with money, they don't go to the owner. They
have to get the okay from a guy who does
not sign their checks, a guy who does not own

(35:44):
the team, who's essentially a highly paid intermediary. And listen,
that's not abnormal in some industries, but in football, I
would say that's a problem. Andy Reid and Breadveach. If
they need to get something done, there's one person they
talk to, and that's the guy at the top of

(36:05):
the food chain, the owner of the franchise. If Kyle
Shanahan and John Lynch want to get something done, love Alguido.
He's the man. Just like Donovan in Kansas City, a
lot of presidents, high level guys, the coach and the
GM do not need to go through them when it
comes to contracts, when it comes to trades, when it

(36:26):
comes to football related Matt matters. Howie Roseman doesn't go
to Don Simolensky, another great guy, when he needs to
get something football wise done, he goes to Jeffrey Luriy.
So you could argue the Bears their home is all
out of whack because the ownership, which clearly is more
than questionable. They've had the team for a long long time.

(36:50):
I think it's fair to say don't really know what
they're doing. Little archaic in their practices. Have this guy
who listen totally understand hiring someone to run point on
something serious like this. When I was in the barry
the forty nine ers did the same thing. You hire
business people to take on a stadium. That is very important.

(37:12):
That person does not need to be briefed on the
contract details of your wide receiver, and if they are,
that's very telling. So we can blame eber Flews clearly's
over his head. We can blame Shane Waldron obviously is
not a very good offensive coordinator. We could blame Caleb

(37:32):
not playing very well. Looks completely lost. As Sam Darnold
once famously said, seeing ghosts and running into sacks. Was
sacked nine times against the Patriots, nine times. This was
a franchise that up till November tenth, at least in

(37:53):
the morning of November tenth, had sixteen sacks on the season.
So they're not exactly coming at with Lawrence Taylor and
Reggie White off the edges. And listen, if you watch
a breakdown of a sacks, some of them are on him.
You don't get sacked nine times and it's all on
the offensive line. And obviously their offensive line is not
played well. But Caleb is not playing well, and they

(38:15):
got a lot of different factors. But if they're gonna
move on and get their shit together, it is very,
very difficult to operate with a guy like Kevin Warren
who's essentially in charge of football. That's who Ryan Pole's
answers to. That's who the head coach answers to. If
I'm a Bears fan, that can't be allowed. And as

(38:35):
long as it is allowed, you got no shot. None.
You're not gonna be able to compete with the Detroit
Lions and Holmes and Dan Campbell. You are not gonna
be able to compete with Goodakins on the floor. It's
not gonna happen. Now. You could argue, well, Murphy played
somewhat of a role like Kevin Warren did with the package.
They don't have an owner, so it's kind of a

(38:56):
unique situation. Who do you think Kevin O'Connell and QUESSI
are answering to. When it comes to the Minnesota Vikings,
we know Bionna And meanwhile in Chicago, a franchise that
finally was like, Okay, they might be real now, maybe
they'll eventually beat the Packers. Nope, because their owner is

(39:18):
a guy that doesn't even actually own the team, at
least the one that the head coach and the GM
are going to answer to. And this is going to
be a problem this offseason, I promise you it will
when eberflews, that entire staff gets blown out. The number
one thing every coach is going to ask about when
they're being interviewed is like, who do I answer to?

(39:39):
Who is my responsibility beholden to? Who would I have
an issue do I go to? Because my friends in
the league that have these jobs, they answer to one
human and it's the guy that this entire franchise is
under his name. If I'm not answering to that guy
when I have questions or I have concerns and I

(40:00):
have to go through essentially a middleman, we got fucking problems.
So I think if you're a Bears fan right now,
like we got to figure out this Kevin Warren situation.
He's not the reason you just got your ass kicked
in New England. I'm not putting this season on him,
but from a big picture structural operation, it's a problem.

(40:22):
And you're not gonna be able to hire anybody, especially
if he's unwilling to because he wants some more of
a puppet and because that's the budget that he's allowing,
because he's in control of the money, It's gonna have
issues like we just saw this, you know, in in Atlanta,
Rich McKay the general manager. They didn't want to bring
in Belichick, so they went with Rahie Morris, really good coach,

(40:43):
high level guy, but like it does limit your pool
and the Bears obviously aren't ever fishing off the deep
end of the pier because they're kind of cheap. And
then you have this guy that's like in this mid
I'm not a big history role guy, right, Like what's
exactly well, his titles a president, but he kind of

(41:04):
we got to go through him for contracts if we
want to make a big trade. He okays it. So
he's not just the business president. He's essentially the CEO
of the company. But they never want to put that
on them. Why because when you lose, they don't want
to take any responsibility. It's why if you look around
the best teams in the league, the president is an
essential role for all these teams. He's making millions of

(41:26):
dollars with most operations. But like Eric DaCosta and John Harbaugh,
the first thing they do is don't go to the
president of the team. They have a major problem, a
major question, they call the owner. So I would say
this Chicago, it sucks. I mean it really does. Seeing
some of the stats, I didn't quite realize because I

(41:48):
had it on a four box, just truly how bad
it was. As a buddy told me today at the gym,
forty three yards passing at halftime. I don't think they
had a drive over twenty five yards. I mean it was.
It just doesn't get any uglier. Three points in an
NFL game in twenty twenty four. That's that's difficult. That's
really difficult. I just think they got some big picture

(42:09):
issues with the setup of the operation, and I don't
know how that changes as long as Kevin Warren's in
the building. I do think the Colts. You know this
when you take a project. We talked about this with
Anthony Richardson within the last couple weeks, right when they
originally drafted him, when they started playing them, when they

(42:30):
benched them. It is difficult to deal with projects when
you have expectations like Drake may like can he play
winning football right now? I don't truly know right like
can you just could you put him on a good
team and compete to make the playoffs. I watched him yesterday,

(42:52):
I've watched him the last couple weeks. I like what
I see, he clearly is very gifted. As me and
Colin talked about the comps of Justin, Herbert seems like
a just a positive, uplifting human being easy got to
root for. Is he going to be a winning player?
I don't know. But the best part of being just
a project, the guy with no expectations on a shitty team,

(43:12):
doesn't matter. Make some plays here and there, and everyone
loves you. But when you're an Anthea Richardson situation and
you're a project, but you're on a team that like
their expectations to win ten plus games and be playing
the first weekend of the playoffs, and I mean honestly,
to compete to win the division, so to have a
home game the first weekend of the playoffs. Once you

(43:35):
bench the guy, And this is what we talk about
a lot with coordinators because obviously, you know, listen, I
think Liam Cohen with Tampa and they've lost two games
in a row. I think the guy's doing a fucking
phenomenal job. That guy's impressive. The Gannon's crew, his defensive
and offensive coordinator kicking ass. Obviously, you know, Ben Johnson

(43:57):
has been phenomenal. Kingsbury's been awesome. Look at what Arthur
Smith is doing in Pittsburgh. Now, Arthur Smith's been a
head coach before, but you just never know until I
put you in the lead seat how you handle these things,
because like you don't have to. It's not your call
as an offensive coordinator who gets benched and who plays.

(44:19):
It's on the head coach, the owner and the general manager.
And in Chicago Kevin Warren. But in Indy, like Change Siken,
it wasn't his job to be like, we bench Carson
Wentz we go with Jalen Hurts, we bench this player.
He obviously gives his input to Sirianni and Howie, but
it's not his decision. And when he had to make

(44:41):
this decision along with Chris Ballard to do this Joe
Flacko move, which was understandable, totally get it. But when
you make that move, you kind of need to win.
And the forty nine ers why they avoided people never
like you see this sometimes on the internet like how
did this team avoid criticism? I don't know. They went
to three straight conference championships within playing four games, Like, yes,

(45:05):
it was a disaster losing out on those picks, and
if they could do it over again, of course they
wouldn't have made the trade and drafted the player, but
they did and they continued to win. Hell, this year
for the forty nine ers has been one of the
craziest seasons I've ever seen. You got their long snapper
popping off when their kicker is being told by one

(45:27):
of their star players just to lock in. People had
to give them a little little choke slam to quiet
them up, which I completely support. Debo, like the long snapper,
keep your mouth shut. No one wants to hear from you.
You're like a little kid on Thanksgiving, a little kid table.
Just sit over there, enjoy your food, and be glad
you got invited, because no one needs to hear No

(45:48):
one needs to hear a peep, especially with something as
innocuous as like lock in after your missus and field goals.
It wasn't even directed at you. You're not the coach,
thank god, because your unit's a joke, an abomination relative
to the rest of the NFL. But the forty nine
ers win, so they have handled the disastrous move they

(46:08):
made for a major project who's not nearly as talented
as Anthony Richinson. I mean, hell, he can't even play
in Dallas, but he's not winning. And Joe Flack of
the last two weeks has not been that good. I mean, yesterday,
if I told you going into the Colts game, if
you're a Colts fan, Josh Allen is not going to
throw for a touchdown and he's going to throw two interceptions,

(46:33):
he'd be like, listen, I'd like our chances. You were
never really in the game. Flaco threw three picks. Doesn't
quite look like he has the same magic as he
did last year, and maybe it was. I mean Cleveland
last year at the same time was a better team.
I would say Cleveland had more talent. But when you
make that move, which totally supported and totally understood why

(46:56):
you made it, once you lose, it becomes kind of controversial.
It's like is this right? Does this guy know what
he's doing? And it also puts the microscope on you.
And I do think this team has been pretty polarizing
by a lot of people in the league because people
think like, this team doesn't actually win that much. It's
not like they go to the playoffs ever. I mean,

(47:19):
when's the last time they've been to the playoffs? The
year with Philip Rivers, when they were one and done.
This is a team where their general manager has got
a lot of friends in the NFL or excuse me,
in the media, and he's highly thought of, and listen,
I think overall he's done a pretty good job. But
at the end of the day, your job is ultimately
defined by winning and losing on Sundays. And right now,

(47:40):
the Cults are four and six and they play the
Jets this week in New York, then they play the Lions,
then they go on the road in New England, then
they go on the road in Denver. So when you're
four and six, even if you just go two and
two in these next two games, we're talking about a
team that's what six and eight, while you end with
the Titans, Giants and Jags, your margin Ferrera would basically

(48:03):
be zero. You would have to run the table to
go nine and eight, and that doesn't even guarantee you
a playoff spot. I have a hard time seeing them
with the current situation of Flacco, or they go back
to Anthony Richardson going three to one in that stretch,
like the way Flacco is playing, They're no lock to
just go on the road and win at New England.
I definitely think they lose to the Lions and lose

(48:25):
to the Broncos. So best case, like I said, is
two and two, and that means they would have to
sweep those last three games to get to nine and eight,
and they probably wouldn't even control their own destiny. But
I do think you're gonna really start feeling the heat
of just like, what's the plan here? Because if you
are going to take a step back and quote unquote
stunt his growth, and who knows if he'd even have

(48:47):
the capability of growing after the player we watched early
this season. But once you don't win, it becomes a problem.
And that's the best part to me about pro sports.
It's like it's very very black and white, and only
the elite of the elites get to talk about the process.
Said it all the time, like you can. If you're average,

(49:09):
no one cares about your process. Nick Saban could make
a living off selling his process because he won national
championships all the time. I want to know how Jeff
Bezos goes about his business why because he's successful, So
like Shane Steiken, this ain't really working, not working at all.

(49:32):
And if you end up going seven to ten and
all of a sudden, you go into an off season
of like, we don't even know what we have at
quarterback going into year three, you got a major problem
in hand. This is one of the funniest things I've

(49:54):
ever heard in my entire life, and anyone that's lived
in a big city, I think, especially as a single person,
can relate to this. But I want to go to
Darren Rizzy who congrats to the New Orleans Saints who
snapped a seven game losing streak, and because they're so
shitty this year, the rivalry doesn't quite feel the same.

(50:17):
But I would say for a lot of Sean Payton's
ten uere with Drew Brees and Matt Ryan. I'm not
a huge NFC South guy, but that that game was
always really cool. Saints Falcons Division games, they get weird,
but Darren Rizzy and Derek Carr take out the classic
interim coach boost. But he told a story after the

(50:39):
game about how his day started, and it's it's pretty classic.
Let's just take a quick listen to Darren Rizzy.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
No, I mean, I'm a pretty open guy, So this
is how my day started. I got to get down
here to the stadium, get down, our superdown my goat,
and the head coach is locker room, which you know,
I've never used before. So here I am early the
more I go to the bathroom and this how my
day started. I clogged toilet.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
And I'm like, this is gonna be a crappy day,
pun intended. And so with listen, I'm like, Okay, this
is not really a great start to the day. Here
we go and so yeah, I'm not really feeling like
a head coach of an NFL team right now. So
so I'm like, really, this is really how we're gonna
start my day.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
So you know what this reminds me of. And anyone
who's lived in a big city like a New York,
A Chicago, San Francisco in your twenties and you're single,
so you date, well, there are a lot of people
living in older buildings, and in some of those buildings,
especially if you have a one bedroom apartment, sometimes the

(51:40):
bathrooms feel like they're basically in the living room. And
I know, at least in San Francisco, there were rarely
fans in the bathroom. So if you don't know someone
that well and you're going over to their place for
the first time, or even if they're coming over to
your place the first time, you kind of hear everything
that's going on. And I would say the nightmare of

(52:02):
any human being would be to clog a toilet over
someone that you are just you know, just started dating.
Like it'd be a pretty embarrassing move. And it was
always something that gave me the scaries in the back
of my head. And sometimes you can't control it. You're
like over there, like I gotta go to the bathroom
and then there's no fan. You're like turning on the sink,
like I hope I'm not echoing throughout the whole building.

(52:24):
But this football coach, who I can't even imagine, who
gets the interim tag. And anytime you get the interim tag,
it's an opportunity to really put yourself on the map,
not necessarily to get the full time job. I doubt
he's gonna get it, And I just think though a
lot of people take notice. You know, it changed Dan
Campbell's career. He ended up going to work for Sean Payton.

(52:46):
Rich Pasacia got a large amount of money to go
to Green Bay and be the special teams coach. So
even if it doesn't lead to becoming a head coach.
I do think it can, you know, raise your income
level by fifty percent. If you're making eight hundred and
you show you're a really impressive guy. People are gonna
watch you to turn that thing into like one point
five million dollars. So you got a lot in the line.

(53:07):
Nerves are high. He's the boss. Everyone answers to him.
You know, you get your you have that first cup
of coffee, your stomach starts rumbling, maybe throwing a little zenny,
and all of a sudden, you just blow up that
bathroom and the super Dome. I've have I ever been inside.
I don't know if I've ever been to a game there.
Maybe I've been in New Orleans a couple of times.

(53:28):
I don't know if I ever went for work when
I was with the Eagles. But it's it's obviously an
old building. Uh. You clog that toilet and all of
a sudden, you think this ain't gonna be my day. Uh,
But you know a little nothing, a little plunger can't fix,
and nothing a couple of Derrek car bombs to MVS
can't fix, and all of a sudden you're a winner.
So props on a day that he'll never forget from

(53:51):
clogging a toilet to beating the division leading Atlanta Falcons. Uh,
that's pretty cool. And the other story yesterday just made
me laugh. It's just pretty funny. Is Jerry Jones and
the sunlight that fires through Cowboys Stadium At and T Stadium.

(54:12):
Obviously everyone is just on Jerry's ass now. Jerry brings
upon himself talks after every game. And there was a
visual today right before I hopped on on Monday afternoon
of McCarthy giving his press conference at the Star the
Dallas you know, the super nice NASA level practice facility,

(54:33):
and it's clearly remember a couple of weeks ago when
they were making a big deal about the tours of
the fans. You know, you walk right in. So the
front lobby, which I would imagine has enormous see through
glass doors, is right there, and so is the press room.
So the sunlight is just fireing through those front doors

(54:55):
right into where McCarthy gives his press conference, and they
had I don't know exactly what it is, but they
have something up blocking the sunlight so it doesn't blast
him in the face today, and I'm sure they do
it on every Monday when he talks. But Jerry was
asked about the sunlight and obviously did not like the
question and starts asking like, what do you want me

(55:18):
to do? Rip down the entire stadium? No, Jerry, this
has been a pretty consistent theme here for a long time,
is there are plays for your team, and yesterday was
pretty egregious where the ball it should have been an
easy touchdown and he cannot see because the sunlight is

(55:38):
firing right in his two eyes. So whether it was Jerry, Rice,
Randy Moss, CD, Lamb, me or you, we would have
the same opportunity to catch a ball thrown our way.
And I was reading yesterday on the internet that for
concerts and other events at AT and T they bring
out some sort of window covering. So obviously you're not

(56:02):
gonna rip down the stadium. But this seems like a
pretty easy solution. You have more money than God, get something,
even if it's just an electrical put it above comes
down during the game. Now, you could argue from his standpoint,
and this is what I would imagine the reason he
doesn't want to do it. It does take a little
bit away from the esthetic of the place. It would

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not make it look as good, but is the balance
of yeah, taking away a little bit of the ambiance
of the place. So a guy that you just paid
one hundred million dollars to can catch a touchdown pass,
I would say yes. And I think the Cowboys. I
saw Rex Ryan today go on a rant about how

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Dion Sanders could be the next head coach of the
Dallas Cowboys. If you would have said that two months ago,
I'd have said, you're high on drugs. I do think
it's fair to say that that has to be on
the table now because Mike's gonna get fired. This whole
staff's gonna get fired, and you go, who the hell
is Jerry gonna hire? You would have to think with Dion,

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with Shador and Travis who's essentially his son as well,
going to the draft, that Dion would be very very
interested about coming to the Cowboys. And I think, if
you're Jerry, you are these next two months are going
to be really ugly. Your team's terrible, your team's injured,
you have little to no chance of winning. I mean,

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coward thought they were the worst team in the NFL,
they'd have to be right up there right now. I mean, hell,
they barely beat the Giants a couple of weeks ago
when Dak was healthy, So I think that would give
you life. And I think Dion now, if he wins
out and is in the Big Twelve Championship, I do
think there's no disputing that he's a really, really good coach.

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You know, I had my question marks after last season,
even after the Nebraska game, but I'd bet a decent
amount of money on them on Saturday, and it was
very enjoyable to watch, And honestly, I was like thinking
they were gonna get their ass kick. They're down a
couple scores right away, and they just come storming back.
Him hiring Warren Sapp, their defensive line looks like a

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real college defensive line. I just think, listen, he's kind
of made me a believer. Maybe Dion just has that
secret sauce and it's not like he's afraid to work.
Started at Jackson State, went to Colorado. I mean, Colorado
was a joke. It's been a joke most of my
adult life programs. And he has them three straight. I mean,

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they win three more games, they're gonna be favoring everyone.
He's in the Big Twelve Championship.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
Game.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
If I would have told that to everyone that covers
college football at the beginning of the season, not a
soul would have believed you. Not a soul, even his
biggest supporters that includes like the Shannon Sharps and the
Terrell Owens. So how does he not get interviewed? How
does he not get interviewed? And I do think he
just is under the mold of like the style of

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coach that he is. He's really Dan Campbell, Hardbob Brothers,
like that's who you kind of get. And he knows
and likes Jerry and he kind of feels like bright
lights after this year? Like what else are they gonna do?
I mean, seriously, are they gonna Belichick's gonna take that job?
Doubt it. Now you could argue, what do they do

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about the quarterback situation? I mean, who knows? They don't
win a game the rest of the year. Are they
drafting high enough to get Shador? Now? The problem is
you just signed Dak So now if you hire Dion
like and he wants to draft Shador, just let him
draft Shure. Now, maybe Shador is already off the board.
Draft Travis Hunter. If you're drafting like third draft one
of the two of them and just play with Dak.

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As crazy as it sounds, I do kind of think
it's in play the volume