March 27, 2024 • 40 mins
Colin breaks down why the NFL taking over Christmas Day was an inevitable and the correct decision. Colin believes the Lakers proved that they're true Western Conference contenders after their double OT win over the Bucks. Colin says the Cowboys need to move off of Dak Prescott after this season if they get bounced in the playoffs once again. Plus, Chris Broussard of First Things First explains how the Warriors should rebuild after the season
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
All Right, it is a Wednesday live been Los Angeles.
It's the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you
may be listening or watching. Thanks for making us part
of your day. Jmac. There are a handful of NBA
games during the regular season that matter Bucks Lakers. Last night,
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at least for the Lakers, that was a showing. That
was something.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Anthony Davis Austin reeves total package.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
What e huh.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
But I want to start with this. We all have bosses,
even rich people who own companies like this one. They
have shareholders, they have boards, got to answer to somebody.
I always laugh when people complain about the NFL putting
games on Christmas or Thursday night games. You do get that.
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Roger Goodell, the commissioner of the NFL, has thirty two bosses,
the NFL owners. He is an employee of the NFL.
So the NFL yesterday announced they're gonna play two games
on Christmas and it's on a Wednesday, and all the
complainers come out, Oh, two games on Christmas Day Wednesday.
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In twenty twenty four, there's the headline, what would you
do if you were Roger Goodell? Would you go tell
your bosses? Yeah, it's gonna get huge ratings, but you know,
I just think it's too much. There's a reason Roger
Goodell keeps getting raises because he keeps thumping the NBA
in baseball and pulling away from all the other sports.
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Ask yourself the question, will you watch those games? Don't?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Don't?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
No, no no. Will you watch the games? Yes you will.
The NFL put a playoff game on a streaming service, Peacock,
not even one of the more popular ones. It got
twenty eight million views. Twenty eight million viewers came in
to watch a boring playoff game, almost three times the
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NBA Finals. It wasn't on Netflix, it wasn't on like Hulu,
it wasn't on Amazon Prime is on Peacock got twenty
eight million viewers. The most streamed live event in US history.
You keep watching, and they're gonna keep putting stuff on
streaming services on Wednesdays, Thursdays, Christmas, Thanksgiving because you keep watching.
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Tech companies follow the demand of the audience. Doesn't matter
if it's Apple, if it's Google, they're gonna try stuff.
Nobody liked the Google glasses, so they still making them right.
That's what tech companies do. They keep rolling stuff out
and they follow your demand. And for the record, I
will watch an average NFL game over it's a wonderful
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life any day of the week. There is no proof
we've looked at all the numbers. Athletes don't get hurt
more on short weeks like Thursday. They do not. There
is no elevation of injuries. Wednesday games are going to
be very infrequent. They're only doing it because of Christmas,
and these games get huge ratings. There's two times in
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America everybody's sitting down in front of the TV not working.
Thanksgiving NFL owns it, and now Christmas, NFL saying we're
going to own it. And for the record, I like that.
The NFL, unlike baseball, has always been willing to move,
change and adapt overtime rules have changed multiple times. The
kickoff now this year is going to change, some for
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safety measures, some just to make the sport more interesting.
Kickoffs were a dead They're gonna mess around with punts
now too often they're spare catches. I'm okay with it.
Pat roughing the passer is now going to be you
can go to replay and review roughing the passer because
people come playing. The NFL has always been willing to
do that. So my takeaway in this there are certain
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people out there. Maybe it's a brain function by certain people.
They just want to complain about stuff. But will you
watch the game? Yes, twenty eight million people went to
Peacock to watch a bad playoff game, the most streamed
live event in US history. You know, there's your answer.
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And the NFL, more than every sport, is always understood
it's a TV show and it's a business, and that's
where the income comes from. That's where the revenue comes from.
So if we keep buying their new tech, they're gonna
keep selling their new tech. So I would ideally love
if it was just a Sunday Monday League, But I
gotta be honest, even though those games are bad, on Thursday.
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I'm sitting down there on a Thursday night and I
end up watching most them as long as Carolina is
not in it. And these Wednesday Christmas games. Last year
they did Christmas games, they got massive numbers. They they
bludgeoned the NBA. And I think the NFL also sees
an opportunity where the NBA's made some marketing mistakes. Lebron,
steph KD getting older, they are seizing a business opportunity
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and putting games right on a day that used to
be owned by basketball. So there's not that many regular
season NBA games that you know you have to you
feel like you get a real impact and that make
a real statement. I like watching NBA regular season games,
but I don't think there's that many that truly matter.
But you'll get down to the stretch after the All
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Star break, you get down into these games, you watch
them and you're like, that feels like it. It sort
of resonates. Last night, the Lakers beat Milwaukee at Milwaukee
without Lebron won twenty eight one twenty four, and I
thought it said a lot about the Lakers. Milwaukee is
a team that's got sized, doesn't know as utilize it.
They've been playing really good borderline playoff teams ten of
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their last eleven games. They look tired down the stretch,
But it said a lot about the Lakers. First of all,
Anthony Davis, we said this yesterday, is having an amazing
year and a half stretch. Last night he played fifty
two minutes. He's already top five in the league in minutes.
That's the most he's ever played. He was absolutely dominating
challenged by Jannis. He was twenty eight thirty four points,
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twenty three rebounds, four blocks. Ad was the best player
on the floor and Lebron didn't play, so Ad and
Austin Reeves saw that as a green light to take
over offensively. And for the record, this once again illustrates
unlike the Warriors without staph, the Lakers are actually six
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and four without Lebron and they score more points. Now,
my theory on that is d Lo, D'Angelo, Russell and Lebron.
I don't think Lebron loves his gay d Loo. Last
night in the second half was money. He got shots
that he wouldn't normally get or take with Lebron on
the floor. So when Lebron doesn't play, Austin Reeves knows
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I got to be more aggressive d Lo who I
don't think O was Fitch with Lebron, they almost traded him.
He steps up and ad realizes I'm the leader of
the team. A couple years ago, when U ask AD,
here's the baton, be the guy, he shrank, He disappeared.
He was never healthy. Something has happened with Anthony Davis
over the last year and a half. When Lebron's out,
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he grabs that baton and he takes over and he
is dominating. They were down nineteen late in the fourth
quarter and came roaring back no Lebron. So they play
a different style without Lebron. And if you look right
now at the Western Conference standings, the way they do
this in the NBA with a play in game, seven
through ten will play in playoff and now only two
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will survive. And right now I would take the Lakers
over Sacramento Phoenix, or the Warriors or an improving Houston. Again,
Milwaukee looked tired. Giannis was two for seven in clutch,
missed two key free throws. They've had a really tough stretch.
I've got my issues with Milwaukee, but they're gonna win
a playoff series. They'll be fine. They're not Boston, but
they're fine. This game said a lot about the Lakers.
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They can play without Lebron. DeAngelo Russell continues in the
last since December to be a really consistent offensive player
in some clutch spots. This is also a team that
utilizes their size. The Lakers are not going to run
up and down the floor. You can run, you know.
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That's why they're probably not a great matchup if the
Celtics were at full strength. You know, Oklahoma City runs
well young teams. Lakers don't really do that. They utilize
their size. Milwaukee takes a lot of jumpers for their size.
The Lakers free throw differential the last two years is
plus nine hundred and eleven, so they pound ball low.
They score in the paint, They don't take or make
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a ton of threes. What they do well is experience.
OKAC doesn't have any size, Golden State doesn't have any.
So the Lakers roared back without Lebron on the road
down big. Their size, their experience, and the new and
improved ad over the last year and a half were
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on display. This game felt like it was the biggest
Lakers win of the season and as a testament what
they can do, not at full strength, They've got enough tools.
Not at full strength, they can go up against what
the number two seed in the East, come back from
nineteen down late and win. Here's Austin and Ad after.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
It was one of those moments that you can either
you know, flip the page to tomorrow get ready for
that game, or you can, you know, go out and
compete one hundred and ten percent and give your an opportunity.
Or this is the stuff you dream about as a kid,
being on the road with your guys, you know, battling
out of an amazing team and having opportunities to make
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big shots.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
That twenty point lead in his league now is there's nothing.
Beau's a way to offense is right now in the
league so high power that you can wipe the league
away pretty fast. So I say it was fine, Yeah,
we line up and do it all again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
My takeaway after this game is somebody get Anthony Davis
and IV because they play Memphis tonight. It is another
must win game for the Lakers. That was impressive, and
again a year and a half ago, two years ago,
Lebron was begging for Ad to take over the team
and he just wouldn't do it. And something has happened.
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I don't know what it is. Is he taking care
of his body? Did Lebron have multiple will sit downs?
But Ad last night is on Knights like last night,
best defensive player in the league, doesn't get hurt much anymore,
playing a ton of minutes and absolutely is relishing and
embracing the leadership role. Get me the ball on Bullfins.
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Totally dominating performance against Yannis so j Mack. That was
something that was an impressive w in a wildly entertaining game.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yeah, Ad was tremendous.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Austin Reeves triple double, game winning three this game maybe
of his career.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
I mean, listen you.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I know people are like, hey, can we get Donovan
Mitchell in the offseason? Can we get this guy? I'm
telling you, I'm not ready to move off Austin Reeves. Man,
he is really fun to watch. Colin that kid. Lakers
fans love this guy.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
And they create contact. You know, everybody's always like, why
do the Lakers shoot so many free throws? Because they
don't shoot a lot of threes. So Austin Reeves Ad
Lebron initiate a ton of contact. So teams that settled
for three's milwalk. He's big, but shoots a lot of threes.
Lakers are huge, they don't so their free throw advance
in the end. Last night, I think they were like
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fifteen for fifteen late in the game in free throw.
So the Lakers get to the line. Not all Laker
teams get to the line. You know, when the Warriors
were dominating this league and doing small ball, they weren't
getting to the line as much because it was very
perimeter dominated. This Laker team can't win that way. They
have to pound the ball. And it's not like they
they always shoot well from the free throw line. They
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don't necessarily rebound as well for their size, but offensively,
they create contact, they hit their free throws, they get
to the line, and it's it's a pretty clear advantage.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
By the way.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Lakers will probably be playing on Christmas Day again this year,
like every year.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
I'm just curious. Do you have two televisions in your house?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
You do.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Do you have remote controls for the TVs?
Speaker 7 (12:48):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Do they work?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Okay, so it's not an issue. Christmas Day.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
You can watch it all NFL.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
And NBA, R well, also, I have Fubo, so it's this idy.
People like to grumble but you don't have an iPad.
I mean, do you have an iPhone? Fubo's twenty bucks
a month. I'm watching. I'm on a plane watching March
Madness games, flying home on site.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
It's not like there aren't a million commercials during all
sporting events.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
I mean, NCAA tournament's kind of brutal.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
It feels like there's a tournament every two minutes, commercial
every two minutes. Yeah, I gotta watch another game on
my phone.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Like I have a remote like some you know. Listen,
will you watch Christmas Day NFL game. They're gonna put
Josh Allen on one of those games. They may not
put the Chiefs, but they'll put like Lamar, Josh Allen,
Joe Burrow, Matt Stafford. You will watch them.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Wasn't it Aaron Rodgers versus the Dolphins Last Last or no, sorry,
Jordan Love versus the Dolphins?
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Somebody versus Miami was a great game.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
And two A vomited all over himself and I want
some money, and you know that's all the Christmas.
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Speaker 1 (13:55):
So, when is a take not a hot take? Even
though it sort of sounds like it's luke warm and
boiling here, it is. I would move off Dak Prescott
after this next season. The Packers moved off Aaron Rodgers,
you can move off Dak Prescott. They'll take a cap
hit in twenty twenty five. Teams have cap hits all
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the time. You hit on four or five draft picks,
you get around it pretty quickly. I mean, look what
Denver just did with Russell Wilson. You figure it out.
You draft a quarterback second, third round, pops boom, You're fine.
Dak Prescott himself was a fourth round pick. There is
one thing that guarantees you will never win a super
Bowl in modern day football, that you have a good
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quarterback and he's paid like a great one. Dallas is
not a viable super Bowl team either was Tennessee with
Ryan Tannehill, who was a good quarterback paid like a
great one. Minnesota just made this decision to move off
Kirk Cousins, who is absolutely Dak statistically, and so Jerry
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Joe owns to his credit, is not going to sign
him early, is going to let it play out. And
my takeaway is I would draft a quarterback somewhere this year,
second third, fourth round. If Michael Penix falls, I'd grab him.
This is not a shot at Dak Prescott. The Rams
moved off Jared Goff because he was a pretty good
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quarterback being paid a ton of money, and he'd been
to a Super Bowl. He throws a much nicer ball
than Dak. He was a number one pick. Look around
the league. You can't win a Super Bowl if you're
pretty good at quarterback and really expensive. Breeze in Denver,
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Manning Brady Maholmes now either taking pay cutch or constantly
reworking their deal to be team friendly. Dak was a
steal his first couple of years in the league. He's
been a little bit, a little bit of a lead
way in the last couple They couldn't make any moves
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during this free agency period and they had needs. Jerry
Jones at the league meetings acknowledging they're not going to
sign Dak right now. They're going to let it play out.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
We are where we are, we have our contract. We're
locked and loaded. For this year, and we can see
as we move along how we are thinking. We inclusive
of everybody, us Dad, and we'll see what we do.
I don't have anything to report today.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, I mean Dak is a two to five playoff quarterback,
and in seven playoff games he's had one great one
against the eight and nine Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He has
made a living off awful teams, of which Washington of
the Giants, for most of his career, have both been awful.
He is forty eight and twelve against teams under five hundred,
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and again he's had two bad ones in his division.
He is way below five hundred against winning teams. So
that's the difference between the Mahomes and Allen A Lamar,
a Brady, A Manning, a Breeze, the great ones. Can
you beat the good teams? Good quarterbacks beat bad ones.
If you look at Dak's career numbers regular season in playoffs,
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it is very clear when he faces top competition he
is me d Oker. You may take a cap hit
in twenty twenty five moving off him. This isn't anti Dak.
I think he fits like Kirk Cousins fits in Atlanta.
I think Dak in New England. An adult in the
room is a really good move. I think there's an
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argument to be made New England trades there pick down
solves a lot of their offensive speed limitations and then
goes and gets Dak. Next year is they'll have another
top pick in the top five. But the idea that
Dallas owes him or Dallas Dak's been overpaid if you're
paying quarterbacks based on January and February, Dak was a
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steel early he is now. I mean, if you paid
for a pretty good house but you paid a great price,
you'd feel ripped off. If you paid for a pretty
good car but you paid a more expensive price, you
wouldn't feel like you're getting value. You start looking at
Dak's playoff performances and records against good teams, You're not
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getting great value anymore.
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Speaker 1 (18:33):
I was thinking about this. So we had Mark Few
on the show yesterday and he's been to nine straight
Sweet sixteens, and there's this real pushback. He plays Purdue
this week. Gonzaga plays Purdue. I think produce the better
team and they played earlier in Maui Purdue one, and
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Purdue's got Zaki. He the seven to four kid, and
he's just for a college player, he's a dominant college player.
But there's been a lot of pushback because the people
that cover the NBA and the draft people have said
Zach Eady just does not work in the NBA. That
doesn't mean, like Tim Tebow, you can't be a remarkable
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college player. And here is Mark Few on Zach Edy
in the matchup yesterday.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
You know, twenty five years, I've been ahead coach here,
I've never dealt with a player or an entity like him.
He is a really, really, really good basketball player, and
he does everything well. I mean, he posts the right
way you can score as ball goes in now, very efficient,
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and he shoots free throws really well. And then at
the other end, he's just you know, for a team
that likes to shoot, we're very effective in the paint
and shoot a lot of twos. I mean, it's it's
tough to get shots off in the paint. And so
he's just again an entity that quite frankly, I mean
you just I haven't seen in twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Here's the way I would explain it. In the seventies, eighties, nineties,
and even to some degree in the early two thousands,
college football offenses did not look like the NFL. I mean,
you go back to Nebraska in the seventies and eighties
and Tom Osborne. They were doing single receiver sets, like
one receiver out left. And that's why Tommy Fraser a
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quarterback for maybe the best college quarterback I've ever seen
in terms of production, Tommy Fraser. I watched them live
in the National Championship game against Florida. You couldn't stop him.
He didn't get drafted. I don't believe he got drafted.
There were quarterbacks in college that would be great didn't
even get drafted. Today, college football offenses look a lot
like NFL offenses, So if you put up big numbers,
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you're going to get drafted. But college basketball in the
NBA don't look anything like each other. First of all,
if you're any good, you either don't go to college
or you stay there for a few weeks, a few months,
a semester, and then you're gone. But the NBA is
about speed and athleticism and spacing and threes. It is
managed by coaches. College basketball is dominated by coaches. It's plotting,
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its half court sets. It's very much a coach's game.
Zach Edy is great in that environment. It's like Tim Tebow.
He's great in an environment where he plays with superior talent.
He can do lollipop throws over college DB's and hit
on his great receiving crew at Florida. But the windows
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closed in the NFL and he didn't have the mechanics
or the arm strength to get those balls, squeeze those
balls in there. Zach Edie, to me, probably gets drafted
late second round, but he's more of a college player.
He is a back to the basket center, and the
NBA has bailed on that for about eight to ten years.
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It is a player's lead league, spacing, speed, athleticism, up
and down the floor. I'm not sure latterly who Zach
Edie could defend. I just people are getting worked up
like they're deeply discouraged. But my entire life, I've watched
great college football players just not work. They're part of
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a system for years and years. You know, byu Ty
Dettner would put up profound numbers and feel a little
overwhelmed in the NFL. Now Steve Young work, Jim McMahon
had worked out of BYU. But a lot of times
you'll get these very collegiate looking offenses in college basketball
or football. They just don't work at the pro level.
It's not a knock on the kid, you know, he
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looks like a backup in the NBA. To me, he
can swat a few shots. I mean, the NBA is
getting bigger. There is no question the small ball era
was overrated. It was basically the Warriors and everybody else.
Now the NBA over the last four or five years
has really pivoted to size. So there may be a
spot for him, But this is explainable and college basketball
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looked more similar twenty years ago when Patrick Ewing would
stay in college basketball for three or four years. Well,
Patrick Ewing as a college player was better than half
the NBA centers his junior year at college. Same with
Tim Duncan, Christian Latner, Shack. You'd stay in college so
you would watch a college basketball game in nineteen eighty
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five and they couldn't beat an NBA team, but they'd
have four NBA guys on the floor that would all
go into the Association and within a year or two
were productive. That's just not the way it is. Even
the best college players now they go into the NBA
and they make almost no impact, almost none right out
of the gate.
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Speaker 1 (24:23):
So the Chargers, Jim Harbaugh his willingness to embrace his
personality and put it out there. When he's drinking a
big glass of milk with a steak as always something
I'm fond of, he really leans into Jim Harbaugh and
he turns teams around immediately. It's very Bill Parcells. It's
not that the team gets better. They get better in camp,
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better in preseason, and better immediately. And Harbaugh's at the
league meetings. He's been living out of an RV as
the Chargers build a new facility, and he talked about it.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
It's been great, you know, I mean be and myself,
you know, like I always wanted to do that. It
worked out great.
Speaker 9 (25:04):
I'm one hundred feet from Greg Roman.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
He's got a better art Zero's got a really really
good RV.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
In the RV world. Well, I'm not as fancy. I'm
not as fancy. You know, my my Thord motor coach.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
You know, it hits me just right.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
So Harbaugh says, he goes into his motor coach, he
goes to the back and he sits, and it gives
him time to think.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
And that's why I you know, I that's why I
think he has come up. I can see Harbaugh laying down,
arms crossed, thinking about how do I get more picks?
Right now? The Chargers have nine. They'd love to get
about eleven or twelve because they've got some real needs
like center, another corner, two receivers, a tight end. They
want as many picks as they can get, and that's
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why he keeps saying, oh JJ McCarthy is unbelievable. He
wants all these teams moving up and taking core and
the Chargers have the number five pick. So he is
the modern day Parcels where it it. He just makes
teams better very quickly. It's not play calling, which has
always been overrated. It's culture. It's not scheme. It's toughness.
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People forget how bad the forty nine ers were. It
was one of their longest streaks of ineptitude. They had
not made the playoffs in eight years. They'd not had
a winning season in eight years. Harbaugh got there immediately
thirteen and three and in the NFC Championship. That is
one of the great turnarounds in the history of the league.
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When he went to Michigan, Michigan was a mess. They
were five and seven and inept offensively. They lost the
previous year thirty one nothing to Notre Dame. They couldn't
score a point against Notre Dame. And at that time,
I don't believe Notre Dame was great. Good, not great.
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The next year they were ten three at Michigan. I
went to his first game that was against Utah. But
a lot of teams in the NFL. This is Dallas
right now, and it's Minnesota. That's why they moved off
Kirk Cousins. A lot of teams in the NFL get stuck,
and he never does. Harbaugh doesn't really have gears. He's
in perpetual motion. He starts hot and keeps going. People
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do have no idea how bad Stanford was when he
got there. They were the worst college football team Division one.
They were awful, awful San Francisco, awful, Michigan in net
for Michigan to go five and seven and get blown
out repeatedly, and at that time a very average Big ten.
Michigan was bad ten and three the next year. So
it's a little Steve Jobs. It's not that Steve Jobs
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doesn't immediately innovate, but there are no gears with Steve Jobs.
It's just ascension. It's just keep moving up. And I
think it's pretty remarkable what he's done. I think Harbaugh's
got a plan. It's never been about play calling in scheme.
It's about culture and toughness and resilient and he's got
it going in motion. You know the other thing about
Harbaugh is that he is such a unique personality that
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when people are different or unique, remember with that hard
backslap to Jim Schwartz. I don't think Jim's quite that anymore.
But I can remember talking to people at Ohio State
when Harbaugh got there, and he couldn't beat Michigan State.
At Ohio State, just like Brian Kelly initially at Notre
Dame could win, but he couldn't beat the Bamas or
George's or even be competitive. I think it takes a
long time in northern climates in college football to rebuild
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a program. It's easier in warm weather. There's more Division
one athletes, you can train outside year round. I mean Florida, Georgia, Texas, California.
It's just a conveyor belt of speed and great athletes.
You don't have as many in northern climates.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
So it took.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Harbaugh a while to get it done. But I think
the Chargers are If they can trade down and get
up to eleven or twelve picks, I think they'll be
great next year. They got to get a center, a receiver,
a tight end, an interior defensive lineman, and nobody knows
these college kids for the next couple of years. Quite
like Harbossel, I don't think. I don't consider it to rebuild.
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If you have your quarterback, a left tackle, and two
pass rushers, it is not a rebuild because those are
four of the top five things you need. They got
the quarterback, the left tackle, and two edge rushers. They
could use another corner, they need a center, but a
lot of the stuff they have. They now got a
great coach, a great quarterback, great left tackle, excellent pass rushers.
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You can find receivers and tight ends in this league.
You can find them. Patriots had a twenty year dynasty,
had one world class receiver one the Chiefs moved off
Tyreek Hill. You can find receivers in this league. You
get about fifteen a year out of college that make
immediate impacts. Go look at the Houston Texans last year
getting mid round wide receivers come in ready to play.
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Those kids are now playing at seven on seven camps
when they're fourteen, fifteen, sixteen. College receivers come in much
more polished and ready to play than twenty years ago.
Chargers ten win team up or down on that, I
think that's about ten and seven. Half to ten is
where I would bet the over on nine and a half.
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I think they're a ten and seventeen. I think the
Raiders and the Broncos are just not ready to compete
at that level yet. I just don't think they have
the personnel of the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
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Speaker 1 (30:22):
Well, I've been talking about this today. Two years ago,
I would have moved off Anthony Davis and I don't know,
maybe he started drinking green smoothies, more sit ups. I
don't know what it is. But for the last year
and a half he's been the best defensive big in
the league. Last night may have been one of his
great games ever. Fifty two minutes. He's already now top
five in minutes, and I do believe he is the
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most consistently talented player on the Lakers, not Lebron James.
Chris Brussard joins us live Drew about two years ago.
Three years ago, they tried to hand him the baton
and he came into camp out of shape and for
about a year as done with him. Something's happened, But
they're sixtion four without Lebron Dlo actually gets I think
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fits better with Ad than with Lebron. To me, it
feels like AD's team on most nights, does it?
Speaker 4 (31:13):
To you?
Speaker 10 (31:15):
Ad just doesn't really have the personality to take over
the team. You know, he's got the ability, as you said,
I mean last night he's playing on the floor with Giannis.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
And AD was the best player.
Speaker 10 (31:27):
Yes, I mean they have seven offensive rebounds against Milwaukee.
They're a great team, obviously, and they're huge, and he
still was dominated on the backboards obviously, So I just
don't think night in night out though, Ad has that
personality to take over the team like that. But to
the point you were making Colin about d Low and
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maybe others fitting better around Ad than Lebron, here's what
it is. I think that these players, because of how
great Lebron is and who he is in the league,
his stature, I think there's a tendency to defer to
him when he's on the court, when he's playing, there's
a tendency to defer a little too much or look
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a little too much for him, and then you don't
play as well. What's turned D'Angelo Russell around over the
second half of the season was him finally saying in
Ad and Lebron pushing him. Look, I'm just gonna play
my game. I'm not gonna worry about Oh, Lebron's the
first option, AD, second option, I'm third or fourth. I'm
just going to be me and be aggressive.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
And now all of a.
Speaker 10 (32:30):
Sudden, he's playing the best basketball in years that he's played,
maybe of his career. And I think you saw that
in Austin Reeves last night, who was great. And so
I think they when Lebron's there, they just they can
play five player basketball like they can play the type
of offense where everybody's getting touches, everybody has the freedom
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to create. And obviously Lebron's gonna do his thing. He's
gonna get you twenty five points regardless. So you don't
have to always run stuff for him, run stuff through him.
Let these other guys you know, do their thing too,
and that makes you more dangerous as a team.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
So the Warriors won last night. Miami rested some of
their stars. I thought about a month ago, I thought
they're really bridging the gap old guys, new guys, but
they're again inconsistent. I don't I mean, I don't know
what you do. I think they're gonna move off Klay
Thompson probably, even though he's had some really good nights
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off the bench last night, starting lineup? Where are you
on the Warriors going forward? Do you They don't match
up with denver So and I don't even know if
they match up with the Lakers size. They're not gonna
beat Boston. They're not a championship team. Are you in
the blow up phase? What do you do with them
going forward?
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (33:46):
I mean people are reluctant, and I get it. I
guess we've always been that way. When a superstar, top
ten fifteen player of all time is still around, people
are reluctant to say it's over.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Well, I'm not, it's over. The dynasty is done, all right.
Speaker 10 (34:04):
I mean, they're not gonna beat the Lakers if they
meet the Lakers and the play because the Lakers size
does give them problems.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
And I don't think.
Speaker 10 (34:11):
Look, could they spoil a better team's you know, or
a team that thinks it's got a nice postseason running it?
Sure they could upset somebody, but they have no chance.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Of winning the West.
Speaker 10 (34:23):
I don't even think they make a deep playoff round run.
I don't think they make it to the second round.
If that so it's over. I think they need this offseason.
They gotta move off Chris Paul. They got to move
off Clay. Look, he's a legendary, he's gonna be a
Hall of Famer's one of their best players ever. But
we've seen teams that keep a player around just because
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of what he's done.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
It doesn't end up well.
Speaker 10 (34:48):
And so I think they gotta if they want to
have a chance to try to rebuild this thing on
the fly around Steph, they're gonna have to make those
two tough decisions.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Clay obviously much tough CB.
Speaker 10 (35:00):
Three, and then I think you got Stephen kaminga as
kind of your guys going forward, and you just try
to build around them. So but yeah, the dynasty as
we knew it is dead period.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
So I gave Milwaukee a little bit of a pass
last night. First of all, they blew a big lead.
That is the NBA in twenty twenty four at fifteen
point eighteen point leads me nothing. Too many good players,
too many good shooters. The second thing is they've been
on a stretch here for about two and a half
three weeks. They're playing good teams, they look tighed down
the stretch. They couldn't get stops. But I do think
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if they face Boston and Boston just shreds them, and
I think Boston matches up very well with Milwaukee. I
do think Dame was a bit of a hail Mary.
My takeaway is Milwaukee either has to get to the
conference finals and give Boston a real battle or if
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they get vanquished, if they get run over by Boston,
I think Giannis, if you listen to his language the
last two years, he's been westernized, he wants to win.
Speaker 8 (36:09):
Now.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
I mean, by the way, I'm not knocking it, but
a lot of times international players come in, they're loyal,
they play nice. He's over that. He'll fire a coach. Now,
what happens if Milwaukee gets rolled by Boston, and I
think they would, where does Giannis go?
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Does he stay? Is he satisfied? Well? I think, Look,
they're a few things.
Speaker 10 (36:31):
Number one, they got to get to the conference finals,
and even that's not good enough.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Let's face it.
Speaker 10 (36:36):
When they made that trade for Dame, it was championship
or bust okay, and that's what it should be for
this team. They gotta win a championship, not just get there.
They've won one already without Dame, so that is the charge.
But looking at the way they've played this season, obviously
they've had a coaching change. They don't have the athleticism
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and the depth that you might want them to have.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
At the very least, they have to get to the
conference finals.
Speaker 10 (37:03):
And as you said, if they play Boston, well, I
actually think it would be a good series. I'm picking
Boston to win the East, but I think my Milwaukee
would give them some challenges in that conference final. If
they do that, then you say, Okay, we got our
building blocks of Giannis and Dame, let's just add around him.
They needs some wing, athleticism, defenders, things like that. But
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I think they would go in the next year like
this is it. This is the one year we've got
to get it done, because they can make excuses Doc.
You know, Doc will have some excuses, you know, if
he just came in midway through the season and all that.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
As far as Yiannis, I think he would. I think
he'd be.
Speaker 10 (37:41):
There next year, Colin, if they don't win it this year.
But I do agree with you, and here's I agree.
That's a great comment you make about him.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Being a bit.
Speaker 10 (37:49):
Westernized, right, But also Janni's is the caliber of player
where he's going to really be criticized and his stature
will be taken down if he does not win.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
They're only a handful of players like that, all right.
Speaker 10 (38:07):
Lebron was in that class, Kevin Durant was in that class,
and we saw.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
What they did.
Speaker 10 (38:12):
They moved around so they could win. Dame is not
really in that class. Most smaller guards than players aren't
in that class. But if Yannis doesn't win another championship,
people are gonna really be taking knocks at his legacy.
And he understands that, as you say it, being westernized now,
So I do think he'll start He'll be looking around
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and I don't think it would happen next year. But
if they don't win it this year or next year, didn't, yeah,
I think he definitely could be more on the move.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
So zach Edie seven to four good closer, very back
to the basket. It works at purduing college basketball, but
college basketball fans get worked up if you suggest that dude,
he can't play in the league. He doesn't move great laterally,
and the NBA is a spacing speed league. When you've
talked to anybody about Zach Edy. Is he just not
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an NBA player at all?
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Look, I think he's on a roster.
Speaker 10 (39:08):
You know, some people are saying late first round or
mid first round pick. I think late first round at best,
maybe a second round pick.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
I think he'll be on a roster.
Speaker 10 (39:19):
But you said it, he can't move well enough in
today's NBA.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
It's just as simple as that.
Speaker 10 (39:24):
He will get exploited to the if degree on defense.
And I know he'll block some shots when he's got
a chance, get a few rebounds. But teams, you know,
if you got a big that can shoot, I mean,
teams are just gonna have a field day with him defensively.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
So that's the problem.
Speaker 10 (39:42):
So I don't think he has any type of NBA
career of substance. But I do think he gets on
a roster and stays in the league for a little while.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Yeah, he's such a dominant college player. It's just but
I was talking about it earlier. T Bow was a
dominant college player in football. Sometimes sports are different, different,
different stylistically, it doesn't work. Chris brewce SORRD. He's on
after us First things, first cond Sinding Brew
Speaker 4 (40:07):
You too, Colin
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
All Right, it is a Wednesday live been Los Angeles.
It's the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you
may be listening or watching. Thanks for making us part
of your day. Jmac. There are a handful of NBA
games during the regular season that matter Bucks Lakers. Last night,
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at least for the Lakers, that was a showing. That
was something.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Anthony Davis Austin reeves total package.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
What e huh.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
But I want to start with this. We all have bosses,
even rich people who own companies like this one. They
have shareholders, they have boards, got to answer to somebody.
I always laugh when people complain about the NFL putting
games on Christmas or Thursday night games. You do get that.
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Roger Goodell, the commissioner of the NFL, has thirty two bosses,
the NFL owners. He is an employee of the NFL.
So the NFL yesterday announced they're gonna play two games
on Christmas and it's on a Wednesday, and all the
complainers come out, Oh, two games on Christmas Day Wednesday.
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In twenty twenty four, there's the headline, what would you
do if you were Roger Goodell? Would you go tell
your bosses? Yeah, it's gonna get huge ratings, but you know,
I just think it's too much. There's a reason Roger
Goodell keeps getting raises because he keeps thumping the NBA
in baseball and pulling away from all the other sports.
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Ask yourself the question, will you watch those games? Don't?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Don't?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
No, no no. Will you watch the games? Yes you will.
The NFL put a playoff game on a streaming service, Peacock,
not even one of the more popular ones. It got
twenty eight million views. Twenty eight million viewers came in
to watch a boring playoff game, almost three times the
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NBA Finals. It wasn't on Netflix, it wasn't on like Hulu,
it wasn't on Amazon Prime is on Peacock got twenty
eight million viewers. The most streamed live event in US history.
You keep watching, and they're gonna keep putting stuff on
streaming services on Wednesdays, Thursdays, Christmas, Thanksgiving because you keep watching.
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Tech companies follow the demand of the audience. Doesn't matter
if it's Apple, if it's Google, they're gonna try stuff.
Nobody liked the Google glasses, so they still making them right.
That's what tech companies do. They keep rolling stuff out
and they follow your demand. And for the record, I
will watch an average NFL game over it's a wonderful
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life any day of the week. There is no proof
we've looked at all the numbers. Athletes don't get hurt
more on short weeks like Thursday. They do not. There
is no elevation of injuries. Wednesday games are going to
be very infrequent. They're only doing it because of Christmas,
and these games get huge ratings. There's two times in
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America everybody's sitting down in front of the TV not working.
Thanksgiving NFL owns it, and now Christmas, NFL saying we're
going to own it. And for the record, I like that.
The NFL, unlike baseball, has always been willing to move,
change and adapt overtime rules have changed multiple times. The
kickoff now this year is going to change, some for
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safety measures, some just to make the sport more interesting.
Kickoffs were a dead They're gonna mess around with punts
now too often they're spare catches. I'm okay with it.
Pat roughing the passer is now going to be you
can go to replay and review roughing the passer because
people come playing. The NFL has always been willing to
do that. So my takeaway in this there are certain
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people out there. Maybe it's a brain function by certain people.
They just want to complain about stuff. But will you
watch the game? Yes, twenty eight million people went to
Peacock to watch a bad playoff game, the most streamed
live event in US history. You know, there's your answer.
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And the NFL, more than every sport, is always understood
it's a TV show and it's a business, and that's
where the income comes from. That's where the revenue comes from.
So if we keep buying their new tech, they're gonna
keep selling their new tech. So I would ideally love
if it was just a Sunday Monday League, But I
gotta be honest, even though those games are bad, on Thursday.
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I'm sitting down there on a Thursday night and I
end up watching most them as long as Carolina is
not in it. And these Wednesday Christmas games. Last year
they did Christmas games, they got massive numbers. They they
bludgeoned the NBA. And I think the NFL also sees
an opportunity where the NBA's made some marketing mistakes. Lebron,
steph KD getting older, they are seizing a business opportunity
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and putting games right on a day that used to
be owned by basketball. So there's not that many regular
season NBA games that you know you have to you
feel like you get a real impact and that make
a real statement. I like watching NBA regular season games,
but I don't think there's that many that truly matter.
But you'll get down to the stretch after the All
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Star break, you get down into these games, you watch
them and you're like, that feels like it. It sort
of resonates. Last night, the Lakers beat Milwaukee at Milwaukee
without Lebron won twenty eight one twenty four, and I
thought it said a lot about the Lakers. Milwaukee is
a team that's got sized, doesn't know as utilize it.
They've been playing really good borderline playoff teams ten of
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their last eleven games. They look tired down the stretch,
But it said a lot about the Lakers. First of all,
Anthony Davis, we said this yesterday, is having an amazing
year and a half stretch. Last night he played fifty
two minutes. He's already top five in the league in minutes.
That's the most he's ever played. He was absolutely dominating
challenged by Jannis. He was twenty eight thirty four points,
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twenty three rebounds, four blocks. Ad was the best player
on the floor and Lebron didn't play, so Ad and
Austin Reeves saw that as a green light to take
over offensively. And for the record, this once again illustrates
unlike the Warriors without staph, the Lakers are actually six
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and four without Lebron and they score more points. Now,
my theory on that is d Lo, D'Angelo, Russell and Lebron.
I don't think Lebron loves his gay d Loo. Last
night in the second half was money. He got shots
that he wouldn't normally get or take with Lebron on
the floor. So when Lebron doesn't play, Austin Reeves knows
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I got to be more aggressive d Lo who I
don't think O was Fitch with Lebron, they almost traded him.
He steps up and ad realizes I'm the leader of
the team. A couple years ago, when U ask AD,
here's the baton, be the guy, he shrank, He disappeared.
He was never healthy. Something has happened with Anthony Davis
over the last year and a half. When Lebron's out,
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he grabs that baton and he takes over and he
is dominating. They were down nineteen late in the fourth
quarter and came roaring back no Lebron. So they play
a different style without Lebron. And if you look right
now at the Western Conference standings, the way they do
this in the NBA with a play in game, seven
through ten will play in playoff and now only two
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will survive. And right now I would take the Lakers
over Sacramento Phoenix, or the Warriors or an improving Houston. Again,
Milwaukee looked tired. Giannis was two for seven in clutch,
missed two key free throws. They've had a really tough stretch.
I've got my issues with Milwaukee, but they're gonna win
a playoff series. They'll be fine. They're not Boston, but
they're fine. This game said a lot about the Lakers.
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They can play without Lebron. DeAngelo Russell continues in the
last since December to be a really consistent offensive player
in some clutch spots. This is also a team that
utilizes their size. The Lakers are not going to run
up and down the floor. You can run, you know.
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That's why they're probably not a great matchup if the
Celtics were at full strength. You know, Oklahoma City runs
well young teams. Lakers don't really do that. They utilize
their size. Milwaukee takes a lot of jumpers for their size.
The Lakers free throw differential the last two years is
plus nine hundred and eleven, so they pound ball low.
They score in the paint, They don't take or make
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a ton of threes. What they do well is experience.
OKAC doesn't have any size, Golden State doesn't have any.
So the Lakers roared back without Lebron on the road
down big. Their size, their experience, and the new and
improved ad over the last year and a half were
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on display. This game felt like it was the biggest
Lakers win of the season and as a testament what
they can do, not at full strength, They've got enough tools.
Not at full strength, they can go up against what
the number two seed in the East, come back from
nineteen down late and win. Here's Austin and Ad after.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
It was one of those moments that you can either
you know, flip the page to tomorrow get ready for
that game, or you can, you know, go out and
compete one hundred and ten percent and give your an opportunity.
Or this is the stuff you dream about as a kid,
being on the road with your guys, you know, battling
out of an amazing team and having opportunities to make
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big shots.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
That twenty point lead in his league now is there's nothing.
Beau's a way to offense is right now in the
league so high power that you can wipe the league
away pretty fast. So I say it was fine, Yeah,
we line up and do it all again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
My takeaway after this game is somebody get Anthony Davis
and IV because they play Memphis tonight. It is another
must win game for the Lakers. That was impressive, and
again a year and a half ago, two years ago,
Lebron was begging for Ad to take over the team
and he just wouldn't do it. And something has happened.
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I don't know what it is. Is he taking care
of his body? Did Lebron have multiple will sit downs?
But Ad last night is on Knights like last night,
best defensive player in the league, doesn't get hurt much anymore,
playing a ton of minutes and absolutely is relishing and
embracing the leadership role. Get me the ball on Bullfins.
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Totally dominating performance against Yannis so j Mack. That was
something that was an impressive w in a wildly entertaining game.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yeah, Ad was tremendous.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Austin Reeves triple double, game winning three this game maybe
of his career.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
I mean, listen you.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I know people are like, hey, can we get Donovan
Mitchell in the offseason? Can we get this guy? I'm
telling you, I'm not ready to move off Austin Reeves. Man,
he is really fun to watch. Colin that kid. Lakers
fans love this guy.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
And they create contact. You know, everybody's always like, why
do the Lakers shoot so many free throws? Because they
don't shoot a lot of threes. So Austin Reeves Ad
Lebron initiate a ton of contact. So teams that settled
for three's milwalk. He's big, but shoots a lot of threes.
Lakers are huge, they don't so their free throw advance
in the end. Last night, I think they were like
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fifteen for fifteen late in the game in free throw.
So the Lakers get to the line. Not all Laker
teams get to the line. You know, when the Warriors
were dominating this league and doing small ball, they weren't
getting to the line as much because it was very
perimeter dominated. This Laker team can't win that way. They
have to pound the ball. And it's not like they
they always shoot well from the free throw line. They
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don't necessarily rebound as well for their size, but offensively,
they create contact, they hit their free throws, they get
to the line, and it's it's a pretty clear advantage.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
By the way.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Lakers will probably be playing on Christmas Day again this year,
like every year.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
I'm just curious. Do you have two televisions in your house?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
You do.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Do you have remote controls for the TVs?
Speaker 7 (12:48):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Do they work?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Okay, so it's not an issue. Christmas Day.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
You can watch it all NFL.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
And NBA, R well, also, I have Fubo, so it's this idy.
People like to grumble but you don't have an iPad.
I mean, do you have an iPhone? Fubo's twenty bucks
a month. I'm watching. I'm on a plane watching March
Madness games, flying home on site.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
It's not like there aren't a million commercials during all
sporting events.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
I mean, NCAA tournament's kind of brutal.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
It feels like there's a tournament every two minutes, commercial
every two minutes. Yeah, I gotta watch another game on
my phone.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Like I have a remote like some you know. Listen,
will you watch Christmas Day NFL game. They're gonna put
Josh Allen on one of those games. They may not
put the Chiefs, but they'll put like Lamar, Josh Allen,
Joe Burrow, Matt Stafford. You will watch them.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Wasn't it Aaron Rodgers versus the Dolphins Last Last or no, sorry,
Jordan Love versus the Dolphins?
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Somebody versus Miami was a great game.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
And two A vomited all over himself and I want
some money, and you know that's all the Christmas.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
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Speaker 1 (13:55):
So, when is a take not a hot take? Even
though it sort of sounds like it's luke warm and
boiling here, it is. I would move off Dak Prescott
after this next season. The Packers moved off Aaron Rodgers,
you can move off Dak Prescott. They'll take a cap
hit in twenty twenty five. Teams have cap hits all
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the time. You hit on four or five draft picks,
you get around it pretty quickly. I mean, look what
Denver just did with Russell Wilson. You figure it out.
You draft a quarterback second, third round, pops boom, You're fine.
Dak Prescott himself was a fourth round pick. There is
one thing that guarantees you will never win a super
Bowl in modern day football, that you have a good
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quarterback and he's paid like a great one. Dallas is
not a viable super Bowl team either was Tennessee with
Ryan Tannehill, who was a good quarterback paid like a
great one. Minnesota just made this decision to move off
Kirk Cousins, who is absolutely Dak statistically, and so Jerry
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Joe owns to his credit, is not going to sign
him early, is going to let it play out. And
my takeaway is I would draft a quarterback somewhere this year,
second third, fourth round. If Michael Penix falls, I'd grab him.
This is not a shot at Dak Prescott. The Rams
moved off Jared Goff because he was a pretty good
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quarterback being paid a ton of money, and he'd been
to a Super Bowl. He throws a much nicer ball
than Dak. He was a number one pick. Look around
the league. You can't win a Super Bowl if you're
pretty good at quarterback and really expensive. Breeze in Denver,
(15:42):
Manning Brady Maholmes now either taking pay cutch or constantly
reworking their deal to be team friendly. Dak was a
steal his first couple of years in the league. He's
been a little bit, a little bit of a lead
way in the last couple They couldn't make any moves
(16:03):
during this free agency period and they had needs. Jerry
Jones at the league meetings acknowledging they're not going to
sign Dak right now. They're going to let it play out.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
We are where we are, we have our contract. We're
locked and loaded. For this year, and we can see
as we move along how we are thinking. We inclusive
of everybody, us Dad, and we'll see what we do.
I don't have anything to report today.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, I mean Dak is a two to five playoff quarterback,
and in seven playoff games he's had one great one
against the eight and nine Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He has
made a living off awful teams, of which Washington of
the Giants, for most of his career, have both been awful.
He is forty eight and twelve against teams under five hundred,
(16:57):
and again he's had two bad ones in his division.
He is way below five hundred against winning teams. So
that's the difference between the Mahomes and Allen A Lamar,
a Brady, A Manning, a Breeze, the great ones. Can
you beat the good teams? Good quarterbacks beat bad ones.
If you look at Dak's career numbers regular season in playoffs,
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it is very clear when he faces top competition he
is me d Oker. You may take a cap hit
in twenty twenty five moving off him. This isn't anti Dak.
I think he fits like Kirk Cousins fits in Atlanta.
I think Dak in New England. An adult in the
room is a really good move. I think there's an
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argument to be made New England trades there pick down
solves a lot of their offensive speed limitations and then
goes and gets Dak. Next year is they'll have another
top pick in the top five. But the idea that
Dallas owes him or Dallas Dak's been overpaid if you're
paying quarterbacks based on January and February, Dak was a
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steel early he is now. I mean, if you paid
for a pretty good house but you paid a great price,
you'd feel ripped off. If you paid for a pretty
good car but you paid a more expensive price, you
wouldn't feel like you're getting value. You start looking at
Dak's playoff performances and records against good teams, You're not
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getting great value anymore.
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Speaker 1 (18:33):
I was thinking about this. So we had Mark Few
on the show yesterday and he's been to nine straight
Sweet sixteens, and there's this real pushback. He plays Purdue
this week. Gonzaga plays Purdue. I think produce the better
team and they played earlier in Maui Purdue one, and
(18:53):
Purdue's got Zaki. He the seven to four kid, and
he's just for a college player, he's a dominant college player.
But there's been a lot of pushback because the people
that cover the NBA and the draft people have said
Zach Eady just does not work in the NBA. That
doesn't mean, like Tim Tebow, you can't be a remarkable
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college player. And here is Mark Few on Zach Edy
in the matchup yesterday.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
You know, twenty five years, I've been ahead coach here,
I've never dealt with a player or an entity like him.
He is a really, really, really good basketball player, and
he does everything well. I mean, he posts the right
way you can score as ball goes in now, very efficient,
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and he shoots free throws really well. And then at
the other end, he's just you know, for a team
that likes to shoot, we're very effective in the paint
and shoot a lot of twos. I mean, it's it's
tough to get shots off in the paint. And so
he's just again an entity that quite frankly, I mean
you just I haven't seen in twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Here's the way I would explain it. In the seventies, eighties, nineties,
and even to some degree in the early two thousands,
college football offenses did not look like the NFL. I mean,
you go back to Nebraska in the seventies and eighties
and Tom Osborne. They were doing single receiver sets, like
one receiver out left. And that's why Tommy Fraser a
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quarterback for maybe the best college quarterback I've ever seen
in terms of production, Tommy Fraser. I watched them live
in the National Championship game against Florida. You couldn't stop him.
He didn't get drafted. I don't believe he got drafted.
There were quarterbacks in college that would be great didn't
even get drafted. Today, college football offenses look a lot
like NFL offenses, So if you put up big numbers,
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you're going to get drafted. But college basketball in the
NBA don't look anything like each other. First of all,
if you're any good, you either don't go to college
or you stay there for a few weeks, a few months,
a semester, and then you're gone. But the NBA is
about speed and athleticism and spacing and threes. It is
managed by coaches. College basketball is dominated by coaches. It's plotting,
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its half court sets. It's very much a coach's game.
Zach Edy is great in that environment. It's like Tim Tebow.
He's great in an environment where he plays with superior talent.
He can do lollipop throws over college DB's and hit
on his great receiving crew at Florida. But the windows
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closed in the NFL and he didn't have the mechanics
or the arm strength to get those balls, squeeze those
balls in there. Zach Edie, to me, probably gets drafted
late second round, but he's more of a college player.
He is a back to the basket center, and the
NBA has bailed on that for about eight to ten years.
(21:58):
It is a player's lead league, spacing, speed, athleticism, up
and down the floor. I'm not sure latterly who Zach
Edie could defend. I just people are getting worked up
like they're deeply discouraged. But my entire life, I've watched
great college football players just not work. They're part of
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a system for years and years. You know, byu Ty
Dettner would put up profound numbers and feel a little
overwhelmed in the NFL. Now Steve Young work, Jim McMahon
had worked out of BYU. But a lot of times
you'll get these very collegiate looking offenses in college basketball
or football. They just don't work at the pro level.
It's not a knock on the kid, you know, he
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looks like a backup in the NBA. To me, he
can swat a few shots. I mean, the NBA is
getting bigger. There is no question the small ball era
was overrated. It was basically the Warriors and everybody else.
Now the NBA over the last four or five years
has really pivoted to size. So there may be a
spot for him, But this is explainable and college basketball
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looked more similar twenty years ago when Patrick Ewing would
stay in college basketball for three or four years. Well,
Patrick Ewing as a college player was better than half
the NBA centers his junior year at college. Same with
Tim Duncan, Christian Latner, Shack. You'd stay in college so
you would watch a college basketball game in nineteen eighty
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five and they couldn't beat an NBA team, but they'd
have four NBA guys on the floor that would all
go into the Association and within a year or two
were productive. That's just not the way it is. Even
the best college players now they go into the NBA
and they make almost no impact, almost none right out
of the gate.
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Speaker 1 (24:23):
So the Chargers, Jim Harbaugh his willingness to embrace his
personality and put it out there. When he's drinking a
big glass of milk with a steak as always something
I'm fond of, he really leans into Jim Harbaugh and
he turns teams around immediately. It's very Bill Parcells. It's
not that the team gets better. They get better in camp,
(24:43):
better in preseason, and better immediately. And Harbaugh's at the
league meetings. He's been living out of an RV as
the Chargers build a new facility, and he talked about it.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
It's been great, you know, I mean be and myself,
you know, like I always wanted to do that. It
worked out great.
Speaker 9 (25:04):
I'm one hundred feet from Greg Roman.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
He's got a better art Zero's got a really really
good RV.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
In the RV world. Well, I'm not as fancy. I'm
not as fancy. You know, my my Thord motor coach.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
You know, it hits me just right.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
So Harbaugh says, he goes into his motor coach, he
goes to the back and he sits, and it gives
him time to think.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
And that's why I you know, I that's why I
think he has come up. I can see Harbaugh laying down,
arms crossed, thinking about how do I get more picks?
Right now? The Chargers have nine. They'd love to get
about eleven or twelve because they've got some real needs
like center, another corner, two receivers, a tight end. They
want as many picks as they can get, and that's
(25:53):
why he keeps saying, oh JJ McCarthy is unbelievable. He
wants all these teams moving up and taking core and
the Chargers have the number five pick. So he is
the modern day Parcels where it it. He just makes
teams better very quickly. It's not play calling, which has
always been overrated. It's culture. It's not scheme. It's toughness.
(26:16):
People forget how bad the forty nine ers were. It
was one of their longest streaks of ineptitude. They had
not made the playoffs in eight years. They'd not had
a winning season in eight years. Harbaugh got there immediately
thirteen and three and in the NFC Championship. That is
one of the great turnarounds in the history of the league.
(26:37):
When he went to Michigan, Michigan was a mess. They
were five and seven and inept offensively. They lost the
previous year thirty one nothing to Notre Dame. They couldn't
score a point against Notre Dame. And at that time,
I don't believe Notre Dame was great. Good, not great.
(26:58):
The next year they were ten three at Michigan. I
went to his first game that was against Utah. But
a lot of teams in the NFL. This is Dallas
right now, and it's Minnesota. That's why they moved off
Kirk Cousins. A lot of teams in the NFL get stuck,
and he never does. Harbaugh doesn't really have gears. He's
in perpetual motion. He starts hot and keeps going. People
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do have no idea how bad Stanford was when he
got there. They were the worst college football team Division one.
They were awful, awful San Francisco, awful, Michigan in net
for Michigan to go five and seven and get blown
out repeatedly, and at that time a very average Big ten.
Michigan was bad ten and three the next year. So
it's a little Steve Jobs. It's not that Steve Jobs
(27:42):
doesn't immediately innovate, but there are no gears with Steve Jobs.
It's just ascension. It's just keep moving up. And I
think it's pretty remarkable what he's done. I think Harbaugh's
got a plan. It's never been about play calling in scheme.
It's about culture and toughness and resilient and he's got
it going in motion. You know the other thing about
Harbaugh is that he is such a unique personality that
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when people are different or unique, remember with that hard
backslap to Jim Schwartz. I don't think Jim's quite that anymore.
But I can remember talking to people at Ohio State
when Harbaugh got there, and he couldn't beat Michigan State.
At Ohio State, just like Brian Kelly initially at Notre
Dame could win, but he couldn't beat the Bamas or
George's or even be competitive. I think it takes a
long time in northern climates in college football to rebuild
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a program. It's easier in warm weather. There's more Division
one athletes, you can train outside year round. I mean Florida, Georgia, Texas, California.
It's just a conveyor belt of speed and great athletes.
You don't have as many in northern climates.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
So it took.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Harbaugh a while to get it done. But I think
the Chargers are If they can trade down and get
up to eleven or twelve picks, I think they'll be
great next year. They got to get a center, a receiver,
a tight end, an interior defensive lineman, and nobody knows
these college kids for the next couple of years. Quite
like Harbossel, I don't think. I don't consider it to rebuild.
(29:04):
If you have your quarterback, a left tackle, and two
pass rushers, it is not a rebuild because those are
four of the top five things you need. They got
the quarterback, the left tackle, and two edge rushers. They
could use another corner, they need a center, but a
lot of the stuff they have. They now got a
great coach, a great quarterback, great left tackle, excellent pass rushers.
(29:26):
You can find receivers and tight ends in this league.
You can find them. Patriots had a twenty year dynasty,
had one world class receiver one the Chiefs moved off
Tyreek Hill. You can find receivers in this league. You
get about fifteen a year out of college that make
immediate impacts. Go look at the Houston Texans last year
getting mid round wide receivers come in ready to play.
(29:48):
Those kids are now playing at seven on seven camps
when they're fourteen, fifteen, sixteen. College receivers come in much
more polished and ready to play than twenty years ago.
Chargers ten win team up or down on that, I
think that's about ten and seven. Half to ten is
where I would bet the over on nine and a half.
(30:09):
I think they're a ten and seventeen. I think the
Raiders and the Broncos are just not ready to compete
at that level yet. I just don't think they have
the personnel of the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
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Speaker 1 (30:22):
Well, I've been talking about this today. Two years ago,
I would have moved off Anthony Davis and I don't know,
maybe he started drinking green smoothies, more sit ups. I
don't know what it is. But for the last year
and a half he's been the best defensive big in
the league. Last night may have been one of his
great games ever. Fifty two minutes. He's already now top
five in minutes, and I do believe he is the
(30:43):
most consistently talented player on the Lakers, not Lebron James.
Chris Brussard joins us live Drew about two years ago.
Three years ago, they tried to hand him the baton
and he came into camp out of shape and for
about a year as done with him. Something's happened, But
they're sixtion four without Lebron Dlo actually gets I think
(31:06):
fits better with Ad than with Lebron. To me, it
feels like AD's team on most nights, does it?
Speaker 4 (31:13):
To you?
Speaker 10 (31:15):
Ad just doesn't really have the personality to take over
the team. You know, he's got the ability, as you said,
I mean last night he's playing on the floor with Giannis.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
And AD was the best player.
Speaker 10 (31:27):
Yes, I mean they have seven offensive rebounds against Milwaukee.
They're a great team, obviously, and they're huge, and he
still was dominated on the backboards obviously, So I just
don't think night in night out though, Ad has that
personality to take over the team like that. But to
the point you were making Colin about d Low and
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maybe others fitting better around Ad than Lebron, here's what
it is. I think that these players, because of how
great Lebron is and who he is in the league,
his stature, I think there's a tendency to defer to
him when he's on the court, when he's playing, there's
a tendency to defer a little too much or look
(32:09):
a little too much for him, and then you don't
play as well. What's turned D'Angelo Russell around over the
second half of the season was him finally saying in
Ad and Lebron pushing him. Look, I'm just gonna play
my game. I'm not gonna worry about Oh, Lebron's the
first option, AD, second option, I'm third or fourth. I'm
just going to be me and be aggressive.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
And now all of a.
Speaker 10 (32:30):
Sudden, he's playing the best basketball in years that he's played,
maybe of his career. And I think you saw that
in Austin Reeves last night, who was great. And so
I think they when Lebron's there, they just they can
play five player basketball like they can play the type
of offense where everybody's getting touches, everybody has the freedom
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to create. And obviously Lebron's gonna do his thing. He's
gonna get you twenty five points regardless. So you don't
have to always run stuff for him, run stuff through him.
Let these other guys you know, do their thing too,
and that makes you more dangerous as a team.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
So the Warriors won last night. Miami rested some of
their stars. I thought about a month ago, I thought
they're really bridging the gap old guys, new guys, but
they're again inconsistent. I don't I mean, I don't know
what you do. I think they're gonna move off Klay
Thompson probably, even though he's had some really good nights
(33:27):
off the bench last night, starting lineup? Where are you
on the Warriors going forward? Do you They don't match
up with denver So and I don't even know if
they match up with the Lakers size. They're not gonna
beat Boston. They're not a championship team. Are you in
the blow up phase? What do you do with them
going forward?
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (33:46):
I mean people are reluctant, and I get it. I
guess we've always been that way. When a superstar, top
ten fifteen player of all time is still around, people
are reluctant to say it's over.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Well, I'm not, it's over. The dynasty is done, all right.
Speaker 10 (34:04):
I mean, they're not gonna beat the Lakers if they
meet the Lakers and the play because the Lakers size
does give them problems.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
And I don't think.
Speaker 10 (34:11):
Look, could they spoil a better team's you know, or
a team that thinks it's got a nice postseason running it?
Sure they could upset somebody, but they have no chance.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Of winning the West.
Speaker 10 (34:23):
I don't even think they make a deep playoff round run.
I don't think they make it to the second round.
If that so it's over. I think they need this offseason.
They gotta move off Chris Paul. They got to move
off Clay. Look, he's a legendary, he's gonna be a
Hall of Famer's one of their best players ever. But
we've seen teams that keep a player around just because
(34:45):
of what he's done.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
It doesn't end up well.
Speaker 10 (34:48):
And so I think they gotta if they want to
have a chance to try to rebuild this thing on
the fly around Steph, they're gonna have to make those
two tough decisions.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Clay obviously much tough CB.
Speaker 10 (35:00):
Three, and then I think you got Stephen kaminga as
kind of your guys going forward, and you just try
to build around them. So but yeah, the dynasty as
we knew it is dead period.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
So I gave Milwaukee a little bit of a pass
last night. First of all, they blew a big lead.
That is the NBA in twenty twenty four at fifteen
point eighteen point leads me nothing. Too many good players,
too many good shooters. The second thing is they've been
on a stretch here for about two and a half
three weeks. They're playing good teams, they look tighed down
the stretch. They couldn't get stops. But I do think
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if they face Boston and Boston just shreds them, and
I think Boston matches up very well with Milwaukee. I
do think Dame was a bit of a hail Mary.
My takeaway is Milwaukee either has to get to the
conference finals and give Boston a real battle or if
(35:58):
they get vanquished, if they get run over by Boston,
I think Giannis, if you listen to his language the
last two years, he's been westernized, he wants to win.
Speaker 8 (36:09):
Now.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
I mean, by the way, I'm not knocking it, but
a lot of times international players come in, they're loyal,
they play nice. He's over that. He'll fire a coach. Now,
what happens if Milwaukee gets rolled by Boston, and I
think they would, where does Giannis go?
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Does he stay? Is he satisfied? Well? I think, Look,
they're a few things.
Speaker 10 (36:31):
Number one, they got to get to the conference finals,
and even that's not good enough.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Let's face it.
Speaker 10 (36:36):
When they made that trade for Dame, it was championship
or bust okay, and that's what it should be for
this team. They gotta win a championship, not just get there.
They've won one already without Dame, so that is the charge.
But looking at the way they've played this season, obviously
they've had a coaching change. They don't have the athleticism
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and the depth that you might want them to have.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
At the very least, they have to get to the
conference finals.
Speaker 10 (37:03):
And as you said, if they play Boston, well, I
actually think it would be a good series. I'm picking
Boston to win the East, but I think my Milwaukee
would give them some challenges in that conference final. If
they do that, then you say, Okay, we got our
building blocks of Giannis and Dame, let's just add around him.
They needs some wing, athleticism, defenders, things like that. But
(37:25):
I think they would go in the next year like
this is it. This is the one year we've got
to get it done, because they can make excuses Doc.
You know, Doc will have some excuses, you know, if
he just came in midway through the season and all that.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
As far as Yiannis, I think he would. I think
he'd be.
Speaker 10 (37:41):
There next year, Colin, if they don't win it this year.
But I do agree with you, and here's I agree.
That's a great comment you make about him.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Being a bit.
Speaker 10 (37:49):
Westernized, right, But also Janni's is the caliber of player
where he's going to really be criticized and his stature
will be taken down if he does not win.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
They're only a handful of players like that, all right.
Speaker 10 (38:07):
Lebron was in that class, Kevin Durant was in that class,
and we saw.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
What they did.
Speaker 10 (38:12):
They moved around so they could win. Dame is not
really in that class. Most smaller guards than players aren't
in that class. But if Yannis doesn't win another championship,
people are gonna really be taking knocks at his legacy.
And he understands that, as you say it, being westernized now,
So I do think he'll start He'll be looking around
(38:34):
and I don't think it would happen next year. But
if they don't win it this year or next year, didn't, yeah,
I think he definitely could be more on the move.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
So zach Edie seven to four good closer, very back
to the basket. It works at purduing college basketball, but
college basketball fans get worked up if you suggest that dude,
he can't play in the league. He doesn't move great laterally,
and the NBA is a spacing speed league. When you've
talked to anybody about Zach Edy. Is he just not
(39:03):
an NBA player at all?
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Look, I think he's on a roster.
Speaker 10 (39:08):
You know, some people are saying late first round or
mid first round pick. I think late first round at best,
maybe a second round pick.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
I think he'll be on a roster.
Speaker 10 (39:19):
But you said it, he can't move well enough in
today's NBA.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
It's just as simple as that.
Speaker 10 (39:24):
He will get exploited to the if degree on defense.
And I know he'll block some shots when he's got
a chance, get a few rebounds. But teams, you know,
if you got a big that can shoot, I mean,
teams are just gonna have a field day with him defensively.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
So that's the problem.
Speaker 10 (39:42):
So I don't think he has any type of NBA
career of substance. But I do think he gets on
a roster and stays in the league for a little while.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Yeah, he's such a dominant college player. It's just but
I was talking about it earlier. T Bow was a
dominant college player in football. Sometimes sports are different, different,
different stylistically, it doesn't work. Chris brewce SORRD. He's on
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Speaker 4 (40:07):
You too, Colin
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