July 5, 2024 • 37 mins
Jason McIntyre steps in for Colin and explains why despite the Cowboys haven't played in an NFC Championship game since 1995 they're still clearly America's Team. He shares his Super Bowl tiers for the upcoming NFL season and a surprising team that missed the playoffs finds themselves in the top tier. Plus, NBA reporter Ric Bucher joins the show to talk about Klay Thompson leaving the Warriors and LeBron James potentially coming off the bench for team USA in the Olympics
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowherd
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Hello, and welcome to the Herd. Hope everybody had a safe,
funfilled July fourth. It's me Jason McIntyre in for Colin Cowherd,
my last day subven in for the big guy. He's
back next week. I will not be here next week,
so on my final day of the week, I'm joined
by Alex Curry. Alex, how you doing? That was your
(00:50):
July fourth? It was great, It was wild.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I got home and there was already a party at
my house. It's what I get from being married to
a rock star. But we did like a cruise down
the strand. It was why in her most of each
and then it sounded like we were hearing like firework
explosions from five pm to five am.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Did you hear him?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Five class horrible nights that was wild.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It was wild, so much fun. If I'm off my
game today, I'm gonna blame the fireworks and the LA
parties that were happening all night. I tried to go
to bed early, and you know it didn't quite work out.
But I woke up this morning to some news from
my I mean my bff, right, the former NFL MVP.
I'll call him a frenemy, Cam Newton. My goodness, Cam
(01:31):
Newton chiming in here on the Dallas Cowboys and Dak
Prescott A shocking development. So obviously, listen. We know the
Cowboys have been America's team for what going on fifty
years now. I mean, they haven't been totally dominant in
the last twenty. But I've got some good news for
Cowboys fans. It's not all terrible news off the heels
of the Dak Prescott walking boot photo yesterday. But Cam
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Newton decided on his podcast. You know he's new to
this media space that he's declaring the Cowboys should not
be America's team just because we're calling them the America's team.
It should be the Chiefs because Taylor Swift is dating
Travis Kelce. Oh Okay, Cam had a roundabout way of
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essentially saying that America's team, Like, why are we doing that?
And Cam has spoken, so we should all listen. Well,
Cam is kind of new to this media thing, so
I'm gonna fill you in a little bit here, Cam.
The New England Patriots were winners for two decades. They
had a dynasty with Brady and Belichick. They want to
I think Brady won seven Super Bowls. They were never
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America's team. It just didn't take. As a matter of fact,
if you ask me, they were hated outside of New England.
People were tired of that dynasty. So just because right
now the Kansas City Chiefs have won three Super Bowls
in five years and Travis Kelcey's dating Taylor's with it
doesn't make them America's team. It's still the Cowboys, a
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blue blood franchise which you know, dating back to the seventies,
has always been on top of the NFL. And listen,
they play on Thanksgiving every year. For a reason, the
Dallas Cowboys haven't had back to back losing seasons since
two thousand and two. Folks, the Cowboys have been really,
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really good just because they haven't had postseason success. It
doesn't mean we should strip the America's team, Moniker from Dallas.
All I know is when I was a young NFL
fan in the nineties and the Cowboys were dominant, and
then the Internet comes up and you got the starter jackets,
everybody was a Cowboys fan, everyone, not just teenage girls
under thirteen who loved the chiefs now because of Taylor Swift.
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I don't know, Cam, it just felt a little weird
like you were trying to I don't know, engagement farm perhaps.
I think JJ Reddick would be proud here in the
down season in the NFL, you're engagement farming, using the
Cowboys to kind of cut through. But Cam, that's just
not how it works. Dallas is America's team. You want
to go look at the NFL schedule. Cowboys in the
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early window four times all season. Why is that? Oh,
it's because everybody wants their eyeballs on the Cowboys. They
were in primetime all the time. They're in the four
PM window all the time because they got fans all
over America. Hell, Cam, I don't know if you noticed,
but on July fourth, a photo emerged of Dak Prescott
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in a protective walking boot, and the NFL media went
to def Con one. It was panic time and everybody
freaked out, Oh my gosh, oh here he is Dak
Prescott a walking boot. What Trey Lance is you're gonna
be starting week one? Like, people went ballistic, They lost
their minds over a photo of Dak Prescott in a
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walking boot, like, this is America's team, This is what
they are, Cam, And you know, we'll talk to someone
later in the show, a great guest who actually has
texted with Cam. Sorry with Dak Prescott about the injury.
It was preventative. He was going fishing. Stand down, everybody,
It's gonna be okay. But this is what comes with
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the territory of America's team. I know, you know Cam
is not as high on Dak Prescott as I am.
And Cam is the king of hot takes and hats.
Dak Prescott right now has led the Cowboys to three
straight twelve win seasons. I think he should get paid.
Here's Greg Cosell talking about Dak Prescott as we enter
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this season.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
At his core, what he is is he's an executor
and a ball distributor and he's good at it.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Now.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Obviously, when you get into the playoffs and played better defenses.
Depending on who you're playing, you really have to be efficient.
One of the issues they have, and they're going to
have it this year, is the run game. They do
not have a running back. If you look at what
Ezekiel Elliott's tape has shown the last two years, He's
certainly not a back that can carry two hundred and
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thirty or two hundred and forty times. And because of
the style of quarterback that he is at this point,
as I said, a distributor, he needs a complete offense.
He needs a run game to be effective.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah, we all do. That was from the Ross Tucker podcast,
Greg co so good stuff. He comes on this show,
as you guys know. But listen, I'm not as down
on Dak as everyone else. Obviously it's a massive season
with the McCarthy situation looming. Ceedee Lamb, Michah Parsons. I'm
not saying Dak Prescott is some world beater. I think
he's good. I think he's a top ten to eleven
quarterback in the league. But to try to steal the
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monikers at job Dallas is no longer America's team camp. Hey,
I know you're new to this media stuff, but nice try.
It's a bit of a miss. Let's move to the
NBA where Lebron James and all the biggest stars in
the league will descend upon Vegas for USA Basketball training camp.
They will train in Vegas this week, then they will
battle Canada, I believe, next week and as a tune
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up for the Olympics. But at training camp, you guys
can take a guess what the biggest story is gonna
be thirty nine year old Lebron James. And boy, what
a rough summer for Lebron huh? I mean goodness, gracious,
the guy hand picks the Lakers next head coach his
podcast buddy. Then he gets the Lakers to draft his
son in the second round to give him a big
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fat contract. You can it's dripping with hate, folks, you
know it's coming. And then Lebron says, I'll take less
to bring in free agents, and then they don't get anyone.
Oh wow. You know the media, the ink stained wretches
who are gonna be covering this team in Vegas. It
could get ugly. A lot of these guys grew up
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Michael Jordan's sick of fans younger in the nineties. They
love Jordan. They're not huge fans of Lebron. And you
know the media loves to build people up and then
tear them down. And it is coming, folks. Do you
see the article that dropped this morning. I don't know
if you saw it. Big question, So is Lebron gonna
come off the bench for Team USA? The pylon begins,
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They're coming after the King, you know, the saying from
the wire, you come at the King, you best not miss.
People are now speculating should Lebron come off the bench
for Team USA? This stacked team? I mean, obviously Joel
and Beidle start at center. Right, we got that. You
got Steph Curry is your point guard. Here's the roster
we got on FS one. Probably need Kevin Durant as
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your stretch for okay, so that's three spots. Then you
need a lockdown wing defender. Well that's not Lebron, that's
probably Kawhi Leonard, Right, he's healthy allegedly Steve Kerr says
he's healthy. Whatever, And then you'll need like a shooting
guard to fill it up, maybe a d book Anthony Edwards.
You want to get very defensive Drew Holliday. Maybe it's
all matchup dependent when they play France, and oh my gosh,
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I can't wait for that game. Gobert and one Ben
Yama are working together right now as a starter for France.
That is an impenetrable back line, and USA will have
to counter with Embid and Anthony Davis probably starting. But
all of this is a way roundabout way of saying, well, shucks,
it should Lebron come off the bench. And you know
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there's somebody sitting there stewing, just wait, I'm gonna come
off the bench. Really, you guys are sending me to
Paris so I can come off the bench. You think,
how's Lebron gonna take that? And folks, we're at this
weird space.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
Now.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
We'll get to in depth a little shortly where once
the athletes get near the end, it starts to become
open season on them because the media has been, you know,
ball washing these guys for two decades and now all
of a sudden, it's am Lebron is thirty nine. Now
it's weird because in the eighties, you know, Magic obviously
had to retire early Larry Bird's injuries, he was done
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in his early to mid thirties. Isaiah Thomas just up
and retired before he was even thirty five. Jordan quit
two times by well before the age of thirty nine.
So it's like Lebron's playing at third we should be
applauding him and that he's still around and playing at
such a high all NBA level, averaging twenty five, seven
and seven or whatever the numbers are. And now you
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guys are trying to drive him to the bench. Listen,
we know that commanding control of a team and the
court and just owning everything is a space of basically
three guys in the NBA right now, three people do
it better than anyone. Anybody could score, anybody can be
a pure point guard, anybody can rebound, but when you've
got somebody who does all those Nikola Jokic, Luka Doncic
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and Lebron James, they're still the three best at totally
controlling all the pieces on the chess board. They've got everything,
manipulating defenses. They're the three best at it. Two of
those guys they're not playing for USA, obviously, and by
the way, Luka Doncic has a seismic battle against Giannis tomorrow.
One of those two teams, Greece or Slovenia will not
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make the Olympics, and I'm sure their NBA coach will
be thrilled that they get a rest in the summer.
But other than Luca and Jokic, who are I think,
like thirteen years twelve thirteen years Lebron's junior. Lebron is
better than anyone on Team USA at manipulating defenses. Steph
Curry has the gravitational pull that you've got to guard
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him on the perimeter. He'll be hitting thirty footers. Okay,
But like Kawhen, Leonard doesn't do the stuff Lebron does.
He's a great defender, and he's a good mid range guy. Okay,
probably great mid range but fine, whatever. Like I like
Jason Tatum a lot, he doesn't do all the things
Lebron does. Although the playmaking was kind of unlocked in
the finals, he looked great, in my opinion, led the
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Celtics and assists, But you need Lebron out there. I
cannot envision a scenario where Lebron's coming off the bench
for this team. It would take some big kahonas from
Steve Curtisay, yeah, Lebron, We're gonna go give me the
sixth man in Paris. I don't see a world where
that's happening. I do see a world. Yeah, Lebron's not
the shooter. Kevin Durant is right, and you want to
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stretch those defenses. You know, they'll pack the paint in
the Olympics. With the Feebo rules, it's gonna be fascinating.
I don't see a scenario where Lebron comes off the bench,
but certainly it's got to be in play in certain
individual matchups, like I would sooner start Drew Holliday at
the two and have him defend wings, and then I'd
have Lebron in there for offense. But we'll see Steve
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Kerr has options. You look at the roster and it's
like this team is stacked. They're loaded, you know, bam Adebayo,
Try's Halliburton. These are end of the bench guys and
they're like top tier dudes in the NBA. There's a
loaded team, and I just it's gonna get weird if
the media starts pushing should Lebron come off the bench?
We already saw one article this morning. I hope we
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don't see anymore. So alex USA basketball. I'm fired up
about it. Starts in Vegas. Are you going back to Vegas?
Fass No, no, no, not right now.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
But the interesting thing about these super teams is everyone's
gonna have to put their egos aside right and do
what's best for America. And they have a great leader
and Steve Kerr he's gonna do what's best at that time.
The point is, I mean, he made a point this
morning in one of the articles. He said, if everyone
else is getting better than the US, has to find
ways to do the same right. So whatever it's going
to take in that moment, Steve Kerr is the right
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guy for the job. He is what the most recent
coach of the most recent dynasty that we've had in
the NBA.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
He works with superstars. I'm confident that he'll.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Do the right thing.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
It's just weird to hear is do the right thing
meaning bench Lebron or have him come off to win.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
The right thing is to win gold. That's all that matters.
When you go to the Olympics, you do whatever you
need to do to win gold. You gotta put egos aside.
What is our best chance to win this game right now?
And that's what it has to be.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Fun storyline for USA Training Camp. All right, Coming up next, folks,
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Is it the end of the era for our first
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Speaker 3 (14:03):
I've never done this on the show. I'm not a
huge fan of these tiers, but you know, the staff
is like, you got some takes on these tiers. I'm like,
you know it, you know I do. So I went
and broke down all thirty two teams. I put them
in Super Bowl tiers. I have five tiers. So I
guess let's roll the tears. So starting at the bottom
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with absolutely no shot, you got the Denver Broncos a stink,
Patriots awful, New York Giants, dumpster Fire Raiders not very good,
and a bit of a surprise entrant in the Arizona Cardinals,
who I don't think are very good this year. The
schedule is brutal, not a ton of talent. I think
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they're in a wait and see year where it's like
is Kyler Murriar guy. We'll see, but that group is
absolutely no shot at anything. Next up we've got. They
need a prayer. These I think seven teams need a
prayer to get to the playoffs or super Bowl. Started
with the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm sorry, guys. As much as
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I've liked Russell Wilson, it ain't happening. The team is
not very good. Schedules daunting, no thank you. I think
the Bucks take a big step back losing a great
offensive coordinator in Canalis. Listen, it's not a knock on Baker.
I just I don't see it duplicating this year. The
Saints are the team that irked me to no end
last season, folks. I was all in on the schedule, everything.
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I just looked at the off season ranking for offensive lines.
The Saints are thirty second according to one report. Thirty second,
and we know cars stinks under pressure. Saints, They're not
gonna be good. Vikings Alex and I talked about him earlier.
Good team, but they're gonna need a prayer in that division. Washington,
I'm not feeling the hype. Cowhard loves them. I don't
see it. Carolina Panthers the only team in this group
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which kind of has the arrow pointing up. If you
remember last month, we had on a guy Adam turnoff
his group bet the Panthers win total over moved from
four and a half to five and a half. I'm
telling you, Panthers are a by team for me. And
then the Tennessee Titans. They're not very good, but they
got a lot of new pieces. I'll give them the
benefit of the doubt that they're not in that final
bottom group. Mid that's what the young kids like to say,
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how's my fit today? That's mid Dad, not great. That's
how I feel about these teams. Dolphins, they pulled back
a little falcons like, are they that good? They're the
one argument they should be up with higher. Rams obviously
made the playoffs last year. I don't know if Stafford's
gonna stay healthy again. Bears on the uptick. Jags. I
don't know what to make of the Jags, folks. I
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can't put them in a tier higher. They're not lower.
Colts is another team on the uptick. Keep an eye
on the Colts. If Richardson's healthy, they are gonna be
in contentent for a playoff spot. And then Seattle. I
don't know what to do with Seattle wacky season.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
The second tier, which we're calling in the mix for
the Super Bowl is lengthy. Obviously, Buffalo, I know people
are gonna say, wait, wait, Buffalo, why aren't they in
the top I think Alex and I talked about the Ravens.
A lot of people have Ravens in the top. I'm
just telling you Ravens last year obviously a charm season.
They had home home field advantage, Lamar MVP. They lost
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a lot of dudes, offensive line, defensive coordinators gone. There
will be a pullback from the Ravens, folks. I'm just
I'm getting in front of it. I don't know that
they're going to be like a nine win team, but
they will certainly not be the cream of the crop
in the AFC. Eagles I like, and they nearly made
the top list for me. Texans, I can't go all in.
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I know Alex and I talked about him. I can't
put them in the top tier. Cowboys will see they've
got a lot of question marks. Everybody loves the Packers. Now,
the Chargers I think have the lowest win total of
the in the mixed crowd, But I'm just telling you
their schedule is cake. They're here based on the schedule.
And keep an eye on the Browns, who I think
are a little undervalued. Their offensive line returning healthy, it's
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so beat up last year. I like the Browns. And finally,
the top tier, the favorites. Oh yeah, oh yeah, No
York Jets they are there, folks, No Cap forty nine
ers obviously are They're the favorites. The Chiefs are gonna
be in the mix, you know, to win the Super Bowl.
I don't like it, but that's the reality. Detroit Lions
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are very good. They will be knocking on the door.
And yes, the Cincinnati Bungles, who finished last place in
the division last year. And you know, every year somebody
goes worst to first. Now it's a little cheesy to go,
you know, a team with a good record to go
worse to first, but that's what The Bengals were toughest
division in football. I have a lot of notes on
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the Jets. I'm not gonna go too deep here, but
I have them favorite in thirteen of seventeen games. Pro
Football Focus has their offensive line. They were thirty first
last year, their fifth this year because it got so
much better. Obviously, Aaron Rodgers Achilles is everything, but the
offensive line is way better. Pass defense number one in
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the NFL, A guy at ESPN said, the Jets linebackers
graded out as tied with the Niners as the best
in the league. Folks, this team is stacked, ridiculously stacked.
If healthy, and let's just assume health for everybody. I'm
telling you the Jets will be in the mix. We
can make fun of Aaron Rodgers's Egypt nonsense, but I'm
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on record, the Jets will be in the mix. Favorites,
one of the top five, one of the five favorites
to win the Super Bowl, and Vegas guys kind of
sort of agrees with me right there.
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Speaker 6 (20:16):
Everything's got a long time. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Obviously he's a Bay Area guy. So we'll get to
the Warriors in a sect. But I got to start
with this piece in The Athletic Today that suggested perhaps
Lebron could come off the bench for Team USA. Start
kd Curry, Embid and you know, a shooting guard to
be named later, and then Kawhi Leonard as your wing.
Your thoughts.
Speaker 8 (20:37):
I can see why you do it. It's the the
idea has been knocked down. But if I'm looking at
this roster and I want to come out with the
best defensive team I can and set the standard, then
I wouldn't start Lebron James. I mean, as I look
across the board, I could make the case that he's
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the worst defender. Taliburton probably gets that award, but Steph.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Curry is a better defender or chugging wing.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
I think Curry puts more into playing defense these days.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Lebron, come on.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
Reality, Look he's thirty nine years old. He still has
to do a lot offensively now. As a playmaker. Again,
this is kind of like depending on who you're going
to start among the guards. This is honestly, I'm looking
at this roster and I don't know who the first
five are because I don't have a problem playing Steph
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off the ball. He does that with the Warriors for
the most part, with Draymond being the being the playmaker.
But if you go play Steph and Drew Holiday together
in the back court, then you're bringing Tyres and Lebron
off the bench. I'm not sure that that quite fits.
There are a lot of questions that Steve curR Is
going to have to answer when it comes to what
the rotation is and when what the combinations are with
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this team. But as I look at, look, Lebron James
at this point is a power forward. So I'm looking
at Bam Autebaio, Anthony Davis, Kevin Durant, all those guys
are playing at the fur Kawhi Leonard probably plays at
the four wait.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
One power forward or point forward.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
But if you well, if you play him at point forward,
then who are you playing? Are you playing Lebron? Then
you're playing Lebron sort of at a three right point forward.
He's playing on the perimeter.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, I mean I would have KD come off the
bench and you have Kawhi as your lockdown defender and
the instead of a stretch for you have a point
forward in Lebron.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Okay, okay, I mean I don't know that Lebron wants
to defend big guys.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
Lebron has to defend big guys. At this point, you
can't defend he can't defend on the wing. You can't
defend on that.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I mean again, you could probably hide him on some
guy from Greece, right or well, Canada. You can't hide anybody,
and you can't hide on anybody in France.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
And that's and that's one of the things that.
Speaker 8 (22:55):
As we look at this roster, like I would expect
Team USA to be favored, but I don't think by
any means that it's going to be a cake walk
and it hasn't been for years, and so that's where
if Lebron's going to give you an advantage coming off
the bench, I mean, we can look at it as
demeaning or we can look at it as like you
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could be a huge X factor coming off the bench,
because who's going to have a player of Lebron's caliber
coming off the bench? Yeah, psychologically it could be a
huge I.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Don't know, just putting egos aside for some of these
veteran guys like Kadi, Lebron and Curry's gonna be kind
of interesting. You know, this is obviously their last go round.
And let's be real, Lebron has had a rough month,
wouldn't you agree. I mean, he takes heat forgetting his
his podcasting buddy as a coach. He takes heat for
the Lakers drafting Bronnie. He says he's going to take
less and then nobody wants to come so he gets
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the max right, And it's like, I don't know, it
feels like it's been a bit of a rough month.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
Say that, Yeah, it has been a rough month, But
hasn't he been the architect of all that? I mean,
I'm just saying like it's not isn't somebody who's done
these things to him. Yeah, JJ is his guy, Bronnie
is his son. These are things that he wanted to
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see happen by all intents and purposes. So like, yeah,
as far as the free agents are concerned, Buddy Heald
is the big surprise to me. Like when he says,
I want to win, and so I'm going.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
To go to the Warriors.
Speaker 8 (24:27):
Like Warriors aren't exactly like leaps and bounds ahead of
the Lakers when it comes to what their potential.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Is for next year.
Speaker 8 (24:35):
So I uh, that surprised me in a sense that
he would say that that was the reason that he
went there.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Well, okay, so let's go to Buddy Heield goes to
the Warriors basically for nothing, what a second round take
in twenty thirty one or some nonsense. Yeah, but here's
a question. He's starting for the Warriors. He would not
have started over Di Low or Austin Reeves for the Lakers.
Speaker 8 (24:55):
Right, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Guess so he probably wants to just go He's gonna
get shots because then the Sixers. Do you remember against
the Knicks, he was like buried on the bench until
the end of the series.
Speaker 8 (25:06):
He's look, I'm not a big believer in Buddy Healed.
At this point, I'm more excited about Kyle Anderson going
there and d Anthony Melton than I am Buddy Heel. Huh,
Because Kyle Anderson IQ wise playing the four spot, he
was going to fit in with the Warriors.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
He's going to give them a big boost.
Speaker 8 (25:24):
And I think the Minnesota Timberwolves are going to miss
Kyle in terms of just his basketball IQ and his
ability to affect the game without the ball. The Anthony
Melton is a three and D D Meltain, I think
he's a nice addition. If Heal's making shots, he's great.
But there's been too many times. And one of the
reasons he got buried with Philadelphia was because he had
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open shots and he started getting gunshots because when he misses,
he's suddenly like ah, And I'm like, you're out there
for one reason to make threes and if you're not
taking him, you have zero chance of making them.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Do you think they can replace Clay in the aggregate
with Buddy Healed and Melton?
Speaker 8 (26:06):
Yes, I do based on what we saw from Clay
last year. You know, is Buddy gonna make the wide
open shots that Clay was missing because that was the
thing for me is that defensively Clay is not the same.
But offensively, what was shocking is that the number of
threes that he missed where he was wide open, that
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is what he has left. I don't know whether it's
the dynamics of the Warriors. We'll see if it makes
a difference with Dallas. The difficulty with Dallas is and
this is the growth that Luka Dancis has to have.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
It can be difficult.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
You know there was times where the supporting cast for
Dallas last year in the playoffs missed a ton of threes.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Right.
Speaker 8 (26:51):
Well, the challenge is when you are a role player
and you're a floor spacer and you don't know when
the ball has come and you know ever touch it.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
Until it's swung to you, and now you got to shoe.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Then you got to shoe.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
That's difficult as opposed to you touch it early and
it comes back and you know that they're looking at
that Lucas looking to get you.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
A shot, then you're ready.
Speaker 8 (27:14):
But if you're standing there for like twelve seconds, am
I gonna get it?
Speaker 6 (27:18):
Am I gonna? I don't know if I'm gonna get it?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Oh, no, I got it.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
I gotta make it. That is a challenge. So we'll
see how well Clay adjusted that.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
You're giving me shades of myself and my men's league.
I set screens and I take open threes, and but
I don't get the ball for four possessions and then
I get it. It's going up right, It's forever, it's
going on.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
Oh yeah, No, that's.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Gonna be the case with Clay MAV's top team in
the West.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
I do not have them as a top team in
the West. I understand what you know. People are gonna say, Hey,
they just went to the finals, so they should be
the top team I and people are gonna are gonna laugh.
And I'm making this big of a deal about about
Kyle Anderson. I like Minnesota's basketball IQ overall. I it
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wasn't as high as it needs to be. I believe
in the growth of Anthony Edwards. I think he's going
to be better. I think Carl Anthony, I think that
whole team is going to be better as a result
of their experience. So Minnesota, for me, Oklahoma City with
the addition of Isaiah Hartenstein, I don't think there is
a favorite in the Western Conference Finals.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
It's a take.
Speaker 8 (28:25):
I just Dallas is in the mix, but they came
on at the at the end of the year, right,
let's see. And I feel like Derek Lively and PJ. Washington,
some of those guys kind of got exposed a little
bit in the finals.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
I want to see the growth.
Speaker 8 (28:42):
That's that to me is I mean, we have a
whole new legion of contenders now and we're gonna see
which which teams among them Minnesota, Oklahoma City, Dallas. I
feel like Denver. I think the stan Kronky And we've
seen in this before in other sports. Yeah, like he
goes a ring and then he gets conservative financially yea.
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And we saw it with the Rams with great point.
We're seeing with the Denver Nuggets.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
One more team in the West, Golden State Warriors. So
lowry marketing apparently is on the trade market. We don't
know if Danny Age is gonna ship him. Apparently the
Spurs are interested. Let's say he goes to the Warriors. Yep,
a, are you giving up kuminga to get marketed? And then
you're gonna have to pay him like forty five a
year and then b do you think he makes them
like instead of a play in team, like a top
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six in the West.
Speaker 8 (29:31):
Top six is uh, could be, could be, could be
in that five to six range with marketing. The problem
with Kaminga is you have to play through him and
you have to play a completely different way. And this
is the problem that the Warriors have had, is that
they have tried to move in two different directions. They've
tried to retain being contenders playing with Steph and Dre
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and the system that they've played, and then they've tried
to develop Kaminga plays an entirely different way. He doesn't
fit into their system, and so you've been at cross
purposes and you really haven't accomplished either one. So in
my mind, marking in as A as a stretch four
and it fits much better in terms of we're going
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to try to take one more crack at it with
Steph and Andre than with Kaminga.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
I just he's a great talent.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
He hasn't proved to me that he can be the guy,
and so yeah, I was supposed to do right by
and keep in mind you probably have to do right
by Steph and Draymond since Clay is out the door. Yeah, like,
let's throw them a bone. Let's go get a guy
who fits better with the way they play than trying
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to accommodate the young guys.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
I wonder though, that the luxury tax I think you
saw the numbers the Clippers and Warriors paid it each
of the last four years, both of them currently not
in the luxury tax this year, which may say that
the owners are like, Hey, I'm not doing it out
of a take. I'm not going a long on it,
but I'll just float it is Steph Curry on the
Warriors at the beginning of the twenty five twenty sixtys.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
Yes he's retiring as let's not even this. This is
what Lebron has has introduced. Yet we now talk about
every player, every star player who's won a championship. It's
now your team is either putting you in contention or
you have to go someplace else.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
Yeah, because you should be in contention every year.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I don't want to see Seph Curry win he thirty
five games.
Speaker 8 (31:37):
But that it's not realistic that you all these guys
are running to find a team that's going to put
them in contention if their team's not putting them in contention,
especially with this with these new salary cap rules.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
It's just not realistic.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
I mean, we've we continue to do this like we're doing.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
It with the Lakers.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
How Come the Lakers haven't made any moves to like
to put them into contention.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
They've done it for the last three four years.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
They went to the playoffs four out of the last
five years, and only this past year did Anthony Davis
and Lebron James play seventy plus games. I look at
what the Lakers have done over the last five years,
and I think.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
Most people would go this has been a disappointment. Only
one championship.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
I'm like, what are you talking about a title? You
won a.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
Title, your two best players have been most of the
time unavailable because of injury, and you still went to
the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
Four out of five years.
Speaker 8 (32:33):
Like we're the We're just so unrealistic when it comes
to Lebron and the Lakers these days.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Speaking of unrealistic, I made a top ten list of
the ten best players in the NBA. I had kd
at ten, then I bumped him for Embiid. I'm sure
people are not gonna like it, but Kadi's eight business
partner went on Instagram and was like this is gross,
blah blah blah. How could you do that about your thing? Yeah, okay, listen,
I don't know. Let's start here. Is Kevin de Rant
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a top ten player in the league right now, right now?
I don't care what he did three years ago or
two right.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
Now, this is yours. This is your list right here.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Correct. So Eddie House took shots at me, Amic did
not like one and two. There's some issues with Tatum
at four, Where's Jalen Brown? Where's Ad? Bruns are too high?
But I'm just mostly curious about the Kevin Durant angle.
Speaker 8 (33:21):
Yeah, I mean he has to be if Lebron is
still elite, then KD has to still be elite because
the numbers are are.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Well, the scoring numbers are comparable.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
Actually, uh KD scores.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah, KAD might be at twenty seven and Lebron's at
twenty five whatever, but the assists are down a little
bit for KD. I just maybe it's the fit in
Phoenix is clunky. I don't he just see he got
swept in the first round and we're talking trash to him.
Make it was like it's not your league anymore.
Speaker 8 (33:51):
But here's the other part, Like and I can't emphasize
this enough, like Lebron is not. I mean, I'm looking
at this list here, he's the worst.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I know it's clear you and Lebron have a checker.
I'm just saying, this.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Is my value is let's account for two way players.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
That's very fair.
Speaker 8 (34:14):
We we we always rank them on the offensive numbers,
and it doesn't give enough credence to I mean, it's
probably why I wouldn't have Luca at the at the
top of that list. I'd probably have shake Gilgess Alexander
a lot higher as a result of that, because of
his his ability is a two way player. Anthony Edwards
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has all the talent in the world. I don't think
he can orchestrate the game the way any of these
ten guys do.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
I think he's the youngest on this list.
Speaker 8 (34:47):
Yeah, and so look, it's it's tough right now because
I look at the NBA and like, we don't like,
who's the face of the league right now, we don't
have that definitive.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
Making a top ten is going.
Speaker 8 (35:03):
To be debatable because I think we're in this transitional
point of the KDS and the Lebron's and the staffs
are turning the corner and heading for home. And then
we have the European players like Jokic and Doncic who
are dominant offensive players but obviously not the same at
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the defensive end. And then the American players like like,
I don't even know who the next contending face American
faces to be the face of the league.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Well, the problem with the Celtics is they win the
CHIP and they're alleged best player. Tatum doesn't get the
conference finals player the final Conference finals now, and then
the finals MVP goes to Jalen Brown too, So it
is You're right, it's.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Such a mixed bag right now.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Can we have Anthony Edwards win more than two playoff
series before we declare him the face of the NBA?
Speaker 6 (35:56):
That was way premature.
Speaker 8 (35:58):
That's why I just hated when everybody was making the
Michael Jordan comparisons. Yeah that was from a physical standpoint. Okay,
I see that, But there's just so much more to
the game than that.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Yeah, all right, we could wrap up with Paul George
and Embiid the last couple of summers, Rick we've seen
Damian Lilla goes to the Bucks. Oh put make them
the favorite Bradley Beal to the Sons, you know, gotta
love it and wherever Paul George goes, apparently you're supposed
to automatically win a.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
Chip, even though even though he's never done that anymore.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Correct, shocking? Where are you on the six Ers in
this move? Obviously they're gonna be good.
Speaker 8 (36:29):
But yeah, look, they had to make it. They had
to make this move in order. It's the only move
they could have made where they you could make the
case that they are keeping stride with the New York
Knicks and the Boston Celtics, and they had the cap
room to do it. So it makes perfect sense. But
I'm if we're talking about title contention, title contending teams
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as we've seen with the Boston Celtics, as we've seen
with teams over the course of the last four or
five years, it's about your depth and versatility. I've never
really bought into the Big three concept in terms of
that's what you need to be a championship team, and
that's what they are right now.
Speaker 6 (37:09):
Like who's their fourth best player, Paul Reid, Kelly Kelly Oubray.
Speaker 8 (37:14):
And then you look at Boston, and you look at
New York and uh, and you look at Oklahoma City
and like Minnesota, like.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
They all go four or five six players deep. And
to me, that's what you need if you were going
to play for a time.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
One hundred percent agree, all right, great stuff, Rick Beeger,
what is your stuff? Great stuff?
Speaker 6 (37:33):
You know you said one hundred percent we agree.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Agree, Yeah, very right.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Write that down, Write that down, clip that shot. I
do not know that that's happened before. Because it's a
good day.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I'm taking your time off after this.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
He's on vacation.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
He's got to recover.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
He's like, yeah, what say's great?
Speaker 3 (37:51):
That's all right.
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This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowherd
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Hello, and welcome to the Herd. Hope everybody had a safe,
funfilled July fourth. It's me Jason McIntyre in for Colin Cowherd,
my last day subven in for the big guy. He's
back next week. I will not be here next week,
so on my final day of the week, I'm joined
by Alex Curry. Alex, how you doing? That was your
(00:50):
July fourth? It was great, It was wild.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I got home and there was already a party at
my house. It's what I get from being married to
a rock star. But we did like a cruise down
the strand. It was why in her most of each
and then it sounded like we were hearing like firework
explosions from five pm to five am.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Did you hear him?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Five class horrible nights that was wild.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It was wild, so much fun. If I'm off my
game today, I'm gonna blame the fireworks and the LA
parties that were happening all night. I tried to go
to bed early, and you know it didn't quite work out.
But I woke up this morning to some news from
my I mean my bff, right, the former NFL MVP.
I'll call him a frenemy, Cam Newton. My goodness, Cam
(01:31):
Newton chiming in here on the Dallas Cowboys and Dak
Prescott A shocking development. So obviously, listen. We know the
Cowboys have been America's team for what going on fifty
years now. I mean, they haven't been totally dominant in
the last twenty. But I've got some good news for
Cowboys fans. It's not all terrible news off the heels
of the Dak Prescott walking boot photo yesterday. But Cam
(01:54):
Newton decided on his podcast. You know he's new to
this media space that he's declaring the Cowboys should not
be America's team just because we're calling them the America's team.
It should be the Chiefs because Taylor Swift is dating
Travis Kelce. Oh Okay, Cam had a roundabout way of
(02:15):
essentially saying that America's team, Like, why are we doing that?
And Cam has spoken, so we should all listen. Well,
Cam is kind of new to this media thing, so
I'm gonna fill you in a little bit here, Cam.
The New England Patriots were winners for two decades. They
had a dynasty with Brady and Belichick. They want to
I think Brady won seven Super Bowls. They were never
(02:36):
America's team. It just didn't take. As a matter of fact,
if you ask me, they were hated outside of New England.
People were tired of that dynasty. So just because right
now the Kansas City Chiefs have won three Super Bowls
in five years and Travis Kelcey's dating Taylor's with it
doesn't make them America's team. It's still the Cowboys, a
(02:56):
blue blood franchise which you know, dating back to the seventies,
has always been on top of the NFL. And listen,
they play on Thanksgiving every year. For a reason, the
Dallas Cowboys haven't had back to back losing seasons since
two thousand and two. Folks, the Cowboys have been really,
(03:17):
really good just because they haven't had postseason success. It
doesn't mean we should strip the America's team, Moniker from Dallas.
All I know is when I was a young NFL
fan in the nineties and the Cowboys were dominant, and
then the Internet comes up and you got the starter jackets,
everybody was a Cowboys fan, everyone, not just teenage girls
under thirteen who loved the chiefs now because of Taylor Swift.
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I don't know, Cam, it just felt a little weird
like you were trying to I don't know, engagement farm perhaps.
I think JJ Reddick would be proud here in the
down season in the NFL, you're engagement farming, using the
Cowboys to kind of cut through. But Cam, that's just
not how it works. Dallas is America's team. You want
to go look at the NFL schedule. Cowboys in the
(04:01):
early window four times all season. Why is that? Oh,
it's because everybody wants their eyeballs on the Cowboys. They
were in primetime all the time. They're in the four
PM window all the time because they got fans all
over America. Hell, Cam, I don't know if you noticed,
but on July fourth, a photo emerged of Dak Prescott
(04:23):
in a protective walking boot, and the NFL media went
to def Con one. It was panic time and everybody
freaked out, Oh my gosh, oh here he is Dak
Prescott a walking boot. What Trey Lance is you're gonna
be starting week one? Like, people went ballistic, They lost
their minds over a photo of Dak Prescott in a
(04:45):
walking boot, like, this is America's team, This is what
they are, Cam, And you know, we'll talk to someone
later in the show, a great guest who actually has
texted with Cam. Sorry with Dak Prescott about the injury.
It was preventative. He was going fishing. Stand down, everybody,
It's gonna be okay. But this is what comes with
(05:05):
the territory of America's team. I know, you know Cam
is not as high on Dak Prescott as I am.
And Cam is the king of hot takes and hats.
Dak Prescott right now has led the Cowboys to three
straight twelve win seasons. I think he should get paid.
Here's Greg Cosell talking about Dak Prescott as we enter
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this season.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
At his core, what he is is he's an executor
and a ball distributor and he's good at it.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Now.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Obviously, when you get into the playoffs and played better defenses.
Depending on who you're playing, you really have to be efficient.
One of the issues they have, and they're going to
have it this year, is the run game. They do
not have a running back. If you look at what
Ezekiel Elliott's tape has shown the last two years, He's
certainly not a back that can carry two hundred and
(05:57):
thirty or two hundred and forty times. And because of
the style of quarterback that he is at this point,
as I said, a distributor, he needs a complete offense.
He needs a run game to be effective.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah, we all do. That was from the Ross Tucker podcast,
Greg co so good stuff. He comes on this show,
as you guys know. But listen, I'm not as down
on Dak as everyone else. Obviously it's a massive season
with the McCarthy situation looming. Ceedee Lamb, Michah Parsons. I'm
not saying Dak Prescott is some world beater. I think
he's good. I think he's a top ten to eleven
quarterback in the league. But to try to steal the
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monikers at job Dallas is no longer America's team camp. Hey,
I know you're new to this media stuff, but nice try.
It's a bit of a miss. Let's move to the
NBA where Lebron James and all the biggest stars in
the league will descend upon Vegas for USA Basketball training camp.
They will train in Vegas this week, then they will
battle Canada, I believe, next week and as a tune
(06:56):
up for the Olympics. But at training camp, you guys
can take a guess what the biggest story is gonna
be thirty nine year old Lebron James. And boy, what
a rough summer for Lebron huh? I mean goodness, gracious,
the guy hand picks the Lakers next head coach his
podcast buddy. Then he gets the Lakers to draft his
son in the second round to give him a big
(07:17):
fat contract. You can it's dripping with hate, folks, you
know it's coming. And then Lebron says, I'll take less
to bring in free agents, and then they don't get anyone.
Oh wow. You know the media, the ink stained wretches
who are gonna be covering this team in Vegas. It
could get ugly. A lot of these guys grew up
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Michael Jordan's sick of fans younger in the nineties. They
love Jordan. They're not huge fans of Lebron. And you
know the media loves to build people up and then
tear them down. And it is coming, folks. Do you
see the article that dropped this morning. I don't know
if you saw it. Big question, So is Lebron gonna
come off the bench for Team USA? The pylon begins,
(08:03):
They're coming after the King, you know, the saying from
the wire, you come at the King, you best not miss.
People are now speculating should Lebron come off the bench
for Team USA? This stacked team? I mean, obviously Joel
and Beidle start at center. Right, we got that. You
got Steph Curry is your point guard. Here's the roster
we got on FS one. Probably need Kevin Durant as
(08:26):
your stretch for okay, so that's three spots. Then you
need a lockdown wing defender. Well that's not Lebron, that's
probably Kawhi Leonard, Right, he's healthy allegedly Steve Kerr says
he's healthy. Whatever, And then you'll need like a shooting
guard to fill it up, maybe a d book Anthony Edwards.
You want to get very defensive Drew Holliday. Maybe it's
all matchup dependent when they play France, and oh my gosh,
(08:46):
I can't wait for that game. Gobert and one Ben
Yama are working together right now as a starter for France.
That is an impenetrable back line, and USA will have
to counter with Embid and Anthony Davis probably starting. But
all of this is a way roundabout way of saying, well, shucks,
it should Lebron come off the bench. And you know
(09:07):
there's somebody sitting there stewing, just wait, I'm gonna come
off the bench. Really, you guys are sending me to
Paris so I can come off the bench. You think,
how's Lebron gonna take that? And folks, we're at this
weird space.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
Now.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
We'll get to in depth a little shortly where once
the athletes get near the end, it starts to become
open season on them because the media has been, you know,
ball washing these guys for two decades and now all
of a sudden, it's am Lebron is thirty nine. Now
it's weird because in the eighties, you know, Magic obviously
had to retire early Larry Bird's injuries, he was done
(09:45):
in his early to mid thirties. Isaiah Thomas just up
and retired before he was even thirty five. Jordan quit
two times by well before the age of thirty nine.
So it's like Lebron's playing at third we should be
applauding him and that he's still around and playing at
such a high all NBA level, averaging twenty five, seven
and seven or whatever the numbers are. And now you
(10:07):
guys are trying to drive him to the bench. Listen,
we know that commanding control of a team and the
court and just owning everything is a space of basically
three guys in the NBA right now, three people do
it better than anyone. Anybody could score, anybody can be
a pure point guard, anybody can rebound, but when you've
got somebody who does all those Nikola Jokic, Luka Doncic
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and Lebron James, they're still the three best at totally
controlling all the pieces on the chess board. They've got everything,
manipulating defenses. They're the three best at it. Two of
those guys they're not playing for USA, obviously, and by
the way, Luka Doncic has a seismic battle against Giannis tomorrow.
One of those two teams, Greece or Slovenia will not
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make the Olympics, and I'm sure their NBA coach will
be thrilled that they get a rest in the summer.
But other than Luca and Jokic, who are I think,
like thirteen years twelve thirteen years Lebron's junior. Lebron is
better than anyone on Team USA at manipulating defenses. Steph
Curry has the gravitational pull that you've got to guard
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him on the perimeter. He'll be hitting thirty footers. Okay,
But like Kawhen, Leonard doesn't do the stuff Lebron does.
He's a great defender, and he's a good mid range guy. Okay,
probably great mid range but fine, whatever. Like I like
Jason Tatum a lot, he doesn't do all the things
Lebron does. Although the playmaking was kind of unlocked in
the finals, he looked great, in my opinion, led the
(11:36):
Celtics and assists, But you need Lebron out there. I
cannot envision a scenario where Lebron's coming off the bench
for this team. It would take some big kahonas from
Steve Curtisay, yeah, Lebron, We're gonna go give me the
sixth man in Paris. I don't see a world where
that's happening. I do see a world. Yeah, Lebron's not
the shooter. Kevin Durant is right, and you want to
(11:57):
stretch those defenses. You know, they'll pack the paint in
the Olympics. With the Feebo rules, it's gonna be fascinating.
I don't see a scenario where Lebron comes off the bench,
but certainly it's got to be in play in certain
individual matchups, like I would sooner start Drew Holliday at
the two and have him defend wings, and then I'd
have Lebron in there for offense. But we'll see Steve
(12:19):
Kerr has options. You look at the roster and it's
like this team is stacked. They're loaded, you know, bam Adebayo,
Try's Halliburton. These are end of the bench guys and
they're like top tier dudes in the NBA. There's a
loaded team, and I just it's gonna get weird if
the media starts pushing should Lebron come off the bench?
We already saw one article this morning. I hope we
(12:41):
don't see anymore. So alex USA basketball. I'm fired up
about it. Starts in Vegas. Are you going back to Vegas?
Fass No, no, no, not right now.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
But the interesting thing about these super teams is everyone's
gonna have to put their egos aside right and do
what's best for America. And they have a great leader
and Steve Kerr he's gonna do what's best at that time.
The point is, I mean, he made a point this
morning in one of the articles. He said, if everyone
else is getting better than the US, has to find
ways to do the same right. So whatever it's going
to take in that moment, Steve Kerr is the right
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guy for the job. He is what the most recent
coach of the most recent dynasty that we've had in
the NBA.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
He works with superstars. I'm confident that he'll.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Do the right thing.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
It's just weird to hear is do the right thing
meaning bench Lebron or have him come off to win.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
The right thing is to win gold. That's all that matters.
When you go to the Olympics, you do whatever you
need to do to win gold. You gotta put egos aside.
What is our best chance to win this game right now?
And that's what it has to be.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Fun storyline for USA Training Camp. All right, Coming up next, folks,
two global superstars are kind of on the struggle bus.
Is it the end of the era for our first
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Speaker 3 (14:03):
I've never done this on the show. I'm not a
huge fan of these tiers, but you know, the staff
is like, you got some takes on these tiers. I'm like,
you know it, you know I do. So I went
and broke down all thirty two teams. I put them
in Super Bowl tiers. I have five tiers. So I
guess let's roll the tears. So starting at the bottom
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with absolutely no shot, you got the Denver Broncos a stink,
Patriots awful, New York Giants, dumpster Fire Raiders not very good,
and a bit of a surprise entrant in the Arizona Cardinals,
who I don't think are very good this year. The
schedule is brutal, not a ton of talent. I think
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they're in a wait and see year where it's like
is Kyler Murriar guy. We'll see, but that group is
absolutely no shot at anything. Next up we've got. They
need a prayer. These I think seven teams need a
prayer to get to the playoffs or super Bowl. Started
with the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm sorry, guys. As much as
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I've liked Russell Wilson, it ain't happening. The team is
not very good. Schedules daunting, no thank you. I think
the Bucks take a big step back losing a great
offensive coordinator in Canalis. Listen, it's not a knock on Baker.
I just I don't see it duplicating this year. The
Saints are the team that irked me to no end
last season, folks. I was all in on the schedule, everything.
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I just looked at the off season ranking for offensive lines.
The Saints are thirty second according to one report. Thirty second,
and we know cars stinks under pressure. Saints, They're not
gonna be good. Vikings Alex and I talked about him earlier.
Good team, but they're gonna need a prayer in that division. Washington,
I'm not feeling the hype. Cowhard loves them. I don't
see it. Carolina Panthers the only team in this group
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which kind of has the arrow pointing up. If you
remember last month, we had on a guy Adam turnoff
his group bet the Panthers win total over moved from
four and a half to five and a half. I'm
telling you, Panthers are a by team for me. And
then the Tennessee Titans. They're not very good, but they
got a lot of new pieces. I'll give them the
benefit of the doubt that they're not in that final
bottom group. Mid that's what the young kids like to say,
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how's my fit today? That's mid Dad, not great. That's
how I feel about these teams. Dolphins, they pulled back
a little falcons like, are they that good? They're the
one argument they should be up with higher. Rams obviously
made the playoffs last year. I don't know if Stafford's
gonna stay healthy again. Bears on the uptick. Jags. I
don't know what to make of the Jags, folks. I
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can't put them in a tier higher. They're not lower.
Colts is another team on the uptick. Keep an eye
on the Colts. If Richardson's healthy, they are gonna be
in contentent for a playoff spot. And then Seattle. I
don't know what to do with Seattle wacky season.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
The second tier, which we're calling in the mix for
the Super Bowl is lengthy. Obviously, Buffalo, I know people
are gonna say, wait, wait, Buffalo, why aren't they in
the top I think Alex and I talked about the Ravens.
A lot of people have Ravens in the top. I'm
just telling you Ravens last year obviously a charm season.
They had home home field advantage, Lamar MVP. They lost
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a lot of dudes, offensive line, defensive coordinators gone. There
will be a pullback from the Ravens, folks. I'm just
I'm getting in front of it. I don't know that
they're going to be like a nine win team, but
they will certainly not be the cream of the crop
in the AFC. Eagles I like, and they nearly made
the top list for me. Texans, I can't go all in.
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I know Alex and I talked about him. I can't
put them in the top tier. Cowboys will see they've
got a lot of question marks. Everybody loves the Packers. Now,
the Chargers I think have the lowest win total of
the in the mixed crowd, But I'm just telling you
their schedule is cake. They're here based on the schedule.
And keep an eye on the Browns, who I think
are a little undervalued. Their offensive line returning healthy, it's
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so beat up last year. I like the Browns. And finally,
the top tier, the favorites. Oh yeah, oh yeah, No
York Jets they are there, folks, No Cap forty nine
ers obviously are They're the favorites. The Chiefs are gonna
be in the mix, you know, to win the Super Bowl.
I don't like it, but that's the reality. Detroit Lions
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are very good. They will be knocking on the door.
And yes, the Cincinnati Bungles, who finished last place in
the division last year. And you know, every year somebody
goes worst to first. Now it's a little cheesy to go,
you know, a team with a good record to go
worse to first, but that's what The Bengals were toughest
division in football. I have a lot of notes on
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the Jets. I'm not gonna go too deep here, but
I have them favorite in thirteen of seventeen games. Pro
Football Focus has their offensive line. They were thirty first
last year, their fifth this year because it got so
much better. Obviously, Aaron Rodgers Achilles is everything, but the
offensive line is way better. Pass defense number one in
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the NFL, A guy at ESPN said, the Jets linebackers
graded out as tied with the Niners as the best
in the league. Folks, this team is stacked, ridiculously stacked.
If healthy, and let's just assume health for everybody. I'm
telling you the Jets will be in the mix. We
can make fun of Aaron Rodgers's Egypt nonsense, but I'm
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on record, the Jets will be in the mix. Favorites,
one of the top five, one of the five favorites
to win the Super Bowl, and Vegas guys kind of
sort of agrees with me right there.
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Speaker 3 (20:05):
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a long time, two three decades. He knows everything.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Everything's got a long time. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Obviously he's a Bay Area guy. So we'll get to
the Warriors in a sect. But I got to start
with this piece in The Athletic Today that suggested perhaps
Lebron could come off the bench for Team USA. Start
kd Curry, Embid and you know, a shooting guard to
be named later, and then Kawhi Leonard as your wing.
Your thoughts.
Speaker 8 (20:37):
I can see why you do it. It's the the
idea has been knocked down. But if I'm looking at
this roster and I want to come out with the
best defensive team I can and set the standard, then
I wouldn't start Lebron James. I mean, as I look
across the board, I could make the case that he's
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the worst defender. Taliburton probably gets that award, but Steph.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Curry is a better defender or chugging wing.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
I think Curry puts more into playing defense these days.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Lebron, come on.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
Reality, Look he's thirty nine years old. He still has
to do a lot offensively now. As a playmaker. Again,
this is kind of like depending on who you're going
to start among the guards. This is honestly, I'm looking
at this roster and I don't know who the first
five are because I don't have a problem playing Steph
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off the ball. He does that with the Warriors for
the most part, with Draymond being the being the playmaker.
But if you go play Steph and Drew Holiday together
in the back court, then you're bringing Tyres and Lebron
off the bench. I'm not sure that that quite fits.
There are a lot of questions that Steve curR Is
going to have to answer when it comes to what
the rotation is and when what the combinations are with
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this team. But as I look at, look, Lebron James
at this point is a power forward. So I'm looking
at Bam Autebaio, Anthony Davis, Kevin Durant, all those guys
are playing at the fur Kawhi Leonard probably plays at
the four wait.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
One power forward or point forward.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
But if you well, if you play him at point forward,
then who are you playing? Are you playing Lebron? Then
you're playing Lebron sort of at a three right point forward.
He's playing on the perimeter.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, I mean I would have KD come off the
bench and you have Kawhi as your lockdown defender and
the instead of a stretch for you have a point
forward in Lebron.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Okay, okay, I mean I don't know that Lebron wants
to defend big guys.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
Lebron has to defend big guys. At this point, you
can't defend he can't defend on the wing. You can't
defend on that.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I mean again, you could probably hide him on some
guy from Greece, right or well, Canada. You can't hide anybody,
and you can't hide on anybody in France.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
And that's and that's one of the things that.
Speaker 8 (22:55):
As we look at this roster, like I would expect
Team USA to be favored, but I don't think by
any means that it's going to be a cake walk
and it hasn't been for years, and so that's where
if Lebron's going to give you an advantage coming off
the bench, I mean, we can look at it as
demeaning or we can look at it as like you
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could be a huge X factor coming off the bench,
because who's going to have a player of Lebron's caliber
coming off the bench? Yeah, psychologically it could be a
huge I.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Don't know, just putting egos aside for some of these
veteran guys like Kadi, Lebron and Curry's gonna be kind
of interesting. You know, this is obviously their last go round.
And let's be real, Lebron has had a rough month,
wouldn't you agree. I mean, he takes heat forgetting his
his podcasting buddy as a coach. He takes heat for
the Lakers drafting Bronnie. He says he's going to take
less and then nobody wants to come so he gets
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the max right, And it's like, I don't know, it
feels like it's been a bit of a rough month.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
Say that, Yeah, it has been a rough month, But
hasn't he been the architect of all that? I mean,
I'm just saying like it's not isn't somebody who's done
these things to him. Yeah, JJ is his guy, Bronnie
is his son. These are things that he wanted to
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see happen by all intents and purposes. So like, yeah,
as far as the free agents are concerned, Buddy Heald
is the big surprise to me. Like when he says,
I want to win, and so I'm going.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
To go to the Warriors.
Speaker 8 (24:27):
Like Warriors aren't exactly like leaps and bounds ahead of
the Lakers when it comes to what their potential.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Is for next year.
Speaker 8 (24:35):
So I uh, that surprised me in a sense that
he would say that that was the reason that he
went there.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Well, okay, so let's go to Buddy Heield goes to
the Warriors basically for nothing, what a second round take
in twenty thirty one or some nonsense. Yeah, but here's
a question. He's starting for the Warriors. He would not
have started over Di Low or Austin Reeves for the Lakers.
Speaker 8 (24:55):
Right, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Guess so he probably wants to just go He's gonna
get shots because then the Sixers. Do you remember against
the Knicks, he was like buried on the bench until
the end of the series.
Speaker 8 (25:06):
He's look, I'm not a big believer in Buddy Healed.
At this point, I'm more excited about Kyle Anderson going
there and d Anthony Melton than I am Buddy Heel. Huh,
Because Kyle Anderson IQ wise playing the four spot, he
was going to fit in with the Warriors.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
He's going to give them a big boost.
Speaker 8 (25:24):
And I think the Minnesota Timberwolves are going to miss
Kyle in terms of just his basketball IQ and his
ability to affect the game without the ball. The Anthony
Melton is a three and D D Meltain, I think
he's a nice addition. If Heal's making shots, he's great.
But there's been too many times. And one of the
reasons he got buried with Philadelphia was because he had
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open shots and he started getting gunshots because when he misses,
he's suddenly like ah, And I'm like, you're out there
for one reason to make threes and if you're not
taking him, you have zero chance of making them.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Do you think they can replace Clay in the aggregate
with Buddy Healed and Melton?
Speaker 8 (26:06):
Yes, I do based on what we saw from Clay
last year. You know, is Buddy gonna make the wide
open shots that Clay was missing because that was the
thing for me is that defensively Clay is not the same.
But offensively, what was shocking is that the number of
threes that he missed where he was wide open, that
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is what he has left. I don't know whether it's
the dynamics of the Warriors. We'll see if it makes
a difference with Dallas. The difficulty with Dallas is and
this is the growth that Luka Dancis has to have.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
It can be difficult.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
You know there was times where the supporting cast for
Dallas last year in the playoffs missed a ton of threes.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Right.
Speaker 8 (26:51):
Well, the challenge is when you are a role player
and you're a floor spacer and you don't know when
the ball has come and you know ever touch it.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
Until it's swung to you, and now you got to shoe.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Then you got to shoe.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
That's difficult as opposed to you touch it early and
it comes back and you know that they're looking at
that Lucas looking to get you.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
A shot, then you're ready.
Speaker 8 (27:14):
But if you're standing there for like twelve seconds, am
I gonna get it?
Speaker 6 (27:18):
Am I gonna? I don't know if I'm gonna get it?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Oh, no, I got it.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
I gotta make it. That is a challenge. So we'll
see how well Clay adjusted that.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
You're giving me shades of myself and my men's league.
I set screens and I take open threes, and but
I don't get the ball for four possessions and then
I get it. It's going up right, It's forever, it's
going on.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
Oh yeah, No, that's.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Gonna be the case with Clay MAV's top team in
the West.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
I do not have them as a top team in
the West. I understand what you know. People are gonna say, Hey,
they just went to the finals, so they should be
the top team I and people are gonna are gonna laugh.
And I'm making this big of a deal about about
Kyle Anderson. I like Minnesota's basketball IQ overall. I it
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wasn't as high as it needs to be. I believe
in the growth of Anthony Edwards. I think he's going
to be better. I think Carl Anthony, I think that
whole team is going to be better as a result
of their experience. So Minnesota, for me, Oklahoma City with
the addition of Isaiah Hartenstein, I don't think there is
a favorite in the Western Conference Finals.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
It's a take.
Speaker 8 (28:25):
I just Dallas is in the mix, but they came
on at the at the end of the year, right,
let's see. And I feel like Derek Lively and PJ. Washington,
some of those guys kind of got exposed a little
bit in the finals.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
I want to see the growth.
Speaker 8 (28:42):
That's that to me is I mean, we have a
whole new legion of contenders now and we're gonna see
which which teams among them Minnesota, Oklahoma City, Dallas. I
feel like Denver. I think the stan Kronky And we've
seen in this before in other sports. Yeah, like he
goes a ring and then he gets conservative financially yea.
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And we saw it with the Rams with great point.
We're seeing with the Denver Nuggets.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
One more team in the West, Golden State Warriors. So
lowry marketing apparently is on the trade market. We don't
know if Danny Age is gonna ship him. Apparently the
Spurs are interested. Let's say he goes to the Warriors. Yep,
a, are you giving up kuminga to get marketed? And then
you're gonna have to pay him like forty five a
year and then b do you think he makes them
like instead of a play in team, like a top
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six in the West.
Speaker 8 (29:31):
Top six is uh, could be, could be, could be
in that five to six range with marketing. The problem
with Kaminga is you have to play through him and
you have to play a completely different way. And this
is the problem that the Warriors have had, is that
they have tried to move in two different directions. They've
tried to retain being contenders playing with Steph and Dre
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and the system that they've played, and then they've tried
to develop Kaminga plays an entirely different way. He doesn't
fit into their system, and so you've been at cross
purposes and you really haven't accomplished either one. So in
my mind, marking in as A as a stretch four
and it fits much better in terms of we're going
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to try to take one more crack at it with
Steph and Andre than with Kaminga.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
I just he's a great talent.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
He hasn't proved to me that he can be the guy,
and so yeah, I was supposed to do right by
and keep in mind you probably have to do right
by Steph and Draymond since Clay is out the door. Yeah, like,
let's throw them a bone. Let's go get a guy
who fits better with the way they play than trying
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to accommodate the young guys.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
I wonder though, that the luxury tax I think you
saw the numbers the Clippers and Warriors paid it each
of the last four years, both of them currently not
in the luxury tax this year, which may say that
the owners are like, Hey, I'm not doing it out
of a take. I'm not going a long on it,
but I'll just float it is Steph Curry on the
Warriors at the beginning of the twenty five twenty sixtys.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
Yes he's retiring as let's not even this. This is
what Lebron has has introduced. Yet we now talk about
every player, every star player who's won a championship. It's
now your team is either putting you in contention or
you have to go someplace else.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
Yeah, because you should be in contention every year.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I don't want to see Seph Curry win he thirty
five games.
Speaker 8 (31:37):
But that it's not realistic that you all these guys
are running to find a team that's going to put
them in contention if their team's not putting them in contention,
especially with this with these new salary cap rules.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
It's just not realistic.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
I mean, we've we continue to do this like we're doing.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
It with the Lakers.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
How Come the Lakers haven't made any moves to like
to put them into contention.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
They've done it for the last three four years.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
They went to the playoffs four out of the last
five years, and only this past year did Anthony Davis
and Lebron James play seventy plus games. I look at
what the Lakers have done over the last five years,
and I think.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
Most people would go this has been a disappointment. Only
one championship.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
I'm like, what are you talking about a title? You
won a.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
Title, your two best players have been most of the
time unavailable because of injury, and you still went to
the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
Four out of five years.
Speaker 8 (32:33):
Like we're the We're just so unrealistic when it comes
to Lebron and the Lakers these days.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Speaking of unrealistic, I made a top ten list of
the ten best players in the NBA. I had kd
at ten, then I bumped him for Embiid. I'm sure
people are not gonna like it, but Kadi's eight business
partner went on Instagram and was like this is gross,
blah blah blah. How could you do that about your thing? Yeah, okay, listen,
I don't know. Let's start here. Is Kevin de Rant
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a top ten player in the league right now, right now?
I don't care what he did three years ago or
two right.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
Now, this is yours. This is your list right here.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Correct. So Eddie House took shots at me, Amic did
not like one and two. There's some issues with Tatum
at four, Where's Jalen Brown? Where's Ad? Bruns are too high?
But I'm just mostly curious about the Kevin Durant angle.
Speaker 8 (33:21):
Yeah, I mean he has to be if Lebron is
still elite, then KD has to still be elite because
the numbers are are.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Well, the scoring numbers are comparable.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
Actually, uh KD scores.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah, KAD might be at twenty seven and Lebron's at
twenty five whatever, but the assists are down a little
bit for KD. I just maybe it's the fit in
Phoenix is clunky. I don't he just see he got
swept in the first round and we're talking trash to him.
Make it was like it's not your league anymore.
Speaker 8 (33:51):
But here's the other part, Like and I can't emphasize
this enough, like Lebron is not. I mean, I'm looking
at this list here, he's the worst.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I know it's clear you and Lebron have a checker.
I'm just saying, this.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Is my value is let's account for two way players.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
That's very fair.
Speaker 8 (34:14):
We we we always rank them on the offensive numbers,
and it doesn't give enough credence to I mean, it's
probably why I wouldn't have Luca at the at the
top of that list. I'd probably have shake Gilgess Alexander
a lot higher as a result of that, because of
his his ability is a two way player. Anthony Edwards
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has all the talent in the world. I don't think
he can orchestrate the game the way any of these
ten guys do.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
I think he's the youngest on this list.
Speaker 8 (34:47):
Yeah, and so look, it's it's tough right now because
I look at the NBA and like, we don't like,
who's the face of the league right now, we don't
have that definitive.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
Making a top ten is going.
Speaker 8 (35:03):
To be debatable because I think we're in this transitional
point of the KDS and the Lebron's and the staffs
are turning the corner and heading for home. And then
we have the European players like Jokic and Doncic who
are dominant offensive players but obviously not the same at
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the defensive end. And then the American players like like,
I don't even know who the next contending face American
faces to be the face of the league.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Well, the problem with the Celtics is they win the
CHIP and they're alleged best player. Tatum doesn't get the
conference finals player the final Conference finals now, and then
the finals MVP goes to Jalen Brown too, So it
is You're right, it's.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Such a mixed bag right now.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Can we have Anthony Edwards win more than two playoff
series before we declare him the face of the NBA?
Speaker 6 (35:56):
That was way premature.
Speaker 8 (35:58):
That's why I just hated when everybody was making the
Michael Jordan comparisons. Yeah that was from a physical standpoint. Okay,
I see that, But there's just so much more to
the game than that.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Yeah, all right, we could wrap up with Paul George
and Embiid the last couple of summers, Rick we've seen
Damian Lilla goes to the Bucks. Oh put make them
the favorite Bradley Beal to the Sons, you know, gotta
love it and wherever Paul George goes, apparently you're supposed
to automatically win a.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
Chip, even though even though he's never done that anymore.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Correct, shocking? Where are you on the six Ers in
this move? Obviously they're gonna be good.
Speaker 8 (36:29):
But yeah, look, they had to make it. They had
to make this move in order. It's the only move
they could have made where they you could make the
case that they are keeping stride with the New York
Knicks and the Boston Celtics, and they had the cap
room to do it. So it makes perfect sense. But
I'm if we're talking about title contention, title contending teams
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as we've seen with the Boston Celtics, as we've seen
with teams over the course of the last four or
five years, it's about your depth and versatility. I've never
really bought into the Big three concept in terms of
that's what you need to be a championship team, and
that's what they are right now.
Speaker 6 (37:09):
Like who's their fourth best player, Paul Reid, Kelly Kelly Oubray.
Speaker 8 (37:14):
And then you look at Boston, and you look at
New York and uh, and you look at Oklahoma City
and like Minnesota, like.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
They all go four or five six players deep. And
to me, that's what you need if you were going
to play for a time.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
One hundred percent agree, all right, great stuff, Rick Beeger,
what is your stuff? Great stuff?
Speaker 6 (37:33):
You know you said one hundred percent we agree.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Agree, Yeah, very right.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Write that down, Write that down, clip that shot. I
do not know that that's happened before. Because it's a
good day.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I'm taking your time off after this.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
He's on vacation.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
He's got to recover.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
He's like, yeah, what say's great?
Speaker 3 (37:51):
That's all right.
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