July 8, 2024 • 53 mins
2 Pros & a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knox fill in for Colin discussing Bronny James' debut with the Lakers and what the offseason means for LeBron James and the Lakers. They look at the AFC North and why Joe Burrow could be in the perfect position to win Comeback Player of the Year. Plus, they examine the new look Bears with number 1 overall pick Caleb Williams and trying to return to the playoffs for the first time since 2020
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
Oooh yeah it is. It is the Herd here on
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around the country. Where wow, how you are. We appreciate
you making us a part of your Monday morning. And
it's a Monday following a long ass Fourth of July weekend,
thank goodness, with people still recovering, most notably our executive
producer Lee to Lap, who is kind of ing he's
(01:14):
in the midst of the He's.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
In a state. He's in a state right now.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
How's he doing midst of a battle? You know, he's
in a battle. He's a he's in a twelve round
slug fest with his lower intestines, trying to figure out
how he can't save himself and the rest of the studio. Lee,
are you going to be able to get through this
or what what's going on here?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
We're gonna make it through, to get through this together.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
I am curious though, I mean, we did see the
hotsog getting contest, but that actually the lemonade drinking contest.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Told the stage, Oh god, people got to stop giving up.
The ghost wasn't enough, said the guy threw up everything
he'd eaten since he was five years old because he
shugged a gallon of lemonade. And people are standing there
like it's go anywhere though, Just how you throw up
your whole life, it's just normal.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I'm still It looked like he was still holding on
what he think.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
He is like a pool floating. I don't knows.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
He'll be all right.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
He speaking fast for the next six months. He'll be
all right. Everything's gonna be okay. But nonetheless, we are
off and running here on a Monday morning, and I'm
just noticing last care you know, I'm noticing a trend here.
How come like nobody's playing with the Lakers now, like
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nobody wants to. I don't know, I'm just I was
looking around. I see DeMar DeRozan is the latest. I'm
seeing Klay Thompson. Like, now I know why everyone was
trying to feed you these garbage stories about well you
the father son, the last name. No, the reason why
they drafted Brownie James because they couldn't get anybody else
to them. So I think that's really the reason here,
(03:05):
because it looks like whatever the plan was going into
this offseason, everybody's going elsewhere. Everybody's going elsewhere. And now
Brownie James has got a swollen knee and was kept
out of the second NBA Summer League game, and then
he had You know, LeVar was blown away with his
two for nine shooting in his first Summer League.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
No, that was away. Yeah, he looked amazing out there,
and text text tech I was I was being sarcastic, okay,
because you know what responded back, I was like, there
is a I watched it.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
I watched it. He struggled, which that's nothing new if
you've seen this game. But look, he's a young player.
He's got time to develop. He needs to be out
there playing though it's it's tough when you're not healthy,
you can't be out there getting better. But it was
exactly what he was defined to be as a prospect.
He struggles shooting. I mean, he couldn't even make a
(03:58):
couple of free throws. But you saw, you know, the
way I leave at least athletically, how he can attack,
how he will try to play defense. The problem is,
the more time we see him, especially in you know,
defensively speaking, he's going to struggle, Like he's going to
struggle being able to switch on screens because you can't
match up with guys or going to be seven eight
nine ten inches taller than him, and that's unfortunately the
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position that he's going to be in often being what
six one and a half or whatever he was at
the NBA Combine.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, he moved around pretty good. He just couldn't make
a shot. You know, maybe that's nerves. He missed some
free throws. I mean, listen, we've gotten through the initial
you know, he he's gotten drafted. Everybody falls on there
certain sides of it. I've gotten attacked for saying what
I've said about if you say, if you said apparently
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if you say anything outside of it's a great pick
at fifty five that you're a hater and and and
not only did I get he's a hater, but I
guess I am not as good as dead as Lebron
is and and my son isn't as good player as is.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
That's I've gotten it all. I gotten it all, which
is okay, It's okay. I don't have any milice in
my heart or any type of hate towards Lebron James
or Bronnie James. I just felt like, honestly speaking, if
we're shooting straight, I think we all know what the
storyline is. And that's that's that's connected to the draft.
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Now fast forward to the Summer League. There were questions
as to whether he was going to even participate, which
would make it a first ever in the history of
the Summer League that a draft d did not participate,
but he did so they got one game out of
the way, so regardless of a banged up knee or
whatever it may be as to why he may not
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play again or play at all the rest of the
summer league. He knocked down one game. Let's let's say
that his movement was good. It did not look as
though he did not belong He'd looked like which I
didn't think initially seeing him out there, that he would
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look like he belonged in an NBA uniform.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I was wrong. He looked like he belonged. It just
looked as though.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
He had And be clear, more than any other rookie
out there, name one rookie that had the weight of
the world of their shoulders that Brownie James did going
into their first Summer League games. So, I mean, if
you expected him to be a world beater going into it,
with the type of pressure he's had on him, that
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would have been best case scenario. Worst case scenario, maybe
he misses all his shots. Okay scenario meaning you know,
it wasn't a failure. It wasn't a great success. It
just wasn't a failure either was what he did, which
is that should be on par for what it was.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
And good for him. He's out of the gates. He's
out of the block. So Lebron spoke recently with David Minimum,
the Lakers reporter, and just kind of. According to his dad,
Bronnie doesn't share these same feelings about criticism that his
dad once did.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
I don't know if people really understand Bronnie. He doesn't care.
I actually cared a little bit when I came in.
I wanted people to like like me, and some of
the things that people were saying about me kind of
bothered me early on in my career. I let it
get to me. Ronnie doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't. He
does not care about nobody's he doesn't even listen to
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that stuff. He's like the complete opposite of his dad.
His dad will say something, yeah, Bronnie does not care
like me personally. When I was coming up, I had
no choice. I literally had no choice. I had to
make it out. I had no choice. I had to
make it out for me, my mom, my family. Ronnie
has all the choices in the world. So it's like
a whole other people don't understand how hard dad is
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in the commitment for him to be coming out of
heart surgery less than a year ago, for him to
be a to be in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
That's the kid is.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
He's special, but he doesn't care. He doesn't.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
It doesn't it doesn't bother.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
I dig where he's coming from and and for what
it's worth in twenty twenty four, I don't. I don't
think that it's measured or weigh the same anymore in
terms of haves and have nots. A kid that has
nothing and absolutely nothing and has to try to make
it by playing basketball, playing a sport or whatever it
may be, versus a kid who comes from privilege and
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has it all and happens to have one of the
greatest basketball players that ever play the game on on
the planet as as a father. I don't think and
Gilbert Reenus and a couple guys had this conversation before.
I don't think that there's a discrepancy between the two,
to be honest, other than other than if the kid
that doesn't have anything going for himself in terms of family,
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wealth and resources, they have to figure it out. But
you know what, a kid like Bronni James, he has
to figure it out if it doesn't go well at
the same time, so they're both facing the same thing,
which is themselves.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
You got to put in the work. Are you putting
in the work, are you getting the development? Are you
being what you need to be? So I get where
he's coming from. Ma Man's a lot like that. Man
Man doesn't care what people He doesn't care what people
say about him.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
I did. I cared about what people said. They said
that I was undisciplined, or they said that I didn't study.
It upset me. I was called an athlete much of
my career. It upset me because it's like, why can't
I gain and garner the respect of someone who's a
student of the game. I was one of the biggest
students of the game because I was a fan of
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the game, so I always wanted to understand it. So
it bothered me when people said things about me. Man
Man's like, like, here's what it is. So I get
where he's coming from. And I think a lot of
that has to do with the way he's raised. He's
raised by a guy that has gone through it at
the upper level of it all and and now here
they are, so I think I think.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
That's part of it. I think the other difference is,
like we grew up through an age where you didn't
have it. The reality is today's athlete cannot hide from
criticism because they're going to hop on social media. Everyone's
got it. They've got to have it for marketing or
business opportunities, to connect to their fan base, whatever the
case is, so you can't avoid it. And and all
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of you said, all of what you said is true.
But I think on top of that, it's just the
day and age for these athletes is they are so
accustomed to the criticism that comes with a cesspool that
is social media that they've got thicker stin. They're more
callous than I think people realize because when when I
mean when we were coming up, man, like when social
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media came out, We're like, dude, where all these guys
talking trash, We're got to fight them? Like that's that's
the kind of reaction you had to it because it
was so new to you. And get granted, it was
also probably back in the day and age where people
did get in a lot of fights, but they kind
of buried. It wasn't as big of a deal nowadays
that there's a like lawsuits involved everything else. I just
think it's a different era. It's a different era of
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athlete nowadays where they have to be able to be
mentally tough enough to endure social media, the good and
the bad. I mean as much as I'm talking about
the negative of it, there's also the build up where
social media can build people up to be, you know,
the best of the best, the greatest ever, all those
conversations over just one season, and you're like, no, wait
(11:34):
a second, Like we've watched some of these guys in
the past and do it for a series of years,
you know, Tom Brady for two decades. You know. I
think there's just a difference in the way younger athletes
today now perceive themselves and social media and their own image,
and I think they're just better mentally prepared for everything
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that being a professional athlete brings. Now even I guess
even college, but that's kind of a professional athlete anyway.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Nowadays. I mean, you just got to do what I do.
What's that all right? Just have such a low opinion
of yourself that whatever anybody else says, yeah, whatever, that
has ten dollars. That's the truth. That's passive aggressive. It's
not passive aggressive.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
It's the truth putting yourself down knowing that on the
other side of it, you're like, man, I am the
sexiest mofo A.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Laugh, Brady? You Brady? Is you you think you are?
It's the difference.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
I mean, I way I had.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I thought I was going to be interested in watching
Brownie James actually play, and then I saw a couple
of highlights. I mean, the fact that we were to
find a couple of highlights is impressive, but I sawghlights.
I have no interest in watching and playing the Summer
League because I look at it like it's like a
buddy that you know is not funny and he tries
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stand up comedy, like he doesn't open mic night, and
you're like, I don't even want to go because he's
going to find out real quick he doesn't qualify to
be on that stage, and like, I don't want to
watch him go through and struggle and take because anybody
that's got an issue with Bronnie James has an issue
with lebron James. And that's really where this is coming from.
And he's never done anything to where I'm like, well, yeah,
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like he went out and said I should be a
draft pick, I should be this, Like he threw his
name in the hat. He probably understood what the situation was,
but you've never heard him do anything really wrong or
anything that should be criticized other than just having the
same last name. And who his dad is. So I
look at it and I go, I don't even want
to watch Man because we know how this is going
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to go. So let's just fast track it. Let's get
to the good part of the story. And let's just
go to the part in the regular season where him
and Lebron are on the same team together, and maybe
Lebron assists him on an on an open jump shot.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
He moves well enough where I could actually see him
in a regular season game now.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
For how long?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
For how long?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I don't know. He missed the second game because he's
got a knee swelling. We're off to start, you know
what I mean? Can we just season?
Speaker 5 (14:03):
I think y'all be thinking I'm glass half empty, which
I am. I'm going glass half for today, y'all, y'all
are you?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (14:11):
You too? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Y'all. Well, you know you didn't say I'm a hater,
per se. You just said that, you know.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Also, can we pause because you did bring up man
Man earlier for this audience here at the Herd. You know,
I don't know that they know the backstory of the
nickname Man Man. Who Man Man is?
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Man Man is LeVar Arrington? The second second, Yeah, he
committed to Penn State. He's going to go play linebacker
edge at Penn State.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Dammit, yeah yeah, baby, But he's got a lie.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
I just did an interview on him this morning and
and it's like nobody knows who he is. Like they're
they're trying there. There's all these interviews request because it's like,
is he being overvalued? Is he being undervalue? What's his value?
And the recruiting, the recruiting process, what what what's his worth?
And it's like, is that something that you guys talk
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about you think about? I said, that's one hundred percent
something that we thought about going into it. Man man
hasn't done any camps, He hasn't done any seven on sevens.
All he's done is is unofficial visits. That's it in
the end, his official visits. And the reason being is
we we had the opportunity a couple of times to
possibly take them out and send them to a bigger school.
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Modern Day was a school that we were thinking about
doing it. But we love the development and the guidance
of the head coach Dom Ferrar that he's under now.
And we felt as though him being under the radar
because of his name, him being man man, so everybody
calls him man, so he wasn't being called LeVar. It's
like LaVar, LeVar, LeVar if it's football terms. It was
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he was man, So nobody really knew who he was
until he started to getting recruited, which it worked perfectly
because it kept him humble, it kept them hungry, and
he was aware of the fact that he was going
to have to earn everything that he got. He didn't
start get recruited until this past year, like right right now,
his junior year, going through his junior year. Generally, if
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you're a top guy, you'll start getting recruited like eighth
ninth grade. So he's gone through the process the right way.
So that's why I'm saying I can relate to the
whole conversation with Lebron and Brownie at this point because
I do have a second as well, and that's a heart.
It's a hard place to be in and you'll see
Q and you'll see Jonas. When your boy gets bigger,
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you start to have different types of emotions and feelings
about what their accomplishments, what their achievements are, because you
have to balance being a father, but you're also balancing
trying to train them to be successful and there in
the ways that they go about the their lives and
how they prepare. But then there's the fan, and you
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should always be your kid's biggest fan. So it's like
you have to find the balancing point of not putting
yourself in danger of being delusional, because you could actually
be so delusional that your kid ends up being delusional.
So I've I've always fallen on the other side of it.
I've been pretty hard on them. I've been pretty hard
on him, and listen, I feel like it's working so
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and I'm sure Lebron feels the same exact way about
how he's approached what he's doing with Brownie. And for
for better or for worse, for whatever anybody may think,
the guy guided his kid to a La Lakers jersey.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
However he got there, he got there. He's an l
A Lakers Jersey.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Yeah, man, I do. It's coming to some point.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
They right to hijack the plane.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Oh since eleven they stole they stole Pick fifty five, right,
I mean, we got here. I'm a pilot too. It
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Speaker 2 (18:18):
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Speaker 3 (18:26):
Appnazzas huh uh did you know about that? On the
ones and twos? You got problems?
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Man?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
That's nostradamis.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Man.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Just just so you're clear on that.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Shouts out to everybody out there that's a true hip
hop fan that knows you know, that's that's nasty nas
right there.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Man.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Oh, Brady used to call me knoxtra dovis. What would's different?
It's a different.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Actually, never ever in the history of my life have
called you that.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
You never said that. Are you trying to sit here?
Speaker 4 (18:58):
You're so bad at better dad? I Actually, it's just
it's almost the exact opposite.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Complete disrespect here on this shows. You're talking about nos
nostradamis whatever nostradomis. It is a predictor. It is the Herd.
Here on Fox Sports Radio, it's LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn,
Jonas Knox in for Colin. Coming up here in about
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twenty minutes from now, We're going to tell you about
how somebody who has already made a claim, they have
already made a claim that you will never see this
ever again in the world of sports. We will investigate
that claim. Coming up here again about twenty minutes from now. Hey,
you know who's just kind of sitting back ready for
the NFL season, just rehabbing for him too and them?
(19:48):
Oh okay, Old Joe Burrow, is he waiting? The Boogeyman
of Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs. Was in
a fashion show. He was had He had an interesting
look going on.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Don't hate hey, just because he likes things outside of football.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
The back was blowing out of his of his shirt,
you know what I mean, That's what That's what I
remember from the pitch. Hey, when that happened. I bet
it's a hey when that happens. But Joe Burrow was bad.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
It was spinal.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
There was no back to his shirt. Joe Burrow did
talk recently about how having an injury means that for
some reason people kind of, you know, lose touch with
who you are and who you were as a player.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Do you think people have forgotten about Joe Burrow?
Speaker 7 (20:36):
I believe that that's what happens when you get hurt.
Though you don't play football, people forget about you. But again,
that's part of the game. You don't If you're not
out there and people aren't watching you, then there's nothing
to talk about. Yeah, so I'm gonna get people to
talk about something to talk about this year.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Well, I'm excited about it. So that was on part
of my take Joe Burrow talking about having an opportunity
to come back this year coming off an injury, and
I did by the way I did see did he
took the Brady Quinn approach back when you were playing
you tried to learn piano. Joe Burrow's doing the same
thing there, bradyr Yeah, that was a little different approach,
though he was doing it more from a rehab purpose.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Maybe I was just trying to rehab my mind at that.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Point, but you was trying to add something to that
arsenal And then good, look you pulled that smile out,
that that hair.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yeah, them keys, No I feel.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
I mean walk into the room like Burt Backerag you
started playing the piano.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
I wish I could have just walked up like I
wanted to learn how to play guitar, so I could
be sitting next to you, you know, like the ugly
dudes could get away with being sexy when they played guitar. Real, Well,
you played it, you know, you play the keys, you know. Yeah,
I was incapable of learning that. Me too, Me too,
So join the club work. Well, you can't have it all,
you know what I mean. I guess we go back
really to the to the the clip. That's what I
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would to point on one thing in the quote.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
That he says, Yeah, let's hear it again.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Do you think people have forgotten about Joe Burrow?
Speaker 7 (21:55):
I believe that that's what happens when you get hurt.
Though you don't play football, people forget about you. But again,
that's part of the game. You don't If you're not
out there and people aren't watching it, then there's nothing
to talk about. Yeah, so I'm gonna get people to
talk about something to talk about this year.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Well, I'm excited about it.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Did it sound like he needed to burp or he
had like a little bitat Yeah, he was holding on
to it a little bit, like you're trying to make
this big statement. But you know sometimes like you eat
right before one of those interviews and then you're like indigestion,
something to think about, you know, like you're not saying
it like yeah, something to think about, man, you know,
like a little more a little more masking, a little
more manly son like it like maybe a little indigestion that.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Like our president a little bit. But anyway, that's come on,
we are on Fox.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
But I will say this.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
We just talked about this in the first segment. And
to answer your question, yes, you disc out like there
was something going on there for a moment, but people
do forget about you.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
And and it's funny because we're gonna have news trending
and we're on here about you know, like you said,
one of the legends saying what he had to say
about dying. But we live in such a more recency
effect uh society. As you highlight it through social media
and what people are are really into. You can lose
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relevance in one season. You can lose it in one
season because of how much information is disseminated and put
out there. Within one season, you could lose your career
over one thing that takes place in social media. So
if you're not around, there's somebody that's going to fill
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in that blank, you know, And that's that's I think
that that's what joe Burrow is talking about. It used
to just be you felt like a ghost in the facility,
But now because things happen so so quickly in social
media and how news.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Is distributed now, it's it's very different. It's very, very very.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Competitive being able to maintain being a main a main
stay guy, a main stay name, especially if you get
an injury that holds you out for and extend the
amount of time.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
There's only two teams that are bigger favorites to make
the playoffs than the Cincinnati Bengals, and it's the Chiefs
and the forty nine ers. So you know what that means.
Joey Burrow, He's in contention for the MVP, he's in
contention for Comeback Player of the Year, and the Bengals
are gonna win that division. That's what that tells me.
So get ready all this Baltimore Raven fanboy crap. It's over.
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Cincinnati's taken over that division. The AFC North is there,
and you can book that n put that in your
nostri smoke it.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I'm not against that take for this reason because I
do think Burrow is special. If he's healthy, I do
think there's cause for concern though, right. I mean, the
interesting part about hearing the clip on hey, he's doing
piano to help with his rehab is how many guys
do you here have a wrist injury that do piano
to help with the rehab. Now, granted, he's a thrower,
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so it's different, and his rehab is going to be
more or unique than most athletes that have a risk injury,
but this seems pretty unique. This seems like one where
from the onset of the injury and even the recovery
the timetable, it feels like he's gonna be battling through
some things to get back to his old self or
maybe to get back to playing at a really, really
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high level as his new normal. So I think they're
set up to have success if he's gonna be back
byd Center, because I just think he'll find a way.
He's that good of a player. What concerns me though,
is the competition the rest of the division. I mean,
you could say whatever you want about Baltimore, but I
think Cleveland to me is the team that if I
had to put money on it right now, they're gonna
win the division. That's one of the best rosters in
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the NFL. Deshaun Watson's had plenty of time to get
down Kevin Staphansi's his offense, and even if he can't,
even if he just manages guides the team, that's enough
for that defense, that ground attack with Nick Chubb coming
back healthy, that's enough to be able to get it done.
I think they're then in Pittsburgh. I mean Pittsburgh obviously,
(26:02):
we've talked about this a bunch and LeVar, I know
you're not as high on them as I am. But
if they get Russell Wilson from what he did last year,
that's a playoff team. With Russell Wilson at starting at quarterback.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Yeah, I think they're a playoff team. I just don't
think they're I don't think they're. I think they're second
third in the North.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
So here.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
So here's what I'll ask you is what were the
Bengals ranked last year Defensively?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
They were probably pretty good.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Thirty first, No, thirty first in total defense.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Well so dang, going too far with a thirty first
ranked defense.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
And and look we could chalk that up to hey,
they playing with the backup quarterback. With that being said,
Jake Browning did a hell of a job last year
as he kept that team in it. He bawled out
and I know Jonas is gonna talk about something else.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
What do you mean, what do you get in?
Speaker 4 (26:52):
I'm not I'm not going down that direction.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
It was a white aut of the game. What do
you want. He had the best press box in the league.
I'll just say that.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Tang. Okay, there it was.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I mean, he's not lying. He ain't lying.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
The point is it's not like you back didn't step up?
Was it was it? Indy?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Was it football?
Speaker 4 (27:16):
All right?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
So so bratty, you're telling me, you like, if you
were to look at a team to win the division,
that Cleveland would be the team that you would look at.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
That would be based on the odds right now, So
which is which? Usually you have those at the tip
of your at the tip of your top.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Six to one plus six hundred to win the division
or the Cleveland Browns that's crazy to me, because here's
the thing.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
If that holds true, if that holds true, I think,
I think, look, what are you doing. I think that
that the Steelers are are a mid tier team. I
don't think that they're a divisional winner this year. I
think they're mid tier. So they're second or third. So
if if if you and and betting, if you guys
(27:58):
a betting people have the Cleveland Brown's winning it, then
that means to me. That means to me that since
he and the Steelers are are fighting for four, well,
so Baltimore is the favorite to win the division. I
think they're going to win the division.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Cincinnati's right behind them, and then you've got pretty far
back or Cleveland at plus six hundred, and then Shittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
I feel like Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
I feel like Pittsburgh falls into that second space and
then Cincinnati and Cleveland fight it out for that third
and and I don't I don't say that as it's
a it's a no, it's not a successful season for
Cleveland or Cincinnati. I'm just saying I think that Pittsburgh
and Baltimore, if if history serves serves correctly outside of recency,
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that you you're looking out of Baltimore team that should
be better, and you're looking out a Pittsburgh team that
should be good enough.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
They've always been. They've been good enough as of late.
That's what I'll say. I'm not gonna say they're good.
They're they're they're good to win the division. I think
they're good enough to be at that second and third
spot in the North. Let me ask you has a question?
All right, and this is a little bit in the weeds,
but there's nothing else going on me who cares jump?
All things being equal, Aaron Rodgers and Joe Burrow have
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pretty similar seasons and their teams have bounced back years.
Who do you think it's comeback player of the year.
I think it'll be Joe Burrow because I think it's
going to be Aaron Rodgers. I think it's going to
be Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Because they've got more prime time games, and so if
he does have that, it's gonna be more.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
You're looking at me, funny like you look at it.
That doesn't mean they're going to win. That doesn't mean
they're going to win. That was gonna be time permitted.
That was gonna be my other question, Who's because I
know we're gonna go into that's gonna get Coach of
the Year. I was Brady, uh and, and only Brady
can answer this. I was just gonna ask him, like,
(30:03):
who's LeVar a bigger hater of Aaron Rodgers or Lebron James?
Like it's a three horse race.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Russ is probably number one. I don't like to think
that LaVar is a hater of than you. He just
stands on his opinion, thank you. But I would say
number one as far as him being critical of it
would be Russell's number two. I mean, are we throwing
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Lebron in there? If you want to throw the Lebron
would be number two, and then number three. I don't
think he's even actually critical of Rogers. He's critical the Jets.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
That's very correct. That's that is wow. It's like he
knows me, man, I do, Man, that is very true.
I'm critical.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Here's my question to you, though, Have you not received
backlash from Jets fans?
Speaker 6 (30:58):
No?
Speaker 4 (30:58):
I just remember a couple of years ago I got
everything from I think Wilson. Thing wasn't gonna work out,
and no one wanted to listen, which I do respect
the fact they defended Zach Wilson, who was the quarterback
at the time, and I got nothing against Zach Wilson.
I just felt like he needed a lot of time
to develop before he was gonna be what they expected
him to be, which honestly, he played his best football.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I think there was still hope when you said what
you said, and what happened took place last year was
like snake bitten type deal, and it's there's either the
quiet optimism where I'm going to get the backlash once
they're seven and oh nine and oh during the course
of the season, I'm gonna get just smashed, like you
don't know what you're talking about. Ha ha ha ha
(31:41):
j e Ts, Jets, Jets, Jets, all that stuff. I'll
get it later.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
I'll get it later from from the bandwagon fair weather fans,
That's what I'll get. But as of right now, I
think that the hope isn't high enough for them to
come after me that way because there's nothing for them
to stand on. You can't stand on Aaron Rodgers. He
went out in after four plays. You can't do it,
won't do it, can't win with it. You got to
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show me that. You got to show me and there's
nothing else you can stand on. Oh you got one
of the best rosters.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Yeah you do.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Your defense looks really good, Yeah it does. You improved
your offensive lineman, We are, yes, you did. I've never
seen bad culture offset by dope players or coaching, never
seen it. So if they have a great year, if
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they have a great year, then that will mean that
for me, it will mark one of the first moments
where I've seen a decrepit culturally decrepit team actually overcome
bad culture unless they've changed, Unless the culture has changed,
which I don't see that.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
It's been too long. It's been bad culture for too long.
And if we're looking at how they've interviewed during the
course of this offseason, with the whole where's Aaron Rodgers today?
Where's there? Where's Aaron Rodgers? Right? Okay, I mean no
doubt he was an agent. You tell me he wasn't
throwing routes to a camel while he was out there.
They're not doing it was James vanderby They're not doing
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pat and go line to James Vanderbeek or like like
unk from a Napoleon dynamite. I don't know out there with.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
The ban think about it, like going back to Varsity Blues,
you know, yeah, I forgot to go there. I mean
they was like was Tweeter along with them catching passes?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Maybe maybe maybe he was. Maybe they had a cop
car too, you know what I mean. I'm just asking.
Maybe they just had cowboy.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Boots and whip cream bikini anymore.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
No, it wasn't a whip cream bikini. No, seeing how
old James Vanderbek was, maybe it wasn't about puking and rallying.
By the way, how could you Varsity Blues came out
in nineteen ninety nine. Hey, he's not even but he
isn't even hearing it. I'll just speak speak for the room.
That movie sucked. You're not you're not You're not a
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high school football. If you were a high school football
that's actually a dope movie. Kidding, But how could you
be a fan? Super accurate? How could you? How could
you be a fan of the program and then turned
Varsity Blues? Different levels of football, it's non alcoholic football.
One was one was college, which was dope, one was
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the program was dope. But one was high school and
it just gave you and it was like a fun
feeling like Friday Night Lights was more serious. It's like, like,
you know the book, I read the book. I read
Friday Night Lights.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
The book.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Jesse Armstead, one of my old teammates, is in the
book like he played for what what? What? What?
Speaker 5 (34:45):
What was the team Odessa played? I forgetting Midland or
something Midlandess or something like that. Anyway, that was a
more serious high school football film. Varsity Blues was just
everything fun about what you you could remember if you
were a part of play. There were old hits that
would come to our games and meet up at Monticello's
(35:07):
Pizza after the games with their letterman jackets on. They'd
be there from nineteen from Concrete, from.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Team.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
There'd be dudes there with their letterman jackets on in
there with us getting pizza.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Bunch of losers. You call it what you want. We
all had our letterman jackets on. Tell you that all
hitting on the same girls. Damn, you can't hate old
varsity You want that.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
I ain't even knowing nothing to buy beer?
Speaker 3 (35:40):
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six to nine am Eastern time three to six am
Pacific time. And you know, we're about the same old
Shenanigans are currently taking place behind the scenes here with well,
let's let's be uh hold on. I know, well, it
(37:35):
plays a couple of them trying to think how we
could be a little bit more discreet about this than
the Shenanigans. And you'll get it. We'll put it this way.
There's dueling banjo's so to speak, in the other studio
right now, you know what I mean, trumpet back, So
that's happening in the other studio.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
And there's people that are caught in the light of fire.
I mean, I'm blown away by who the characters are.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
So a lot of people recovering or trying to recover
from the their diets over the weekend before time, sow'd
you eat? What'd you guys eat? What'd you have?
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Dogs?
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Burgers? I tried to do some'mores. I forgot how bad
those are?
Speaker 5 (38:17):
I lovemores. Oh god, I didn't do any we did s'mores,
I didn't do any. I just don't like marshmallows. Like,
I'm not into roasted marshmallows. I realized all these years later.
Did not burn it really good? See, I'm with you
because they're too chewy. But if you burn them like
I like burning mine, like burn them bad boys. I
(38:38):
like it a little brown, not all the way we
got all the way, stay away from Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
I had a revelation. This weekend has nothing to do
with food either. I had never been to a Costco before.
Oh wow, And it was the most overwhelming experience. I
gotta be honest with you. I don't think I've ever
been to one either. Broke in there and I was
just like it was like the first time you get
a Times Square in New York. There's just like lights,
(39:06):
there's things flash, and there's people, there's there's cars. You're
trying not to get hit, like the oh, so many
things going on. I walked in. I was like, oh, dude,
you can get anything here, which, like I'm like a
less is more or more is less how everyone to
describe in this case, because if I have to come
here like once a month to grab some stuff, that
(39:26):
is a win. And so I'm like taking my four
kids around trying to like huddle them while I'm being distracted.
I mean, I could not get over them. You get
a car, you can get a car from Costco, like
they have like a car program there, Like there's nothing
that they don't have there. I feel like we're giving
free advertising right now. But I was blown away, and
I know I'm gonna get made fun of for this,
but I have just not ever had the time or
(39:49):
lived like close enough in proximity to a Costco to
go to a Costco that seems like a hell of
a good deal.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
That's I try and avoid it for you at all costs.
It's just too And that was it from me.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
That was it.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
I don't do it anymore, No to uh, to Brady's point,
there's some people that go there to eat like the
hot dogs, the pizza, Like they will go there because
you can find anything you want.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
I've done drop offs. I sit in a parking lot
and just listen to music. I will not go in
like before a show, grocery stores, you know that is yes,
just like before shows. That's my safe haven, my vehicle.
My I sit in my vehicle, no matter what it is. Church,
I thought, shopping, you know. I sit in the car
(40:33):
and wait, I pull in.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
I see LeVar there, just sitting there. Yeah, and he says, like,
what's up? But it doesn't really like it doesn't really
you know, preach into a conversation.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Yeah, I don't want to conversation.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
He's just you.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
I love y'all to death.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
But but you know what's crazy is Jonas has really
embraced it. Because Jonas will not acknowledge me at all.
At this point, Jonas does, he's head straight. And I
opened the car door one day.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
I was like, bro, like what, like, what up? You're
having your time? I don't want to interrupt, very true,
so your special literally act like I'm not there. Yeah,
I'll put my hand up and be like, no, not
right now.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
I clearly started doing the Sanford and Sun songs soon
as you pull in, so like you're getting out of
the car, I'm like, don't don't and then you don't
even look at me.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
I'm like, all right, we'll forget you. Yeah, well you
in two minutes, damn. All right. So uh there is uh,
there's some optimism for a certain team in the NFL. Yeah,
that team would be on this show. Yeah, that team
would be the Chicago Bears. Some optimism. Now, Levar's guy,
(41:41):
the guy who he called and I quote on our
morning show, and Brady can attest to this. LaVar said this, Yeah,
LeVar said, and I quote, Caleb Williams is the most
inspirational player I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, that's
what you said. Thank you mistook me for emotional. It
was okay, emotional, Okay, I just want to I guess.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
So emotion obeabema lose.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
So if you take a gander and you go over
to the d did he hop in?
Speaker 5 (42:16):
Listen, if you hop in the stands into your mama's
arms in a fetal position, then you cry in the
bosoms of your mama, and you revisit that that time
when you first came here and just got here, and
you make the passage like your emotional.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
If I ever, if I ever was good enough to
play I would have done that. Would you have done it? Hell?
Speaker 4 (42:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:35):
I mean Jim, Mom's props for being strong enough to
grab him and pull him up by the way, I
mean she grabbed him, pulled him up, held him, covered
his face. I didn't know how many hands she had.
She had like six hands. Man, Mama's love. Like you know,
they figure it out. Well, you know who's figured it out.
Matty Eberflus, the head coach of All of a Sudden.
(42:56):
He is the favorite to win Coach of the Year
in the NFL LL, followed by Robert Salah and then
Jim Harbaughs. So, Matty, you refleuce with a brand new quarterback?
What is this based off of projections? What's this project?
What's the project?
Speaker 4 (43:12):
Williams?
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Is that it damn right?
Speaker 4 (43:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (43:15):
Keman outlets c W eighteen. Yeah, well, I want to
wager on it. You want to bring lab bet Jesus
even though it.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
Ain't putting a wager on if wins Coach of the Year. Yes,
I don't like that, Bet. I think Williams is gonna
ring Rooky of the Year.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
I think he'll win. Uh. You know what, I'll give
you the field, I'll Williams if you're giving me in
the field, I'll take that. Okay, I'll take that gentleman's wager.
Or for donation? What were we doing?
Speaker 5 (43:48):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Write it down, somebody write it down.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
Lee's got this, he sources. Yeah, sure, we'll do one
hundred dollars donation.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Lee's Lee's holding on to a different type of paper
right now. You gotta be careful when you ride on
one play. But uh so so Matti Eberflus, he's got
this new quarterback, number number one pick of the draft.
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They've added pieces around him, not just Keenan Allen, but
they went out and added Gerald Everett. He's going to
be there as well too. They've added DeAndre Swift. He's
there as well too. The offensive line people think is promising.
They've shown flashes. The defensive pretty good defensively, and Mattiflu
(44:37):
defensive head coach. That's right. So if so Shane Waldron
the OC can get the offense on track, it would
make some sense that maybe they would take some strides.
But it's just also an acknowledgment that you know, justin
fields was maybe holding them back at times last year.
I think they end up third or fourth and the
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FC North third or fourth in their own division. So
if that, if that equates to you getting Coach of
the Year and getting Rookie of the year, then let's
go with it. But I see Detroit winning it. I
see green Bay maybe edging Detroit out to win it,
so that would give them a second place. So if
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you want to flip flop Detroit in green Bay.
Speaker 5 (45:24):
And the only reason why I would say they have
odds favorite on Minnesota is because they have a rookie
quarterback as well that possibly that's going to start as well.
You got two rookie qbs, but they're going to be
battling it out for third and fourth as well in
their respective division if you ask me. So, I don't
know how you get coach of the year or get
(45:45):
Rookie of the year depending on maybe his his performances,
but you know, it is what it is to me.
That's how I see it.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
They were seven to ten last year, right, they started
off three and fourteen Ibraflusu's first year seven to ten
last year, which you know, you really you could look
at the job that they've done on the roster, I
think as part of the growth that you saw from
justin fields, but also around him, I mean, Gettinghi Dj Moore,
getting him some help the offensive line plows better. That's
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the big question is is the roster in a position
around the quarterback position to be able to look Caleb
Williams could be generational. That was what the word people
throw around about him, you know, the only comp you
can really make to him. Some people, you know, look
at Rogers as far as the way you kind of
throw off platform and kind of the flick of the wrist.
Some say Mahomes whatever you want to compare him to.
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When you're using those two names as a comp clearly
people think he's special. And so if he is that special,
how high could he take him in his first year?
I mean, I think he could get them to a
winning record, but if you look at the division around them,
I mean, Minnesota is probably going to be starting a
rookie quarterback. I think it's going to be J. J. McCarthy.
If not, it's going to be Sam Donald to start
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off with. And so maybe you feel more optimistic about that.
I'm not really sure how people feel. I think Sam Darnold,
with a talent they have it in Minnesota, could flow
could really flourish could play really well in that system.
We got to see can Detroit replicate what they did
last year. I mean, that's a team that everyone's excited about.
They're excited to watch them. Maybe this time around. You
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listen to guys like Aiden Hutchson talk about getting the
super Bowl now, like like this is their year. They
feel like it's they're gonna get to the you know,
NFC Championship game, move on, get the super Bowl. You know,
That's that's where they feel like they're at. And maybe
they are. But it's really really hard to sustain that
level of consistent success. So I'm not saying they're gonna
be a playoff team. I think they're going to improve
(47:37):
on the seven s en record. I think they get
to eight and nine, nine and eight. Their schedule is
kind of funky, that's the only way I can put it,
but it's not the most difficult schedule. The buye comes
about halfway through the season. They start off with Tennessee
at Houston at Indy, and then they go to La
Carolina Jacksonville. It's like spurts of home and then away
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because they come out of the buy plan back to back.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
That's saying like that favorable deal though kind of.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
I mean, I don't know how you guys feel about that.
Like they will basically play a home game November twenty.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Fourth, Carolina, But you know that, I think they might
be able to pull that one out.
Speaker 4 (48:14):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
We're going to get to soon.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
But hear me out, hear me out. They they play
at home November twenty fourth, they don't come back home
again till December twenty second. So that's how their schedule
kind of shapes out. It's a weird, streaky schedule, and
I think sometimes it's hard when you've got either new pieces,
your young pieces, when you have to navigate a schedule
like that. It's hard to get into a rhythm when
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you're back to back weeks on the road, three weeks
at home, back back weeks on the road, a couple
weeks at home. It's tough to adjust to when your
first year playing. I do think they'll be improved.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Also, like how the schedule makers are like, all right,
so it's the Bear's turn to play the AFC South.
How do we want to break this up. We'll give
them Tennessee Houston, Indy the first three weeks. That works,
and then we'll figure out everything else after that, and
then they go play over and they've got that buy
that you mentioned. So if they're a nine win team,
which would be an improvement over the seven from a
year ago, does that get you coach of the year.
(49:10):
Like I look at it, I think Jim Harbaugh at
eleven to one is the one to watch for coach
of the year because there's more knowns than there is
in Chicago. Like, we know Justin Herbert's a good quarterback.
We know that Jim Harbaugh is a good coach. We
know that last year a lot of that had to
do with the Brandon Staley debacle and the fiasco there.
(49:31):
Herbert got injured at some point during the season. I
look at Jim Harbaugh's being the one to watch for
a coach of the year next year because I just
think there's more that you can count on there that
you've seen.
Speaker 5 (49:40):
I'm gonna go out on the ledge and say I'm
looking at a horrorball to be the coach of the year,
But not Jim.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
I'm looking at John God, You're gonna do it again.
I knew it the one. See, let me tell people
behind the scenes, this is what happened here. Lebar and
I had paid the Ravens to go to a super
Bowl or make a deep run for years let us
they keep letting us down, and they always let us down.
And then last year, since we started the show, really
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last year was the year I jumped off. But last
year was the year that we were like finally, like
all right, I'm out of Baltimore. They've broken our hearts
too many times. And then they go and host an
AFC title game before they melt it down against k C,
and so now it's like, no, no, now we're gonna
get batter stuff. That's why I'm not. That's why I'm not.
(50:32):
I'm not No, I'm not doing it. I'm not going
to reverse coat. I'll take Jim. I'm gonna stick with
John this years for John, Well take it, John the
Great pat Bull. And so Brady, who's your coach of
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the year? You got? You gotta put your your harder
and costco dollars down on some coach of the year
action who you got?
Speaker 4 (50:59):
Man, that's a tough one because I feel like this
is one of the harder award winners in the NFL
season to predict, only because you know, you look at
like a team that suffers a bunch of injuries like
Cleveland last year, and then it leads to Kevin Stefans
having four quarterbacks start for him, And so it's like
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you're not anticipating battling through adverse like that, true man,
because because in my head, I'm thinking more similar to LeVar,
like John Harbaugh, a team that finally gets over the
hump get to the super Bowl, like they win it,
but oftentimes it ends up being a team that battles
through something.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
So I hear you're you want to give you the
odds the list of names, all right, So iber Flus
is the favorite on DraftKings at nine to one, followed
by Robert Sala, Levar's guy, and then Jim Harbaugh eleven
to one, and then you've got Matt Lafleur, Raheem Morris,
Dmko Ryans, Jonathan Gannon, Dan Campbell.
Speaker 4 (51:56):
Mak O.
Speaker 5 (51:57):
Ryan's is a good one if he can have a
repeat performed. It's the last year. That's a good one
to throw in the mill.
Speaker 4 (52:02):
Because I mean he was essentially second this year, right
was he? I mean he's I thought he was next
up to Stefanski in the phone. Is that not right?
Speaker 3 (52:10):
I think so.
Speaker 4 (52:12):
That would have been. That would have been who I
voted for otherwise outside of Stefanski.
Speaker 5 (52:15):
I mean, what a bang, bang up job he did.
If he can, if he can do that again this year, dude, man,
why wouldn't he get it?
Speaker 4 (52:24):
I'm just gonna say, Robert Solid steal a good move, Jesus,
good move.
Speaker 3 (52:31):
What I said, Jesus, that's a good move. Well, it
is The Herd here on Fox Sports Radio, Brady Quinn,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up next year, though,
we are going to tell you about how one team
in the NFL continues to outdo themselves. They find new
ways every single week to top what they did a
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Speaker 2 (52:55):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
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you making us a part of your Monday morning. And
it's a Monday following a long ass Fourth of July weekend,
thank goodness, with people still recovering, most notably our executive
producer Lee to Lap, who is kind of ing he's
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in the midst of the He's.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
In a state. He's in a state right now.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
How's he doing midst of a battle? You know, he's
in a battle. He's a he's in a twelve round
slug fest with his lower intestines, trying to figure out
how he can't save himself and the rest of the studio. Lee,
are you going to be able to get through this
or what what's going on here?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
We're gonna make it through, to get through this together.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
I am curious though, I mean, we did see the
hotsog getting contest, but that actually the lemonade drinking contest.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Told the stage, Oh god, people got to stop giving up.
The ghost wasn't enough, said the guy threw up everything
he'd eaten since he was five years old because he
shugged a gallon of lemonade. And people are standing there
like it's go anywhere though, Just how you throw up
your whole life, it's just normal.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I'm still It looked like he was still holding on
what he think.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
He is like a pool floating. I don't knows.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
He'll be all right.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
He speaking fast for the next six months. He'll be
all right. Everything's gonna be okay. But nonetheless, we are
off and running here on a Monday morning, and I'm
just noticing last care you know, I'm noticing a trend here.
How come like nobody's playing with the Lakers now, like
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nobody wants to. I don't know, I'm just I was
looking around. I see DeMar DeRozan is the latest. I'm
seeing Klay Thompson. Like, now I know why everyone was
trying to feed you these garbage stories about well you
the father son, the last name. No, the reason why
they drafted Brownie James because they couldn't get anybody else
to them. So I think that's really the reason here,
(03:05):
because it looks like whatever the plan was going into
this offseason, everybody's going elsewhere. Everybody's going elsewhere. And now
Brownie James has got a swollen knee and was kept
out of the second NBA Summer League game, and then
he had You know, LeVar was blown away with his
two for nine shooting in his first Summer League.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
No, that was away. Yeah, he looked amazing out there,
and text text tech I was I was being sarcastic, okay,
because you know what responded back, I was like, there
is a I watched it.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
I watched it. He struggled, which that's nothing new if
you've seen this game. But look, he's a young player.
He's got time to develop. He needs to be out
there playing though it's it's tough when you're not healthy,
you can't be out there getting better. But it was
exactly what he was defined to be as a prospect.
He struggles shooting. I mean, he couldn't even make a
(03:58):
couple of free throws. But you saw, you know, the
way I leave at least athletically, how he can attack,
how he will try to play defense. The problem is,
the more time we see him, especially in you know,
defensively speaking, he's going to struggle, Like he's going to
struggle being able to switch on screens because you can't
match up with guys or going to be seven eight
nine ten inches taller than him, and that's unfortunately the
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position that he's going to be in often being what
six one and a half or whatever he was at
the NBA Combine.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, he moved around pretty good. He just couldn't make
a shot. You know, maybe that's nerves. He missed some
free throws. I mean, listen, we've gotten through the initial
you know, he he's gotten drafted. Everybody falls on there
certain sides of it. I've gotten attacked for saying what
I've said about if you say, if you said apparently
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if you say anything outside of it's a great pick
at fifty five that you're a hater and and and
not only did I get he's a hater, but I
guess I am not as good as dead as Lebron
is and and my son isn't as good player as is.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
That's I've gotten it all. I gotten it all, which
is okay, It's okay. I don't have any milice in
my heart or any type of hate towards Lebron James
or Bronnie James. I just felt like, honestly speaking, if
we're shooting straight, I think we all know what the
storyline is. And that's that's that's connected to the draft.
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Now fast forward to the Summer League. There were questions
as to whether he was going to even participate, which
would make it a first ever in the history of
the Summer League that a draft d did not participate,
but he did so they got one game out of
the way, so regardless of a banged up knee or
whatever it may be as to why he may not
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play again or play at all the rest of the
summer league. He knocked down one game. Let's let's say
that his movement was good. It did not look as
though he did not belong He'd looked like which I
didn't think initially seeing him out there, that he would
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look like he belonged in an NBA uniform.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I was wrong. He looked like he belonged. It just
looked as though.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
He had And be clear, more than any other rookie
out there, name one rookie that had the weight of
the world of their shoulders that Brownie James did going
into their first Summer League games. So, I mean, if
you expected him to be a world beater going into it,
with the type of pressure he's had on him, that
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would have been best case scenario. Worst case scenario, maybe
he misses all his shots. Okay scenario meaning you know,
it wasn't a failure. It wasn't a great success. It
just wasn't a failure either was what he did, which
is that should be on par for what it was.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
And good for him. He's out of the gates. He's
out of the block. So Lebron spoke recently with David Minimum,
the Lakers reporter, and just kind of. According to his dad,
Bronnie doesn't share these same feelings about criticism that his
dad once did.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
I don't know if people really understand Bronnie. He doesn't care.
I actually cared a little bit when I came in.
I wanted people to like like me, and some of
the things that people were saying about me kind of
bothered me early on in my career. I let it
get to me. Ronnie doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't. He
does not care about nobody's he doesn't even listen to
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that stuff. He's like the complete opposite of his dad.
His dad will say something, yeah, Bronnie does not care
like me personally. When I was coming up, I had
no choice. I literally had no choice. I had to
make it out. I had no choice. I had to
make it out for me, my mom, my family. Ronnie
has all the choices in the world. So it's like
a whole other people don't understand how hard dad is
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in the commitment for him to be coming out of
heart surgery less than a year ago, for him to
be a to be in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
That's the kid is.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
He's special, but he doesn't care. He doesn't.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
It doesn't it doesn't bother.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
I dig where he's coming from and and for what
it's worth in twenty twenty four, I don't. I don't
think that it's measured or weigh the same anymore in
terms of haves and have nots. A kid that has
nothing and absolutely nothing and has to try to make
it by playing basketball, playing a sport or whatever it
may be, versus a kid who comes from privilege and
(08:30):
has it all and happens to have one of the
greatest basketball players that ever play the game on on
the planet as as a father. I don't think and
Gilbert Reenus and a couple guys had this conversation before.
I don't think that there's a discrepancy between the two,
to be honest, other than other than if the kid
that doesn't have anything going for himself in terms of family,
(08:53):
wealth and resources, they have to figure it out. But
you know what, a kid like Bronni James, he has
to figure it out if it doesn't go well at
the same time, so they're both facing the same thing,
which is themselves.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
You got to put in the work. Are you putting
in the work, are you getting the development? Are you
being what you need to be? So I get where
he's coming from. Ma Man's a lot like that. Man
Man doesn't care what people He doesn't care what people
say about him.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
I did. I cared about what people said. They said
that I was undisciplined, or they said that I didn't study.
It upset me. I was called an athlete much of
my career. It upset me because it's like, why can't
I gain and garner the respect of someone who's a
student of the game. I was one of the biggest
students of the game because I was a fan of
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the game, so I always wanted to understand it. So
it bothered me when people said things about me. Man
Man's like, like, here's what it is. So I get
where he's coming from. And I think a lot of
that has to do with the way he's raised. He's
raised by a guy that has gone through it at
the upper level of it all and and now here
they are, so I think I think.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
That's part of it. I think the other difference is,
like we grew up through an age where you didn't
have it. The reality is today's athlete cannot hide from
criticism because they're going to hop on social media. Everyone's
got it. They've got to have it for marketing or
business opportunities, to connect to their fan base, whatever the
case is, so you can't avoid it. And and all
(10:31):
of you said, all of what you said is true.
But I think on top of that, it's just the
day and age for these athletes is they are so
accustomed to the criticism that comes with a cesspool that
is social media that they've got thicker stin. They're more
callous than I think people realize because when when I
mean when we were coming up, man, like when social
(10:51):
media came out, We're like, dude, where all these guys
talking trash, We're got to fight them? Like that's that's
the kind of reaction you had to it because it
was so new to you. And get granted, it was
also probably back in the day and age where people
did get in a lot of fights, but they kind
of buried. It wasn't as big of a deal nowadays
that there's a like lawsuits involved everything else. I just
think it's a different era. It's a different era of
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athlete nowadays where they have to be able to be
mentally tough enough to endure social media, the good and
the bad. I mean as much as I'm talking about
the negative of it, there's also the build up where
social media can build people up to be, you know,
the best of the best, the greatest ever, all those
conversations over just one season, and you're like, no, wait
(11:34):
a second, Like we've watched some of these guys in
the past and do it for a series of years,
you know, Tom Brady for two decades. You know. I
think there's just a difference in the way younger athletes
today now perceive themselves and social media and their own image,
and I think they're just better mentally prepared for everything
(11:56):
that being a professional athlete brings. Now even I guess
even college, but that's kind of a professional athlete anyway.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Nowadays. I mean, you just got to do what I do.
What's that all right? Just have such a low opinion
of yourself that whatever anybody else says, yeah, whatever, that
has ten dollars. That's the truth. That's passive aggressive. It's
not passive aggressive.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
It's the truth putting yourself down knowing that on the
other side of it, you're like, man, I am the
sexiest mofo A.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Laugh, Brady? You Brady? Is you you think you are?
It's the difference.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
I mean, I way I had.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I thought I was going to be interested in watching
Brownie James actually play, and then I saw a couple
of highlights. I mean, the fact that we were to
find a couple of highlights is impressive, but I sawghlights.
I have no interest in watching and playing the Summer
League because I look at it like it's like a
buddy that you know is not funny and he tries
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stand up comedy, like he doesn't open mic night, and
you're like, I don't even want to go because he's
going to find out real quick he doesn't qualify to
be on that stage, and like, I don't want to
watch him go through and struggle and take because anybody
that's got an issue with Bronnie James has an issue
with lebron James. And that's really where this is coming from.
And he's never done anything to where I'm like, well, yeah,
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like he went out and said I should be a
draft pick, I should be this, Like he threw his
name in the hat. He probably understood what the situation was,
but you've never heard him do anything really wrong or
anything that should be criticized other than just having the
same last name. And who his dad is. So I
look at it and I go, I don't even want
to watch Man because we know how this is going
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to go. So let's just fast track it. Let's get
to the good part of the story. And let's just
go to the part in the regular season where him
and Lebron are on the same team together, and maybe
Lebron assists him on an on an open jump shot.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
He moves well enough where I could actually see him
in a regular season game now.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
For how long?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
For how long?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I don't know. He missed the second game because he's
got a knee swelling. We're off to start, you know
what I mean? Can we just season?
Speaker 5 (14:03):
I think y'all be thinking I'm glass half empty, which
I am. I'm going glass half for today, y'all, y'all
are you?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (14:11):
You too? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Y'all. Well, you know you didn't say I'm a hater,
per se. You just said that, you know.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Also, can we pause because you did bring up man
Man earlier for this audience here at the Herd. You know,
I don't know that they know the backstory of the
nickname Man Man. Who Man Man is?
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Man Man is LeVar Arrington? The second second, Yeah, he
committed to Penn State. He's going to go play linebacker
edge at Penn State.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Dammit, yeah yeah, baby, But he's got a lie.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
I just did an interview on him this morning and
and it's like nobody knows who he is. Like they're
they're trying there. There's all these interviews request because it's like,
is he being overvalued? Is he being undervalue? What's his value?
And the recruiting, the recruiting process, what what what's his worth?
And it's like, is that something that you guys talk
(15:03):
about you think about? I said, that's one hundred percent
something that we thought about going into it. Man man
hasn't done any camps, He hasn't done any seven on sevens.
All he's done is is unofficial visits. That's it in
the end, his official visits. And the reason being is
we we had the opportunity a couple of times to
possibly take them out and send them to a bigger school.
(15:26):
Modern Day was a school that we were thinking about
doing it. But we love the development and the guidance
of the head coach Dom Ferrar that he's under now.
And we felt as though him being under the radar
because of his name, him being man man, so everybody
calls him man, so he wasn't being called LeVar. It's
like LaVar, LeVar, LeVar if it's football terms. It was
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he was man, So nobody really knew who he was
until he started to getting recruited, which it worked perfectly
because it kept him humble, it kept them hungry, and
he was aware of the fact that he was going
to have to earn everything that he got. He didn't
start get recruited until this past year, like right right now,
his junior year, going through his junior year. Generally, if
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you're a top guy, you'll start getting recruited like eighth
ninth grade. So he's gone through the process the right way.
So that's why I'm saying I can relate to the
whole conversation with Lebron and Brownie at this point because
I do have a second as well, and that's a heart.
It's a hard place to be in and you'll see
Q and you'll see Jonas. When your boy gets bigger,
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you start to have different types of emotions and feelings
about what their accomplishments, what their achievements are, because you
have to balance being a father, but you're also balancing
trying to train them to be successful and there in
the ways that they go about the their lives and
how they prepare. But then there's the fan, and you
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should always be your kid's biggest fan. So it's like
you have to find the balancing point of not putting
yourself in danger of being delusional, because you could actually
be so delusional that your kid ends up being delusional.
So I've I've always fallen on the other side of it.
I've been pretty hard on them. I've been pretty hard
on him, and listen, I feel like it's working so
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and I'm sure Lebron feels the same exact way about
how he's approached what he's doing with Brownie. And for
for better or for worse, for whatever anybody may think,
the guy guided his kid to a La Lakers jersey.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
However he got there, he got there. He's an l
A Lakers Jersey.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Yeah, man, I do. It's coming to some point.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
They right to hijack the plane.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Oh since eleven they stole they stole Pick fifty five, right,
I mean, we got here. I'm a pilot too. It
is the herd. Here On Fox Sports Radio, Levarrio Rington
Brady Quinn Jonas Knox with are you feeling for Colin here? Hey,
(18:05):
my baby, I go land In? Uh. Coming up next
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That's right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
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Speaker 3 (18:26):
Appnazzas huh uh did you know about that? On the
ones and twos? You got problems?
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Man?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
That's nostradamis.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Man.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Just just so you're clear on that.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Shouts out to everybody out there that's a true hip
hop fan that knows you know, that's that's nasty nas
right there.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Man.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Oh, Brady used to call me knoxtra dovis. What would's different?
It's a different.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Actually, never ever in the history of my life have
called you that.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
You never said that. Are you trying to sit here?
Speaker 4 (18:58):
You're so bad at better dad? I Actually, it's just
it's almost the exact opposite.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Complete disrespect here on this shows. You're talking about nos
nostradamis whatever nostradomis. It is a predictor. It is the Herd.
Here on Fox Sports Radio, it's LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn,
Jonas Knox in for Colin. Coming up here in about
(19:25):
twenty minutes from now, We're going to tell you about
how somebody who has already made a claim, they have
already made a claim that you will never see this
ever again in the world of sports. We will investigate
that claim. Coming up here again about twenty minutes from now. Hey,
you know who's just kind of sitting back ready for
the NFL season, just rehabbing for him too and them?
(19:48):
Oh okay, Old Joe Burrow, is he waiting? The Boogeyman
of Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs. Was in
a fashion show. He was had He had an interesting
look going on.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Don't hate hey, just because he likes things outside of football.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
The back was blowing out of his of his shirt,
you know what I mean, That's what That's what I
remember from the pitch. Hey, when that happened. I bet
it's a hey when that happens. But Joe Burrow was bad.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
It was spinal.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
There was no back to his shirt. Joe Burrow did
talk recently about how having an injury means that for
some reason people kind of, you know, lose touch with
who you are and who you were as a player.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Do you think people have forgotten about Joe Burrow?
Speaker 7 (20:36):
I believe that that's what happens when you get hurt.
Though you don't play football, people forget about you. But again,
that's part of the game. You don't If you're not
out there and people aren't watching you, then there's nothing
to talk about. Yeah, so I'm gonna get people to
talk about something to talk about this year.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Well, I'm excited about it. So that was on part
of my take Joe Burrow talking about having an opportunity
to come back this year coming off an injury, and
I did by the way I did see did he
took the Brady Quinn approach back when you were playing
you tried to learn piano. Joe Burrow's doing the same
thing there, bradyr Yeah, that was a little different approach,
though he was doing it more from a rehab purpose.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Maybe I was just trying to rehab my mind at that.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Point, but you was trying to add something to that
arsenal And then good, look you pulled that smile out,
that that hair.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yeah, them keys, No I feel.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
I mean walk into the room like Burt Backerag you
started playing the piano.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
I wish I could have just walked up like I
wanted to learn how to play guitar, so I could
be sitting next to you, you know, like the ugly
dudes could get away with being sexy when they played guitar. Real, Well,
you played it, you know, you play the keys, you know. Yeah,
I was incapable of learning that. Me too, Me too,
So join the club work. Well, you can't have it all,
you know what I mean. I guess we go back
really to the to the the clip. That's what I
(21:46):
would to point on one thing in the quote.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
That he says, Yeah, let's hear it again.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Do you think people have forgotten about Joe Burrow?
Speaker 7 (21:55):
I believe that that's what happens when you get hurt.
Though you don't play football, people forget about you. But again,
that's part of the game. You don't If you're not
out there and people aren't watching it, then there's nothing
to talk about. Yeah, so I'm gonna get people to
talk about something to talk about this year.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Well, I'm excited about it.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Did it sound like he needed to burp or he
had like a little bitat Yeah, he was holding on
to it a little bit, like you're trying to make
this big statement. But you know sometimes like you eat
right before one of those interviews and then you're like indigestion,
something to think about, you know, like you're not saying
it like yeah, something to think about, man, you know,
like a little more a little more masking, a little
more manly son like it like maybe a little indigestion that.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Like our president a little bit. But anyway, that's come on,
we are on Fox.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
But I will say this.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
We just talked about this in the first segment. And
to answer your question, yes, you disc out like there
was something going on there for a moment, but people
do forget about you.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
And and it's funny because we're gonna have news trending
and we're on here about you know, like you said,
one of the legends saying what he had to say
about dying. But we live in such a more recency
effect uh society. As you highlight it through social media
and what people are are really into. You can lose
(23:13):
relevance in one season. You can lose it in one
season because of how much information is disseminated and put
out there. Within one season, you could lose your career
over one thing that takes place in social media. So
if you're not around, there's somebody that's going to fill
(23:33):
in that blank, you know, And that's that's I think
that that's what joe Burrow is talking about. It used
to just be you felt like a ghost in the facility,
But now because things happen so so quickly in social
media and how news.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Is distributed now, it's it's very different. It's very, very very.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Competitive being able to maintain being a main a main
stay guy, a main stay name, especially if you get
an injury that holds you out for and extend the
amount of time.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
There's only two teams that are bigger favorites to make
the playoffs than the Cincinnati Bengals, and it's the Chiefs
and the forty nine ers. So you know what that means.
Joey Burrow, He's in contention for the MVP, he's in
contention for Comeback Player of the Year, and the Bengals
are gonna win that division. That's what that tells me.
So get ready all this Baltimore Raven fanboy crap. It's over.
(24:29):
Cincinnati's taken over that division. The AFC North is there,
and you can book that n put that in your
nostri smoke it.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I'm not against that take for this reason because I
do think Burrow is special. If he's healthy, I do
think there's cause for concern though, right. I mean, the
interesting part about hearing the clip on hey, he's doing
piano to help with his rehab is how many guys
do you here have a wrist injury that do piano
to help with the rehab. Now, granted, he's a thrower,
(24:57):
so it's different, and his rehab is going to be
more or unique than most athletes that have a risk injury,
but this seems pretty unique. This seems like one where
from the onset of the injury and even the recovery
the timetable, it feels like he's gonna be battling through
some things to get back to his old self or
maybe to get back to playing at a really, really
(25:18):
high level as his new normal. So I think they're
set up to have success if he's gonna be back
byd Center, because I just think he'll find a way.
He's that good of a player. What concerns me though,
is the competition the rest of the division. I mean,
you could say whatever you want about Baltimore, but I
think Cleveland to me is the team that if I
had to put money on it right now, they're gonna
win the division. That's one of the best rosters in
(25:42):
the NFL. Deshaun Watson's had plenty of time to get
down Kevin Staphansi's his offense, and even if he can't,
even if he just manages guides the team, that's enough
for that defense, that ground attack with Nick Chubb coming
back healthy, that's enough to be able to get it done.
I think they're then in Pittsburgh. I mean Pittsburgh obviously,
(26:02):
we've talked about this a bunch and LeVar, I know
you're not as high on them as I am. But
if they get Russell Wilson from what he did last year,
that's a playoff team. With Russell Wilson at starting at quarterback.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Yeah, I think they're a playoff team. I just don't
think they're I don't think they're. I think they're second
third in the North.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
So here.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
So here's what I'll ask you is what were the
Bengals ranked last year Defensively?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
They were probably pretty good.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Thirty first, No, thirty first in total defense.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Well so dang, going too far with a thirty first
ranked defense.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
And and look we could chalk that up to hey,
they playing with the backup quarterback. With that being said,
Jake Browning did a hell of a job last year
as he kept that team in it. He bawled out
and I know Jonas is gonna talk about something else.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
What do you mean, what do you get in?
Speaker 4 (26:52):
I'm not I'm not going down that direction.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
It was a white aut of the game. What do
you want. He had the best press box in the league.
I'll just say that.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Tang. Okay, there it was.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I mean, he's not lying. He ain't lying.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
The point is it's not like you back didn't step up?
Was it was it? Indy?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Was it football?
Speaker 4 (27:16):
All right?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
So so bratty, you're telling me, you like, if you
were to look at a team to win the division,
that Cleveland would be the team that you would look at.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
That would be based on the odds right now, So
which is which? Usually you have those at the tip
of your at the tip of your top.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Six to one plus six hundred to win the division
or the Cleveland Browns that's crazy to me, because here's
the thing.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
If that holds true, if that holds true, I think,
I think, look, what are you doing. I think that
that the Steelers are are a mid tier team. I
don't think that they're a divisional winner this year. I
think they're mid tier. So they're second or third. So
if if if you and and betting, if you guys
(27:58):
a betting people have the Cleveland Brown's winning it, then
that means to me. That means to me that since
he and the Steelers are are fighting for four, well,
so Baltimore is the favorite to win the division. I
think they're going to win the division.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Cincinnati's right behind them, and then you've got pretty far
back or Cleveland at plus six hundred, and then Shittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
I feel like Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
I feel like Pittsburgh falls into that second space and
then Cincinnati and Cleveland fight it out for that third
and and I don't I don't say that as it's
a it's a no, it's not a successful season for
Cleveland or Cincinnati. I'm just saying I think that Pittsburgh
and Baltimore, if if history serves serves correctly outside of recency,
(28:48):
that you you're looking out of Baltimore team that should
be better, and you're looking out a Pittsburgh team that
should be good enough.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
They've always been. They've been good enough as of late.
That's what I'll say. I'm not gonna say they're good.
They're they're they're good to win the division. I think
they're good enough to be at that second and third
spot in the North. Let me ask you has a question?
All right, and this is a little bit in the weeds,
but there's nothing else going on me who cares jump?
All things being equal, Aaron Rodgers and Joe Burrow have
(29:21):
pretty similar seasons and their teams have bounced back years.
Who do you think it's comeback player of the year.
I think it'll be Joe Burrow because I think it's
going to be Aaron Rodgers. I think it's going to
be Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Because they've got more prime time games, and so if
he does have that, it's gonna be more.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
You're looking at me, funny like you look at it.
That doesn't mean they're going to win. That doesn't mean
they're going to win. That was gonna be time permitted.
That was gonna be my other question, Who's because I
know we're gonna go into that's gonna get Coach of
the Year. I was Brady, uh and, and only Brady
can answer this. I was just gonna ask him, like,
(30:03):
who's LeVar a bigger hater of Aaron Rodgers or Lebron James?
Like it's a three horse race.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Russ is probably number one. I don't like to think
that LaVar is a hater of than you. He just
stands on his opinion, thank you. But I would say
number one as far as him being critical of it
would be Russell's number two. I mean, are we throwing
(30:36):
Lebron in there? If you want to throw the Lebron
would be number two, and then number three. I don't
think he's even actually critical of Rogers. He's critical the Jets.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
That's very correct. That's that is wow. It's like he
knows me, man, I do, Man, that is very true.
I'm critical.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Here's my question to you, though, Have you not received
backlash from Jets fans?
Speaker 6 (30:58):
No?
Speaker 4 (30:58):
I just remember a couple of years ago I got
everything from I think Wilson. Thing wasn't gonna work out,
and no one wanted to listen, which I do respect
the fact they defended Zach Wilson, who was the quarterback
at the time, and I got nothing against Zach Wilson.
I just felt like he needed a lot of time
to develop before he was gonna be what they expected
him to be, which honestly, he played his best football.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I think there was still hope when you said what
you said, and what happened took place last year was
like snake bitten type deal, and it's there's either the
quiet optimism where I'm going to get the backlash once
they're seven and oh nine and oh during the course
of the season, I'm gonna get just smashed, like you
don't know what you're talking about. Ha ha ha ha
(31:41):
j e Ts, Jets, Jets, Jets, all that stuff. I'll
get it later.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
I'll get it later from from the bandwagon fair weather fans,
That's what I'll get. But as of right now, I
think that the hope isn't high enough for them to
come after me that way because there's nothing for them
to stand on. You can't stand on Aaron Rodgers. He
went out in after four plays. You can't do it,
won't do it, can't win with it. You got to
(32:06):
show me that. You got to show me and there's
nothing else you can stand on. Oh you got one
of the best rosters.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Yeah you do.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Your defense looks really good, Yeah it does. You improved
your offensive lineman, We are, yes, you did. I've never
seen bad culture offset by dope players or coaching, never
seen it. So if they have a great year, if
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they have a great year, then that will mean that
for me, it will mark one of the first moments
where I've seen a decrepit culturally decrepit team actually overcome
bad culture unless they've changed, Unless the culture has changed,
which I don't see that.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
It's been too long. It's been bad culture for too long.
And if we're looking at how they've interviewed during the
course of this offseason, with the whole where's Aaron Rodgers today?
Where's there? Where's Aaron Rodgers? Right? Okay, I mean no
doubt he was an agent. You tell me he wasn't
throwing routes to a camel while he was out there.
They're not doing it was James vanderby They're not doing
(33:15):
pat and go line to James Vanderbeek or like like
unk from a Napoleon dynamite. I don't know out there with.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
The ban think about it, like going back to Varsity Blues,
you know, yeah, I forgot to go there. I mean
they was like was Tweeter along with them catching passes?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Maybe maybe maybe he was. Maybe they had a cop
car too, you know what I mean. I'm just asking.
Maybe they just had cowboy.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Boots and whip cream bikini anymore.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
No, it wasn't a whip cream bikini. No, seeing how
old James Vanderbek was, maybe it wasn't about puking and rallying.
By the way, how could you Varsity Blues came out
in nineteen ninety nine. Hey, he's not even but he
isn't even hearing it. I'll just speak speak for the room.
That movie sucked. You're not you're not You're not a
(34:07):
high school football. If you were a high school football
that's actually a dope movie. Kidding, But how could you
be a fan? Super accurate? How could you? How could
you be a fan of the program and then turned
Varsity Blues? Different levels of football, it's non alcoholic football.
One was one was college, which was dope, one was
(34:28):
the program was dope. But one was high school and
it just gave you and it was like a fun
feeling like Friday Night Lights was more serious. It's like, like,
you know the book, I read the book. I read
Friday Night Lights.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
The book.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Jesse Armstead, one of my old teammates, is in the
book like he played for what what? What? What?
Speaker 5 (34:45):
What was the team Odessa played? I forgetting Midland or
something Midlandess or something like that. Anyway, that was a
more serious high school football film. Varsity Blues was just
everything fun about what you you could remember if you
were a part of play. There were old hits that
would come to our games and meet up at Monticello's
(35:07):
Pizza after the games with their letterman jackets on. They'd
be there from nineteen from Concrete, from.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Team.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
There'd be dudes there with their letterman jackets on in
there with us getting pizza.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Bunch of losers. You call it what you want. We
all had our letterman jackets on. Tell you that all
hitting on the same girls. Damn, you can't hate old
varsity You want that.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
I ain't even knowing nothing to buy beer?
Speaker 3 (35:40):
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six to nine am Eastern time three to six am
Pacific time. And you know, we're about the same old
Shenanigans are currently taking place behind the scenes here with well,
let's let's be uh hold on. I know, well, it
(37:35):
plays a couple of them trying to think how we
could be a little bit more discreet about this than
the Shenanigans. And you'll get it. We'll put it this way.
There's dueling banjo's so to speak, in the other studio
right now, you know what I mean, trumpet back, So
that's happening in the other studio.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
And there's people that are caught in the light of fire.
I mean, I'm blown away by who the characters are.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
So a lot of people recovering or trying to recover
from the their diets over the weekend before time, sow'd
you eat? What'd you guys eat? What'd you have?
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Dogs?
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Burgers? I tried to do some'mores. I forgot how bad
those are?
Speaker 5 (38:17):
I lovemores. Oh god, I didn't do any we did s'mores,
I didn't do any. I just don't like marshmallows. Like,
I'm not into roasted marshmallows. I realized all these years later.
Did not burn it really good? See, I'm with you
because they're too chewy. But if you burn them like
I like burning mine, like burn them bad boys. I
(38:38):
like it a little brown, not all the way we
got all the way, stay away from Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
I had a revelation. This weekend has nothing to do
with food either. I had never been to a Costco before.
Oh wow, And it was the most overwhelming experience. I
gotta be honest with you. I don't think I've ever
been to one either. Broke in there and I was
just like it was like the first time you get
a Times Square in New York. There's just like lights,
(39:06):
there's things flash, and there's people, there's there's cars. You're
trying not to get hit, like the oh, so many
things going on. I walked in. I was like, oh, dude,
you can get anything here, which, like I'm like a
less is more or more is less how everyone to
describe in this case, because if I have to come
here like once a month to grab some stuff, that
(39:26):
is a win. And so I'm like taking my four
kids around trying to like huddle them while I'm being distracted.
I mean, I could not get over them. You get
a car, you can get a car from Costco, like
they have like a car program there, Like there's nothing
that they don't have there. I feel like we're giving
free advertising right now. But I was blown away, and
I know I'm gonna get made fun of for this,
but I have just not ever had the time or
(39:49):
lived like close enough in proximity to a Costco to
go to a Costco that seems like a hell of
a good deal.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
That's I try and avoid it for you at all costs.
It's just too And that was it from me.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
That was it.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
I don't do it anymore, No to uh, to Brady's point,
there's some people that go there to eat like the
hot dogs, the pizza, Like they will go there because
you can find anything you want.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
I've done drop offs. I sit in a parking lot
and just listen to music. I will not go in
like before a show, grocery stores, you know that is yes,
just like before shows. That's my safe haven, my vehicle.
My I sit in my vehicle, no matter what it is. Church,
I thought, shopping, you know. I sit in the car
(40:33):
and wait, I pull in.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
I see LeVar there, just sitting there. Yeah, and he says, like,
what's up? But it doesn't really like it doesn't really
you know, preach into a conversation.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Yeah, I don't want to conversation.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
He's just you.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
I love y'all to death.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
But but you know what's crazy is Jonas has really
embraced it. Because Jonas will not acknowledge me at all.
At this point, Jonas does, he's head straight. And I
opened the car door one day.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
I was like, bro, like what, like, what up? You're
having your time? I don't want to interrupt, very true,
so your special literally act like I'm not there. Yeah,
I'll put my hand up and be like, no, not
right now.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
I clearly started doing the Sanford and Sun songs soon
as you pull in, so like you're getting out of
the car, I'm like, don't don't and then you don't
even look at me.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
I'm like, all right, we'll forget you. Yeah, well you
in two minutes, damn. All right. So uh there is uh,
there's some optimism for a certain team in the NFL. Yeah,
that team would be on this show. Yeah, that team
would be the Chicago Bears. Some optimism. Now, Levar's guy,
(41:41):
the guy who he called and I quote on our
morning show, and Brady can attest to this. LaVar said this, Yeah,
LeVar said, and I quote, Caleb Williams is the most
inspirational player I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, that's
what you said. Thank you mistook me for emotional. It
was okay, emotional, Okay, I just want to I guess.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
So emotion obeabema lose.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
So if you take a gander and you go over
to the d did he hop in?
Speaker 5 (42:16):
Listen, if you hop in the stands into your mama's
arms in a fetal position, then you cry in the
bosoms of your mama, and you revisit that that time
when you first came here and just got here, and
you make the passage like your emotional.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
If I ever, if I ever was good enough to
play I would have done that. Would you have done it? Hell?
Speaker 4 (42:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:35):
I mean Jim, Mom's props for being strong enough to
grab him and pull him up by the way, I
mean she grabbed him, pulled him up, held him, covered
his face. I didn't know how many hands she had.
She had like six hands. Man, Mama's love. Like you know,
they figure it out. Well, you know who's figured it out.
Matty Eberflus, the head coach of All of a Sudden.
(42:56):
He is the favorite to win Coach of the Year
in the NFL LL, followed by Robert Salah and then
Jim Harbaughs. So, Matty, you refleuce with a brand new quarterback?
What is this based off of projections? What's this project?
What's the project?
Speaker 4 (43:12):
Williams?
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Is that it damn right?
Speaker 4 (43:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (43:15):
Keman outlets c W eighteen. Yeah, well, I want to
wager on it. You want to bring lab bet Jesus
even though it.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
Ain't putting a wager on if wins Coach of the Year. Yes,
I don't like that, Bet. I think Williams is gonna
ring Rooky of the Year.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
I think he'll win. Uh. You know what, I'll give
you the field, I'll Williams if you're giving me in
the field, I'll take that. Okay, I'll take that gentleman's wager.
Or for donation? What were we doing?
Speaker 5 (43:48):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Write it down, somebody write it down.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
Lee's got this, he sources. Yeah, sure, we'll do one
hundred dollars donation.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Lee's Lee's holding on to a different type of paper
right now. You gotta be careful when you ride on
one play. But uh so so Matti Eberflus, he's got
this new quarterback, number number one pick of the draft.
(44:17):
They've added pieces around him, not just Keenan Allen, but
they went out and added Gerald Everett. He's going to
be there as well too. They've added DeAndre Swift. He's
there as well too. The offensive line people think is promising.
They've shown flashes. The defensive pretty good defensively, and Mattiflu
(44:37):
defensive head coach. That's right. So if so Shane Waldron
the OC can get the offense on track, it would
make some sense that maybe they would take some strides.
But it's just also an acknowledgment that you know, justin
fields was maybe holding them back at times last year.
I think they end up third or fourth and the
(45:00):
FC North third or fourth in their own division. So
if that, if that equates to you getting Coach of
the Year and getting Rookie of the year, then let's
go with it. But I see Detroit winning it. I
see green Bay maybe edging Detroit out to win it,
so that would give them a second place. So if
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you want to flip flop Detroit in green Bay.
Speaker 5 (45:24):
And the only reason why I would say they have
odds favorite on Minnesota is because they have a rookie
quarterback as well that possibly that's going to start as well.
You got two rookie qbs, but they're going to be
battling it out for third and fourth as well in
their respective division if you ask me. So, I don't
know how you get coach of the year or get
(45:45):
Rookie of the year depending on maybe his his performances,
but you know, it is what it is to me.
That's how I see it.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
They were seven to ten last year, right, they started
off three and fourteen Ibraflusu's first year seven to ten
last year, which you know, you really you could look
at the job that they've done on the roster, I
think as part of the growth that you saw from
justin fields, but also around him, I mean, Gettinghi Dj Moore,
getting him some help the offensive line plows better. That's
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the big question is is the roster in a position
around the quarterback position to be able to look Caleb
Williams could be generational. That was what the word people
throw around about him, you know, the only comp you
can really make to him. Some people, you know, look
at Rogers as far as the way you kind of
throw off platform and kind of the flick of the wrist.
Some say Mahomes whatever you want to compare him to.
(46:34):
When you're using those two names as a comp clearly
people think he's special. And so if he is that special,
how high could he take him in his first year?
I mean, I think he could get them to a
winning record, but if you look at the division around them,
I mean, Minnesota is probably going to be starting a
rookie quarterback. I think it's going to be J. J. McCarthy.
If not, it's going to be Sam Donald to start
(46:54):
off with. And so maybe you feel more optimistic about that.
I'm not really sure how people feel. I think Sam Darnold,
with a talent they have it in Minnesota, could flow
could really flourish could play really well in that system.
We got to see can Detroit replicate what they did
last year. I mean, that's a team that everyone's excited about.
They're excited to watch them. Maybe this time around. You
(47:16):
listen to guys like Aiden Hutchson talk about getting the
super Bowl now, like like this is their year. They
feel like it's they're gonna get to the you know,
NFC Championship game, move on, get the super Bowl. You know,
That's that's where they feel like they're at. And maybe
they are. But it's really really hard to sustain that
level of consistent success. So I'm not saying they're gonna
be a playoff team. I think they're going to improve
(47:37):
on the seven s en record. I think they get
to eight and nine, nine and eight. Their schedule is
kind of funky, that's the only way I can put it,
but it's not the most difficult schedule. The buye comes
about halfway through the season. They start off with Tennessee
at Houston at Indy, and then they go to La
Carolina Jacksonville. It's like spurts of home and then away
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because they come out of the buy plan back to back.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
That's saying like that favorable deal though kind of.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
I mean, I don't know how you guys feel about that.
Like they will basically play a home game November twenty.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Fourth, Carolina, But you know that, I think they might
be able to pull that one out.
Speaker 4 (48:14):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
We're going to get to soon.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
But hear me out, hear me out. They they play
at home November twenty fourth, they don't come back home
again till December twenty second. So that's how their schedule
kind of shapes out. It's a weird, streaky schedule, and
I think sometimes it's hard when you've got either new pieces,
your young pieces, when you have to navigate a schedule
like that. It's hard to get into a rhythm when
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you're back to back weeks on the road, three weeks
at home, back back weeks on the road, a couple
weeks at home. It's tough to adjust to when your
first year playing. I do think they'll be improved.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Also, like how the schedule makers are like, all right,
so it's the Bear's turn to play the AFC South.
How do we want to break this up. We'll give
them Tennessee Houston, Indy the first three weeks. That works,
and then we'll figure out everything else after that, and
then they go play over and they've got that buy
that you mentioned. So if they're a nine win team,
which would be an improvement over the seven from a
year ago, does that get you coach of the year.
(49:10):
Like I look at it, I think Jim Harbaugh at
eleven to one is the one to watch for coach
of the year because there's more knowns than there is
in Chicago. Like, we know Justin Herbert's a good quarterback.
We know that Jim Harbaugh is a good coach. We
know that last year a lot of that had to
do with the Brandon Staley debacle and the fiasco there.
(49:31):
Herbert got injured at some point during the season. I
look at Jim Harbaugh's being the one to watch for
a coach of the year next year because I just
think there's more that you can count on there that
you've seen.
Speaker 5 (49:40):
I'm gonna go out on the ledge and say I'm
looking at a horrorball to be the coach of the year,
But not Jim.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
I'm looking at John God, You're gonna do it again.
I knew it the one. See, let me tell people
behind the scenes, this is what happened here. Lebar and
I had paid the Ravens to go to a super
Bowl or make a deep run for years let us
they keep letting us down, and they always let us down.
And then last year, since we started the show, really
(50:09):
last year was the year I jumped off. But last
year was the year that we were like finally, like
all right, I'm out of Baltimore. They've broken our hearts
too many times. And then they go and host an
AFC title game before they melt it down against k C,
and so now it's like, no, no, now we're gonna
get batter stuff. That's why I'm not. That's why I'm not.
(50:32):
I'm not No, I'm not doing it. I'm not going
to reverse coat. I'll take Jim. I'm gonna stick with
John this years for John, Well take it, John the
Great pat Bull. And so Brady, who's your coach of
(50:52):
the year? You got? You gotta put your your harder
and costco dollars down on some coach of the year
action who you got?
Speaker 4 (50:59):
Man, that's a tough one because I feel like this
is one of the harder award winners in the NFL
season to predict, only because you know, you look at
like a team that suffers a bunch of injuries like
Cleveland last year, and then it leads to Kevin Stefans
having four quarterbacks start for him, And so it's like
(51:19):
you're not anticipating battling through adverse like that, true man,
because because in my head, I'm thinking more similar to LeVar,
like John Harbaugh, a team that finally gets over the
hump get to the super Bowl, like they win it,
but oftentimes it ends up being a team that battles
through something.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
So I hear you're you want to give you the
odds the list of names, all right, So iber Flus
is the favorite on DraftKings at nine to one, followed
by Robert Sala, Levar's guy, and then Jim Harbaugh eleven
to one, and then you've got Matt Lafleur, Raheem Morris,
Dmko Ryans, Jonathan Gannon, Dan Campbell.
Speaker 4 (51:56):
Mak O.
Speaker 5 (51:57):
Ryan's is a good one if he can have a
repeat performed. It's the last year. That's a good one
to throw in the mill.
Speaker 4 (52:02):
Because I mean he was essentially second this year, right
was he? I mean he's I thought he was next
up to Stefanski in the phone. Is that not right?
Speaker 3 (52:10):
I think so.
Speaker 4 (52:12):
That would have been. That would have been who I
voted for otherwise outside of Stefanski.
Speaker 5 (52:15):
I mean, what a bang, bang up job he did.
If he can, if he can do that again this year, dude, man,
why wouldn't he get it?
Speaker 4 (52:24):
I'm just gonna say, Robert Solid steal a good move, Jesus,
good move.
Speaker 3 (52:31):
What I said, Jesus, that's a good move. Well, it
is The Herd here on Fox Sports Radio, Brady Quinn,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up next year, though,
we are going to tell you about how one team
in the NFL continues to outdo themselves. They find new
ways every single week to top what they did a
(52:52):
week prior. It's yours right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
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