July 26, 2024 • 31 mins
Colin believes Dak Prescott would have a long list of suitors if he's unable to agree to terms on a new contract with the Cowboys after this season. He tells you why the Packers have clearly been the best organization in the NFL over the last 30 years. Plus Colin talks to Gonzaga head coach Mark Few live from Paris to get his first-hand experience coaching Team USA at the Olympics and why LeBron James is still so impressive at this point in his career
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
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Here it's the Herd wherever you may be and however
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your day. Good night's sleep, lot of energy. We're bouncing
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all over the country today, New York Stealer Camp. It
is such a good time of the year, such a
good time. Jmack joining me as well. So one of
the things I've said for years, you know, the hat
on forward thing, which is sort of medical metaphorical. I
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don't care who wears their hat which way except quarterbacks
when they go to the podium. And that's basically about maturity.
And understanding and self awareness. Right, And I've said this
for years. I don't think Dak has a great arm
or as a great athlete, but his hypermaturity. He's an
adult yet non emotional in big emotional moments. But he
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was getting sort of emotional yesterday because right like this
is his last year guaranteed for the Dallas Cowboys. His
contract will be up, and as usual, Dak was able
to see through everything in land a comment on his
future in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
It's a business, and.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
You know, and.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I'm gonna say I want to be here, but you know,
and you look up all the great quarterbacks I watch
played for other teams. So my point in saying that
is that that's not something to fear. That may be
a reality for me one day, may not be my decision.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I love that I'm not afraid to go into the market.
Love it here, but not afraid. And I think Dak
would actually have a bigger market than you think. I
think he'd have a bigger market than Tom Brady at
the end, I do. I think he'd have a bigger
market than Aaron Dgers or Russell Wilson. I do Russell
as we know, little cringe e don't get that with Dak,
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A lot of drama with Aaron Rodgers. You don't get
that with Dak. Tom Brady's age, Dak's only thirty one. Dak,
you get no cringe, no age concerns, no maintenance, no drama,
very productive. Can win twelve games a year, his floor
eight wins, his ceiling twelve. Probably not a super Bowl,
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but I mean, think of all these really talented near
the top of the draft, quarterbacks, Cam Newton, Deshaun Watson
and Baker Mayfield, a bit combative, Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray,
competition and commitment issues. How much do they win? You know,
wins Jared Goff, Dak, Kirk Cousins, Jalen Hurts, the guys
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that don't give you a lot of drama. Justin Herbert's
going to start winning a lot. Is that if you
ask general managers, they're looking for a coach on the field,
They're not looking for drama and maintenance and passive aggressive.
I mean, Green Bay moved off Aaron Rodgers and he
just won several MVPs. Darkness retreats the guy coaches GM
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still don't want to deal with any of that nonsense,
and so Dak's maturity. This is what I've been banging
on for years. Had on forward, say the right thing,
put a wet blanket on a potential fire. All this stuff,
it's what GMS look at. I think Dak would have
a really big market. I think it's highly probable that
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the Raiders and the Panthers and the Giants and maybe
the Seahawks and the Titans would all be interested at
the end of the season. So Dallas needs to know that, Well,
they'll be a market. It'll be bigger than Aaron's market.
It'll be bigger than Tom's market. And you think, oh,
that's crazy. He's thirty one, twelve wins, no drama, productive.
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Dak doesn't even have great weapons now, and he had
the number one offense in the league. And you can't
you can't give McCarthy credit. Right, he's a bomb. Everybody
thinks he's a bomb. Remember, thirty percent of this league
has chaos at quarterback. You never have that with Dak.
His floor is eight and eight. Here's another thing, it's
not a great college quarterback draft next year. Here's another thing.
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If two n Jordan loves signed contracts and they will,
who's quarterback? Two on the market that won't be any
It'll be Dak and Sam Darnold ish players. So Dak's
gonna have market. That doesn't mean you necessarily have to
overpay him. I don't have a problem. I don't like
people that live in fear go to the college draft
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and draft somebody. But it's not a great college quarterback draft.
It's okay, it's not great. There's not going to be
a market outside of Jordan Love and to assign. And
you know, it's interesting. You can always tell your value
in my business, your business, football business. What's your market
when you're a free agent? What is your market? I
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think Dax would be pretty big. Six seven teams minimum.
And again I was thinking about this last night and
this morning. I don't want to pay him sixty one
million dollars, but he is really like a Ceedee lamb.
He's going to have a lot of leverage. Here's Jerry
Jones talking about Dak's contract.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
I do not that this will be his last year
with Cowboys at all. I mean, it's pretty clear. I
won't say it if it hadn't been clear. Of how
much we appreciate what Dak Prescott has meant to this
team in a positive way. But believe it or not,
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in my life, I've had a lot of things I
wanted that I couldn't get because I couldn't afford him.
Now have I learned to live with that in eighty
something years, You bet I have. And life does go on.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Interesting. Also, Jerry was asked why he didn't give Mike
McCarthy an extension, and he said green Bay And I
was thinking about that. Remember they got humiliated, not just
a loss, but humiliated, trailed twenty seven. Nothing at home.
The Packers got blown out by Jordan Love, But that
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Green Bay route and two years ago that Dak scramble
clock management snaffoo. Unsee those and either Canjerry. That just
drove me absolutely crazy. DA's running down the middle of
the field, not calling a time out, have to hurry
to the line. You can't unsee that. And here's the
thing with football coaches that's different than every other coach
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in America, different than hockey, baseball, and basketball coaches. There's
very few games, and we watch football in America, college
in pro and with only one game a week. If
you screw up, we talk about it for the next
six games. So one moment one clock snaffo gets a
lot of college in pro football coaches fired. I mean
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Jim Harbaugh first year at Michigan, and he's a great coach.
First year at Michigan, five wins to ten, but he
lose to Ohio State end of the year or a
bowl game, and he'd get rip for the next five
or six months. If Harbaugh the right guy, of course
he was the right guy. He's a Michigan guy. Doubled
the wind total, improved recruited. Of course he was the
right guy. But until he won the Natty. Every year
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he lost to Ohio State in the last big game
that mattered, he'd get hammered. Doc Rivers has lost a
lot of game, situational basketball games, playoff games. But there's
a game tomorrow. He's been hired five times as a
coach despite that. If McCarthy doesn't work here, he'll never
be a head coach again because it's the scarcity of games.
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It's the one sport we watched in America, and you
can't unsee stuff. And that green Bay loss wasn't just
a loss, And Jerry Jones said it yesterday. Why didn't
you give him an extension? Green Bay? It was forty
eight to sixteen at one point. At home it was
twenty seven to nothing. So and I kind of backed
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Jerry Jones on this, and I like Mike McCarthy. You
can lose, but you can't lose like that at home
in the final game of the year for not getting
an extension. And that's what football coaches faced that hockey, basketball,
and baseball managers don't one game a week. It lingers
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for six days until the next Sunday. And if you
lose that last game like Green Bay and in that fashion,
you're not gonna get an extension. And that's why Mike
McCarthy twelve wins, twelve wins, twelve wins, is on the
hot seat. Two plays, right, like two games, one play
in San Francisco and the game against Green Bay. That's it.
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Those two moments is why j mac. There's a lot
going on. We're gonna go to Paris. Mark Few, assistant
basketball coach to Steve Kerr. Mark's been doing that year's
Gonzaga coach is gonna stop by. He's in Paris. My
kids are having a blast over there. It's a little warm,
food's great, a lot of security. They're telling me there's
a lot of security over there.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
Well, you got to ask them about Kevin Durant. But
can we go back to dak in this alleged robust
market thing you feel will be there. So it's actually
a pretty decent quarterback draft, right Carson Beck at the
top of Georgia, that's the guarantee. I know you're lower
than market on Quinn Eewers, but he is very good
and promising, and he's considered a top ten pick right
now by a lot. Shaduur Sanders is out there.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Shadure Sanders has had a bad year of Hey, look
at me, I'm Shaduur Sanders. There are over half the
teams in the league. Will be totally turned off.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
That's entirely possible. Now he could pop again. Now, how
about this kid, Jalen Milroe from Alabama.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
The tools are.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
There, accuracies a little spotty, we'll see. But you mentioned
this kid drew a lair the Penn State.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
He would be my second pick. Wow, he's still got
a lot to put one. There's only one college quarterback
that everybody likes, the Georgia kid.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
Well, yes, yes, but that being said, outside of like
the five guys who could go top ten Colin Like,
if you're the Minnesota Vikings, you just saw them go
like Sam Darnold as a bridge quarterback that nobody wants
to pay a quarterback fifty mil. And that's where I
think he runs into a problem. The only team I
see potentially going for Dak is the Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
That's really the only one.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
If they're drafting top three, they're taking a quarterback, right
they're not paying fifty milis.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I think next year's quarterback draft, I think there's a
lot of names. There is one that everybody likes. This year,
there were two that everybody didn't like, two that everybody loved,
Caleb and Jadele. There were three that everybody thought could
hit McCarthy, Michael Pennix, Bonix. Yeah, so you had five
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where there was very little negativity. The kid at Penn State,
Raw Colorado a lot of ego. Now there is one
quarterback in this class, and so if you're not at
the very top, Carolina is in such a bad division.
You know, Cowboys or Giant in a better division. So
Carolina could have the third pick. My take is they
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would probably go to the market in that owner David
Tepper does not want to start over again. He wants wins.
And remember remember this is that a cowboy quarterback comes
in well known. What does Carolina have to do? Sell tickets?
So Dak Prescott sells tickets in college basketball, NASCAR, Heaven, Charlotte,
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he sells tickets.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
I guess my issue is like, Okay, so Dak's gonna
come in at fifty mil. The Panthers already have garbage
skill position players right there, one.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Of the weakest things.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
So like, now you can't go spend because you're paying
Dak all the money. I just it's a tough one.
Like you're paying Dak fifty mil, and there's gonna be
a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
He's going to get more than fifty. He'll get sixty
on the market. Now, remember this year the cap went
up like fourteen million, more than people suspect that it would.
So sixty million will feel like a couple of years
ago fifty five or fifty million. But so that is
something to think about. All this television revenue, all this
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gambling revenue is going to move the cap up. So
sixty sounds crazy today, but it won't be in a year.
Sixty will be fifty in a year, right, I'm just
telling you, Dak is mature. If Dak wins ten games
this year, you're gonna say he's won twelve, twelve, twelve
and ten mature. Who isn't gonna like that? That's in
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chaos at quarterback and he's just again, Dakar.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
Wins ten games with the Vikings.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
By the way, ask yourself this if when my dad passed,
you know, I learned a little bit about wills and
uh and when when when parents hand you know, the
money out if they have any and they pass, They're
not necessarily always handing it out to the smartest kid
or the nicest kid. They're giving it to the most
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mature kid who can handle dealing with the will, who
can the executor of the will the parents look at
who's the grown up of the kids who can handle
it emotionally. Dak maybe the best quarterback in the league
at the podium since Brady retired, and he was probably
number two to Brady. Forever he puts out fires, he
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says the right stuff. David Tepper in Carolina is not
gonna roll the dice in a college kid when he's
losing season ticket holders because they can't win games. He's
gonna go get that really popular national name back from
the Cowboys. And you don't think the Giants would be interested.
You think they want to go back to the draft
and do another five years with the Daniel Jones knockoff
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Ryan Dabel. Dabel's gonna say I can win fourteen games
with Dak. He'll be thirty one, thirty two at the time.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
By the way, a Riley Leonard, a Notre Dame quarterback,
who was it Duke? He is supposedly like in the
Daniel Jones mold, so you can get you know, discount
Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
In the draft. Timing is everything. It's an average to
week quarterback class. And who's quarterback two on the market,
I'd say timing and price point. I think people are
willing to pay. Look at Kirk Cousins, what he made.
Price points important. But Kirk Cousins and Dak, you're gonna
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pay more than you want. There are some things you're
gonna pay more than you want. Your Kirk is a
great point.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Didn't he get forty million a year?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, and off a surgery at thirty nine. Dak's gonna
be Dak's thirty one today and no big health issues
and winning more than Kirk Cousins. I like how you
spend money, huh. I like, I mean there's certain things
in life. Transportation, I'm gonna spend what I'm gonna spend. Quarterbacks.
I gotta spend what I gotta spend. If I want
Josh Allen or Lamar Malmes, I gotta spend what I
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gotta spend. I'll make I'll make it up on guards, linebackers,
safeties and slot corners, tight ends. I'm not I'm not
going cheap on quarterbacks, toilet paper, quarterbacks, Transportation, don't go cheap.
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So it's been called hold In, not hold out, hold
In week in green Bay because Jordan Love is around
on the facility, but he doesn't want to practice and
get hurt before the big contract. So I think Green
Bay is really the most amazing story in American sports
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if you really think about it. So Belichick and Brady
Mahomes and Andy Reid have you know, They've dominated the
trophies in the intention attention in football for twenty some years.
But here's what's interesting. So Greenby's got no owner, which
I think can be a real negative or a positive,
but no owner to get on the phone and just
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make a deal. It's the least attractive free agent market
for splashy free agents because it's a town of one
hundred thousand or one hundred and five thousand, very cold,
windy weather. A lot of skilled players don't want to
play in that. Most guys would rather play in Miami
than Green Bay. Sorry, it's true. And yet they've been
the model of consistency in the NFL for thirty two years.
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Smallest pro market and I'm not sure if people realize
since Brett Farr arrived thirty two years ago, they have
the second most win in the sport to New England.
They've got two Super Bowl wins, nine conference championship appearances,
and twenty three playoff appearances in thirty two years. That
is insane when you consider now they're on their third quarterback,
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their third starting quarterback. It'd be one thing if Brady
hogged up twenty years or Mahomes plays for seventeen. Now
they're on their third. Nobody is more consistent since Brett
fav arrived with offense. They're the number one offense overall
in the last thirty two years as they're on their
third quarterback. That's insane. Nobody does offensive lines better, Nobody
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does quarterback better, the most valuable position. Little Green Bay.
And think about that in terms of weather. They don't
play indoors, and they don't just play outdoors. It's one
of the coldest, snowiest, reasonably windiest markets in the league.
Not great for offense, especially in a sport where Thanksgiving
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on is run when all the big games are played.
I mean, the sport's basically a tune up for Thanksgiving
on December games, January games, playoff games February. Seasons getting
extended now so it'll end closer to March. It's just
going to be colder in Green Bay. So to me,
if you're gonna doubt Green Bay on quarterbacks or offense,
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do it at your own peril. Both New York franchises
a circus, Big market DC, big market Atlanta, big market Chicago.
I've been a mess on and off for the last
thirty two years. I don't second guess Green Bay. I
don't second guess them on coaching hires. I don't second
guess them on offensive line decisions or quarterback decisions. I mean,
think about this, Aaron Rodgers, MVP MVP MVP leaves. They
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bring in another kid from Utah State, and they had
more touchdown passes, more yards, more yards for play, more touchdowns, scored,
everything across the board, replacing Aaron Rodgers. I'm done second guessing. However,
the hold in works. Whatever the Packers do, I'm good
with it.
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going to go to Pittsburgh Steelers camp. By the way,
Justin Fields is getting quarterback one reps. Russell Wilson's being
held out. He's got like a sore calf or sore hamstring.
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I think that's fascinating. I think because I think Russell
Wilson and Mike Tomlin are both kind of in the
same boat. Like they both got rings.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
They've both been to multiple Super Bowls, but Tomlin has
not won a playoff game in what seven years? And
Russell hasn't won consecutive playoff games in ten and so
they both have, you know, reputations. You know that there
there was a time Russell Wilson had a Hall of
Fame shot about four years ago. You thought he had
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a shot. Mike Tomlin may or may not get in.
Pretty tough, but Mike Shanahan's not in the Hall of Fame.
It's tougher for coaches. But I will tell you that
I think it's kind of fascinating because we talked about
this yesterday, and this is why I want to go
to Steeler camp. Justin Fields is a really popular kid.
He's a nice kid. He's popular. He's gonna be wildly impressive.
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And this Steeler team got a lot of young players.
They're gonna like him. Russell is rich, not a galvanizer
of a locker room. I mean, that's what history says
in Seattle, and Denvery's not a big galvanizer, not a
big unifier. I don't I like him when I meet him.
Orsi I think they're fine like him. But whatever it is,
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you know, he's not going to have like twelve teammates
at his wedding like that. That's not how he rolls.
And so Justin Fields is the opposite. Even to the
last day, the top players for the Bears loved him.
So if he starts getting reps and listen, we saw
practice video for years. He is a world class athlete,
and he connects with a lot of the young teammates,
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it's gonna be very, very interesting. So Mike Tomlin needs
Russ to perform, and Russ needs Mike Tomlin support. Because
we were talking about this this morning as a staff.
If Russell doesn't do well this year, where's he going.
He's not winning as much as Dak, right, Like, look
at the look at the quarterbacks on the market next year, potentially,
if Dak doesn't get paid, I think he will. I mean,
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Russell's not winning, He's not as elusive. His superpower. Dak's
superpower is his maturity and his unifying quality, his authenticity.
That's Dak. It's not his arm or his legs. Dak
is the unifier. He's liked, he's respected, he's mature. That's
his superpower. Russell's superpower was moving around. He don't move
around like he used to. So I mean every every
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every top quarterback has a superpower. Lamar it's his feet,
Josh Allen at size, Mahomes at arm and so like.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Like.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
If Russell doesn't win this year, what's his market? Now?
Tomlin doesn't win this year. Let's say they go eight
to nine, nine to eight, he could get a job
in five minutes in the NFL or at a network
that has the NFL. I don't worry about that, but
I think it's an important year. They would both love
to get a very big extension. And as good as
Mike Tomlin's been, we just saw Bill Belichick get fired,
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Andy Reid's been fired, Pete Carroll's been fired. John Harbaugh
was on the hot seat before Lamar Jackson. We've seen
Jim Harbaugh get in trouble in San Francisco, all right.
He has never missed the tournament as long as he
has been in Gonzaga. He is now for since twenty
twenty two, Team USA assistant coach Mark Feu my buddy,
Team USA assistant coach joining us live in Paris if A,
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Serbia on Sunday. Look at you. You have lived quite
a life, my friend, and now you've got this team.
My kids are over there by the way. They're loving it,
unlike you. They're not working. They're just sponging off dad.
But you are over there right now. Here's a question.
So when you look at the FEEBA rules, three point
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lines closer, you can camp in the key, you can
goal ten, which I think the NBA should adopt. How
do you coach different? Is it hard to take NBA
guys and say, guys, we got all sorts of different rules.
Speaker 9 (24:09):
Well, first of all, it's great to see you, my friend.
H Yeah, it FOBA is a lot different as it says. Actually,
we have our whole film room kind of with different
phrases and words, kind of get the guys dialed in.
But yeah, it is, you know, to be honest with you,
it's a it's much more like.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
The college game. Uh.
Speaker 9 (24:31):
There's there's probably twenty five percent less possessions on average.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
It's a much more physical game. As you alluded to.
Speaker 9 (24:40):
You know, you can camp in the key like you
can in college. On defense, you know, the help side
just stays in there. Uh, And then you know it's different.
It's different. I mean in the NBA is a lot
of isolation. Isolations. Get the switch play against that FOBA.
There's a lot of cutting moving, you know, secution style offenses,
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and uh so it's it's a big adjustment for this group,
and that's what we've been kind of, you know, working through.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
All your guys are rich, they're stars. Shoe deals. You've
told me before though, You're like you, yeah, sure, my
shoe deals. But I always am kind of impressed how
good the chemistry is with Olympic teams. Take me there.
Why these stars all sort of say, hey, man, I'm
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in on this. Are you ever surprised by? How is
it easy?
Speaker 4 (25:39):
I mean, it's been great to just be a part
of it.
Speaker 9 (25:42):
I mean they genuinely, really truly like each other and
enjoyed being around each other.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
It's not fake.
Speaker 9 (25:49):
I think there's just such a respect for each other's games.
And for a guys that's against the Gonzaga guy right there,
that's Lebron going right at Philip patrusive. Come on now,
who picked that highlight out? It's real though, and I
think it's based, you know, out of respect and then
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a lot like you know, these guys have played against
each other, whether it's an AAU or you know, obviously
in the NBA seasons and and and playoffs and it's
just I think they just love being on the same
team with each other. Now, the flip side of that,
Colin is they're such good guys and and trying to
be so unselfish. I mean, we've had to kind of
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remind a lot of them to just you know, they
play their game and play to your strengths and you know,
take that your instinct is to take that shot, so
you know, take it when it when that opportunity comes,
and not you know, make a nice pass, just trying
to be a good guy.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
By the way, you told me years ago you were
so impressed with Kevin Durant, the person and the player.
He's battling an injury. How do you and Steve Kirk
kind of you know, you don't want to put him
out there if he's hurt, But I actually think one
of the things you miss is a big that can
shoot from the outside. Where are we with Kevin right now?
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Well, thank you for helping coach our team. We always
appreciate that.
Speaker 9 (27:11):
Uh Hey, he's had a couple of great workouts he
practiced with us. He's just been awesome through this whole
process of just hanging in there and hanging in there
and and you know, hopefully this week we'll be able
to get him out there and and and see him
in live action. We had a great scrimmage yesterday. It
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was it was lively, it was competitive, and and and
Katie uh participated with us and and uh and and
then it's just kind of about evaluating, you know, what
he's capable of handling, as well as you know, fitting
him in with a team that's been kind of kind of.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Uh, you know, rocking and rolling here. We've been at
it for almost almost a month.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Anthony Davis used to drive me nuts the last two years.
I think he's the most underrated player in the game.
I think he got his body right. I don't know
if you've ever coached him before. I think he's been
unbelievable in your five and zero exhibition, just absolutely what
do you make of him? He is just on fire
the last two.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Years, Colin. This is why I like you so much.
Speaker 9 (28:17):
Just out of nowhere you come with just these brilliant
nuggets of information. He has been phenomenal and I have
not had the pleasure of being around him prior to
this experience. He is just I can't be I don't
think i've ever been as impressed with anybody just on
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the floor, off the floor, what he's doing for us defensively,
what he's capable of doing defensively, switching, dropping, protecting the rim,
and offensively, he's done a great job of getting us
extra possessions, crashing the glass. I mean, it's just been phenomenal.
(29:00):
And we've been able to kind of bring him and
Bam off the bench, which is really kind of.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
You know, energized us, and it's great to have those two.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
It kind of switches how we play and changes, you know,
our coverages, and and it unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
This is my description of him thus far.
Speaker 9 (29:19):
And hopefully he can keep it rolling because he's been
a huge key for us.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
One minute left. Are you surprised Lebron is still this dominant?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
That's the other thing I mean, and I want to
talk about.
Speaker 9 (29:34):
I want to talk Lebron and Steph just how impressive
I am with just their approach to the game. And
I mean, what they've done for basketball and the example
they've set for I mean, I think the players that
are playing in all these games, whether they're from America
or from other countries, Gosh, their preparation, their approach, Lebron
(29:55):
gets in the gym and is ready to roll and
doesn't do anything less than full speed in any drill
or any practice. And the and the best thing he
does that I'm just so impressed with is he communicates.
He's an incredible communicator on offense and defense and in
every drill.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
And then Steph is just amazing also with just.
Speaker 9 (30:16):
How hard he goes, how meticulous he is with his
his work, he stays after practice and I it's just
an absolute joy to watch his post workout shooting practice.
It's it's game speed, at game spots, at shooting game shots.
I mean, it's you need to tape it for every
(30:37):
you know, young basketball player out there, and just phenomenal
human beings.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Two of my favorite people Steve Steve Kurr and Mark
Few congrats you look fantastic. Why don't you'll have a
glass of pino tonight?
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Ky Lou and Eric Spolster. I don't forget those two.
Those those guys have been phenomenal.
Speaker 9 (30:54):
It's it's just a joy to be able to hang
with those guys. And granted ill Uh at night in
and night out, unbelievable good senior.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Mark as Al was great seeing you
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
It is a Friday. We're gonna have our best show
of the week. We're going to Paris, Team USA Basketball,
We're going to Pennsylvania Steeler Camp. Live in Los Angeles.
Here it's the Herd wherever you may be and however
you may be listening. Thanks for Megan as part of
your day. Good night's sleep, lot of energy. We're bouncing
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all over the country today, New York Stealer Camp. It
is such a good time of the year, such a
good time. Jmack joining me as well. So one of
the things I've said for years, you know, the hat
on forward thing, which is sort of medical metaphorical. I
(01:08):
don't care who wears their hat which way except quarterbacks
when they go to the podium. And that's basically about maturity.
And understanding and self awareness. Right, And I've said this
for years. I don't think Dak has a great arm
or as a great athlete, but his hypermaturity. He's an
adult yet non emotional in big emotional moments. But he
(01:30):
was getting sort of emotional yesterday because right like this
is his last year guaranteed for the Dallas Cowboys. His
contract will be up, and as usual, Dak was able
to see through everything in land a comment on his
future in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
It's a business, and.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
You know, and.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I'm gonna say I want to be here, but you know,
and you look up all the great quarterbacks I watch
played for other teams. So my point in saying that
is that that's not something to fear. That may be
a reality for me one day, may not be my decision.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I love that I'm not afraid to go into the market.
Love it here, but not afraid. And I think Dak
would actually have a bigger market than you think. I
think he'd have a bigger market than Tom Brady at
the end, I do. I think he'd have a bigger
market than Aaron Dgers or Russell Wilson. I do Russell
as we know, little cringe e don't get that with Dak,
(02:31):
A lot of drama with Aaron Rodgers. You don't get
that with Dak. Tom Brady's age, Dak's only thirty one. Dak,
you get no cringe, no age concerns, no maintenance, no drama,
very productive. Can win twelve games a year, his floor
eight wins, his ceiling twelve. Probably not a super Bowl,
(02:52):
but I mean, think of all these really talented near
the top of the draft, quarterbacks, Cam Newton, Deshaun Watson
and Baker Mayfield, a bit combative, Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray,
competition and commitment issues. How much do they win? You know,
wins Jared Goff, Dak, Kirk Cousins, Jalen Hurts, the guys
(03:16):
that don't give you a lot of drama. Justin Herbert's
going to start winning a lot. Is that if you
ask general managers, they're looking for a coach on the field,
They're not looking for drama and maintenance and passive aggressive.
I mean, Green Bay moved off Aaron Rodgers and he
just won several MVPs. Darkness retreats the guy coaches GM
(03:38):
still don't want to deal with any of that nonsense,
and so Dak's maturity. This is what I've been banging
on for years. Had on forward, say the right thing,
put a wet blanket on a potential fire. All this stuff,
it's what GMS look at. I think Dak would have
a really big market. I think it's highly probable that
(04:00):
the Raiders and the Panthers and the Giants and maybe
the Seahawks and the Titans would all be interested at
the end of the season. So Dallas needs to know that, Well,
they'll be a market. It'll be bigger than Aaron's market.
It'll be bigger than Tom's market. And you think, oh,
that's crazy. He's thirty one, twelve wins, no drama, productive.
(04:23):
Dak doesn't even have great weapons now, and he had
the number one offense in the league. And you can't
you can't give McCarthy credit. Right, he's a bomb. Everybody
thinks he's a bomb. Remember, thirty percent of this league
has chaos at quarterback. You never have that with Dak.
His floor is eight and eight. Here's another thing, it's
not a great college quarterback draft next year. Here's another thing.
(04:47):
If two n Jordan loves signed contracts and they will,
who's quarterback? Two on the market that won't be any
It'll be Dak and Sam Darnold ish players. So Dak's
gonna have market. That doesn't mean you necessarily have to
overpay him. I don't have a problem. I don't like
people that live in fear go to the college draft
(05:10):
and draft somebody. But it's not a great college quarterback draft.
It's okay, it's not great. There's not going to be
a market outside of Jordan Love and to assign. And
you know, it's interesting. You can always tell your value
in my business, your business, football business. What's your market
when you're a free agent? What is your market? I
(05:31):
think Dax would be pretty big. Six seven teams minimum.
And again I was thinking about this last night and
this morning. I don't want to pay him sixty one
million dollars, but he is really like a Ceedee lamb.
He's going to have a lot of leverage. Here's Jerry
Jones talking about Dak's contract.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
I do not that this will be his last year
with Cowboys at all. I mean, it's pretty clear. I
won't say it if it hadn't been clear. Of how
much we appreciate what Dak Prescott has meant to this
team in a positive way. But believe it or not,
(06:13):
in my life, I've had a lot of things I
wanted that I couldn't get because I couldn't afford him.
Now have I learned to live with that in eighty
something years, You bet I have. And life does go on.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Interesting. Also, Jerry was asked why he didn't give Mike
McCarthy an extension, and he said green Bay And I
was thinking about that. Remember they got humiliated, not just
a loss, but humiliated, trailed twenty seven. Nothing at home.
The Packers got blown out by Jordan Love, But that
(06:52):
Green Bay route and two years ago that Dak scramble
clock management snaffoo. Unsee those and either Canjerry. That just
drove me absolutely crazy. DA's running down the middle of
the field, not calling a time out, have to hurry
to the line. You can't unsee that. And here's the
thing with football coaches that's different than every other coach
(07:15):
in America, different than hockey, baseball, and basketball coaches. There's
very few games, and we watch football in America, college
in pro and with only one game a week. If
you screw up, we talk about it for the next
six games. So one moment one clock snaffo gets a
lot of college in pro football coaches fired. I mean
(07:39):
Jim Harbaugh first year at Michigan, and he's a great coach.
First year at Michigan, five wins to ten, but he
lose to Ohio State end of the year or a
bowl game, and he'd get rip for the next five
or six months. If Harbaugh the right guy, of course
he was the right guy. He's a Michigan guy. Doubled
the wind total, improved recruited. Of course he was the
right guy. But until he won the Natty. Every year
(08:01):
he lost to Ohio State in the last big game
that mattered, he'd get hammered. Doc Rivers has lost a
lot of game, situational basketball games, playoff games. But there's
a game tomorrow. He's been hired five times as a
coach despite that. If McCarthy doesn't work here, he'll never
be a head coach again because it's the scarcity of games.
(08:22):
It's the one sport we watched in America, and you
can't unsee stuff. And that green Bay loss wasn't just
a loss, And Jerry Jones said it yesterday. Why didn't
you give him an extension? Green Bay? It was forty
eight to sixteen at one point. At home it was
twenty seven to nothing. So and I kind of backed
(08:43):
Jerry Jones on this, and I like Mike McCarthy. You
can lose, but you can't lose like that at home
in the final game of the year for not getting
an extension. And that's what football coaches faced that hockey, basketball,
and baseball managers don't one game a week. It lingers
(09:04):
for six days until the next Sunday. And if you
lose that last game like Green Bay and in that fashion,
you're not gonna get an extension. And that's why Mike
McCarthy twelve wins, twelve wins, twelve wins, is on the
hot seat. Two plays, right, like two games, one play
in San Francisco and the game against Green Bay. That's it.
(09:26):
Those two moments is why j mac. There's a lot
going on. We're gonna go to Paris. Mark Few, assistant
basketball coach to Steve Kerr. Mark's been doing that year's
Gonzaga coach is gonna stop by. He's in Paris. My
kids are having a blast over there. It's a little warm,
food's great, a lot of security. They're telling me there's
a lot of security over there.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
Well, you got to ask them about Kevin Durant. But
can we go back to dak in this alleged robust
market thing you feel will be there. So it's actually
a pretty decent quarterback draft, right Carson Beck at the
top of Georgia, that's the guarantee. I know you're lower
than market on Quinn Eewers, but he is very good
and promising, and he's considered a top ten pick right
now by a lot. Shaduur Sanders is out there.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Shadure Sanders has had a bad year of Hey, look
at me, I'm Shaduur Sanders. There are over half the
teams in the league. Will be totally turned off.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
That's entirely possible. Now he could pop again. Now, how
about this kid, Jalen Milroe from Alabama.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
The tools are.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
There, accuracies a little spotty, we'll see. But you mentioned
this kid drew a lair the Penn State.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
He would be my second pick. Wow, he's still got
a lot to put one. There's only one college quarterback
that everybody likes, the Georgia kid.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
Well, yes, yes, but that being said, outside of like
the five guys who could go top ten Colin Like,
if you're the Minnesota Vikings, you just saw them go
like Sam Darnold as a bridge quarterback that nobody wants
to pay a quarterback fifty mil. And that's where I
think he runs into a problem. The only team I
see potentially going for Dak is the Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
That's really the only one.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
If they're drafting top three, they're taking a quarterback, right
they're not paying fifty milis.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I think next year's quarterback draft, I think there's a
lot of names. There is one that everybody likes. This year,
there were two that everybody didn't like, two that everybody loved,
Caleb and Jadele. There were three that everybody thought could
hit McCarthy, Michael Pennix, Bonix. Yeah, so you had five
(11:26):
where there was very little negativity. The kid at Penn State,
Raw Colorado a lot of ego. Now there is one
quarterback in this class, and so if you're not at
the very top, Carolina is in such a bad division.
You know, Cowboys or Giant in a better division. So
Carolina could have the third pick. My take is they
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would probably go to the market in that owner David
Tepper does not want to start over again. He wants wins.
And remember remember this is that a cowboy quarterback comes
in well known. What does Carolina have to do? Sell tickets?
So Dak Prescott sells tickets in college basketball, NASCAR, Heaven, Charlotte,
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he sells tickets.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
I guess my issue is like, Okay, so Dak's gonna
come in at fifty mil. The Panthers already have garbage
skill position players right there, one.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Of the weakest things.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
So like, now you can't go spend because you're paying
Dak all the money. I just it's a tough one.
Like you're paying Dak fifty mil, and there's gonna be
a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
He's going to get more than fifty. He'll get sixty
on the market. Now, remember this year the cap went
up like fourteen million, more than people suspect that it would.
So sixty million will feel like a couple of years
ago fifty five or fifty million. But so that is
something to think about. All this television revenue, all this
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gambling revenue is going to move the cap up. So
sixty sounds crazy today, but it won't be in a year.
Sixty will be fifty in a year, right, I'm just
telling you, Dak is mature. If Dak wins ten games
this year, you're gonna say he's won twelve, twelve, twelve
and ten mature. Who isn't gonna like that? That's in
(13:12):
chaos at quarterback and he's just again, Dakar.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
Wins ten games with the Vikings.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
By the way, ask yourself this if when my dad passed,
you know, I learned a little bit about wills and
uh and when when when parents hand you know, the
money out if they have any and they pass, They're
not necessarily always handing it out to the smartest kid
or the nicest kid. They're giving it to the most
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mature kid who can handle dealing with the will, who
can the executor of the will the parents look at
who's the grown up of the kids who can handle
it emotionally. Dak maybe the best quarterback in the league
at the podium since Brady retired, and he was probably
number two to Brady. Forever he puts out fires, he
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says the right stuff. David Tepper in Carolina is not
gonna roll the dice in a college kid when he's
losing season ticket holders because they can't win games. He's
gonna go get that really popular national name back from
the Cowboys. And you don't think the Giants would be interested.
You think they want to go back to the draft
and do another five years with the Daniel Jones knockoff
(14:23):
Ryan Dabel. Dabel's gonna say I can win fourteen games
with Dak. He'll be thirty one, thirty two at the time.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
By the way, a Riley Leonard, a Notre Dame quarterback,
who was it Duke? He is supposedly like in the
Daniel Jones mold, so you can get you know, discount
Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
In the draft. Timing is everything. It's an average to
week quarterback class. And who's quarterback two on the market,
I'd say timing and price point. I think people are
willing to pay. Look at Kirk Cousins, what he made.
Price points important. But Kirk Cousins and Dak, you're gonna
(15:00):
pay more than you want. There are some things you're
gonna pay more than you want. Your Kirk is a
great point.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Didn't he get forty million a year?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, and off a surgery at thirty nine. Dak's gonna
be Dak's thirty one today and no big health issues
and winning more than Kirk Cousins. I like how you
spend money, huh. I like, I mean there's certain things
in life. Transportation, I'm gonna spend what I'm gonna spend. Quarterbacks.
I gotta spend what I gotta spend. If I want
Josh Allen or Lamar Malmes, I gotta spend what I
(15:27):
gotta spend. I'll make I'll make it up on guards, linebackers,
safeties and slot corners, tight ends. I'm not I'm not
going cheap on quarterbacks, toilet paper, quarterbacks, Transportation, don't go cheap.
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Speaker 1 (15:49):
So it's been called hold In, not hold out, hold
In week in green Bay because Jordan Love is around
on the facility, but he doesn't want to practice and
get hurt before the big contract. So I think Green
Bay is really the most amazing story in American sports
(16:10):
if you really think about it. So Belichick and Brady
Mahomes and Andy Reid have you know, They've dominated the
trophies in the intention attention in football for twenty some years.
But here's what's interesting. So Greenby's got no owner, which
I think can be a real negative or a positive,
but no owner to get on the phone and just
(16:31):
make a deal. It's the least attractive free agent market
for splashy free agents because it's a town of one
hundred thousand or one hundred and five thousand, very cold,
windy weather. A lot of skilled players don't want to
play in that. Most guys would rather play in Miami
than Green Bay. Sorry, it's true. And yet they've been
the model of consistency in the NFL for thirty two years.
(16:52):
Smallest pro market and I'm not sure if people realize
since Brett Farr arrived thirty two years ago, they have
the second most win in the sport to New England.
They've got two Super Bowl wins, nine conference championship appearances,
and twenty three playoff appearances in thirty two years. That
is insane when you consider now they're on their third quarterback,
(17:17):
their third starting quarterback. It'd be one thing if Brady
hogged up twenty years or Mahomes plays for seventeen. Now
they're on their third. Nobody is more consistent since Brett
fav arrived with offense. They're the number one offense overall
in the last thirty two years as they're on their
third quarterback. That's insane. Nobody does offensive lines better, Nobody
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does quarterback better, the most valuable position. Little Green Bay.
And think about that in terms of weather. They don't
play indoors, and they don't just play outdoors. It's one
of the coldest, snowiest, reasonably windiest markets in the league.
Not great for offense, especially in a sport where Thanksgiving
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on is run when all the big games are played.
I mean, the sport's basically a tune up for Thanksgiving
on December games, January games, playoff games February. Seasons getting
extended now so it'll end closer to March. It's just
going to be colder in Green Bay. So to me,
if you're gonna doubt Green Bay on quarterbacks or offense,
(18:23):
do it at your own peril. Both New York franchises
a circus, Big market DC, big market Atlanta, big market Chicago.
I've been a mess on and off for the last
thirty two years. I don't second guess Green Bay. I
don't second guess them on coaching hires. I don't second
guess them on offensive line decisions or quarterback decisions. I mean,
think about this, Aaron Rodgers, MVP MVP MVP leaves. They
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bring in another kid from Utah State, and they had
more touchdown passes, more yards, more yards for play, more touchdowns, scored,
everything across the board, replacing Aaron Rodgers. I'm done second guessing. However,
the hold in works. Whatever the Packers do, I'm good
with it.
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going to go to Pittsburgh Steelers camp. By the way,
Justin Fields is getting quarterback one reps. Russell Wilson's being
held out. He's got like a sore calf or sore hamstring.
(20:23):
I think that's fascinating. I think because I think Russell
Wilson and Mike Tomlin are both kind of in the
same boat. Like they both got rings.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
They've both been to multiple Super Bowls, but Tomlin has
not won a playoff game in what seven years? And
Russell hasn't won consecutive playoff games in ten and so
they both have, you know, reputations. You know that there
there was a time Russell Wilson had a Hall of
Fame shot about four years ago. You thought he had
(20:54):
a shot. Mike Tomlin may or may not get in.
Pretty tough, but Mike Shanahan's not in the Hall of Fame.
It's tougher for coaches. But I will tell you that
I think it's kind of fascinating because we talked about
this yesterday, and this is why I want to go
to Steeler camp. Justin Fields is a really popular kid.
He's a nice kid. He's popular. He's gonna be wildly impressive.
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And this Steeler team got a lot of young players.
They're gonna like him. Russell is rich, not a galvanizer
of a locker room. I mean, that's what history says
in Seattle, and Denvery's not a big galvanizer, not a
big unifier. I don't I like him when I meet him.
Orsi I think they're fine like him. But whatever it is,
(21:34):
you know, he's not going to have like twelve teammates
at his wedding like that. That's not how he rolls.
And so Justin Fields is the opposite. Even to the
last day, the top players for the Bears loved him.
So if he starts getting reps and listen, we saw
practice video for years. He is a world class athlete,
and he connects with a lot of the young teammates,
(21:55):
it's gonna be very, very interesting. So Mike Tomlin needs
Russ to perform, and Russ needs Mike Tomlin support. Because
we were talking about this this morning as a staff.
If Russell doesn't do well this year, where's he going.
He's not winning as much as Dak, right, Like, look
at the look at the quarterbacks on the market next year, potentially,
if Dak doesn't get paid, I think he will. I mean,
(22:17):
Russell's not winning, He's not as elusive. His superpower. Dak's
superpower is his maturity and his unifying quality, his authenticity.
That's Dak. It's not his arm or his legs. Dak
is the unifier. He's liked, he's respected, he's mature. That's
his superpower. Russell's superpower was moving around. He don't move
around like he used to. So I mean every every
(22:39):
every top quarterback has a superpower. Lamar it's his feet,
Josh Allen at size, Mahomes at arm and so like.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Like.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
If Russell doesn't win this year, what's his market? Now?
Tomlin doesn't win this year. Let's say they go eight
to nine, nine to eight, he could get a job
in five minutes in the NFL or at a network
that has the NFL. I don't worry about that, but
I think it's an important year. They would both love
to get a very big extension. And as good as
Mike Tomlin's been, we just saw Bill Belichick get fired,
(23:08):
Andy Reid's been fired, Pete Carroll's been fired. John Harbaugh
was on the hot seat before Lamar Jackson. We've seen
Jim Harbaugh get in trouble in San Francisco, all right.
He has never missed the tournament as long as he
has been in Gonzaga. He is now for since twenty
twenty two, Team USA assistant coach Mark Feu my buddy,
Team USA assistant coach joining us live in Paris if A,
(23:32):
Serbia on Sunday. Look at you. You have lived quite
a life, my friend, and now you've got this team.
My kids are over there by the way. They're loving it,
unlike you. They're not working. They're just sponging off dad.
But you are over there right now. Here's a question.
So when you look at the FEEBA rules, three point
(23:53):
lines closer, you can camp in the key, you can
goal ten, which I think the NBA should adopt. How
do you coach different? Is it hard to take NBA
guys and say, guys, we got all sorts of different rules.
Speaker 9 (24:09):
Well, first of all, it's great to see you, my friend.
H Yeah, it FOBA is a lot different as it says. Actually,
we have our whole film room kind of with different
phrases and words, kind of get the guys dialed in.
But yeah, it is, you know, to be honest with you,
it's a it's much more like.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
The college game. Uh.
Speaker 9 (24:31):
There's there's probably twenty five percent less possessions on average.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
It's a much more physical game. As you alluded to.
Speaker 9 (24:40):
You know, you can camp in the key like you
can in college. On defense, you know, the help side
just stays in there. Uh, And then you know it's different.
It's different. I mean in the NBA is a lot
of isolation. Isolations. Get the switch play against that FOBA.
There's a lot of cutting moving, you know, secution style offenses,
(25:03):
and uh so it's it's a big adjustment for this group,
and that's what we've been kind of, you know, working through.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
All your guys are rich, they're stars. Shoe deals. You've
told me before though, You're like you, yeah, sure, my
shoe deals. But I always am kind of impressed how
good the chemistry is with Olympic teams. Take me there.
Why these stars all sort of say, hey, man, I'm
(25:34):
in on this. Are you ever surprised by? How is
it easy?
Speaker 4 (25:39):
I mean, it's been great to just be a part
of it.
Speaker 9 (25:42):
I mean they genuinely, really truly like each other and
enjoyed being around each other.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
It's not fake.
Speaker 9 (25:49):
I think there's just such a respect for each other's games.
And for a guys that's against the Gonzaga guy right there,
that's Lebron going right at Philip patrusive. Come on now,
who picked that highlight out? It's real though, and I
think it's based, you know, out of respect and then
(26:11):
a lot like you know, these guys have played against
each other, whether it's an AAU or you know, obviously
in the NBA seasons and and and playoffs and it's
just I think they just love being on the same
team with each other. Now, the flip side of that,
Colin is they're such good guys and and trying to
be so unselfish. I mean, we've had to kind of
(26:33):
remind a lot of them to just you know, they
play their game and play to your strengths and you know,
take that your instinct is to take that shot, so
you know, take it when it when that opportunity comes,
and not you know, make a nice pass, just trying
to be a good guy.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
By the way, you told me years ago you were
so impressed with Kevin Durant, the person and the player.
He's battling an injury. How do you and Steve Kirk
kind of you know, you don't want to put him
out there if he's hurt, But I actually think one
of the things you miss is a big that can
shoot from the outside. Where are we with Kevin right now?
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Well, thank you for helping coach our team. We always
appreciate that.
Speaker 9 (27:11):
Uh Hey, he's had a couple of great workouts he
practiced with us. He's just been awesome through this whole
process of just hanging in there and hanging in there
and and you know, hopefully this week we'll be able
to get him out there and and and see him
in live action. We had a great scrimmage yesterday. It
(27:33):
was it was lively, it was competitive, and and and
Katie uh participated with us and and uh and and
then it's just kind of about evaluating, you know, what
he's capable of handling, as well as you know, fitting
him in with a team that's been kind of kind of.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Uh, you know, rocking and rolling here. We've been at
it for almost almost a month.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Anthony Davis used to drive me nuts the last two years.
I think he's the most underrated player in the game.
I think he got his body right. I don't know
if you've ever coached him before. I think he's been
unbelievable in your five and zero exhibition, just absolutely what
do you make of him? He is just on fire
the last two.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Years, Colin. This is why I like you so much.
Speaker 9 (28:17):
Just out of nowhere you come with just these brilliant
nuggets of information. He has been phenomenal and I have
not had the pleasure of being around him prior to
this experience. He is just I can't be I don't
think i've ever been as impressed with anybody just on
(28:38):
the floor, off the floor, what he's doing for us defensively,
what he's capable of doing defensively, switching, dropping, protecting the rim,
and offensively, he's done a great job of getting us
extra possessions, crashing the glass. I mean, it's just been phenomenal.
(29:00):
And we've been able to kind of bring him and
Bam off the bench, which is really kind of.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
You know, energized us, and it's great to have those two.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
It kind of switches how we play and changes, you know,
our coverages, and and it unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
This is my description of him thus far.
Speaker 9 (29:19):
And hopefully he can keep it rolling because he's been
a huge key for us.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
One minute left. Are you surprised Lebron is still this dominant?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
That's the other thing I mean, and I want to
talk about.
Speaker 9 (29:34):
I want to talk Lebron and Steph just how impressive
I am with just their approach to the game. And
I mean, what they've done for basketball and the example
they've set for I mean, I think the players that
are playing in all these games, whether they're from America
or from other countries, Gosh, their preparation, their approach, Lebron
(29:55):
gets in the gym and is ready to roll and
doesn't do anything less than full speed in any drill
or any practice. And the and the best thing he
does that I'm just so impressed with is he communicates.
He's an incredible communicator on offense and defense and in
every drill.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
And then Steph is just amazing also with just.
Speaker 9 (30:16):
How hard he goes, how meticulous he is with his
his work, he stays after practice and I it's just
an absolute joy to watch his post workout shooting practice.
It's it's game speed, at game spots, at shooting game shots.
I mean, it's you need to tape it for every
(30:37):
you know, young basketball player out there, and just phenomenal
human beings.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Two of my favorite people Steve Steve Kurr and Mark
Few congrats you look fantastic. Why don't you'll have a
glass of pino tonight?
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Ky Lou and Eric Spolster. I don't forget those two.
Those those guys have been phenomenal.
Speaker 9 (30:54):
It's it's just a joy to be able to hang
with those guys. And granted ill Uh at night in
and night out, unbelievable good senior.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Mark as Al was great seeing you
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