September 9, 2024 • 33 mins
Colin gives credit to the Rams for the way they fought in their overtime loss to the Lions despite all the injuries they were dealing with. He tells you why he was right about Jim Harbaugh and wrong about the Saints. Hall of Famer Michael Irvin joins the show in studio to talk about Dak Prescott's new contract and the Cowboys dominant win over the Browns
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
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One hour from now. Where Colin was right a lot
of that, and where Colin was wrong a little bit
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of that as well. Matt Hasselbeck, Michael Urban stopped by
the show today. Well, I think the Atlanta Falcons are
out of my herd hierarchy top ten. I got to
tell you all of us know, you can't overreact. There
are some things you look at and you go, wow,
that's troubling, And then there's a lot of stuff you
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look at. These rookie quarterbacks all struggled. You just you
got to understand that they all struggled. But last night,
maybe I feel strongly about this J Mack. It may
be a preview of the NFC Championship. I gotta tell
you I have two big takes last night. Number one,
Detroit got out played and out coached. And one, that's okay,
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that's not Detroit we grew up with. They are not
a one off from last year. They're tough, they're resilient,
they're deep. Their offensive lines the best in football, and
that's a pretty good sign. The Rams dominate the second
half with McVeigh and Stafford and the Lions one in
overtime where the Rams looked exhausted and just ran out
of players. Now the Lions got a little bit cute
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for me. This is a power run team. And you know,
I like Jared Goff more than everybody else. I think
on the planet, less golf, more running, two really good backs,
one's a star, offensive lines the best in football. I
would just run NonStop if I was Detroit and Dan Campbell.
So my first take is Detroit would have not only
lost this game in previous decades. In years, they may
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have gotten blown out. And they won, and they were
outplayed for big chunks of it in the second half,
all the second half except overtime, and I think they
were out coach. Here's my second take. That's the best
loss I've seen in years for any team. The Rams
were missing both their offensive tackles, their best corner three
offensive linemen, no Poka Nakua, down fourteen at half Sunday
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Night football in Detroit, and Matt Stafford put on a clinic.
If you that's the best quarterback in the NFC. That's
a top five quarterback in the NFL. I don't care
what list you're doing. He and Cooper Cup without Pooka Nakua,
not a lot of time to throw backups on the
offensive line. They went into the teeth of that defense
and just first down, first down, first down, first down,
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dominated total plays, dominated third down, dominated time of possession.
And they were down several of their top players. And
it got to overtime and they ran out of bodies,
and they ran out of gas, and Detroit, maybe because
they were so fatigued, said guys, let's not get cute.
Let's just run the football over and over and over,
and the Lions this is what they should be doing.
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Nine out of ten plays and you know I'm a
golf fan. This team is built to control the clock.
What happened in the second half of Detroit should not happen.
Run the ball, eat the clock, force teams to get physical,
because I don't think many can. So I would not
be shocked. This was a great loss by the Rams.
They'll never be this unhealthy. I would not be shocked
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if this isn't the NFC Championship. That's how strongly I
feel about it. In fact, I think the Lions got
too cute and the Rams ran out of people. But
it's Week one. Don't overreact. And here was Dan Campbell,
the winning coach.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
After I knew it was going to be a hard
fought game. I did know that because I think this
coach doesn't a hell of a job, you know I do.
I think Sean always puts together a good game plan.
And then the Stafford man, you know, he it's almost
like you don't want to hit him because I think
when you hit him he plays better.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, Matt Stafford, whatever you think of all the great
quarterbacks in this league, and we can put we can
put Mahomes on a level above everybody else. Then it
gets into the Herberts and Lamars and whoever you want
up there, half of you want Dak. Nobody throws a
prettier football, including Mahomes, than Matt Stafford. And for all
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you young quarterbacks, this is what it looks like, all you
young quarterbacks. You're missing your tackles, you're best or second
best receivers out, you're on the road, you're down fourteen.
Do you understand that you could put some of the
most talented players in the world in that spot as
a quarterback and they would be in gulf by it.
They'd be overwhelmed by on the road, one of the
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louder stadiums, pass rush everywhere, missing your tackles, three missing
offensive linemen, your top corners are out. And Matt Stafford
put that franchise on his shoulders last night against a
great football team and nearly pulled it out. There are
not five quarterbacks on the planet that can do what
Matt Stafford did last night. That was a clinic. They
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just ran out of bodies. Good game, good teams, all right.
So Dak Prescott, you know Jerry Jones loves this. Right
before the game, Jerry Jones announces Dak has a new deal.
So it's two hundred and thirty million, sixty million annual average,
you know, four years, two hundred forty million. So two
things happened yesterday with the Cowboys that are very predictable.
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They paid a lot of money for a player they drafted.
They love to do that. And the Cowboys looked absolutely
brilliant in Week one of the regular season. Do you
know what they did last year? In Week one of
the regular season.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
They won.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
They won by forty points. This is what the Cowboys do. Now,
Cleveland's a mess. The Deshaun Watson contract. I don't know
what happened. He's not the same player. I can't explain it.
Thirteen starts for Cleveland, he's got a seventy eight passer
rating and completing fifty nine percent of his throws. He's
not as athletic, he doesn't see the field, he's not
that accurate. I never loved him as a quarterback. He's
bad now, so I don't know what to say about it.
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He changed jerseys. I don't know. It's not working now.
He was missing some offensive lineman. Dallas has a good
pass rush. I'm trying to contextualize all of it. But
that contract, now, you thought that Russell Wilson Denver deal
was a bad one, but they hit on bow Nicks,
so that means they'll be able to make up on
that big salary for Russell Wilson very quickly in one year.
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Cleveland's trapped three years of that, and when you're missing
offensive lineman, you don't want to face the Cowboys because
they got a pass rush. But it was so Dallas,
sunny Weather, Dak's got a new contract, The pass rush
is humman. It just felt like Dallas. And the reason
I've always stayed very consistent with my Cowboy predictions is
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because the Cowboys stay consistent, they overpay, They win a
lot in the regular season, and inevitably they don't do
very well in January. In fact, what I was really
blown away with was the play calling by Mike McCarthy.
It was such a classic Cowboy quarter. They were getting
a great pass rush, McCarthy and Dak were in rhythm,
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beautiful sequencing by the Cowboys, and then they almost butcher
it at the end of the half with a clock.
Guy hit a sixty six yard field goal, but they
met a situationally, they messed up their clock the timeout.
It just was so Dallas, big pass rush, play calling
in Dak humming, and they can't quite get situational football right.
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But I'm not going to get too worked up over
this because I've seen this movie so many times. I
still think it's a very, very weak running back room.
I still think they're incredibly dependent on CD Lamb. But
to Mike McCarthy's credit, they use CED Lamb. It didn't
matter if it was jet sweeps, bubble screens down the field.
To Mike McCarthy's credit, and he's a good coach. I
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don't think he's a great one, he's a good one.
They went to ceedee Lamb. I don't know if you
can sustain that for seventeen weeks. I think the teams
with better corners and a better consistent pass rush could
give him trouble. But the last three years, the Dallas Cowboys,
I kid you not look it up, have won more
regular season games than the San Francisco forty nine ers. Okay,
so I've seen this before, but let's be honest. Here's
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the good news. If Dak is your quarterback, you're never
in chaos. If Dak is your quarterback, you're o is
viable until about January fifteenth. If Dak is your quarterback,
Jerry Jones is happy and here is Jerry on the
new deal for Dak.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
I'm happy that it's done. This was a time when
it was right there for us to do. We were
all set to go. And that's so critical. I'm saying
so many things that were worthy of doing that work
done because you missed the time here to make it happen.
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And opening day up here against Cleveland, this was a
great time to make it app.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
So there is so many things happen in Week one
and you can't overreact to it. I mean, that's one
of the things you just can't do. You can't overreact
to this stuff. But I will say the Jim Harball
win for the Chargers, and I know that was a
corner TV game for a lot of you. That was impressive.
That was an ugly football game. And I want to
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give Jim Harbaugh some credit. On the other side. Did
you have Michael Irvin Matt hasselback today, j Mack, what
was your big interpretation of week Well, obviously, Cincinnati without
their receivers is a water pistol offense. I thought New
England's defense, the physicality of the Patriots was impressive. I
mean they were blowing plays up left and right.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
Big picture, I'd go back to Friday Night and the
Jordan Love injury. Colin, I know you love the Packers.
You thought super Bowl. I think Pete Schrager said they're
going to the super Bowl. Maybe if he's out a
month and it's Malik Willis. Has been reported like there's
conflicting reports on if they're going to go after Ryan Tannehill.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
But if it's Malik Willis.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Packers are done.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
The season's over. If he's out for a month, there's
just no chance. Yeah, not in that division, in a
pretty stacked NFC.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, it's I didn't love the Friday game because it
took four great teams were taken off the Sunday schedule
by Thursday and Friday.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
That game was awesome.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah, I was, Yeah, it was. I was watching a
lot of bad quarterback play yesterday and I think we
all should take a deep breath. Young quarterbacks are going
to struggle. What would concern me if you're Tennessee or
you're the New York Giants when you don't have a
rookie quarterback and your guy looks like he can't play
or Carolina could be frightening, like do we have to
redraft the quarterback position? But there were some really good
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teams that lost. I think the Rams are excellent. I
think the Indianapolis Colts are a really interesting football team.
That was one of your bets, and a lot of
wise guys lost on that. The wise guys lost on
Tennessee and the Colts.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Well, Colts cover depending on the number you got. The
Panthers was a was a tough state mentioned Joe Burrow
somehow did escape criticism here in the first ten minutes
of the show. I'm borderline shocked given how bad the
Bengals look.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Again, I want to contextualize it. Oh, Jamar Chase T Higgins,
it's you, just Jamarches. Jamar didn't it was a corner TV,
did he?
Speaker 7 (11:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (11:26):
The kid Gonzales he in the second half to Marches
couldn't do anything at Burrow looked not Tier one.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Well again, but remember Bengals are bad week one. Jamar
wasn't at practice. You're talking about going up your your
I mean even Jamar Chase mentioned if I played its limitations,
how many snaps to Higgins out Boyd's gone the three,
Joe Mixon's gone, so you basically took all of the
weapons and you give him Jamar Chase, who's playing limited
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snaps limited service. I mean, I just don't I didn't
even care. Like that was one of those games I
didn't care about. Like the other game, I didn't watch it.
I mean, it's corner game, it's in the corner. TV
was Atlanta Pittsburgh. I know I'm supposed to watch it,
but I was like, I'm not gonna buy Pittsburgh if
they win like they did, so like some games mattered
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to me. I really wanted to watch Seattle, Denver and
bow Knicks. I really wanted to see him play. Everybody
was banging on him, but I actually thought he was
okay for a rookie on the road against a great
defensive coach and great corners. Okay, I mean he had
a bad pick, but I'm not that. The Cincinnati thing
I don't care about.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
But you don't care that they opened at home, No,
that they the start of the game three and out,
three and out, three and out with a Tier one quarterback.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
If you took my four best producers off the show,
one came back sparingly for a couple of snaps. We're
not going to be great. That's just the reality of
what having running back, star, receiver, number two, receiver, number
three receivers.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
They got Chiefs this week.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
When they start ze two, then what they're gonna go.
They're gonna be very interesting this.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
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Speaker 1 (13:07):
All right, Colin right, Colin wrong? On a Monday, here
we go where Colin was right. We said it's not
going to take long for Harball. Ten to eleven wins
seems reasonable, no turnovers, more rushing yards than passing yards.
Justin Herbert had just twenty six attempts. It was exactly
what we thought it would be. Ugly, tough, physical, a
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street fight with the Raiders. I mean, it's like they
had one hundred and fifty five yards rushing in the
second half. It was it looked like Michigan. This is
exactly what we said. They're not a super Bowl team.
They got to get better on the perimeter offensively, but
this is what they'll look like and how they'll win,
and they did it in Week one where Colin was
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raw the Bears offense, I mean, I knew it would
be turbulent. What was that sixty four passing yards? I
mean he again, I worry about the erratic accuracy by
Caleb Williams. His passer rating was fifty five. It's another
game under fifty cent completions. He missed one down the
sideline there and again. My expectations are so low for
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young quarterbacks. But that was a little concerning. I didn't
think it would.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
Be that bad where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Well, the Bills are going to be fine without Stefan Diggs.
Now do they have the weaponry to go toe to
toe with Kansas City later or Houston. I don't know
if they do, but it should be noted Josh Allen
is going to lead a football team. Not one single
wide receiver is going to lead a football team. His
passer rating was one thirty eight. Nine different Buffalo Bills
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had a catch. So too much is made of the
dominant number one receiver. The best quarterbacks in this league.
I think Dak got better when des Bryant left. He
didn't feel beholden. Now you got to have some weapon
Cincinnati was weapon light yesterday. But Buffalo's gonna win games
as long as Josh Allen is upright and in his prime.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
Where Colin was raw.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I had the Saints finishing last in their division, and
I think Derek Carr has found the perfect coordinator. I've
never seen Derek Carr play that well. They scored on
their first nine drives. That's officially. Has that ever happened?
Did Alabama score on their first nine drives against Troy State?
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What is that? So? I thought this team was a
fourth place team. I thought Dennis Allen was on the
hot seat and they were flawless.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Where Colin was right?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Sam Darnold, I just said, I don't know how good
Sam is, but he's a lot better than his.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
Career so far.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
He's got a really good coach and a good left
tackle in a run game, and a star receiver. He
started twelve for twelve. His passer rating was one thirteen.
It's like Baker mayfielder Gino Smith. You gotta give the
guys a shot. You gotta give him a functional organization.
Gino and Baker yesterday had days. Sam Arnold did too.
I've been told by coaches through the years. He's got
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the physical traits, he's got leadership skills. He's a tough guy,
played linebacker in high school. He just needed a coach
that got him, and you saw what he can do.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
Where Colin was right, I.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Don't get will Levis. I think he's too mechanical. I
don't think he's fluid. Since his NFL debut, he had
a great debut since then, five touchdowns, six picks and
nine starts. I don't see it. I don't think he
sees the field. I think he struggles with progressions. I
don't think he has a sense of the pocket. He
got whacked a couple of times. He doesn't hear the footsteps.
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I don't know how some quarterback play is innate. Do
you have a feel for it. I think he's a big,
strong kid with a big arm. I don't think he's
got a feel for it. I didn't see it last year.
I just don't get it.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Where Colin was wraw.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I thought Oregon was a national championship contender. Their all
line through two games is a disaster. They missed bow Nicks.
They're not close to Ohio State, Georgia, Texas. I mean
they'd get blown out of the building tomorrow by USC.
I'm not joking. Like their offensive line is a problem.
They no question, they miss bo Nicks. They're just not fluid.
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They got good receivers. Their defense they allowed two hundred
yards rushing to Boise State. They're bad right now, where
Colin was right, I've said Colorado is the classic timeshare
sales pitch. Everybody pop Champagnes when you land the recruit,
when you buy it two years later, you want an
attorney and try to get out of it. Colorado's a mess.
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One in seven in their last eight games. They don't
look well coached. Shador Sanders has a lot of talent.
He's a really talented kid. But what is this whole
thing walking off the field early? I don't like the
feel for this program at all. Right now here was
shador are taking a shot at his offensive line after
the loss.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
Whenever you're able to run the ball consistently, and whenever
you're able to then that opens up to pass, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
But it's just like you got to.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
Understand, like what's your team good at? So it was like,
why would we keep running the ball if okay, we
are we out there we get in a situation where
some must get and we'll get it.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, I don't think he's helping himself in the NFL draft,
and I'm out on Colorado. It's a lot of sizzle.
I don't see the stake. I don't see the details.
I thought Dion got out coached and Colorado got out played.
Speaker 7 (18:27):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
The new kickoff yesterday was actually entertaining. Listen. It looks
weird and maybe it's not perfect, but I'll be honest
about it. I think you're gonna get double the kickoff
touchdown returns, and that's all I care about. Again, a
lot of times the NFL, it took him ten years
to figure out the catch rule. I'm not gonna be
too punitive. If you give me kickoff touchdowns, then it's
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a win. Maybe it's just I mean, I'll give you this.
It looks weird, but is it Is it weird or
does it look weird because I'm used to the other way.
But we've already got Last year, I think we only
had four kickoff returns for touchdowns. We've already got one.
And that's my prediction that there's one line you have
to get through if you can get through that first line.
It's off to the races, so just take any breath.
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It's wonky looking. I think it's going to be okay,
Colin right, Colin wrong.
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The playmaker Keelervin twelve years pro football Hall of Famer
in three rings. He is joining us now in studio
live in Los Angeles, so listen. Jerry loves to squeeze
the marketing out of every moment, so he gives Dak
that big contract before the game. And how for anybody
that says this, what about the critics that go, we
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like that, everybody likes him. Sixty million per that's a
lot for Dak Prescott. What would you say?
Speaker 10 (20:27):
Well, first of all, I will say to some of
those critics that are saying that right now, you just
said a lot of those same critics said that Jerry
didn't believe in Dak, and Jerry really did not want Dak.
I mean that was the father that was thrown around
at all of these shows. And then when Jerry gives
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that that, when that gets his money that he has earned,
I don't like saying giving him his money he's earned it.
Then we turn it and say, well, is that really
worth that much? I mean, yes, he's worth that much.
It's somebody paying its paying him that much. And if
Jerry would not have paid him that much, somebody else
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would pay him that much. So it's a it's a
rhetorical question to even ask is he worth that much?
I think it's great that that they got it done.
And I said to you guys, I said to everybody
stop coming up and coming up with all of this stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
They'll get the deal done. When that slipper falls.
Speaker 10 (21:30):
Off Cinderella, and and and that slipper fell off, and
and that carriage turned to a pumpkin, and they ran down.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
The aisl and got married again. Fair enough.
Speaker 10 (21:40):
That's how That's what happens whenever you're talking about this
kind of money, that's what happens, is the last one.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
But we also know Dak can handle it. He's like
a grown up.
Speaker 10 (21:49):
And that's the that right there is what I was
worried about. And I jump one air and I jump
out here. Sometimes Colin get you hit the nail on
the head, buddy, And I always say, I tried to
tell people stop stop, Let's come on.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
This is business.
Speaker 10 (22:03):
This happens every year in the National Football League, but
it's a tsunami when it's the Dallas Cowboys, right because
we all use it, we all talk about it.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
And I worry about the mental strength of the players.
Speaker 10 (22:18):
You can't talk money all off season and then think
you're gonna walk into Week one and whoop somebody in
the National Football League and they've been talking ball all
off season and winning all off season. It doesn't work
that way. And I'm happy that Dak didn't fold. And
the Cowboys didn't fall. He didn't he had all you
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heard was money talk. He didn't have work with his
number one receiver, And those two showed up and looked
like they didn't miss much of a beat, you know,
for week one.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
So that's what I was happy about, right the why
you know, that's.
Speaker 10 (22:52):
Why I love call him man smart man, and he
knows both sides of the argument.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I told Colin a couple of years.
Speaker 10 (22:58):
Ago, he's the only man in the world that can
argue with himself.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
He's the man in the world.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
My wife's not nearly as impressed with that skill as
you are, believe me. So you know, it's funny. You
look at the Lions last night. I thought they got
out played, but they want what they want, and I think,
you know what, my whole life at Detroit got out played.
They lost, right, So I looked at them and I thought,
I kind of thought they got out coached and outplayed.
But I feel pretty good this morning about Detroit.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
And and and you.
Speaker 10 (23:28):
And if you're a coach, you say, you know what,
It's not like I really wanted it, but that might
be the best way for me because now they solidify
what they've been saying to themselves, we're not the same
Detroit Lions. That's right, We're not the same Detroit Lions.
I don't care what anybody says. You gotta speak. That's
why we were talking about We were talking about it
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earlier before we came on their colin.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
The importance of week one.
Speaker 10 (23:54):
Is so so important because you're going to either validate
what you've been saying to yourself all the time, or
you're going to leave there questioning what you've been saying
to yourself.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
It can become an avalanche.
Speaker 10 (24:09):
It could become an avalanche for Philadelphia to get win
that game the way they won their game in Green Bay,
to have some struggles and to fight through it and
stay together and then come down.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
And win that game in the end, that's what.
Speaker 10 (24:23):
They needed coming off the collapse they had at the
end of last year. We need to know now, if
we have some struggles, we can stay together and win
that game, because that was.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
The problem last year folded so right.
Speaker 10 (24:35):
So that was the great It's some struggles in there
and a lot of things that improve on, but that
was a great first win.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
That's how I look at it.
Speaker 10 (24:42):
When I look at Week one, I look at it
attached to last season? Is it going to confirm or
deny what you've been telling yourself all off season?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
The playmaker Michael Irvin. So I try to look at
all these young quarterbacks and say, listen, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold,
Derek Carlok. Great, they've taken a bunch of snaps a
lot of time on. They're old guys, right, And I
look at these young quarterbacks and I'm like, yeah, that's
pretty ugly. Here's what I worry about with Caleb. And
I saw this in college in the preseason. He's a
remarkable I don't worry about the ego, the leadership, all good, strong,
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solid kid. But Michael, he can be a radic on
accuracy under fifty percent this game fifty percent preseason, three
times last year at you see USC under fifty eight percent.
Sometimes when a guy is so athletic, it takes him
a while to become the pocket guy. Now Aikman was
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a pocket guy. It was different. Do you worry at all?
He's got a defensive coach in Chicago. He didn't have
Sean Payton like Bonnicks, Right, he didn't have Sam Darnold,
Kevin O'Connell. He got a defensive young coach. Do you
worry that Caleb's accuracy stuff won't get fixed with a
defensive coach.
Speaker 10 (25:53):
You know my though here and this is where I
was with this, and I love the way you placed it,
because what you saw yesterday was a young man saying.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Whoa, games fast?
Speaker 7 (26:07):
WHOA.
Speaker 10 (26:08):
I didn't know what it was going to be like
this because that one play he made a spin. He
spent away from one guy. Right, Oh, but that's the
play right he spends again right here the year. You
know what I mean, I swear I don't know how
you got puilt up that play. That's exactly what I
was talking about. But in u USC, when he does
the first spin, he got another year to throw that ball.
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He was like, man, the rest of them dude so slow.
They only got one guy that's really going to the league.
And most of those teams you played, and that's the
defensive end. You just spent away from him. Now you
got all time. And then when you look up, ain't
nobody attached to all of your receivers from USC, they're
all running wide over.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
You could play one eye one.
Speaker 10 (26:48):
Kind of way, But in the NFL you had three
or four jokers on you. When you spent they were
still shooting at you. WHOA wait a minute, where it's
coming from? And then back then everybody has somebody attached
to them, so you had to now adjust to and
it blows your mind.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
I thought about it this way.
Speaker 10 (27:11):
We played and we said, this man reminds us of
Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
I went this way.
Speaker 10 (27:17):
I said, I wonder if that's what Patrick Mahomes would
have looked like if he had to step on the
field for his first game. You see, Patrick Mahomes didn't
have to work out. And Andy reed. So now even
the first year, I'm not practicing, I'm not playing that way.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Imagine the knowledge I'm getting.
Speaker 10 (27:37):
In practice because it's it's Andy Reid as opposed to
what Caleb Williams have God that you were just talking about.
You see what I mean, those are the things that
we miss. And it comes down to Caylen Williams.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
I know you got.
Speaker 10 (27:55):
Physical capabilities, it's what's inside of you. Well term if
you can survive this, because you're you're going to be
looking in the mirror and questioning and wondering, boy, can
I really play? Am I really as good? As I
thought I was, because that's what this league does. You're
gonna win by yourself at little league football, You're gona
win by yourself in high school football. You can even
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probably win by yourself in college.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
You need a whole damn team on this level. That's
just the reality.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
So I will Aaron Rodgers playing tonight. And I remember
when Tom Brady had the one serious injury. The next
year he came back. Tommy didn't want you near his knees.
He would darket officials if guy's got near it. Aaron's
played four snaps in five hundred days. Psychologically, now, you
didn't have many injuries, But psychologically, how is that not
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in his head? Tonight?
Speaker 10 (28:47):
Well, I had n acl and and and I'm telling
you that almost broke me just being away from the
game and coming back to that game.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
I'll never forget. I returned.
Speaker 10 (28:58):
I missed the first four games the next season. I
returned against Tampa Bay.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (29:04):
It was our first time really playing together, all three
of us, Troy im and and me and and and
I caught the game winning touchdown. And they had a
picture in the paper right let me catching the game
winning touchdown. I swear to you guys, that's the only
pass I didn't watch all the way in. I don't
know how I caught it. I closed my eyes. I
was so scared.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
I don't know what.
Speaker 10 (29:25):
Even in the paper the next day, Dog they got
the catch touched own. I'll close last boy, why did
they catch that pig? You know what I'm saying, Oh
my god, Oh my god. It's the hardest thing in
the world. Why do you think Daniel Jones and Kirk
Cousins look like they look yesterday? And they played the
game a lot of years, but they look like they
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haven't played the game.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
At all ever, You see what I mean?
Speaker 10 (29:48):
Because they were not just worried about all that speed
coming at them, they were worried about the capability of
their own body holding up in the midst of it,
because they don't want to go back through that kind
of a rehab. And yeah, anything you thinking about anything
on the football field, it makes you too late to
think for football, and those things just hold you back.
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So I'm anxious to see what Anon Rodgers looked back
looked like tonight too. And remember san Fran always gave
him trouble. They all always give him trouble. You know
when he was in Green base and Frand was giving
him trouble.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, so week one. You know, my takeaway is, don't
go too crazy on this. And I think it's just
the sport is so popular and we love it. I
will say this though, the Chargers last year, last couple
of years, if they don't score thirty, they don't win.
Yesterday twenty two points. They won comfortably. They ran for
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one hundred and seventy five yards. They didn't ask Justin
Herbert to do anything. I felt like they looks like Michigan,
right Harvall's got away Michael. I don't know how he
installs the toughness, but I watched them and I'm like,
that's a rock fight. That's what they do every hardball team,
college pro. It's crazy. How do they mean, how do
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you get a team to be that was the softest
team in the league to be that physical.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
And right there?
Speaker 10 (31:11):
How do you get the team that that that was
the softest team and soft meaning every time they tried
to get physical, seemed like everybody went down, everybody was hurt,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Terrible third down.
Speaker 10 (31:25):
They had all the talent, but not the mentality, you know,
what I mean, we've seen this team. And here comes
Jim Habball and he did this last time around because
the league. He sees what the league trends for. It's
all passing. It's all passing. So now you're bringing in
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fast guys that can chase the past, all kind of guys.
The linebackers getting small and faster. Everybody's getting small, so
you chase the past. And then here comes this dude,
Jim Haulball, saying, oh, let's buck the trend again. Let's
go back to just pounding, pounding, pounding, because everybody, right,
they're so light now, and let's just pound. And he
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creates some mentality through training camp.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
He creates some mentality.
Speaker 10 (32:13):
And now, now imagine you don't have to try to
compete with Patrick Mahomes and beat him throw for throw.
You don't have to try to say, Okay, Patrick Mahomes,
we tried to stop you with this defense for years
and that just didn't happen.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
That's just not happening.
Speaker 10 (32:27):
Well, well, what has like the teams like Tennessee, those
kind of teams, they've given Kansas City Chiefs some problem
because they just say, we just gonna keep you on
the sideline running football.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Right, no nothing, no nothing.
Speaker 10 (32:40):
We want as little as you as we as as
we can get, and we're gonna run this football. And
that gives Kansas City some trouble. So yeah, this gives
them a shot to come in the back door right here.
I think the charge is not I'm.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Not saying they winning.
Speaker 10 (32:55):
They're winning that division. That gives them something, that gives
them something to work with.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Playmaker. Always good to see Michael Erbum, the man.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
It's always good being with you.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
We're on ninety minutes sleep and he made it to
our studio.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Yes, that's all.
Speaker 10 (33:09):
That's all I need on a Sunday night, coming in
a Monday that the.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Dallas Cowboys won.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
He'll take up.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
He'll catch up tonight
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This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh, it is a Monday, our first NFL season Monday.
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One hour from now. Where Colin was right a lot
of that, and where Colin was wrong a little bit
(00:47):
of that as well. Matt Hasselbeck, Michael Urban stopped by
the show today. Well, I think the Atlanta Falcons are
out of my herd hierarchy top ten. I got to
tell you all of us know, you can't overreact. There
are some things you look at and you go, wow,
that's troubling, And then there's a lot of stuff you
(01:09):
look at. These rookie quarterbacks all struggled. You just you
got to understand that they all struggled. But last night,
maybe I feel strongly about this J Mack. It may
be a preview of the NFC Championship. I gotta tell
you I have two big takes last night. Number one,
Detroit got out played and out coached. And one, that's okay,
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that's not Detroit we grew up with. They are not
a one off from last year. They're tough, they're resilient,
they're deep. Their offensive lines the best in football, and
that's a pretty good sign. The Rams dominate the second
half with McVeigh and Stafford and the Lions one in
overtime where the Rams looked exhausted and just ran out
of players. Now the Lions got a little bit cute
(01:52):
for me. This is a power run team. And you know,
I like Jared Goff more than everybody else. I think
on the planet, less golf, more running, two really good backs,
one's a star, offensive lines the best in football. I
would just run NonStop if I was Detroit and Dan Campbell.
So my first take is Detroit would have not only
lost this game in previous decades. In years, they may
(02:13):
have gotten blown out. And they won, and they were
outplayed for big chunks of it in the second half,
all the second half except overtime, and I think they
were out coach. Here's my second take. That's the best
loss I've seen in years for any team. The Rams
were missing both their offensive tackles, their best corner three
offensive linemen, no Poka Nakua, down fourteen at half Sunday
(02:36):
Night football in Detroit, and Matt Stafford put on a clinic.
If you that's the best quarterback in the NFC. That's
a top five quarterback in the NFL. I don't care
what list you're doing. He and Cooper Cup without Pooka Nakua,
not a lot of time to throw backups on the
offensive line. They went into the teeth of that defense
and just first down, first down, first down, first down,
(02:59):
dominated total plays, dominated third down, dominated time of possession.
And they were down several of their top players. And
it got to overtime and they ran out of bodies,
and they ran out of gas, and Detroit, maybe because
they were so fatigued, said guys, let's not get cute.
Let's just run the football over and over and over,
and the Lions this is what they should be doing.
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Nine out of ten plays and you know I'm a
golf fan. This team is built to control the clock.
What happened in the second half of Detroit should not happen.
Run the ball, eat the clock, force teams to get physical,
because I don't think many can. So I would not
be shocked. This was a great loss by the Rams.
They'll never be this unhealthy. I would not be shocked
(03:43):
if this isn't the NFC Championship. That's how strongly I
feel about it. In fact, I think the Lions got
too cute and the Rams ran out of people. But
it's Week one. Don't overreact. And here was Dan Campbell,
the winning coach.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
After I knew it was going to be a hard
fought game. I did know that because I think this
coach doesn't a hell of a job, you know I do.
I think Sean always puts together a good game plan.
And then the Stafford man, you know, he it's almost
like you don't want to hit him because I think
when you hit him he plays better.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, Matt Stafford, whatever you think of all the great
quarterbacks in this league, and we can put we can
put Mahomes on a level above everybody else. Then it
gets into the Herberts and Lamars and whoever you want
up there, half of you want Dak. Nobody throws a
prettier football, including Mahomes, than Matt Stafford. And for all
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you young quarterbacks, this is what it looks like, all you
young quarterbacks. You're missing your tackles, you're best or second
best receivers out, you're on the road, you're down fourteen.
Do you understand that you could put some of the
most talented players in the world in that spot as
a quarterback and they would be in gulf by it.
They'd be overwhelmed by on the road, one of the
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louder stadiums, pass rush everywhere, missing your tackles, three missing
offensive linemen, your top corners are out. And Matt Stafford
put that franchise on his shoulders last night against a
great football team and nearly pulled it out. There are
not five quarterbacks on the planet that can do what
Matt Stafford did last night. That was a clinic. They
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just ran out of bodies. Good game, good teams, all right.
So Dak Prescott, you know Jerry Jones loves this. Right
before the game, Jerry Jones announces Dak has a new deal.
So it's two hundred and thirty million, sixty million annual average,
you know, four years, two hundred forty million. So two
things happened yesterday with the Cowboys that are very predictable.
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They paid a lot of money for a player they drafted.
They love to do that. And the Cowboys looked absolutely
brilliant in Week one of the regular season. Do you
know what they did last year? In Week one of
the regular season.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
They won.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
They won by forty points. This is what the Cowboys do. Now,
Cleveland's a mess. The Deshaun Watson contract. I don't know
what happened. He's not the same player. I can't explain it.
Thirteen starts for Cleveland, he's got a seventy eight passer
rating and completing fifty nine percent of his throws. He's
not as athletic, he doesn't see the field, he's not
that accurate. I never loved him as a quarterback. He's
bad now, so I don't know what to say about it.
(06:22):
He changed jerseys. I don't know. It's not working now.
He was missing some offensive lineman. Dallas has a good
pass rush. I'm trying to contextualize all of it. But
that contract, now, you thought that Russell Wilson Denver deal
was a bad one, but they hit on bow Nicks,
so that means they'll be able to make up on
that big salary for Russell Wilson very quickly in one year.
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Cleveland's trapped three years of that, and when you're missing
offensive lineman, you don't want to face the Cowboys because
they got a pass rush. But it was so Dallas,
sunny Weather, Dak's got a new contract, The pass rush
is humman. It just felt like Dallas. And the reason
I've always stayed very consistent with my Cowboy predictions is
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because the Cowboys stay consistent, they overpay, They win a
lot in the regular season, and inevitably they don't do
very well in January. In fact, what I was really
blown away with was the play calling by Mike McCarthy.
It was such a classic Cowboy quarter. They were getting
a great pass rush, McCarthy and Dak were in rhythm,
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beautiful sequencing by the Cowboys, and then they almost butcher
it at the end of the half with a clock.
Guy hit a sixty six yard field goal, but they
met a situationally, they messed up their clock the timeout.
It just was so Dallas, big pass rush, play calling
in Dak humming, and they can't quite get situational football right.
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But I'm not going to get too worked up over
this because I've seen this movie so many times. I
still think it's a very, very weak running back room.
I still think they're incredibly dependent on CD Lamb. But
to Mike McCarthy's credit, they use CED Lamb. It didn't
matter if it was jet sweeps, bubble screens down the field.
To Mike McCarthy's credit, and he's a good coach. I
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don't think he's a great one, he's a good one.
They went to ceedee Lamb. I don't know if you
can sustain that for seventeen weeks. I think the teams
with better corners and a better consistent pass rush could
give him trouble. But the last three years, the Dallas Cowboys,
I kid you not look it up, have won more
regular season games than the San Francisco forty nine ers. Okay,
so I've seen this before, but let's be honest. Here's
(08:33):
the good news. If Dak is your quarterback, you're never
in chaos. If Dak is your quarterback, you're o is
viable until about January fifteenth. If Dak is your quarterback,
Jerry Jones is happy and here is Jerry on the
new deal for Dak.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
I'm happy that it's done. This was a time when
it was right there for us to do. We were
all set to go. And that's so critical. I'm saying
so many things that were worthy of doing that work
done because you missed the time here to make it happen.
(09:10):
And opening day up here against Cleveland, this was a
great time to make it app.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
So there is so many things happen in Week one
and you can't overreact to it. I mean, that's one
of the things you just can't do. You can't overreact
to this stuff. But I will say the Jim Harball
win for the Chargers, and I know that was a
corner TV game for a lot of you. That was impressive.
That was an ugly football game. And I want to
(09:36):
give Jim Harbaugh some credit. On the other side. Did
you have Michael Irvin Matt hasselback today, j Mack, what
was your big interpretation of week Well, obviously, Cincinnati without
their receivers is a water pistol offense. I thought New
England's defense, the physicality of the Patriots was impressive. I
mean they were blowing plays up left and right.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
Big picture, I'd go back to Friday Night and the
Jordan Love injury. Colin, I know you love the Packers.
You thought super Bowl. I think Pete Schrager said they're
going to the super Bowl. Maybe if he's out a
month and it's Malik Willis. Has been reported like there's
conflicting reports on if they're going to go after Ryan Tannehill.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
But if it's Malik Willis.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Packers are done.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
The season's over. If he's out for a month, there's
just no chance. Yeah, not in that division, in a
pretty stacked NFC.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, it's I didn't love the Friday game because it
took four great teams were taken off the Sunday schedule
by Thursday and Friday.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
That game was awesome.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah, I was, Yeah, it was. I was watching a
lot of bad quarterback play yesterday and I think we
all should take a deep breath. Young quarterbacks are going
to struggle. What would concern me if you're Tennessee or
you're the New York Giants when you don't have a
rookie quarterback and your guy looks like he can't play
or Carolina could be frightening, like do we have to
redraft the quarterback position? But there were some really good
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teams that lost. I think the Rams are excellent. I
think the Indianapolis Colts are a really interesting football team.
That was one of your bets, and a lot of
wise guys lost on that. The wise guys lost on
Tennessee and the Colts.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Well, Colts cover depending on the number you got. The
Panthers was a was a tough state mentioned Joe Burrow
somehow did escape criticism here in the first ten minutes
of the show. I'm borderline shocked given how bad the
Bengals look.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Again, I want to contextualize it. Oh, Jamar Chase T Higgins,
it's you, just Jamarches. Jamar didn't it was a corner TV,
did he?
Speaker 7 (11:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (11:26):
The kid Gonzales he in the second half to Marches
couldn't do anything at Burrow looked not Tier one.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Well again, but remember Bengals are bad week one. Jamar
wasn't at practice. You're talking about going up your your
I mean even Jamar Chase mentioned if I played its limitations,
how many snaps to Higgins out Boyd's gone the three,
Joe Mixon's gone, so you basically took all of the
weapons and you give him Jamar Chase, who's playing limited
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snaps limited service. I mean, I just don't I didn't
even care. Like that was one of those games I
didn't care about. Like the other game, I didn't watch it.
I mean, it's corner game, it's in the corner. TV
was Atlanta Pittsburgh. I know I'm supposed to watch it,
but I was like, I'm not gonna buy Pittsburgh if
they win like they did, so like some games mattered
(12:15):
to me. I really wanted to watch Seattle, Denver and
bow Knicks. I really wanted to see him play. Everybody
was banging on him, but I actually thought he was
okay for a rookie on the road against a great
defensive coach and great corners. Okay, I mean he had
a bad pick, but I'm not that. The Cincinnati thing
I don't care about.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
But you don't care that they opened at home, No,
that they the start of the game three and out,
three and out, three and out with a Tier one quarterback.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
If you took my four best producers off the show,
one came back sparingly for a couple of snaps. We're
not going to be great. That's just the reality of
what having running back, star, receiver, number two, receiver, number
three receivers.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
They got Chiefs this week.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
When they start ze two, then what they're gonna go.
They're gonna be very interesting this.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
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Speaker 1 (13:07):
All right, Colin right, Colin wrong? On a Monday, here
we go where Colin was right. We said it's not
going to take long for Harball. Ten to eleven wins
seems reasonable, no turnovers, more rushing yards than passing yards.
Justin Herbert had just twenty six attempts. It was exactly
what we thought it would be. Ugly, tough, physical, a
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street fight with the Raiders. I mean, it's like they
had one hundred and fifty five yards rushing in the
second half. It was it looked like Michigan. This is
exactly what we said. They're not a super Bowl team.
They got to get better on the perimeter offensively, but
this is what they'll look like and how they'll win,
and they did it in Week one where Colin was
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raw the Bears offense, I mean, I knew it would
be turbulent. What was that sixty four passing yards? I
mean he again, I worry about the erratic accuracy by
Caleb Williams. His passer rating was fifty five. It's another
game under fifty cent completions. He missed one down the
sideline there and again. My expectations are so low for
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young quarterbacks. But that was a little concerning. I didn't
think it would.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
Be that bad where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Well, the Bills are going to be fine without Stefan Diggs.
Now do they have the weaponry to go toe to
toe with Kansas City later or Houston. I don't know
if they do, but it should be noted Josh Allen
is going to lead a football team. Not one single
wide receiver is going to lead a football team. His
passer rating was one thirty eight. Nine different Buffalo Bills
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had a catch. So too much is made of the
dominant number one receiver. The best quarterbacks in this league.
I think Dak got better when des Bryant left. He
didn't feel beholden. Now you got to have some weapon
Cincinnati was weapon light yesterday. But Buffalo's gonna win games
as long as Josh Allen is upright and in his prime.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
Where Colin was raw.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I had the Saints finishing last in their division, and
I think Derek Carr has found the perfect coordinator. I've
never seen Derek Carr play that well. They scored on
their first nine drives. That's officially. Has that ever happened?
Did Alabama score on their first nine drives against Troy State?
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What is that? So? I thought this team was a
fourth place team. I thought Dennis Allen was on the
hot seat and they were flawless.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Where Colin was right?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Sam Darnold, I just said, I don't know how good
Sam is, but he's a lot better than his.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
Career so far.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
He's got a really good coach and a good left
tackle in a run game, and a star receiver. He
started twelve for twelve. His passer rating was one thirteen.
It's like Baker mayfielder Gino Smith. You gotta give the
guys a shot. You gotta give him a functional organization.
Gino and Baker yesterday had days. Sam Arnold did too.
I've been told by coaches through the years. He's got
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the physical traits, he's got leadership skills. He's a tough guy,
played linebacker in high school. He just needed a coach
that got him, and you saw what he can do.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
Where Colin was right, I.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Don't get will Levis. I think he's too mechanical. I
don't think he's fluid. Since his NFL debut, he had
a great debut since then, five touchdowns, six picks and
nine starts. I don't see it. I don't think he
sees the field. I think he struggles with progressions. I
don't think he has a sense of the pocket. He
got whacked a couple of times. He doesn't hear the footsteps.
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I don't know how some quarterback play is innate. Do
you have a feel for it. I think he's a big,
strong kid with a big arm. I don't think he's
got a feel for it. I didn't see it last year.
I just don't get it.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Where Colin was wraw.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I thought Oregon was a national championship contender. Their all
line through two games is a disaster. They missed bow Nicks.
They're not close to Ohio State, Georgia, Texas. I mean
they'd get blown out of the building tomorrow by USC.
I'm not joking. Like their offensive line is a problem.
They no question, they miss bo Nicks. They're just not fluid.
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They got good receivers. Their defense they allowed two hundred
yards rushing to Boise State. They're bad right now, where
Colin was right, I've said Colorado is the classic timeshare
sales pitch. Everybody pop Champagnes when you land the recruit,
when you buy it two years later, you want an
attorney and try to get out of it. Colorado's a mess.
(17:36):
One in seven in their last eight games. They don't
look well coached. Shador Sanders has a lot of talent.
He's a really talented kid. But what is this whole
thing walking off the field early? I don't like the
feel for this program at all. Right now here was
shador are taking a shot at his offensive line after
the loss.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
Whenever you're able to run the ball consistently, and whenever
you're able to then that opens up to pass, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
But it's just like you got to.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
Understand, like what's your team good at? So it was like,
why would we keep running the ball if okay, we
are we out there we get in a situation where
some must get and we'll get it.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, I don't think he's helping himself in the NFL draft,
and I'm out on Colorado. It's a lot of sizzle.
I don't see the stake. I don't see the details.
I thought Dion got out coached and Colorado got out played.
Speaker 7 (18:27):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
The new kickoff yesterday was actually entertaining. Listen. It looks
weird and maybe it's not perfect, but I'll be honest
about it. I think you're gonna get double the kickoff
touchdown returns, and that's all I care about. Again, a
lot of times the NFL, it took him ten years
to figure out the catch rule. I'm not gonna be
too punitive. If you give me kickoff touchdowns, then it's
(18:51):
a win. Maybe it's just I mean, I'll give you this.
It looks weird, but is it Is it weird or
does it look weird because I'm used to the other way.
But we've already got Last year, I think we only
had four kickoff returns for touchdowns. We've already got one.
And that's my prediction that there's one line you have
to get through if you can get through that first line.
It's off to the races, so just take any breath.
(19:13):
It's wonky looking. I think it's going to be okay,
Colin right, Colin wrong.
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Speaker 1 (19:59):
The playmaker Keelervin twelve years pro football Hall of Famer
in three rings. He is joining us now in studio
live in Los Angeles, so listen. Jerry loves to squeeze
the marketing out of every moment, so he gives Dak
that big contract before the game. And how for anybody
that says this, what about the critics that go, we
(20:19):
like that, everybody likes him. Sixty million per that's a
lot for Dak Prescott. What would you say?
Speaker 10 (20:27):
Well, first of all, I will say to some of
those critics that are saying that right now, you just
said a lot of those same critics said that Jerry
didn't believe in Dak, and Jerry really did not want Dak.
I mean that was the father that was thrown around
at all of these shows. And then when Jerry gives
(20:47):
that that, when that gets his money that he has earned,
I don't like saying giving him his money he's earned it.
Then we turn it and say, well, is that really
worth that much? I mean, yes, he's worth that much.
It's somebody paying its paying him that much. And if
Jerry would not have paid him that much, somebody else
(21:10):
would pay him that much. So it's a it's a
rhetorical question to even ask is he worth that much?
I think it's great that that they got it done.
And I said to you guys, I said to everybody
stop coming up and coming up with all of this stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
They'll get the deal done. When that slipper falls.
Speaker 10 (21:30):
Off Cinderella, and and and that slipper fell off, and
and that carriage turned to a pumpkin, and they ran down.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
The aisl and got married again. Fair enough.
Speaker 10 (21:40):
That's how That's what happens whenever you're talking about this
kind of money, that's what happens, is the last one.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
But we also know Dak can handle it. He's like
a grown up.
Speaker 10 (21:49):
And that's the that right there is what I was
worried about. And I jump one air and I jump
out here. Sometimes Colin get you hit the nail on
the head, buddy, And I always say, I tried to
tell people stop stop, Let's come on.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
This is business.
Speaker 10 (22:03):
This happens every year in the National Football League, but
it's a tsunami when it's the Dallas Cowboys, right because
we all use it, we all talk about it.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
And I worry about the mental strength of the players.
Speaker 10 (22:18):
You can't talk money all off season and then think
you're gonna walk into Week one and whoop somebody in
the National Football League and they've been talking ball all
off season and winning all off season. It doesn't work
that way. And I'm happy that Dak didn't fold. And
the Cowboys didn't fall. He didn't he had all you
(22:39):
heard was money talk. He didn't have work with his
number one receiver, And those two showed up and looked
like they didn't miss much of a beat, you know,
for week one.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
So that's what I was happy about, right the why
you know, that's.
Speaker 10 (22:52):
Why I love call him man smart man, and he
knows both sides of the argument.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I told Colin a couple of years.
Speaker 10 (22:58):
Ago, he's the only man in the world that can
argue with himself.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
He's the man in the world.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
My wife's not nearly as impressed with that skill as
you are, believe me. So you know, it's funny. You
look at the Lions last night. I thought they got
out played, but they want what they want, and I think,
you know what, my whole life at Detroit got out played.
They lost, right, So I looked at them and I thought,
I kind of thought they got out coached and outplayed.
But I feel pretty good this morning about Detroit.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
And and and you.
Speaker 10 (23:28):
And if you're a coach, you say, you know what,
It's not like I really wanted it, but that might
be the best way for me because now they solidify
what they've been saying to themselves, we're not the same
Detroit Lions. That's right, We're not the same Detroit Lions.
I don't care what anybody says. You gotta speak. That's
why we were talking about We were talking about it
(23:49):
earlier before we came on their colin.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
The importance of week one.
Speaker 10 (23:54):
Is so so important because you're going to either validate
what you've been saying to yourself all the time, or
you're going to leave there questioning what you've been saying
to yourself.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
It can become an avalanche.
Speaker 10 (24:09):
It could become an avalanche for Philadelphia to get win
that game the way they won their game in Green Bay,
to have some struggles and to fight through it and
stay together and then come down.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
And win that game in the end, that's what.
Speaker 10 (24:23):
They needed coming off the collapse they had at the
end of last year. We need to know now, if
we have some struggles, we can stay together and win
that game, because that was.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
The problem last year folded so right.
Speaker 10 (24:35):
So that was the great It's some struggles in there
and a lot of things that improve on, but that
was a great first win.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
That's how I look at it.
Speaker 10 (24:42):
When I look at Week one, I look at it
attached to last season? Is it going to confirm or
deny what you've been telling yourself all off season?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
The playmaker Michael Irvin. So I try to look at
all these young quarterbacks and say, listen, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold,
Derek Carlok. Great, they've taken a bunch of snaps a
lot of time on. They're old guys, right, And I
look at these young quarterbacks and I'm like, yeah, that's
pretty ugly. Here's what I worry about with Caleb. And
I saw this in college in the preseason. He's a
remarkable I don't worry about the ego, the leadership, all good, strong,
(25:12):
solid kid. But Michael, he can be a radic on
accuracy under fifty percent this game fifty percent preseason, three
times last year at you see USC under fifty eight percent.
Sometimes when a guy is so athletic, it takes him
a while to become the pocket guy. Now Aikman was
(25:33):
a pocket guy. It was different. Do you worry at all?
He's got a defensive coach in Chicago. He didn't have
Sean Payton like Bonnicks, Right, he didn't have Sam Darnold,
Kevin O'Connell. He got a defensive young coach. Do you
worry that Caleb's accuracy stuff won't get fixed with a
defensive coach.
Speaker 10 (25:53):
You know my though here and this is where I
was with this, and I love the way you placed it,
because what you saw yesterday was a young man saying.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Whoa, games fast?
Speaker 7 (26:07):
WHOA.
Speaker 10 (26:08):
I didn't know what it was going to be like
this because that one play he made a spin. He
spent away from one guy. Right, Oh, but that's the
play right he spends again right here the year. You
know what I mean, I swear I don't know how
you got puilt up that play. That's exactly what I
was talking about. But in u USC, when he does
the first spin, he got another year to throw that ball.
(26:29):
He was like, man, the rest of them dude so slow.
They only got one guy that's really going to the league.
And most of those teams you played, and that's the
defensive end. You just spent away from him. Now you
got all time. And then when you look up, ain't
nobody attached to all of your receivers from USC, they're
all running wide over.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
You could play one eye one.
Speaker 10 (26:48):
Kind of way, But in the NFL you had three
or four jokers on you. When you spent they were
still shooting at you. WHOA wait a minute, where it's
coming from? And then back then everybody has somebody attached
to them, so you had to now adjust to and
it blows your mind.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
I thought about it this way.
Speaker 10 (27:11):
We played and we said, this man reminds us of
Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
I went this way.
Speaker 10 (27:17):
I said, I wonder if that's what Patrick Mahomes would
have looked like if he had to step on the
field for his first game. You see, Patrick Mahomes didn't
have to work out. And Andy reed. So now even
the first year, I'm not practicing, I'm not playing that way.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Imagine the knowledge I'm getting.
Speaker 10 (27:37):
In practice because it's it's Andy Reid as opposed to
what Caleb Williams have God that you were just talking about.
You see what I mean, those are the things that
we miss. And it comes down to Caylen Williams.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
I know you got.
Speaker 10 (27:55):
Physical capabilities, it's what's inside of you. Well term if
you can survive this, because you're you're going to be
looking in the mirror and questioning and wondering, boy, can
I really play? Am I really as good? As I
thought I was, because that's what this league does. You're
gonna win by yourself at little league football, You're gona
win by yourself in high school football. You can even
(28:18):
probably win by yourself in college.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
You need a whole damn team on this level. That's
just the reality.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
So I will Aaron Rodgers playing tonight. And I remember
when Tom Brady had the one serious injury. The next
year he came back. Tommy didn't want you near his knees.
He would darket officials if guy's got near it. Aaron's
played four snaps in five hundred days. Psychologically, now, you
didn't have many injuries, But psychologically, how is that not
(28:45):
in his head? Tonight?
Speaker 10 (28:47):
Well, I had n acl and and and I'm telling
you that almost broke me just being away from the
game and coming back to that game.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
I'll never forget. I returned.
Speaker 10 (28:58):
I missed the first four games the next season. I
returned against Tampa Bay.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (29:04):
It was our first time really playing together, all three
of us, Troy im and and me and and and
I caught the game winning touchdown. And they had a
picture in the paper right let me catching the game
winning touchdown. I swear to you guys, that's the only
pass I didn't watch all the way in. I don't
know how I caught it. I closed my eyes. I
was so scared.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
I don't know what.
Speaker 10 (29:25):
Even in the paper the next day, Dog they got
the catch touched own. I'll close last boy, why did
they catch that pig? You know what I'm saying, Oh
my god, Oh my god. It's the hardest thing in
the world. Why do you think Daniel Jones and Kirk
Cousins look like they look yesterday? And they played the
game a lot of years, but they look like they
(29:45):
haven't played the game.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
At all ever, You see what I mean?
Speaker 10 (29:48):
Because they were not just worried about all that speed
coming at them, they were worried about the capability of
their own body holding up in the midst of it,
because they don't want to go back through that kind
of a rehab. And yeah, anything you thinking about anything
on the football field, it makes you too late to
think for football, and those things just hold you back.
(30:09):
So I'm anxious to see what Anon Rodgers looked back
looked like tonight too. And remember san Fran always gave
him trouble. They all always give him trouble. You know
when he was in Green base and Frand was giving
him trouble.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, so week one. You know, my takeaway is, don't
go too crazy on this. And I think it's just
the sport is so popular and we love it. I
will say this though, the Chargers last year, last couple
of years, if they don't score thirty, they don't win.
Yesterday twenty two points. They won comfortably. They ran for
(30:43):
one hundred and seventy five yards. They didn't ask Justin
Herbert to do anything. I felt like they looks like Michigan,
right Harvall's got away Michael. I don't know how he
installs the toughness, but I watched them and I'm like,
that's a rock fight. That's what they do every hardball team,
college pro. It's crazy. How do they mean, how do
(31:07):
you get a team to be that was the softest
team in the league to be that physical.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
And right there?
Speaker 10 (31:11):
How do you get the team that that that was
the softest team and soft meaning every time they tried
to get physical, seemed like everybody went down, everybody was hurt,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Terrible third down.
Speaker 10 (31:25):
They had all the talent, but not the mentality, you know,
what I mean, we've seen this team. And here comes
Jim Habball and he did this last time around because
the league. He sees what the league trends for. It's
all passing. It's all passing. So now you're bringing in
(31:45):
fast guys that can chase the past, all kind of guys.
The linebackers getting small and faster. Everybody's getting small, so
you chase the past. And then here comes this dude,
Jim Haulball, saying, oh, let's buck the trend again. Let's
go back to just pounding, pounding, pounding, because everybody, right,
they're so light now, and let's just pound. And he
(32:08):
creates some mentality through training camp.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
He creates some mentality.
Speaker 10 (32:13):
And now, now imagine you don't have to try to
compete with Patrick Mahomes and beat him throw for throw.
You don't have to try to say, Okay, Patrick Mahomes,
we tried to stop you with this defense for years
and that just didn't happen.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
That's just not happening.
Speaker 10 (32:27):
Well, well, what has like the teams like Tennessee, those
kind of teams, they've given Kansas City Chiefs some problem
because they just say, we just gonna keep you on
the sideline running football.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Right, no nothing, no nothing.
Speaker 10 (32:40):
We want as little as you as we as as
we can get, and we're gonna run this football. And
that gives Kansas City some trouble. So yeah, this gives
them a shot to come in the back door right here.
I think the charge is not I'm.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Not saying they winning.
Speaker 10 (32:55):
They're winning that division. That gives them something, that gives
them something to work with.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Playmaker. Always good to see Michael Erbum, the man.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
It's always good being with you.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
We're on ninety minutes sleep and he made it to
our studio.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Yes, that's all.
Speaker 10 (33:09):
That's all I need on a Sunday night, coming in
a Monday that the.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Dallas Cowboys won.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
He'll take up.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
He'll catch up tonight
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