September 30, 2024 • 40 mins
Colin marvels at another remarkable performance from Lamar Jackson in the Ravens dominating win over the Bills. He tells you why he was right about Eagles head coach Nick Sirianni and wrong about Deion Sanders and Colorado football. Fox Sports NFL reporter Peter Schrager joins the show in studio to reveal why Washington and Jayden Daniels have gotten off to such a hot start
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Mackett was starting on you know before the weekend, you
got the Knicks doing something, pulling off a huge deal.
Then it's college football Saturday. Then it's the NFL. Capped
off last night by Lamar Jackson doing what he does
at a level nobody's ever done it, the running slash,
pocket quarterback wild weekend. Here comes October, Here come the
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baseball playoffs. You know I love Lamar Jackson. It's fascinating
to me. People love athletic quarterbacks except Lamar Jackson, and
he's the best at it. I mean, Johnny Manzel comes out.
I was assured I didn't buy it, but he'd be great.
And I have defended Kyler Murray but he's tiny and
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regressing and hard to coach. And then I was told
Justin Field and Anthony Richardson, and it's like, I know
what it looks like when it's great, and what it
looks like when it's great's Lamar Jackson, who, because of
his work, ethic and his passion, has become the soul
of the city, the soul of the franchise. Lamar Jackson's unbelievable.
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He's the greatest all time running talent. And now Baltimore
finally got him a star back who healthy, really nice receivers,
Mark Andrews Titan. And this is what it looks like.
Think about Buffalo a week ago, we thought Buffalo was
the best team in the world. They gave up last night.
They quit. They just they had They couldn't stop him
nine yards of play in the first half. This is
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a guy that is twenty one and one against the
NFC and Chris collins Worth pointed this out. There's no
way to prepare for Lamar Jackson. Your best bet is
to be Cleveland, Cincinnati or the Steelers. You see him
a couple times a year and you kind of understand
the game speed and his ability. Those teams have a
much better shot. Not even Mahomes dominates a conference like
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Lamar Jackson does. He's twenty one and one against the NFC.
Because if you don't see him frequently or never, I mean,
he humiliated an excellent Detroit team. Last year, he humiliated
San Francisco. So no star quarterback in this sport, it's weird,
has more critics, But well, tell me you love the
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athletic quarterbacks. I like my quarterbacks to be athletic. But
I don't even know if you can use that term
for Lamar because when I watch him, if you gave
me one quarterback and one team to watch every week
half the time, it would be Lamar Jackson. And what
we try to do is and this is the way
it works. We've all had a boss like this. We
all know this is true. Everybody tries to define you
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and jam you into a box, like Jamie Foxx goes
to Hollywood. He can dance, he can sing, he can act,
he can do game shows. He's funny.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
He can do anything.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Don't put him in a box. He can do anything.
Jackson has a passer, writing over one hundred in the
last three big games he's faced. Because y'all tell me
he doesn't win big games. Casey, Dallas and Buffalo. Two
of them were verty good defenses. He's completing sixty nine
percent of his throws. This is just the throwing part.
Sixtd's no picks, so you don't get any reckless. You
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get all the upside. What's the downside? Well, I can't
beat mahomes Well, last time I checked, nobody except Brady
at the end. Could I watched this kid? Yes, Derrick
Henry was sensational. Well, Dereck Henry's been sensational most of
his career. He's on the latter end of his career.
But part of what allows Dereck Henry or a JK.
Dobbins or a running back to flourish with Lamar Jackson
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in this offense is you're terrified. You can't cheat, you
can't lean into a good back because if Lamar's decides,
I'm just gonna keep it. He's faster than your corners
and your linebackers and your safeties. The kid's incredible. I
don't want to hear that he can't win big games.
In the last calendar year, he's destroyed the Niners and
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the Cowboys, and Buffalo and the Dolphins, and Houston twice,
and Seattle and Cincinnati. He's winning big games. He can't
beat Mahomes. The kid is absolutely remarkable. Passer rating over
one hundred, exhilarating. If you're gonna love the quarterbacks that move,
then you have to love the greatest athletic moving quarterback
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all the time. But he's never been given respect. We're
watching all these young quarterbacks throughout the course of NFL history.
They struggle. They come into the league. They can't quite
figure it out. They can't slow the game down. Lamar's
the only player that came in was faster than the league.
They were hoping he would slow down Week eleven, first
year comes in. Wow, next year MVP. As long as
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Lamar Jackson is healthy and quarterbacking the Baltimore Ravens, they
will always be in the Super Bowl bubble. I think
the kids absolutely phenomenal. Buffalo A week ago, looked like
the best team in the league, and they just waved
the white flag. They just surrendered, the hands up their
body language. There's nothing you can do, here's the coach after.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
We have weapons, you know, we're just we're blessed with weapons.
I mean when I'm just walked in here right now,
best weapon in football right there, and everybody rallies around.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Him and he distributes to everybody else.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
So that's where it starts.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Now.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
We know we are just getting better. We know it's possible,
we know what we're capable of, but we got a
long way to go.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I just I can't take my eyes off Lamar Jackson.
I'm always being sold on all these quarterbacks that run
around and move and might take you. No, I got one.
There's one, and that's what you should look like. And
it's the best I've ever seen. Matt and I listen.
Steve Young was the first time I saw a quarterback,
and I'm like, you can run like all the time
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and be great, and Steve Young was amazing. But this
is better than Steve Young. I know he didn't have
a trophy, but I mean, when you are he had
a move last night and only picked up a couple
of yards they got Collinsworth picked up on it where
he literally moonwalked. He went into a hole and put
it in reverse, shifted, went to the left, went back in.
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What was that? What did I just watch? The kid
is remarkable and good for him last night. Okay, here's
what's not remarkable. This one actually shocked me. For rookie quarterback.
Usually for them to win, it has to be kind
of situational, right like they're at home, they've got a
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little extra prep time. I thought the Jets with Aaron
Rodgers with extra prep time against Denver and a rookie quarterback,
I thought this was a terrible spot for the Denver Broncos. Instead,
it looked like the Jets didn't practice. It's time to
recalibrate the Jets. They've played four games. They've been really
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good in one of them. The worst team in the league,
New England. That was on a short week. They didn't
play well against Tennessee. They got a Will Levis break,
they got housed by the Niners, beat by Denver. Like
this team, recalibrate it. Four games, one really good one.
They are not a well coached team. Thirteen penalties, Cadence
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issues with veteran offensive linemen Bryce Hall, Breeze Hall, excuse me,
where do you go? Oh? What happened to him?
Speaker 6 (08:02):
So?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Alan Lazard screwed up a drive with an idiotic penalty,
had to settle for a field golf. That was Aaron's guy.
We know Aaron seeks comfort, right, that was his guy,
and Natt Hackett that was his guy. Come on, this
offense is just not good enough. Now I will say
Patrick's er can put him on. Garrett Wilson slows him down.
We talked about that last week. You know there's about
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three stop corners in the league, lockdown guys. Denver's got one.
So that was gonna be a tough week for Garrett Wilson.
But it was the penalties Alan Lazard, veteran offensive lineman
Caen Cadence issues. This is not a well coached team
and this has been the year of the underdog. Believe me,
my Picks Friday, it's been the year of the underdog.
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But uh, that was a game. You can't lose. The
Jets with Aaron Rodgers, a veteran on line, had extra
time to prepare for a Denver team that decided let's
just still give us the only chance to win.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
And it was ugly.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
And I'm not blaming Aaron, but you know, Aaron likes
to be alone. He doesn't, you know, like to be
the only guy like and it felt like Aaron running
around and scrambling and making up time with his feet.
I'll give Aaron Rodgers credit. He wasn't very accurate. He
didn't play particularly well. I don't know how to describe
the cadence issues. That guy was running for his life.
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The two things we worried about with his team were
Aaron Rodgers' health. Sacked five times, fourteen hits. That is
not the recipe. That can't games like the Jets season
can't look like that. Aaron cannot take that beating. He
did a great job to be active, to move his feet.
He was scrambling. Give Aaron a ton of credit. But
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he wanted this offensive coordinator. This was his choice, and
he wanted Alan Lazard and they're not doing him favors.
So the two things we worried about were Aaron's health
that was not that didn't look good yesterday, and we
worried about prickly Aaron. Robert Sala in Green Bay. You
have more veteran coaches, less chaos. We worried about Sala
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and Aaron Rodgers, and after that awful performance at home
against a rookie quarterback who threw for sixty yards, here
was the coach and Aaron after.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
We got to figure it out whether or not we're
good enough to handle all them or ready to handle
all the kittens at Kitten's had not been an issue
all camp. Felt like our operation had been operating pretty good. Obviously,
today it took a major step back. The Cayden specifically,
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Robert said, that might be something you've asked have to
dial back a little bit. Is that something you think
could potentially help the situation.
Speaker 8 (10:50):
That's fun way to do it. The other ways hold
them accountable. I mean, we haven't had an issue. We've
had one false start, Morgan at one false start, I
believe until this so you know, it's been a weapon.
We use it every day in practice. You know, we
rarely have a full start, and they have I don't
know five today it seemed like four or five. Yeah,
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it's and it seems like it out there. I don't
know if we need to make mass.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Changes once again, feels like a little pettiness, little anger.
Hey listen, I'm not blaming Aaron. We know he likes
to be alone. He can't do it alone. I'm not
blaming Aaron. And I do not think this is a
well run team. But last week we were talking, Oh
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my god, ticker tape gets like, No, this is still
a poorly coached, poorly owned team with an offensive line
that's in flux. That's what it looked like, and a
team you can't trust in big spots. And by the way,
I'll tell you why that game was so important, and
everybody in New York knows why it's important. The next
three games are the hottest team in the league, the Vikings,
the Bills are in a bad mood now, and the Steelers,
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who can't score but have a great defense. Good luck
with your O line against that Steelers defense. So we
looked at this schedule and we thought, man, you talk
about three layups. You barely get by Tennessee, you lose
to Denver. Now comes some really interesting matchups, because the
end of the season can get real dicey. But these
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were supposed to be layups. Four games, one good performance,
and everybody's looked good. I mean, the Niners yesterday? What
was that against the Patriots? That was that a scrimmage?
It didn't even look like a game. It was more
of a scrimmage. So not good, Jay mach I know
you're freaking out. Now. The good news is New York
fans mostly don't have to watch it in person. Against Minnesota,
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it's over in London. So you know, a thirty four
to ten loss, you know, you could just you know,
mow the lawn and you don't have to go to
the game or anything.
Speaker 9 (12:50):
All right, let's settle down a little bit. First of all,
no freaking out here. It was bad loss.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
I think if there's anything to freak out about, it's
Rogers versus Sola, and they're not on the same page.
Speaker 9 (13:02):
And this dates back to the whole Egypt thing.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Remember where Sala opened his mouth as something silly and
Rogers pushed back.
Speaker 9 (13:08):
And I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
I'd like to get those two in a room in
front of the media and hash this out, because otherwise
this could fester all season to ruin it for the Jet.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
We talked about this last week. It's so funny. So
it's really fun when Aaron's in a good mood off
a win. He looks good, he's happy, but we said Friday,
he gets dark very quickly. Aaron gets dark very quickly.
Look at him on that podium. If I couldn't hear
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the sound, he looks pissed. Aaron's interesting, like a lot
of quarterback Tom Brady, if you turn the sound down,
win or lose. I never knew Peyton Manning didn't know.
Like there's a lot of quarterbacks. Lamar's facial expression, his
body language. Aaron literally looks like a different person when
he's in a bad mood. So that's what I see.
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What do you think it's like in real time? In person?
So like Aaron step to that podium yesterday, you don't
even have to just look at the body language, look
at the face. And he's always done this. Aaron is
split personality. When things are good, he's charismatic, he's funny,
he's a great guest, he's amazing. That dude goes dark
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really fast, and he tends to passive aggressively turn on people.
That's what that felt like to me. That felt like, oh,
is is that what the coach says? Or you could
hold people accountable?
Speaker 9 (14:33):
Well, listen.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
They had thirteen penalties I read run reports that ten
of them were against the offense.
Speaker 9 (14:38):
So to defend Salah, Yeah, a lot of screw ups.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
I mean at home. I know it was in the rain,
but didn't We played in the ring too yesterday? Right,
just just being okay.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Bow Nicks threw for sixty yards on the road and
beat Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
That can't happen.
Speaker 9 (14:52):
I'm on a Minnesota.
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All right, we do it every Monday. Colin Wright, Colin wrong.
Here we go where Colin was right? Well, I predicted
before the season Kingsbury would be a home run higher
and Washington would make the playoffs. I said they're going
to be the surprise team. They'll make the wild card. Yeah,
well they may win the division. Kingsbury's been a perfect fit.
Washington has more listen to this, more scoring drives than incompletions.
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I don't even know how to explain that. That's ridiculous.
That's video game. That's ridiculous. Through four games, Jayden Daniels
has the highest completion percentage in league history. Eighty two
percent of his passes. I was told before the season,
get on the Washington bandwagon. Early new owner GM coach
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Kingsbury's going to be a home run. We were right
on that.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
One where Colin was raw.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, my optimism was Sean McVeigh and Matt Stafford fixing
all the problems for the Rams health. It's my optimism's dying.
Pooka no Cooper, they have no playmakers. Everything has to
be a long drive. Matt Stafford not super mobile moves okay,
as trying to save the team and he can't. They's
don't have any players offensive line. The backups are backups
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to backups. McVeigh is great, but there are limitations when
you get cluster injuries to two key areas for an
offensive coach. And this is just not going to be
the Rams year where Colin was right day one on
Nick Sirianni, I said, I was told he was not
a head coach. He was closer to a position coach.
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They are not only three to eight in their last
eleven games, folks, They're the only NFL team without a
point in the first quarter. And listen, I know there's injuries.
This is the NFL everybody's heard from his opening press
conference on I think there have been times when he's
been a bit juvenile to be a head coach. I
didn't have a certain gravtas and Philadelphia is a well
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run organization, but they are very impatient, and I don't
know if he lasts the.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Seas where Colin was raw.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
You know, I defended the Doug Peterson hire in Jacksonville
post Urban Meyer. I thought he had the right temperament.
Doug's not gonna yell and bark. It's gonna work. But
this thing's unraveling. They've lost five straight. Trevor Lawrence has
lost nine straight. It's an organization and this was a
little bit Doug's reputation. They're a little loose, they're not
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great on the details. And I've supported Doug from day one,
and I'm not sure who's exactly to blame, but there
are fissures now and they're going public. Here's Doug after
the loss. Coaches, we can't make the we can't go
out there and make the plays right.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
It's a two way street.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
So you know, you guys can sit here and point
the finger.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
All you want, and that's fine, point right at me.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I can take it.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
If it's not working, it's not in rhythm, whether it's
your plays or not.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
You Hazel play college.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah, sure, okay, I'll take it into consideration when it
goes public. When the couple's fighting in public, don't know
what the drive homes like. It's trouble in Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Anthony Richardson. He's fun to watch, but you got it
complete stuff from the pocket. It's hard. I get it.
But yesterday he got hurt again. He's reckless. You know,
I understand loving athletic quarterbacks. Nobody's a bigger fan of Lamar.
I've been defending him for four or five years. But
the Anthony Richardson thing. If Shane Steichen can't fix it,
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and he's one of the really smart guys in this league,
if he can't fix it, I don't think you can
fix it. Yesterday again, Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Got hurt where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Don't buy the Browns ownership. I love the coach, I
love the general manager, but I think Deshaun Watson was desperate. Yesterday,
passer rating at eighty five, Raiders were missing Devonte Adams
and Max Crosby. Their two best players. That's as vulnerable
as the Raiders can be. Raiders are still rebuilding and
Cleveland couldn't get it done. So I've said before, just
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I look at organization's top down, I don't buy Cleveland.
I think Stefanski and Andrew Berry you're really sharp guys,
but I think their hands are tied and this contract
is awful.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Where Colin was raw, boy.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Was I wrong on Colorado three weeks ago? Two weeks ago,
I said, give me a break. You're the fake idea
of college football. You're trying to tell us you're something
you're not. Uh yeah, They're now four and one and
this weekend. Now we know Travis Hunter is the best
player in college football and Shaduur Sanders has talent. But
to beat forty eight to twenty one over UCF and
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some of the plays in this game, this is not
supposed to be a great draft. What if Colorado gets
Travis Hunter taking one, shaduor Sanders taking number two? You
think it's crazy, But when you watch these guys play,
you talk about jump through the television. They're insane talents.
Dion now is beating ranked teams. They're four and one.
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I was way wrong where Colin was, But I thought
Bama would beat Georgia. Carson Beck good luck. But after
watching saduor Sanders are not going number one. And I'll
say this, Kaitlin de Boord did this at Washington. He
got the Huskies do a national championship without a lot
of NFL bodies. His ability too. He's not a great recruiter,
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but he may develop offensive players as well as anybody
I have ever seen. This game was a blowout early,
then Georgia pulls back. But I said when he got
the job, it would be the greatest coaching handoff in
the history of college football. I said, he's basically Saban
on the offensive side of the ball, and to take
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that lead and dominate Georgia that had won forty two
straight games. Go back and look at what he inherited
at Washington and what it became. The guy is a marvel.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Where Colin was right, I.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Said, be careful about telling me the Saints are going
to rule the league. You got a new coordinator, But
I think Derek Carr's more middle of the pact than
elite Dennis Allen last year questions about the coaching, I
think Atlanta is going to win this division. I think
Tampa has been a great story, but this offense to
me in the first couple of weeks was not sustainable.
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Now maybe Washington Commander's offense isn't sustainable either, But Jayden
Daniels just looks different than everybody else in the league.
Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
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Speaker 1 (21:29):
Fox Sports NFL reporter Peter Schreger from best selling books
to podcasts. He's in LA from time to time for
doing that Sunday show, and he says, hey, I'll stop by.
Busy guy, young family crushing it all right, So I
said earlier, you and I both are fans of Cliff Kingsbury,
and you know this shrigs very well that some guys,
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you know, Cliff is not a barker the boy. When
it comes to play Colin play designing quarterback development, it
kind of feels I don't know how to explain, but
I'm watching, but everything is working with the Commanders, not
a flup. This is what is.
Speaker 10 (22:09):
They've punted one time since Week one. They've had twenty
three scoring drives this season. They've only had nineteen eight
complete passes. They have a rookie quarterback who's completing eighty
two percent of his pass attempts, and he's not throwing
like two passes a game. He's throwing thirty passes a game.
And I'll give you a little journey on Cliff. I've
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spent a lot of time with Cliff, especially the last
two years since he got fired by the Cardinals.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
And remember the Cardinals are paying the bulk.
Speaker 10 (22:36):
Of his salary still, so they pay him and every money,
every dollar he takes from Washington is offset from his
Arizona contract. But last year I'd fly out for Fox
on Saturdays and we would have the Fox kickoff show
on Sundays. A lot of times I would get dinner
with Cliff on Saturday nights in Los Angeles because USC
would be done and we'd.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Link up whatever.
Speaker 10 (22:56):
And his situation at USC was so unique in a
disgusting nil world and with everyone transferring, and Cliff's deal
with Lincoln Riley, who they know from Texas Tech days,
was you deal with the head coach, and you deal
with the recruiting duties, and you deal with the nil duties.
All I want to do is work with Caleb Williams
and draw up plays and work with that offense and
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get in the lab.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
That's Cliff's happy place.
Speaker 10 (23:21):
And he didn't go into a single mother's living room
and beg him, don't go to Penn State.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
We're gonna pay you this amount of money. You don't
have to go with any of that.
Speaker 10 (23:28):
He just focused on a playbook and built this playbook,
and Caleb was wonderful. You go into this offseason, the
sliding doors factor here is insane. So I think if
I was to call it early on in the process,
Washington's number one guy was Ben Johnson, the offensive.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Court andator to be their head coach. Ben Johnson pulls
his name out, says, I'm going back to Detroit.
Speaker 10 (23:47):
God bless him. He goes back to Detroit. They pivot,
they go to dan Quinn. Cliff Kingsbury interviewed with the
Chicago Bears for I think six hours out here in Marina.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Del Rey Yeap told about that, Yep, all.
Speaker 10 (23:58):
Right, interview for the offense coordinator job. He's like, I
don't know ebraflus, but I love Caleb and we'll see
what happens. The interview goes goes fairly well. Cliff thinks
he's got a shot. They never hear us back from him.
They basically tell him we're moving in another direction. They
hire Eberflus interviews with Philly. He's like, Jalen Hurts, I
would love to use this new playbook with Jalen Hurts.
Awesome quarter didn't get offered the job Raiders. They agree
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to a job, but then they start talking about the
numbers of the contract in the years in the contract
that falls apart. That's three NFL teams that had a
chance to bring in Cliff with young quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
And it and all liked him.
Speaker 10 (24:30):
And then Dan Quinn the day the Raiders thing falls apart,
is like, dude, should we roll this back?
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Should we do this? Should we make this happen?
Speaker 10 (24:36):
And Cliff got in the lab and was like, all right,
let's look at these quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Caleb's likely off the board.
Speaker 10 (24:42):
Remember the Bears didn't even meet with Jayden Daniels, didn't
even care to meet him. They said we're taking him
no matter what. And then Cliff started building an offense
that day built around Jayden and Daniels's skill set.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Before even meeting him. So they've been building this offense.
Speaker 10 (24:55):
Jaden gets in there and he comes in with fifty
five starts at the college level, Arizona State, then LSU.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
He has seen it all.
Speaker 10 (25:02):
Do you know who his number one wide receiver was
his freshman year at Arizona State, Brandon Aiyuk, who's like
a five year veteran, so he has played for a
long time. He came ready and it's just a perfect
match of new owner, new GM, new head coach, new
offensive coordinator, and then this amazing gift that fell in
their laps at number two.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
And he's been outstanding.
Speaker 10 (25:20):
And it's the first time in my professional career and
I've been doing this since probably early two thousands that
there's genuine excitement around the Washington football team, Washington Commanders
in this case, not the Redskins.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
And it's not with a yeah, but it's like no,
there's everything is right.
Speaker 10 (25:36):
The crew that brought around him, they didn't just go
and hired and signed some diva wide receiver, like we
like McLaurin. We're gonna bring in Bobby Wagner, maybe the
best defensive leader. We're gonna bring in Zach Ertz maybe
the best offensive leader in the league.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
Oh, and then we're also gonna have like Austin Eckler and.
Speaker 10 (25:49):
Marcus Mariota and Frankie lou What if all these guys
have in common. They're great teammates and great dudes. And
then you drop in Jaden Daniels and it's all working.
So we're four weeks in, but I think there's not
enough that can be said about all the different paths
it took to get here, and it just has worked
out beautifully.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Great story, good storytelling there. I love that Kansas City
is so strange, so all their games look the exact same.
They've won ten straight, nine close. I said earlier they
should teach crisis management. Somebody's always hurt, somebody's traded their
offensive line, They've rebuilt it twice. This isn't what dynasties
look like. They look like Kevin Durant and Steph Yes.
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Alabama was saban. Every game's close. It's getting to be
New england Ish where you're like, I'm not even sure
they have as many good players as the Chargers. I
always felt that with New England. I'm like, Ravens have
better players. What do we make you were there yesterday.
Now it's for she Rice. Cross your fingers, because he'd
really become a dude. What do you make of what
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you're watching?
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Well, I would be shocked if for she Rice is
available this rest of the season. He's done.
Speaker 10 (26:55):
I think that was a real you know, Andrey, I
don't want to play doctor on TV before their official
results are in, But that's an ACA and he'll be out.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
So now you lose.
Speaker 10 (27:02):
Hollywood Brown, who they never even got a chance to use,
who's supposed to be their number one wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
He lose Rashi Rice, who's the number two.
Speaker 10 (27:07):
You lose Isaiah Pacheco, who's their number one running back.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
And you look at it and you say, okay.
Speaker 10 (27:13):
They find a way and like yesterday at the game,
Kareem Hunt wearing twenty nine, you know, because twenty seven
is now worn by Chamari Connor and it's Kareem Hunt
who hasn't played there for five years. But he comes
back and he's gobbling up yards. They find a way.
Samaj Pyron gets let go by the Broncos. The Chiefs
bring him on and they're like, all right, we'll make
a way to work the hidden secret with this. Chiefs
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team A. Their defense is.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Outstanding and they're really really good.
Speaker 10 (27:38):
They were sending you know, zero blitz the entire game
and giving Justin Herbert Hell yesterday.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
And the other secret is they replenish in the draft.
Speaker 10 (27:46):
So it's like Lugarius Sneed was a great Kansas City
chief signed for a ton of money with the Titans.
We have replacements ready because they've been training him for
two years. So Jalen Watson can step up, or Josh
Williams or Chamarry Connor. This is a real test, though, Colin,
I don't know if they have the horses.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Like losing all these guys.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Now Worthy does give him an over the top pop,
Yes he does.
Speaker 10 (28:07):
Yes, but that is asking a lot out of an
over the pop, Like now you're the number one wide receiver.
He's guy hasn't been and that's the big ask. And
then Kelsey looks like he's a slapt step slower. Whether
or not that's going to cause the ire of football
fans everywhere. I think it's fair to say he's not
the same guy he was three years ago. So then
you start looking and Brett Veach has never been scared
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to pick up the phone. He's a general manager, and
I think he's the best in the game. And you know,
a couple of years ago they thought they needed an
next or something.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
The Giants traded Kadarius Tony sixty cents on the dollar.
Speaker 10 (28:38):
He plays a big role in that Super Bowl went over.
There doesn't work out, it.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Works. So some names that you'll hear over the next
couple of days, Yeah, let's go through them.
Speaker 10 (28:49):
I think you look at Amari Cooper making a lot
of money in Cleveland, like, do you not call up
Andrew Berry and say what what would you be willing
to look at? I look at DeAndre Hopkins in Tennessee.
I say that team's zero to three tonight. They're playing
money night football makes a ton of money. But is
there something we can work out contract wise? I said this,
and I got a lot of pushback. Doesn't come from
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the Rams guys. But I would call on Cooper Cup,
I would see I would call every team. I would
call thirty one teams, and I would say, all right,
your team is not going to the super Bowl this year.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
You're playing this amount of money.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Rams could take picks.
Speaker 10 (29:23):
They want a quarterback that gosh, look, I love Cup
and Stafford loves Cup. And I know McVeigh loves Cups,
so they're probably not going to trade Cup. But it
doesn't hurt to call and see, Okay, you're one in
three and Pooka's out for the next four weeks and
cups cut. So what would it take to get this
future Hall of Famer? Because I would assume every team
picks up the phone and then you could say, no,
(29:43):
we're good. Yeah, you go down the list on a
lot of these names, and I think those Jaguars, veteran
ro chieters like Christian Kirk, like those types like.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yep pro total pro, all these guys.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Can help good the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I'm not a big swing like Devonte Adam.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
I just don't think the Raiders would trade them in
the division.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Okay, okay, fair, Yep, they know that's.
Speaker 10 (29:59):
The one of those like any other team, Yes, and
I think that's that's going that. But I think you
would want to look to guys who are outside the
division and they don't have much money, like they only
have like five million dollars in the salary cap. But
if we've learned anything about the NFL in recent years,
there's wiggle room. There's way to move money and if
there's veteran players who are making a lot, they can
restructure their contracts to make those deals happen. So curious
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to see if Veitch just sits tight and says, hey,
we've gotten three rougher times before.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Though, or if they get aggressive. Let me let me
say this Travis Kelsey's aging. I do think they're in
this tiny window where, like, you know, you'd say to yourself, well,
you've got two trophies. But you know what, like as
New England proved they couldn't win with Randy Moss, like
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this drought. It's I mean, the Ravens are young and
going nowhere. San Francisco, Detroit know their windows are wide open.
So I could see Kansas City saying we got two
in a row. We've got moment you read is now
high sixties.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
Why not?
Speaker 10 (31:02):
And also Colin, since the invent of the Super Bowl
in nineteen sixty seven, no franchise that are won three
in a row. If ever there was a team that
you'd say, Okay, you guys traded too much, but you'd
give them.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
The benefit of the doubt. It's the Chiefs chasing history.
Speaker 10 (31:16):
You're going three straight, so they're looking to go I
call it the Chief's peed, but it's the three peat.
I just want pat Riley to assume me they're looking
to win three in a row here. So if they
gave up multiple first round picks and they mortgaged the
future to bring in a star number one wide receiver
or to bring in a stud number two wide receiver
a Keenan Allen, I'm just sure that the guys that
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are veterans that might not necessarily have a long runway
with their current teams. I don't think any Chief stand
would spite them, like now is the time.
Speaker 9 (31:43):
We're going for history.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
We're trying to be the greatest team of all time.
Speaker 10 (31:46):
Yeah, okay, so for three years from now, we don't
have a backup left tackle, Okay, let's go for it.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah all right. So I thought this was a terrible
spot for the Broncos YEP, and a great spot for
the Jets. Star quarter old offensive line getting extra time
to prepare at home, Like this team is old lines,
a little older, got a few extra days. Here comes
rookie bow nicky and they're over under was five wins.
(32:13):
I think they're better than that. And I'm looking up
in thirteen penalties for the Jets. But I will say this,
the Broncos game plan was like seven in the box
beat us. You know Sean Payton very well. I think
that flight back to Denver was one of the best
flights he's had.
Speaker 10 (32:33):
It's been so long since they've been back to Denver.
They won in Tampa, which was a huge win. And
what Sean did in that game, and I spoke to
him afterwards, was they won the coin toss.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
You never see teams receive anymore.
Speaker 10 (32:45):
He said, let's receive, and let's give bo Nicks the
confidence in this Tampa game.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
First drive, We're giving you the ball. Gole right down
the field, march down the field. Score they did.
Speaker 10 (32:52):
All right, you finally have your first big scoring drive
and they blew out the Buccaneers. Instead of flying back
to Denver, they stayed on the East Coast. They stayed
at the Green Yeah, which is this resor West Virginia. Well,
they didn't realize Hurricane Helen was coming, so they run
their entire Friday walk through in an indoor bubble that
is not a football field, is a hard court tennis court.
(33:12):
So they're running their offense on a tennis court with
you know, fifty three guys in running sneakers doing their
entire game plan. So Sean is just, you know, like, okay,
we're but they were galvanized by this. They were all
in this together and now they go into this horrendous weather.
Friday night, I saw a concert at Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
I'm not kidding. A new Peyton was coming in and
he used to work with us at Fox. Jelly Roll.
I don't know if you're fine, jelly Roll should be
doing the halftime show. That's my take. Anyway, they call
up I call up Peyton.
Speaker 10 (33:41):
I'm like, is there any chance I know it's the season,
and he was like, shregs, are you out of your mind?
He's like, I am knee deep in Jets footage and
Vance Joseph is trying to stop this thing. Like in
my foolish head, I'm like, oh, maybe he can go
out and go see a concert on a Friday night.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Like that's not where his head was.
Speaker 10 (33:57):
Their head was, let's go take care of the Jets
and let's figure out a game plan. Yes, all the penalties,
but Vance Joseph's defense was outstanding. That was and they
didn't ask bon Nicks to throw thirty five times in
the rain. They didn't ask bon Nicks to do anything
he can. He threw the touchdown past to Courtland, something
that was enough. Jelly Roll was amazing, and so was
Post Malone, who stepped up and did a song as well.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah, yeah, finally, I uh one of my only good picks.
I like the Ravens last night. I thought they presented
an offense that Buffalo hadn't seen yet. And I also
think we all tend to watch Monday night football and
fall in love with teams. It's just hard to win.
It's hard to win a standalone game on the road
at night when you're facing Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson.
But I will tell you about Lamar Jackson. For years
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and years, we were always like decent backs, Mark Andrews.
Decent back Mark Andrews. Now maybe the fourth option. They
have real weapons, Like they may be the fastest team
on the perimeter in the league. If Kansas City's defense
is the fastest, it may the fastest offense may be Baltimore.
I don't know. I know we worried. Jay mckin I
talked about O line. Are they better than last year?
Speaker 10 (35:03):
But etually they might be in fact, I was very
concerned about the O line. They lost three veteran starters
and Morgan Moses and Fallele and Zeitler, and it was like,
all right or not?
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Not Filele, I'm sorry.
Speaker 10 (35:15):
So they lost Morgan Moses, they lost Zeitler, and then
they lost John Simpson to the Jets, and they bring
in three other guys.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
To start and you're like, I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 10 (35:23):
And then that first week against the Chiefs, it was like, yep,
their offensive line is issues, and oh a thirty two
year old defensive coordinator Zach Orr is not Mike McDonald
who's now the head coaches, and it's already week four,
and it's like they might be better. They might be
better on the offensive line.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
They're younger.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I mean last night there were huge holes, huge like
all we respect their defensive personal coaching.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
And guess what for as good as Likely and Andrews
are catching the ball, they block their asses off. And
then you got pat riccardon there just polling guys.
Speaker 10 (35:51):
So Henry was a very interesting signing around the league
of people raise their eyebrows when are yeah Derek Henry,
thirty year old Derek Henry enjoyed that. We've seen Emtt
Smith and a Cardinal's jersey. We've seen Marshawn Lynch in
a Raiders jersey. You've seen Adrian Peterson in a Saints jersey.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Enjoy that.
Speaker 10 (36:06):
Derrick Henry looks looks fast, he looks stronger, he looks thinner,
he looks happier.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
He's got four hundred and eighty yards through four games.
Speaker 10 (36:16):
It's the most I think anyone's had through four games
since Stephen Davis, who did it with the Panthers in
like three And they are suddenly jelling and it only
took a couple of weeks to get all these new
guys involved. And yeah, a thirty two year old defensive coordinator,
I've never seen Josh Allen have fits like that last night.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
So we had forty two yards passing in the first half.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
That was it. They came in averaging thirty seven points
a game.
Speaker 10 (36:38):
So I know a lot of people are out here
this morning and they're saying, Okay, you know, Ravens, that's
the Super Bowl team of the best team of football.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
I say, slow down, like, let's see.
Speaker 10 (36:46):
But that version of the Ravens that we saw last night,
no one's beating them. But that version is not what's
shown up in January the past few years. And I'm
fully aware that the Ravens have a tendency of in
big games.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
In the playoffs.
Speaker 10 (36:59):
Yeah, into turtles and they go into their shell and
they run the ball eight times like last year.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
You know it's funny though, and we do this all
the time. I mean, Dan Marino, Charles Barkley, Karl Malone.
Great players don't always win titles. And sometimes it's because,
like Phil Mickelson, if there's no Tiger Woods, he's got
seven more made outs, and it's and let me defend Lamar.
So in the last calendar year, they have crushed the Bills,
the Bengals, the Seahawks, the Texans twice, the forty nine Ers,
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the Lions. He is a great big game player, those
damn Chiefs. I mean, it kind of feels. And I
also did not like the game plan at all in
that AFC. I didn't get it. But I'll tell you this,
I don't know if there's a quarterback, maybe Mahomes, but
I always feel like Andy Reid's part of their soul.
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Lamar's the soul, Like you can just tell the way
Harbaugh talks, It's like the city loves him. It's just
a really cool relationship.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
He's the man.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
He is it.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
He's the man.
Speaker 10 (37:57):
And if it wasn't Mahomes, he'd be the face of
the league and a million in ways because he's everything
that's right about the league.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Org Gothic passion, soft spoken, not look at me, look
at me.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Gros This idea that he can't pass in the pocket.
Dude is a good pocket passer.
Speaker 10 (38:10):
He's a two time MVP. The guy's amazing. Yeah, we
need to see it when it matters in January.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
What one quick story, So listen, I love Donald, and
then Carolina and the Jets have ruined a lot of guys,
and then he goes to San Francisco and and you
know obviously Kevin, O'Connell, Lafleur, McVeigh, Kyle, they all talk.
And it is interesting because I always thought Donald could
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be a bit reckless. He had a Carson Wentz DNA,
But I did think he was good guy, tough, athletic move. Well,
the stories you hear now is the San Francisco experience,
yep changed him? What do we what do we know
about that?
Speaker 5 (38:51):
And sit back learn from maybe the.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Kevin O'Connell call Kyle and just there.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Was a there was a rat race to get I mean,
this is the I always say this.
Speaker 10 (38:59):
There is no play in football that has a bigger
delta between what coaches and NFL people think of him
than what most in the media.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
I know you've been a fan.
Speaker 10 (39:10):
Most of the media think he's a scrub and a bus.
Coaches still believe in Sam Donald. And I will tell
you that Washington was very hot for Sam Donald. Adam Peters,
who's the great GM of the Commanders, came from San Francisco,
knew what he had and then it was kind of
a bidding war and he chose Minnesota, and thank god
he did because he has an opportunity to play and
he's getting to revitalize his career.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
The league knows.
Speaker 10 (39:30):
He's he's younger than Joe Burrow. I think he's I
think he's the same age, if not a month older
than Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah, he and Lamar Yeah.
Speaker 10 (39:38):
And this is you're talking about a guy that is
twenty six years old and has the future ahead of
him and just needed the right support system.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
In San Francisco. He was able to press, pause, take.
Speaker 10 (39:49):
A foot off the pedal, sit back, learn, have a
second to just breathe. And then he gets put in
this amazing situation with an offensive head coach and Kevin
O'Connell who has just nurtured and encouraged him.
Speaker 5 (39:59):
I'll tell you this.
Speaker 10 (39:59):
They after JJ McCarthy, but to a man, anyone I
spoke to in Minnesota was like, that's Sam Donald's team
this year to start, and we'll see what happens. But
it was never like a quarterback competition in Minnesota. Donald
one year, ten million dollars real money. It's not like
he signed for two million dollars a year, real money,
and they were committed to giving him the first opportunity,
the first crack at it, and he's run away with it.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
He's been unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Sugar, you bring the best story. Let's go a lot
of pressure on you to J mack. J mack tomorrow.
Can you give me a big story like that? Can
you want one big story? How about just won this week?
Speaker 6 (40:31):
I thought I was giving out winners like Canby last week,
and now you're putting pressure on me stories.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
I look for winners from you. I like from story. Okay,
you do give winners. It's great to see anybody.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Oh, that's awesome. Thank you.
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Mackett was starting on you know before the weekend, you
got the Knicks doing something, pulling off a huge deal.
Then it's college football Saturday. Then it's the NFL. Capped
off last night by Lamar Jackson doing what he does
at a level nobody's ever done it, the running slash,
pocket quarterback wild weekend. Here comes October, Here come the
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baseball playoffs. You know I love Lamar Jackson. It's fascinating
to me. People love athletic quarterbacks except Lamar Jackson, and
he's the best at it. I mean, Johnny Manzel comes out.
I was assured I didn't buy it, but he'd be great.
And I have defended Kyler Murray but he's tiny and
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regressing and hard to coach. And then I was told
Justin Field and Anthony Richardson, and it's like, I know
what it looks like when it's great, and what it
looks like when it's great's Lamar Jackson, who, because of
his work, ethic and his passion, has become the soul
of the city, the soul of the franchise. Lamar Jackson's unbelievable.
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He's the greatest all time running talent. And now Baltimore
finally got him a star back who healthy, really nice receivers,
Mark Andrews Titan. And this is what it looks like.
Think about Buffalo a week ago, we thought Buffalo was
the best team in the world. They gave up last night.
They quit. They just they had They couldn't stop him
nine yards of play in the first half. This is
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a guy that is twenty one and one against the
NFC and Chris collins Worth pointed this out. There's no
way to prepare for Lamar Jackson. Your best bet is
to be Cleveland, Cincinnati or the Steelers. You see him
a couple times a year and you kind of understand
the game speed and his ability. Those teams have a
much better shot. Not even Mahomes dominates a conference like
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Lamar Jackson does. He's twenty one and one against the NFC.
Because if you don't see him frequently or never, I mean,
he humiliated an excellent Detroit team. Last year, he humiliated
San Francisco. So no star quarterback in this sport, it's weird,
has more critics, But well, tell me you love the
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athletic quarterbacks. I like my quarterbacks to be athletic. But
I don't even know if you can use that term
for Lamar because when I watch him, if you gave
me one quarterback and one team to watch every week
half the time, it would be Lamar Jackson. And what
we try to do is and this is the way
it works. We've all had a boss like this. We
all know this is true. Everybody tries to define you
(03:21):
and jam you into a box, like Jamie Foxx goes
to Hollywood. He can dance, he can sing, he can act,
he can do game shows. He's funny.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
He can do anything.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Don't put him in a box. He can do anything.
Jackson has a passer, writing over one hundred in the
last three big games he's faced. Because y'all tell me
he doesn't win big games. Casey, Dallas and Buffalo. Two
of them were verty good defenses. He's completing sixty nine
percent of his throws. This is just the throwing part.
Sixtd's no picks, so you don't get any reckless. You
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get all the upside. What's the downside? Well, I can't
beat mahomes Well, last time I checked, nobody except Brady
at the end. Could I watched this kid? Yes, Derrick
Henry was sensational. Well, Dereck Henry's been sensational most of
his career. He's on the latter end of his career.
But part of what allows Dereck Henry or a JK.
Dobbins or a running back to flourish with Lamar Jackson
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in this offense is you're terrified. You can't cheat, you
can't lean into a good back because if Lamar's decides,
I'm just gonna keep it. He's faster than your corners
and your linebackers and your safeties. The kid's incredible. I
don't want to hear that he can't win big games.
In the last calendar year, he's destroyed the Niners and
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the Cowboys, and Buffalo and the Dolphins, and Houston twice,
and Seattle and Cincinnati. He's winning big games. He can't
beat Mahomes. The kid is absolutely remarkable. Passer rating over
one hundred, exhilarating. If you're gonna love the quarterbacks that move,
then you have to love the greatest athletic moving quarterback
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all the time. But he's never been given respect. We're
watching all these young quarterbacks throughout the course of NFL history.
They struggle. They come into the league. They can't quite
figure it out. They can't slow the game down. Lamar's
the only player that came in was faster than the league.
They were hoping he would slow down Week eleven, first
year comes in. Wow, next year MVP. As long as
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Lamar Jackson is healthy and quarterbacking the Baltimore Ravens, they
will always be in the Super Bowl bubble. I think
the kids absolutely phenomenal. Buffalo A week ago, looked like
the best team in the league, and they just waved
the white flag. They just surrendered, the hands up their
body language. There's nothing you can do, here's the coach after.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
We have weapons, you know, we're just we're blessed with weapons.
I mean when I'm just walked in here right now,
best weapon in football right there, and everybody rallies around.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Him and he distributes to everybody else.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
So that's where it starts.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Now.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
We know we are just getting better. We know it's possible,
we know what we're capable of, but we got a
long way to go.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I just I can't take my eyes off Lamar Jackson.
I'm always being sold on all these quarterbacks that run
around and move and might take you. No, I got one.
There's one, and that's what you should look like. And
it's the best I've ever seen. Matt and I listen.
Steve Young was the first time I saw a quarterback,
and I'm like, you can run like all the time
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and be great, and Steve Young was amazing. But this
is better than Steve Young. I know he didn't have
a trophy, but I mean, when you are he had
a move last night and only picked up a couple
of yards they got Collinsworth picked up on it where
he literally moonwalked. He went into a hole and put
it in reverse, shifted, went to the left, went back in.
(06:47):
What was that? What did I just watch? The kid
is remarkable and good for him last night. Okay, here's
what's not remarkable. This one actually shocked me. For rookie quarterback.
Usually for them to win, it has to be kind
of situational, right like they're at home, they've got a
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little extra prep time. I thought the Jets with Aaron
Rodgers with extra prep time against Denver and a rookie quarterback,
I thought this was a terrible spot for the Denver Broncos. Instead,
it looked like the Jets didn't practice. It's time to
recalibrate the Jets. They've played four games. They've been really
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good in one of them. The worst team in the league,
New England. That was on a short week. They didn't
play well against Tennessee. They got a Will Levis break,
they got housed by the Niners, beat by Denver. Like
this team, recalibrate it. Four games, one really good one.
They are not a well coached team. Thirteen penalties, Cadence
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issues with veteran offensive linemen Bryce Hall, Breeze Hall, excuse me,
where do you go? Oh? What happened to him?
Speaker 6 (08:02):
So?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Alan Lazard screwed up a drive with an idiotic penalty,
had to settle for a field golf. That was Aaron's guy.
We know Aaron seeks comfort, right, that was his guy,
and Natt Hackett that was his guy. Come on, this
offense is just not good enough. Now I will say
Patrick's er can put him on. Garrett Wilson slows him down.
We talked about that last week. You know there's about
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three stop corners in the league, lockdown guys. Denver's got one.
So that was gonna be a tough week for Garrett Wilson.
But it was the penalties Alan Lazard, veteran offensive lineman
Caen Cadence issues. This is not a well coached team
and this has been the year of the underdog. Believe me,
my Picks Friday, it's been the year of the underdog.
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But uh, that was a game. You can't lose. The
Jets with Aaron Rodgers, a veteran on line, had extra
time to prepare for a Denver team that decided let's
just still give us the only chance to win.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
And it was ugly.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
And I'm not blaming Aaron, but you know, Aaron likes
to be alone. He doesn't, you know, like to be
the only guy like and it felt like Aaron running
around and scrambling and making up time with his feet.
I'll give Aaron Rodgers credit. He wasn't very accurate. He
didn't play particularly well. I don't know how to describe
the cadence issues. That guy was running for his life.
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The two things we worried about with his team were
Aaron Rodgers' health. Sacked five times, fourteen hits. That is
not the recipe. That can't games like the Jets season
can't look like that. Aaron cannot take that beating. He
did a great job to be active, to move his feet.
He was scrambling. Give Aaron a ton of credit. But
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he wanted this offensive coordinator. This was his choice, and
he wanted Alan Lazard and they're not doing him favors.
So the two things we worried about were Aaron's health
that was not that didn't look good yesterday, and we
worried about prickly Aaron. Robert Sala in Green Bay. You
have more veteran coaches, less chaos. We worried about Sala
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and Aaron Rodgers, and after that awful performance at home
against a rookie quarterback who threw for sixty yards, here
was the coach and Aaron after.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
We got to figure it out whether or not we're
good enough to handle all them or ready to handle
all the kittens at Kitten's had not been an issue
all camp. Felt like our operation had been operating pretty good. Obviously,
today it took a major step back. The Cayden specifically,
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Robert said, that might be something you've asked have to
dial back a little bit. Is that something you think
could potentially help the situation.
Speaker 8 (10:50):
That's fun way to do it. The other ways hold
them accountable. I mean, we haven't had an issue. We've
had one false start, Morgan at one false start, I
believe until this so you know, it's been a weapon.
We use it every day in practice. You know, we
rarely have a full start, and they have I don't
know five today it seemed like four or five. Yeah,
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it's and it seems like it out there. I don't
know if we need to make mass.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Changes once again, feels like a little pettiness, little anger.
Hey listen, I'm not blaming Aaron. We know he likes
to be alone. He can't do it alone. I'm not
blaming Aaron. And I do not think this is a
well run team. But last week we were talking, Oh
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my god, ticker tape gets like, No, this is still
a poorly coached, poorly owned team with an offensive line
that's in flux. That's what it looked like, and a
team you can't trust in big spots. And by the way,
I'll tell you why that game was so important, and
everybody in New York knows why it's important. The next
three games are the hottest team in the league, the Vikings,
the Bills are in a bad mood now, and the Steelers,
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who can't score but have a great defense. Good luck
with your O line against that Steelers defense. So we
looked at this schedule and we thought, man, you talk
about three layups. You barely get by Tennessee, you lose
to Denver. Now comes some really interesting matchups, because the
end of the season can get real dicey. But these
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were supposed to be layups. Four games, one good performance,
and everybody's looked good. I mean, the Niners yesterday? What
was that against the Patriots? That was that a scrimmage?
It didn't even look like a game. It was more
of a scrimmage. So not good, Jay mach I know
you're freaking out. Now. The good news is New York
fans mostly don't have to watch it in person. Against Minnesota,
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it's over in London. So you know, a thirty four
to ten loss, you know, you could just you know,
mow the lawn and you don't have to go to
the game or anything.
Speaker 9 (12:50):
All right, let's settle down a little bit. First of all,
no freaking out here. It was bad loss.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
I think if there's anything to freak out about, it's
Rogers versus Sola, and they're not on the same page.
Speaker 9 (13:02):
And this dates back to the whole Egypt thing.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Remember where Sala opened his mouth as something silly and
Rogers pushed back.
Speaker 9 (13:08):
And I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
I'd like to get those two in a room in
front of the media and hash this out, because otherwise
this could fester all season to ruin it for the Jet.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
We talked about this last week. It's so funny. So
it's really fun when Aaron's in a good mood off
a win. He looks good, he's happy, but we said Friday,
he gets dark very quickly. Aaron gets dark very quickly.
Look at him on that podium. If I couldn't hear
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the sound, he looks pissed. Aaron's interesting, like a lot
of quarterback Tom Brady, if you turn the sound down,
win or lose. I never knew Peyton Manning didn't know.
Like there's a lot of quarterbacks. Lamar's facial expression, his
body language. Aaron literally looks like a different person when
he's in a bad mood. So that's what I see.
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What do you think it's like in real time? In person?
So like Aaron step to that podium yesterday, you don't
even have to just look at the body language, look
at the face. And he's always done this. Aaron is
split personality. When things are good, he's charismatic, he's funny,
he's a great guest, he's amazing. That dude goes dark
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really fast, and he tends to passive aggressively turn on people.
That's what that felt like to me. That felt like, oh,
is is that what the coach says? Or you could
hold people accountable?
Speaker 9 (14:33):
Well, listen.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
They had thirteen penalties I read run reports that ten
of them were against the offense.
Speaker 9 (14:38):
So to defend Salah, Yeah, a lot of screw ups.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
I mean at home. I know it was in the rain,
but didn't We played in the ring too yesterday? Right,
just just being okay.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Bow Nicks threw for sixty yards on the road and
beat Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
That can't happen.
Speaker 9 (14:52):
I'm on a Minnesota.
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Speaker 1 (15:02):
All right, we do it every Monday. Colin Wright, Colin wrong.
Here we go where Colin was right? Well, I predicted
before the season Kingsbury would be a home run higher
and Washington would make the playoffs. I said they're going
to be the surprise team. They'll make the wild card. Yeah,
well they may win the division. Kingsbury's been a perfect fit.
Washington has more listen to this, more scoring drives than incompletions.
(15:24):
I don't even know how to explain that. That's ridiculous.
That's video game. That's ridiculous. Through four games, Jayden Daniels
has the highest completion percentage in league history. Eighty two
percent of his passes. I was told before the season,
get on the Washington bandwagon. Early new owner GM coach
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Kingsbury's going to be a home run. We were right
on that.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
One where Colin was raw.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, my optimism was Sean McVeigh and Matt Stafford fixing
all the problems for the Rams health. It's my optimism's dying.
Pooka no Cooper, they have no playmakers. Everything has to
be a long drive. Matt Stafford not super mobile moves okay,
as trying to save the team and he can't. They's
don't have any players offensive line. The backups are backups
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to backups. McVeigh is great, but there are limitations when
you get cluster injuries to two key areas for an
offensive coach. And this is just not going to be
the Rams year where Colin was right day one on
Nick Sirianni, I said, I was told he was not
a head coach. He was closer to a position coach.
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They are not only three to eight in their last
eleven games, folks, They're the only NFL team without a
point in the first quarter. And listen, I know there's injuries.
This is the NFL everybody's heard from his opening press
conference on I think there have been times when he's
been a bit juvenile to be a head coach. I
didn't have a certain gravtas and Philadelphia is a well
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run organization, but they are very impatient, and I don't
know if he lasts the.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Seas where Colin was raw.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
You know, I defended the Doug Peterson hire in Jacksonville
post Urban Meyer. I thought he had the right temperament.
Doug's not gonna yell and bark. It's gonna work. But
this thing's unraveling. They've lost five straight. Trevor Lawrence has
lost nine straight. It's an organization and this was a
little bit Doug's reputation. They're a little loose, they're not
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great on the details. And I've supported Doug from day one,
and I'm not sure who's exactly to blame, but there
are fissures now and they're going public. Here's Doug after
the loss. Coaches, we can't make the we can't go
out there and make the plays right.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
It's a two way street.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
So you know, you guys can sit here and point
the finger.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
All you want, and that's fine, point right at me.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I can take it.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
If it's not working, it's not in rhythm, whether it's
your plays or not.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
You Hazel play college.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah, sure, okay, I'll take it into consideration when it
goes public. When the couple's fighting in public, don't know
what the drive homes like. It's trouble in Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Anthony Richardson. He's fun to watch, but you got it
complete stuff from the pocket. It's hard. I get it.
But yesterday he got hurt again. He's reckless. You know,
I understand loving athletic quarterbacks. Nobody's a bigger fan of Lamar.
I've been defending him for four or five years. But
the Anthony Richardson thing. If Shane Steichen can't fix it,
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and he's one of the really smart guys in this league,
if he can't fix it, I don't think you can
fix it. Yesterday again, Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Got hurt where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Don't buy the Browns ownership. I love the coach, I
love the general manager, but I think Deshaun Watson was desperate. Yesterday,
passer rating at eighty five, Raiders were missing Devonte Adams
and Max Crosby. Their two best players. That's as vulnerable
as the Raiders can be. Raiders are still rebuilding and
Cleveland couldn't get it done. So I've said before, just
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I look at organization's top down, I don't buy Cleveland.
I think Stefanski and Andrew Berry you're really sharp guys,
but I think their hands are tied and this contract
is awful.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Where Colin was raw, boy.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Was I wrong on Colorado three weeks ago? Two weeks ago,
I said, give me a break. You're the fake idea
of college football. You're trying to tell us you're something
you're not. Uh yeah, They're now four and one and
this weekend. Now we know Travis Hunter is the best
player in college football and Shaduur Sanders has talent. But
to beat forty eight to twenty one over UCF and
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some of the plays in this game, this is not
supposed to be a great draft. What if Colorado gets
Travis Hunter taking one, shaduor Sanders taking number two? You
think it's crazy, But when you watch these guys play,
you talk about jump through the television. They're insane talents.
Dion now is beating ranked teams. They're four and one.
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I was way wrong where Colin was, But I thought
Bama would beat Georgia. Carson Beck good luck. But after
watching saduor Sanders are not going number one. And I'll
say this, Kaitlin de Boord did this at Washington. He
got the Huskies do a national championship without a lot
of NFL bodies. His ability too. He's not a great recruiter,
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but he may develop offensive players as well as anybody
I have ever seen. This game was a blowout early,
then Georgia pulls back. But I said when he got
the job, it would be the greatest coaching handoff in
the history of college football. I said, he's basically Saban
on the offensive side of the ball, and to take
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that lead and dominate Georgia that had won forty two
straight games. Go back and look at what he inherited
at Washington and what it became. The guy is a marvel.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Where Colin was right, I.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Said, be careful about telling me the Saints are going
to rule the league. You got a new coordinator, But
I think Derek Carr's more middle of the pact than
elite Dennis Allen last year questions about the coaching, I
think Atlanta is going to win this division. I think
Tampa has been a great story, but this offense to
me in the first couple of weeks was not sustainable.
(21:12):
Now maybe Washington Commander's offense isn't sustainable either, But Jayden
Daniels just looks different than everybody else in the league.
Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
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Speaker 1 (21:29):
Fox Sports NFL reporter Peter Schreger from best selling books
to podcasts. He's in LA from time to time for
doing that Sunday show, and he says, hey, I'll stop by.
Busy guy, young family crushing it all right, So I
said earlier, you and I both are fans of Cliff Kingsbury,
and you know this shrigs very well that some guys,
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you know, Cliff is not a barker the boy. When
it comes to play Colin play designing quarterback development, it
kind of feels I don't know how to explain, but
I'm watching, but everything is working with the Commanders, not
a flup. This is what is.
Speaker 10 (22:09):
They've punted one time since Week one. They've had twenty
three scoring drives this season. They've only had nineteen eight
complete passes. They have a rookie quarterback who's completing eighty
two percent of his pass attempts, and he's not throwing
like two passes a game. He's throwing thirty passes a game.
And I'll give you a little journey on Cliff. I've
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spent a lot of time with Cliff, especially the last
two years since he got fired by the Cardinals.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
And remember the Cardinals are paying the bulk.
Speaker 10 (22:36):
Of his salary still, so they pay him and every money,
every dollar he takes from Washington is offset from his
Arizona contract. But last year I'd fly out for Fox
on Saturdays and we would have the Fox kickoff show
on Sundays. A lot of times I would get dinner
with Cliff on Saturday nights in Los Angeles because USC
would be done and we'd.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Link up whatever.
Speaker 10 (22:56):
And his situation at USC was so unique in a
disgusting nil world and with everyone transferring, and Cliff's deal
with Lincoln Riley, who they know from Texas Tech days,
was you deal with the head coach, and you deal
with the recruiting duties, and you deal with the nil duties.
All I want to do is work with Caleb Williams
and draw up plays and work with that offense and
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get in the lab.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
That's Cliff's happy place.
Speaker 10 (23:21):
And he didn't go into a single mother's living room
and beg him, don't go to Penn State.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
We're gonna pay you this amount of money. You don't
have to go with any of that.
Speaker 10 (23:28):
He just focused on a playbook and built this playbook,
and Caleb was wonderful. You go into this offseason, the
sliding doors factor here is insane. So I think if
I was to call it early on in the process,
Washington's number one guy was Ben Johnson, the offensive.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Court andator to be their head coach. Ben Johnson pulls
his name out, says, I'm going back to Detroit.
Speaker 10 (23:47):
God bless him. He goes back to Detroit. They pivot,
they go to dan Quinn. Cliff Kingsbury interviewed with the
Chicago Bears for I think six hours out here in Marina.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Del Rey Yeap told about that, Yep, all.
Speaker 10 (23:58):
Right, interview for the offense coordinator job. He's like, I
don't know ebraflus, but I love Caleb and we'll see
what happens. The interview goes goes fairly well. Cliff thinks
he's got a shot. They never hear us back from him.
They basically tell him we're moving in another direction. They
hire Eberflus interviews with Philly. He's like, Jalen Hurts, I
would love to use this new playbook with Jalen Hurts.
Awesome quarter didn't get offered the job Raiders. They agree
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to a job, but then they start talking about the
numbers of the contract in the years in the contract
that falls apart. That's three NFL teams that had a
chance to bring in Cliff with young quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
And it and all liked him.
Speaker 10 (24:30):
And then Dan Quinn the day the Raiders thing falls apart,
is like, dude, should we roll this back?
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Should we do this? Should we make this happen?
Speaker 10 (24:36):
And Cliff got in the lab and was like, all right,
let's look at these quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Caleb's likely off the board.
Speaker 10 (24:42):
Remember the Bears didn't even meet with Jayden Daniels, didn't
even care to meet him. They said we're taking him
no matter what. And then Cliff started building an offense
that day built around Jayden and Daniels's skill set.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Before even meeting him. So they've been building this offense.
Speaker 10 (24:55):
Jaden gets in there and he comes in with fifty
five starts at the college level, Arizona State, then LSU.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
He has seen it all.
Speaker 10 (25:02):
Do you know who his number one wide receiver was
his freshman year at Arizona State, Brandon Aiyuk, who's like
a five year veteran, so he has played for a
long time. He came ready and it's just a perfect
match of new owner, new GM, new head coach, new
offensive coordinator, and then this amazing gift that fell in
their laps at number two.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
And he's been outstanding.
Speaker 10 (25:20):
And it's the first time in my professional career and
I've been doing this since probably early two thousands that
there's genuine excitement around the Washington football team, Washington Commanders
in this case, not the Redskins.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
And it's not with a yeah, but it's like no,
there's everything is right.
Speaker 10 (25:36):
The crew that brought around him, they didn't just go
and hired and signed some diva wide receiver, like we
like McLaurin. We're gonna bring in Bobby Wagner, maybe the
best defensive leader. We're gonna bring in Zach Ertz maybe
the best offensive leader in the league.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
Oh, and then we're also gonna have like Austin Eckler and.
Speaker 10 (25:49):
Marcus Mariota and Frankie lou What if all these guys
have in common. They're great teammates and great dudes. And
then you drop in Jaden Daniels and it's all working.
So we're four weeks in, but I think there's not
enough that can be said about all the different paths
it took to get here, and it just has worked
out beautifully.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Great story, good storytelling there. I love that Kansas City
is so strange, so all their games look the exact same.
They've won ten straight, nine close. I said earlier they
should teach crisis management. Somebody's always hurt, somebody's traded their
offensive line, They've rebuilt it twice. This isn't what dynasties
look like. They look like Kevin Durant and Steph Yes.
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Alabama was saban. Every game's close. It's getting to be
New england Ish where you're like, I'm not even sure
they have as many good players as the Chargers. I
always felt that with New England. I'm like, Ravens have
better players. What do we make you were there yesterday.
Now it's for she Rice. Cross your fingers, because he'd
really become a dude. What do you make of what
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you're watching?
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Well, I would be shocked if for she Rice is
available this rest of the season. He's done.
Speaker 10 (26:55):
I think that was a real you know, Andrey, I
don't want to play doctor on TV before their official
results are in, But that's an ACA and he'll be out.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
So now you lose.
Speaker 10 (27:02):
Hollywood Brown, who they never even got a chance to use,
who's supposed to be their number one wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
He lose Rashi Rice, who's the number two.
Speaker 10 (27:07):
You lose Isaiah Pacheco, who's their number one running back.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
And you look at it and you say, okay.
Speaker 10 (27:13):
They find a way and like yesterday at the game,
Kareem Hunt wearing twenty nine, you know, because twenty seven
is now worn by Chamari Connor and it's Kareem Hunt
who hasn't played there for five years. But he comes
back and he's gobbling up yards. They find a way.
Samaj Pyron gets let go by the Broncos. The Chiefs
bring him on and they're like, all right, we'll make
a way to work the hidden secret with this. Chiefs
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team A. Their defense is.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Outstanding and they're really really good.
Speaker 10 (27:38):
They were sending you know, zero blitz the entire game
and giving Justin Herbert Hell yesterday.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
And the other secret is they replenish in the draft.
Speaker 10 (27:46):
So it's like Lugarius Sneed was a great Kansas City
chief signed for a ton of money with the Titans.
We have replacements ready because they've been training him for
two years. So Jalen Watson can step up, or Josh
Williams or Chamarry Connor. This is a real test, though, Colin,
I don't know if they have the horses.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Like losing all these guys.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Now Worthy does give him an over the top pop,
Yes he does.
Speaker 10 (28:07):
Yes, but that is asking a lot out of an
over the pop, Like now you're the number one wide receiver.
He's guy hasn't been and that's the big ask. And
then Kelsey looks like he's a slapt step slower. Whether
or not that's going to cause the ire of football
fans everywhere. I think it's fair to say he's not
the same guy he was three years ago. So then
you start looking and Brett Veach has never been scared
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to pick up the phone. He's a general manager, and
I think he's the best in the game. And you know,
a couple of years ago they thought they needed an
next or something.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
The Giants traded Kadarius Tony sixty cents on the dollar.
Speaker 10 (28:38):
He plays a big role in that Super Bowl went over.
There doesn't work out, it.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Works. So some names that you'll hear over the next
couple of days, Yeah, let's go through them.
Speaker 10 (28:49):
I think you look at Amari Cooper making a lot
of money in Cleveland, like, do you not call up
Andrew Berry and say what what would you be willing
to look at? I look at DeAndre Hopkins in Tennessee.
I say that team's zero to three tonight. They're playing
money night football makes a ton of money. But is
there something we can work out contract wise? I said this,
and I got a lot of pushback. Doesn't come from
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the Rams guys. But I would call on Cooper Cup,
I would see I would call every team. I would
call thirty one teams, and I would say, all right,
your team is not going to the super Bowl this year.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
You're playing this amount of money.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Rams could take picks.
Speaker 10 (29:23):
They want a quarterback that gosh, look, I love Cup
and Stafford loves Cup. And I know McVeigh loves Cups,
so they're probably not going to trade Cup. But it
doesn't hurt to call and see, Okay, you're one in
three and Pooka's out for the next four weeks and
cups cut. So what would it take to get this
future Hall of Famer? Because I would assume every team
picks up the phone and then you could say, no,
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we're good. Yeah, you go down the list on a
lot of these names, and I think those Jaguars, veteran
ro chieters like Christian Kirk, like those types like.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yep pro total pro, all these guys.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Can help good the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I'm not a big swing like Devonte Adam.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
I just don't think the Raiders would trade them in
the division.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Okay, okay, fair, Yep, they know that's.
Speaker 10 (29:59):
The one of those like any other team, Yes, and
I think that's that's going that. But I think you
would want to look to guys who are outside the
division and they don't have much money, like they only
have like five million dollars in the salary cap. But
if we've learned anything about the NFL in recent years,
there's wiggle room. There's way to move money and if
there's veteran players who are making a lot, they can
restructure their contracts to make those deals happen. So curious
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to see if Veitch just sits tight and says, hey,
we've gotten three rougher times before.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Though, or if they get aggressive. Let me let me
say this Travis Kelsey's aging. I do think they're in
this tiny window where, like, you know, you'd say to yourself, well,
you've got two trophies. But you know what, like as
New England proved they couldn't win with Randy Moss, like
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this drought. It's I mean, the Ravens are young and
going nowhere. San Francisco, Detroit know their windows are wide open.
So I could see Kansas City saying we got two
in a row. We've got moment you read is now
high sixties.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
Why not?
Speaker 10 (31:02):
And also Colin, since the invent of the Super Bowl
in nineteen sixty seven, no franchise that are won three
in a row. If ever there was a team that
you'd say, Okay, you guys traded too much, but you'd
give them.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
The benefit of the doubt. It's the Chiefs chasing history.
Speaker 10 (31:16):
You're going three straight, so they're looking to go I
call it the Chief's peed, but it's the three peat.
I just want pat Riley to assume me they're looking
to win three in a row here. So if they
gave up multiple first round picks and they mortgaged the
future to bring in a star number one wide receiver
or to bring in a stud number two wide receiver
a Keenan Allen, I'm just sure that the guys that
(31:36):
are veterans that might not necessarily have a long runway
with their current teams. I don't think any Chief stand
would spite them, like now is the time.
Speaker 9 (31:43):
We're going for history.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
We're trying to be the greatest team of all time.
Speaker 10 (31:46):
Yeah, okay, so for three years from now, we don't
have a backup left tackle, Okay, let's go for it.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah all right. So I thought this was a terrible
spot for the Broncos YEP, and a great spot for
the Jets. Star quarter old offensive line getting extra time
to prepare at home, Like this team is old lines,
a little older, got a few extra days. Here comes
rookie bow nicky and they're over under was five wins.
(32:13):
I think they're better than that. And I'm looking up
in thirteen penalties for the Jets. But I will say this,
the Broncos game plan was like seven in the box
beat us. You know Sean Payton very well. I think
that flight back to Denver was one of the best
flights he's had.
Speaker 10 (32:33):
It's been so long since they've been back to Denver.
They won in Tampa, which was a huge win. And
what Sean did in that game, and I spoke to
him afterwards, was they won the coin toss.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
You never see teams receive anymore.
Speaker 10 (32:45):
He said, let's receive, and let's give bo Nicks the
confidence in this Tampa game.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
First drive, We're giving you the ball. Gole right down
the field, march down the field. Score they did.
Speaker 10 (32:52):
All right, you finally have your first big scoring drive
and they blew out the Buccaneers. Instead of flying back
to Denver, they stayed on the East Coast. They stayed
at the Green Yeah, which is this resor West Virginia. Well,
they didn't realize Hurricane Helen was coming, so they run
their entire Friday walk through in an indoor bubble that
is not a football field, is a hard court tennis court.
(33:12):
So they're running their offense on a tennis court with
you know, fifty three guys in running sneakers doing their
entire game plan. So Sean is just, you know, like, okay,
we're but they were galvanized by this. They were all
in this together and now they go into this horrendous weather.
Friday night, I saw a concert at Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
I'm not kidding. A new Peyton was coming in and
he used to work with us at Fox. Jelly Roll.
I don't know if you're fine, jelly Roll should be
doing the halftime show. That's my take. Anyway, they call
up I call up Peyton.
Speaker 10 (33:41):
I'm like, is there any chance I know it's the season,
and he was like, shregs, are you out of your mind?
He's like, I am knee deep in Jets footage and
Vance Joseph is trying to stop this thing. Like in
my foolish head, I'm like, oh, maybe he can go
out and go see a concert on a Friday night.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Like that's not where his head was.
Speaker 10 (33:57):
Their head was, let's go take care of the Jets
and let's figure out a game plan. Yes, all the penalties,
but Vance Joseph's defense was outstanding. That was and they
didn't ask bon Nicks to throw thirty five times in
the rain. They didn't ask bon Nicks to do anything
he can. He threw the touchdown past to Courtland, something
that was enough. Jelly Roll was amazing, and so was
Post Malone, who stepped up and did a song as well.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah, yeah, finally, I uh one of my only good picks.
I like the Ravens last night. I thought they presented
an offense that Buffalo hadn't seen yet. And I also
think we all tend to watch Monday night football and
fall in love with teams. It's just hard to win.
It's hard to win a standalone game on the road
at night when you're facing Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson.
But I will tell you about Lamar Jackson. For years
(34:40):
and years, we were always like decent backs, Mark Andrews.
Decent back Mark Andrews. Now maybe the fourth option. They
have real weapons, Like they may be the fastest team
on the perimeter in the league. If Kansas City's defense
is the fastest, it may the fastest offense may be Baltimore.
I don't know. I know we worried. Jay mckin I
talked about O line. Are they better than last year?
Speaker 10 (35:03):
But etually they might be in fact, I was very
concerned about the O line. They lost three veteran starters
and Morgan Moses and Fallele and Zeitler, and it was like,
all right or not?
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Not Filele, I'm sorry.
Speaker 10 (35:15):
So they lost Morgan Moses, they lost Zeitler, and then
they lost John Simpson to the Jets, and they bring
in three other guys.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
To start and you're like, I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 10 (35:23):
And then that first week against the Chiefs, it was like, yep,
their offensive line is issues, and oh a thirty two
year old defensive coordinator Zach Orr is not Mike McDonald
who's now the head coaches, and it's already week four,
and it's like they might be better. They might be
better on the offensive line.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
They're younger.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I mean last night there were huge holes, huge like
all we respect their defensive personal coaching.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
And guess what for as good as Likely and Andrews
are catching the ball, they block their asses off. And
then you got pat riccardon there just polling guys.
Speaker 10 (35:51):
So Henry was a very interesting signing around the league
of people raise their eyebrows when are yeah Derek Henry,
thirty year old Derek Henry enjoyed that. We've seen Emtt
Smith and a Cardinal's jersey. We've seen Marshawn Lynch in
a Raiders jersey. You've seen Adrian Peterson in a Saints jersey.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Enjoy that.
Speaker 10 (36:06):
Derrick Henry looks looks fast, he looks stronger, he looks thinner,
he looks happier.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
He's got four hundred and eighty yards through four games.
Speaker 10 (36:16):
It's the most I think anyone's had through four games
since Stephen Davis, who did it with the Panthers in
like three And they are suddenly jelling and it only
took a couple of weeks to get all these new
guys involved. And yeah, a thirty two year old defensive coordinator,
I've never seen Josh Allen have fits like that last night.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
So we had forty two yards passing in the first half.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
That was it. They came in averaging thirty seven points
a game.
Speaker 10 (36:38):
So I know a lot of people are out here
this morning and they're saying, Okay, you know, Ravens, that's
the Super Bowl team of the best team of football.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
I say, slow down, like, let's see.
Speaker 10 (36:46):
But that version of the Ravens that we saw last night,
no one's beating them. But that version is not what's
shown up in January the past few years. And I'm
fully aware that the Ravens have a tendency of in
big games.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
In the playoffs.
Speaker 10 (36:59):
Yeah, into turtles and they go into their shell and
they run the ball eight times like last year.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
You know it's funny though, and we do this all
the time. I mean, Dan Marino, Charles Barkley, Karl Malone.
Great players don't always win titles. And sometimes it's because,
like Phil Mickelson, if there's no Tiger Woods, he's got
seven more made outs, and it's and let me defend Lamar.
So in the last calendar year, they have crushed the Bills,
the Bengals, the Seahawks, the Texans twice, the forty nine Ers,
(37:26):
the Lions. He is a great big game player, those
damn Chiefs. I mean, it kind of feels. And I
also did not like the game plan at all in
that AFC. I didn't get it. But I'll tell you this,
I don't know if there's a quarterback, maybe Mahomes, but
I always feel like Andy Reid's part of their soul.
(37:47):
Lamar's the soul, Like you can just tell the way
Harbaugh talks, It's like the city loves him. It's just
a really cool relationship.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
He's the man.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
He is it.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
He's the man.
Speaker 10 (37:57):
And if it wasn't Mahomes, he'd be the face of
the league and a million in ways because he's everything
that's right about the league.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Org Gothic passion, soft spoken, not look at me, look
at me.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Gros This idea that he can't pass in the pocket.
Dude is a good pocket passer.
Speaker 10 (38:10):
He's a two time MVP. The guy's amazing. Yeah, we
need to see it when it matters in January.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
What one quick story, So listen, I love Donald, and
then Carolina and the Jets have ruined a lot of guys,
and then he goes to San Francisco and and you
know obviously Kevin, O'Connell, Lafleur, McVeigh, Kyle, they all talk.
And it is interesting because I always thought Donald could
(38:35):
be a bit reckless. He had a Carson Wentz DNA,
But I did think he was good guy, tough, athletic move. Well,
the stories you hear now is the San Francisco experience,
yep changed him? What do we what do we know
about that?
Speaker 5 (38:51):
And sit back learn from maybe the.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Kevin O'Connell call Kyle and just there.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Was a there was a rat race to get I mean,
this is the I always say this.
Speaker 10 (38:59):
There is no play in football that has a bigger
delta between what coaches and NFL people think of him
than what most in the media.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
I know you've been a fan.
Speaker 10 (39:10):
Most of the media think he's a scrub and a bus.
Coaches still believe in Sam Donald. And I will tell
you that Washington was very hot for Sam Donald. Adam Peters,
who's the great GM of the Commanders, came from San Francisco,
knew what he had and then it was kind of
a bidding war and he chose Minnesota, and thank god
he did because he has an opportunity to play and
he's getting to revitalize his career.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
The league knows.
Speaker 10 (39:30):
He's he's younger than Joe Burrow. I think he's I
think he's the same age, if not a month older
than Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah, he and Lamar Yeah.
Speaker 10 (39:38):
And this is you're talking about a guy that is
twenty six years old and has the future ahead of
him and just needed the right support system.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
In San Francisco. He was able to press, pause, take.
Speaker 10 (39:49):
A foot off the pedal, sit back, learn, have a
second to just breathe. And then he gets put in
this amazing situation with an offensive head coach and Kevin
O'Connell who has just nurtured and encouraged him.
Speaker 5 (39:59):
I'll tell you this.
Speaker 10 (39:59):
They after JJ McCarthy, but to a man, anyone I
spoke to in Minnesota was like, that's Sam Donald's team
this year to start, and we'll see what happens. But
it was never like a quarterback competition in Minnesota. Donald
one year, ten million dollars real money. It's not like
he signed for two million dollars a year, real money,
and they were committed to giving him the first opportunity,
the first crack at it, and he's run away with it.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
He's been unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Sugar, you bring the best story. Let's go a lot
of pressure on you to J mack. J mack tomorrow.
Can you give me a big story like that? Can
you want one big story? How about just won this week?
Speaker 6 (40:31):
I thought I was giving out winners like Canby last week,
and now you're putting pressure on me stories.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
I look for winners from you. I like from story. Okay,
you do give winners. It's great to see anybody.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Oh, that's awesome. Thank you.
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