October 24, 2024 • 32 mins
Colin discusses the "distractions" the Cowboys are constantly facing because of Jerry Jones' emphasis on raising the brand of the team instead of winning. He ranks the top 10 players in the upcoming World Series between the Yankees and the Dodgers. Plus, Super Bowl champion Drew Brees joins the show to explain what it's like to adjust to a new receiver after the various big moves prior to the NFL trade deadline
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go to Thursday Live Ben Los Angeles. It's
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Thanks for Megan hous part of your day. One hour
from now, Greg Cosell, if you bet football, fantasy football,
want to get smarter at football? Greg Cosel, Tonight Rams,
host of Vikings, I like Minnesota, get into that in
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a second. Drew Brees also stops by today. So I
have a believer Jmac that there are certain personalities that
are better fits with person you know and jobs.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
If you want to be.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
In sales, for instance, you're probably being better as an extrovert,
not an introvert. If you want to be in finance
or accounting, you've got to be really into details. You
can't be kind of loose on that. So there are
certain personalities that matter. Can you agree with that?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
All right, So I think the personality to be a
great NFL GM and to be a great visionary and
marketer are two different personalities. And this morning I'm reading
a piece on ESPN about Jerry Jones and his practice facility,
which is viewed as the best in the league, but
it is also the practice facility. This story is incredible
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that gives fans the most access, and former Cowboys have
complained about it, saying they felt like fans were staring
at them as they worked out, poking, prodding. They felt
like one said it was a zoo. And this article
is fantastic, it says Jerry Jones is quoted it's old.
When those players go through our complex out there and
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the fans see them, it's gold. But set a player,
you get randos, random people constantly walking through the facility
and I'm trying to get a late night workout or
a hot tub in. It's a constant conflict in this
article of what Jerry sees is great and what players
see is annoying. Jerry thinks the fans' presence inside the
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facility inspires the players and staff when clearly the article
signifies it annoys them. Now, is this the reason the
Cowboys this year are struggling? Is this the reason the
Cowboys are struggling? Of course not, but it does show
you this constant showmanship, this fascination with his players being
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spectacles and touchable with the fans, and the radio hits,
and the constant need revenue from over everything. It wears
on people. Are the Cowboys just a Bubba Gump shrimp
franchise with tackling? Is it all about merchandise and sales?
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I was thinking about this the GM thing. First of all,
Jerry's owner GM. The GM thing is a full time job.
The guys I know that are gms don't sleep much. Secondly,
Jerry sees Dallas revenue and ratings and think it's working,
but it's not really for the GM. The mind, the
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ultimate success is Brett Veach finding Isaiah Pacheco in the
seventh round, not having to really pay much yet getting
massive production for four years. Every GM I know value
above everything, seeking value, film junkies, grinders not impulsive, But
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to be Jerry in a billionaire it takes a visionary
and marketer and promoter and hey, little light on the details,
but hey, we'll make it work. And they're in conflict.
What takes a great GM the ones. I know these
guys don't want They don't care about team revenue. They
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care about finding players at a value proposition. Jerry, he
likes players, especially if he's the one that wanted to
draft it. Remember they had to talk Jerry out of
Johnny Manziel. Johnny Manziel didn't didn't have what it takes.
But Jerry didn't see the flaws. He saw the potential
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Texas kid, Johnny football. He had to be talked out
of that by Stephen Jones. And my point is your
CEO can't be your CFO, right the person seeking diamonds
in the rough probably shouldn't be the promoter to the
mass market on diamonds. And that's where I think the
conflict is. And over the course of time, the Cowboys
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have been incredibly insular. I mean, no GM in the league.
If you read this story thought that's what I want.
And yet I bet you havelf. The owners are like brilliant.
If you pay seventy dollars, not just forty on the
daily tour, you get a pin in an autograph from Jerry,
and it's just I get it if it was, you know,
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a T shirt shop in Maui. But it just comes
across as Jerry, you can't be a GM and an owner.
You're really good at the owner part, you're really bad
at the GM thing. Well, I haven't missed on that
many draft picks. It's not just that you're not creating
an environment where you're keeping the thing the thing, so
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they're profitable, but they're not productive in January and February.
There are certain personalities that really fit certain jobs and
Jerry this year. And when Jerry gets unhappy, he does
another thing GMS would not like. He pokes his coach,
he goes on radio, he used surps leadership, he takes
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shots at them. No GM would sign up for that.
But the visionary and the marketer sees big picture. I'm
getting them all riled up. Albert Breer discussed that yesterday.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I think he's felt the whole like, if you look
at the way he's operated since the end of last season,
it's been constantly turning the heat up. The all In comment,
even though they didn't really spend in the offseason sending
Mike McCarthy into a contract year, which is very unconventional,
making Dak Prescott and Ceedee Lamb wait until the summer
to get their deals done, not paying Micaeh Parsons now.
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And I think he felt like, I've got to turn
the heat up on everyone in the organization because everybody
here has gotten too comfortable. Now he sees it in
the middle of the season, it still doesn't look good.
So what's he going to do. He's not turning the
heat down, He's turning the heat back up.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
All right.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I swear to you. I swear to you. I'm gonna
stop talking about Aaron Rodgers as soon as I possibly can.
But this was interesting. One of the things I sort
of laugh at on the Internet is seeing bitcoin hustler
lecture people like Warren Buffett on how finances work. Yeah,
I'm gonna go with the latter, not bitcoin hustler, who
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also told me NFTs were a tree that would grow
to the sky. I'm gonna go with Warren Buffett. In
the stock market, which, lucky enough, my dad was in it.
I've been in it since nineteen eighty eight. I've done fine.
You keep hustling. But I saw this story and It's
just it. It's crazy. And I like Davonte Adams and
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I think he can help Jets. I don't think he's
the difference between not making the playoffs and playoffs. They've
already got a good receiver. But I like him as
a player. He seems like a nice guy. Defended him before.
Apparently he gave the postgame speech after the last loss.
First game, been in the building for days, he gave
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a speech. Boy does that scream we have a lack
of leadership structure. And what's funny is the Jets and
Aaron Rodgers thought he crushed it. Can you imagine this
the Kansas City chiefs Andy Reid, Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, Chris Jones.
Guy shows up in the facility four days, tough loss,
and the new guy's like, hey, I got some things
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to say here, Yeah, it want it? You be in
the building more than like four days. Can you imagine
Brady Belichick, Edelman, Gronk tough loss, new guy in the building.
I've got some thoughts on this. And Devonte Adams comes
from the Raiders the most maybe one of the only
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franchises more dysfunctional than the Jets. I mean, I don't
know there. If you look at the successful teams in
the NFL, in any sport, there's a rank and file.
Like in the NFL, San Francisco, Baltimore, can the city
you know what it is, Green Bay, there's a rank
and file. The coach speaks and then the quarterback, the
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franchise star quarterback takes that message to the troops. With
the Jets, new guy in the buildings got something to say.
And I like Davante, but the Raiders are even more
dysfunctional than the Jets. And Davante was at a functional
place and left it for the Raiders, so I questioned
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his judgment. And I like him, But this bitcoin guy
can't tell real estate guru how it works. It doesn't
work that way. And to me, I mean, is Hassan
Reddick giving a pregame speech in two weeks, Let's put
fireman ad on the headset make some plays. I mean,
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what are we doing here? There's that's not how it works.
I mean, you've already fired your coach, You've already now
in your second offensive coordinator. And the court back who
uses big words a lot, is like, I'm not really comfortable.
Taken away to Vante what he's been in the building
five days? What do we from a losing franchise?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
And I like him?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
But Aaron's all smiles and using big words as they
prepare for their next game.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Every year presents its own challenges, and thankfully we're not
to the de new mab of this season. You know,
there's still a lot of time left. I think it's
important that we all just stay as sanguine as possible.
You know this, it's a long season. There's a lot
of ups and downs.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Sanguine as possible? Is he manifesting that and his vision board? Okay, yes, yeah,
it's just it's I can like a player, but boy,
do you lack management structure and leadership structure? If the
new guy in the workplace, where do you work in
your law firm? I mean on our show, the interns don't.
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They don't get a big say, even if they're talented,
like like you got to kind of be in a
room for a while, right, Well, he's not. He's an
excellent player from a totally dysfunctional franchise and left a
great franchise to go to the Raiders. And the last
two franchises now Raiders Jets are highly dysfunctional, and isn't
it kind of Aaron's locker room. The whole thing's weird.
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The whole thing's weird to me. Teams that are losing
in this league, Dallas right now and the Jets that
are losing for a reason. It's not coincidence. It's not
bad bad luck. J Mack. Maybe they'll call you to
have a big pregame has onon. Reddick's going to be
firing this team up in two weeks. Okay, how do
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you spell daniu?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Mal?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
I love Rogers, man, This guy is real.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
He's a real piece of work.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
By the way, do you think you could ever hang
out with Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
No, it's just we just I first of all, i'd
need a thesaurus. I don't even under I mean, this year,
he's kind of he's turned into a word. I don't
don't know.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Man, I just don't know that we have anything in
common at all. Like I probably have a lot in
common with NFL guys, but not Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
He's just he's too different.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Don't you think that story is kind of I mean, really,
it's just can you imagine somebody going into the Chiefs
four days in the building, and and and everybody just
steps aside and said, take it away, new receiver guy, Hey,
d hop take it away, d Hop. I like DeAndre Hopkins.
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I think he's a good player, He's not a burner.
I think DeVante is more talented. But new guy doesn't
get a set agenda or or or tell you how
the world works. That's not what new guy gets to do.
Working theory.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
Aaron Rodgers to DeVante Adams, Hey, man, I got you
out of Vegas. Do me a solid talk to these guys.
I've been trying. It's not getting through. I need you
to talk to them. I guarantee you that's what happened.
You think Devanta Adams is to just stand up in
front of a team he just arrived at and make
a big speech unless somebody put them up to it.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
And who else would that be but Aaron Rodgers. Yeah,
a lot of things happening yesterday in the NFL and
with k d oh oh top of next hour, Greg Cosel,
And I'll also give you you know, we do this
before Super Bowls, Conference Championships, World Series, NBA finals. I
get a yellow piece of paper and I give you
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the ten best players in order, So we'll give you
the ten best players. This series is crazy. It's a
remarkable who I left off? I mean there I left
off an infielder for one of these teams. It's really good.
I mean, these two teams should be in the World Series.
The one through ten, there's a lot of Hall of Famers.
You get to eleven through fifteen and I'm like, I can't,
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can't we find a spot for this player? But we couldn't.
And that's in forty five minutes.
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Speaker 1 (14:04):
Okay, so the World Series starts tomorrow. It's gonna be
a bonus. We got very lucky. The Yankees felt like
the best team in the American League. They've got, you know,
a stable of really good starting pitching, and so if
it comes down to a pitching series, Yankees haven't advantage.
Dodgers have to really get that bullpen to ham. It
did against the Podres, it did against the Mets, but
the Yankees are a different animal. So we thought, I
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always do this for a World Series, a national championship,
you know an NFC Championship, NBA Finals. I put down.
I tend to like who has the most good players
because I don't think you know, I think your stars
carry you to championships. So in order of who I
think right now are the ten best players in the
World Series, here we go with number ten, Tommy edmund
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for the Dodgers. First of all, versatile, experienced NLCS MVP
leads the Dodgers and hits and stolen bases this postseason.
I mean, he's been clutch, he's versatile, he can run,
you get extra bases, he's got power, and the guy's
playing a different position than he was several months ago.
He has been a total spark plug for this team.
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The NLCSMVP Tommy Edmonds at ten, number nine, a guy
that when the Yankees and Dodgers played at Yankee Stadium
earlier this year kind of dominated the weekend. Taoscar Hernandez,
a two time All Star, one of the best under
the radar signings in Major League Baseball this year. Now,
he struggled in the NLCS. That's why I'm going to
put him lower. He can be a bit hot and cold.
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Power hitting guys can, but he's in a great spot
in the batting order behind O, Tawny and Bett, so
he gets good pitches to hit right. So and the
guy got real power. Go back to that Yankee series
in New York. He can take games over number eight.
I would do. Third baseman Max Munsei, a two time
All Star. The best way to say it is he's
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led this entire franchise and on base percentage in the
play that's pretty good when you got a roster like
the Dodgers. At one point he rached reached bays in
twelve consecutive plate appearances. People don't do that in Williamsport.
That's like not even a realistic little league stat months.
He's one of those guys everybody forgets about. But when
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he gets smoking again, he can carry you. He can
carry you through big late inning surges. Max Munsey, number seven,
John Carlos Stanton, five time All Start Now he led
the Yankees seven extra base hits this postseason right heat.
But he's also a power guy, so you know, power
guys like a tay Oscar Hernandez sometimes can disappear. He
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has sixteen home runs though in thirty six playoff games.
So they got him for a reason playoffs, delivering bombs.
I put him in number seven, number six, and this
guy may be the key to the series. Is Garrett
Cole always been a good postseason pitcher. In this postseason
three starts three point three to one er. Now, guys
don't throw complete games anymore, so I don't have a
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lot of starting pitching in my top ten. It's not
like ten years ago where you could say, oh, yeah,
Berlander is going to go two full games. That's not
what you're gonna get here. But he's a six time
All Star, a Cy Young winner a year ago, and
again he could pitch in game one game you know what,
if you have a rain in New York, maybe Game four,
a couple of innings in game seven, he could decide
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the series. Garrett Cole number five, He's gotten extra time
off Freddy Freeman, an eight time All Star, got him
from Atlanta. He's absolutely delivered. A great guy, locker room guy.
Now he missed some time in the NLCS, but you
get big time power and a guy that just always
feels like to me, can burst the game open now again,
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hitting singles now, he's not gonna leg stuff out. You're
not getting a triple out of a double and a
double out of a single. With him, he's limping, but
he has had extra rest and I put him. I'd
be surprised if he didn't have a good World Series.
Freddy Freeman at five one, Soto at number four. Now again,
this guy was MVP of the series. You wouldn't be shocked.
He may become the richest player in baseball here in
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a few months. What's great about him is he walks
a ton. He gets on base, he doesn't strike out.
He hits for power. I mean, if it wasn't for
guys like that are above him on this list. You know,
there's arguments that he's one of the great players in
the last ten years in terms of pure talent. If
he's the MVP of this series, nobody in the world
will be surprised. Hit three sixty eight during the ALCS
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just an all time great talent. Number three in a
bit of a slump. Aaron Judge, Now again, he is
a power hitter, and I'm always a little worried about
power hitters in the postseason. Taoscar Hernandez, if you told
me he had a bad series, I wouldn't be surprised.
If Aaron Judge struggled. I wouldn't be shocked. He was
only five for thirty one with thirteen strikeouts in the postseason.
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So again, and the Dodgers know this, like he can
be hot and cold, but he did. You know he
did lead baseball and home runs and RBIs and slugging percentage.
Also a great guy.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Two.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I think he's one of the most versa. He reminds
me of Joe Morgan as a kid growing up. What
doesn't he do well? Morgan could run field power average.
Mookie Betts. Over the last nine games, he's hitting three
forty two. He played shortstop, he plays outfield. He leads
the Dodgers with eight extra base hits. Here's a guy
Freddy Freeman won't. But if you need a single turn
to a double, a double to a triple, it's Mookie Betts.
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You get speed, you get I don't even know how
he generates all this power for his size. You get
massive versatility. He has played outfield, second base, shortstop. I
still can't believe the Red Sox let him go. They've
never been the same franchise. If it's not for Otawi,
He's the best player, most versatile player in baseball. Mookie
Betts again. How does he generate all that power he does?
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He's amazing and number one show hey O tawny eighteen
for his last twenty three with men in scoring position
again at the College World Series, that would be insane.
He's batting seven eighty three with twenty eight r bucks RBI.
He leads all players this postseason. Twelve runs scored reached
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Bay sixteen times in the NLCS. There's my ten. So
you got one, two three, I got six Dodgers, four Yankees.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
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Speaker 1 (20:26):
Drew Brees thirteen Pro Bowls, Super Bowl, twenty NFL seasons.
So there are two things that aren't really football, but
they're fascinating to me. So I've never looked at I
know you guys are pro athletes and performers, but you're
not singers, you're not actors. You're I mean you are,
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but ninety percent of what you guys do is weight room,
is film room. It is hard. And then you go,
you know, you perform. You don't perform for me, you
perform for your coach. I don't look at you guys,
I know you can be in her two, but that's
not how I look at football players or athletes. There's
a distinction. And so Jerry Jones has this practice facility,
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and there's an article today and he goes, I think
my players are inspired having fans watch them work out,
And I think I would be so annoyed if I
had people staring at my show all the time working here.
So you tell me, when you worked out film room facility,
would you want Randolls walking around? Would it be distracting
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or is it just not matter?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
No, it would absolutely be a distraction. Make you feel
like an animal in zoo, especially when there's so much
at stake. You know, to me, the locker room and
the practice field and everyone in the facility is sacred
and it's meant to be that. This is where we
come to work, this is where we come to be professional,
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This is where we come to master our craft so
that we could go out on Sunday and win for
this organization and win for this community. And so having
I mean even just having the media there, Honestly, I'd
rather not, you know, I just I just wanted to
be our team. Yeah, right, those that are going to
be out there on Sunday, you know, putting it on
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the line to help us win.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, no, I it just it just it doesn't work
for me. So DeVante Adams goes to the Jets, d
Hop goes to Kansas City. Amari Cooper, I think it's
a pretty good fit, goes to Buffalo, you know, And
I think it's very hard in any business to say,
all right, Drew, you got to throw to this guy, like, Okay,
we're not in camp like you know, you're you're in
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the install. You're trying to figure So what is realistic
for me to think if I insert Amari Cooper? How
fast can you get up to twelve targets and eight catches?
Or is that just unrealistic and fantasy football talk? How
long would it take you with a nuke, even if
the guy's good, How long would it take you to
insert him into the offense and to just be up
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and running.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I love this question with an experienced quarterback very quickly,
because in most cases, you are very aware of these guys,
and you are very very aware of their traits and
their skill set, like you've watched them for years and years,
just as you've watched film and you've sat there and
watched what they've done. You've compared it to the guys
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on your team. You've probably stolen plays and concepts based
on watching them and incorporate them into your offense. So like,
very quickly you can understand, like I would know, for example,
like Devanta Adams, we're sitting here watching If you just
put Devanta Adams on my team, we would be on
the same page very quickly, because I've watched this guy play.
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I've studied this guy. I know that, like my receivers
have studied this guy, so like I know his movements,
I know his body language. I know when he's anticipating
the ball on fades or when he knows the back
shoulders coming, he's prepared, preparing his body to flip his
hips and make that catch.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Right.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Like, there's just little things that I would recognize, and man,
we would get on the same page so fast.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, you know, you got inducted into the Saints Hall
of Fame last week, and you you I mean, there's
the obviously iconic picture of you and one of your
kids after the super Bowl. But it's really funny, is
you are I look at you as such a grinder
that I always wonder. Obviously there's emotional moments for you.
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I don't see you as a guy. You have a
Brady quality and Mahomes and Lamar have this. I don't
see you as a big celebration guy. Maybe there's a
point in your life where you'll go back, but it's
when you get into the Hall of Fame. Were there
times in your career that you ever in a bye
week said, you know what, it's Drew week. I'm gonna
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just I'm not watching film for four days because I
just view you as such a grinder to the awar Wards.
Now what do they mean to you in the big
picture of what you've done?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Look, you appreciate it. I'm extremely grateful. I'm extremely grateful
for the career that I was able to have, for
the circumstances that led me to New Orleans, which you know, never,
never in my wildest dreams that I think that that
would occur. In fact, like New Orleans was not the
most popular place to be. You know, that decision was made,
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you know, and yet what that journey was like and
what we were able to accomplish there was was unbelievable.
And so you know, every time I walk back in
into the Superdome, into that building. It's like the rush
of emotion and the memories from from what we were
able to accomplish there and have my family be a
part of it. In the fan base, you know, everybody,
you know, so many people in that stadium were part
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of a lot of those moments. So yeah, I just
it gives you a chance to just be grateful, and
that's that's a good feeling.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah. You know, I'm watching some of these young quarterbacks
and you can see them growing, Like Haleb Williams, his
feet are steadier, he's he feels like he's a bit
more under control. Now maybe they've just refined simplified looks
or refined looks for him, like and it could be that.
But when you let's say you're go to go to
your tenthiere in the league, was there a point with
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you you weren't necessarily improving? You've seen every defense? What
do you work on when you become mahomes Breeze in
your ten, Big Ben in your eight what did you
work on? You'd seen every defense? What where did you
get better?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I'd say situational football? Like you just continue to master
situation of football, which which to me is is what
determines so many games. You know, it's how are you
handling you know, the last half of the first half, right,
and then the first part of the third quarter, and
then preparing for you know, that final drive of the
game where you anticipate that you're going to have to
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go down and win the game. And oh, by the way,
not only that, but you're kind of working the clock
a little bit because if I'm staring across the sideline
at a Tom Brady or a Mahomes or an Aaron
Rodgers or somebody else, I don't want to give them
too much time so I can I can score too quick,
right Like, I don't want to do that. So, man,
you just you're constantly trying to master situational football. I'll
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give you an example so I'll never forget this. Twenty nineteen.
So this is my this is my nineteenth year in
the NFL. Twenty nineteen. We're doing a two minute drill
in a practice and I burn a time out with
about like I don't know, twenty seconds left as we're
just going up against our defense. It's a two minute
practice and training camp, I burned my last time out,
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you know, I was in control of the two minute calls,
I was in control the timeouts. I burned my last
time out, and then the next play something happens, boo
bo we run out of time. We run out of time.
And I was so mad at myself, and I went
back and I like analyzed that moment in practice, and
I said, always, always do whatever you can to leave
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yourself a timeout at the end of the game so
that you're you have access to the whole field, because
when you don't have a timeout and you're inside of
twenty seconds, you don't necessarily have access to the whole field, right, right,
Like you have to get the ball out of bounds,
you know, or you have to throw in completion, like
you can't just run one. You can't throw a screen,
you can't, right, you don't have the whole playbook or
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the whole field at your disposal. If you have a timeout,
you do so. Sure enough, the very first game of
the twenty nineteen season, we play Monday Night Football against
the Houston Texans. Right, we go down score at the
end of the game to take the lead. I think
we've got the game one. Deshaun Watson ironic. So it
was like a sixty yard bomb and they score with
thirty seven seconds left to go it by one or
two points, and we have one time out thirty seven seconds,
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and I in my mind say, all right, I'm calling
this play ten yard completion clock. This play fifteen yard
completion clock. Next play completion time out. There's be two
seconds left. We're gonna kick the game winning field sure enough. Ten.
It was a twelve yard completion of Michael Thomas. Get up, quick,
quick spike. Next play like deep deep hook to Ted
(29:08):
Gin Jr. Spike it. Next play boom, ten yard cerll
t to Ted Gan. We had six seconds left, by
the way, six seconds boom, that's took four seconds. Pay
time out, two seconds, come out, keep a fifty nine
yard field goal. We win the game. Right, So, like I, man,
you're always learning. And that's why I love these situational
football moments in practice where like coach will just throw
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out some crazy scenario, right, and all of a sudden,
you just have to think on your feet. You've got
to go out and man, maybe you fail in practice
and then you get and then you just send you
on this journey. Like I never want that moment to
happen again. In the game. I'm going to be ready
for that, and sure enough it pays dividends.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, you know, you didn't throw a lot of picks,
but many of the great Nameth, Peyton, Manning, uh Mahomes,
by the way, has hill On Cork an ugly one.
How do you compartmentalize? And Mahomes does it really well?
He just forgets it. Andrew Luck was good at this. Andrew.
You know, Andrew could throw a bad pick. I remember Drew.
(30:09):
I remember watching him live at usc against Stanford. He
threw a pick six against us. He at the coliseum.
It was bad, and he laughed. They showed it on
the screen. He came over, he was hitting his helmet.
The next drive he went ninety yards and you're like, man,
how do you forget that? Again? You didn't have a
lot of bad picks, but kind of take me through
like a Mahomes how he just shuts it off and
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it's just like, all right, I would think that's so
hard to do.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
So, first off, I did throw a lot of picks
early in my career, and I'd say probably the last
year six to eight years, I got a lot a
lot better because at the end of the day, what
which you also learn as you become as a quarterback.
You become a master of probability. You understand when and
how to take chances. You understand matchups, you understand the
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guys that you're going against. You understand you just kind
of know, right, like when you can take that chance
or when you can't. Right. But as far as just
the short term memory, look, that is the key to
playing the quarterback position because there are plenty of things
that are outside of your control that could affect your performance.
And then there's times where, man, you just make a
bonehead move or a bonehead decision and it's like, man,
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where did that come from? And you have to be
able to put it behind you. There's a saying that
I always think about in football that's it's you're only
as good as your next performance. So whether it was
good or whether it was bad, the only thing that
matters is the next play, right, the next opportunity. And
I'd say the hardest part for me is when you're
in games and man, you just feel like you're out
of sync or out of rhythm, you know, like it's
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just you're missing throws or whether and a lot of
times you can self correct, you know, just based on
kind of your knowledge of like where you miss Okay, well, man,
I missed high Okay, I must have. You know, I
overstrowed right, or I dropped my elbow right like. So
there's there's things that you can kind of fix on
the run. But for the most part, I would just
tell myself, like, trust your instincts and go fast and
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and don't pass up open guys. Right. And when when
I got to that point, then I was a machine. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Drew Brees eligible for the Hall first ballot. He'll get
in twenty twenty six. I'm gonna guess right now. I'm
gonna guess that you're in New Orleans right now? Am
I wrong? Nah?
Speaker 3 (32:24):
I'm San Diego.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I was looking at your blinds and I thought those
look New Land.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah, that's that's her reflection in the mirror here. Yeah,
we got we got the Roman shades here to uh,
you know, I don't know anything block out the sun
sometimes
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Great scene the Manizuellas Drew Brees
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
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Thanks for Megan hous part of your day. One hour
from now, Greg Cosell, if you bet football, fantasy football,
want to get smarter at football? Greg Cosel, Tonight Rams,
host of Vikings, I like Minnesota, get into that in
(00:48):
a second. Drew Brees also stops by today. So I
have a believer Jmac that there are certain personalities that
are better fits with person you know and jobs.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
If you want to be.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
In sales, for instance, you're probably being better as an extrovert,
not an introvert. If you want to be in finance
or accounting, you've got to be really into details. You
can't be kind of loose on that. So there are
certain personalities that matter. Can you agree with that?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
All right, So I think the personality to be a
great NFL GM and to be a great visionary and
marketer are two different personalities. And this morning I'm reading
a piece on ESPN about Jerry Jones and his practice facility,
which is viewed as the best in the league, but
it is also the practice facility. This story is incredible
(01:42):
that gives fans the most access, and former Cowboys have
complained about it, saying they felt like fans were staring
at them as they worked out, poking, prodding. They felt
like one said it was a zoo. And this article
is fantastic, it says Jerry Jones is quoted it's old.
When those players go through our complex out there and
(02:03):
the fans see them, it's gold. But set a player,
you get randos, random people constantly walking through the facility
and I'm trying to get a late night workout or
a hot tub in. It's a constant conflict in this
article of what Jerry sees is great and what players
see is annoying. Jerry thinks the fans' presence inside the
(02:29):
facility inspires the players and staff when clearly the article
signifies it annoys them. Now, is this the reason the
Cowboys this year are struggling? Is this the reason the
Cowboys are struggling? Of course not, but it does show
you this constant showmanship, this fascination with his players being
(02:51):
spectacles and touchable with the fans, and the radio hits,
and the constant need revenue from over everything. It wears
on people. Are the Cowboys just a Bubba Gump shrimp
franchise with tackling? Is it all about merchandise and sales?
(03:14):
I was thinking about this the GM thing. First of all,
Jerry's owner GM. The GM thing is a full time job.
The guys I know that are gms don't sleep much. Secondly,
Jerry sees Dallas revenue and ratings and think it's working,
but it's not really for the GM. The mind, the
(03:35):
ultimate success is Brett Veach finding Isaiah Pacheco in the
seventh round, not having to really pay much yet getting
massive production for four years. Every GM I know value
above everything, seeking value, film junkies, grinders not impulsive, But
(03:55):
to be Jerry in a billionaire it takes a visionary
and marketer and promoter and hey, little light on the details,
but hey, we'll make it work. And they're in conflict.
What takes a great GM the ones. I know these
guys don't want They don't care about team revenue. They
(04:19):
care about finding players at a value proposition. Jerry, he
likes players, especially if he's the one that wanted to
draft it. Remember they had to talk Jerry out of
Johnny Manziel. Johnny Manziel didn't didn't have what it takes.
But Jerry didn't see the flaws. He saw the potential
(04:39):
Texas kid, Johnny football. He had to be talked out
of that by Stephen Jones. And my point is your
CEO can't be your CFO, right the person seeking diamonds
in the rough probably shouldn't be the promoter to the
mass market on diamonds. And that's where I think the
conflict is. And over the course of time, the Cowboys
(05:02):
have been incredibly insular. I mean, no GM in the league.
If you read this story thought that's what I want.
And yet I bet you havelf. The owners are like brilliant.
If you pay seventy dollars, not just forty on the
daily tour, you get a pin in an autograph from Jerry,
and it's just I get it if it was, you know,
(05:27):
a T shirt shop in Maui. But it just comes
across as Jerry, you can't be a GM and an owner.
You're really good at the owner part, you're really bad
at the GM thing. Well, I haven't missed on that
many draft picks. It's not just that you're not creating
an environment where you're keeping the thing the thing, so
(05:50):
they're profitable, but they're not productive in January and February.
There are certain personalities that really fit certain jobs and
Jerry this year. And when Jerry gets unhappy, he does
another thing GMS would not like. He pokes his coach,
he goes on radio, he used surps leadership, he takes
(06:12):
shots at them. No GM would sign up for that.
But the visionary and the marketer sees big picture. I'm
getting them all riled up. Albert Breer discussed that yesterday.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I think he's felt the whole like, if you look
at the way he's operated since the end of last season,
it's been constantly turning the heat up. The all In comment,
even though they didn't really spend in the offseason sending
Mike McCarthy into a contract year, which is very unconventional,
making Dak Prescott and Ceedee Lamb wait until the summer
to get their deals done, not paying Micaeh Parsons now.
(06:46):
And I think he felt like, I've got to turn
the heat up on everyone in the organization because everybody
here has gotten too comfortable. Now he sees it in
the middle of the season, it still doesn't look good.
So what's he going to do. He's not turning the
heat down, He's turning the heat back up.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
All right.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I swear to you. I swear to you. I'm gonna
stop talking about Aaron Rodgers as soon as I possibly can.
But this was interesting. One of the things I sort
of laugh at on the Internet is seeing bitcoin hustler
lecture people like Warren Buffett on how finances work. Yeah,
I'm gonna go with the latter, not bitcoin hustler, who
(07:20):
also told me NFTs were a tree that would grow
to the sky. I'm gonna go with Warren Buffett. In
the stock market, which, lucky enough, my dad was in it.
I've been in it since nineteen eighty eight. I've done fine.
You keep hustling. But I saw this story and It's
just it. It's crazy. And I like Davonte Adams and
(07:40):
I think he can help Jets. I don't think he's
the difference between not making the playoffs and playoffs. They've
already got a good receiver. But I like him as
a player. He seems like a nice guy. Defended him before.
Apparently he gave the postgame speech after the last loss.
First game, been in the building for days, he gave
(08:00):
a speech. Boy does that scream we have a lack
of leadership structure. And what's funny is the Jets and
Aaron Rodgers thought he crushed it. Can you imagine this
the Kansas City chiefs Andy Reid, Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, Chris Jones.
Guy shows up in the facility four days, tough loss,
and the new guy's like, hey, I got some things
(08:22):
to say here, Yeah, it want it? You be in
the building more than like four days. Can you imagine
Brady Belichick, Edelman, Gronk tough loss, new guy in the building.
I've got some thoughts on this. And Devonte Adams comes
from the Raiders the most maybe one of the only
(08:43):
franchises more dysfunctional than the Jets. I mean, I don't
know there. If you look at the successful teams in
the NFL, in any sport, there's a rank and file.
Like in the NFL, San Francisco, Baltimore, can the city
you know what it is, Green Bay, there's a rank
and file. The coach speaks and then the quarterback, the
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franchise star quarterback takes that message to the troops. With
the Jets, new guy in the buildings got something to say.
And I like Davante, but the Raiders are even more
dysfunctional than the Jets. And Davante was at a functional
place and left it for the Raiders, so I questioned
(09:30):
his judgment. And I like him, But this bitcoin guy
can't tell real estate guru how it works. It doesn't
work that way. And to me, I mean, is Hassan
Reddick giving a pregame speech in two weeks, Let's put
fireman ad on the headset make some plays. I mean,
(09:50):
what are we doing here? There's that's not how it works.
I mean, you've already fired your coach, You've already now
in your second offensive coordinator. And the court back who
uses big words a lot, is like, I'm not really comfortable.
Taken away to Vante what he's been in the building
five days? What do we from a losing franchise?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
And I like him?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
But Aaron's all smiles and using big words as they
prepare for their next game.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Every year presents its own challenges, and thankfully we're not
to the de new mab of this season. You know,
there's still a lot of time left. I think it's
important that we all just stay as sanguine as possible.
You know this, it's a long season. There's a lot
of ups and downs.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Sanguine as possible? Is he manifesting that and his vision board? Okay, yes, yeah,
it's just it's I can like a player, but boy,
do you lack management structure and leadership structure? If the
new guy in the workplace, where do you work in
your law firm? I mean on our show, the interns don't.
(10:58):
They don't get a big say, even if they're talented,
like like you got to kind of be in a
room for a while, right, Well, he's not. He's an
excellent player from a totally dysfunctional franchise and left a
great franchise to go to the Raiders. And the last
two franchises now Raiders Jets are highly dysfunctional, and isn't
it kind of Aaron's locker room. The whole thing's weird.
(11:21):
The whole thing's weird to me. Teams that are losing
in this league, Dallas right now and the Jets that
are losing for a reason. It's not coincidence. It's not
bad bad luck. J Mack. Maybe they'll call you to
have a big pregame has onon. Reddick's going to be
firing this team up in two weeks. Okay, how do
(11:42):
you spell daniu?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Mal?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
I love Rogers, man, This guy is real.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
He's a real piece of work.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
By the way, do you think you could ever hang
out with Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
No, it's just we just I first of all, i'd
need a thesaurus. I don't even under I mean, this year,
he's kind of he's turned into a word. I don't
don't know.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Man, I just don't know that we have anything in
common at all. Like I probably have a lot in
common with NFL guys, but not Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
He's just he's too different.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Don't you think that story is kind of I mean, really,
it's just can you imagine somebody going into the Chiefs
four days in the building, and and and everybody just
steps aside and said, take it away, new receiver guy, Hey,
d hop take it away, d Hop. I like DeAndre Hopkins.
(12:34):
I think he's a good player, He's not a burner.
I think DeVante is more talented. But new guy doesn't
get a set agenda or or or tell you how
the world works. That's not what new guy gets to do.
Working theory.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
Aaron Rodgers to DeVante Adams, Hey, man, I got you
out of Vegas. Do me a solid talk to these guys.
I've been trying. It's not getting through. I need you
to talk to them. I guarantee you that's what happened.
You think Devanta Adams is to just stand up in
front of a team he just arrived at and make
a big speech unless somebody put them up to it.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
And who else would that be but Aaron Rodgers. Yeah,
a lot of things happening yesterday in the NFL and
with k d oh oh top of next hour, Greg Cosel,
And I'll also give you you know, we do this
before Super Bowls, Conference Championships, World Series, NBA finals. I
get a yellow piece of paper and I give you
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the ten best players in order, So we'll give you
the ten best players. This series is crazy. It's a
remarkable who I left off? I mean there I left
off an infielder for one of these teams. It's really good.
I mean, these two teams should be in the World Series.
The one through ten, there's a lot of Hall of Famers.
You get to eleven through fifteen and I'm like, I can't,
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can't we find a spot for this player? But we couldn't.
And that's in forty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
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Speaker 1 (14:04):
Okay, so the World Series starts tomorrow. It's gonna be
a bonus. We got very lucky. The Yankees felt like
the best team in the American League. They've got, you know,
a stable of really good starting pitching, and so if
it comes down to a pitching series, Yankees haven't advantage.
Dodgers have to really get that bullpen to ham. It
did against the Podres, it did against the Mets, but
the Yankees are a different animal. So we thought, I
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always do this for a World Series, a national championship,
you know an NFC Championship, NBA Finals. I put down.
I tend to like who has the most good players
because I don't think you know, I think your stars
carry you to championships. So in order of who I
think right now are the ten best players in the
World Series, here we go with number ten, Tommy edmund
(14:50):
for the Dodgers. First of all, versatile, experienced NLCS MVP
leads the Dodgers and hits and stolen bases this postseason.
I mean, he's been clutch, he's versatile, he can run,
you get extra bases, he's got power, and the guy's
playing a different position than he was several months ago.
He has been a total spark plug for this team.
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The NLCSMVP Tommy Edmonds at ten, number nine, a guy
that when the Yankees and Dodgers played at Yankee Stadium
earlier this year kind of dominated the weekend. Taoscar Hernandez,
a two time All Star, one of the best under
the radar signings in Major League Baseball this year. Now,
he struggled in the NLCS. That's why I'm going to
put him lower. He can be a bit hot and cold.
(15:35):
Power hitting guys can, but he's in a great spot
in the batting order behind O, Tawny and Bett, so
he gets good pitches to hit right. So and the
guy got real power. Go back to that Yankee series
in New York. He can take games over number eight.
I would do. Third baseman Max Munsei, a two time
All Star. The best way to say it is he's
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led this entire franchise and on base percentage in the
play that's pretty good when you got a roster like
the Dodgers. At one point he rached reached bays in
twelve consecutive plate appearances. People don't do that in Williamsport.
That's like not even a realistic little league stat months.
He's one of those guys everybody forgets about. But when
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he gets smoking again, he can carry you. He can
carry you through big late inning surges. Max Munsey, number seven,
John Carlos Stanton, five time All Start Now he led
the Yankees seven extra base hits this postseason right heat.
But he's also a power guy, so you know, power
guys like a tay Oscar Hernandez sometimes can disappear. He
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has sixteen home runs though in thirty six playoff games.
So they got him for a reason playoffs, delivering bombs.
I put him in number seven, number six, and this
guy may be the key to the series. Is Garrett
Cole always been a good postseason pitcher. In this postseason
three starts three point three to one er. Now, guys
don't throw complete games anymore, so I don't have a
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lot of starting pitching in my top ten. It's not
like ten years ago where you could say, oh, yeah,
Berlander is going to go two full games. That's not
what you're gonna get here. But he's a six time
All Star, a Cy Young winner a year ago, and
again he could pitch in game one game you know what,
if you have a rain in New York, maybe Game four,
a couple of innings in game seven, he could decide
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the series. Garrett Cole number five, He's gotten extra time
off Freddy Freeman, an eight time All Star, got him
from Atlanta. He's absolutely delivered. A great guy, locker room guy.
Now he missed some time in the NLCS, but you
get big time power and a guy that just always
feels like to me, can burst the game open now again,
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hitting singles now, he's not gonna leg stuff out. You're
not getting a triple out of a double and a
double out of a single. With him, he's limping, but
he has had extra rest and I put him. I'd
be surprised if he didn't have a good World Series.
Freddy Freeman at five one, Soto at number four. Now again,
this guy was MVP of the series. You wouldn't be shocked.
He may become the richest player in baseball here in
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a few months. What's great about him is he walks
a ton. He gets on base, he doesn't strike out.
He hits for power. I mean, if it wasn't for
guys like that are above him on this list. You know,
there's arguments that he's one of the great players in
the last ten years in terms of pure talent. If
he's the MVP of this series, nobody in the world
will be surprised. Hit three sixty eight during the ALCS
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just an all time great talent. Number three in a
bit of a slump. Aaron Judge, Now again, he is
a power hitter, and I'm always a little worried about
power hitters in the postseason. Taoscar Hernandez, if you told
me he had a bad series, I wouldn't be surprised.
If Aaron Judge struggled. I wouldn't be shocked. He was
only five for thirty one with thirteen strikeouts in the postseason.
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So again, and the Dodgers know this, like he can
be hot and cold, but he did. You know he
did lead baseball and home runs and RBIs and slugging percentage.
Also a great guy.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Two.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I think he's one of the most versa. He reminds
me of Joe Morgan as a kid growing up. What
doesn't he do well? Morgan could run field power average.
Mookie Betts. Over the last nine games, he's hitting three
forty two. He played shortstop, he plays outfield. He leads
the Dodgers with eight extra base hits. Here's a guy
Freddy Freeman won't. But if you need a single turn
to a double, a double to a triple, it's Mookie Betts.
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You get speed, you get I don't even know how
he generates all this power for his size. You get
massive versatility. He has played outfield, second base, shortstop. I
still can't believe the Red Sox let him go. They've
never been the same franchise. If it's not for Otawi,
He's the best player, most versatile player in baseball. Mookie
Betts again. How does he generate all that power he does?
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He's amazing and number one show hey O tawny eighteen
for his last twenty three with men in scoring position
again at the College World Series, that would be insane.
He's batting seven eighty three with twenty eight r bucks RBI.
He leads all players this postseason. Twelve runs scored reached
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Bay sixteen times in the NLCS. There's my ten. So
you got one, two three, I got six Dodgers, four Yankees.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
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Speaker 1 (20:26):
Drew Brees thirteen Pro Bowls, Super Bowl, twenty NFL seasons.
So there are two things that aren't really football, but
they're fascinating to me. So I've never looked at I
know you guys are pro athletes and performers, but you're
not singers, you're not actors. You're I mean you are,
(20:46):
but ninety percent of what you guys do is weight room,
is film room. It is hard. And then you go,
you know, you perform. You don't perform for me, you
perform for your coach. I don't look at you guys,
I know you can be in her two, but that's
not how I look at football players or athletes. There's
a distinction. And so Jerry Jones has this practice facility,
(21:07):
and there's an article today and he goes, I think
my players are inspired having fans watch them work out,
And I think I would be so annoyed if I
had people staring at my show all the time working here.
So you tell me, when you worked out film room facility,
would you want Randolls walking around? Would it be distracting
(21:28):
or is it just not matter?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
No, it would absolutely be a distraction. Make you feel
like an animal in zoo, especially when there's so much
at stake. You know, to me, the locker room and
the practice field and everyone in the facility is sacred
and it's meant to be that. This is where we
come to work, this is where we come to be professional,
(21:52):
This is where we come to master our craft so
that we could go out on Sunday and win for
this organization and win for this community. And so having
I mean even just having the media there, Honestly, I'd
rather not, you know, I just I just wanted to
be our team. Yeah, right, those that are going to
be out there on Sunday, you know, putting it on
(22:13):
the line to help us win.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, no, I it just it just it doesn't work
for me. So DeVante Adams goes to the Jets, d
Hop goes to Kansas City. Amari Cooper, I think it's
a pretty good fit, goes to Buffalo, you know, And
I think it's very hard in any business to say,
all right, Drew, you got to throw to this guy, like, Okay,
we're not in camp like you know, you're you're in
(22:37):
the install. You're trying to figure So what is realistic
for me to think if I insert Amari Cooper? How
fast can you get up to twelve targets and eight catches?
Or is that just unrealistic and fantasy football talk? How
long would it take you with a nuke, even if
the guy's good, How long would it take you to
insert him into the offense and to just be up
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and running.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I love this question with an experienced quarterback very quickly,
because in most cases, you are very aware of these guys,
and you are very very aware of their traits and
their skill set, like you've watched them for years and years,
just as you've watched film and you've sat there and
watched what they've done. You've compared it to the guys
(23:23):
on your team. You've probably stolen plays and concepts based
on watching them and incorporate them into your offense. So like,
very quickly you can understand, like I would know, for example,
like Devanta Adams, we're sitting here watching If you just
put Devanta Adams on my team, we would be on
the same page very quickly, because I've watched this guy play.
(23:45):
I've studied this guy. I know that, like my receivers
have studied this guy, so like I know his movements,
I know his body language. I know when he's anticipating
the ball on fades or when he knows the back
shoulders coming, he's prepared, preparing his body to flip his
hips and make that catch.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Right.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Like, there's just little things that I would recognize, and man,
we would get on the same page so fast.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, you know, you got inducted into the Saints Hall
of Fame last week, and you you I mean, there's
the obviously iconic picture of you and one of your
kids after the super Bowl. But it's really funny, is
you are I look at you as such a grinder
that I always wonder. Obviously there's emotional moments for you.
(24:32):
I don't see you as a guy. You have a
Brady quality and Mahomes and Lamar have this. I don't
see you as a big celebration guy. Maybe there's a
point in your life where you'll go back, but it's
when you get into the Hall of Fame. Were there
times in your career that you ever in a bye
week said, you know what, it's Drew week. I'm gonna
(24:53):
just I'm not watching film for four days because I
just view you as such a grinder to the awar Wards.
Now what do they mean to you in the big
picture of what you've done?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Look, you appreciate it. I'm extremely grateful. I'm extremely grateful
for the career that I was able to have, for
the circumstances that led me to New Orleans, which you know, never,
never in my wildest dreams that I think that that
would occur. In fact, like New Orleans was not the
most popular place to be. You know, that decision was made,
(25:26):
you know, and yet what that journey was like and
what we were able to accomplish there was was unbelievable.
And so you know, every time I walk back in
into the Superdome, into that building. It's like the rush
of emotion and the memories from from what we were
able to accomplish there and have my family be a
part of it. In the fan base, you know, everybody,
you know, so many people in that stadium were part
(25:46):
of a lot of those moments. So yeah, I just
it gives you a chance to just be grateful, and
that's that's a good feeling.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah. You know, I'm watching some of these young quarterbacks
and you can see them growing, Like Haleb Williams, his
feet are steadier, he's he feels like he's a bit
more under control. Now maybe they've just refined simplified looks
or refined looks for him, like and it could be that.
But when you let's say you're go to go to
your tenthiere in the league, was there a point with
(26:17):
you you weren't necessarily improving? You've seen every defense? What
do you work on when you become mahomes Breeze in
your ten, Big Ben in your eight what did you
work on? You'd seen every defense? What where did you
get better?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I'd say situational football? Like you just continue to master
situation of football, which which to me is is what
determines so many games. You know, it's how are you
handling you know, the last half of the first half, right,
and then the first part of the third quarter, and
then preparing for you know, that final drive of the
game where you anticipate that you're going to have to
(26:58):
go down and win the game. And oh, by the way,
not only that, but you're kind of working the clock
a little bit because if I'm staring across the sideline
at a Tom Brady or a Mahomes or an Aaron
Rodgers or somebody else, I don't want to give them
too much time so I can I can score too quick,
right Like, I don't want to do that. So, man,
you just you're constantly trying to master situational football. I'll
(27:19):
give you an example so I'll never forget this. Twenty nineteen.
So this is my this is my nineteenth year in
the NFL. Twenty nineteen. We're doing a two minute drill
in a practice and I burn a time out with
about like I don't know, twenty seconds left as we're
just going up against our defense. It's a two minute
practice and training camp, I burned my last time out,
(27:39):
you know, I was in control of the two minute calls,
I was in control the timeouts. I burned my last
time out, and then the next play something happens, boo
bo we run out of time. We run out of time.
And I was so mad at myself, and I went
back and I like analyzed that moment in practice, and
I said, always, always do whatever you can to leave
(28:01):
yourself a timeout at the end of the game so
that you're you have access to the whole field, because
when you don't have a timeout and you're inside of
twenty seconds, you don't necessarily have access to the whole field, right, right,
Like you have to get the ball out of bounds,
you know, or you have to throw in completion, like
you can't just run one. You can't throw a screen,
you can't, right, you don't have the whole playbook or
(28:22):
the whole field at your disposal. If you have a timeout,
you do so. Sure enough, the very first game of
the twenty nineteen season, we play Monday Night Football against
the Houston Texans. Right, we go down score at the
end of the game to take the lead. I think
we've got the game one. Deshaun Watson ironic. So it
was like a sixty yard bomb and they score with
thirty seven seconds left to go it by one or
two points, and we have one time out thirty seven seconds,
(28:48):
and I in my mind say, all right, I'm calling
this play ten yard completion clock. This play fifteen yard
completion clock. Next play completion time out. There's be two
seconds left. We're gonna kick the game winning field sure enough. Ten.
It was a twelve yard completion of Michael Thomas. Get up, quick,
quick spike. Next play like deep deep hook to Ted
(29:08):
Gin Jr. Spike it. Next play boom, ten yard cerll
t to Ted Gan. We had six seconds left, by
the way, six seconds boom, that's took four seconds. Pay
time out, two seconds, come out, keep a fifty nine
yard field goal. We win the game. Right, So, like I, man,
you're always learning. And that's why I love these situational
football moments in practice where like coach will just throw
(29:28):
out some crazy scenario, right, and all of a sudden,
you just have to think on your feet. You've got
to go out and man, maybe you fail in practice
and then you get and then you just send you
on this journey. Like I never want that moment to
happen again. In the game. I'm going to be ready
for that, and sure enough it pays dividends.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, you know, you didn't throw a lot of picks,
but many of the great Nameth, Peyton, Manning, uh Mahomes,
by the way, has hill On Cork an ugly one.
How do you compartmentalize? And Mahomes does it really well?
He just forgets it. Andrew Luck was good at this. Andrew.
You know, Andrew could throw a bad pick. I remember Drew.
(30:09):
I remember watching him live at usc against Stanford. He
threw a pick six against us. He at the coliseum.
It was bad, and he laughed. They showed it on
the screen. He came over, he was hitting his helmet.
The next drive he went ninety yards and you're like, man,
how do you forget that? Again? You didn't have a
lot of bad picks, but kind of take me through
like a Mahomes how he just shuts it off and
(30:30):
it's just like, all right, I would think that's so
hard to do.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
So, first off, I did throw a lot of picks
early in my career, and I'd say probably the last
year six to eight years, I got a lot a
lot better because at the end of the day, what
which you also learn as you become as a quarterback.
You become a master of probability. You understand when and
how to take chances. You understand matchups, you understand the
(30:59):
guys that you're going against. You understand you just kind
of know, right, like when you can take that chance
or when you can't. Right. But as far as just
the short term memory, look, that is the key to
playing the quarterback position because there are plenty of things
that are outside of your control that could affect your performance.
And then there's times where, man, you just make a
bonehead move or a bonehead decision and it's like, man,
(31:19):
where did that come from? And you have to be
able to put it behind you. There's a saying that
I always think about in football that's it's you're only
as good as your next performance. So whether it was
good or whether it was bad, the only thing that
matters is the next play, right, the next opportunity. And
I'd say the hardest part for me is when you're
in games and man, you just feel like you're out
of sync or out of rhythm, you know, like it's
(31:43):
just you're missing throws or whether and a lot of
times you can self correct, you know, just based on
kind of your knowledge of like where you miss Okay, well, man,
I missed high Okay, I must have. You know, I
overstrowed right, or I dropped my elbow right like. So
there's there's things that you can kind of fix on
the run. But for the most part, I would just
tell myself, like, trust your instincts and go fast and
(32:06):
and don't pass up open guys. Right. And when when
I got to that point, then I was a machine. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Drew Brees eligible for the Hall first ballot. He'll get
in twenty twenty six. I'm gonna guess right now. I'm
gonna guess that you're in New Orleans right now? Am
I wrong? Nah?
Speaker 3 (32:24):
I'm San Diego.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I was looking at your blinds and I thought those
look New Land.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah, that's that's her reflection in the mirror here. Yeah,
we got we got the Roman shades here to uh,
you know, I don't know anything block out the sun
sometimes
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Great scene the Manizuellas Drew Brees
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