December 4, 2024 • 42 mins
Colin defends the College Football Playoff Committee slotting 3-loss Alabama into the playoff mix ahead of 2-loss Miami. He believes Kyle Shanahan should be at the top of the list for the Bears as they search for a new head coach to pair with their franchise QB Caleb Williams. Plus, Fox Sports College Football analyst Joel Klatt joins the show to talk about Ohio State's loss to Michigan and what it means for head coach Ryan Day.
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This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Oh do we got a good one today live in
Los Angeles. It's the Herd wherever you may be and
however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part
of your day. Joel Clatt. One hour from now, all
the crazies and we love them. All the crazies in
college football are freaking out. Twelve team bracket comes out again,
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only a couple left before the real deal. December twentieth
is when it starts. So Jmack, everybody's freaking out, Oh
freaking out. How can you put Vama in? How can
you lead Miami out? Jobs? Terrible job. That's why I
want to start with this. In my life, I love
college foot It's always had one issue. One issue is
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that it's got a big game shortage because nobody wants
to lose games, so everybody ducks competition. I mean USC
this year open with LSU and close with Notre Dame.
That's like way above average. What you'd like to see
every year is Ohio State saying hey, let's go play
Texas and Oklahoma. But it doesn't happen. And so I
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have always believed I am going to give you extra
credit by just scheduling a game. You may lose it.
But if you're willing to schedule a game and you
lose it in overtime or it's close, it matters to
me who you play. In the NFL, you can't control
your schedule, but in college football, you control three or
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four of the games, and I'm paying attention. So twelve
team playoff comes out. The big criticism is, uh, Miami
two losses should be in and Bama three losses should
be out. So let's forget out of conference for a second.
First of all, Bama plays in a much better conference.
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Well that's not fair. Well it's not fair. Some people
are born rich and some people are born middle class.
It is what it is. The SEC those high schools
got the best players. They recruit the best player. Secs
better than Alabama plays in that. The ACC is a
hot tire fire, it's a mass it's awful. Second, Bama
beat Georgia. That's a big time win, you know, the
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big win for Miami seven and five Florida. That's our
big win. So Bama played in a better conference. Bama's
got a better win. Here's the other thing. Both of
Miami's losses have come in the last three weeks, so
it looks like they're a little wobbly right now. I
don't love that. The other thing, the ACC's off. So
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the three best teams in the ACC or SMU, Miami,
and Clemson. Bizarrely, they didn't play each other. They didn't
play each other, so all of them stockpiled wins over
terrible teams. Meanwhile, Bama is going through the SEC gauntlet.
And yeah, they went to Oklahoma, got caught flat footed.
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Oklahoma's got, you know, fifteen kids that are gonna play
in the NFL. Like you, sometimes you go to a game,
they're ready to play and you're not. And I don't
think Alabama's great. I think they're good. I just think Miami,
if they played them, is less good than Alabama's good.
And I don't want Alabama at three losses to get in,
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but they've got a better win. It's a better conference.
And by the way, Alabama against ranked teams this year
currently ranked teams three and one. Do you know what Miami,
Clemson and SMU are against ranked teams this year? Oh
to four? Stockpiled wins over nonsense. There are no great
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teams this year in college football. I think Texas is
really good, really good. I don't think they're great. Great
is the seventy five you know I would go Great
is the Tommy Fraser Cornhuskers, the Reggie Busch Trojans, the
Joe Burrow LSU team. There was a Miami team Butch
Davis assembled that was great. We've had about five or
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six great teams this year. I think we have won
very very very good team. Texas Oregon maybe that as well.
I'm not sure, but I think they could be. And
then it's a bunch of Ohio State and Penn State
and Alabama's and Tennessee's and Georgia's. But you're you're trying
to get me upset because two losses. These aren't standings.
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Even in the NFL, you can win a division. Somebody's
gonna win you know, the NFC South, and they may
be eight nine and then somebody's gonna be left out
with probably ten wins. That's the way it works in
pro sports and in college football. Where you play who
you play, it may not be your fault. Again, it's
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not your fault for a lot in life. It doesn't
make it untrue. And I would trust Alabama in a
big game over Miami because I think Kaylin Deboorr is
a better coach than Mario Cristobal, and I think with
a couple of weeks to prep, I take the better coach.
So it's not the end of the world, but better schedule,
better win, better against ranked teams, you know the other
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Let me just throw this out here. I always had
this theory. I know this just comes across as just
a terrible thing to say, But if I pay for
the wedding, I get to make the seating chart. Okay,
who pays for college football in the playoff? The networks,
so I wouldn't even have a problem if everything was
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even and you went down twenty different lists of record
home away, and it was even at the end. It's
a coin flow, and the network said, I'd rather take
the massive fan base of Alabama in over a Miami
team that gets twenty eight thousand for a home game.
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I pay for the wedding. I get to decide the
seeding chart. And right now, I mean in baseball, Major
League Baseball, you know who was really on Major League
Baseball for the pitch clock Fox? In ESPN, you know
who created that game in Europe, Phillies Matts Fox Field
the Dreams Fox, you know outfield Shift. They didn't listen
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to purists. Teaming networks pay the bills they get to
say in this stuff. The NFL's always understood that. I mean,
they change rules annually. You just make it a better
TV product. But and that's like the final box. That's
not the first box. But I'm not losing sleep because
two loss Miami may not get in in Alabama. Three
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loss and the toughest conference with a great coach is
gonna get it. If that's what we're losing sleepover a
couple of pretty good teams who have stubbed their toe,
I'm sorry. I don't need melatonin to sleep tonight. I'm
gonna be just fine. Joel Clatton one hour. Okay, I
saw this story. You know how some things are true?
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And you just and some people. And maybe it's just
a money thing that people don't want to spend. Maybe
these rich billionaire owners are cheap. Probably are that's why
they're billionaires. Right. But I saw Pro Football Talk had
a story this morning the Chicago Bears should call the
Niners about Kyle Shanahan. And I know what you're saying,
WHOA take a deep breath. Timing is everything. So first
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of all, let's establish this to be true. At any
one time in my life, there's been about four to
five rock star head coaches, like any industry, tech, law,
medicine football coaching. At any one time, the NFL's got
five rock stars. They're just better than everybbody else. Jim
Harbaugh to the Chargers, completely changed the franchise with the
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same roster. Sean Payton in Denver takes over Chuernoble. Now
they're going to make the playoffs. Sean McVay to the Rams,
dead franchise, double digit wins year one, rockstar Andy Reid
Chiefs are lost to the playoffs to a dynasty. Shanahan's
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considered in that class. They don't get to more about
Kyle later in the show. The only thing that amazes
me is that more people, more owners don't consider this.
Hello Harbaugh, McVeigh, Hello. I mean when the Niners were terrible,
they got Jim Harbaugh and then he left and they
got terrible, and they got Kyle Shanahan. Now we didn't
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know Shanahan was a rockstar head coach at the time,
but we knew he was a rockstar coordinator at the time.
He was the best coordinator in the league. And I
look at all these Bears candidates. Oh, Ben Johnson, he's
an OC. Let's be honest, little different guy, little quirky guy,
doesn't have the gravitas. If I had to guess, he
is great coordinator, not a head coach. That's my guest.
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Marcus Freeman at Notre Dame, Well, he's a great recruiter.
Oh yeah, that doesn't matter. In the NFL, he could be.
But I would give up multiple picks for Kyle Shanahan
because even first round picks, you don't really know what
you're getting. You don't, I mean, you really don't know
what you're getting after about the first eight picks, and
even sometimes in the first eight picks you're like, yeah,
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but eight practices in that doesn't work. You know what
you're getting with Kyle Shanahan. You're gonna get that run game,
the schemes. Now here's the utter thing, and you're thinking,
why would he leave? In my lifetime, there has been
one quality that smart people have shared, men and women.
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One quality, and it's not where you went to college,
it's not who you know. No, the smartest people, the Murdocks,
have been great at this. They get out of the
movie business at the perfect time, they get out of
the regional sports networks at the perfect time. The ability
to understand timing, okay, is really really the one thing
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in my life that highly successful people. Mark Cuban, by
the way, just sold his NBA franchise. He knows something right.
He was the guy that came in, the young, brash owner.
Nobody treated their players like Mark Cuban. He changed how
players were treated. He was ahead of the curve. Now
he's selling his team. Probably know something. Look at Kyle
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Shanahan's situation. Smart guy don't know, Kyle know many that do.
Smart guy about to have to pay Brock Purdy, who's
now a little small and hurt for the second time,
to compete again against Mahomes and Allen and Lamar and
Herbert and C. J. Stroud and Jalen Hurts brock Purty.
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You want to roll with that. You don't have a
trophy yet, that's your trophy quarterback. Secondly, Christian McCaffrey clearly,
and I love him, he is peaked. Third it's an old, expensive,
increasingly brittle roster. And here's Chicago coach fired, coach fired,
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coach fired, coach fired. Are the Bears smart enough to
look at the rams and go, look what McVeigh did?
This has a Tony Dungee to the colts field where
you had this surging young star quarterback. Tony's in Tampa
and says, I'm going to go up there and I'm
gonna get my side of the ball right and Tony
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Dungee demanding the perfect fit Shanahan of the Bears. My
only question is are the McCaskey smart enough to offer
it draft? Are you kidding me? Yeah? Let's see linebacker
or Kyle Shanahan tight end or change the franchise forever?
Not a tough call. J Mack, I told you this morning,
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got a good night's sleep, Ready to roll? My friend,
You're a fire getting off a couple of one liners.
They're chir noobyl reference. Well it was nicely does I mean,
and by the way, Peyton's great example. They have the
Russell Wilson mess. They have no momentum. They gave up
draft capital. By the end of last year, you were like, yeah,
Russell's actually back to being pretty good, good enough, the
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Steelers said we'll take him. Oh, by the way, and
now with draft cap, this is the thinnest roster Sean
Payton'll ever have. If they come out of the buy
and win their nine to five, they're making the playoffs
with a rookie quarterback in the division, with the current
dynasty in the division, with arguably the two best coaches
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in the sport Jim Harbaugh and Andy Reid, and a
huge dead cap hit don't fut in massive dead cap.
Impressive job by just the Bears have players, The Bears
have receivers. The Bears that what the Bears don't have
is a culture creator and a schematic genius.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I would give up.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I would give up multiple first round picks. I mean,
that's not bad.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
I still like my Marcus Freeman hot take a couple
by Notre Dame Buddies.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Stop Jason, we do not want to lose Marcus. We
don't know if it works. We don't know if he's
going to be an NFL coaches best way.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Hold on, hold on, What do we know about Kyle
Shanahan in fourth quarters?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I mean, he's been awful fourth quarters. The Bears could
just take wins the Bear. I'll tell you what, the
Bears would love to have a problem with you. We
keep blowing fourth quarter leads. They just like the lead
going into the fourth quarter. They got their issues are
We're getting blown out regularly? We're dysfunctional.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
You think he's leaving San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I'm telling you the single. If you could look at
the Murdock's history, who own this company Fox News? I
could argue their greatest skill is exits. So are you
treating build an exit? The movie industry collapsed, they got
out sold it to somebody else.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
So you feel like the Niners are the Titanic right
now they're sinking.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
No, I feel it's timing. I left a network. Wasn't
the Titanic. It was time. And I'm certainly not qualified
to conclude myself in any category of smart people, but
I'm saying is timing is a real thing. Don't fall
in love. Fall in like with everything but your family
and kids. Fall in like with stuff. The Niners. It's great,
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fall in like with the Niners. Coaches should never fall
in love with their billionaire owner because I got news
for you. Back to back losing seasons and a billionaire
owner is gonna jettison you. So I'm just saying that
if you look at what Chicago's never had a brilliant
offensive guy, Chicago's a huge brand. I mean it was
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just like Harbo went to LA's like it's in La.
I've got Herbert, I can be their first Super Bowl
winning coach tackle. I've got pass rushers, I got a bos,
I got this day. There are so many components of
the Bears that are the Chargers. They're like and so
you can look at it a team's history. What do
you want to change history? And I just think I
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think you have to look at it. A lot of
stuff sounds crazy. Kevin Durant goes from Okase to the
Warriors sounded crazy. Tom Brady Jettison's Belichick to go to
Tampa sounded crazy. Herbert's leaving his alma mater to go
to the Chargers. A lot of stuff sounds crazy.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
What do you think Shanahan's wife will say if he says, honey,
we're leaving the beautiful Bay Area, We're moving to Chicago.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Do you think his wife would say, can't wait? California
taxes thirteen percent, Chicago four point nine. Can't wait. It's
not like the winter weather in San Francisco's Palm Springs anyway. Hey,
you gotta wear gloves when it's fish. And by the way,
in the winter, he's inside anyway, he's coaching, He's not
out on the beach.
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Speaker 1 (16:02):
Joe Klatt forty five minutes from now. All sorts of
things to talk about. Drew Brees joining us two hours
from now. So Tom Brady the Goat was on the
show yesterday. They heard yesterday and bounced around a lot
of topics. But he went to Michigan obviously, and you know,
I think all of us that follow college football, it
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was a jaw dropping loss for Ohio State. Stacked roster
at home, better at quarterback, much better offense, solid defense,
losing to Michigan that could not throw the ball. They
did not exploit their best players wide receivers, and Tom
Brady talked about that Ryan Day Ohio State performance.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
If I looked at Ohio State strengths and we says
they have a great seven on seventeam, they got guys
that can throw the ball to in the second half,
they don't even target their best players. So to me,
it's like I may as well be out there playing
receiver for Ohio State. I can't run, I couldn't catch,
but it doesn't matter if you don't throw me the ball.
And I thought the best thing that coach Belichick did,
and there was a lot of them, was he would
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clearly define for offense, defense, and special teams, this is
how we're going to win the game this week. You
gotta have some formula for what you're trying to accomplish.
What's the bullseye that we need to hit? So why
don't we just dial it down and dial it back
to the only the specific ones where best players are
going to touch the ball doing the best things that
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they do. And we're going to go out like that.
If we lose, we lose. If we win you know, great,
but we're not going to lose doing things that we
don't do well.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
And it's not that Ohio State can't run the football.
But as many pointed out, Ryan Day hates the label
that Michigan now is the program that's physical and in
the Midwest that just lands hard for Ryan Day. He
does not want to be known as the coach that
has created a softer program. But the truth is, and
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I've talked about this to Urban Meyer on thishh when
you recruit the best receivers in the country every year
in Alabama and Ohio State do it does change. It
does change how you play. By the way, Andy Reid
went to Philadelphia, blue collar Philadelphia, and he was the
coach that started to run on a first down and
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started to pass on third and two. Andy Reid went
into tough guy Philadelphia and he said, you know what,
I'm gonna look at Donovan McNabb and my wide receivers
and the culture changes in football. We're gonna pass the
ball on third and two. And he got to five
NFC championships because that's what he thought worked best for
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the culture changes and his personnel. He had a pretty
good quarterback and so you play to your personnel. And
if you recruit the best wide receivers in the world
in college football, and Ohio State does, that's what you are.
Don't be ashamed of it. If you want to stop
recruiting him, fine, But fewer and fewer kids in America
play in high school football want to be running backs
because their careers are shorter and you make less money.
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The most talented high school football players and the smart
ones want to be quarterbacks, ed rushers, wide receivers, so
it's hard to find great running backs. The state of California,
on an annual basis, thirty eight million people will have
two elite running backs two they'll have one hundred Division
one wide receivers. Kids are smart, they know where the
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money is. So an Ohio State recruised that position better
than anybody. The other thing that hurts is Ohio State
is in a weird, weird spot where Ryan Day beats
everybody except Michigan. He's one and four against Michigan. He's
sixty three and two against everybody else. And so when
you have a rival like a Duke Carolina in basketball,
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Ohio State Michigan, you gotta beat your rival. When they're vulnerable,
and this was the vulnerable year for Michigan. Not good
at quarterback. Game was in Columbus, Harbad just left and
they gave it to a coordinator. Remember, Ohio State dominated
this thing from like two thousand four to twenty nineteen.
They dominated this rival. They were vulnerable. One year, the
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Luke Fickle year, Michigan beat them, but Ohio State with Trussel,
Ohio State with Urban always beat Michigan. And then that
that one wobbly year with Luke Fickle, Michigan beat them.
This was the beat Michigan year. Because next year, the
game's in an arbor. Next year they have a five star,
best high school quarterback in the country and momentum. So
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now Michigan's in Ohio State's head. The game goes to
an arbor, and Michigan's got the better quarterback, which you
know matters. So it's it's a weird spot. If Ohio
State loses its first game, and right now in the
playoff they play Tennessee, my pick before the season to
win the Natty and they lose that game. I wouldn't
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fire Ryan Day because I think he's a good coach.
Be careful about firing good coaches unless you have a
great coach in the offing, and I'm not sure they do.
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Speaker 1 (21:03):
All right, here we go. What a weekend of college
football and it just starts. Now the season's getting crazy.
Let's bring in the voice of college football, Joel Clatt
to the program. Let's hear it for Joel. Dude breeze later, Brady, yesterday,
Joel Clatt s were just all stars.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Now, I will admit I like the buck guys to
win that game. It caught me a little offstart when
you were broadcasting that game, And because I was sitting
there thinking, what is Clatt thinking? When you got to
the late second quarter, were you thinking to yourself, what's
Ohio State doing? I mean yes, and I was saying
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that on the air a couple of times. But but
late in the second quarter, remember in the two minute series,
right before the half, they finally started using tempo, some
vertical routes and they went right down the field. And
in a few of the series, let's remember in the
they were able to go right down the field, they
were stopped on fourth down on one of those, and
so they were gaining yards throwing the football and that's
where their advantage was. And my conversations, they knew that,
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you know, they understood that, and and the first half
played out, they go in with a with a tie game,
it's ten to ten, and I'm thinking to myself, they
get the ball, and what they just saw and learned
in that last series was they're gonna come by right
back to the temple.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
But they didn't.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Well, but they danged really well, not in the first series,
and I just I got to tell you, it wasn't
until after the game that it really dawned on me.
I think that they were playing, you know, around Will Howard,
who was maybe banged up in that game, and after
the early interception, I think that they got spooked a
little bit in terms of the way that he was
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seeing the field. And then I think that they felt
like their defense just would not give up a score
because remember at that point, it's ten ten and the
only reason that Michigan scored was first and goal inside
the five after the interception, and then they get a
short punt and they get the ball and they go
five yards and kick a fifty plus yard field goal.
And so I think that Ryan and Chip in a
lot of ways, looked at that, looked at the way
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their quarterback was playing, looked at the way their defense
was playing. And I think that in the third quarter
they thought to themselves, one score wins this. I thought,
field goal wins this, And that's the way they called
the game in the second half. I think, you know,
it's interesting, what if he loses in the first round
of the playoffs. Oh man, Now, now I wouldn't fire it,
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but I do think we can say this. When you
stacked him up against Harbaugh, he felt like the second
best coach in the field. That's okay, most of the
NFL does. So let's not overreact that Harball beat him.
Let's not overreact to that Belichick beat Andy Reid. Andy
Reid beat Belichick. Sometimes you lose the great coach. That's
Tom Coughlin, by the way, who should be in the
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Hall of Fame. It's idiotic that he's not beat Belichick
twice in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Twice.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Great coaches beat great, by the way, Belichick for a
year struggle with Andy Reid even before he had Mahomes.
It's okay to lose to Harba. And this is what
I would tell Ohio State fans, just take the Harbor out.
He's arguably next to Belichick and Read and Sean Payton's
best coaching in the league, football and on the planet.
But then there's a Clemson loss, and then there's a
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Georgia loss. So in Ohio state's not reasonable, they're irrational.
Do you think there's a chance he gets fired if
he lost to Tennessee in the first round.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I don't think so, just because I'm only going based
on what their athletic director has said, Ross Byork. Remember
Ross is fairly new to the job. This is really
his first full year on the job as athletic director
at Ohio State, and I don't think that he wants
to go down that road. I also think and I
know that, you know, people say like, oh, you know,
everyone has money, but it would cost a significant amount
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of money. Probably you're looking at upwards of forty five
to fifty five million dollars just to buy out the
current coaching staff. You would need to then go and
hire somebody and then spend money in the nil you're
looking at an now they're twenty to twenty five million
to do that, So you're you're in the neighborhood of
seventy five to eighty five million dollars to make that decision.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yeah, And I don't think that that's.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I don't think he has the appetite for it, and
I don't think that that would be the right move.
I really don't. And this is the other part of
this is like I don't believe that I don't think
that this is going to last forever. I think that
that Ryan is.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
A very good coach.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I think that there's a mental block with Michigan right now,
and the game plan on Saturday I think was evident
of that, but there were obviously other factors. And this
feels like something that when he gets over the humps,
it's gonna be big. I mean, Harbad didn't win over
Urban Meyer, and they stuck with him when they thought
they would fire him in the COVID year, they stuck
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with him, and look at what happened. You look at
the history of college football, and what you'll see is
that most often, even the greatest coaches in the history
of our sport have taken a while to win their championship.
It took Osbourne.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Quite a while. It took Bowden quite a while.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
You know, it's very rare that you get these guys
that win it right away, like Bob Stoops or Larry Coker.
It's generally the opposite guys take a while. Urban Meyer
took a while. Saban it took a while as a
head coach in order to get to that point and
then eventually win the national championship. It's okay for people
to learn on the job. I do think I said this.
If you go look at Saban, he starts at Michigan State,
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I mean, I mean, he averaged seven wins or something.
Then he goes to LSU and he goes to Miami,
doesn't work, maybe could have eventually, and then he goes
to Alabama. First year they lost to Louisianam and row
at home. The second year they got boat raced by
Utah and the Sugar Bowl well, and they lost to
Florida that year. As an undefeated, they couldn't beat Tim
Tebow and urban Meyer. So it took a while. I mean,
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Nick Saban didn't win a title until he's you know,
well into his head coaching career. So I'm with you,
But I also understand like that that fan base is irrational,
There's no question about it. Yeah. And the problem, and
I think Ryan would even admit this is like Saturday
was not great, was not great at all because they
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allowed Michigan to get in their head to play the game,
the only game that they could win. Yeah, there was
one out of ten paths for that Michigan team to
beat this Ohio State team, and they allowed that path
to take place. I don't want to go doctor Phil here,
but I've got a theory a little bit on this.
So there's certain things you can say to a coastal elite,
not that I am one or no any but if
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you said to me, ooh, coastal elite, I'd be like, yeah,
seventy two degrees today, how's it in Indyn't. I don't
care if you call me to coastal elite either the
New Yorkers. I've been called that my whole life, and
I'm like, I love the Midwest. I fly over it
all the time. So but in the Midwest. But in
the Midwest, if you say to somebody you're soft who
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they don't like that we are soft out here?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
I'm soft.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I am took. I take work off for an ice
cream headache. I will take a day off any day,
But Midwestern people and Ryan Day was told the last
three years you're soft. Ohio State saw you can't run
the ball, and it got into his head. Yeah, And
I think if you told Lincoln Riley that, or you
told nobody cares, you know, I think that play he
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was coaching that game to prove a point. Well, I
know that that's the way it looks. I don't think
that he was coaching to prove a point. If you
gave him like if if Will Howard is seeing the
football field really well and playing well, they throw the
ball all over the place that that game was called
because of the way the game happened, I don't think
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it was. So I'm just I'm just disagreeing. I don't
think he's there like we're going to prove, we're going
work tough. I believe that the circumstances of the way
his defense was playing and the way his quarterback was
playing led to the way that the game is called.
And the evidence is the third quarter. So in the
third quarter, they've got first and ten at the nineteen
yard line with about six minutes six twenty two left.
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That series ends in a real bad interception, yes, really
bad interception. Then immediately Davis Warren throws them an interception
and Caleb Downs picks it off. It's the sixteen yard line.
Now it's first and ten at the sixteen yard line
and your quarterback just threw a really bad interception.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
And guess what they did.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Played for a field goal because they felt like a
field goal was going to win the game at that point,
and they missed the field goal. So I thought that's
what that was more what happened, rather than this this
narrative of toughness and softness and everything like that. I
will say though generally speaking, it does feel. It does
feel at times like Michigan is the guy in the
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lunch room that's like, hit me in the stomach, and
then Ohio State is like the fast, you know, popular
kid that has all this skill and gets baited into
a stomach punching contest with like o'doyle, you know o'doyle rules.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
And it's like, that's the way it feels.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
That's a good one.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
So I'm just gonna approach the nothing bothers me about
the twelve team playoff. I would I deally not like
to have a three loss team in there. Ideally. Okay,
I'm not an idealist. Okay, I'm not like. I work
in radio TV. I understand the game. I'm a bad
segment from working at Costco.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
So my point is.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Wait, would you be a greeter?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Oh, I'd be the best. You would be the best
greet Ye bad reason? Can you imagine Colin greeting at
the at Costco? And he because you would just be
like judging people as they walk by. I don't like
your shoes. That his walk is weird right there. I
don't think he's gonna get the sale. You know, I
can be a little judge, That's okay. So the point
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is on this, and you're one of these reasonable people.
I tried it, always tries to throw a life preserver
to the sad. You're very empathetic. I am not. Okay,
I'm gonna call it out. Hey, Miami, you plan a
lousy conference. Your last two, your two losses, you don't
beat any of You don't have a good win. Yeah, okay,
Alabama's got three losses. Ideally, I don't like that, So
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I don't think you should have two mulligans. But they
beat Georgia, and you know, losing Oklahoma's not the worst
thing in the world. They also were three and one
against ranked teams, so I don't like them having an
extra mulligan. There's not a great option. Let's start try there.
So I'm taking over Miami is a better option, I think.
I think based on the strength of schedule, based on
what Miami did within their ACC play they had a
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very favorable ACC schedule, or they didn't have to play
many of the any other kind see, there you go,
there you go, greeting, I did that. I'm morphed right
in the street.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
You did.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
That's it, the snarky greader. Bama's resume is not great.
But to me, the bubble was those four teams from
eleven to fourteen. So it's Bama in South Carolina, it's
Ole miss and it's Miami. And if you put Alabama
head to head resume for resume with all of those
bubble teams, they win the argument. There you go. I
did this on my program for today's show, and I
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know people don't like it. I understand that, and I'm
not saying that this is a great option. I'm just
saying that in an argument. Bama wins those arguments. Yes,
Miami does not have a ranked win. You can point
at that, and you can say they're also losing at
the wrong time, losing two of their last three games. Yeah,
this is this is not a great option. And I
don't think Alabama's a great team. I don't think that
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they have a chance to win the national champions But
in a resume argument with Miami, they win that argument.
I think that that would be the main point. Okay,
so this whole flag planting, yeah, at the end of
the game. Okay, so people overreact everything. And my take
is they're young people. These rivalry games. It's easy to sit,
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you know, a thousand miles away and go, what are
these hooligans doing? If you live in Columbus or Ann Arbor,
this is a big deal for these kids. It's not
just a big deal culin. By the way, like, think
about think about it just for a moment. Are you
and I kind of saying it happens. I'm going to
be similar with you here, think about it for just
a moment. Why do we love college football? Passion? Passion,
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wild tribalism. Yes, we feel regionalism. We love it as fans.
As members of those institutions, we are Gators, seminals, buck guys, Wolverines, Buffaloes,
wherever you went to school, I don't even know, scream
and Eagles.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Thank you. Yeah, see there you go.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
You know why it is because we feel like like
part of our identity was forged at those places. This
is a real thing. This is a real thing. And
in professional sports you can't say that. You can't say like,
I am a cowboy. I mean, there are some that
try and they're lunatics. And that's what's so great about
college football. And so here's the problem with that is
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that it makes it an incredibly emotional sport. Once it's emotional,
then it can go right to the redline, in particular
in rivalries. Now you've got like family rivalries, right, You've
got like blood thick right is going on. They go
back decades and decades and decades. So if it overheats
a little bit, I'm not going to throw the baby
out with the basketball kid. It's part of what is
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college football. Now. Do I love it? No? Do I
wish that it would take? Do I wish that this
would happen?
Speaker 4 (34:16):
No?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Is it ugly for the sport at times. Yes.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
However, However, if I'm going to love the sport because
it goes up to that line, I cannot be upset
when it inches over that line. And I'm not going
to chastise the individuals say for being emotional in that situation.
I know what it feels like to loose to your
rival at home. I know what it feels like to
beat your rival on the road. It's one is elation
and the other is the depth of depression that you
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can't even fathom. Why, because it's tribal, that's how we identify.
So folks, if you're mad at eighteen to twenty two
year olds, yeah, being emotional about what happens at the
end of the game, I think your your anger is misplaced.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, we agree on that. So it makes me rethink
my entire line of.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, hey, I know what it's like to lose an
inner mural game over time. Yeah, let's see, I went sideways.
It's I'll tell you what. I didn't sleep for half
a day. I mean, And by the way, what's the fix.
It's like, should we not have flags? Okay, but it's
like Texas planted their flag on Michigan's Field. Earlier this year,
Baker Mayfield did it, you know, famously at Ohio State. Again,
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this this stuff happens, Okay, I don't know, man. So
I was, uh, you know, as I'm prone to do.
I was at the big game USC, Notre Dame, so
and uh sharing you know, I try to add something.
I just don't go to the game like you and
then exit with a paycheck. I try to add something.
Oh interesting, Yeah, maybe get on a headset. So anyway,
(35:50):
here's my thing with Lincoln Riley. It's not the sixth
and six. It's not that.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Really.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
I don't love that because I think life has momentum
and inertia. It could be six and six and you
lost your star quarterback. Here's what bothers me. Today's recruiting day,
Alabama is going to sign more kids from southern California
than USC.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Yeah, that's a huge problem.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
That is an issue, is that there's this preciousness.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
That's Lincoln y. I'll just say that.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
It's like that is a way bigger issue than going
six and six. That's my point. It's there's this thing,
you know, I and again I don't want to bully
people that are six and six. I think Brian Kelly's
a great coach.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Bad year.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Well and SC I don't like their lack of connectivity
to the local, dominant, great high school. I'm telling you, man,
that's the problem. This is what's this is what's wild
is that you could build a top four college football team,
probably the national champion, and all you would have to
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do is go with a radius of i'll call it
fifty miles from USC and you can win the national championship.
I think you I've always believed to get some of
your I think there are other parts of the country
that deliver big defensive linemen. Yeah, we eat too well
out here or something.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
I don't know what it is that would be an area.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Although guests who just put together one of the great
defensive line performances I've ever seen from an individual. Mason
Graham from a Servite from from Servit, California, and he
was the LA County nine player of the year in
the heavyweight wrestling and she had no interest in playing.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
He Michigan.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yeah, and he almost single handedly, along with Kenneth Grant
with evens the tackle, he almost single handedly beat Ohio
State because Ohio State decided they were going to run
the football right on. He was unblockable. Single teams, double
teams didn't matter. And he's from Servite and it's like
what he wasn't interested? Smart kid. That's a problem to
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Jim Harb.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
But that's a problem. It is. That's a problem.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I'll throw this out. Let me, let me, let me
end it here, put a bow on it. It's good
to see you. It's great to see you because a
lot of times you come here and I know I'm
gonna have to be hard on you.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Was it today one of those days? No, I thought
it was pretty nice. I said, when I agree with you,
you think no. No, You and I.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Disagreed a lot when well, when I threw that pretty
accurate theory on Ryan Day, Midwest were soft, it got
into his head.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Yeah but that was just wrong. Oh okay, sure you bet.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Okay, well the cappin's infrequently, but all on it. Okay,
let's do this is that here's the best part. So
you're not like this, But a lot of people are
like this. They don't like change. I can remember when
I was a kid and the speed limit was fifty
five to sixty five. Oh, I had somebody in my family.
We're all gonna die, and the manufacturer said, let's build
better cars. No, yeah, I mean the auto bonn had
(38:47):
a better safety record than our freeways and they're driving
one hundred.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
The bottom line is society changes. People overreact baseball. Oh
you put in a pitcher's clock or the tenants up ratings,
up games faster. It's better for the sport. We just
Fox just broke records in baseball, and they made a
bunch of changes. They're going to make another one, the
Golden at bat. I love that. Okay. So my point
is all this nil and transfer portal, it's a lot
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of motion for college football. But here's the great part
about it, the unintended benefit that I didn't see coming.
It eliminates great team. That's right, because Georgia, Texas, Ohio State,
Notre Dame. They get the they stockpile talent. Well, now,
now all these George, all these Loubels or Oregons or
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Washington's a UCLA or whoever it is, has money goes.
Do you want to be a backup left tackle? You're
a five star kid, come start for us in LA.
This is exactly right, and it's it's an unintended benefit.
Is that you're like the Bama stuff. Congrats to Bama.
That's not happening. Ever, again, I don't think so either.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I think the closest thing that we've got to a
team that could really dominate for a few years is
Texas right now with the way that they've they've built
their roster. But talented players are unwilling to be backups.
I mean, that's just the way college football is, and
and before they were forced to be backups if they
wanted to play for the teams that could compete for
to win the national championship because that was such a
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narrow scope of who could actually compete for and win
national championships. So now you expanded out. So I'm just
talking about the expansion of the playoffs and how that
drives parody. But then you also have now resources in
terms of how teams and programs all over the country
can spend money on nil. The transfer portal allows for
that freedom to go to different places. And now all
of a sudden, you've got teams like Indiana in the
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playoff and Arizona State playing for a right to go
to the playoff, in Iowa State for the right to
go to the playoffs. I watched the thirteen one hundred
over times in Georgia Georgia Tech. I'm still not sure
who the better team is. That's one hundred per sist.
Georgia Tech was an engineering school, and I'm like, I
think they're better than Georgia. There is the peak, so
the best teams can be has been brought down just
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a little bit, and the middle and the middle has
has risen, and college football has never been better because
of it. And now all of a sudden, the regular
season has been the best best regular season that I
can remember, not as far as competitiveness.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Now you can say.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Like, well there's you know, Georgia is not great, and
this is this is not good. Yes, it's fantastic. Actually,
it's fantastic that even Ohio State, with this roster that
we all thought was the best roster that we had
seen in a long time, is not infallible. Look at
look at Oregon is undefeated. Narrowly beat Boyse State, that's right,
narrowly beat Idaho. It's true, it's great.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
So I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
That's why I look at this playoff and I think
that there could be some real chaos. I think there
could be some real chaos. I think that there's gonna
be a couple of first round matchups yeap.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Pending the way that this weekend goes. Think about this.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
If Oregon beats Penn State, they fall probably behind Georgia
and Ohio State. If Texas beats Georgia, they probably sit
in there right there. That means I think that we're
likely to get I think that there's a good chance
that we get some sort of like Tennessee at Penn State,
Alabama at Ohio State, oh probably Indiana at Georgia. That's
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the way the first round kind of looks. And if
Clemson's able to beat SMU, it would be Clemson at
Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
I believe that's going to be the first round of
the college football playoffs.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
I'm glad we ended on a good spot. You can
be a bit of a grudge holder.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
You know, we got there.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
It takes a while, but you know, you dismissed about
thirty forty fifty percent of what I said, and yet
and yet we.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Look at it. You know, if I disagree so well,
I feel like.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
We hugged at the end of it. It's a arrive
home in a good move. It's a model for America, right,
that's a good way to put it. Yeah, the show
is and this segment well more so this segment. Okay, sure,
but sure even on the way out, it's got to
be snarky. Okay, got a Costco greeter against the King
of snark. You choose America who you like, because I
know I've made my choice.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Slowy walks it. Nice sweater, it'd be that. Actually, we
should film it. This would be amazing.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Colin is a greeter. Let's not go there, Okay, Live
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Oh do we got a good one today live in
Los Angeles. It's the Herd wherever you may be and
however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part
of your day. Joel Clatt. One hour from now, all
the crazies and we love them. All the crazies in
college football are freaking out. Twelve team bracket comes out again,
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only a couple left before the real deal. December twentieth
is when it starts. So Jmack, everybody's freaking out, Oh
freaking out. How can you put Vama in? How can
you lead Miami out? Jobs? Terrible job. That's why I
want to start with this. In my life, I love
college foot It's always had one issue. One issue is
(01:12):
that it's got a big game shortage because nobody wants
to lose games, so everybody ducks competition. I mean USC
this year open with LSU and close with Notre Dame.
That's like way above average. What you'd like to see
every year is Ohio State saying hey, let's go play
Texas and Oklahoma. But it doesn't happen. And so I
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have always believed I am going to give you extra
credit by just scheduling a game. You may lose it.
But if you're willing to schedule a game and you
lose it in overtime or it's close, it matters to
me who you play. In the NFL, you can't control
your schedule, but in college football, you control three or
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four of the games, and I'm paying attention. So twelve
team playoff comes out. The big criticism is, uh, Miami
two losses should be in and Bama three losses should
be out. So let's forget out of conference for a second.
First of all, Bama plays in a much better conference.
(02:18):
Well that's not fair. Well it's not fair. Some people
are born rich and some people are born middle class.
It is what it is. The SEC those high schools
got the best players. They recruit the best player. Secs
better than Alabama plays in that. The ACC is a
hot tire fire, it's a mass it's awful. Second, Bama
beat Georgia. That's a big time win, you know, the
(02:40):
big win for Miami seven and five Florida. That's our
big win. So Bama played in a better conference. Bama's
got a better win. Here's the other thing. Both of
Miami's losses have come in the last three weeks, so
it looks like they're a little wobbly right now. I
don't love that. The other thing, the ACC's off. So
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the three best teams in the ACC or SMU, Miami,
and Clemson. Bizarrely, they didn't play each other. They didn't
play each other, so all of them stockpiled wins over
terrible teams. Meanwhile, Bama is going through the SEC gauntlet.
And yeah, they went to Oklahoma, got caught flat footed.
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Oklahoma's got, you know, fifteen kids that are gonna play
in the NFL. Like you, sometimes you go to a game,
they're ready to play and you're not. And I don't
think Alabama's great. I think they're good. I just think Miami,
if they played them, is less good than Alabama's good.
And I don't want Alabama at three losses to get in,
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but they've got a better win. It's a better conference.
And by the way, Alabama against ranked teams this year
currently ranked teams three and one. Do you know what Miami,
Clemson and SMU are against ranked teams this year? Oh
to four? Stockpiled wins over nonsense. There are no great
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teams this year in college football. I think Texas is
really good, really good. I don't think they're great. Great
is the seventy five you know I would go Great
is the Tommy Fraser Cornhuskers, the Reggie Busch Trojans, the
Joe Burrow LSU team. There was a Miami team Butch
Davis assembled that was great. We've had about five or
(04:26):
six great teams this year. I think we have won
very very very good team. Texas Oregon maybe that as well.
I'm not sure, but I think they could be. And
then it's a bunch of Ohio State and Penn State
and Alabama's and Tennessee's and Georgia's. But you're you're trying
to get me upset because two losses. These aren't standings.
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Even in the NFL, you can win a division. Somebody's
gonna win you know, the NFC South, and they may
be eight nine and then somebody's gonna be left out
with probably ten wins. That's the way it works in
pro sports and in college football. Where you play who
you play, it may not be your fault. Again, it's
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not your fault for a lot in life. It doesn't
make it untrue. And I would trust Alabama in a
big game over Miami because I think Kaylin Deboorr is
a better coach than Mario Cristobal, and I think with
a couple of weeks to prep, I take the better coach.
So it's not the end of the world, but better schedule,
better win, better against ranked teams, you know the other
(05:28):
Let me just throw this out here. I always had
this theory. I know this just comes across as just
a terrible thing to say, But if I pay for
the wedding, I get to make the seating chart. Okay,
who pays for college football in the playoff? The networks,
so I wouldn't even have a problem if everything was
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even and you went down twenty different lists of record
home away, and it was even at the end. It's
a coin flow, and the network said, I'd rather take
the massive fan base of Alabama in over a Miami
team that gets twenty eight thousand for a home game.
(06:10):
I pay for the wedding. I get to decide the
seeding chart. And right now, I mean in baseball, Major
League Baseball, you know who was really on Major League
Baseball for the pitch clock Fox? In ESPN, you know
who created that game in Europe, Phillies Matts Fox Field
the Dreams Fox, you know outfield Shift. They didn't listen
(06:36):
to purists. Teaming networks pay the bills they get to
say in this stuff. The NFL's always understood that. I mean,
they change rules annually. You just make it a better
TV product. But and that's like the final box. That's
not the first box. But I'm not losing sleep because
two loss Miami may not get in in Alabama. Three
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loss and the toughest conference with a great coach is
gonna get it. If that's what we're losing sleepover a
couple of pretty good teams who have stubbed their toe,
I'm sorry. I don't need melatonin to sleep tonight. I'm
gonna be just fine. Joel Clatton one hour. Okay, I
saw this story. You know how some things are true?
(07:17):
And you just and some people. And maybe it's just
a money thing that people don't want to spend. Maybe
these rich billionaire owners are cheap. Probably are that's why
they're billionaires. Right. But I saw Pro Football Talk had
a story this morning the Chicago Bears should call the
Niners about Kyle Shanahan. And I know what you're saying,
WHOA take a deep breath. Timing is everything. So first
(07:42):
of all, let's establish this to be true. At any
one time in my life, there's been about four to
five rock star head coaches, like any industry, tech, law,
medicine football coaching. At any one time, the NFL's got
five rock stars. They're just better than everybbody else. Jim
Harbaugh to the Chargers, completely changed the franchise with the
(08:05):
same roster. Sean Payton in Denver takes over Chuernoble. Now
they're going to make the playoffs. Sean McVay to the Rams,
dead franchise, double digit wins year one, rockstar Andy Reid
Chiefs are lost to the playoffs to a dynasty. Shanahan's
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considered in that class. They don't get to more about
Kyle later in the show. The only thing that amazes
me is that more people, more owners don't consider this.
Hello Harbaugh, McVeigh, Hello. I mean when the Niners were terrible,
they got Jim Harbaugh and then he left and they
got terrible, and they got Kyle Shanahan. Now we didn't
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know Shanahan was a rockstar head coach at the time,
but we knew he was a rockstar coordinator at the time.
He was the best coordinator in the league. And I
look at all these Bears candidates. Oh, Ben Johnson, he's
an OC. Let's be honest, little different guy, little quirky guy,
doesn't have the gravitas. If I had to guess, he
is great coordinator, not a head coach. That's my guest.
(09:10):
Marcus Freeman at Notre Dame, Well, he's a great recruiter.
Oh yeah, that doesn't matter. In the NFL, he could be.
But I would give up multiple picks for Kyle Shanahan
because even first round picks, you don't really know what
you're getting. You don't, I mean, you really don't know
what you're getting after about the first eight picks, and
even sometimes in the first eight picks you're like, yeah,
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but eight practices in that doesn't work. You know what
you're getting with Kyle Shanahan. You're gonna get that run game,
the schemes. Now here's the utter thing, and you're thinking,
why would he leave? In my lifetime, there has been
one quality that smart people have shared, men and women.
(09:56):
One quality, and it's not where you went to college,
it's not who you know. No, the smartest people, the Murdocks,
have been great at this. They get out of the
movie business at the perfect time, they get out of
the regional sports networks at the perfect time. The ability
to understand timing, okay, is really really the one thing
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in my life that highly successful people. Mark Cuban, by
the way, just sold his NBA franchise. He knows something right.
He was the guy that came in, the young, brash owner.
Nobody treated their players like Mark Cuban. He changed how
players were treated. He was ahead of the curve. Now
he's selling his team. Probably know something. Look at Kyle
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Shanahan's situation. Smart guy don't know, Kyle know many that do.
Smart guy about to have to pay Brock Purdy, who's
now a little small and hurt for the second time,
to compete again against Mahomes and Allen and Lamar and
Herbert and C. J. Stroud and Jalen Hurts brock Purty.
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You want to roll with that. You don't have a
trophy yet, that's your trophy quarterback. Secondly, Christian McCaffrey clearly,
and I love him, he is peaked. Third it's an old, expensive,
increasingly brittle roster. And here's Chicago coach fired, coach fired,
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coach fired, coach fired. Are the Bears smart enough to
look at the rams and go, look what McVeigh did?
This has a Tony Dungee to the colts field where
you had this surging young star quarterback. Tony's in Tampa
and says, I'm going to go up there and I'm
gonna get my side of the ball right and Tony
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Dungee demanding the perfect fit Shanahan of the Bears. My
only question is are the McCaskey smart enough to offer
it draft? Are you kidding me? Yeah? Let's see linebacker
or Kyle Shanahan tight end or change the franchise forever?
Not a tough call. J Mack, I told you this morning,
(12:13):
got a good night's sleep, Ready to roll? My friend,
You're a fire getting off a couple of one liners.
They're chir noobyl reference. Well it was nicely does I mean,
and by the way, Peyton's great example. They have the
Russell Wilson mess. They have no momentum. They gave up
draft capital. By the end of last year, you were like, yeah,
Russell's actually back to being pretty good, good enough, the
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Steelers said we'll take him. Oh, by the way, and
now with draft cap, this is the thinnest roster Sean
Payton'll ever have. If they come out of the buy
and win their nine to five, they're making the playoffs
with a rookie quarterback in the division, with the current
dynasty in the division, with arguably the two best coaches
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in the sport Jim Harbaugh and Andy Reid, and a
huge dead cap hit don't fut in massive dead cap.
Impressive job by just the Bears have players, The Bears
have receivers. The Bears that what the Bears don't have
is a culture creator and a schematic genius.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I would give up.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I would give up multiple first round picks. I mean,
that's not bad.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
I still like my Marcus Freeman hot take a couple
by Notre Dame Buddies.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Stop Jason, we do not want to lose Marcus. We
don't know if it works. We don't know if he's
going to be an NFL coaches best way.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Hold on, hold on, What do we know about Kyle
Shanahan in fourth quarters?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I mean, he's been awful fourth quarters. The Bears could
just take wins the Bear. I'll tell you what, the
Bears would love to have a problem with you. We
keep blowing fourth quarter leads. They just like the lead
going into the fourth quarter. They got their issues are
We're getting blown out regularly? We're dysfunctional.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
You think he's leaving San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I'm telling you the single. If you could look at
the Murdock's history, who own this company Fox News? I
could argue their greatest skill is exits. So are you
treating build an exit? The movie industry collapsed, they got
out sold it to somebody else.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
So you feel like the Niners are the Titanic right
now they're sinking.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
No, I feel it's timing. I left a network. Wasn't
the Titanic. It was time. And I'm certainly not qualified
to conclude myself in any category of smart people, but
I'm saying is timing is a real thing. Don't fall
in love. Fall in like with everything but your family
and kids. Fall in like with stuff. The Niners. It's great,
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fall in like with the Niners. Coaches should never fall
in love with their billionaire owner because I got news
for you. Back to back losing seasons and a billionaire
owner is gonna jettison you. So I'm just saying that
if you look at what Chicago's never had a brilliant
offensive guy, Chicago's a huge brand. I mean it was
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just like Harbo went to LA's like it's in La.
I've got Herbert, I can be their first Super Bowl
winning coach tackle. I've got pass rushers, I got a bos,
I got this day. There are so many components of
the Bears that are the Chargers. They're like and so
you can look at it a team's history. What do
you want to change history? And I just think I
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think you have to look at it. A lot of
stuff sounds crazy. Kevin Durant goes from Okase to the
Warriors sounded crazy. Tom Brady Jettison's Belichick to go to
Tampa sounded crazy. Herbert's leaving his alma mater to go
to the Chargers. A lot of stuff sounds crazy.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
What do you think Shanahan's wife will say if he says, honey,
we're leaving the beautiful Bay Area, We're moving to Chicago.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Do you think his wife would say, can't wait? California
taxes thirteen percent, Chicago four point nine. Can't wait. It's
not like the winter weather in San Francisco's Palm Springs anyway. Hey,
you gotta wear gloves when it's fish. And by the way,
in the winter, he's inside anyway, he's coaching, He's not
out on the beach.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
in noon Easter nin a em Pacific on Fox Sports
Radios one and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Joe Klatt forty five minutes from now. All sorts of
things to talk about. Drew Brees joining us two hours
from now. So Tom Brady the Goat was on the
show yesterday. They heard yesterday and bounced around a lot
of topics. But he went to Michigan obviously, and you know,
I think all of us that follow college football, it
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was a jaw dropping loss for Ohio State. Stacked roster
at home, better at quarterback, much better offense, solid defense,
losing to Michigan that could not throw the ball. They
did not exploit their best players wide receivers, and Tom
Brady talked about that Ryan Day Ohio State performance.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
If I looked at Ohio State strengths and we says
they have a great seven on seventeam, they got guys
that can throw the ball to in the second half,
they don't even target their best players. So to me,
it's like I may as well be out there playing
receiver for Ohio State. I can't run, I couldn't catch,
but it doesn't matter if you don't throw me the ball.
And I thought the best thing that coach Belichick did,
and there was a lot of them, was he would
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clearly define for offense, defense, and special teams, this is
how we're going to win the game this week. You
gotta have some formula for what you're trying to accomplish.
What's the bullseye that we need to hit? So why
don't we just dial it down and dial it back
to the only the specific ones where best players are
going to touch the ball doing the best things that
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they do. And we're going to go out like that.
If we lose, we lose. If we win you know, great,
but we're not going to lose doing things that we
don't do well.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
And it's not that Ohio State can't run the football.
But as many pointed out, Ryan Day hates the label
that Michigan now is the program that's physical and in
the Midwest that just lands hard for Ryan Day. He
does not want to be known as the coach that
has created a softer program. But the truth is, and
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I've talked about this to Urban Meyer on thishh when
you recruit the best receivers in the country every year
in Alabama and Ohio State do it does change. It
does change how you play. By the way, Andy Reid
went to Philadelphia, blue collar Philadelphia, and he was the
coach that started to run on a first down and
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started to pass on third and two. Andy Reid went
into tough guy Philadelphia and he said, you know what,
I'm gonna look at Donovan McNabb and my wide receivers
and the culture changes in football. We're gonna pass the
ball on third and two. And he got to five
NFC championships because that's what he thought worked best for
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the culture changes and his personnel. He had a pretty
good quarterback and so you play to your personnel. And
if you recruit the best wide receivers in the world
in college football, and Ohio State does, that's what you are.
Don't be ashamed of it. If you want to stop
recruiting him, fine, But fewer and fewer kids in America
play in high school football want to be running backs
because their careers are shorter and you make less money.
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The most talented high school football players and the smart
ones want to be quarterbacks, ed rushers, wide receivers, so
it's hard to find great running backs. The state of California,
on an annual basis, thirty eight million people will have
two elite running backs two they'll have one hundred Division
one wide receivers. Kids are smart, they know where the
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money is. So an Ohio State recruised that position better
than anybody. The other thing that hurts is Ohio State
is in a weird, weird spot where Ryan Day beats
everybody except Michigan. He's one and four against Michigan. He's
sixty three and two against everybody else. And so when
you have a rival like a Duke Carolina in basketball,
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Ohio State Michigan, you gotta beat your rival. When they're vulnerable,
and this was the vulnerable year for Michigan. Not good
at quarterback. Game was in Columbus, Harbad just left and
they gave it to a coordinator. Remember, Ohio State dominated
this thing from like two thousand four to twenty nineteen.
They dominated this rival. They were vulnerable. One year, the
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Luke Fickle year, Michigan beat them, but Ohio State with Trussel,
Ohio State with Urban always beat Michigan. And then that
that one wobbly year with Luke Fickle, Michigan beat them.
This was the beat Michigan year. Because next year, the
game's in an arbor. Next year they have a five star,
best high school quarterback in the country and momentum. So
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now Michigan's in Ohio State's head. The game goes to
an arbor, and Michigan's got the better quarterback, which you
know matters. So it's it's a weird spot. If Ohio
State loses its first game, and right now in the
playoff they play Tennessee, my pick before the season to
win the Natty and they lose that game. I wouldn't
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fire Ryan Day because I think he's a good coach.
Be careful about firing good coaches unless you have a
great coach in the offing, and I'm not sure they do.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
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Speaker 1 (21:03):
All right, here we go. What a weekend of college
football and it just starts. Now the season's getting crazy.
Let's bring in the voice of college football, Joel Clatt
to the program. Let's hear it for Joel. Dude breeze later, Brady, yesterday,
Joel Clatt s were just all stars.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Now, I will admit I like the buck guys to
win that game. It caught me a little offstart when
you were broadcasting that game, And because I was sitting
there thinking, what is Clatt thinking? When you got to
the late second quarter, were you thinking to yourself, what's
Ohio State doing? I mean yes, and I was saying
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that on the air a couple of times. But but
late in the second quarter, remember in the two minute series,
right before the half, they finally started using tempo, some
vertical routes and they went right down the field. And
in a few of the series, let's remember in the
they were able to go right down the field, they
were stopped on fourth down on one of those, and
so they were gaining yards throwing the football and that's
where their advantage was. And my conversations, they knew that,
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you know, they understood that, and and the first half
played out, they go in with a with a tie game,
it's ten to ten, and I'm thinking to myself, they
get the ball, and what they just saw and learned
in that last series was they're gonna come by right
back to the temple.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
But they didn't.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Well, but they danged really well, not in the first series,
and I just I got to tell you, it wasn't
until after the game that it really dawned on me.
I think that they were playing, you know, around Will Howard,
who was maybe banged up in that game, and after
the early interception, I think that they got spooked a
little bit in terms of the way that he was
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seeing the field. And then I think that they felt
like their defense just would not give up a score
because remember at that point, it's ten ten and the
only reason that Michigan scored was first and goal inside
the five after the interception, and then they get a
short punt and they get the ball and they go
five yards and kick a fifty plus yard field goal.
And so I think that Ryan and Chip in a
lot of ways, looked at that, looked at the way
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their quarterback was playing, looked at the way their defense
was playing. And I think that in the third quarter
they thought to themselves, one score wins this. I thought,
field goal wins this, And that's the way they called
the game in the second half. I think, you know,
it's interesting, what if he loses in the first round
of the playoffs. Oh man, Now, now I wouldn't fire it,
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but I do think we can say this. When you
stacked him up against Harbaugh, he felt like the second
best coach in the field. That's okay, most of the
NFL does. So let's not overreact that Harball beat him.
Let's not overreact to that Belichick beat Andy Reid. Andy
Reid beat Belichick. Sometimes you lose the great coach. That's
Tom Coughlin, by the way, who should be in the
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Hall of Fame. It's idiotic that he's not beat Belichick
twice in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Twice.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Great coaches beat great, by the way, Belichick for a
year struggle with Andy Reid even before he had Mahomes.
It's okay to lose to Harba. And this is what
I would tell Ohio State fans, just take the Harbor out.
He's arguably next to Belichick and Read and Sean Payton's
best coaching in the league, football and on the planet.
But then there's a Clemson loss, and then there's a
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Georgia loss. So in Ohio state's not reasonable, they're irrational.
Do you think there's a chance he gets fired if
he lost to Tennessee in the first round.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I don't think so, just because I'm only going based
on what their athletic director has said, Ross Byork. Remember
Ross is fairly new to the job. This is really
his first full year on the job as athletic director
at Ohio State, and I don't think that he wants
to go down that road. I also think and I
know that, you know, people say like, oh, you know,
everyone has money, but it would cost a significant amount
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of money. Probably you're looking at upwards of forty five
to fifty five million dollars just to buy out the
current coaching staff. You would need to then go and
hire somebody and then spend money in the nil you're
looking at an now they're twenty to twenty five million
to do that, So you're you're in the neighborhood of
seventy five to eighty five million dollars to make that decision.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yeah, And I don't think that that's.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I don't think he has the appetite for it, and
I don't think that that would be the right move.
I really don't. And this is the other part of
this is like I don't believe that I don't think
that this is going to last forever. I think that
that Ryan is.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
A very good coach.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I think that there's a mental block with Michigan right now,
and the game plan on Saturday I think was evident
of that, but there were obviously other factors. And this
feels like something that when he gets over the humps,
it's gonna be big. I mean, Harbad didn't win over
Urban Meyer, and they stuck with him when they thought
they would fire him in the COVID year, they stuck
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with him, and look at what happened. You look at
the history of college football, and what you'll see is
that most often, even the greatest coaches in the history
of our sport have taken a while to win their championship.
It took Osbourne.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Quite a while. It took Bowden quite a while.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
You know, it's very rare that you get these guys
that win it right away, like Bob Stoops or Larry Coker.
It's generally the opposite guys take a while. Urban Meyer
took a while. Saban it took a while as a
head coach in order to get to that point and
then eventually win the national championship. It's okay for people
to learn on the job. I do think I said this.
If you go look at Saban, he starts at Michigan State,
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I mean, I mean, he averaged seven wins or something.
Then he goes to LSU and he goes to Miami,
doesn't work, maybe could have eventually, and then he goes
to Alabama. First year they lost to Louisianam and row
at home. The second year they got boat raced by
Utah and the Sugar Bowl well, and they lost to
Florida that year. As an undefeated, they couldn't beat Tim
Tebow and urban Meyer. So it took a while. I mean,
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Nick Saban didn't win a title until he's you know,
well into his head coaching career. So I'm with you,
But I also understand like that that fan base is irrational,
There's no question about it. Yeah. And the problem, and
I think Ryan would even admit this is like Saturday
was not great, was not great at all because they
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allowed Michigan to get in their head to play the game,
the only game that they could win. Yeah, there was
one out of ten paths for that Michigan team to
beat this Ohio State team, and they allowed that path
to take place. I don't want to go doctor Phil here,
but I've got a theory a little bit on this.
So there's certain things you can say to a coastal elite,
not that I am one or no any but if
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you said to me, ooh, coastal elite, I'd be like, yeah,
seventy two degrees today, how's it in Indyn't. I don't
care if you call me to coastal elite either the
New Yorkers. I've been called that my whole life, and
I'm like, I love the Midwest. I fly over it
all the time. So but in the Midwest. But in
the Midwest, if you say to somebody you're soft who
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they don't like that we are soft out here?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
I'm soft.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I am took. I take work off for an ice
cream headache. I will take a day off any day,
But Midwestern people and Ryan Day was told the last
three years you're soft. Ohio State saw you can't run
the ball, and it got into his head. Yeah, And
I think if you told Lincoln Riley that, or you
told nobody cares, you know, I think that play he
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was coaching that game to prove a point. Well, I
know that that's the way it looks. I don't think
that he was coaching to prove a point. If you
gave him like if if Will Howard is seeing the
football field really well and playing well, they throw the
ball all over the place that that game was called
because of the way the game happened, I don't think
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it was. So I'm just I'm just disagreeing. I don't
think he's there like we're going to prove, we're going
work tough. I believe that the circumstances of the way
his defense was playing and the way his quarterback was
playing led to the way that the game is called.
And the evidence is the third quarter. So in the
third quarter, they've got first and ten at the nineteen
yard line with about six minutes six twenty two left.
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That series ends in a real bad interception, yes, really
bad interception. Then immediately Davis Warren throws them an interception
and Caleb Downs picks it off. It's the sixteen yard line.
Now it's first and ten at the sixteen yard line
and your quarterback just threw a really bad interception.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
And guess what they did.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Played for a field goal because they felt like a
field goal was going to win the game at that point,
and they missed the field goal. So I thought that's
what that was more what happened, rather than this this
narrative of toughness and softness and everything like that. I
will say though generally speaking, it does feel. It does
feel at times like Michigan is the guy in the
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lunch room that's like, hit me in the stomach, and
then Ohio State is like the fast, you know, popular
kid that has all this skill and gets baited into
a stomach punching contest with like o'doyle, you know o'doyle rules.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
And it's like, that's the way it feels.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
That's a good one.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
So I'm just gonna approach the nothing bothers me about
the twelve team playoff. I would I deally not like
to have a three loss team in there. Ideally. Okay,
I'm not an idealist. Okay, I'm not like. I work
in radio TV. I understand the game. I'm a bad
segment from working at Costco.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
So my point is.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Wait, would you be a greeter?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Oh, I'd be the best. You would be the best
greet Ye bad reason? Can you imagine Colin greeting at
the at Costco? And he because you would just be
like judging people as they walk by. I don't like
your shoes. That his walk is weird right there. I
don't think he's gonna get the sale. You know, I
can be a little judge, That's okay. So the point
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is on this, and you're one of these reasonable people.
I tried it, always tries to throw a life preserver
to the sad. You're very empathetic. I am not. Okay,
I'm gonna call it out. Hey, Miami, you plan a
lousy conference. Your last two, your two losses, you don't
beat any of You don't have a good win. Yeah, okay,
Alabama's got three losses. Ideally, I don't like that, So
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I don't think you should have two mulligans. But they
beat Georgia, and you know, losing Oklahoma's not the worst
thing in the world. They also were three and one
against ranked teams, so I don't like them having an
extra mulligan. There's not a great option. Let's start try there.
So I'm taking over Miami is a better option, I think.
I think based on the strength of schedule, based on
what Miami did within their ACC play they had a
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very favorable ACC schedule, or they didn't have to play
many of the any other kind see, there you go,
there you go, greeting, I did that. I'm morphed right
in the street.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
You did.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
That's it, the snarky greader. Bama's resume is not great.
But to me, the bubble was those four teams from
eleven to fourteen. So it's Bama in South Carolina, it's
Ole miss and it's Miami. And if you put Alabama
head to head resume for resume with all of those
bubble teams, they win the argument. There you go. I
did this on my program for today's show, and I
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know people don't like it. I understand that, and I'm
not saying that this is a great option. I'm just
saying that in an argument. Bama wins those arguments. Yes,
Miami does not have a ranked win. You can point
at that, and you can say they're also losing at
the wrong time, losing two of their last three games. Yeah,
this is this is not a great option. And I
don't think Alabama's a great team. I don't think that
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they have a chance to win the national champions But
in a resume argument with Miami, they win that argument.
I think that that would be the main point. Okay,
so this whole flag planting, yeah, at the end of
the game. Okay, so people overreact everything. And my take
is they're young people. These rivalry games. It's easy to sit,
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you know, a thousand miles away and go, what are
these hooligans doing? If you live in Columbus or Ann Arbor,
this is a big deal for these kids. It's not
just a big deal culin. By the way, like, think
about think about it just for a moment. Are you
and I kind of saying it happens. I'm going to
be similar with you here, think about it for just
a moment. Why do we love college football? Passion? Passion,
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wild tribalism. Yes, we feel regionalism. We love it as fans.
As members of those institutions, we are Gators, seminals, buck guys, Wolverines, Buffaloes,
wherever you went to school, I don't even know, scream
and Eagles.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Thank you. Yeah, see there you go.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
You know why it is because we feel like like
part of our identity was forged at those places. This
is a real thing. This is a real thing. And
in professional sports you can't say that. You can't say like,
I am a cowboy. I mean, there are some that
try and they're lunatics. And that's what's so great about
college football. And so here's the problem with that is
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that it makes it an incredibly emotional sport. Once it's emotional,
then it can go right to the redline, in particular
in rivalries. Now you've got like family rivalries, right, You've
got like blood thick right is going on. They go
back decades and decades and decades. So if it overheats
a little bit, I'm not going to throw the baby
out with the basketball kid. It's part of what is
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college football. Now. Do I love it? No? Do I
wish that it would take? Do I wish that this
would happen?
Speaker 4 (34:16):
No?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Is it ugly for the sport at times. Yes.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
However, However, if I'm going to love the sport because
it goes up to that line, I cannot be upset
when it inches over that line. And I'm not going
to chastise the individuals say for being emotional in that situation.
I know what it feels like to loose to your
rival at home. I know what it feels like to
beat your rival on the road. It's one is elation
and the other is the depth of depression that you
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can't even fathom. Why, because it's tribal, that's how we identify.
So folks, if you're mad at eighteen to twenty two
year olds, yeah, being emotional about what happens at the
end of the game, I think your your anger is misplaced.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, we agree on that. So it makes me rethink
my entire line of.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, hey, I know what it's like to lose an
inner mural game over time. Yeah, let's see, I went sideways.
It's I'll tell you what. I didn't sleep for half
a day. I mean, And by the way, what's the fix.
It's like, should we not have flags? Okay, but it's
like Texas planted their flag on Michigan's Field. Earlier this year,
Baker Mayfield did it, you know, famously at Ohio State. Again,
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this this stuff happens, Okay, I don't know, man. So
I was, uh, you know, as I'm prone to do.
I was at the big game USC, Notre Dame, so
and uh sharing you know, I try to add something.
I just don't go to the game like you and
then exit with a paycheck. I try to add something.
Oh interesting, Yeah, maybe get on a headset. So anyway,
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here's my thing with Lincoln Riley. It's not the sixth
and six. It's not that.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Really.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
I don't love that because I think life has momentum
and inertia. It could be six and six and you
lost your star quarterback. Here's what bothers me. Today's recruiting day,
Alabama is going to sign more kids from southern California
than USC.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Yeah, that's a huge problem.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
That is an issue, is that there's this preciousness.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
That's Lincoln y. I'll just say that.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
It's like that is a way bigger issue than going
six and six. That's my point. It's there's this thing,
you know, I and again I don't want to bully
people that are six and six. I think Brian Kelly's
a great coach.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Bad year.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Well and SC I don't like their lack of connectivity
to the local, dominant, great high school. I'm telling you, man,
that's the problem. This is what's this is what's wild
is that you could build a top four college football team,
probably the national champion, and all you would have to
(36:59):
do is go with a radius of i'll call it
fifty miles from USC and you can win the national championship.
I think you I've always believed to get some of
your I think there are other parts of the country
that deliver big defensive linemen. Yeah, we eat too well
out here or something.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
I don't know what it is that would be an area.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Although guests who just put together one of the great
defensive line performances I've ever seen from an individual. Mason
Graham from a Servite from from Servit, California, and he
was the LA County nine player of the year in
the heavyweight wrestling and she had no interest in playing.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
He Michigan.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yeah, and he almost single handedly, along with Kenneth Grant
with evens the tackle, he almost single handedly beat Ohio
State because Ohio State decided they were going to run
the football right on. He was unblockable. Single teams, double
teams didn't matter. And he's from Servite and it's like
what he wasn't interested? Smart kid. That's a problem to
(37:58):
Jim Harb.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
But that's a problem. It is. That's a problem.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I'll throw this out. Let me, let me, let me
end it here, put a bow on it. It's good
to see you. It's great to see you because a
lot of times you come here and I know I'm
gonna have to be hard on you.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Was it today one of those days? No, I thought
it was pretty nice. I said, when I agree with you,
you think no. No, You and I.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Disagreed a lot when well, when I threw that pretty
accurate theory on Ryan Day, Midwest were soft, it got
into his head.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Yeah but that was just wrong. Oh okay, sure you bet.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Okay, well the cappin's infrequently, but all on it. Okay,
let's do this is that here's the best part. So
you're not like this, But a lot of people are
like this. They don't like change. I can remember when
I was a kid and the speed limit was fifty
five to sixty five. Oh, I had somebody in my family.
We're all gonna die, and the manufacturer said, let's build
better cars. No, yeah, I mean the auto bonn had
(38:47):
a better safety record than our freeways and they're driving
one hundred.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
The bottom line is society changes. People overreact baseball. Oh
you put in a pitcher's clock or the tenants up ratings,
up games faster. It's better for the sport. We just
Fox just broke records in baseball, and they made a
bunch of changes. They're going to make another one, the
Golden at bat. I love that. Okay. So my point
is all this nil and transfer portal, it's a lot
(39:10):
of motion for college football. But here's the great part
about it, the unintended benefit that I didn't see coming.
It eliminates great team. That's right, because Georgia, Texas, Ohio State,
Notre Dame. They get the they stockpile talent. Well, now,
now all these George, all these Loubels or Oregons or
(39:32):
Washington's a UCLA or whoever it is, has money goes.
Do you want to be a backup left tackle? You're
a five star kid, come start for us in LA.
This is exactly right, and it's it's an unintended benefit.
Is that you're like the Bama stuff. Congrats to Bama.
That's not happening. Ever, again, I don't think so either.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I think the closest thing that we've got to a
team that could really dominate for a few years is
Texas right now with the way that they've they've built
their roster. But talented players are unwilling to be backups.
I mean, that's just the way college football is, and
and before they were forced to be backups if they
wanted to play for the teams that could compete for
to win the national championship because that was such a
(40:12):
narrow scope of who could actually compete for and win
national championships. So now you expanded out. So I'm just
talking about the expansion of the playoffs and how that
drives parody. But then you also have now resources in
terms of how teams and programs all over the country
can spend money on nil. The transfer portal allows for
that freedom to go to different places. And now all
of a sudden, you've got teams like Indiana in the
(40:33):
playoff and Arizona State playing for a right to go
to the playoff, in Iowa State for the right to
go to the playoffs. I watched the thirteen one hundred
over times in Georgia Georgia Tech. I'm still not sure
who the better team is. That's one hundred per sist.
Georgia Tech was an engineering school, and I'm like, I
think they're better than Georgia. There is the peak, so
the best teams can be has been brought down just
(40:55):
a little bit, and the middle and the middle has
has risen, and college football has never been better because
of it. And now all of a sudden, the regular
season has been the best best regular season that I
can remember, not as far as competitiveness.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Now you can say.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Like, well there's you know, Georgia is not great, and
this is this is not good. Yes, it's fantastic. Actually,
it's fantastic that even Ohio State, with this roster that
we all thought was the best roster that we had
seen in a long time, is not infallible. Look at
look at Oregon is undefeated. Narrowly beat Boyse State, that's right,
narrowly beat Idaho. It's true, it's great.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
So I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
That's why I look at this playoff and I think
that there could be some real chaos. I think there
could be some real chaos. I think that there's gonna
be a couple of first round matchups yeap.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Pending the way that this weekend goes. Think about this.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
If Oregon beats Penn State, they fall probably behind Georgia
and Ohio State. If Texas beats Georgia, they probably sit
in there right there. That means I think that we're
likely to get I think that there's a good chance
that we get some sort of like Tennessee at Penn State,
Alabama at Ohio State, oh probably Indiana at Georgia. That's
(42:03):
the way the first round kind of looks. And if
Clemson's able to beat SMU, it would be Clemson at
Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
I believe that's going to be the first round of
the college football playoffs.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
I'm glad we ended on a good spot. You can
be a bit of a grudge holder.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
You know, we got there.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
It takes a while, but you know, you dismissed about
thirty forty fifty percent of what I said, and yet
and yet we.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Look at it. You know, if I disagree so well,
I feel like.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
We hugged at the end of it. It's a arrive
home in a good move. It's a model for America, right,
that's a good way to put it. Yeah, the show
is and this segment well more so this segment. Okay, sure,
but sure even on the way out, it's got to
be snarky. Okay, got a Costco greeter against the King
of snark. You choose America who you like, because I
know I've made my choice.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Slowy walks it. Nice sweater, it'd be that. Actually, we
should film it. This would be amazing.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Colin is a greeter. Let's not go there, Okay, Live
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