December 9, 2024 • 33 mins
Colin compares Josh Allen's superhero performance in a losing effort against the Rams to what Patrick Mahomes did in walk off win over the Chargers. He tells you why he was right about the Bears and wrong about Kirk Cousins. Plus, 3-time Pro Bowler Matt Hasselbeck joins the show to talk about Sam Darnold incredible season as the Vikings stay in contention for the best record for the NFC
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Oh, it is a Monday and a busy one live
in Los Angeles. It's the Herd wherever you may be
and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us
part of your day. One hour from now, Colin Wright,
Colin Wrang, plenty of both. Matt Hasselbeck will stop by
as is customary on this show. Jmack, I am so
glad that we got the bills in the Rams, followed
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by I mean talk about two great quarterback performances, followed
by two other great quarterbacks Kansas City and the Chargers.
Because at Leedimerica's seen who's wasting talent and that's a
spice of tea. Yeah, so let's talk about that. Josh
Allen had the greatest day ever for a quarterback, three
passing touchdowns, three rushing touchdowns. It hadn't been done in
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a long time. And the Bills lost. Of course they
did because they've been wasting Josh Allen's talent forever. I mean,
the Rams had almost thirty first downs. We're eleven of
fifteen on third, almost perfect in the red zone, thirty
eight minutes time of possession. They dominated that the Bills
had a punt blocked. Stafford did whatever he wanted. You
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ever consider rolling coverage over on Puka? It can't look
that easy if you're Matt Stafford. Was that the Bill's
scout team. Listen, Josh Allen is the greatest quarterback talent
I've ever seen. He's better than Lway, He's better than
Mahomes as a talent. Andrew Luck couldn't do that six ' six,
huge arm, two fifty five and produced four hundred plus yards. Again,
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he's done it eleven times, and you know what his
record is in those games five and six. This franchise
continues to let him down. Mahomes has the better coach
and the trophies, and is the second most talented quarterback
in this league. But if you give Patrick Mahomes or
he gives you six touchdowns Kansas City wins. There are
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games he can give you one touchdown on a pick
and Kansas City wins. Josh Allen, I mean, how many
times are we gonna see this? He literally is jaw dropping.
There's nothing you can do. He didn't scramble for nine yards,
He'll scramble for thirty nine. He doesn't throw it forty
yards on the line. He throws at fifty eight yards
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on the line. He's a jaw dropping once in a
lifetime talent. He had four touchdowns and no picks once
against this Kansas City Chiefs team, which I'll show in
a minute, and lost. Of course he did. Now I'm
looking at his numbers. It is just a total waste
of his talent. And you can blame whoever you want.
I like the owner, GM Sharp, Sean Mcdermock's good, but
I've compared to Chuck Knox, legendary bounce around coach that
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won everywhere but couldn't get the trophy. Josh Allen is
four and five, that is it. In games in which
he produces four hundred plus yards. You know what mahomes
record is in those games? Fourteen in two ballgame, ball game.
They are wasting his talent. Yes, don't get me wrong,
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Matt Stafford. We've been saying this for years. He's is
and was an all time passing down He's what Aaron
Rodgers wishes he was the last three years. He was
better in high school in college than Aaron. He's better
now than Aaron. He was better for the first three
to four years in the league than Aaron, but he
ended up in Detroit. Mcvay's like, get me that guy.
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They did. He's magical when he's upright. If they can
protect him, he's one of the only guys in the
league that can go toe to toe with Josh Allen.
Wow to wow to wow to wow. Seventy six percent
completion percentage, one hundred and thirty two passeray. But it
can't look that easy. I mean, the Rams were making
Josh Allen throw in tiny windows, making him run around.
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That Rams defense is young, talented, fast athletic. They were
making Josh Allen work for it. Matt Stafford, it was
like a summer drill. It was seven on seven football.
So the kid is absolutely jaw dropping, and I feel
terrible for him because they've got to do something. When
he puts the cape on Mahomes is fourteen and two
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and he is four and five. And again, it's not
like the Rams defense doesn't have talent. Their last couple
two three drafts, they've spent it on defensive guys up front,
and you can see him. But Alan's ability to cut
through it is remarkable, and yet he loses again, and
this time to an inferior team. Here is Sean McVeagh,
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the winning coach after Josh.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Allen is an alien. Some of the stuff that he
can do and the things that he can create, we
knew he was capable of that.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
He's shown that.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
It's why he is, you know, as well respected and
regarded in this league as he is. It's all deserved
and earned. But our guys found a way to just
make enough plays to be able to come out on top.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Now, I'd like to talk about a team that doesn't
waste their quarterback's talent. The Kansas City Chiefs, who just
won their ninth straight AFC West title. Now they were
facing Justin Herbert, who was so hot in the second
half he went forever until he had an incompletion. The
pass rush for the Chargers was giving Mahomes fits. Jim
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Harbaugh made tweaks at halftime, Quinton Johnson, the receiver, redeemed himself.
I mean, the Chargers put in a fight. I've said
this all year. The Chargers feel like a little bit
of a poor man's chiefs coach, quarterback, pass rush, just
enough weapons, and they were missing their best back and
probably their best receiver. And yet did anybody doubt Read
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Mames Travis Kelsey would figure out a way to win
it in the fourth quarter. If you keep delivering on
earnings day as a CEO, it's not luck, it's a
business model. You don't do anything ten fifteen times. They're
ten to zero in one score games. Fifteen straight wins
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in one score games. That is beyond luck. That is efficiency. Luck.
Luck is like a bad team doing it two times
in a row. Luck isn't a dynasty doing it fifteen
times in a row. Some people are smarter, they're more clutch.
Kansas City, even the doinks work in their favor. But
when they called that play on the sidelines and read
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Naggy and Mahomes go over and they're talking, They've done
this now fifteen straight times, Losers call winners lucky. I'm
sure Carolina and the Bears are like, what a lucky
team winners get? How hard it is Mahomes, look at
Kelsey's sitting down. That is a designed play. They manipulated
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and toyed with a defense who's very good. And once again,
Kansas City. They've rebuilt the O line, They've rebuilt the defense,
They've two times rebuilt the receiving core for Mahomes. And
they asked Mahomes a couple of times a game to
jump into the phone booth and put on the Superman
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cape a couple times a game. The Bills asked Josh
Allen to put on the cape right before the anthem starts.
He has to come dressed as Superman because they'll have
a punt blocked or Matt Stafford will have a seven
on seven drill against them. And this is what I love.
I'll say this about New England in Brady's prime, they
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didn't know us have the best roster. But I said
this two months ago. Kansas City has become a more clever,
offensive version of what New England was. Was it lucky
when New England for twenty years kept winning all those
close games? No, it's a business model. They're just smarter
I've had multiple players and executives. They would practice things
in New England all summer long, all summer long, call
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it once in November. They were just more prepared. And
when Mahomes and Reid and Naggy are on that sideline,
it's like, yeah, it's a third down, it's over. They're
gonna get it. And again they ask Mahomes occasionally to
put on the cape. Josh Allen has to wear it
to the game. Four and five is Josh Allen in
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games in which he's Superman. Mahomes is fourteen and two.
And I love that they were juxtaposed. I love that
you got Josh Allen against the great quarterback playing out
of his mind and losing, and Mahomes playing against the
great quarterback with a team that's kind of ham and
egging at left packle. They brought a guy and he
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got hurt. And yet winning efficiency smart when doing anything
multiple times over and over and over and over, it's
not luck. Luck is a scratch off ticket. Luck is
a losing company having in good earnings quarter. Yeah, Navidia
doing another big day for Navidia stock is not luck.
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They're ahead of the industry and that's what Kansas City
is and what New England was, and here's was my
homes after.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
As long as we have a chance to go out
there and have the football and make a play happen,
I think we're gonna make it happen to be able
to win this division, to gain another game in the playoff. Pitchers,
it was an important game for us. It's a really
good football team. We thought a gonna win, but now
we gotta keep building if we want to get to
our ultimate goal.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I actually thought that was one of the three or
four best losses of the year for the Chargers. They
didn't have their best receiver, they didn't have their best back,
and Herbert. They made adjustments at halftime. Herbert had I
think ten straight completions. They had opportunities to win the game.
They made a cup of key defensive plays. But it's
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just it's it's very difficult when you're facing the best
quarterback along with Josh Allen Mahomes, the best coach, the
best tight end, and a team that's situationally. I mean,
I don't know how you guys watch these games. I
always feel like, yeah, they'll figure it out. That confidence
they even the Chiefs, even you know their confidence, jinks
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in the winner. It's just who they are. It defines them.
One hundred years from now, you will talk about the
Kansas City Chiefs and you'll look at the records and
you're like, You're like, man, they want a lot of
close games. Yes, because that's what happens when you eventually
have to pay your quarterback four hundred fifty million dollars,
that you aren't very good at offensive tackle, that you
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have to make mid season moves, that you really don't
have a number one receiver, that your tight end's getting old.
He's good in spots, but not for the duration of
the season. That's what happens. But Kansas City always figures
a way to make it work, and Buffalo never does.
And I don't think that's just some zany coincidence.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
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Speaker 1 (11:13):
Was right Matt Stafford, I've said before he was better
in high school, college, in first four years in the
NFL than Aaron Rodgers, and he's better now. He was
always the most talented guy in the NFL in a
bad spot. He's only thirty six. He's got two to
three more Super Bowl runs with his young team. In
my opinion, he's still a complete workhorse fifth in path attempts.
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If they can protect him for the next three years,
there's no reason to get another quarterback on his I mean,
how many people could have beaten Josh Allen last night
Mahomes Stafford Burrough with a better defense like Stafford's in
a completely elite class, where Colin was Rough. I thought
the committee, like j Max said, would choose Alabama. I
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think the SEC is certainly good enough to get four teams.
But Alabama lost of and by the way, that Oklahoma game,
I still can't figure out. They got run out of
the stadium against an Oklahoma team that was two and
six in the SEC. So nobody to blame except Alabama.
But I just don't think the SEC deserves just one
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more team than the ACC. So I was surprised where
Colin was right Kansas City ten and zero one possession games.
I keep pushing back on the they're lucky. No, it's
a business model. When they called that timeout in the
fourth quarter, it was Matt Naggi Mahomes and Andy Reid
and then threw to a sitting Travis Kelcey. This is
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what they do. It wasn't luck when Brady, Josh McDaniels,
Edelman and Grong did it, and it's not luck now.
Kansas City is great at it because it's the best quarterback,
the best coach, one of the best tight ends. It's
how they win where Colin was wrong. I'll stop minding
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the Texas football someday, but it does anybody lose games.
They should win more than Texas. Georgia was down to
a backup, but they had eleven penalties and that's nineteen
penalties in two games against Georgia. Quinn Ewers, not a
huge fan, banged up a lot. Don't see a lot
of special there. They averaged one point one yards per
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rush against Georgia. Georgia couldn't run the ball in the
first half either, but when the game really mattered, suddenly Georgia,
with a backup quarterback, found a way to run the ball.
I have always loved Texas Sarks a friend. He's very
good at what he does. They recruit at an elite level,
but in these big games, not shocking that Georgia with
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better play calling, better decision making, with a backup quarterback
could win the game. Where Colin was right, this was
my concern for Caleb Williams. I don't trust the Bears ownership.
The executive suite. Yesterday was embarrassing. Seven straight losses. I mean,
they couldn't get the press conference right when they fired
Matt Eberflus. This is the concern. Again. They had a
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chance at Jim Harbaugh, but apparently Kevin Warren, the president,
and Harbaugh have a history and it's not a good one.
They were out gained three hundred and nineteen yards to
four in the first half. That's beyond bad. That's embarrassing.
Where Colin was right. I defend Kyler Murray more than anybody,
but you know something, and somebody mentioned this to me
a couple of weeks ago. When he starts poorly, he
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gets moody, his body language changes. It's it's just a fact.
And that game early he played poorly and it felt like, yeah,
it's over. He only has well, only one game all
year with over one touchdown pass. And again I defend him,
but he is five nine and a half. There was
the internet gaming over study issue. I don't love his
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body language when he starts slow. He's got five picks
in the last three games, and I don't think it's talent.
I like Arizona's defensive effort. I like their coach, I
like their weapons. Some of this my bad is just
on Tyler Murray. Where Colin was right, Robert Sala got fired.
I said, you're nuts, he's the best coach on the staff.
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Yesterday's a prime example. Tua dropped to throw forty seven times,
no sacks, barely got hit. Would that happen with Robert
Sala as the head coach. The Jets are a circus
and I never bought into them as a playoff team,
but they're one in seven since Robert Sala got fired,
and they couldn't get to Tuo with their defensive personnel,
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and their corners didn't like the firing. Never let the
best coach out of the building. Where Colin was wrong.
I thought Kirk Cousins for about a year and a
half was a really good signing as Michael Penni's the
rookie waited and watched, kind of a Flaco Lamar Jackson thing.
But boy, Kirk has aged quickly. Last four games, zero touchdowns,
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eight picks. Listen, he's older, he's never been a dynamic athlete,
but I mean in the fourth order this year and
we've seen a little bit of this Aaron Rodgers. He
has a fifty six passer rating. So I thought Kirk
Cousins for a year and a half until maybe late
October next year that handed the Pennix was the right call.
I did not think it would look like this by December,
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where Colin was right. I said in preseason, keep your
eye on my dark horse pick for the National Championship.
The Tennessee Volunteers only losses Georgia and on the road
at Arkansas. They're ten and two. They now face Ohio State,
and Tennessee's defensive line is the elite, and Ohio State's
offensive line has been injured for the last several weeks.
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Ryan Days on the hot seat. Josh Heipel's one of
the best young coaches. I actually think Tennessee is better
served facing arguably the first or second best team be
a giant killer early in this playoff. So Tennessee was
my pick for the NATTY. I didn't look very smart
middle of the season. If I'm Ohio State this is
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one of the last teams I want to face. Tremendous
defensive line against us SO. So Ohio State banged up
offensive line where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong.
And with that, Matt Hasselbeck, eighteen years Super Bowls, three
time Pro Bowler joins us SO. I want to start.
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And it sounded kind of harsh, but Mahomes is fourteen
and two in games, and when he puts the cape
on and all you guys have pretty good Yeah, pretty good,
and we all know and he reads great. Now, Josh
Allen's five and six. And I sat there yesterday and
I was happy for Matt Stafford, who we both think
is great. But I thought, now, you gotta win these games.
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You can't have a pump blocked. It can't be that
easy for Matt Stafford. I have moved to the point
where I think they need to do something if they
can't get through, they are really built to win it all.
You got a Kansas City team, Matt, that can't get
their tackles right. What did you make of the Buffalo
loss despite Josh's performance.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Yeah, listen, it's like a Hallmark movie. I mean, if
you've seen that Kansas City Chiefs movie. I highly recommend it,
but it's like a happy ending. No matter what drama
is going on during the day, they're going to find
a way and listen. I just think it's intangibles For
Kansas City. It's players that are playing, a group of
players playing above the x's and o's and right now,
unfortunately for Josh Allen, he just was born at the
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wrong time. I mean, Josh Allen to me is the
MVP this year. He's absolutely incredible, a ton of fun
to watch. But when you're playing in the AFC and
you're playing in a tight game, certain teams know how
to finish and you just know that they're going to
do it, and other teams are struggling to learn how.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
To do it.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
I thought last night Buffalo had an opportunity, but they
made a couple calculated mistakes that ended up costing them
the game. Now they'll learn from that and they'll be
better for it. But when you talk about Kansas City,
they're just a team that has those intangibles and other
people besides just the quarterback who can rise above.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
So there was a moment on the sideline. It was
a big third down late in the game. For Kansas
City and I want you to take me there. It
was Naggie Read and Mahomes and they went over there
and he's like yeah, yeah, yeah, so like it. And
then they throw to Travis Kelsey who's sitting down. What
are they saying right there? Probably yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
So usually the night before, on that big call sheet,
that Andy Reid call sheet, you'll have fourth and two
to win the game. You probably don't have third and
seven with under two minutes ago, Like, what are we
going to call? But they called a safe play and
Kelsey on that play, he's got what's called a corner route.
A seven route seven, eight, and nine are your deeper
routes in like the passing tree. He's supposed to go
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to the back corner of the end zone. He immediately
realizes that it's not there. Andy Reid lets his star
players play within the system with creativity, and he knows
where his teammates are not going to be. So Kelsey,
being on the same page, being a Hall of Fame player,
puts his own cape on. Mahomes is ready for it.
He basically runs what equates to a seven stop. He
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comes back into the area Mahomes isn't surprised by it.
Kelsey's confident that he can do it. And this is
just an example of two Hall of Fame players playing
above the x's and o's. Quite honestly, the Chargers, you know,
defensive coordinator Minter, he's sitting there, he's got the perfect
play call on Like they're sitting in the defensive staff
meeting today being like what would you do different? Like nothing,
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we called the perfect call. These guys just rose above.
And you know, I think some of that is continuity
and playing together, but a lot of it also is
a coach like Andy Reid, allowing those guys to have
some creativity within the playbook.
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Speaker 1 (20:51):
So obviously, when you watch a Lamar or a Maholmes
or like a Brett farvarn Allen, the talent's incredible. I
could figure it out. Stafford doesn't run around, he's not gigantic,
he's not leaping over people. But it's like there's a
there's an old saying an actor's actor, a comedian's comedian.
I always look at Stafford. I'm like other quarterbacks must
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look at him. And God didn't give him every gift.
He doesn't run around, he's not the biggest guy. I
don't know if I've ever seen a guy make it
look that easy, Like what's his gift?
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Yeah, listen, I'm a huge fan. I think he's one
of the best quarterbacks. But I think any franchise quarterback,
if you're able to protect for him like in the past,
like pass protection wise, keep the defense off balance, no sacks,
no hits like that kind of a thing, it'll be
seven on seven for anybody, especially for Matthew Stafford. So
I thought what Sean McVeigh did is he understands what
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the kryptonite is of the Buffalo defense. There really aren't
that great if you commit to run in the ball, like,
if you commit to it, you run the ball. I
think that's the there kryptonite. And they got to prove
that it's not. They got a tough one against Detroit
coming up, and there's blood in the water and they're
coming for it too. They're gonna have to prove that
they can do that. No room, no swim moves on
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a running play no spin moves on a running play,
you better be gap sound, and I think that's what
the Rams did. McVeigh using Stafford to get him into
the right runs, using play action, getting changing the launch
point for the quarterback. I mean, they were really doing
whatever they wanted to do last night. But the tendency
sometimes is to get away from the run when you
know you're going up against the Josh Allen explosive type
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of type of offense on the other side. I thought
McVeigh and Stafford were outstanding last night. And now the
Buffalo defense has to prove to the rest of the league,
mainly Detroit next that you know they will basically stop
the run first, which is the goal of most defenses.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
So it's interesting with Darnold he can you can let
him walk out the door. And now JJ McCarthy, who
was at a running team in Michigan. He wasn't a
thirty five. I mean they didn't throw the ball at
Penn State on the road. He's talented, but now he
just had a second surgery on his right me and
Daniel Jones is more of a backup than a foundational
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quarterback piece. And here's Donald and listen, I know he
can be reckless, but I mean, he's had two games
that he didn't play well and now he's got I think,
does he have like eleven games with a passer rating
over one hundred. I would franchise tag him. Matt. I
just couldn't let him out of the building. What do
you do if you ran the team? Well?
Speaker 5 (23:25):
A couple of things. First off, on JJ McCarthy. The
knee surgery doesn't worry me at all. It's a meniscus. First,
you try to, you know, see if you can do
it one way. If it doesn't work, he just fixed
the whole thing, that doesn't concern me. But if I'm
Sam Donald, first of all, if I'm the Vikings, I
try to keep Sam darnal, no doubt about it.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
He's earned it, He's played out standing.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
If this last game didn't improve it to you, you know,
I don't know what will. But if I'm Sam Donald,
it's not just about the money, okay, Like you should
want to stay in Minnesota. Also, you should value what
you have there in a coach, a head coach that
understands how to see things through the quarter lens, and
I believe he does that.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
I think that Sam Darnold understands this.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
He was in He was at the New York Jets,
who don't understand how to help a young quarterback. He
was at Carolina, who don't understand how to help a
young quarterback. And then he got a taste of it
in San France, and he's like, you know what, there's value,
there's money.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
I'd be willing to give.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Up to be something, be in the right place, in
the right offense.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
And that's how he ended up in Minnesota in the
first place.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
So now that he's tasted it, I mean, he's already
been to kind of that like quarterback prison.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
He doesn't want to go back.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
So if I'm him, I stay in this kind of
an offense no matter what.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
And truly, even if you feel a.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Little disrespected that they haven't come to you with a
deal yet. I if I'm him, if I'm his friend,
I would say, hey, listen, remember what it was like
when you were with the Jets in Carolina.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
You might want to take less money to stay in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, you know, it was almost predictable. Philadelphia has got
you know, they've played very well. They have a big
game coming up. Here comes Carolina and Listen, you guys are,
and you pro athletes. You know who's good and who's not.
You watch the film. I don't expect pro athletes to be,
you know, at the highest apex of their emotions for
seventeen eighteen weeks. That's just I get it. In January.
You are, but you guys watch film and you know
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who can play. But I do think there's something about
Philadelphia that listen, AJ Brown feels like sometimes he leads
the offense, he and Saquon. Would you be a little
worried about Philadelphia's ability to I mean, if they have
to play catch up fast, Rams could do it, Bills
could do a lot of teams can that passing games.
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It's just not there. And that means if you have
to catch up quick, it can be They'll kill the
clock with Saquon. But do you worry about the AJ Brown,
Jalen Hurts and sort of the pedestrian nature of the
passing game sometimes.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Well, I would just say on every team you're gonna
deal with star wide receivers kind of having that like
I don't know, I don't call it diva, but like
you know, hey, I was open, Like yeah, I know
you were open. But there's there's there's a bigger situation here,
you know. I would use like Jamar Chase as an example.
I think he's one of the smartest wide receivers in
the game, one of the best receivers in the game.
He's putting up crazy numbers, but he gets frustrated sometimes
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because there's other things going on around him that he's
maybe not fully aware of. I think the same thing's
kind of happened in Philly. So I think the key
right there is for them to like just stick together.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Yeah, would he like to? Would aj Brown like to
be more explosive in the passing game? Sure?
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Sure, I think that'll come for them. I'm still believing
in this team. I just I guess what my point
is is like, there's gonna be roller coasters of emotions
throughout throughout the NFL season where guys get frustrated. Can
you stick together? I believe Jalen Hurts is a great leader.
I think Nick Sirianni's the perfect coach for this team.
And I think if that that group of guys in
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that locker room sticks together, weather's the storm Dallas Goddards
out for a little while. If they can stick together
I still think the Philadelphia Eagles are alive for that
one seed in the NFCU in the NFC, people are
gonna be all talking about Detroit. I get it, they're great.
They're gonna talk about Minnesota. They're on fire. I get it,
they're great. But don't sleep on Philly. Like I just,
(27:13):
I really think that this is just the normal ebbs
and flows human nature. Hopefully they learn their lesson for
you know what they did, you know yesterday showing up
in Carolina thinking that they're automatically gonna win because.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
Of the emblem on their helmet.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
That's not how it goes. And you know, hopefully they're
better for it. But I think Philly's got some good football.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Ahead of them.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, I mean, listen, I think their roster, along with Detroit,
is the best in football. I do want to talk
about this. So you had multiple coaches, and so I
was talking to a friend yesterday, my buddy John Middlecoffee
is a former scout for the Eagles, and I said,
if you look at organizations that are broken, hiring a
schematic wizard doesn't necessarily solve it. What solved it in
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Detroit was a culture builder. Dan Campbell, ultimate Alpha, and
then he found a skama a guy the Chargers were broken,
Harbaugh not a schematic whiz, a culture builder. Jamiko Ryans
had that reputation as well, tough guy, all business, detail,
no nonsense, could do schematics, but basically hired Bobby Sloweck
(28:16):
to take care of that. I look at the Bears
and I think this isn't about getting a clever offensive coordinator.
I need a Mike Rabel, I need to I need
I need a Dan Campbell. And you had a variety
of coaches, and you you had some great coaches. But
when something's broken in the NFL, does a schematic guy
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necessarily solve it?
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Listen, there's a there's a lot of things that need
to be fixed in Chicago, you know. I think the
thing you need to get right is the quarterback. And
they've got a very talented quarterback who's not playing very
good football, and so there's a lot of reasons for that.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
I think he's got talent around him.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
But I think, whoever you are in this case, if
we're talking about Caleb Williams, I think you just need
to look in the mirror and say, Okay, what can
I do to get better?
Speaker 6 (29:09):
There's a lot that's outside.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Of his control, but what is in his control and
some of those things are leadership things. Some of those
things are playing the position. You know, that's the one
thing about being the number one pick overall, you don't
get to choose what franchise you go to. THO some
of those things are outside your control. But again, I think,
I think the way to do it is to, you know,
(29:30):
look in the mirror and focus on what you can control.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Finally, Bill Belichick spent five hours with a chancellor at
North Carolina. I don't see this as a fit. I
was just talking to Jmac. You know, there are mission
Impossible and Tom Cruise. The reason it's so great, it's
a perfect fit. A physical actor with a lot of
(29:54):
juice and mission and pop. Not every actor fits that role.
Belichick in college, he didn't cater to Brady. Does this
feel like a fit to you.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
I would say, I mean, listen, I'm sure Coach Belichick
will talk sometime soon this week and kind of you know,
shoot the record.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Straight or whatever, but yeah, this could work.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
There's a lot of people that are coaching in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
They don't want to go to college because of how
much work it is and the challenge in mil and
transfer portal. We're gonna know soon whether this is real
or not because the college timeline for hiring coaches is
pretty immediate. You got all these guys in the portal
right now, you need a plan sign they just happened.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
I don't think Bill Belichick's afraid of it. And I think.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
There's one thing that people in the media and fans
they discount that they should put more stock in, and
that's family. Like if you get the chance to coach
with your son, or coach at a place where your
father used to coach, Like, there's some things that I
would just say are kind of like intangible. So you
got Bill Belichick right now, who's out, he's not coaching.
(30:59):
You've got his son, Steve Belichick, who's the decordinator for
Jetfish at the University of Washington. Like I could see
a scenario where Bill Belichick says, you know what, I
love it.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
I can do it.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
I've got friends Bill O'Brien who's doing it. I got
friends Nick Saban. I watched do It, Like I can
do this. I like this challenge. I think this is
a sleeping giant UNC got all the Jordan money. Like,
there's a scenario where I think this is real, and
I'm sure most people are like, oh, he's just doing
this to let the rest of the NFL know, Like, no,
I'm serious about coaching. That could be true also, But
(31:32):
if Bill Belichick wanted to accept this challenge, I think
he'd be up for it. And certainly, you know, he
just seems like one of the people coming from the
NFL that would embrace and could do the whole nil
portal the craziness that is college football right now.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
By the way, somebody told me this yesterday. Dion Sanders
has yet to make a single house visit. He's such
a rock star. Players want to come to see him.
So it's not like Belichick's going to be knocking on
doors and you know, the South trying to find a linebacker.
You know, Bill can stay home and people can visit
(32:10):
him and so listen.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
So much of being a head coach in college football
is like who can you hire, Like who's coming with you,
who believes in you, who believes that like, oh, shoot,
like this would be great for my career. And there's
a whole bunch of coaches that like learning from the
great Bill Belichick or being on staff with him, or
he's not going to do it forever, so like hey,
maybe you know, yeah, pay my dues for a couple
(32:33):
of years and then I'm moving on up. Yeah, there's listen.
I don't think it's crazy. I think coach Belichick, you know,
he's just a football coach. Shoot, if he wanted to
coach lacrosse, he'd be a good lacrosse coach. He probably
succeeded whatever he was doing. But I think there's something
intriguing about this opportunity for him. And again, I think
it comes back to the opportunity to honor that family dynamic.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, that's a great, great way to contextualize this because
I thought it was nonsense. But I get it. He's
kind of in legacy stage. I mean, if you really
think about Bill, he's got the rings and the trophies,
he's called the greatest of all time. He's in legacy stage.
Legacy is family. Matt Hasselbeck eighteen years, great sceniors always.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
Man appreciate it going always.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah, that's an interesting perspective on that. And I'll tell
you that you'd watch the games. I mean I never
watched Colorado football much. I watched the games
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Oh, it is a Monday and a busy one live
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as is customary on this show. Jmack, I am so
glad that we got the bills in the Rams, followed
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by I mean talk about two great quarterback performances, followed
by two other great quarterbacks Kansas City and the Chargers.
Because at Leedimerica's seen who's wasting talent and that's a
spice of tea. Yeah, so let's talk about that. Josh
Allen had the greatest day ever for a quarterback, three
passing touchdowns, three rushing touchdowns. It hadn't been done in
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a long time. And the Bills lost. Of course they
did because they've been wasting Josh Allen's talent forever. I mean,
the Rams had almost thirty first downs. We're eleven of
fifteen on third, almost perfect in the red zone, thirty
eight minutes time of possession. They dominated that the Bills
had a punt blocked. Stafford did whatever he wanted. You
(01:30):
ever consider rolling coverage over on Puka? It can't look
that easy if you're Matt Stafford. Was that the Bill's
scout team. Listen, Josh Allen is the greatest quarterback talent
I've ever seen. He's better than Lway, He's better than
Mahomes as a talent. Andrew Luck couldn't do that six ' six,
huge arm, two fifty five and produced four hundred plus yards. Again,
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he's done it eleven times, and you know what his
record is in those games five and six. This franchise
continues to let him down. Mahomes has the better coach
and the trophies, and is the second most talented quarterback
in this league. But if you give Patrick Mahomes or
he gives you six touchdowns Kansas City wins. There are
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games he can give you one touchdown on a pick
and Kansas City wins. Josh Allen, I mean, how many
times are we gonna see this? He literally is jaw dropping.
There's nothing you can do. He didn't scramble for nine yards,
He'll scramble for thirty nine. He doesn't throw it forty
yards on the line. He throws at fifty eight yards
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on the line. He's a jaw dropping once in a
lifetime talent. He had four touchdowns and no picks once
against this Kansas City Chiefs team, which I'll show in
a minute, and lost. Of course he did. Now I'm
looking at his numbers. It is just a total waste
of his talent. And you can blame whoever you want.
I like the owner, GM Sharp, Sean Mcdermock's good, but
I've compared to Chuck Knox, legendary bounce around coach that
(03:03):
won everywhere but couldn't get the trophy. Josh Allen is
four and five, that is it. In games in which
he produces four hundred plus yards. You know what mahomes
record is in those games? Fourteen in two ballgame, ball game.
They are wasting his talent. Yes, don't get me wrong,
(03:26):
Matt Stafford. We've been saying this for years. He's is
and was an all time passing down He's what Aaron
Rodgers wishes he was the last three years. He was
better in high school in college than Aaron. He's better
now than Aaron. He was better for the first three
to four years in the league than Aaron, but he
ended up in Detroit. Mcvay's like, get me that guy.
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They did. He's magical when he's upright. If they can
protect him, he's one of the only guys in the
league that can go toe to toe with Josh Allen.
Wow to wow to wow to wow. Seventy six percent
completion percentage, one hundred and thirty two passeray. But it
can't look that easy. I mean, the Rams were making
Josh Allen throw in tiny windows, making him run around.
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That Rams defense is young, talented, fast athletic. They were
making Josh Allen work for it. Matt Stafford, it was
like a summer drill. It was seven on seven football.
So the kid is absolutely jaw dropping, and I feel
terrible for him because they've got to do something. When
he puts the cape on Mahomes is fourteen and two
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and he is four and five. And again, it's not
like the Rams defense doesn't have talent. Their last couple
two three drafts, they've spent it on defensive guys up front,
and you can see him. But Alan's ability to cut
through it is remarkable, and yet he loses again, and
this time to an inferior team. Here is Sean McVeagh,
(04:56):
the winning coach after Josh.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Allen is an alien. Some of the stuff that he
can do and the things that he can create, we
knew he was capable of that.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
He's shown that.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
It's why he is, you know, as well respected and
regarded in this league as he is. It's all deserved
and earned. But our guys found a way to just
make enough plays to be able to come out on top.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Now, I'd like to talk about a team that doesn't
waste their quarterback's talent. The Kansas City Chiefs, who just
won their ninth straight AFC West title. Now they were
facing Justin Herbert, who was so hot in the second
half he went forever until he had an incompletion. The
pass rush for the Chargers was giving Mahomes fits. Jim
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Harbaugh made tweaks at halftime, Quinton Johnson, the receiver, redeemed himself.
I mean, the Chargers put in a fight. I've said
this all year. The Chargers feel like a little bit
of a poor man's chiefs coach, quarterback, pass rush, just
enough weapons, and they were missing their best back and
probably their best receiver. And yet did anybody doubt Read
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Mames Travis Kelsey would figure out a way to win
it in the fourth quarter. If you keep delivering on
earnings day as a CEO, it's not luck, it's a
business model. You don't do anything ten fifteen times. They're
ten to zero in one score games. Fifteen straight wins
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in one score games. That is beyond luck. That is efficiency. Luck.
Luck is like a bad team doing it two times
in a row. Luck isn't a dynasty doing it fifteen
times in a row. Some people are smarter, they're more clutch.
Kansas City, even the doinks work in their favor. But
when they called that play on the sidelines and read
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Naggy and Mahomes go over and they're talking, They've done
this now fifteen straight times, Losers call winners lucky. I'm
sure Carolina and the Bears are like, what a lucky
team winners get? How hard it is Mahomes, look at
Kelsey's sitting down. That is a designed play. They manipulated
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and toyed with a defense who's very good. And once again,
Kansas City. They've rebuilt the O line, They've rebuilt the defense,
They've two times rebuilt the receiving core for Mahomes. And
they asked Mahomes a couple of times a game to
jump into the phone booth and put on the Superman
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cape a couple times a game. The Bills asked Josh
Allen to put on the cape right before the anthem starts.
He has to come dressed as Superman because they'll have
a punt blocked or Matt Stafford will have a seven
on seven drill against them. And this is what I love.
I'll say this about New England in Brady's prime, they
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didn't know us have the best roster. But I said
this two months ago. Kansas City has become a more clever,
offensive version of what New England was. Was it lucky
when New England for twenty years kept winning all those
close games? No, it's a business model. They're just smarter
I've had multiple players and executives. They would practice things
in New England all summer long, all summer long, call
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it once in November. They were just more prepared. And
when Mahomes and Reid and Naggy are on that sideline,
it's like, yeah, it's a third down, it's over. They're
gonna get it. And again they ask Mahomes occasionally to
put on the cape. Josh Allen has to wear it
to the game. Four and five is Josh Allen in
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games in which he's Superman. Mahomes is fourteen and two.
And I love that they were juxtaposed. I love that
you got Josh Allen against the great quarterback playing out
of his mind and losing, and Mahomes playing against the
great quarterback with a team that's kind of ham and
egging at left packle. They brought a guy and he
(08:56):
got hurt. And yet winning efficiency smart when doing anything
multiple times over and over and over and over, it's
not luck. Luck is a scratch off ticket. Luck is
a losing company having in good earnings quarter. Yeah, Navidia
doing another big day for Navidia stock is not luck.
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They're ahead of the industry and that's what Kansas City
is and what New England was, and here's was my
homes after.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
As long as we have a chance to go out
there and have the football and make a play happen,
I think we're gonna make it happen to be able
to win this division, to gain another game in the playoff. Pitchers,
it was an important game for us. It's a really
good football team. We thought a gonna win, but now
we gotta keep building if we want to get to
our ultimate goal.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I actually thought that was one of the three or
four best losses of the year for the Chargers. They
didn't have their best receiver, they didn't have their best back,
and Herbert. They made adjustments at halftime. Herbert had I
think ten straight completions. They had opportunities to win the game.
They made a cup of key defensive plays. But it's
(10:01):
just it's it's very difficult when you're facing the best
quarterback along with Josh Allen Mahomes, the best coach, the
best tight end, and a team that's situationally. I mean,
I don't know how you guys watch these games. I
always feel like, yeah, they'll figure it out. That confidence
they even the Chiefs, even you know their confidence, jinks
(10:23):
in the winner. It's just who they are. It defines them.
One hundred years from now, you will talk about the
Kansas City Chiefs and you'll look at the records and
you're like, You're like, man, they want a lot of
close games. Yes, because that's what happens when you eventually
have to pay your quarterback four hundred fifty million dollars,
that you aren't very good at offensive tackle, that you
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have to make mid season moves, that you really don't
have a number one receiver, that your tight end's getting old.
He's good in spots, but not for the duration of
the season. That's what happens. But Kansas City always figures
a way to make it work, and Buffalo never does.
And I don't think that's just some zany coincidence.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
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Speaker 1 (11:13):
Was right Matt Stafford, I've said before he was better
in high school, college, in first four years in the
NFL than Aaron Rodgers, and he's better now. He was
always the most talented guy in the NFL in a
bad spot. He's only thirty six. He's got two to
three more Super Bowl runs with his young team. In
my opinion, he's still a complete workhorse fifth in path attempts.
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If they can protect him for the next three years,
there's no reason to get another quarterback on his I mean,
how many people could have beaten Josh Allen last night
Mahomes Stafford Burrough with a better defense like Stafford's in
a completely elite class, where Colin was Rough. I thought
the committee, like j Max said, would choose Alabama. I
(11:55):
think the SEC is certainly good enough to get four teams.
But Alabama lost of and by the way, that Oklahoma game,
I still can't figure out. They got run out of
the stadium against an Oklahoma team that was two and
six in the SEC. So nobody to blame except Alabama.
But I just don't think the SEC deserves just one
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more team than the ACC. So I was surprised where
Colin was right Kansas City ten and zero one possession games.
I keep pushing back on the they're lucky. No, it's
a business model. When they called that timeout in the
fourth quarter, it was Matt Naggi Mahomes and Andy Reid
and then threw to a sitting Travis Kelcey. This is
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what they do. It wasn't luck when Brady, Josh McDaniels,
Edelman and Grong did it, and it's not luck now.
Kansas City is great at it because it's the best quarterback,
the best coach, one of the best tight ends. It's
how they win where Colin was wrong. I'll stop minding
(12:57):
the Texas football someday, but it does anybody lose games.
They should win more than Texas. Georgia was down to
a backup, but they had eleven penalties and that's nineteen
penalties in two games against Georgia. Quinn Ewers, not a
huge fan, banged up a lot. Don't see a lot
of special there. They averaged one point one yards per
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rush against Georgia. Georgia couldn't run the ball in the
first half either, but when the game really mattered, suddenly Georgia,
with a backup quarterback, found a way to run the ball.
I have always loved Texas Sarks a friend. He's very
good at what he does. They recruit at an elite level,
but in these big games, not shocking that Georgia with
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better play calling, better decision making, with a backup quarterback
could win the game. Where Colin was right, this was
my concern for Caleb Williams. I don't trust the Bears ownership.
The executive suite. Yesterday was embarrassing. Seven straight losses. I mean,
they couldn't get the press conference right when they fired
Matt Eberflus. This is the concern. Again. They had a
(14:04):
chance at Jim Harbaugh, but apparently Kevin Warren, the president,
and Harbaugh have a history and it's not a good one.
They were out gained three hundred and nineteen yards to
four in the first half. That's beyond bad. That's embarrassing.
Where Colin was right. I defend Kyler Murray more than anybody,
but you know something, and somebody mentioned this to me
a couple of weeks ago. When he starts poorly, he
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gets moody, his body language changes. It's it's just a fact.
And that game early he played poorly and it felt like, yeah,
it's over. He only has well, only one game all
year with over one touchdown pass. And again I defend him,
but he is five nine and a half. There was
the internet gaming over study issue. I don't love his
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body language when he starts slow. He's got five picks
in the last three games, and I don't think it's talent.
I like Arizona's defensive effort. I like their coach, I
like their weapons. Some of this my bad is just
on Tyler Murray. Where Colin was right, Robert Sala got fired.
I said, you're nuts, he's the best coach on the staff.
(15:09):
Yesterday's a prime example. Tua dropped to throw forty seven times,
no sacks, barely got hit. Would that happen with Robert
Sala as the head coach. The Jets are a circus
and I never bought into them as a playoff team,
but they're one in seven since Robert Sala got fired,
and they couldn't get to Tuo with their defensive personnel,
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and their corners didn't like the firing. Never let the
best coach out of the building. Where Colin was wrong.
I thought Kirk Cousins for about a year and a
half was a really good signing as Michael Penni's the
rookie waited and watched, kind of a Flaco Lamar Jackson thing.
But boy, Kirk has aged quickly. Last four games, zero touchdowns,
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eight picks. Listen, he's older, he's never been a dynamic athlete,
but I mean in the fourth order this year and
we've seen a little bit of this Aaron Rodgers. He
has a fifty six passer rating. So I thought Kirk
Cousins for a year and a half until maybe late
October next year that handed the Pennix was the right call.
I did not think it would look like this by December,
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where Colin was right. I said in preseason, keep your
eye on my dark horse pick for the National Championship.
The Tennessee Volunteers only losses Georgia and on the road
at Arkansas. They're ten and two. They now face Ohio State,
and Tennessee's defensive line is the elite, and Ohio State's
offensive line has been injured for the last several weeks.
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Ryan Days on the hot seat. Josh Heipel's one of
the best young coaches. I actually think Tennessee is better
served facing arguably the first or second best team be
a giant killer early in this playoff. So Tennessee was
my pick for the NATTY. I didn't look very smart
middle of the season. If I'm Ohio State this is
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one of the last teams I want to face. Tremendous
defensive line against us SO. So Ohio State banged up
offensive line where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong.
And with that, Matt Hasselbeck, eighteen years Super Bowls, three
time Pro Bowler joins us SO. I want to start.
(17:22):
And it sounded kind of harsh, but Mahomes is fourteen
and two in games, and when he puts the cape
on and all you guys have pretty good Yeah, pretty good,
and we all know and he reads great. Now, Josh
Allen's five and six. And I sat there yesterday and
I was happy for Matt Stafford, who we both think
is great. But I thought, now, you gotta win these games.
(17:45):
You can't have a pump blocked. It can't be that
easy for Matt Stafford. I have moved to the point
where I think they need to do something if they
can't get through, they are really built to win it all.
You got a Kansas City team, Matt, that can't get
their tackles right. What did you make of the Buffalo
loss despite Josh's performance.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Yeah, listen, it's like a Hallmark movie. I mean, if
you've seen that Kansas City Chiefs movie. I highly recommend it,
but it's like a happy ending. No matter what drama
is going on during the day, they're going to find
a way and listen. I just think it's intangibles For
Kansas City. It's players that are playing, a group of
players playing above the x's and o's and right now,
unfortunately for Josh Allen, he just was born at the
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wrong time. I mean, Josh Allen to me is the
MVP this year. He's absolutely incredible, a ton of fun
to watch. But when you're playing in the AFC and
you're playing in a tight game, certain teams know how
to finish and you just know that they're going to
do it, and other teams are struggling to learn how.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
To do it.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
I thought last night Buffalo had an opportunity, but they
made a couple calculated mistakes that ended up costing them
the game. Now they'll learn from that and they'll be
better for it. But when you talk about Kansas City,
they're just a team that has those intangibles and other
people besides just the quarterback who can rise above.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
So there was a moment on the sideline. It was
a big third down late in the game. For Kansas
City and I want you to take me there. It
was Naggie Read and Mahomes and they went over there
and he's like yeah, yeah, yeah, so like it. And
then they throw to Travis Kelsey who's sitting down. What
are they saying right there? Probably yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
So usually the night before, on that big call sheet,
that Andy Reid call sheet, you'll have fourth and two
to win the game. You probably don't have third and
seven with under two minutes ago, Like, what are we
going to call? But they called a safe play and
Kelsey on that play, he's got what's called a corner route.
A seven route seven, eight, and nine are your deeper
routes in like the passing tree. He's supposed to go
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to the back corner of the end zone. He immediately
realizes that it's not there. Andy Reid lets his star
players play within the system with creativity, and he knows
where his teammates are not going to be. So Kelsey,
being on the same page, being a Hall of Fame player,
puts his own cape on. Mahomes is ready for it.
He basically runs what equates to a seven stop. He
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comes back into the area Mahomes isn't surprised by it.
Kelsey's confident that he can do it. And this is
just an example of two Hall of Fame players playing
above the x's and o's. Quite honestly, the Chargers, you know,
defensive coordinator Minter, he's sitting there, he's got the perfect
play call on Like they're sitting in the defensive staff
meeting today being like what would you do different? Like nothing,
(20:26):
we called the perfect call. These guys just rose above.
And you know, I think some of that is continuity
and playing together, but a lot of it also is
a coach like Andy Reid, allowing those guys to have
some creativity within the playbook.
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Speaker 1 (20:51):
So obviously, when you watch a Lamar or a Maholmes
or like a Brett farvarn Allen, the talent's incredible. I
could figure it out. Stafford doesn't run around, he's not gigantic,
he's not leaping over people. But it's like there's a
there's an old saying an actor's actor, a comedian's comedian.
I always look at Stafford. I'm like other quarterbacks must
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look at him. And God didn't give him every gift.
He doesn't run around, he's not the biggest guy. I
don't know if I've ever seen a guy make it
look that easy, Like what's his gift?
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Yeah, listen, I'm a huge fan. I think he's one
of the best quarterbacks. But I think any franchise quarterback,
if you're able to protect for him like in the past,
like pass protection wise, keep the defense off balance, no sacks,
no hits like that kind of a thing, it'll be
seven on seven for anybody, especially for Matthew Stafford. So
I thought what Sean McVeigh did is he understands what
(21:42):
the kryptonite is of the Buffalo defense. There really aren't
that great if you commit to run in the ball, like,
if you commit to it, you run the ball. I
think that's the there kryptonite. And they got to prove
that it's not. They got a tough one against Detroit
coming up, and there's blood in the water and they're
coming for it too. They're gonna have to prove that
they can do that. No room, no swim moves on
(22:03):
a running play no spin moves on a running play,
you better be gap sound, and I think that's what
the Rams did. McVeigh using Stafford to get him into
the right runs, using play action, getting changing the launch
point for the quarterback. I mean, they were really doing
whatever they wanted to do last night. But the tendency
sometimes is to get away from the run when you
know you're going up against the Josh Allen explosive type
(22:25):
of type of offense on the other side. I thought
McVeigh and Stafford were outstanding last night. And now the
Buffalo defense has to prove to the rest of the league,
mainly Detroit next that you know they will basically stop
the run first, which is the goal of most defenses.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
So it's interesting with Darnold he can you can let
him walk out the door. And now JJ McCarthy, who
was at a running team in Michigan. He wasn't a
thirty five. I mean they didn't throw the ball at
Penn State on the road. He's talented, but now he
just had a second surgery on his right me and
Daniel Jones is more of a backup than a foundational
(23:03):
quarterback piece. And here's Donald and listen, I know he
can be reckless, but I mean, he's had two games
that he didn't play well and now he's got I think,
does he have like eleven games with a passer rating
over one hundred. I would franchise tag him. Matt. I
just couldn't let him out of the building. What do
you do if you ran the team? Well?
Speaker 5 (23:25):
A couple of things. First off, on JJ McCarthy. The
knee surgery doesn't worry me at all. It's a meniscus. First,
you try to, you know, see if you can do
it one way. If it doesn't work, he just fixed
the whole thing, that doesn't concern me. But if I'm
Sam Donald, first of all, if I'm the Vikings, I
try to keep Sam darnal, no doubt about it.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
He's earned it, He's played out standing.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
If this last game didn't improve it to you, you know,
I don't know what will. But if I'm Sam Donald,
it's not just about the money, okay, Like you should
want to stay in Minnesota. Also, you should value what
you have there in a coach, a head coach that
understands how to see things through the quarter lens, and
I believe he does that.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
I think that Sam Darnold understands this.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
He was in He was at the New York Jets,
who don't understand how to help a young quarterback. He
was at Carolina, who don't understand how to help a
young quarterback. And then he got a taste of it
in San France, and he's like, you know what, there's value,
there's money.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
I'd be willing to give.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Up to be something, be in the right place, in
the right offense.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
And that's how he ended up in Minnesota in the
first place.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
So now that he's tasted it, I mean, he's already
been to kind of that like quarterback prison.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
He doesn't want to go back.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
So if I'm him, I stay in this kind of
an offense no matter what.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
And truly, even if you feel a.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Little disrespected that they haven't come to you with a
deal yet. I if I'm him, if I'm his friend,
I would say, hey, listen, remember what it was like
when you were with the Jets in Carolina.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
You might want to take less money to stay in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, you know, it was almost predictable. Philadelphia has got
you know, they've played very well. They have a big
game coming up. Here comes Carolina and Listen, you guys are,
and you pro athletes. You know who's good and who's not.
You watch the film. I don't expect pro athletes to be,
you know, at the highest apex of their emotions for
seventeen eighteen weeks. That's just I get it. In January.
You are, but you guys watch film and you know
(25:13):
who can play. But I do think there's something about
Philadelphia that listen, AJ Brown feels like sometimes he leads
the offense, he and Saquon. Would you be a little
worried about Philadelphia's ability to I mean, if they have
to play catch up fast, Rams could do it, Bills
could do a lot of teams can that passing games.
(25:37):
It's just not there. And that means if you have
to catch up quick, it can be They'll kill the
clock with Saquon. But do you worry about the AJ Brown,
Jalen Hurts and sort of the pedestrian nature of the
passing game sometimes.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Well, I would just say on every team you're gonna
deal with star wide receivers kind of having that like
I don't know, I don't call it diva, but like
you know, hey, I was open, Like yeah, I know
you were open. But there's there's there's a bigger situation here,
you know. I would use like Jamar Chase as an example.
I think he's one of the smartest wide receivers in
the game, one of the best receivers in the game.
He's putting up crazy numbers, but he gets frustrated sometimes
(26:14):
because there's other things going on around him that he's
maybe not fully aware of. I think the same thing's
kind of happened in Philly. So I think the key
right there is for them to like just stick together.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Yeah, would he like to? Would aj Brown like to
be more explosive in the passing game? Sure?
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Sure, I think that'll come for them. I'm still believing
in this team. I just I guess what my point
is is like, there's gonna be roller coasters of emotions
throughout throughout the NFL season where guys get frustrated. Can
you stick together? I believe Jalen Hurts is a great leader.
I think Nick Sirianni's the perfect coach for this team.
And I think if that that group of guys in
(26:49):
that locker room sticks together, weather's the storm Dallas Goddards
out for a little while. If they can stick together
I still think the Philadelphia Eagles are alive for that
one seed in the NFCU in the NFC, people are
gonna be all talking about Detroit. I get it, they're great.
They're gonna talk about Minnesota. They're on fire. I get it,
they're great. But don't sleep on Philly. Like I just,
(27:13):
I really think that this is just the normal ebbs
and flows human nature. Hopefully they learn their lesson for
you know what they did, you know yesterday showing up
in Carolina thinking that they're automatically gonna win because.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
Of the emblem on their helmet.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
That's not how it goes. And you know, hopefully they're
better for it. But I think Philly's got some good football.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Ahead of them.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, I mean, listen, I think their roster, along with Detroit,
is the best in football. I do want to talk
about this. So you had multiple coaches, and so I
was talking to a friend yesterday, my buddy John Middlecoffee
is a former scout for the Eagles, and I said,
if you look at organizations that are broken, hiring a
schematic wizard doesn't necessarily solve it. What solved it in
(27:54):
Detroit was a culture builder. Dan Campbell, ultimate Alpha, and
then he found a skama a guy the Chargers were broken,
Harbaugh not a schematic whiz, a culture builder. Jamiko Ryans
had that reputation as well, tough guy, all business, detail,
no nonsense, could do schematics, but basically hired Bobby Sloweck
(28:16):
to take care of that. I look at the Bears
and I think this isn't about getting a clever offensive coordinator.
I need a Mike Rabel, I need to I need
I need a Dan Campbell. And you had a variety
of coaches, and you you had some great coaches. But
when something's broken in the NFL, does a schematic guy
(28:40):
necessarily solve it?
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Listen, there's a there's a lot of things that need
to be fixed in Chicago, you know. I think the
thing you need to get right is the quarterback. And
they've got a very talented quarterback who's not playing very
good football, and so there's a lot of reasons for that.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
I think he's got talent around him.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
But I think, whoever you are in this case, if
we're talking about Caleb Williams, I think you just need
to look in the mirror and say, Okay, what can
I do to get better?
Speaker 6 (29:09):
There's a lot that's outside.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Of his control, but what is in his control and
some of those things are leadership things. Some of those
things are playing the position. You know, that's the one
thing about being the number one pick overall, you don't
get to choose what franchise you go to. THO some
of those things are outside your control. But again, I think,
I think the way to do it is to, you know,
(29:30):
look in the mirror and focus on what you can control.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Finally, Bill Belichick spent five hours with a chancellor at
North Carolina. I don't see this as a fit. I
was just talking to Jmac. You know, there are mission
Impossible and Tom Cruise. The reason it's so great, it's
a perfect fit. A physical actor with a lot of
(29:54):
juice and mission and pop. Not every actor fits that role.
Belichick in college, he didn't cater to Brady. Does this
feel like a fit to you.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
I would say, I mean, listen, I'm sure Coach Belichick
will talk sometime soon this week and kind of you know,
shoot the record.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Straight or whatever, but yeah, this could work.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
There's a lot of people that are coaching in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
They don't want to go to college because of how
much work it is and the challenge in mil and
transfer portal. We're gonna know soon whether this is real
or not because the college timeline for hiring coaches is
pretty immediate. You got all these guys in the portal
right now, you need a plan sign they just happened.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
I don't think Bill Belichick's afraid of it. And I think.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
There's one thing that people in the media and fans
they discount that they should put more stock in, and
that's family. Like if you get the chance to coach
with your son, or coach at a place where your
father used to coach, Like, there's some things that I
would just say are kind of like intangible. So you
got Bill Belichick right now, who's out, he's not coaching.
(30:59):
You've got his son, Steve Belichick, who's the decordinator for
Jetfish at the University of Washington. Like I could see
a scenario where Bill Belichick says, you know what, I
love it.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
I can do it.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
I've got friends Bill O'Brien who's doing it. I got
friends Nick Saban. I watched do It, Like I can
do this. I like this challenge. I think this is
a sleeping giant UNC got all the Jordan money. Like,
there's a scenario where I think this is real, and
I'm sure most people are like, oh, he's just doing
this to let the rest of the NFL know, Like, no,
I'm serious about coaching. That could be true also, But
(31:32):
if Bill Belichick wanted to accept this challenge, I think
he'd be up for it. And certainly, you know, he
just seems like one of the people coming from the
NFL that would embrace and could do the whole nil
portal the craziness that is college football right now.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
By the way, somebody told me this yesterday. Dion Sanders
has yet to make a single house visit. He's such
a rock star. Players want to come to see him.
So it's not like Belichick's going to be knocking on
doors and you know, the South trying to find a linebacker.
You know, Bill can stay home and people can visit
(32:10):
him and so listen.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
So much of being a head coach in college football
is like who can you hire, Like who's coming with you,
who believes in you, who believes that like, oh, shoot,
like this would be great for my career. And there's
a whole bunch of coaches that like learning from the
great Bill Belichick or being on staff with him, or
he's not going to do it forever, so like hey,
maybe you know, yeah, pay my dues for a couple
(32:33):
of years and then I'm moving on up. Yeah, there's listen.
I don't think it's crazy. I think coach Belichick, you know,
he's just a football coach. Shoot, if he wanted to
coach lacrosse, he'd be a good lacrosse coach. He probably
succeeded whatever he was doing. But I think there's something
intriguing about this opportunity for him. And again, I think
it comes back to the opportunity to honor that family dynamic.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, that's a great, great way to contextualize this because
I thought it was nonsense. But I get it. He's
kind of in legacy stage. I mean, if you really
think about Bill, he's got the rings and the trophies,
he's called the greatest of all time. He's in legacy stage.
Legacy is family. Matt Hasselbeck eighteen years, great sceniors always.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
Man appreciate it going always.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah, that's an interesting perspective on that. And I'll tell
you that you'd watch the games. I mean I never
watched Colorado football much. I watched the games
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