June 30, 2025 • 38 mins
Colin reacts to breaking NFL news with the Steelers trading for 3-time All Pro Jalen Ramsey continuing to add to their defense despite the NFL clearly trending towards offense-first over the past 10 years. Colin tells you why he was right about LeBron James but wrong about James Harden. Plus, he talks to 3-time Pro Bowl quarterback Matt Hasselbeck about the expectations for Caleb Williams in year 2 and why his leadership needs to improve significantly
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
It is a Monday, lots going on. We are live.
It is the Herd. Wherever you may be and however
you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of
your day. Jamac I was thinking about this this morning
when a story broke, is that, you know, all of
us have budgets. Most of us have budgets, not everybody,
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but you can kind of tell what people spend their
money on by the time they're fifty or sixty based
on the kind of financial situation they're in. You know,
tell my kids all the time, Dad doesn't have a
problem with you spending money, spend on the right stuff,
spending on smart stuff. And there's an NFL team that
has driven me crazy for about five years, the Pittsburgh
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Steelers and breaking news this morning.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
J mac.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
They did it again this morning.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
So the Steelers can't stop spending money on defense. So
this morning, what do you know, bounce around the league guy,
Jalen Ramsey twenty six and a half million dollars. The
Steelers went and got him. Now, they did move off
of Minka Fitzpatrick. But Minca is low maintenance, seven million
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dollars a year, cheaper a leader in the room, not
a bounce around the league guy. So the Steelers can't
help themselves. Now they're spending seven and a half million
dollars more than they were yesterday in the secondary. And
for the record, Pittsburgh has led the NFL in defensive
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spending three years in a row. This will guarantee it's four.
The New York Giants and the Steelers spend all their
money on defense. You know who spends it on offense?
The Rams and the Eagles have the two cheapest defenses today,
and the Chiefs spend the most money in the league
on offense. Chiefs, Steelers, Rams. What do they have in common? Momentum?
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Winning perpetually interesting. In the NFL, everybody's got a budget,
it's called the cap. Where do you spend their money?
I've told my kids, my entire life. The two ease
education and experiences. That's where I'm going to spend my
money on great memorable things when dad has gone, great
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memories and to educate.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
All Right, if you're.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Spending on cars a third, if you're spending it on clothes,
I'm going to be able to tell over time you
didn't spend it wisely. Stop spending money on defense. I thought, oh,
they're moving off Mika Fitzpatrick, who didn't have a great year.
I mean he was like fifty second ranked safety. A
good player, but a team leader. And by the way,
they're number one in defensive spending and they don't have
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the TJ. Watt contract finalized. That's going to be forty
five million annually, So you have that TJ. Watt issue
to deal with. And he's your best defensive player and
Jalen Ramsey two things. He's a very very loose player.
That's why the Rams moved off him. They wouldn't bad
mouth him publicly. But he's kind of an independent guy
doing his own thing. He's an independent contractor. He's going
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to do what he wants on his terms. And the
Rams after he got burned two or three times in
that playoff Super Bowl run. You know they got tired
of it. So he's also a player. He's very dependent
on his environment, and so when he was with the
loose Dolphins and the loose Jacksonville Jaguar organizations, he wasn't
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as good.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
He was loose, he made mistakes.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
When the Rams got him, I thought at his he
was probably the best Jayalen Ramsey, I've said this for
about Randy Moss. When Randy had the Patriots, he broke
NFL records. When he was with the stable Vikings, Randy
Moss was great putting.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
On the Raiders. Uh oh.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So there's just a lot of people in life, and
a lot of professional athletes in life. They're very much
a reflection of the environment they're in. And so Minka Fitzpatrick,
he's going to be good anywhere. It didn't matter if
the Steelers are loose. Minka Fitzpatrick is a pro, a leader, dependable.
Jalen Ramsey much more reflection of the environment. So he
goes to an organization that remember last week, Remember James
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Harrison last week saying the best part about Mike Tomlin
he's a players coach.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
The worst part about Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
He's really a player's coach, and some players are not
great with players coaches. Now, James Harrison was undrafted, totally driven,
a complete grinder, absolutely laser focused. But not every Steeler,
as we've found out, is James Harrison. So this is
a great example of how do you spend your money?
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Chiefs Rams Eagle, they spend it on offense. They win
every year. The Steelers and the Giants keep doubling down
on defense. It's weird. It's almost as if the Steelers,
trying to solve their offensive issues, looked at last year's
Jets and said, let's do what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Remember what the Jets did.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
They added Hassan Reddick, didn't really need him, and then
signed Aaron Rodgers. The Steelers, wait, give us some of that.
Let's sign a guy that really isn't as productive as
he used to be on defense and is not an
expensive and a forty year old quarterback. I'm just going
to say this probably don't want to watch the New
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York Jets ever and say I'll take two heaping tablespoons
of what the New York Jets are doing, and that
looks That's what the Steelers did this morning. I could
have been okay getting and moving off Mika Fitzpatrick though
I liked him, But then adding a guy that's looser
as a bounce around the league guy. Now and this
seven and a half million dollars more you're guaranteed to
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pay pre TJ Watt contract not good. Let's talk about
something that is good. So we are one year away,
I think it's eleven months. One year away from the
World Cup on US soil. And it's a biggie because
this is the best group of talent we've ever had
in terms of attacking and scoring. Now many of them
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are not playing. This is sort of our B team.
But we were on a four game skid before the
Gold Cup. But our biggest issue before the Gold Cup
is we don't have a goalie. Before yesterday we didn't
have a goalie, and last night we finally found one.
Matt Freeze, who may have struggled for a moment against Haiti,
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but against Costa Rica in the shootout, he was absolutely brilliant.
First of all, Matt Freeze in the shootout three different
times made us save that is remarkable. Another two times
he got his hand on it. So say what you
want about shootouts. I hear people they're not real soccer.
Yes they are, Yes they are. They're better than our
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overtimes in college and pro football and their tension filled
and they're all about execution. And that's the one thing
we were worried about with Team USA without Christian Polisic.
Can we execute when we get penalty kicks, when we
get corner kicks, when we have set pieces? Can we execute?
Because when you have Polisic, it always seems to work.
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So tip of the cap to Tyler Adams and Malik
Tillman and Alex Freeman and Damian Downs.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
But we did not have a goalie.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
In fact, on the pregame show, our guys were saying
on Fox, is Matt Turner going to start? Matt Freeze
had And We've had incredible goalies in my lifetime. We're
a hands country. We're good when you need to use hands,
not always great with Jeff's feet. But Matt Freeze, after
that Haiti moment where he froze, you're thinking we're not
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good enough to be bad in the nets. We're just
not good enough. Matt Freeze yesterday the greatest moment in
the entire Gold Cup, not just for us. It was
tension filled and by the way, wasn't the world last
World Cup decided.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
By p case.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yes, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna spend some time
debating whether or not shootouts matter. They're all about execution
and that's what wins in the World Cup. Details goaltending
and execution. And also on Mauricio Pochettino, it should be
noted made three changes to the lineup and two of
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the guys that were inserted in scored, so that momentum
as we're onto the semis, regardless of what happens next,
you have a sense of execution. We found our goalie,
which is absolutely essential in the World Cup. And we
always talk about offensive lines in the NFL. You're just
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not going to a Super Bowl with a bad old line.
Patrick Mahomes has been blown out twice in his career,
like humiliated twice in Super Bowls when the old line
was a mess. You can't win a Super Bowl with
a bad old line. And you're not winning a World
Cup or or you're gonna struggle to get out of
a group stage, and maybe maybe unless you're like a
Brazil or Argentina, you're gonna struggle to get out of
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the group stage unless you're really good in goal at
Matt Freeze yesterday talked about his remarkable performance.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Penalties are my thing.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
You know, I've been the plane ride over here to
UH to Minnesota, I was studying the penalties and so
you know, I've been stunning them all week and I
was ready for it if you needed it. And the
one that I didn't didn't move on suggestion from my
goalkeeper coach Tony Jimenez, and uh, you know, he was
the here's the reason I saved his made.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
So I gotta tell you, j Mac, there's very few
things in sports in America globally that are more riveting
than when you go to PKS. I'm sitting there for
ten minutes and I'm in the world stops and it
was like a real moment, and all of a sudden,
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when Burholter's son misses, I'm like, oh, no, this is
gonna go sideways.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
No, this can't happen.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
But our guys delivered and it was about as good
as ten to twelve minutes of live sports can be.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
So tip of the cap to our guys.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Yeah, and let's be real, they are heavy favorites in
the semifinals against Guatemala.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yes, and we're looking at.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
A USA Mexico final, which would be incredible obviously for
the country.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
For soccer fans.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
I will say soccer purists, Colin, they hate pks as
an ending. Yeah, they're like all this running around for
two you know, two hours and we end up penalty kicks.
So silly, But you're right, thrilling television, just gripping.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Well, remember, if you run around for two hours, the
last thing that's going to decide it is running around
for another fifteen minutes. This is soccer, perhaps not at
its purest form, but at its most crucial form of execution.
I mean when you watch the great teams that win
the World Cup, goal scores and goalkeeping decide World Cups.
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That's what decides it. The great attacker, the great score,
and somebody makes a great save and you put them
up front, up close and personal. This is what's going
to decide this match. And again, if you go ninety
minutes and you're tied, often in the blazing sun, I
don't need you to play longer. I want execution and
their team USA deliberate it.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
Let me quickly add you know we talked about like, Hey,
this is the B team with some C guys. They're
not going to be in the World Cup. Freeze just
made a case to Potchat. Hey, man, I know Matt
Turner's a guy I won in. I want a legitimate shot. Yeah,
and Diego Luna has been playing incredible, incredible, certified a
spot for himself.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Tyler Sears team, Tyler Adams, I should make the team
as well.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
So I did.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Thinkino came out and I'm gonna make some lineup changes
and they all worked.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
And he's always.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Been a fan of change and youth and development, so
that's why they brought him in and moved off Greg Berhalzer.
Pcino's strength is I'm gonna use young guys, I'm gonna
develop them, I'm gonna give them opportunities, and they delivered.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
We're gonna beat Guatemala, that's for sure. Lock that up,
and then we're in the finals and then it's hey,
we play Mexico, hopefully in what should be another classic
game between the two countries.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Yep, I can't wait.
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Speaker 1 (13:06):
Where Colin was right, Where Colin was wrong, Where Colin
was right, Lebron opted in. I had said this was
it two three months ago. When Lebron hinted it retirement.
I said, oh my god, are we going to do
this again. It's four years in a row. It's like
the Brett Farb Tour. Lebron's not retiring. He's too good.
He plays joyfully. Los Angeles is good for him. He's
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got Luka Dantag. Yes he'll opt in, Yes he's gonna play.
It's nonsense, and.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
We were right.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Well.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
A week ago, goalie Matt Freeze, I said, look too
anxious over his head, nervous, probably not our answer for
the United States men's national team in goal. And then
yesterday during PK's three saves, got his hand on two others.
He rose to the moment. In my opinion, I mean
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he's secured the goalie job for Team USA. Where Colin
was right. Kaylin Clark isn't just the best young player
in the WNBA.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
She's Tiger Woods.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yesterday sold out her shoe in ten minutes, according to reports,
ten minutes.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
She's getting the.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Most votes in the All Star Game. She's driving half
of the league's television ratings. I said a year ago,
she is Taylor Swift with a jumper. She is not
just helping the league. She literally got a teammate's jersey
sold out in fifteen minutes. Sophia Cunningham just by proxy,
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a player that had been in the league seven years,
just a teammate. She's getting stuff sold out. She is
bigger than either even the WNBA, which has finally come
around acknowledges where Colin was right. Former Pittsburgh's Steeler James
Harrison last week admitted what we've been on for years.
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Mike Tomlin's strength, he's a players coach. Mike Tomlin's weakness,
he's a players coach. Yes, many players can handle that,
but increasingly guys like Jalen Ramsey, who's only but as
good as the structure. He's been supported by the Rams.
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It doesn't work. So this is what I've said about
the Steelers for years. I'm not saying Mike Tomlin can't coach,
but he's loose and details win in December, January and
February and James Harrison admitting the organization is to player friendly.
Where Colin was wrong, James Harden signed another deal two years,
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forty plus million a year. Listen, I last year he
shot forty one percent from the field. He doesn't defend,
he never shows up in the playoffs. I am not
denying his greatness. I am not denying his Hall of
Fame stature. I'm not denying offensive leads one of the
great guards of all time. But if Steve Balmer cares
about winning and culture and how do you win in
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the playoffs, who is the best defensive team in the league?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Ok? See who won? OKC. That's not the way to
do it.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Where Colin was right, Sean Payton ranked number two coaching
in the NFL by PFF. Andy Reid number one. I
just saw this weekend. He took a bad offensive line.
The old line is now ranked number two. He took
over a shaky defense. They led the NFL in sacks.
They upgraded a safety and linebacker on players that were
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just niners a year ago. He inherited a horrible culture,
a mess at quarterback, moved off Russell Wilson, dead cap money,
and in a division with Andy Reid and Jim Harbaugh,
took a rookie quarterback to the playoffs. This is what
I've been saying about Sean Payton. He is direct, he
is kurt. He can turn people off. He is brilliant.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I said last week there's seven athletes in America that
are untradeable. Aaron Judge is absolutely won yesterday to homers
four RBIs leads baseball at three fifty six, second in
home runs. He's not just a great Yankee. He went
on a brief hitting slump the Yankees got shut out.
He is literally the centerpiece as good as Otawny is.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
If he takes a day off.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I got Mokie Betts, I got Maximunse, I got Freddie Freeman.
He is the centerpiece of East Coast baseball.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Where Colin was robbed.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Austin Reeves declined ninety million from the Lakers. Why his
representation believes open market or the Lakers. In a year,
he's gonna get closer to one hundred and fifty million.
I'd trade him tomorrow for Derek White. I think he's
a really good B player. They're nights. He has an
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a offensive night, but he's not dynamic vertically.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
He's a good shooter, not elite. But I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Because apparently often in his reps CNA player where Colin
was right, What do you know? The Tampa Bay Buccaneers
extended Jason Light the GM. Do you realize the team
with the longest active playoffs streak in the NFC is
the Box, not the Eagles or the Ravens or the Rams.
Excuse me, Ravens refc Jason Light one of the best
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scouts ever been on this for years. Tampa Bay for
years had excellent rosters. They couldn't get the quarterback right.
Jason got Baker when a lot of people were doubting him.
He was one of only two gms that aggressively pursued
Tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Tampa will remain talent.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Rich as long as Jason Light is the GM one
more heard.
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Speaker 1 (19:07):
And with that, Matt Hasselbeck is joining us, and he's
joining us live. Okay, So I want to get into
the Caleb Williams thing before I get into the Jayalen
Ramsey thing. Is that I've always felt this, even with
my kids, when I had six different kids. If they
were struggling, little unstable stuffs in their head, number one
rule was just stabilize them. I'm not worried about growth.
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I'm just let's stabilize. And I tend to believe that
with quarterbacks, with a young quarterback, I'm not looking for growth.
With Caleb Williams, it was such a mess last year.
Just cut the sacks in half. I don't care about
anything else. So I maybe I'm being a little over
the top. But when people suggest they want him to
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go to thirty touchdowns and four thousand yards, I'm like,
I don't care. The sacks are everything to me. How
does that land for you?
Speaker 8 (19:57):
Well, it's certainly number one. You got to walk before
you can run, is how I would say it. But
I like to give quarterbacks usually two or three things
to really focus in on and improve on from one
year to the next. I think that's what helped me
the most. Sacks would definitely be at the top of
the list. Sacks hurt your team, They hurt your offensive line,
they hurt morale, they hurt your own personal like your
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physic out of your body.
Speaker 9 (20:21):
But it's also very bad.
Speaker 8 (20:22):
On the defense, that field position game. So it's a
you know, this idea of protect the team. Sacks are
an absolute killer. I thought, if you know, if we
were assigning blame to why so many sacks last year
in Chicago, the majority of the sacks were not the
fault of the offensive line. They were the fault of
the young quarterback. It's very common. It's not special to Caleb.
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We've all lived it, and that's an area that he
needs to improve on, and I think he probably will,
but it needs to be pretty significant.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
You know, when you say he's got to get better,
is that is that pre snap.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Is that holding the ballt some guy.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
There's people open, they just don't they want to they're
seeking a bigger play. When you watched him, what did
you see? Why was he inducing sacks?
Speaker 8 (21:11):
Well, I think early on, you know, early on, his
eyes were in the wrong place. It didn't look like
it didn't look like he had a clear grasp of
the protection schemes.
Speaker 9 (21:20):
I think that was a big part of it.
Speaker 8 (21:22):
Now, they made the head coaching change, and they made
the offensive coordinator change. His position coach, you know, was
in the room with him calling plays. The offensive coordinator knew,
and I think they simplified it and they brought it down.
But I think what got him into trouble in the
second part of the year was he trusted his in
his athleticism so much like you saw these things where
he got away with it at USC, You're not going
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to get away with it in the NFL. And I
think that's one of the hard things for quarterbacks who
have great mobility.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
Uh, it's it's it's I would.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
Say it's great mobility in college and it's just kind
of like good mobility in the NFL.
Speaker 9 (21:55):
And there's a fine line there.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
But I think he needs to play on time more
than he did, and uh, maybe a little bit less
of the playground stuff save that for when you absolutely
need it.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, you know, it reminds me of a mat a
little of golf, where everybody wants to buy a new driver,
and it's like, if you're putting improves, your score improves.
The driver is not going to win your strokes. It's
all around the greens, right, So I think, Yeah, with Caleb,
I don't worry about his driving. You got to make
the pots in the red zone.
Speaker 9 (22:24):
Well, it's putt, it's what is it putt for dough?
Drive for show?
Speaker 8 (22:28):
You know, I would say, I would say in a
similar way somewhere on that list. I think number two
for me would just probably be overall leadership, like we're
looking at you. I mentioned body language like that bothers me.
That really bothered me how he handled that last year.
But then also like you know, you can't miss the layups,
you can't miss the free throws. He is, he's gonna
have splash plays, but he's also going to miss some
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wide open guys, or he did last year. And I
think that's another area, probably that third area that I
think he needs to improve on.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
All right, So been on this for a while. The
Eagles and the Chiefs spend all their money on offense.
The league ten years ago, after that CTE check they
wrote moved to benefiting the offense. So there's limitations even
a great defense. Couple of years ago the Niners had
a great defense. They faced Mahomes he ate them alive.
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There's just limitations on what a great defense can do
because of rule changes. So the Steelers this morning said
we're gonna spend even more money on defense. We'll move
off MinC and get Ramseys. Like, guys, how about just
move off MinC go get more offense.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
So what do you make of the Jalen Ramsey move
to the Steelers?
Speaker 8 (23:36):
Now, Listen, the Steelers are just gonna do what the
Steelers do. They do not care about the rest of
the league. They don't care about what anybody else does.
They say, Hey, we're the Steelers, this is how we operate.
So I don't think that's going to change. But I
do think this it looks like they're building a team
to stop the Cincinnati Bengals. Like when I look at them,
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I really feel like they're coming up with, like what
is our identity going to be. It's almost like they
have confidence in what they have, like what we have
can take care of the Baltimore Ravens, like.
Speaker 9 (24:06):
We're good, But like, man, I don't know how we're
going to stop the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
Like I do believe that there's a fear there of
like personnel wise, we don't match up well with them,
and the Steelers and some other teams that have always
been like thirty four defenses, three down linemen, four linebackers,
they're playing more of this four two five four down linemen,
two inside or four rushers, two inside backers, and five dbs.
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And I think what kind of dbs is where they've
you know.
Speaker 9 (24:35):
They now have some flexibility.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
They basically have three corners to go to go up
and fight, kind of like that Joe Burrow three wide
receiver set.
Speaker 9 (24:43):
So I think that's a trend league wide.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
Certainly the Steelers look like they feel pretty good about
that trend as well. Yeah, okay, well listen, if I'm
going to give you some confidence about it, I do
think that there's a play here for the offense. You know,
like Arthur Smith ident last year you saw he went
with a lot of twelve personnel. Thirteen personnel meaning two
tight ends in the game or three tight ends in
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the game. I think they just want to get a
little more talented.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
At that spot. Three different guys.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
They've got Friar Move, They've got Darnell Washington, who's a
joy to watch in the running game.
Speaker 9 (25:17):
I mean, he's a monster.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
And then they go get John new Smith, a player
that I think is more wide receiver than his tight end.
Speaker 9 (25:24):
Arthur Smith's been with him a few times, loves him.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
I know that as this as the league goes to
kind of what I was talking about, five dbs on
the field more, the Steelers and Arthur Smith look like
they're saying, Okay, you want to get cute with five vb's,
We're going to smash it down your throat.
Speaker 9 (25:39):
We're going to have a bruising, bruising running game.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
And we can still throw it with these guys, shifts, motions,
all that kind of stuff. It's identity for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Again,
we don't care what the rest of the league is doing.
We're doing what we're doing, and I think having a
clear identity is very.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Helpful, you know, I think over I obviously people have
been hiring offensive coaches more than defensive coaches. Whenever there's
a big opening, you olways see four offensive guys for
a defensive guy. And that's not to say guys like
Demko Ryans can't work on the other side. But I
was also thinking about something the other day, is that
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I there's a lot of people. Mike McDaniel came from
the Niners. Shanahan may do a lot of motion, but
he's really like his dad. He's all about physical run games.
Mcveigh's a culture guy. Shanahan's a culture guy. Rabel's a
culture guy. Dan Campbell's a culture guy. The Harbawser culture guys.
(26:37):
Pete Carroll's got more of a culture guy. Is that
I look at Miami and Mike McDaniel and it's like
he took the Niners. He went to Miami with a
similar quarterback, a smaller guy, not a huge arm, moves
a little accurate. But I don't think he's built a culture.
I think it's all sizzle and no steak and Miami.
To me this year, when I hear about coaches in
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the hot seat, I'm like, I look at Miami and
all I hear the media love Mike McDaniel, but there's
no there there, And I think we're moving into a
time in the NFL culture beyond.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Just schematics matters and.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
That Mike McDaniel may be clever, but the physical culture
and component of that Niners offense, he didn't bring it
to Miami and I don't buy them, and I think
they probably finished fourth and two years ago they were
the talk of the league.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Where are you on Miami.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
McDaniel the motion to the sizzle because it's not working
and it's going backwards.
Speaker 9 (27:41):
Are you saying fourth in the AFC East? Is that
what you're saying?
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Yes, Wow, that's that's bold.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
I'd put him third. Listen, culture matters one hundred percent.
I think it matters more than next as and o's
most of the time, especially in football, especially when you're
in a city like Miami with all the distractions that
are down there, not in Green Bay, Wisconsin or something
like that. So the distractions are real. That's a real thing.
I kind of believe in Mike McDaniel is I kind
of believe in him as a coach. I even believe
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that he can be the right culture guy. But no,
it's it's Listen, they're swimming upstream just a little bit.
Even in their division, the Buffalo Bills, like everyone thinks that, hey,
that's going to be the winner in that division.
Speaker 9 (28:21):
The Patriots are vastly improved this year.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
They clearly have an identity. You know, you just look
at the teams last year that had double digit wins.
Speaker 9 (28:30):
The AFC is tough. Seven teams are going to get in.
Speaker 8 (28:32):
An explosive team like the Cincinnati Bengals didn't even make
the playoffs last year. The Steelers clearly got better. The
AFC West is talented. If you don't win in Miami,
a team with a great fan base that expects to
win and they've got fireworks.
Speaker 9 (28:47):
Yeah, people are going to be calling for your for
your job. That's going to be the nature of it.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
But the creativity and the identity of what they can
be offensively, it clearly is is there. Like it's the
potential is there. It's an interesting thing that you bring up.
I don't know that I would say fourth at the
end of the day. I feel like he was hired
though to get to back on track.
Speaker 9 (29:13):
He did a pretty darn good job of that.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
I think they just need to take a next step,
and sometimes it's just tough late in the year. Those
warm weather teams, they don't perform at the end of
the year the way that they did at the beginning
of the year because they got to go on the
road and play somewhere like Buffalo or New England.
Speaker 9 (29:30):
That'll be the test for them this year.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Matt Hasselbeck, it is a Monday. He's at an undisclosed,
very nice location, which I'll be close to in a
couple of days.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
It is great scene.
Speaker 9 (29:41):
My man, it's Nan Tuckett. Just say it now.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
I just outed you on your vacation, all right, Matt Hasselbeck,
who's been a joint since he came to the show.
I appreciate it. No, I was thinking about this j
Maac is that sometimes like the media, and we know this.
The media likes the media. And Mike mcdai was seen
as sort of you know, he's a small guy physically,
but he's smart. He was kind of funny at the podium.
(30:06):
The NFL is a sport of big men. Big men.
They were big in high school, they're big in college.
They're big physical men and they respond to other big men.
And if you look at what's happening in the NFL. McVeigh,
you say, well, mcveigh's not big. McVeigh is an athlete,
he's culture, he's smart, he owns a room.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
I mean not debatable.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Like there's an argument that McVeigh is probably the best
guy at the podium in the league. And I think, Miami,
it's squirrely, it's fun, it's smart.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
I am three years into this Mike McDaniel thing.
Speaker 6 (30:41):
What are they I'd think it's less about him because
he's smart, articulate, really cuts through to the players. You
see behind the scenes. It's less about how the team
is built. And honestly, I don't think they've done a
good job. I'm sure you saw Tyreek Hill just chimed
in on the trade with the Will Smith meme from
Fresh Prince a beat like it's over.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
There's nobody here.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
Tyreek Hill has been chirping about getting me, getting him
out of there for like two years, dealing with Jalen Ramsey.
To me, this Dolphins move, they're rearranging the deck chairs
on the Titanic.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
They're going down.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
Everybody knows it, and they're just trying some last ditch
effort here. It's not gonna matter, But it's not on
McDaniel though, well.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
It ultimately has to be on the coach. You can
blame anybody in New England. Bela chick got fired at
the end. You're paying the coach fifteen million. It's on
the coach. You can't blame the GM because you're not winning.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Geunemployed for what like a week? No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I don't believe Mike McDaniel gets a second nod. What
don't I don't, I don't. It's got a Pro Bowl quarterback.
They've gone backwards for three years.
Speaker 9 (31:42):
And why when I hike Bowl quarterbacks out their.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Garbage, that's on McDaniel.
Speaker 9 (31:47):
That's it was quarterback for getting hurt.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
All the time. Okay, on the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
My point being, you tell me the market that's going
to buy a coach is that in his first job,
Remember Miami won I think it was nineteen games the
two years before he got there. They won twenty with
him in the first two years, one more, spending big
time money and getting stars, and then went backwards last year.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
Okay, I would definitely disagree. I think McDaid he has
a mark almost instantly for another head coach based on what.
He's an offensive mastermind. It's not his fault. The defense
got stop and nosebleed and the offensive lines of train wreck.
The GM in the front office in Miami has been
the downfall McDaniel.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Again, I would not blame him, Colin.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I think he's excellent.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
I mean, at some point in this league, the best
coaches keep winning. Andy Reid wins regardless of quarterback. Even
in Philly he was getting ANFC championships.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
He had Donovan McNabb.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Come on, who's a not a top fifty quarterback ever,
not even close?
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Not so.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
I mean that's not disputable.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
But Donnie Donald McNabb was a good quarterback. They had
a great defense in Philly. Yeah, reads a good coach.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Come on, No, you're not listening. I'm not denying he is.
You're saying McDaniels is. I'm saying, where's the proof. Where's
the proof?
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Well, they've got into the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Has any team been humiliated more by Buffalo in the
league than Miami? They get humiliated by them. They can't
compete in their own division with the best, forget the
rest of the AFC. I mean again, I go back
to what's the market for you? Tell me I'm an owner. Hey,
we've got a job opening. Let's hire a guy that young.
(33:32):
His first job he failed at in a market that
free agents love to play, no state tax awqua water.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
So who's the equivalent of the NFC? Would you say
it's the floor? Because he's not some big imposing figure.
He got delt Aaron Rodgers won a lot. Now Rodgers
is gone, and what are we seeing from the floor?
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Playoffs? The Dolphins got to.
Speaker 9 (33:52):
The playoffs.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Under green Bay has no owner. Free agents won't play there.
The division is there are no bad teams in that division.
Speaker 9 (34:04):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
And and by the way, you're dealing with a quarterback
Jordan Love who is not who sat for three years.
We still don't know how good he is. Toua was
a first round pick who's already made a Pro Bowl.
I mean, I'm not a huge to a fan, but
he's made Pro Bowls. He his comp was Drew Brees,
who was Jordan Love's comp? Who would you rather have
(34:26):
Jordan Love or to a well, I'd rather have Jordan
Love because he's bigger with a better arm. Today I
would three years ago, I wouldn't. When McDaniel took the job,
I would have rather had two of than Jordan Love.
Now going into this year, I would take Jordan Love.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Okay, so Zach Taylor or Mike McDaniel, Who would you
rather have his head coach?
Speaker 4 (34:47):
I wouldn't hire either.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I mean if I was an owner and there was
an opening and they were on the market, those would
not be choices.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
So now Brian Dabele probably would be my choice over McDaniel.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
But yes, what has Brian dabel done as a head coach?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Got Daniel Jones to the playoffs and won a playoff game.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Mine, he got to the.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
Playoffs, they just said what they didn't want a playoff game?
And now Davie's backsliding badly.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
But you're telling me he's got a market. My take is.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
What top tier team is like, not even average team.
Well what listen, the Dolphins weren't good before him, they're
getting worse now.
Speaker 9 (35:23):
How's they said?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Jonathan Gannet I would argue this in area. But people
may criticize Brian Flores. Brian floor is a better head coach.
He didn't get along with Tua. Brian Flores took the
Dolphins over.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
In eight weeks. Eight weeks. We're going into year four
with McDaniel.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
In eight weeks the Dolphins were an elite defense and
had elite special teams. In eight weeks eight, we're on
year four for McDaniel. Nobody's got the Dolphins being elite.
This year you got culture problems Tyreek Hilling, Jalen Ramsey.
Neither one either wants to play there, one's gone. One
could be on McDaniel though.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
So by the way, they went nine to eight plays
eleven and six playoffs lost to the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
No harm in that.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
And in their first year they had Skyler what's his
face at quarterback as tour was hurt, and then last
year eight and nine. So in three years he's twenty
eight and twenty three with two playoff trips.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
I mean, are you zero and two? Lafleur's got three playoffs?
Where's one for you?
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Are you ready?
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Dan Campbell or Mike McDaniel. Dan Campbell, he can build
a culture. Their culture is one of the best in
the NFL. Dan Campbell in the Lions culture. Whether you
like Dan or not, and I was not a huge
fan initially, their culture is out of this world. The
the Lion's culture is we said there's three years ago
(36:43):
nobody in the league plays harder than Detroit. They've had
major personnel issues on the defensive side when Hutchinson got hurt.
They have no defense their culture. I mean, think about this.
Matt Lafleur won two games last year with Malik Willis
at quarterback, who who Tennessee drafted. An hour later said yeah,
that's not gonna work. I mean it was like a
(37:05):
second round pick. They were like, yeah, I think you
got to forget what round he was drafted in. But
they literally bailed on him before he was like halfway
through his contract. Lafleur won two games with him. That
was And if I recall he got Malik Willis, he
wasn't even on the roster like a month earlier. Yes,
a third round picky. He wasn't on the like the
(37:26):
offseason roster. I think they brought him in due to
an injury and boom, they brought him in August twenty sixth.
Speaker 9 (37:33):
This is interesting.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
You win, though, and he wins two games in September.
Speaker 9 (37:38):
I did not know you were this anti Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
I'm not anti. It's the numbers zero and two in
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I mean, when he walked to the playoffs that Josh Allen.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
In Buffalo and Patrick Mahomes and KC. Where's the Hartt?
That the backup quarterback?
Speaker 4 (37:54):
What are we doing?
Speaker 6 (37:56):
The Jets would take him in a heartbeat, a heartbeat
so they can have an offense.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
They've been an offense in a decade. Collin the Juts
just hired another coach. They have to wait a while.
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
It is a Monday, lots going on. We are live.
It is the Herd. Wherever you may be and however
you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of
your day. Jamac I was thinking about this this morning
when a story broke, is that, you know, all of
us have budgets. Most of us have budgets, not everybody,
(00:51):
but you can kind of tell what people spend their
money on by the time they're fifty or sixty based
on the kind of financial situation they're in. You know,
tell my kids all the time, Dad doesn't have a
problem with you spending money, spend on the right stuff,
spending on smart stuff. And there's an NFL team that
has driven me crazy for about five years, the Pittsburgh
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Steelers and breaking news this morning.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
J mac.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
They did it again this morning.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
So the Steelers can't stop spending money on defense. So
this morning, what do you know, bounce around the league guy,
Jalen Ramsey twenty six and a half million dollars. The
Steelers went and got him. Now, they did move off
of Minka Fitzpatrick. But Minca is low maintenance, seven million
(01:40):
dollars a year, cheaper a leader in the room, not
a bounce around the league guy. So the Steelers can't
help themselves. Now they're spending seven and a half million
dollars more than they were yesterday in the secondary. And
for the record, Pittsburgh has led the NFL in defensive
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spending three years in a row. This will guarantee it's four.
The New York Giants and the Steelers spend all their
money on defense. You know who spends it on offense?
The Rams and the Eagles have the two cheapest defenses today,
and the Chiefs spend the most money in the league
on offense. Chiefs, Steelers, Rams. What do they have in common? Momentum?
(02:23):
Winning perpetually interesting. In the NFL, everybody's got a budget,
it's called the cap. Where do you spend their money?
I've told my kids, my entire life. The two ease
education and experiences. That's where I'm going to spend my
money on great memorable things when dad has gone, great
(02:44):
memories and to educate.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
All Right, if you're.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Spending on cars a third, if you're spending it on clothes,
I'm going to be able to tell over time you
didn't spend it wisely. Stop spending money on defense. I thought, oh,
they're moving off Mika Fitzpatrick, who didn't have a great year.
I mean he was like fifty second ranked safety. A
good player, but a team leader. And by the way,
they're number one in defensive spending and they don't have
(03:11):
the TJ. Watt contract finalized. That's going to be forty
five million annually, So you have that TJ. Watt issue
to deal with. And he's your best defensive player and
Jalen Ramsey two things. He's a very very loose player.
That's why the Rams moved off him. They wouldn't bad
mouth him publicly. But he's kind of an independent guy
doing his own thing. He's an independent contractor. He's going
(03:32):
to do what he wants on his terms. And the
Rams after he got burned two or three times in
that playoff Super Bowl run. You know they got tired
of it. So he's also a player. He's very dependent
on his environment, and so when he was with the
loose Dolphins and the loose Jacksonville Jaguar organizations, he wasn't
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as good.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
He was loose, he made mistakes.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
When the Rams got him, I thought at his he
was probably the best Jayalen Ramsey, I've said this for
about Randy Moss. When Randy had the Patriots, he broke
NFL records. When he was with the stable Vikings, Randy
Moss was great putting.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
On the Raiders. Uh oh.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So there's just a lot of people in life, and
a lot of professional athletes in life. They're very much
a reflection of the environment they're in. And so Minka Fitzpatrick,
he's going to be good anywhere. It didn't matter if
the Steelers are loose. Minka Fitzpatrick is a pro, a leader, dependable.
Jalen Ramsey much more reflection of the environment. So he
goes to an organization that remember last week, Remember James
(04:32):
Harrison last week saying the best part about Mike Tomlin
he's a players coach.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
The worst part about Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
He's really a player's coach, and some players are not
great with players coaches. Now, James Harrison was undrafted, totally driven,
a complete grinder, absolutely laser focused. But not every Steeler,
as we've found out, is James Harrison. So this is
a great example of how do you spend your money?
(04:58):
Chiefs Rams Eagle, they spend it on offense. They win
every year. The Steelers and the Giants keep doubling down
on defense. It's weird. It's almost as if the Steelers,
trying to solve their offensive issues, looked at last year's
Jets and said, let's do what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Remember what the Jets did.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
They added Hassan Reddick, didn't really need him, and then
signed Aaron Rodgers. The Steelers, wait, give us some of that.
Let's sign a guy that really isn't as productive as
he used to be on defense and is not an
expensive and a forty year old quarterback. I'm just going
to say this probably don't want to watch the New
(05:41):
York Jets ever and say I'll take two heaping tablespoons
of what the New York Jets are doing, and that
looks That's what the Steelers did this morning. I could
have been okay getting and moving off Mika Fitzpatrick though
I liked him, But then adding a guy that's looser
as a bounce around the league guy. Now and this
seven and a half million dollars more you're guaranteed to
(06:02):
pay pre TJ Watt contract not good. Let's talk about
something that is good. So we are one year away,
I think it's eleven months. One year away from the
World Cup on US soil. And it's a biggie because
this is the best group of talent we've ever had
in terms of attacking and scoring. Now many of them
(06:23):
are not playing. This is sort of our B team.
But we were on a four game skid before the
Gold Cup. But our biggest issue before the Gold Cup
is we don't have a goalie. Before yesterday we didn't
have a goalie, and last night we finally found one.
Matt Freeze, who may have struggled for a moment against Haiti,
(06:44):
but against Costa Rica in the shootout, he was absolutely brilliant.
First of all, Matt Freeze in the shootout three different
times made us save that is remarkable. Another two times
he got his hand on it. So say what you
want about shootouts. I hear people they're not real soccer.
Yes they are, Yes they are. They're better than our
(07:06):
overtimes in college and pro football and their tension filled
and they're all about execution. And that's the one thing
we were worried about with Team USA without Christian Polisic.
Can we execute when we get penalty kicks, when we
get corner kicks, when we have set pieces? Can we execute?
Because when you have Polisic, it always seems to work.
(07:27):
So tip of the cap to Tyler Adams and Malik
Tillman and Alex Freeman and Damian Downs.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
But we did not have a goalie.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
In fact, on the pregame show, our guys were saying
on Fox, is Matt Turner going to start? Matt Freeze
had And We've had incredible goalies in my lifetime. We're
a hands country. We're good when you need to use hands,
not always great with Jeff's feet. But Matt Freeze, after
that Haiti moment where he froze, you're thinking we're not
(08:00):
good enough to be bad in the nets. We're just
not good enough. Matt Freeze yesterday the greatest moment in
the entire Gold Cup, not just for us. It was
tension filled and by the way, wasn't the world last
World Cup decided.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
By p case.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yes, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna spend some time
debating whether or not shootouts matter. They're all about execution
and that's what wins in the World Cup. Details goaltending
and execution. And also on Mauricio Pochettino, it should be
noted made three changes to the lineup and two of
(08:39):
the guys that were inserted in scored, so that momentum
as we're onto the semis, regardless of what happens next,
you have a sense of execution. We found our goalie,
which is absolutely essential in the World Cup. And we
always talk about offensive lines in the NFL. You're just
(08:59):
not going to a Super Bowl with a bad old line.
Patrick Mahomes has been blown out twice in his career,
like humiliated twice in Super Bowls when the old line
was a mess. You can't win a Super Bowl with
a bad old line. And you're not winning a World
Cup or or you're gonna struggle to get out of
a group stage, and maybe maybe unless you're like a
Brazil or Argentina, you're gonna struggle to get out of
(09:21):
the group stage unless you're really good in goal at
Matt Freeze yesterday talked about his remarkable performance.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Penalties are my thing.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
You know, I've been the plane ride over here to
UH to Minnesota, I was studying the penalties and so
you know, I've been stunning them all week and I
was ready for it if you needed it. And the
one that I didn't didn't move on suggestion from my
goalkeeper coach Tony Jimenez, and uh, you know, he was
the here's the reason I saved his made.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
So I gotta tell you, j Mac, there's very few
things in sports in America globally that are more riveting
than when you go to PKS. I'm sitting there for
ten minutes and I'm in the world stops and it
was like a real moment, and all of a sudden,
(10:12):
when Burholter's son misses, I'm like, oh, no, this is
gonna go sideways.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
No, this can't happen.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
But our guys delivered and it was about as good
as ten to twelve minutes of live sports can be.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
So tip of the cap to our guys.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Yeah, and let's be real, they are heavy favorites in
the semifinals against Guatemala.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yes, and we're looking at.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
A USA Mexico final, which would be incredible obviously for
the country.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
For soccer fans.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
I will say soccer purists, Colin, they hate pks as
an ending. Yeah, they're like all this running around for
two you know, two hours and we end up penalty kicks.
So silly, But you're right, thrilling television, just gripping.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Well, remember, if you run around for two hours, the
last thing that's going to decide it is running around
for another fifteen minutes. This is soccer, perhaps not at
its purest form, but at its most crucial form of execution.
I mean when you watch the great teams that win
the World Cup, goal scores and goalkeeping decide World Cups.
(11:13):
That's what decides it. The great attacker, the great score,
and somebody makes a great save and you put them
up front, up close and personal. This is what's going
to decide this match. And again, if you go ninety
minutes and you're tied, often in the blazing sun, I
don't need you to play longer. I want execution and
their team USA deliberate it.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
Let me quickly add you know we talked about like, Hey,
this is the B team with some C guys. They're
not going to be in the World Cup. Freeze just
made a case to Potchat. Hey, man, I know Matt
Turner's a guy I won in. I want a legitimate shot. Yeah,
and Diego Luna has been playing incredible, incredible, certified a
spot for himself.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Tyler Sears team, Tyler Adams, I should make the team
as well.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
So I did.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Thinkino came out and I'm gonna make some lineup changes
and they all worked.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
And he's always.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Been a fan of change and youth and development, so
that's why they brought him in and moved off Greg Berhalzer.
Pcino's strength is I'm gonna use young guys, I'm gonna
develop them, I'm gonna give them opportunities, and they delivered.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
We're gonna beat Guatemala, that's for sure. Lock that up,
and then we're in the finals and then it's hey,
we play Mexico, hopefully in what should be another classic
game between the two countries.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Yep, I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
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Speaker 4 (12:43):
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Speaker 1 (13:06):
Where Colin was right, Where Colin was wrong, Where Colin
was right, Lebron opted in. I had said this was
it two three months ago. When Lebron hinted it retirement.
I said, oh my god, are we going to do
this again. It's four years in a row. It's like
the Brett Farb Tour. Lebron's not retiring. He's too good.
He plays joyfully. Los Angeles is good for him. He's
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got Luka Dantag. Yes he'll opt in, Yes he's gonna play.
It's nonsense, and.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
We were right.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Well.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
A week ago, goalie Matt Freeze, I said, look too
anxious over his head, nervous, probably not our answer for
the United States men's national team in goal. And then
yesterday during PK's three saves, got his hand on two others.
He rose to the moment. In my opinion, I mean
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he's secured the goalie job for Team USA. Where Colin
was right. Kaylin Clark isn't just the best young player
in the WNBA.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
She's Tiger Woods.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yesterday sold out her shoe in ten minutes, according to reports,
ten minutes.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
She's getting the.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Most votes in the All Star Game. She's driving half
of the league's television ratings. I said a year ago,
she is Taylor Swift with a jumper. She is not
just helping the league. She literally got a teammate's jersey
sold out in fifteen minutes. Sophia Cunningham just by proxy,
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a player that had been in the league seven years,
just a teammate. She's getting stuff sold out. She is
bigger than either even the WNBA, which has finally come
around acknowledges where Colin was right. Former Pittsburgh's Steeler James
Harrison last week admitted what we've been on for years.
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Mike Tomlin's strength, he's a players coach. Mike Tomlin's weakness,
he's a players coach. Yes, many players can handle that,
but increasingly guys like Jalen Ramsey, who's only but as
good as the structure. He's been supported by the Rams.
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It doesn't work. So this is what I've said about
the Steelers for years. I'm not saying Mike Tomlin can't coach,
but he's loose and details win in December, January and
February and James Harrison admitting the organization is to player friendly.
Where Colin was wrong, James Harden signed another deal two years,
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forty plus million a year. Listen, I last year he
shot forty one percent from the field. He doesn't defend,
he never shows up in the playoffs. I am not
denying his greatness. I am not denying his Hall of
Fame stature. I'm not denying offensive leads one of the
great guards of all time. But if Steve Balmer cares
about winning and culture and how do you win in
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the playoffs, who is the best defensive team in the league?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Ok? See who won? OKC. That's not the way to
do it.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Where Colin was right, Sean Payton ranked number two coaching
in the NFL by PFF. Andy Reid number one. I
just saw this weekend. He took a bad offensive line.
The old line is now ranked number two. He took
over a shaky defense. They led the NFL in sacks.
They upgraded a safety and linebacker on players that were
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just niners a year ago. He inherited a horrible culture,
a mess at quarterback, moved off Russell Wilson, dead cap money,
and in a division with Andy Reid and Jim Harbaugh,
took a rookie quarterback to the playoffs. This is what
I've been saying about Sean Payton. He is direct, he
is kurt. He can turn people off. He is brilliant.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I said last week there's seven athletes in America that
are untradeable. Aaron Judge is absolutely won yesterday to homers
four RBIs leads baseball at three fifty six, second in
home runs. He's not just a great Yankee. He went
on a brief hitting slump the Yankees got shut out.
He is literally the centerpiece as good as Otawny is.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
If he takes a day off.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I got Mokie Betts, I got Maximunse, I got Freddie Freeman.
He is the centerpiece of East Coast baseball.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Where Colin was robbed.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Austin Reeves declined ninety million from the Lakers. Why his
representation believes open market or the Lakers. In a year,
he's gonna get closer to one hundred and fifty million.
I'd trade him tomorrow for Derek White. I think he's
a really good B player. They're nights. He has an
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a offensive night, but he's not dynamic vertically.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
He's a good shooter, not elite. But I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Because apparently often in his reps CNA player where Colin
was right, What do you know? The Tampa Bay Buccaneers
extended Jason Light the GM. Do you realize the team
with the longest active playoffs streak in the NFC is
the Box, not the Eagles or the Ravens or the Rams.
Excuse me, Ravens refc Jason Light one of the best
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scouts ever been on this for years. Tampa Bay for
years had excellent rosters. They couldn't get the quarterback right.
Jason got Baker when a lot of people were doubting him.
He was one of only two gms that aggressively pursued
Tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Tampa will remain talent.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Rich as long as Jason Light is the GM one
more heard.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
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Speaker 1 (19:07):
And with that, Matt Hasselbeck is joining us, and he's
joining us live. Okay, So I want to get into
the Caleb Williams thing before I get into the Jayalen
Ramsey thing. Is that I've always felt this, even with
my kids, when I had six different kids. If they
were struggling, little unstable stuffs in their head, number one
rule was just stabilize them. I'm not worried about growth.
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I'm just let's stabilize. And I tend to believe that
with quarterbacks, with a young quarterback, I'm not looking for growth.
With Caleb Williams, it was such a mess last year.
Just cut the sacks in half. I don't care about
anything else. So I maybe I'm being a little over
the top. But when people suggest they want him to
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go to thirty touchdowns and four thousand yards, I'm like,
I don't care. The sacks are everything to me. How
does that land for you?
Speaker 8 (19:57):
Well, it's certainly number one. You got to walk before
you can run, is how I would say it. But
I like to give quarterbacks usually two or three things
to really focus in on and improve on from one
year to the next. I think that's what helped me
the most. Sacks would definitely be at the top of
the list. Sacks hurt your team, They hurt your offensive line,
they hurt morale, they hurt your own personal like your
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physic out of your body.
Speaker 9 (20:21):
But it's also very bad.
Speaker 8 (20:22):
On the defense, that field position game. So it's a
you know, this idea of protect the team. Sacks are
an absolute killer. I thought, if you know, if we
were assigning blame to why so many sacks last year
in Chicago, the majority of the sacks were not the
fault of the offensive line. They were the fault of
the young quarterback. It's very common. It's not special to Caleb.
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We've all lived it, and that's an area that he
needs to improve on, and I think he probably will,
but it needs to be pretty significant.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
You know, when you say he's got to get better,
is that is that pre snap.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Is that holding the ballt some guy.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
There's people open, they just don't they want to they're
seeking a bigger play. When you watched him, what did
you see? Why was he inducing sacks?
Speaker 8 (21:11):
Well, I think early on, you know, early on, his
eyes were in the wrong place. It didn't look like
it didn't look like he had a clear grasp of
the protection schemes.
Speaker 9 (21:20):
I think that was a big part of it.
Speaker 8 (21:22):
Now, they made the head coaching change, and they made
the offensive coordinator change. His position coach, you know, was
in the room with him calling plays. The offensive coordinator knew,
and I think they simplified it and they brought it down.
But I think what got him into trouble in the
second part of the year was he trusted his in
his athleticism so much like you saw these things where
he got away with it at USC, You're not going
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to get away with it in the NFL. And I
think that's one of the hard things for quarterbacks who
have great mobility.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
Uh, it's it's it's I would.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
Say it's great mobility in college and it's just kind
of like good mobility in the NFL.
Speaker 9 (21:55):
And there's a fine line there.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
But I think he needs to play on time more
than he did, and uh, maybe a little bit less
of the playground stuff save that for when you absolutely
need it.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, you know, it reminds me of a mat a
little of golf, where everybody wants to buy a new driver,
and it's like, if you're putting improves, your score improves.
The driver is not going to win your strokes. It's
all around the greens, right, So I think, Yeah, with Caleb,
I don't worry about his driving. You got to make
the pots in the red zone.
Speaker 9 (22:24):
Well, it's putt, it's what is it putt for dough?
Drive for show?
Speaker 8 (22:28):
You know, I would say, I would say in a
similar way somewhere on that list. I think number two
for me would just probably be overall leadership, like we're
looking at you. I mentioned body language like that bothers me.
That really bothered me how he handled that last year.
But then also like you know, you can't miss the layups,
you can't miss the free throws. He is, he's gonna
have splash plays, but he's also going to miss some
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wide open guys, or he did last year. And I
think that's another area, probably that third area that I
think he needs to improve on.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
All right, So been on this for a while. The
Eagles and the Chiefs spend all their money on offense.
The league ten years ago, after that CTE check they
wrote moved to benefiting the offense. So there's limitations even
a great defense. Couple of years ago the Niners had
a great defense. They faced Mahomes he ate them alive.
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There's just limitations on what a great defense can do
because of rule changes. So the Steelers this morning said
we're gonna spend even more money on defense. We'll move
off MinC and get Ramseys. Like, guys, how about just
move off MinC go get more offense.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
So what do you make of the Jalen Ramsey move
to the Steelers?
Speaker 8 (23:36):
Now, Listen, the Steelers are just gonna do what the
Steelers do. They do not care about the rest of
the league. They don't care about what anybody else does.
They say, Hey, we're the Steelers, this is how we operate.
So I don't think that's going to change. But I
do think this it looks like they're building a team
to stop the Cincinnati Bengals. Like when I look at them,
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I really feel like they're coming up with, like what
is our identity going to be. It's almost like they
have confidence in what they have, like what we have
can take care of the Baltimore Ravens, like.
Speaker 9 (24:06):
We're good, But like, man, I don't know how we're
going to stop the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
Like I do believe that there's a fear there of
like personnel wise, we don't match up well with them,
and the Steelers and some other teams that have always
been like thirty four defenses, three down linemen, four linebackers,
they're playing more of this four two five four down linemen,
two inside or four rushers, two inside backers, and five dbs.
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And I think what kind of dbs is where they've
you know.
Speaker 9 (24:35):
They now have some flexibility.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
They basically have three corners to go to go up
and fight, kind of like that Joe Burrow three wide
receiver set.
Speaker 9 (24:43):
So I think that's a trend league wide.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
Certainly the Steelers look like they feel pretty good about
that trend as well. Yeah, okay, well listen, if I'm
going to give you some confidence about it, I do
think that there's a play here for the offense. You know,
like Arthur Smith ident last year you saw he went
with a lot of twelve personnel. Thirteen personnel meaning two
tight ends in the game or three tight ends in
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the game. I think they just want to get a
little more talented.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
At that spot. Three different guys.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
They've got Friar Move, They've got Darnell Washington, who's a
joy to watch in the running game.
Speaker 9 (25:17):
I mean, he's a monster.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
And then they go get John new Smith, a player
that I think is more wide receiver than his tight end.
Speaker 9 (25:24):
Arthur Smith's been with him a few times, loves him.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
I know that as this as the league goes to
kind of what I was talking about, five dbs on
the field more, the Steelers and Arthur Smith look like
they're saying, Okay, you want to get cute with five vb's,
We're going to smash it down your throat.
Speaker 9 (25:39):
We're going to have a bruising, bruising running game.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
And we can still throw it with these guys, shifts, motions,
all that kind of stuff. It's identity for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Again,
we don't care what the rest of the league is doing.
We're doing what we're doing, and I think having a
clear identity is very.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Helpful, you know, I think over I obviously people have
been hiring offensive coaches more than defensive coaches. Whenever there's
a big opening, you olways see four offensive guys for
a defensive guy. And that's not to say guys like
Demko Ryans can't work on the other side. But I
was also thinking about something the other day, is that
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I there's a lot of people. Mike McDaniel came from
the Niners. Shanahan may do a lot of motion, but
he's really like his dad. He's all about physical run games.
Mcveigh's a culture guy. Shanahan's a culture guy. Rabel's a
culture guy. Dan Campbell's a culture guy. The Harbawser culture guys.
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Pete Carroll's got more of a culture guy. Is that
I look at Miami and Mike McDaniel and it's like
he took the Niners. He went to Miami with a
similar quarterback, a smaller guy, not a huge arm, moves
a little accurate. But I don't think he's built a culture.
I think it's all sizzle and no steak and Miami.
To me this year, when I hear about coaches in
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the hot seat, I'm like, I look at Miami and
all I hear the media love Mike McDaniel, but there's
no there there, And I think we're moving into a
time in the NFL culture beyond.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Just schematics matters and.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
That Mike McDaniel may be clever, but the physical culture
and component of that Niners offense, he didn't bring it
to Miami and I don't buy them, and I think
they probably finished fourth and two years ago they were
the talk of the league.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Where are you on Miami.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
McDaniel the motion to the sizzle because it's not working
and it's going backwards.
Speaker 9 (27:41):
Are you saying fourth in the AFC East? Is that
what you're saying?
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Yes, Wow, that's that's bold.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
I'd put him third. Listen, culture matters one hundred percent.
I think it matters more than next as and o's
most of the time, especially in football, especially when you're
in a city like Miami with all the distractions that
are down there, not in Green Bay, Wisconsin or something
like that. So the distractions are real. That's a real thing.
I kind of believe in Mike McDaniel is I kind
of believe in him as a coach. I even believe
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that he can be the right culture guy. But no,
it's it's Listen, they're swimming upstream just a little bit.
Even in their division, the Buffalo Bills, like everyone thinks that, hey,
that's going to be the winner in that division.
Speaker 9 (28:21):
The Patriots are vastly improved this year.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
They clearly have an identity. You know, you just look
at the teams last year that had double digit wins.
Speaker 9 (28:30):
The AFC is tough. Seven teams are going to get in.
Speaker 8 (28:32):
An explosive team like the Cincinnati Bengals didn't even make
the playoffs last year. The Steelers clearly got better. The
AFC West is talented. If you don't win in Miami,
a team with a great fan base that expects to
win and they've got fireworks.
Speaker 9 (28:47):
Yeah, people are going to be calling for your for
your job. That's going to be the nature of it.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
But the creativity and the identity of what they can
be offensively, it clearly is is there. Like it's the
potential is there. It's an interesting thing that you bring up.
I don't know that I would say fourth at the
end of the day. I feel like he was hired
though to get to back on track.
Speaker 9 (29:13):
He did a pretty darn good job of that.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
I think they just need to take a next step,
and sometimes it's just tough late in the year. Those
warm weather teams, they don't perform at the end of
the year the way that they did at the beginning
of the year because they got to go on the
road and play somewhere like Buffalo or New England.
Speaker 9 (29:30):
That'll be the test for them this year.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Matt Hasselbeck, it is a Monday. He's at an undisclosed,
very nice location, which I'll be close to in a
couple of days.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
It is great scene.
Speaker 9 (29:41):
My man, it's Nan Tuckett. Just say it now.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
I just outed you on your vacation, all right, Matt Hasselbeck,
who's been a joint since he came to the show.
I appreciate it. No, I was thinking about this j
Maac is that sometimes like the media, and we know this.
The media likes the media. And Mike mcdai was seen
as sort of you know, he's a small guy physically,
but he's smart. He was kind of funny at the podium.
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The NFL is a sport of big men. Big men.
They were big in high school, they're big in college.
They're big physical men and they respond to other big men.
And if you look at what's happening in the NFL. McVeigh,
you say, well, mcveigh's not big. McVeigh is an athlete,
he's culture, he's smart, he owns a room.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
I mean not debatable.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Like there's an argument that McVeigh is probably the best
guy at the podium in the league. And I think, Miami,
it's squirrely, it's fun, it's smart.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
I am three years into this Mike McDaniel thing.
Speaker 6 (30:41):
What are they I'd think it's less about him because
he's smart, articulate, really cuts through to the players. You
see behind the scenes. It's less about how the team
is built. And honestly, I don't think they've done a
good job. I'm sure you saw Tyreek Hill just chimed
in on the trade with the Will Smith meme from
Fresh Prince a beat like it's over.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
There's nobody here.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
Tyreek Hill has been chirping about getting me, getting him
out of there for like two years, dealing with Jalen Ramsey.
To me, this Dolphins move, they're rearranging the deck chairs
on the Titanic.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
They're going down.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
Everybody knows it, and they're just trying some last ditch
effort here. It's not gonna matter, But it's not on
McDaniel though, well.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
It ultimately has to be on the coach. You can
blame anybody in New England. Bela chick got fired at
the end. You're paying the coach fifteen million. It's on
the coach. You can't blame the GM because you're not winning.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Geunemployed for what like a week? No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I don't believe Mike McDaniel gets a second nod. What
don't I don't, I don't. It's got a Pro Bowl quarterback.
They've gone backwards for three years.
Speaker 9 (31:42):
And why when I hike Bowl quarterbacks out their.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Garbage, that's on McDaniel.
Speaker 9 (31:47):
That's it was quarterback for getting hurt.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
All the time. Okay, on the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
My point being, you tell me the market that's going
to buy a coach is that in his first job,
Remember Miami won I think it was nineteen games the
two years before he got there. They won twenty with
him in the first two years, one more, spending big
time money and getting stars, and then went backwards last year.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
Okay, I would definitely disagree. I think McDaid he has
a mark almost instantly for another head coach based on what.
He's an offensive mastermind. It's not his fault. The defense
got stop and nosebleed and the offensive lines of train wreck.
The GM in the front office in Miami has been
the downfall McDaniel.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Again, I would not blame him, Colin.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I think he's excellent.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
I mean, at some point in this league, the best
coaches keep winning. Andy Reid wins regardless of quarterback. Even
in Philly he was getting ANFC championships.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
He had Donovan McNabb.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Come on, who's a not a top fifty quarterback ever,
not even close?
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Not so.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
I mean that's not disputable.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
But Donnie Donald McNabb was a good quarterback. They had
a great defense in Philly. Yeah, reads a good coach.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Come on, No, you're not listening. I'm not denying he is.
You're saying McDaniels is. I'm saying, where's the proof. Where's
the proof?
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Well, they've got into the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Has any team been humiliated more by Buffalo in the
league than Miami? They get humiliated by them. They can't
compete in their own division with the best, forget the
rest of the AFC. I mean again, I go back
to what's the market for you? Tell me I'm an owner. Hey,
we've got a job opening. Let's hire a guy that young.
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His first job he failed at in a market that
free agents love to play, no state tax awqua water.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
So who's the equivalent of the NFC? Would you say
it's the floor? Because he's not some big imposing figure.
He got delt Aaron Rodgers won a lot. Now Rodgers
is gone, and what are we seeing from the floor?
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Playoffs? The Dolphins got to.
Speaker 9 (33:52):
The playoffs.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Under green Bay has no owner. Free agents won't play there.
The division is there are no bad teams in that division.
Speaker 9 (34:04):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
And and by the way, you're dealing with a quarterback
Jordan Love who is not who sat for three years.
We still don't know how good he is. Toua was
a first round pick who's already made a Pro Bowl.
I mean, I'm not a huge to a fan, but
he's made Pro Bowls. He his comp was Drew Brees,
who was Jordan Love's comp? Who would you rather have
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Jordan Love or to a well, I'd rather have Jordan
Love because he's bigger with a better arm. Today I
would three years ago, I wouldn't. When McDaniel took the job,
I would have rather had two of than Jordan Love.
Now going into this year, I would take Jordan Love.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Okay, so Zach Taylor or Mike McDaniel, Who would you
rather have his head coach?
Speaker 4 (34:47):
I wouldn't hire either.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I mean if I was an owner and there was
an opening and they were on the market, those would
not be choices.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
So now Brian Dabele probably would be my choice over McDaniel.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
But yes, what has Brian dabel done as a head coach?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Got Daniel Jones to the playoffs and won a playoff game.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Mine, he got to the.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
Playoffs, they just said what they didn't want a playoff game?
And now Davie's backsliding badly.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
But you're telling me he's got a market. My take is.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
What top tier team is like, not even average team.
Well what listen, the Dolphins weren't good before him, they're
getting worse now.
Speaker 9 (35:23):
How's they said?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Jonathan Gannet I would argue this in area. But people
may criticize Brian Flores. Brian floor is a better head coach.
He didn't get along with Tua. Brian Flores took the
Dolphins over.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
In eight weeks. Eight weeks. We're going into year four
with McDaniel.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
In eight weeks the Dolphins were an elite defense and
had elite special teams. In eight weeks eight, we're on
year four for McDaniel. Nobody's got the Dolphins being elite.
This year you got culture problems Tyreek Hilling, Jalen Ramsey.
Neither one either wants to play there, one's gone. One
could be on McDaniel though.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
So by the way, they went nine to eight plays
eleven and six playoffs lost to the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
No harm in that.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
And in their first year they had Skyler what's his
face at quarterback as tour was hurt, and then last
year eight and nine. So in three years he's twenty
eight and twenty three with two playoff trips.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
I mean, are you zero and two? Lafleur's got three playoffs?
Where's one for you?
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Are you ready?
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Dan Campbell or Mike McDaniel. Dan Campbell, he can build
a culture. Their culture is one of the best in
the NFL. Dan Campbell in the Lions culture. Whether you
like Dan or not, and I was not a huge
fan initially, their culture is out of this world. The
the Lion's culture is we said there's three years ago
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nobody in the league plays harder than Detroit. They've had
major personnel issues on the defensive side when Hutchinson got hurt.
They have no defense their culture. I mean, think about this.
Matt Lafleur won two games last year with Malik Willis
at quarterback, who who Tennessee drafted. An hour later said yeah,
that's not gonna work. I mean it was like a
(37:05):
second round pick. They were like, yeah, I think you
got to forget what round he was drafted in. But
they literally bailed on him before he was like halfway
through his contract. Lafleur won two games with him. That
was And if I recall he got Malik Willis, he
wasn't even on the roster like a month earlier. Yes,
a third round picky. He wasn't on the like the
(37:26):
offseason roster. I think they brought him in due to
an injury and boom, they brought him in August twenty sixth.
Speaker 9 (37:33):
This is interesting.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
You win, though, and he wins two games in September.
Speaker 9 (37:38):
I did not know you were this anti Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
I'm not anti. It's the numbers zero and two in
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I mean, when he walked to the playoffs that Josh Allen.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
In Buffalo and Patrick Mahomes and KC. Where's the Hartt?
That the backup quarterback?
Speaker 4 (37:54):
What are we doing?
Speaker 6 (37:56):
The Jets would take him in a heartbeat, a heartbeat
so they can have an offense.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
They've been an offense in a decade. Collin the Juts
just hired another coach. They have to wait a while.
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