July 11, 2025 • 37 mins
Jason McIntyre fills in for Colin to breakdown Cooper Flagg's summer league debut and why criticisms of his performance are overblown. He gives you his "JMac 6-Pack" of Super Bowl contenders with a shocking omission. Plus, 2x All Pro Marlon Humphrey joins the show to tell Jason why the Ravens losing in the playoffs is not all on Lamar Jackson
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Pack me Friday. Everybody, What is up? It's your boy Jason.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
MacIntyre in for Colin cowhert He is beca Monday. I
know you're excited, boy, a.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Lot of venom online yesterday for some of the takes.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
But hey, it's Friday. Take Happy Hour in full effect.
I'm joining on this beautiful Friday by Alex Curry. Alex,
I know you're excited for your big leaves that's coming up.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
Yeah, I'm excited. There's a lot, there's the unknown, you know,
But we Onnday time, so we're here today.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
We're gonna have a great last day.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
We are.
Speaker 6 (01:04):
I love that you were getting beat for your takes
yesterday because that means that they were polarizing, which is
what you want to do.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah, I want to be loved.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
I just want to be going to be loved in
this industry.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Although I'll say there was a story that dropped like
eight minutes before we walked on a set Ooh it
is spicy, and we'll get to that shortly. I don't
want to say Lebron versus Luca, but something's happening in
LA and it does not look good for the King.
Speaker 7 (01:29):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
We got a great show lined up, a lot of
exciting fun guests will do Summer League stuff, little NFL,
but we're gonna start with the big debut.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Last night, Cooper Flag, the eighteen.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Year old phenom from Duke, in his first NBA Summer
League game. Now, I know everybody wants to draw dramatic,
sweeping conclusions from a Summer League game in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I'm just gonna warn you don't do that.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Okay. The eighteen year old Cooper Flag had an uneven game.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Listen, this is what happens.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
What Remember Jebin Yama last year came out in his
first Summer League game and was kind of awful, and everybody, Oh, he's.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Not gonna He's gotta be fine.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
That was two years ago. But Cooper Flag last night
shoots five of twenty one ohover five on threes, and
all I hear is, well, I.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Don't know, his shot doesn't look good?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Jay, I didn't. Where is he elite? I'm like, guys,
we saw him for a full season of Duke. He's
elite everywhere. I mean, I just thought the overreaction to
Cooper Flagg shooting last night was goofy.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Let me tell you what he does well?
Speaker 5 (02:34):
The guy's a winning basketball player?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Should I mention?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
With seventy seconds left, he makes the game saving block
on a layup attempt by a Laker guard, just swats
it out of thin air and then gets what happens?
He comes down on the fast break and Cooper Flag
makes the game winning assist to a young Memard.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Boy did that kid look good?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
And the MAVs pull out the win over the Lakers,
And somewhere along the line in the NBA mostly we
got to this, Hey, hey, if you're a jack of
old trades but master of none, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
It's just what are you a leite at?
Speaker 7 (03:10):
Well?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Let me ask you, guys.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
When Nicola Jokicic came into the NBA at twenty, what
was he elite at?
Speaker 7 (03:16):
Anyone, anyone?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
What about Yannis?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
He gets to the league at nineteen, this spindly young
fellow from Greece.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
What does yannesty lead at Jay?
Speaker 7 (03:26):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Sorry, length, Okay, that's not an elite trade. That's not
a skill that carries over. Like Yannis came into the league,
he wasn't a leite at anything. Cooper Flag comes in
more advanced than those guys as an eighteen year old.
Remember a month ago he should have graduated in high school.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
That's when you usually graduate high school.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Right, eighteen and a half, eighteen ish.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
He had completed a season at Duke, was utterly dominant,
and now is in the NBA Summer League at eighteen
and a half.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Doesn't turn nineteen until later this year.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
And all these people who are like Jason he shopped
five of twenty one. Look at the form on his shot. Guys,
take a time out, take a deep breath. He played
thirty two minutes last night. Okay, this guy's been working
for the last decade to get to this moment.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
As a young guy.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Of course, he had butterflies.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I will point out he shot eighty four percent from
the line at Duke last season.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Okay, three point shooting.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
You know how you shoot free throws as a better
descriptor of how your three point shooting could go. Cooper's
gonna be fine from three shot thirty eight percent of Duke.
I don't expect him to shoot thirty eight percent in
the NBA is a rookie, but he's gonna be fine.
I just think the overreaction and this whole like he's
andre Kirolinko.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Can we stop with that nonsense. It's just goofy.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
People forget when it comes to the draft. It's not
about what you are, it's about what you can be.
I've tried to hammer this home in the NFL. I
try to hammer this home in the NBA. Nobody cares
about what VJ. Edgecomb is as a rookie in Philly.
He's drafted super high because what's he gonna be in
(05:05):
three four, five years. We've got him on the rookie deal.
What can he be? Well, I'm here to tell you,
Cooper flag to me. I look at him, and I
see a young Kevin Garnett. And I know everybody who's
gonna hear that and see it online is gonna say, well,
wait a minute, Kevin Garnett wont An MVP. Kevin Garnett
was leading the league in rebounds for four straight years.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, when he's like twenty.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Seven, Cooper Flag at eighteen is better than Kevin Garnett
was at eighteen period.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
I mean, you can look up the stats Kevin Garnett's
rookie year.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
He was fine.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Cooper Flag will be better because he's more of an
advanced player at this juncture.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Now the question becomes will he continue to.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Improve the way Yannis, the way Yo Kisch, the way
kg Those.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Guys improved dramatically.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Guys like Lebron and Luca came in not as finished products,
but they were different. Okay, Luca was like twenty one,
seven and six as a rookie. Lebron I think was
like averaging nineteen points, five boards, five assists. Those are
other worldly numbers. Extraordinary players, historic greats. I think Cooper
Flag can get there. He's obviously not there yet, but
(06:12):
can we please stop overreacting to him shooting five of
twenty one in what he called one of the worst
games of his life.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Here's Cooper Flag on his Summer League debut.
Speaker 8 (06:22):
I'll just kind of really get into a rhythm you know,
it's a different environment. You know, I think it's obviously
very differ college. It's probably very different from what you
know the run is. That'd be like, I'm not necessarily worried,
but obviously just not happy with that win, but enough
and then they would get the way.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Yeah, I mean, listen, the win matters, I'm sure to
those who care about Summer League, and Cooper Flag obviously
wants to start his career with a win. I'll just say,
I see a guy who does everything well at eighteen,
and that frankly terrifies me. Winning and what he is,
he's a winning player. I mean, don't let's not bring
up the loss to Houston that costs me a lot
of money in the NCAA tournament. That was not on
(06:58):
Cooper Flag. He's got to get the ball. And oh,
by the way, just one last small thing for the
basketball hoop heads out there, go look at the reel
of Cooper Flag last night. Every time he got in
a lane, two three defenders waiting for not gonna happen.
In the NBA, folks, he'll be surrounded by real NBA
players like Klay Thompson, who you can't leave open, like PJ. Washington,
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who becomes all of a sudden a good shooter when
he's around Luca and Kyrie. He's gonna have NBA players
around him, You're not gonna be able to clog the lane.
And Cooper Flag's gonna be duncan on a lot of
people and.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Have a really good rookie year.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
All right, I want to pivot now to a story
that was just breaking right before we came on air
about a fractured relationship between the Lakers and Lebron James. Now,
if you've been paying attention for a couple of weeks, it's.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Been smelling a little funky in LA. Things have not
been trending well.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
And according to a big deep dive from Brian Windhurst
and Ramona Shelbourne, Lebron James is pretty ticked off. And listen,
you can see from his actions that he's not thrilled
with what's going on. And according to the story, and
Windhorst is a great reporter and I know him well
and Ramona Shelburn, they're good. They're buttoned up. This is
top level stuff. This isn't transactional reporting. They are handed
(08:18):
to you from agents. This is stuff you got a
fish for and it sounds like the gist of it is, Hey, Lakers,
let's remember a few things here. Lebron picked the Lakers.
Lebron dragged the Lakers out of the wilderness.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Everybody wants to remember. Kobe's final game was awesome.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
It was.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
The final five years before Lebron got there, the Lakers
were a dumpster fire. It was the worst stretch in
franchise history. Lebron saved them. He pulled them out of
that disaster, okay, and within a couple of years brought
them a title, got them Anthony Davis. Okay, Lebron saved
the Lakers franchise. That's not probably, that's fact.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
He saved him.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
And now as he ages into his forties, Lebron is
feeling like the love is not quite there anymore and
the focus is on the new shiny toy Luka Doncic.
And this article really articulates how there was a big
whine and dine between the powers that be of the
Lakers and Luca and Lebron didn't get the invite. Maybe
(09:27):
he has got lost in the mail. And it was basically,
how can we move forward. Here's our game players that
we want to do and it was like Lebron was
not an integral part of that, and you could see
how he would feel salty. He was a second team
All NBA. Guys, he's the greatest player in the history
of basketball, and he was awesome last year at this age, Like,
can we respect.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Him a little bit now?
Speaker 4 (09:49):
From the Lakers camp, they will certainly push back, well, well,
wait a minute, Lebron, what are you talking about last year?
You want us to draft your boy, bronni We drafted
him last year. You want a JJ Redick as head coach,
We got him. So we're still catering to you, my guy.
You're still in our game plan.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
But the problem is things have changed since last summer.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
The Luka Doncics trade changed everything.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Remember before the Lakers were like, oh, we can build
around Anthony Davis going forward, as Lebron gets into his forties, ad.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Will be our centerpiece. Lakers had an opportunity to.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Get younger and better and they did that, and it's
pretty clear there's some mending of fences to be done
with Lebron and Jovann Buja, who covers the Lakers closely.
He was on here yesterday talking about this relationship. Lebron
wants him to spend all the picks. Here's Jovann talking
about the issues.
Speaker 9 (10:47):
This is the first time you could say in Lebron's
career he hasn't been the sole focus or the primary
focus of his franchise that he's been on. Like even
with Ad it was all like it was always Lebron
trying to pass the baton to Ad Luke, who just
came in and got the baton right.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
Like, I get it. He's a guy who's about to.
Speaker 9 (11:04):
Enter his prime, has already led a team to the finals.
But Lebron's just I think the big thing is like
he sees the finish line, whether it's another year, two years,
and he wants to win that fifth ring, and it
doesn't feel like the Lakers are going all in on
this year's roster.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
So now that's a decent point. Lebron's looking around being like,
are we better? Can we compete with Denver and Houston?
I think DeAndre Aiden, I know the take yesterday did
not go over well.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
On the Andrew webs.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Let's just be real, guys, DeAndre Aiden at eight million
dollars is a heist next year for the Lakers. Absolute
steal you take him over Rudy Gobert for thirty six
million in a heartbeat.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
All right, So the Lakers did get better.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Obviously, Aiden's got a bit of an ugly history being
a malecontent. But let's see if he shapes up with
Luca and Lebron on the roster. And I got to
ask this Bradley Beal thing. A lot of people are
projecting the Clippers to get him. If the Lakers get Beal.
I don't want to hear this. It's like Russell Westbrook.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
It's absolutely not. They're not even close to the same player.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Westbrook's kind of an unhinged I'm gonna get mine.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I can do it myself.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Guy.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
That's not Bradley Beal. Bradley Bial's never want anything, never
been anywhere. He'll fall in line. I think obviously Lebron
is upset with how things went. Remember at the deadline,
they could have got Mark Williams, which would have been
good Lakers Nicks that trade. I think in hindsight, we'll
look back at that moment and be like that was smart.
Why Because the Lakers are not gonna be hamstrung for
(12:28):
the next three four five years. They're able to build
quickly around Luca, and I guess I can wrap up
with this. The whole two timelines thing is difficult. You
want to know, go ask the Golden State Warriors. Remember
after Durant left, they had injuries to Clay and Curry.
They end up with a top five pick and that's
(12:49):
where they've got James Wiseman, and they also got Jonathan Kuminga.
And those were two guys they thought they could build
around going forward, but they had this old ring Draymond Green,
Klay Thompson Lebron. How do you merge those two timelines
and get them on the same page. Now, the Warriors,
while they technically couldn't figure it out, they did figure
(13:12):
it out because they got another title, but they didn't
secure the long term with Wiseman and Kamingo. Wiseman got
shipped out of town. He really hasn't panned out anywhere,
and Kaminga is probably gonna land elsewhere here in the
next ten days.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
So that timeline's done.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
It's difficult to thread that needle between young guys and
old Luca. What twenty six Lebron forty, that's gonna be
immensely difficult. There are gonna be some hiccups. I think
they just Lakers need to man up, get to the table.
Tell Lebron, hey, we can compete. DeAndre.
Speaker 10 (13:47):
Hey.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
By the way, Lebron, did you watch how Okase struggled
against Jokic. Did you see how Okase struggled against Zubac?
They can't handle Biggs, then they gotta go Bigs and
their strength of guards and wings goes out the window.
We've got eighton. Obviously he's not Jokic, but he can
hang inside. He'll give okay, see problems like there is
a world where the Lakers compete. But I think Lebron
(14:11):
just needs to be shown to love and.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Frankly, sometimes we all need a little bit of love.
Speaker 10 (14:16):
Right.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
We have a phenomenal show today and coming up next. OKC,
You know I just mentioned them. They just signed another
guy to a massive contract, but their title window it's
smaller than you think because of some dumb NBA rules.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
That's next year on The Herd.
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Speaker 4 (15:27):
Welcome back our number two here on the Herd. It's
a gorgeous Friday morning in Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
It's me Jason McIntyre in for Colin Cowhard. I did
speak with the big guy yesterday. He is enjoying the
burning embers of his summer vacation in Heart's Unknown.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
I just like saying that because they used to announce
a wrestling duel from Parts Unknown.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I don't know if you guys remember that.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Yes, I was a huge wrestling fan as a kid.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I'm joined by Alex Curry, who I don't track. Were
you a wrestling fan?
Speaker 6 (16:00):
No, No, I will say now, I appreciate the art
of it because it is. It's art, it's acting. And
I think when you look at it that way, like
it's not you're like, oh, it's not real. It's like,
oh no, it's real. These are incredible athletes. But it's theater.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
It's theater.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
It's theater, so you have to look at it like theater.
And I was a big theater nerd as a Thespian
growing up, So like once I think I equated it
to that, I was like, oh, I get it.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
This is cool.
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Speaker 3 (16:28):
I know The Rock.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
I love Dayne the Rock Johnson, he's like my fave.
It seems like a nice guy.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
All right.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Coming up here in like six minutes, Holy cow, we
get an all pro NFL quarterback, Marlon Humphrey from the Ravens.
You know, there's a new ranking out The best secondary
in the league belongs to the Ravens. Interesting the way
they're building it. But we'll talk to Marlon Humphrey soon.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I want to go here.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
They love to do a good list on this show.
They travel well online, so they came up with j MAC.
We need a six pack of teams that can win
the Super Bowl, and there's a couple obvious ones we'll
get to. I could only find two in the AFC
and four in the NFC. So here's my six teams
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as of right now, early July twenty twenty five, who
can win the twenty twenty six Super Bowl. Let's start
with the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
They had a terrible year last year, but it was
due to injury. Now they get Brandon and Ayuk should
be back, although I'm seeing one report he may not
start Week one. We'll see, but you should be a
factor when he returns. Obviously, the young fellow they drafted
last year, that Christian McCaffrey, comes back.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Trent William still breathing. I think this is going to
be a great team.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
The schedule is the great determinant, with the Niners easiest
by far in the league. They only face three playoff
teams from last year. They don't face any of the
top five quarterbacks in the league. Folks, the Niners are
a Super Bowl contender. I would say a minimum of
twelve or thirteen wins next up.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
My pick to win the Super Bowl next year the
Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
They've been knocking on the door for a few years.
Josh Allen obviously tremendous.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
They came up a.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Little short in the playoff game in Kansas City. We
will not relitigate the terrible officiating in that one. Obviously
Buffalo had some self inflicted wounds. Trying to pull off
the tush push, brotherly show, whatever you want to call it,
repeatedly and it failed.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
The Bill did add Joey Bosa.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Not a bad pickup Josh Palmer from the Chargers Tredavius White.
Not sure what he can give you as like a
Nicol dime quarterback. But they also have a very favorable
schedule and they've won the last five AFCAST titles. Wow,
it did not realize that it's been a while for
my Jets, the third team, I think they win the
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Super Bowl next year. A bit of a dart throw
here Washington Commanders, so instantly I get pushed back. Well,
the Texans had a good first year with CJ. Stroud,
then they fell back a.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Little, still made the playoffs. I thought.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Washington adding Laramie Tunzel and Deebo Samuel was just a
stroke of genius. I think is a really good team.
I think they'll push the Eagles in the NFC East.
They're vastly superior to the Cowboys and Giants, and you
just you look at the continuity, kept their head coach,
kept both coordinators. Terry McLaurin told out should be done
here shortly, folks. I know they got slaughtered by the
(19:28):
Eagles in the NFC Championship game. They will be much
better if that win over Detroit in the playoffs. I mean,
did Jayden Daniels making the leap in year two? I'm
bullish on Washington. I think they could win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Team number four, Yes, you got to go for the
Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
They are favored to repeat. I do think it'll be
a challenge. I would not bet them to repeat. Offensive
line is formidable. Saquon Barkley coming off a heavy usage
year scares me a little bit. You know, I have
Jalen Hurts as the fifth best quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
They did lose their defensive coordinator.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
They lost Makai Becked and Josh Swtt, Brandon Graham, Darius Lay, CJ.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Gardner, Johnson. That's like six starters gone.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
But the Eagles are gonna certainly be an eleven win
team and there's just too much talent not to be
in the Super Bowl discussion. Next up, yes, sirree, the
La Rams. They are really the Arrows. Super duper pointing
upward for them. They had the best off season according
to one report.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
You know they grade the moves.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
One report had the Rams having the best off season.
Adding DeVante Adams certainly helps. They lose Cooper Cup, but
DeVante Adams and Pooka that is pretty impressive. And they're
drafts the last couple of years. Between Pooka Jared vers Fisk,
they've just hit.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Home run after home run. Is a really really good team.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
If the offensive line holds up, they should make the
NFC Championship.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Finally, my final team of the six.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Pack, they could win the Super And it's not just
because he's coming up as a guest here, but Baltimore
Ravens number one secondary in the NFL. Obviously, the Lamar
Jackson a Derreck Henry combination is just filthy.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
You have to love adding.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
JayR Alexander as like a dime cornerback. They got him
on the cheap Malachi Starks should form the best safety
duo in the league. I know he's only a rookie,
but he and Hamilton should be really formidable on the
back end. If the wide receivers can stay healthy. I mean, listen,
if Mark Andrews doesn't drop a two point conversion. I
don't know the Ravens any Super Bowl? Do they beat
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the Chiefs on the road? Is a really, really good team?
The Ravens will certainly be there. Ken Lamar deliver in January,
that's the big question. So those are my six teams
that can win the Super Bowl. The Jmax six pack.
They love this photo and look at the.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Jets on a dinghy?
Speaker 7 (21:52):
Is that what that is? A dingy?
Speaker 6 (21:54):
An inner tube, entertaine safety tube or whatever. Someone goes overboard,
you toss it to him, basically over We're a good
fifteen years now.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
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Speaker 4 (22:13):
All right, let's get to our guest, Marlon Humphrey joining
the Herd, the all pro quarterback from the Baltimore Ravens
at college football legend what's up, man?
Speaker 5 (22:22):
How you doing?
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Not that much? Feeling good?
Speaker 10 (22:26):
And joined the last couple of days before I got
to start the real world.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
So I'm feeling good.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yeah, let me ask you. What was the summer like?
I mean you you've been on a hiatus. Did you
go travel the world? Was you just grinding on football?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
What was going on?
Speaker 7 (22:41):
A lot of golf? A lot of uh, A lot
of leslie nights.
Speaker 10 (22:46):
I just had a well, not just ad but got
a six month old now, so it's been a different offseason.
Definitely not my norm. But I just got into golf.
So golf's been greats football training and then a lot
of family time. But we just got had a family vacation,
so it's really good. But it's been great. Life has
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been really good.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Real quick on the golf. I find golf a little slow,
you know. I like to up more up post stuff.
How do you handle that transition? Football fast and powerful
and golf is just like taking it easy?
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (23:22):
I became a member of the country club that doesn't
have a crazy ton amount of members, so people are
going too slow. I just leave that hole, go to
skip around a lot of different holes.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
So I've made it kind of as.
Speaker 10 (23:36):
I don't know if I'm allowed to do that, so honestly,
I might be telling on myself. But I've made it
a little bit faster. But that is sometimes the bad
thing of golf.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
It takes.
Speaker 10 (23:45):
It can take some time do some slower players, and
I feel like, if you're not you're gonna be a
slower player. You at least got to be good. And
most people that are slow are not good. So that
needs to be a new rule for sure.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I hope your wife likes it when you say, hey,
i'll be back in five hours, I'm going to play golf.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
My wife doesn't.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Anyways. Let's get to the NFL aspect.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
So Pro Football Focus recently ranked the secondaries of the league,
and you guys are number one.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
A is at a surprise, be obvious.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
And see, you know a lot of defenses these days,
Marlon are building. Hey, you just need edge rushers, let's
start there. Cornerback is secondary safety, and linebacker forget it.
But you guys are kind of built different from the
back end.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Yeah, I think for me.
Speaker 10 (24:27):
Honestly, we were thirty second last year, I believe, last
in the league. So rush of the ranked number one
does not really mean anything to me.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
I just would love to not be last. I would
love to be number one.
Speaker 10 (24:40):
That would be amazing, But I'm really focused on what
we just did last year. We got essentially most of
the same guys returning, so I would love to finish
number one.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
That'd be great.
Speaker 10 (24:51):
But I do know right now, the only thing on
my mind is we were the thirty second ranked and
that was That's that's not cool, and that's not very good.
So I'm trying to fix that before we even think
about being number one.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Toughest quarterback you faced last season, all the.
Speaker 10 (25:12):
Toughest quarterback I faced last season would probably I.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Mean, he faced a lot of good ones.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
That's a.
Speaker 10 (25:22):
Oh Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow, I don't even know, Yeah,
Joe Burrow a surprising second, even though we ended up
winning that game. But I felt we caught them on
the earlier end. Jaden Daniels what we caught them pretty
early on. But I just remember, I'm like man for
his got to be a rookie. He was just so poised,
so smooth, seemed like he never was really fazed, honestly,
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so I think from a young young talent perspective, he's
I mean, he already is a is a star, but
he was He's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Interesting, So no mention of Josh Allen there. I don't
know Buffalo fans are going to take that as a
slight or.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Did you you know it was Josh Allen easier.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
To prep for.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
No.
Speaker 10 (26:05):
I think they their game well going up their playoff
game plan.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
It just was a pretty it was a playoff.
Speaker 10 (26:11):
Game plan, I felt, and they didn't really have him
do anything crazy that they didn't need to do. They
were I thought their game plan was really good against us,
and they just kind of kept us on our heels
and we just couldn't really we currently make good plays
we needed to make.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
I think you see more.
Speaker 10 (26:28):
I feel like you see a little bit more from
a quarterback in a bad way of when they score
a lot of points on you and either you're ahead
and they're trying to come back, and the quarterbacks really
got to just full blown carry the team. But Josh
Allen Bafar managed the game that playoff game and just
a great way. And obviously they beat us, and you know,
we played Jalen Hurts, but that was another to me,
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a simple, simpler game plan, and so there was a
lot of good quarterbacks, but the ones that seemed like,
you know, this guy's pretty good obviously Joe Burrow and
they jaded.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, let me quickly. You mentioned playoffs, so.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
I'll ask about it. Listen.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
You guys have had some tough endings to the season, obviously,
you know, the loss in Buffalo was just brutal.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I'm just curious, what's the mood.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Like after that, because every season you guys go and
thinking we got a shot at the super Bowl and
then to come up short again.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
I don't know what was a vibe like do you
remember that day? Pretty close?
Speaker 10 (27:26):
It's it's not the best I think it was a
lot of uncertainty. I felt for myself for some of
the other guys. Ton't know if you'd they'd be around
the next year, including myself, And so there's a lot
of uncertainty. Obviously, you know, teams change every single year.
Felt that you had a really good roster at the time,
(27:50):
So yeah, it was just a lot of uncertainty. It
was a lot of you know, kind of what happened,
you know, what did we do wrong here?
Speaker 7 (27:56):
But it was definitely.
Speaker 10 (27:58):
You know, obviously every year if you don't win the
Super Bowl, it's you didn't get the objective. But over
my past eight years, it was definitely a definitely a
different feeling of just it was just different, you know.
I don't know if it was because we felt we
had a good team or what, But if I had
to put into words, it would be just a lot
of uncertainty.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I don't know if Lamar is a golfing partner, but
I'm sure you get this a lot. Hey man, when
is Lamar gonna carry you guys one day in January?
And I know it win as a team, loses a team,
but he has had some playoff games where he hasn't
been MVP caliber. What do you say to people when
they when they ask you about or maybe nobody asked
you about this.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I don't know, especially I.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
Don't get access too often. I think, I, you know,
I have the player.
Speaker 10 (28:44):
I don't really see it as a just quarterback only
type stat I know that's kind of how it is.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
It's all about, you know, the quarterback.
Speaker 10 (28:52):
But I just want to focus on, you know, how
can we help, how can we play better? How can
we win the game on defense? There's been a lot
of past Baltimore Ravens defenses that have you know, led teams.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
All I know is that the biggest status. You know,
we haven't really had.
Speaker 10 (29:07):
I think we've had one ton over and all of
Lamar's playoff games.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
So I know it's all about the quarterback.
Speaker 10 (29:12):
But you know, when you look at the numbers, you
look at the stats, you look at the reality, the
Baltimore Areas defense hasn't really helped out at all or
even done their part to.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
Win some of these playoff games.
Speaker 10 (29:22):
And that's kind of the biggest focus on us in
the defensive room this offseason, and that'll be the focus
in training camp, practice and it'll translate to games.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
A little inside football. But the JayR Alexander addition, does
this change anything for you? Do you prefer playing on
the inside outside? Does it matter or or because the
secondary is pretty stacked right now.
Speaker 10 (29:42):
Yeah, yeah, it didn't matter to me. I was super
excited to add him to the to the squad. I
actually tried to hit him up on Instagram, but he
deleted his Instagram, so I was like scrambling get his number,
and then by the time I even could get it,
I see him in the building and so I'm like,
all right sweet, and I talked to him, and I'm
(30:03):
just super excited. We got a lot of great players
in our second aar of this year. I think the
way we want to play, who plays where matchups, we
put all our best guys in the field.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
Yeah, I'm just super excited it.
Speaker 10 (30:16):
I think you just can't go wrong adding a guy
like that, And so I'm really excited for this year
secondary and excited us to just make.
Speaker 7 (30:23):
A lot of plays and hopefully he'll he'll help.
Speaker 10 (30:25):
Like I said, with getting those turnovers in the playoffs.
You've done it before and I look for him doing
it again.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Let me quickly ask you.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
I noticed you played in twenty fifteen at Alabama on
a loaded team with Derrick Henry. Is that the most
dominant team you've ever been on or was there a
Ravens team you felt that was more.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Dominant, Because you guys, I'm looking at the.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Results twenty fifteen, you guys just eviscerated almost everybody.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
We Yeah, it would be it would be hard.
Speaker 10 (30:54):
I have been on the number one defense in the NFL,
but that that that Alabama team was just next level.
I think everyone on the starters ended up getting drafted
into the NFL. You're freaking giving it ball with Derek
Henry forty times the game.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
Nobody could stop it. So there was there was, it was.
Speaker 10 (31:14):
It was honestly pretty crazy to look back on that team,
and you know, obviously the next year we end up
losing a Clemson, but it would have been great to repeat.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
But that that that's the fifteen team.
Speaker 10 (31:24):
It was just it was just loaded and I don't
I don't know if there were that domination is can
only be done really at the college level.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
But that was. That was a great year.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Yeah, all right, we could wrap up. You got a movie,
Nothing but a Winner. It's a documentary, tell us about
it being part of the process.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
What's that been like and any comparisons to football.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
Yeah, so it was great.
Speaker 10 (31:47):
I executive produced Nothing but a Winner, me and my sister,
she's the actress in LA. It was a great opportunity
that got presented to me and I was able to
be a part of it, kind of have inputs here
and there and different things. Basically just about you know
the history of two great coaches at happened to be
at the Universe Alabama. Some of the wins, some of
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the you know, ugly losses, the kick six for Harvard
fans out there.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
Tune intc they had and you know kind.
Speaker 10 (32:15):
Of how Bama came up part to be, you know,
with segregation and different things first, you know, athlete African
American athlete at the university, So a lot of different
things going on with it.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
But it's just just basically a.
Speaker 10 (32:30):
Documentary about just greatness, how it form, the process of it,
all the great things that kind of is in the
rich history of Alabama football and just winning coaches. That's
the biggest thing is you can take away with your
Alabama fan, not Alabama fan. It's just really a documentary
about just something great and it'll be out soon and
it'll be it'll be really good.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Yeah, it sounds like July thirty first in theaters.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Congrats on that. I'm curious.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
A lot of people look to set themselves up for
a post career. You just turned twenty nine, so you
got a ways to go. But is Hollywood where you want.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
To go next?
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Or you know a lot of guys transition to the media,
or you could you know, do what Cam Newton's doing
and just start a podcast and trying to go rebel
rouse that way, What do you think a post career.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
I've had a lot of different thoughts.
Speaker 10 (33:17):
Media was one, you know, Hollywood would be would be
awesome if I if I chose that route. There's you
know that that's something I kind of think about. You know,
obviously you do football for a long time and you're
you kind of figure out what do you want to
do after There's so.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Many different ways you can go.
Speaker 10 (33:33):
But I would love to, you know, I always wanted
to direct a movie. I always wanted to play in
a movie. So I've always wanted to do something around
that space. Maybe not full time. But the cool thing
about all that is that's something you can do and
do something else. But media, Hollywood, all those things are
kind of things that interest me. And just we'll just
have to see when what happens when I when I
(33:54):
retire with the wife says, you know, she'll so I
always have a big part in that. I wish I
could be a prob. If I could do that, I
would that would be the biggest one. But think I
missed too many reps when I was six, seven, eight
years old.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
You can't get back, and so.
Speaker 10 (34:09):
The best I could do now was maybe break eighty
one day of my life, and I'll consider that must
super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Hey, let me ask one more things. I just was
watching those highlights and I thought about something. So, Travis
Hunter is coming into the league as an elite cornerback
and wants to play both ways. I'm assuming in high
school you were playing both ways and dominating. But Marlin,
my big thing.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
The second he.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Said this, I was like, Okay, so you.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Got to play the Ravens, So you got to go
tackle Derreck, Henry and Space, then go to the sideline
and come back on and run a bunch of pass pack.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
That's impossible. How on earth is he going to be
able to do this? And I'm just curious your thoughts
on did you play two ways in high school?
Speaker 7 (34:44):
And? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Is this mission impossible for Travis Hunter?
Speaker 7 (34:48):
I think, you know, he is very talented. I think
he's me watching.
Speaker 10 (34:54):
I think he's a really really elite dB based off
the you know, a couple of games I saw this
past year.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
But to do both it seems very mission impossible esque.
You know.
Speaker 10 (35:04):
I think Dion obviously did a little bit of it,
you know, back in his day, but I just think
the game has changed so much since then. Dion was
clearly light and day the fastest guy out there. Nowadays,
everybody's fast, you know. I think of Jason Kelsey, that
dude's running up on you just as fastest as that
receiver tight end. So I think he's really got a
(35:28):
tough challenge ahead. I think eventually he will realize, Man,
it's really really hard to do this at a high
level where every week you're.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Playing a top NFL team.
Speaker 10 (35:38):
It's not like college where you know, there is teams
on everyone's roster where it's like this should be a
pretty easy game, and that's just not the case in
the NFL. And I think he'll I hope he has
success with it, and I hope he just decides it's
just too much for me as opposed to you know,
he kind of struggles with it. But I I think
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he has the ability to do it, but I more
just think the stamina to do it.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
I don't know if anyone has that to do it
for season.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
You played with Dereck Henry in college. Now he's your teammate.
Have you I'm just curious, have you ever tackled him?
Speaker 3 (36:11):
What? What the hell is that?
Speaker 7 (36:12):
Like, the problem is he's so tall.
Speaker 10 (36:16):
A lot of times you go low, he his knee
will actually hits your head, and it's it's a lot.
Speaker 7 (36:23):
He's this stuff, got to tackle.
Speaker 10 (36:25):
He's somehow, I don't know how, he gets stronger and
faster in the fourth quarter while everyone else seems to
be fatiguing, And I think that gives him a lot
of his advantage. But his exception speed. He's so tall,
he's getting on the edge faster than what you think.
And if you if you don't go now, it's it's bad.
And his stiff armed will throw you around. But it's rough.
It's something at the corner you think, I shouldn't be
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doing this. I don't want to do this. The linebacker
Delan should be doing this. But when you do, gotta
do it, you gotta. You gotta run your feet trying
to close your eyes and try to get him down.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Yeah, good stuff, Marlon Humphrey, check out is moving nothing
but a winner. End of this month in theater's congrats
on everything man, and good luck this year.
Speaker 7 (37:03):
Yes, yes, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
All right, Marlon Humphrey, who's a budding golfer who.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Knew I had no idea, but I hope Travis Houhner
was listening.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Did you.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
I mean, did you hear did you see the reaction?
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Alex?
Speaker 3 (37:14):
He almost start of laughing. He's like, yeah, that's mischiev
It's hard. I mean again, like.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
You, you never wanted to ter someone from reaching a
crazy goal that we've never seen before.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
I mean, people left to show.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
Hey Otani when he said he was going to be
a power hitter and an ace pitcher. Obviously it's way
different on your body baseball compared to football.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
But again, don't knock it until until you try it.
Speaker 6 (37:36):
I think that's kind of most players reactions are going
to be what Marlin's reaction was. But again he's very impressed.
Producer Golfer like like that was a good interview
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah, Jarland Humphrey fun
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Pack me Friday. Everybody, What is up? It's your boy Jason.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
MacIntyre in for Colin cowhert He is beca Monday. I
know you're excited, boy, a.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Lot of venom online yesterday for some of the takes.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
But hey, it's Friday. Take Happy Hour in full effect.
I'm joining on this beautiful Friday by Alex Curry. Alex,
I know you're excited for your big leaves that's coming up.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
Yeah, I'm excited. There's a lot, there's the unknown, you know,
But we Onnday time, so we're here today.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
We're gonna have a great last day.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
We are.
Speaker 6 (01:04):
I love that you were getting beat for your takes
yesterday because that means that they were polarizing, which is
what you want to do.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah, I want to be loved.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
I just want to be going to be loved in
this industry.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Although I'll say there was a story that dropped like
eight minutes before we walked on a set Ooh it
is spicy, and we'll get to that shortly. I don't
want to say Lebron versus Luca, but something's happening in
LA and it does not look good for the King.
Speaker 7 (01:29):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
We got a great show lined up, a lot of
exciting fun guests will do Summer League stuff, little NFL,
but we're gonna start with the big debut.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Last night, Cooper Flag, the eighteen.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Year old phenom from Duke, in his first NBA Summer
League game. Now, I know everybody wants to draw dramatic,
sweeping conclusions from a Summer League game in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I'm just gonna warn you don't do that.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Okay. The eighteen year old Cooper Flag had an uneven game.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Listen, this is what happens.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
What Remember Jebin Yama last year came out in his
first Summer League game and was kind of awful, and everybody, Oh, he's.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Not gonna He's gotta be fine.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
That was two years ago. But Cooper Flag last night
shoots five of twenty one ohover five on threes, and
all I hear is, well, I.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Don't know, his shot doesn't look good?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Jay, I didn't. Where is he elite? I'm like, guys,
we saw him for a full season of Duke. He's
elite everywhere. I mean, I just thought the overreaction to
Cooper Flagg shooting last night was goofy.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Let me tell you what he does well?
Speaker 5 (02:34):
The guy's a winning basketball player?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Should I mention?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
With seventy seconds left, he makes the game saving block
on a layup attempt by a Laker guard, just swats
it out of thin air and then gets what happens?
He comes down on the fast break and Cooper Flag
makes the game winning assist to a young Memard.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Boy did that kid look good?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
And the MAVs pull out the win over the Lakers,
And somewhere along the line in the NBA mostly we
got to this, Hey, hey, if you're a jack of
old trades but master of none, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
It's just what are you a leite at?
Speaker 7 (03:10):
Well?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Let me ask you, guys.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
When Nicola Jokicic came into the NBA at twenty, what
was he elite at?
Speaker 7 (03:16):
Anyone, anyone?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
What about Yannis?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
He gets to the league at nineteen, this spindly young
fellow from Greece.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
What does yannesty lead at Jay?
Speaker 7 (03:26):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Sorry, length, Okay, that's not an elite trade. That's not
a skill that carries over. Like Yannis came into the league,
he wasn't a leite at anything. Cooper Flag comes in
more advanced than those guys as an eighteen year old.
Remember a month ago he should have graduated in high school.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
That's when you usually graduate high school.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Right, eighteen and a half, eighteen ish.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
He had completed a season at Duke, was utterly dominant,
and now is in the NBA Summer League at eighteen
and a half.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Doesn't turn nineteen until later this year.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
And all these people who are like Jason he shopped
five of twenty one. Look at the form on his shot. Guys,
take a time out, take a deep breath. He played
thirty two minutes last night. Okay, this guy's been working
for the last decade to get to this moment.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
As a young guy.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Of course, he had butterflies.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I will point out he shot eighty four percent from
the line at Duke last season.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Okay, three point shooting.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
You know how you shoot free throws as a better
descriptor of how your three point shooting could go. Cooper's
gonna be fine from three shot thirty eight percent of Duke.
I don't expect him to shoot thirty eight percent in
the NBA is a rookie, but he's gonna be fine.
I just think the overreaction and this whole like he's
andre Kirolinko.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Can we stop with that nonsense. It's just goofy.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
People forget when it comes to the draft. It's not
about what you are, it's about what you can be.
I've tried to hammer this home in the NFL. I
try to hammer this home in the NBA. Nobody cares
about what VJ. Edgecomb is as a rookie in Philly.
He's drafted super high because what's he gonna be in
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three four, five years. We've got him on the rookie deal.
What can he be? Well, I'm here to tell you,
Cooper flag to me. I look at him, and I
see a young Kevin Garnett. And I know everybody who's
gonna hear that and see it online is gonna say, well,
wait a minute, Kevin Garnett wont An MVP. Kevin Garnett
was leading the league in rebounds for four straight years.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, when he's like twenty.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Seven, Cooper Flag at eighteen is better than Kevin Garnett
was at eighteen period.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
I mean, you can look up the stats Kevin Garnett's
rookie year.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
He was fine.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Cooper Flag will be better because he's more of an
advanced player at this juncture.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Now the question becomes will he continue to.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Improve the way Yannis, the way Yo Kisch, the way
kg Those.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Guys improved dramatically.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Guys like Lebron and Luca came in not as finished products,
but they were different. Okay, Luca was like twenty one,
seven and six as a rookie. Lebron I think was
like averaging nineteen points, five boards, five assists. Those are
other worldly numbers. Extraordinary players, historic greats. I think Cooper
Flag can get there. He's obviously not there yet, but
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can we please stop overreacting to him shooting five of
twenty one in what he called one of the worst
games of his life.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Here's Cooper Flag on his Summer League debut.
Speaker 8 (06:22):
I'll just kind of really get into a rhythm you know,
it's a different environment. You know, I think it's obviously
very differ college. It's probably very different from what you
know the run is. That'd be like, I'm not necessarily worried,
but obviously just not happy with that win, but enough
and then they would get the way.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Yeah, I mean, listen, the win matters, I'm sure to
those who care about Summer League, and Cooper Flag obviously
wants to start his career with a win. I'll just say,
I see a guy who does everything well at eighteen,
and that frankly terrifies me. Winning and what he is,
he's a winning player. I mean, don't let's not bring
up the loss to Houston that costs me a lot
of money in the NCAA tournament. That was not on
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Cooper Flag. He's got to get the ball. And oh,
by the way, just one last small thing for the
basketball hoop heads out there, go look at the reel
of Cooper Flag last night. Every time he got in
a lane, two three defenders waiting for not gonna happen.
In the NBA, folks, he'll be surrounded by real NBA
players like Klay Thompson, who you can't leave open, like PJ. Washington,
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who becomes all of a sudden a good shooter when
he's around Luca and Kyrie. He's gonna have NBA players
around him, You're not gonna be able to clog the lane.
And Cooper Flag's gonna be duncan on a lot of
people and.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Have a really good rookie year.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
All right, I want to pivot now to a story
that was just breaking right before we came on air
about a fractured relationship between the Lakers and Lebron James. Now,
if you've been paying attention for a couple of weeks, it's.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Been smelling a little funky in LA. Things have not
been trending well.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
And according to a big deep dive from Brian Windhurst
and Ramona Shelbourne, Lebron James is pretty ticked off. And listen,
you can see from his actions that he's not thrilled
with what's going on. And according to the story, and
Windhorst is a great reporter and I know him well
and Ramona Shelburn, they're good. They're buttoned up. This is
top level stuff. This isn't transactional reporting. They are handed
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to you from agents. This is stuff you got a
fish for and it sounds like the gist of it is, Hey, Lakers,
let's remember a few things here. Lebron picked the Lakers.
Lebron dragged the Lakers out of the wilderness.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Everybody wants to remember. Kobe's final game was awesome.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
It was.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
The final five years before Lebron got there, the Lakers
were a dumpster fire. It was the worst stretch in
franchise history. Lebron saved them. He pulled them out of
that disaster, okay, and within a couple of years brought
them a title, got them Anthony Davis. Okay, Lebron saved
the Lakers franchise. That's not probably, that's fact.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
He saved him.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
And now as he ages into his forties, Lebron is
feeling like the love is not quite there anymore and
the focus is on the new shiny toy Luka Doncic.
And this article really articulates how there was a big
whine and dine between the powers that be of the
Lakers and Luca and Lebron didn't get the invite. Maybe
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he has got lost in the mail. And it was basically,
how can we move forward. Here's our game players that
we want to do and it was like Lebron was
not an integral part of that, and you could see
how he would feel salty. He was a second team
All NBA. Guys, he's the greatest player in the history
of basketball, and he was awesome last year at this age, Like,
can we respect.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Him a little bit now?
Speaker 4 (09:49):
From the Lakers camp, they will certainly push back, well, well,
wait a minute, Lebron, what are you talking about last year?
You want us to draft your boy, bronni We drafted
him last year. You want a JJ Redick as head coach,
We got him. So we're still catering to you, my guy.
You're still in our game plan.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
But the problem is things have changed since last summer.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
The Luka Doncics trade changed everything.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Remember before the Lakers were like, oh, we can build
around Anthony Davis going forward, as Lebron gets into his forties, ad.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Will be our centerpiece. Lakers had an opportunity to.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Get younger and better and they did that, and it's
pretty clear there's some mending of fences to be done
with Lebron and Jovann Buja, who covers the Lakers closely.
He was on here yesterday talking about this relationship. Lebron
wants him to spend all the picks. Here's Jovann talking
about the issues.
Speaker 9 (10:47):
This is the first time you could say in Lebron's
career he hasn't been the sole focus or the primary
focus of his franchise that he's been on. Like even
with Ad it was all like it was always Lebron
trying to pass the baton to Ad Luke, who just
came in and got the baton right.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
Like, I get it. He's a guy who's about to.
Speaker 9 (11:04):
Enter his prime, has already led a team to the finals.
But Lebron's just I think the big thing is like
he sees the finish line, whether it's another year, two years,
and he wants to win that fifth ring, and it
doesn't feel like the Lakers are going all in on
this year's roster.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
So now that's a decent point. Lebron's looking around being like,
are we better? Can we compete with Denver and Houston?
I think DeAndre Aiden, I know the take yesterday did
not go over well.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
On the Andrew webs.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Let's just be real, guys, DeAndre Aiden at eight million
dollars is a heist next year for the Lakers. Absolute
steal you take him over Rudy Gobert for thirty six
million in a heartbeat.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
All right, So the Lakers did get better.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Obviously, Aiden's got a bit of an ugly history being
a malecontent. But let's see if he shapes up with
Luca and Lebron on the roster. And I got to
ask this Bradley Beal thing. A lot of people are
projecting the Clippers to get him. If the Lakers get Beal.
I don't want to hear this. It's like Russell Westbrook.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
It's absolutely not. They're not even close to the same player.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Westbrook's kind of an unhinged I'm gonna get mine.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I can do it myself.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Guy.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
That's not Bradley Beal. Bradley Bial's never want anything, never
been anywhere. He'll fall in line. I think obviously Lebron
is upset with how things went. Remember at the deadline,
they could have got Mark Williams, which would have been
good Lakers Nicks that trade. I think in hindsight, we'll
look back at that moment and be like that was smart.
Why Because the Lakers are not gonna be hamstrung for
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the next three four five years. They're able to build
quickly around Luca, and I guess I can wrap up
with this. The whole two timelines thing is difficult. You
want to know, go ask the Golden State Warriors. Remember
after Durant left, they had injuries to Clay and Curry.
They end up with a top five pick and that's
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where they've got James Wiseman, and they also got Jonathan Kuminga.
And those were two guys they thought they could build
around going forward, but they had this old ring Draymond Green,
Klay Thompson Lebron. How do you merge those two timelines
and get them on the same page. Now, the Warriors,
while they technically couldn't figure it out, they did figure
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it out because they got another title, but they didn't
secure the long term with Wiseman and Kamingo. Wiseman got
shipped out of town. He really hasn't panned out anywhere,
and Kaminga is probably gonna land elsewhere here in the
next ten days.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
So that timeline's done.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
It's difficult to thread that needle between young guys and
old Luca. What twenty six Lebron forty, that's gonna be
immensely difficult. There are gonna be some hiccups. I think
they just Lakers need to man up, get to the table.
Tell Lebron, hey, we can compete. DeAndre.
Speaker 10 (13:47):
Hey.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
By the way, Lebron, did you watch how Okase struggled
against Jokic. Did you see how Okase struggled against Zubac?
They can't handle Biggs, then they gotta go Bigs and
their strength of guards and wings goes out the window.
We've got eighton. Obviously he's not Jokic, but he can
hang inside. He'll give okay, see problems like there is
a world where the Lakers compete. But I think Lebron
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just needs to be shown to love and.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Frankly, sometimes we all need a little bit of love.
Speaker 10 (14:16):
Right.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
We have a phenomenal show today and coming up next. OKC,
You know I just mentioned them. They just signed another
guy to a massive contract, but their title window it's
smaller than you think because of some dumb NBA rules.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
That's next year on The Herd.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
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Speaker 11 (14:44):
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LeVar Rrington and I couldn't be more excited to announce
a podcast called up on Game.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
What is up on Game?
Speaker 11 (14:54):
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You can only name a show with that type of
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Speaker 4 (15:27):
Welcome back our number two here on the Herd. It's
a gorgeous Friday morning in Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
It's me Jason McIntyre in for Colin Cowhard. I did
speak with the big guy yesterday. He is enjoying the
burning embers of his summer vacation in Heart's Unknown.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
I just like saying that because they used to announce
a wrestling duel from Parts Unknown.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I don't know if you guys remember that.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Yes, I was a huge wrestling fan as a kid.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I'm joined by Alex Curry, who I don't track. Were
you a wrestling fan?
Speaker 6 (16:00):
No, No, I will say now, I appreciate the art
of it because it is. It's art, it's acting. And
I think when you look at it that way, like
it's not you're like, oh, it's not real. It's like,
oh no, it's real. These are incredible athletes. But it's theater.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
It's theater.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
It's theater, so you have to look at it like theater.
And I was a big theater nerd as a Thespian
growing up, So like once I think I equated it
to that, I was like, oh, I get it.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
This is cool.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Jake the Sake, Roberts Ultimate Warriors, don't know very names.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I know The Rock.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
I love Dayne the Rock Johnson, he's like my fave.
It seems like a nice guy.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
All right.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Coming up here in like six minutes, Holy cow, we
get an all pro NFL quarterback, Marlon Humphrey from the Ravens.
You know, there's a new ranking out The best secondary
in the league belongs to the Ravens. Interesting the way
they're building it. But we'll talk to Marlon Humphrey soon.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I want to go here.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
They love to do a good list on this show.
They travel well online, so they came up with j MAC.
We need a six pack of teams that can win
the Super Bowl, and there's a couple obvious ones we'll
get to. I could only find two in the AFC
and four in the NFC. So here's my six teams
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as of right now, early July twenty twenty five, who
can win the twenty twenty six Super Bowl. Let's start
with the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
They had a terrible year last year, but it was
due to injury. Now they get Brandon and Ayuk should
be back, although I'm seeing one report he may not
start Week one. We'll see, but you should be a
factor when he returns. Obviously, the young fellow they drafted
last year, that Christian McCaffrey, comes back.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Trent William still breathing. I think this is going to
be a great team.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
The schedule is the great determinant, with the Niners easiest
by far in the league. They only face three playoff
teams from last year. They don't face any of the
top five quarterbacks in the league. Folks, the Niners are
a Super Bowl contender. I would say a minimum of
twelve or thirteen wins next up.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
My pick to win the Super Bowl next year the
Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
They've been knocking on the door for a few years.
Josh Allen obviously tremendous.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
They came up a.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Little short in the playoff game in Kansas City. We
will not relitigate the terrible officiating in that one. Obviously
Buffalo had some self inflicted wounds. Trying to pull off
the tush push, brotherly show, whatever you want to call it,
repeatedly and it failed.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
The Bill did add Joey Bosa.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Not a bad pickup Josh Palmer from the Chargers Tredavius White.
Not sure what he can give you as like a
Nicol dime quarterback. But they also have a very favorable
schedule and they've won the last five AFCAST titles. Wow,
it did not realize that it's been a while for
my Jets, the third team, I think they win the
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Super Bowl next year. A bit of a dart throw
here Washington Commanders, so instantly I get pushed back. Well,
the Texans had a good first year with CJ. Stroud,
then they fell back a.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Little, still made the playoffs. I thought.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Washington adding Laramie Tunzel and Deebo Samuel was just a
stroke of genius. I think is a really good team.
I think they'll push the Eagles in the NFC East.
They're vastly superior to the Cowboys and Giants, and you
just you look at the continuity, kept their head coach,
kept both coordinators. Terry McLaurin told out should be done
here shortly, folks. I know they got slaughtered by the
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Eagles in the NFC Championship game. They will be much
better if that win over Detroit in the playoffs. I mean,
did Jayden Daniels making the leap in year two? I'm
bullish on Washington. I think they could win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Team number four, Yes, you got to go for the
Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
They are favored to repeat. I do think it'll be
a challenge. I would not bet them to repeat. Offensive
line is formidable. Saquon Barkley coming off a heavy usage
year scares me a little bit. You know, I have
Jalen Hurts as the fifth best quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
They did lose their defensive coordinator.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
They lost Makai Becked and Josh Swtt, Brandon Graham, Darius Lay, CJ.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Gardner, Johnson. That's like six starters gone.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
But the Eagles are gonna certainly be an eleven win
team and there's just too much talent not to be
in the Super Bowl discussion. Next up, yes, sirree, the
La Rams. They are really the Arrows. Super duper pointing
upward for them. They had the best off season according
to one report.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
You know they grade the moves.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
One report had the Rams having the best off season.
Adding DeVante Adams certainly helps. They lose Cooper Cup, but
DeVante Adams and Pooka that is pretty impressive. And they're
drafts the last couple of years. Between Pooka Jared vers Fisk,
they've just hit.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Home run after home run. Is a really really good team.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
If the offensive line holds up, they should make the
NFC Championship.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Finally, my final team of the six.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Pack, they could win the Super And it's not just
because he's coming up as a guest here, but Baltimore
Ravens number one secondary in the NFL. Obviously, the Lamar
Jackson a Derreck Henry combination is just filthy.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
You have to love adding.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
JayR Alexander as like a dime cornerback. They got him
on the cheap Malachi Starks should form the best safety
duo in the league. I know he's only a rookie,
but he and Hamilton should be really formidable on the
back end. If the wide receivers can stay healthy. I mean, listen,
if Mark Andrews doesn't drop a two point conversion. I
don't know the Ravens any Super Bowl? Do they beat
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the Chiefs on the road? Is a really, really good team?
The Ravens will certainly be there. Ken Lamar deliver in January,
that's the big question. So those are my six teams
that can win the Super Bowl. The Jmax six pack.
They love this photo and look at the.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Jets on a dinghy?
Speaker 7 (21:52):
Is that what that is? A dingy?
Speaker 6 (21:54):
An inner tube, entertaine safety tube or whatever. Someone goes overboard,
you toss it to him, basically over We're a good
fifteen years now.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
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Speaker 4 (22:13):
All right, let's get to our guest, Marlon Humphrey joining
the Herd, the all pro quarterback from the Baltimore Ravens
at college football legend what's up, man?
Speaker 5 (22:22):
How you doing?
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Not that much? Feeling good?
Speaker 10 (22:26):
And joined the last couple of days before I got
to start the real world.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
So I'm feeling good.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yeah, let me ask you. What was the summer like?
I mean you you've been on a hiatus. Did you
go travel the world? Was you just grinding on football?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
What was going on?
Speaker 7 (22:41):
A lot of golf? A lot of uh, A lot
of leslie nights.
Speaker 10 (22:46):
I just had a well, not just ad but got
a six month old now, so it's been a different offseason.
Definitely not my norm. But I just got into golf.
So golf's been greats football training and then a lot
of family time. But we just got had a family vacation,
so it's really good. But it's been great. Life has
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been really good.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Real quick on the golf. I find golf a little slow,
you know. I like to up more up post stuff.
How do you handle that transition? Football fast and powerful
and golf is just like taking it easy?
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (23:22):
I became a member of the country club that doesn't
have a crazy ton amount of members, so people are
going too slow. I just leave that hole, go to
skip around a lot of different holes.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
So I've made it kind of as.
Speaker 10 (23:36):
I don't know if I'm allowed to do that, so honestly,
I might be telling on myself. But I've made it
a little bit faster. But that is sometimes the bad
thing of golf.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
It takes.
Speaker 10 (23:45):
It can take some time do some slower players, and
I feel like, if you're not you're gonna be a
slower player. You at least got to be good. And
most people that are slow are not good. So that
needs to be a new rule for sure.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I hope your wife likes it when you say, hey,
i'll be back in five hours, I'm going to play golf.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
My wife doesn't.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Anyways. Let's get to the NFL aspect.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
So Pro Football Focus recently ranked the secondaries of the league,
and you guys are number one.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
A is at a surprise, be obvious.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
And see, you know a lot of defenses these days,
Marlon are building. Hey, you just need edge rushers, let's
start there. Cornerback is secondary safety, and linebacker forget it.
But you guys are kind of built different from the
back end.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Yeah, I think for me.
Speaker 10 (24:27):
Honestly, we were thirty second last year, I believe, last
in the league. So rush of the ranked number one
does not really mean anything to me.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
I just would love to not be last. I would
love to be number one.
Speaker 10 (24:40):
That would be amazing, But I'm really focused on what
we just did last year. We got essentially most of
the same guys returning, so I would love to finish
number one.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
That'd be great.
Speaker 10 (24:51):
But I do know right now, the only thing on
my mind is we were the thirty second ranked and
that was That's that's not cool, and that's not very good.
So I'm trying to fix that before we even think
about being number one.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Toughest quarterback you faced last season, all the.
Speaker 10 (25:12):
Toughest quarterback I faced last season would probably I.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Mean, he faced a lot of good ones.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
That's a.
Speaker 10 (25:22):
Oh Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow, I don't even know, Yeah,
Joe Burrow a surprising second, even though we ended up
winning that game. But I felt we caught them on
the earlier end. Jaden Daniels what we caught them pretty
early on. But I just remember, I'm like man for
his got to be a rookie. He was just so poised,
so smooth, seemed like he never was really fazed, honestly,
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so I think from a young young talent perspective, he's
I mean, he already is a is a star, but
he was He's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Interesting, So no mention of Josh Allen there. I don't
know Buffalo fans are going to take that as a
slight or.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Did you you know it was Josh Allen easier.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
To prep for.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
No.
Speaker 10 (26:05):
I think they their game well going up their playoff
game plan.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
It just was a pretty it was a playoff.
Speaker 10 (26:11):
Game plan, I felt, and they didn't really have him
do anything crazy that they didn't need to do. They
were I thought their game plan was really good against us,
and they just kind of kept us on our heels
and we just couldn't really we currently make good plays
we needed to make.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
I think you see more.
Speaker 10 (26:28):
I feel like you see a little bit more from
a quarterback in a bad way of when they score
a lot of points on you and either you're ahead
and they're trying to come back, and the quarterbacks really
got to just full blown carry the team. But Josh
Allen Bafar managed the game that playoff game and just
a great way. And obviously they beat us, and you know,
we played Jalen Hurts, but that was another to me,
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a simple, simpler game plan, and so there was a
lot of good quarterbacks, but the ones that seemed like,
you know, this guy's pretty good obviously Joe Burrow and
they jaded.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, let me quickly. You mentioned playoffs, so.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
I'll ask about it. Listen.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
You guys have had some tough endings to the season, obviously,
you know, the loss in Buffalo was just brutal.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I'm just curious, what's the mood.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Like after that, because every season you guys go and
thinking we got a shot at the super Bowl and
then to come up short again.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
I don't know what was a vibe like do you
remember that day? Pretty close?
Speaker 10 (27:26):
It's it's not the best I think it was a
lot of uncertainty. I felt for myself for some of
the other guys. Ton't know if you'd they'd be around
the next year, including myself, And so there's a lot
of uncertainty. Obviously, you know, teams change every single year.
Felt that you had a really good roster at the time,
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So yeah, it was just a lot of uncertainty. It
was a lot of you know, kind of what happened,
you know, what did we do wrong here?
Speaker 7 (27:56):
But it was definitely.
Speaker 10 (27:58):
You know, obviously every year if you don't win the
Super Bowl, it's you didn't get the objective. But over
my past eight years, it was definitely a definitely a
different feeling of just it was just different, you know.
I don't know if it was because we felt we
had a good team or what, But if I had
to put into words, it would be just a lot
of uncertainty.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I don't know if Lamar is a golfing partner, but
I'm sure you get this a lot. Hey man, when
is Lamar gonna carry you guys one day in January?
And I know it win as a team, loses a team,
but he has had some playoff games where he hasn't
been MVP caliber. What do you say to people when
they when they ask you about or maybe nobody asked
you about this.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I don't know, especially I.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
Don't get access too often. I think, I, you know,
I have the player.
Speaker 10 (28:44):
I don't really see it as a just quarterback only
type stat I know that's kind of how it is.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
It's all about, you know, the quarterback.
Speaker 10 (28:52):
But I just want to focus on, you know, how
can we help, how can we play better? How can
we win the game on defense? There's been a lot
of past Baltimore Ravens defenses that have you know, led teams.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
All I know is that the biggest status. You know,
we haven't really had.
Speaker 10 (29:07):
I think we've had one ton over and all of
Lamar's playoff games.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
So I know it's all about the quarterback.
Speaker 10 (29:12):
But you know, when you look at the numbers, you
look at the stats, you look at the reality, the
Baltimore Areas defense hasn't really helped out at all or
even done their part to.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
Win some of these playoff games.
Speaker 10 (29:22):
And that's kind of the biggest focus on us in
the defensive room this offseason, and that'll be the focus
in training camp, practice and it'll translate to games.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
A little inside football. But the JayR Alexander addition, does
this change anything for you? Do you prefer playing on
the inside outside? Does it matter or or because the
secondary is pretty stacked right now.
Speaker 10 (29:42):
Yeah, yeah, it didn't matter to me. I was super
excited to add him to the to the squad. I
actually tried to hit him up on Instagram, but he
deleted his Instagram, so I was like scrambling get his number,
and then by the time I even could get it,
I see him in the building and so I'm like,
all right sweet, and I talked to him, and I'm
(30:03):
just super excited. We got a lot of great players
in our second aar of this year. I think the
way we want to play, who plays where matchups, we
put all our best guys in the field.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
Yeah, I'm just super excited it.
Speaker 10 (30:16):
I think you just can't go wrong adding a guy
like that, And so I'm really excited for this year
secondary and excited us to just make.
Speaker 7 (30:23):
A lot of plays and hopefully he'll he'll help.
Speaker 10 (30:25):
Like I said, with getting those turnovers in the playoffs.
You've done it before and I look for him doing
it again.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Let me quickly ask you.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
I noticed you played in twenty fifteen at Alabama on
a loaded team with Derrick Henry. Is that the most
dominant team you've ever been on or was there a
Ravens team you felt that was more.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Dominant, Because you guys, I'm looking at the.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Results twenty fifteen, you guys just eviscerated almost everybody.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
We Yeah, it would be it would be hard.
Speaker 10 (30:54):
I have been on the number one defense in the NFL,
but that that that Alabama team was just next level.
I think everyone on the starters ended up getting drafted
into the NFL. You're freaking giving it ball with Derek
Henry forty times the game.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
Nobody could stop it. So there was there was, it was.
Speaker 10 (31:14):
It was honestly pretty crazy to look back on that team,
and you know, obviously the next year we end up
losing a Clemson, but it would have been great to repeat.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
But that that that's the fifteen team.
Speaker 10 (31:24):
It was just it was just loaded and I don't
I don't know if there were that domination is can
only be done really at the college level.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
But that was. That was a great year.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Yeah, all right, we could wrap up. You got a movie,
Nothing but a Winner. It's a documentary, tell us about
it being part of the process.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
What's that been like and any comparisons to football.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
Yeah, so it was great.
Speaker 10 (31:47):
I executive produced Nothing but a Winner, me and my sister,
she's the actress in LA. It was a great opportunity
that got presented to me and I was able to
be a part of it, kind of have inputs here
and there and different things. Basically just about you know
the history of two great coaches at happened to be
at the Universe Alabama. Some of the wins, some of
(32:08):
the you know, ugly losses, the kick six for Harvard
fans out there.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
Tune intc they had and you know kind.
Speaker 10 (32:15):
Of how Bama came up part to be, you know,
with segregation and different things first, you know, athlete African
American athlete at the university, So a lot of different
things going on with it.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
But it's just just basically a.
Speaker 10 (32:30):
Documentary about just greatness, how it form, the process of it,
all the great things that kind of is in the
rich history of Alabama football and just winning coaches. That's
the biggest thing is you can take away with your
Alabama fan, not Alabama fan. It's just really a documentary
about just something great and it'll be out soon and
it'll be it'll be really good.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Yeah, it sounds like July thirty first in theaters.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Congrats on that. I'm curious.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
A lot of people look to set themselves up for
a post career. You just turned twenty nine, so you
got a ways to go. But is Hollywood where you want.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
To go next?
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Or you know a lot of guys transition to the media,
or you could you know, do what Cam Newton's doing
and just start a podcast and trying to go rebel
rouse that way, What do you think a post career.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
I've had a lot of different thoughts.
Speaker 10 (33:17):
Media was one, you know, Hollywood would be would be
awesome if I if I chose that route. There's you
know that that's something I kind of think about. You know,
obviously you do football for a long time and you're
you kind of figure out what do you want to
do after There's so.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Many different ways you can go.
Speaker 10 (33:33):
But I would love to, you know, I always wanted
to direct a movie. I always wanted to play in
a movie. So I've always wanted to do something around
that space. Maybe not full time. But the cool thing
about all that is that's something you can do and
do something else. But media, Hollywood, all those things are
kind of things that interest me. And just we'll just
have to see when what happens when I when I
(33:54):
retire with the wife says, you know, she'll so I
always have a big part in that. I wish I
could be a prob. If I could do that, I
would that would be the biggest one. But think I
missed too many reps when I was six, seven, eight
years old.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
You can't get back, and so.
Speaker 10 (34:09):
The best I could do now was maybe break eighty
one day of my life, and I'll consider that must
super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Hey, let me ask one more things. I just was
watching those highlights and I thought about something. So, Travis
Hunter is coming into the league as an elite cornerback
and wants to play both ways. I'm assuming in high
school you were playing both ways and dominating. But Marlin,
my big thing.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
The second he.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Said this, I was like, Okay, so you.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Got to play the Ravens, So you got to go
tackle Derreck, Henry and Space, then go to the sideline
and come back on and run a bunch of pass pack.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
That's impossible. How on earth is he going to be
able to do this? And I'm just curious your thoughts
on did you play two ways in high school?
Speaker 7 (34:44):
And? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Is this mission impossible for Travis Hunter?
Speaker 7 (34:48):
I think, you know, he is very talented. I think
he's me watching.
Speaker 10 (34:54):
I think he's a really really elite dB based off
the you know, a couple of games I saw this
past year.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
But to do both it seems very mission impossible esque.
You know.
Speaker 10 (35:04):
I think Dion obviously did a little bit of it,
you know, back in his day, but I just think
the game has changed so much since then. Dion was
clearly light and day the fastest guy out there. Nowadays,
everybody's fast, you know. I think of Jason Kelsey, that
dude's running up on you just as fastest as that
receiver tight end. So I think he's really got a
(35:28):
tough challenge ahead. I think eventually he will realize, Man,
it's really really hard to do this at a high
level where every week you're.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Playing a top NFL team.
Speaker 10 (35:38):
It's not like college where you know, there is teams
on everyone's roster where it's like this should be a
pretty easy game, and that's just not the case in
the NFL. And I think he'll I hope he has
success with it, and I hope he just decides it's
just too much for me as opposed to you know,
he kind of struggles with it. But I I think
(36:00):
he has the ability to do it, but I more
just think the stamina to do it.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
I don't know if anyone has that to do it
for season.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
You played with Dereck Henry in college. Now he's your teammate.
Have you I'm just curious, have you ever tackled him?
Speaker 3 (36:11):
What? What the hell is that?
Speaker 7 (36:12):
Like, the problem is he's so tall.
Speaker 10 (36:16):
A lot of times you go low, he his knee
will actually hits your head, and it's it's a lot.
Speaker 7 (36:23):
He's this stuff, got to tackle.
Speaker 10 (36:25):
He's somehow, I don't know how, he gets stronger and
faster in the fourth quarter while everyone else seems to
be fatiguing, And I think that gives him a lot
of his advantage. But his exception speed. He's so tall,
he's getting on the edge faster than what you think.
And if you if you don't go now, it's it's bad.
And his stiff armed will throw you around. But it's rough.
It's something at the corner you think, I shouldn't be
(36:48):
doing this. I don't want to do this. The linebacker
Delan should be doing this. But when you do, gotta
do it, you gotta. You gotta run your feet trying
to close your eyes and try to get him down.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Yeah, good stuff, Marlon Humphrey, check out is moving nothing
but a winner. End of this month in theater's congrats
on everything man, and good luck this year.
Speaker 7 (37:03):
Yes, yes, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
All right, Marlon Humphrey, who's a budding golfer who.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Knew I had no idea, but I hope Travis Houhner
was listening.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Did you.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
I mean, did you hear did you see the reaction?
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Alex?
Speaker 3 (37:14):
He almost start of laughing. He's like, yeah, that's mischiev
It's hard. I mean again, like.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
You, you never wanted to ter someone from reaching a
crazy goal that we've never seen before.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
I mean, people left to show.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
Hey Otani when he said he was going to be
a power hitter and an ace pitcher. Obviously it's way
different on your body baseball compared to football.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
But again, don't knock it until until you try it.
Speaker 6 (37:36):
I think that's kind of most players reactions are going
to be what Marlin's reaction was. But again he's very impressed.
Producer Golfer like like that was a good interview
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah, Jarland Humphrey fun
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