July 28, 2025 • 48 mins
Danny Parkins fills in for Colin
Is LeBron James trying to push his way to Denver?
Jerry Jones will pay Micah Parsons...eventually
Josh Allen is one of the best QBs in the NFL, but how bad does he need to win a Super Bowl?
Danny list his top 10 NFL QBs
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowver
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
All right, welcome in. Let's do this. It is The
Herd No Colin Cowherd.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I am Danny Parkins from FS one's First Things First,
soon to be expanded. First Things First, it's a thrill
to be out here in Los Angeles and for the
legend that is Colin Cowherd.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
We've got a great show for you today on this Monday,
my guy Cole Kamt from the Bears.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
We'll join us in about thirty minutes to explain why
everyone is completely correct. It's a panic about every interception
around Caleb Williams. Do I think Cole might have a
different take on that? Bruce Feldman the show, my new
teammate at First Things First, Chris Brussard later on the
Bear Tons of Football. Because we made it. There's a
football game this week, kind of in the Hall of
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Fame game. But we've got a lot of NFL to
get to over the course of today's show. But somehow, someway,
even though it is game week in the NFL, Lebron
James still finds himself in the center of the news.
Because I did not expect to land in Los Angeles
to an Instagram post from a guy I had never
(01:33):
heard of, who was Nikola Jokicic's agent on a yacht
in France with Lebron James and Maverick Carter. I was like, oh, okay,
Lebron World's traveler. Who who among us hasn't been on
a yacht in the south of France with the greatest
offensive player in twenty years as agent?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Right?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I mean, it's a thing that could happen to anybody,
And I'm like, all right, that's nice. They bumped into
each other while vacationing having some fine wine, and then
you read the caption on Nikola Jokich's agent's Instagram post.
The summer of twenty twenty five is the perfect time
to make big plans for the fall of twenty twenty six.
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Summer of twenty twenty five, that's now perfect time to
make big plans for the fall of twenty twenty six. Yeah,
that's gonna have some reverberations around the NBA because everybody
seems to be convinced because the Lakers invited Luca to
dinner and didn't invite him because they are not willing
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to trade the last first round pick that they control
to go out and make a bigger move for this
offseason to try to be all in quote unquote to
win now with Lebron, that Lebron is somehow unhappy with
the Lakers, and Lebron, by the way, has done some
things to fan fuel to that flames. Because I like
to say about Lebron, we're similar in age. We're elder millennials.
(03:05):
We grew up with the Internet. We understand what it's say. Oh,
I'm gonna unfollow my employer, I'm gonna tweak this thing,
I'm gonna patrol a little bit. Lebron in his camp
is very good at controlling the message and nothing that
they do is without intent, and he drives the twenty
(03:26):
four to seven sports talk industrial complex more than any
modern athlete, arguably more than any athlete ever so he's vacationing,
he's on a yacht. This guy puts out a post
and now it becomes a story. But I don't think
Lebron is leaving LA and it is for no better
reason than say it out loud, Lebron James Denver nugget.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I just don't believe it. I have a very hard
time believing.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
The guy who is now on his third franchise, who
has delivered LA at Championship, who just got Kukadancich as
a teammate, who they drafted his son, He's building his
forever home out here, he has all of his business
ventures out here. I have a hard time believe believing.
On that yacht they were talking about Lebron James going
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to Denver, and for the life of me, I have
struggled with understanding why we talk about Jokic and his
future in Denver so different than we talk about Giannis
and his future in Milwaukee. Again, this was Joker's agent
talking about big plans for next summer. Well, Yokic is
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under contract for this year, and he's under contract for
next year, but then he's got a player option the
year after that. And it's not that long ago when
Josh Kronk, the owner of the Nuggets, for some unknown reason,
floated the idea of trading Joker. You remember, for us
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as an organization, going into that second aprin is not
necessarily something that we're scared of. I think that there
are rules around it that we needed to be very
careful of with our injury history. The wrong person gets
injured and very quickly you're into scenario where that I
never want to have to contemplate. And at the trading
number fifteen odd choice, I think we could all agree
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to unprompted bring up trading Nikola jokicch But Yannis can't
do anything without one hundred headlines and hot take people
being like Gianis has to leave Milwaukee. When Giannis was
an international pick to a small market team who's won
an MVP and delivered a championship and has signed multiple
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extensions to stay with the team that drafted him. Nikola
Jokich has won multiple MVPs, has one championship, was a
late round, second round pick international player drafted by a
small market team. There are way more similarities to Jannis
and Jokic, but no one ever talks about Jokic being
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unhappy in Denver. What if Jokic's agent is making big
plans for next year when for all intents and purposes,
it is an expiring contract for Yokic, Because the year
after is a player option for Jokic to leave Denver
to go to Los Angeles to play with his longtime
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friend Luka Doncic, that feels to me way more likely
what the big plans could be than Lebron James being
a Denver nugget for one year. I have no idea
how many more years Lebron James is playing. We say
Father Time is undefeated. Lebron James is trying to shatter
expectations on that cliche, but to say it out loud.
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Test tells me it is more likely that they're just trolling. Frankly,
but that if I had to say Jokic in LA
and they figure out a way to make that work,
or le Ron just straight signs in Denver for a year,
which granted is simpler given Lebron is not under contract
beyond this year as we all know, I'll still take
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the more difficult path and believe that it's much more
likely that Lebron is figuring out a way to team
up with Jokic, pair him with Luca, make one more
run at a championship two years from now, and then
sail off into the Sunsets, leaving the Lakers set up
to be successful after him and having that be a
part of his Lakers' legacy. I won you the title
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in the bubble, maybe I won you a second title,
and oh yeah, by the way, I set you up
to have the best duo in the NBA going forward
with Luca and the Joker. So we don't know where
jokicch or Lebron's going. I got a pretty good idea
how this next story is going to end, but it
still doesn't change any of the drama. Micah Parsons is
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going to stay in Dallas. But it's lovely to see
that there's thirty one teams in the NFL and then
there's just a television producer.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Because as a content guy who loves.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
The NFL year round, I feel like all of us,
everyone who sits behind a microphone, should have to write
a handwritten thank you letter to Jerry Jones and the
Dallas Cowboys, because love them or hate them, we all
have an opinion of how they do business and why
they are just still so relevant and compelling despite it
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being thirty years without a championship, and so over the weekend,
Micah Parsons, who doesn't have a contract, apparently has a
little back tightness, but is there at training camp just
not really participating. Jerry Jones because for some reason, the
owner of the team needs to face the fans at
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training camp with a bunch of cheerleaders behind him, had
to come out and say whatever he was saying about
the new and improved team, and he was greeted with
chance of pay Micah, Pay Micah, and then he talked
to the afterwards and he was like, ah, well the
chance for paying CD were loud er last year, and
you know, we paid Mike, we paid Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
And then he got hurt.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
He can't help himself because this is what he does.
And Dak Prescott last year said, you know, I just
kind of stopped listening to Jerry, which is a bold
thing for a quarterback to say about the guy who
signs his check.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
But that was last year.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Cede Lamb just last week, when talking about Micah Parsons
and these contract negotiations that are playing out as publicly
as any contract negotiations in the NFL. He was like, yeah,
we just don't play in those waters with the media
and Jerry Jones.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Obviously, playing his media game with Jerry is not the best,
is not fun, is not recommended. But as for Micah,
he knows what he brings to this table, honestly, for
this team, for himself, and he should get what he deserved.
And I'm not indulging any of the craziness that they
got going, but I do want Michael to get paid soon, and.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
He will get paid. We all know how this ends.
This is just noise. Last year, Nick Bosa got paid
and then Max Crosby got paid, and for a moment
in time, oh my god, Miles Garrett was going to
be traded from the Cleveland Browns. He wrote a nice
letter and everything, and then Miles Garrett became the highest
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paid non quarterback in football and he wants to be
a Brown for life and for a while. I mean,
I'm old enough to remember three weeks ago when TJ.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Watt was really unhappy with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Oh man, they were far apart, they weren't going to
get it done. And then whila, it's amazing with forty
one million dollars per year. To rush the quarterback and
lose Wild Card weekend can do to a guy's mood, and.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
All of a sudden, TJ.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Watt back with the Steelers, thrilled, Micah Parsons will be
a Dallas Cowboy. He will get another contract. He will
top TJ. Watts forty one million per year. My guess
is by a decent amount actually, just given the age difference.
I don't think it's going to be forty one point
two or forty two. He'll probably try to get to
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forty four to forty five million a year, put some
distance between him and the other pass rushers. And I'm
sure that's the sticking point in the negotiations right now.
But I think would be called a media literacy test here.
I think we would all be served to actually pay
attention to Jerry Jones. And I know it's a bolt strategy,
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and Ceedee Lamb and Dak Prescott have said they're trying
to do different things, but I.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Don't play quarterback for the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Jerry Jones saw how this country was enamored with the
Last Dance, and he said, I gotta get me one
of those and he struck a deal with Netflix to
produce a multi part story of the Cowboys, and it's
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coming soon, and we'll see what America's appetite is for
a long form documentary on America's team will be as
popular as the Last Dance because we're not in the
middle of a pandemic. But they were popular in the nineties.
The Bulls were popular in the nineties. I'm sure it
will do quite well. But when the trailer came out,
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there was a little snippet from Jerry Jones that I
actually was like, ah, there it is, thank you. This
is a soap opera three hundred and sixty five days
a year.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
That is his business model.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
That is why they're not in the biggest market, but
they're the most valuable franchise.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
They don't have the.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Most wins or the most Super Bowls, but they're the
most valuable, most talked about franchise. He believes, and frankly
has been proven right that the soap opera is what sells.
He's the owner, but he's also the general manager. But
they absolutely have a general manager in Will maclay. Like
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nobody believes that Jerry Jones is scouring Senior boll tape,
but he wants to call himself the general manager. No
owner in the NFL calls into local radio every week.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
No other owner in the.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
NFL does a postgame press conference every week. They played
it out with Dak Prescott, they played it out with
Ceedee Lamb, They played it out with Michah Parsons.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
What does that do? Back in the day, we would
say it filled column inches?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Now it fills airtime because then Micah Parsons has a
podcast and he weighs in, Ceedee Lamb gets asked about it.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
That makes a news cycle story.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
The fans chant something at him, that's a news cycle story,
and on and on and on. Jerry Jones is competitive.
Jerry Jones wants to win. He just also wants to
be the most talked about. You don't hear the Roonies
or the Maras, or the mccaskey's or anyone else doing
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it the way that Jerry Jones does. But Jerry Jones's
team is worth more money, so he probably looks at
it like this might cost me a few million bucks,
and that thanks for a Cowboys fan who wants to
maximize the salary cap. But he's like the column inches
and the airtime more than makes up for it because
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people are talking about the Dallas Cowboys. It's a soap opera.
Three hundred and sixty five days a year. Those are
his words, not mine again. Thirty one teams and a
television producer, and it's been the highest rated TV show
in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
For the last thirty years.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Coming up next on The Herd, the guy who has
the most to gain, I would say, by far if
he won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
He got philosophical over the.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Weekend and I absolutely loved it.
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Speaker 4 (16:03):
Of this week, Cole Comet will join me from Bears
training camp in just under ten minutes or so. We'll
talk Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams, and if the Bears will
finally have a good offense for basically the first time
in my entire life as someone who was born in
Chicago in nineteen eighty six, but every year around this time,
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it's who's gonna be the breakout candidate, what's the team
that's gonna surprise, who's going to disappoint, who's under the
most pressure, who's on the hot seat.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
And there's it's totally open ended.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
There's a bunch of different ways you can go with
any of that stuff, right, I think, for who needs
the Super Bowl win the most, whose legacy reputation would
benefit from one the most, there's a pretty obvious answer here,
and it is Josh Allen, and Josh Allen to me,
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he's a guy I root for. I've never met him,
I've never spoke to him. I have absolutely no connection
to the Buffalo Bills organization in any way. But Patrick Ewing,
Charles Barkley, all time greats who played during the Michael
Jordan era.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Like man that must have been tough. That's what it
feels like.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Josh Allen is in the Patrick Mahomes era because we
saw this not that long ago. Right, it was Brady
and Manning, but there was also Ben Roethlisberger and Philip
Rivers in the AFC.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
It was just a dominant thing.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
And Ben Roethlisberger got his Philip Rivers never did, and
it'll probably keep Philip Rivers out of Canton, even though
he's sixth all time in yards and touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Josh Allen is the second best player in football.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Lamar Jackson made that an interesting conversation last year when
he had over forty passing touchdowns and under five interceptions
going to full Rogers. But for a real body of work,
it has been Josh Allen. And obviously Josh got his
MVP last year, but if you look at the sample
of five years his prime, basically like since Josh Allen
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became Josh Allen. If it wasn't for Patrick Mahomes, it
would be universally agreed upon that this guy was the
best player in football. Because it is universally agreed upon
that Patrick Mahomes is the best player in football, and
the only thing that Josh Allen can't do is be
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better than Patrick Mahomes. He's second in wins, he's second
in passing yards, and he's second in passing touchdowns. Over
the last five years, with Mahomes being first, first, and
first across the board, that has got to be a
maddening existence.
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Speaker 8 (18:58):
Lot to me, and I really appreciate him sharing those words.
But yeah, it's kind of crazy. Were you just kind
of coming out here and you're doing everything that you
can for a quick enjoyment of it, and then you're
on to the next and it's again, it's like the
MVP Awards, Like I don't look back and think about
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that night like it happened.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
It was over with, and I'll never think about it again.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
To be honest, there is something that's sad about that,
but any high performer would understand. It's the journey, it's
the process, it's what you go through to get there,
because that's what actually takes the time. And then when
you sank the final potter, you hoist the Lombardi Trophy.
At some point that night ends and you just go back.
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I think it makes a ton of sense what Scheffler
said that it would relate with Josh Allen. But if
Josh Allen were to win, like, let's just play out
the hypothetical. Let's say Josh Allen plays the Chiefs in
the playoffs again and this time he beats them and
the Bills, who are a slightly better favorite in the
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AFC than the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
That's mostly because they play in the AFC East.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
But still, Let's say the Bills won that Super Bowl
and Josh Allen had his Super Bowl moments, the Super
Bowl MVP, all of a sudden, he's like, all right,
I've got an MVP, I've got a Super Bowl, I've
got a Super Bowl MVP, and I beat Mahomes on
the way there.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
He would still be a distant second to Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Obviously, multiple MVPs, the three rings, the multiple appearances. Obviously,
there's nothing that could happen this year that could have
Josh Allen passing Patrick Mahomes. But at least the Manning
Brady rivalry could potentially start to creep back into existence
because Brady has the way better trophy case. But Peyton
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Manning was looked at as a worthy adversary, an all
time great, a first ballot Hall of Famer, truly worthy
number two to Brady's number one. He got to the
four Super Bowls, he won a couple of them. They
had epic regular season battles. They both were able to
beat each other in the postseason the regular season.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
The same thing.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Now it's Josh has beaten Patrick in the regular season
but never in the postseason, and Mahomes has all of
the hardware. When Josh Allen has to look around and
he's like, I'm just as good as this guy. He
has to believe that, even if you and I don't,
because if he is that close to him statistically over
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a huge sample size for that long and he's beaten
him in the regular season, I have no reason to
believe that he doesn't believe that he can get there.
And quick aside, I'm glad that Scotti Scheffler is having
his moment here. After the open takes the Claret jug
and he goes to the Happy Gilmore two premiere, and
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now Happy Gilmore two is out. You all need to
relax a little bit. Alreadys to relax with the hot takes.
I'm Happy Gilmore too. The movie's fine. You go in
with low expectations and then it clears them. It was nostalgic.
There were cameos. I won't give anything away, but Scheffler's
was hilarious. Will's alatorus was hilarious. John Daly's was funny.
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You know what you're getting going into an Adam Sandler movie.
He's a volume shooter. Can he give you uncut gems
and punch drum glove? Yeah, but he also wants to
put his family and friends in movies and have a
good time at hangout and do some ridiculousness and do
some dumb stuff and.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Do some callbacks. It was a movie. It was fine.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
I'll ever watch it again. But this was the best
thing ever. Was the worst thing ever. No, it was
an Adam Sandler movie in twenty twenty five that hundreds
of millions of people somehow will somehow watch it based
on the Netflix algorithm, and we'll all keep going on
with our lives. And you can't recreate the stuff of
the classic from the nineties, but we grew up.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
That's kind of how it works.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
So I'm glad Scotti Scheffler had his moment though, because
he's seen as this like robotic golfer and then he
was hilarious in the movie.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
But Josh Allen having the ability to come to grips with.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Being second and having that emotional maturity to understand.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
I'm doing everything I can. I have been great. I
have been great.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
In the regular season I have been great in the postseason,
and no one looks around very good offensive line. They
transitioned and gave him a more balanced attack with Cook,
They've changed offensive coordinators. They have figured out a way
to consistently be great with a great quarterback, not with
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a super team now with all pros everywhere, just on
the talent and the development and the leadership of that
guy of Josh Allen, they have figured out a way
to put themselves in a position to every single year
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be competing for a shot at a Lombardi Trophy. There
is no doubt in my mind that Josh Allen is
going to win at some point. He's just got to
slay that dragon. And then when he does, I would
say the rivalry is on. So I hope we get
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Bill's Chiefs again in the playoffs. And even though I
covered the Chiefs for years and lived in Kansas City,
if Josh Allen got his, I'd feel like he's earned
it because he's been the second best of.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Mahomes for five years. At this point. Speaking of the Chiefs,
access is good, and we see stories.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
All the time now because we're on the internet and
we are addicted to football that we want any little
nugget or morsel of information. Anthony Richardson threw an interception.
He's going to never figure it out. Caleb Williams threw
an interception. Ben Johnson's innovation on offense isn't working. That
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is just how it works in the information age and
how addicted to football we are. And I'm not even
saying that there's nothing that you can take out of
reports from training camp. Hey, they put lines on these
preseason games. I'm not above gambling on the Hall of
Fame game. I think you can have impact on your
fantasy drafts. I'm not saying don't pay attention to it,
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but judging stats or results from practices.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Is insane. Almost none of it matters.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
But if you want a topic from training camp that
does matter, I would give you Josh Simmons being with
the ones for the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Already, Josh Simmons was supposed to be a top.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Fifteen pick out of Ohio State and he broke his
pateeller tendon and he fell to the Chiefs with a
thirty first pick in the draft.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
And anyone who remembers the chief season last year.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
It was a revolving door, right four different guys played
left tackle for the Chiefs, so much so that they
had to shift Joe Dooney they're all Pro guard from
left guard to left tackle, and now he's on the Bears.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
So it became a situation where then.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
The Eagles off, of course, dominated the Chiefs offensive line
among other things that they dominated in that Super Bowl,
and it brought flashbacks to when the Chiefs lost to
Tampa in the Super Bowl, when Mahomes' offensive line fell
apart last year. This was the worst offensive line of
the Mahomes era. He was hit one hundred and eighteen times.
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He was sacked forty one times, four different left tackles.
They lose their left guard to the Bears. The guy
they drafted Kingsley Sue or Sue matiaala excuse me, in
the second round two years ago. Now he's going to
be their left guard. But if Josh Simmons is what
Josh Simmons is supposed to be, a top fifteen pick
on a cheap contract who immediately comes in and plays
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left tackle, well, now, all of a sudden, you've got
an elite prospect on a cheap contract at left tackle.
Kingsley goes from left tackle to left guard second year
in the league. Creed Humphrey center, one of the best
centers in the NFL under a long term contract. Tray
Smith one of the best right guards in the NFL
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under a long term contract. And while Juwan Tayler frustrates
people because he gets a few too many penalties and
he does that like a little quick jump off where
it feels like he's getting a jump off the line
of scrimmage that a bunch of guys do.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Jewan Taylor is a fine right tackle.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
And then they signed more the backup from the Niners,
to a healthy contract. All of a sudden, the Chiefs
offensive line, if Simmons is legit goes from huge liability,
huge weakness to massive strength. And last season the Chiefs
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offense was just not impressive. It was not impressive in
terms of points scored, obviously, but the big one that
anyone could see if you watched the game was like,
where did the big plays go? And it wasn't just
like Tyreek Hill he's been gone for a few years.
Where And it's not did Mahomes forget how to throw
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the deep ball? No? Is it all just that the
opposing defensive coordinators are doing the cover two shell and
daring you to beat him underneath.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Yeah, that's some of it.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
They were last in the NFL in touchdowns that went
twenty plus yards. Whereshi Rice and Hollywood Brown and Xavier
Worthy played a grand total of zero snaps together last year.
Hollywood Brown is healthy. We'll see what discipline comes for
Rashi Rice off the field. Xavier Worthy had the great
Super Bowl. But those three guys are going to play
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together this year. And the offensive line should be better,
so that means the offense should be better. And those
are the types of training camp stories to me that matters.
New guy in new place, rookie making and adjustment, healthy
or not healthy. When a player throws an interception, well,
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did the coach before the rep tell him, you've got
to go to this route because we've got to work
on the timing. There was he playing against the ones
or the twos? What was going on on the offensive line?
We just don't we don't know. We don't know so
many of the details of what they were trying to
accomplish in a given play or a given drill, that
reporting on successes or failures or stats or any of
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that just feels like a fool's errand. But the Kansas
City Chiefs got a franchise caliber left tackle with a
thirty first pick in the draft who we didn't know
if he was going to be healthy for week one,
and he was healthy for day one of training camp.
So the guy they signed from the Niners is now
rotating on the right side of the offensive line stead
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of the left side of the offensive line.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Yeah, that's a story.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Chiefs offense catching up with the Chiefs defense, which has
carried them the last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
That's a story.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Because of Spagnola gets the defense to be what the
defense has been. The offense gets back to being what
the offense was. That's why the Chiefs aren't afraid of
the Broncos or the Chargers or the improved Raiders or
anyone else because last year, I mean two years ago,
they won the Super Bowl, leading the league in drops.
Last year, they had the least explosive offense in the NFL,
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had four different left tackles, and they won fifteen games
that made it to the Super Bowl. So you want
a training camp story that matters, Josh Simmons getting reps.
Already forget reps. He's your first string left tackle for
the Kansas City Chiefs. That is a training camp story
that matters. We had some tech issues with Cole Kamett.
We'll try to figure that out. But on the other side,
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there's a big lesson that Caleb Williams learned from last season,
and it's worth getting into.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Danny Parkins.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
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Speaker 4 (32:01):
Top ten quarterbacks in the NFL heading into the twenty
twenty five NFL season.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Number ten Jalen Hurts I said.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
It and I mean it.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
He's like, you gotta give it more credit for winning
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
I am.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
He was outside of my top ted last year. Like
spoiler alert, he's ahead of Dak Prescott. He wasn't this
time last season.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Jalen Hurts great leader, clutch, perfect for that team in
that system, but not asked to do nearly as much
for his team's success as the guys.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Nine through one on my list. Number nine the Bake Show.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Baker Mayfield is the poster child for patience. We'll see
what Bryce Young ends up being in Carolina. But Baker Mayfield, man,
they haven't figured it out in Carolina.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
They haven't figured it out in Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
This guy the last two seasons comfortably inside the top ten.
He's first in passing touchdowns, second in passing yards, fourth
in passer rating.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
And sixth in yards per attempt. Baker Mayfield all the respects.
Number eight.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Jared Goff, like Jalen Hurts, has a ton around him,
no doubt about it. But doing it with two different franchises,
with the Rams to a super Bowl and now the
Lions as perennial contenders year in and year out matters
and last year, I mean, career highs in points per game,
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thirty three completion percentage, passing, touchdowns, passer rating, yards per
attempt and oh yeah, by the way, wins Jared Goff's
stud and he's playing up to the billing of being
the number one, oh overall pick seven. It's the best
rookie season I've ever seen. Jaden Daniels is the guy
on this list who at the end that top four
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is just so ironclad. It's like Mount Rushmore. Hey, you
know we should do that as a sports radio hook
Mount Rushmore. Has anyone ever thought of that? But if
there was a guy outside of the top four who
could jump in. If Jadeen Daniels builds on a rookie
season with the third down efficiency, the fourth down efficiency,
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the winning the one score victories, if he takes that
Lamar Jackson Patrick Mahomes type of leap, he's in the
MVP conversation. He's in the top four conversation. Number six.
Matt Stafford's been that dude for well over a decade.
As soon as he leaves Detroit, he goes to the Rams.
He gets better coaching, he gets a little better talent
around him, he gets a better system, and he gets
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a ring in the playoffs. He's been a stud with McVeigh,
he's been a stud. And this one is still a
bit of the eye test. We'll see what the offensive
line is. The Rams this year left tackles already hurt.
They've got some questions kind of across the board with
Humphreys there, but at his age, he needs good protection.
But if he gets good protection, there's really no one
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in the world that's better at throwing the football.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Number five, except for.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Maybe my guy Justin Herbert who I think is very
Matt Stafford esque and still, by the way, on the
exact same career trajectory as Peyton Manning. Big year for
Herbert with Harball, with the running game, with arguably the
best tackle duo outside of Philadelphia in the NFL. Five
hundred plus pass attempts, three or fewer interceptions justin Herbert
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last year. Aaron Rodgers give him more weapons, which they
did in the draft. The passing game produces even more
justin Herbert, absolute stud the fifth best quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Number four.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
This one I struggle with, but I'm giving it to
Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson statistically last year, him and Aaron
Rodgers only quarterbacks with more than forty passing touchdowns and
fewer than five interceptions. He was brilliant, but he didn't
win the MVP to Josh Allen. Once you get into
the top four, I think we are dealing with parsing
greatness among the guys in the postseason. And Lamar still
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has a losing record in the postseason. But he's a
first ballot Hall of Famer. Give him a ring.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
He jumps up on the list. Number three. Joe Burrow,
I'm not going to knock him for his defense.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Joe Burrow had a losing record in games where his
team scored more than thirty points last year. It's an impossibility.
He has a middle of the row defense. He's the
MVP of the league. Last year, his passer rating and
losses was one to eight point two, second highest passer
rating and losses ever for a quarterback to lose eight
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or more games.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Joe Burrow third best quarterback in the league.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Number two.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I've said it before, I'll say it again. It's very clearly,
Josh Allen.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
If it wasn't for Patrick Mahomes, it would be universally
accepted that this guy was the best in the NFL.
He's second to Mahomes and wins. He's second to Mahomes
in passing yards. He's second to Mahomes in passing touchdowns.
In the last five seasons, this is your second best quarterback.
This is your second best player in football, which frankly
ruins the suspense for number one.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Number one.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Mahomes is still on that Brady track. Through eight seasons.
He's still there. Double digit win seasons, he's still on
the track the Super Bowls. He's still on the track.
The regular season wins, he's ahead of him. The playoff wins,
he's ahead of him. The conference titles, he's ahead of him.
Super Bowls, he's even to him. Guy's going to play
football for another ten plus years, and that Brady conversation
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is going to start really picking up. Give him that
explosive offense back with the Spagnolo's defense, He'll just add
more to his trophy case. There's your top ten quarterbacks
heading in to this season. What a perfect list. By
the way, I don't know though anyone could dispute anything
on there, except apparently Philly Fence.
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App Back In on the Herd of Danny Parkins in
for Colin Cowherd today, Tomorrow and Wednesday. Huge news in
the world of college football, in the world of sports,
because while Deon Sanders is a fixture in college football,
he's one of the most famous athletes alive and one
of the greatest athletes alive. Announcing that he had his
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bladder removed because of a cancerous tumor that was on
his bladder, that announcement coming just moments ago. So it's
a great time to welcome to the herd. Bruce Felman,
Fox Sports college football reporter and New York Times best
selling author, Bruce, thank you very much for the time.
Obviously good news that the surgery was successful, but your
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reaction to the Dion Sanders press conference with his whole
medical team there at colleg.
Speaker 9 (39:01):
Yeah, it's pretty jolting just to hear how serious this
was to have the bladder removed, to have it was
a cancerous tumor that was in there. They actually, according
to the doctors who were at the press conference, they
actually had the procedure done by robot. And when one
of the doctors was explaining kind of the process here
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when when Dion was diagnosed with it, it was like
he was told, with this kind of cancer, there's a
fifty percent chance of reoccurrence, and he wanted to explore
his other options, and so that became this to basically
have a new bladder built for him and have the
old one removed. I mean, it's crazy because in the
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course of this press conference, the doctor had said this
was his fourteenth surgery that he's had just in the
last four years, which is kind of mind blowing that
he's had that many procedures. I had seen him at
Big twelve media days earlier this month in Texas, and
he wasn't really back on the job at least in
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terms of back with his team, but talking to him
for a couple of minutes, you could tell that, you know,
something significant had happened. It wasn't like this was a
guy who was on vacation for a month or went
to Europe or anything. And even for the people I
know who are close to him, they you know, they
really kind of stressed something, you know, significant it happened.
And now to hear it, it's really eye opening.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
Yeah, and it's courageous to be public with anything like that.
So that'll make a huge difference both for those kids
in the program, but just anyone who follows sports and
here's that sort of thing. So again, congrats to Dion
for the positive medical news there and what apparently was
a successful surgery. Football is so secondary here, but they
kind of took the college football world by storm with
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Shador Sanders and Travis Hunter, who are not there anymore.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
How do you follow it up? What are you expecting
from Colorado this season.
Speaker 9 (40:58):
It's going to be I think a rebuild, not like
the rebuild that he and they had when they all
came from Jackson State and it was an awful program.
They had won one game the previous year, and he
made them respectable. You know, they went from four wins
in the first year to nine wins in a top
twenty five season last year. But as you said, now,
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his star quarterback, who is the leader of the offense,
his son is in the NFL, and the real star
of the team, the guy who won the Heisman, Travis
Hunters in Jacksonville, and he was such a two way
force and a difference maker. I think replacing not just
the leadership but the star power of hey, we need
a big play and those guys could step up and
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make it. We saw that time and time again, especially
with Travis Hunter. Those guys are gone now. So you
have new quarterbacks. Cayden Salter, who's played a lot more
of a running quarterback from Liberty. Juju Lewis is a
seventeen year old quarterback who was a big recruit. I
think you'll see some version of a split. You'll see
probably both quarterbacks play. I think there's more talent in
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the trenches right now that's you than they had in
Dion's first two years. I think they're probably a little
more balanced across the board. I don't think they have
the wow players and the splash players, certainly led by Travis,
and they have a real tough opener Georgia Tech has
to come to Boulder. But this is a really good team.
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I remember this is the same team that took Georgia
to like ten overtimes Thanksgiving weekend. They're good and they're physical.
It is very much like the same team, same style,
a team that blew Colorado out in the Alamobile that
BYU team, really physical, punishing, run game, very very diverse
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in how they attack you in the run game. And
I think those are the challenges that Colorado is going
to have to learn from and see if they're up
to it, because this is going to be a real
physical test for them right out of the gate.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Talking college football with Bruce Feldman, we are just over
a month from the two teams with the two best
title odds, Texas and Ohio State playing each other. An
unbelievable way to start it off for those two powerhouse programs.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Who has the.
Speaker 9 (43:12):
Edge in this case, I'm going to say it's the
team that's the home team, which is Ohio State. You know,
so many changes. Obviously, both teams are replacing quarterbacks. You
also have on the Ohio State side, they have to
replace both the offensive and defensive coordinators. Ohio State lost,
you know, pretty much its entire d line, whereas whereas
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Texas lost four of its five starters. Who are going
to be in front of Arch Manning? Now, I think
it's a really interesting chess match here between Steve sarkiz
And and Arch Manning against Matt Patricia, who's now the
defensive coordinator. Comes from the NFL to the Big Ten.
Now what I think is a big help. In addition
to it being a home game for the Buckeyes, they
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have the best offensive and the best defensive players in
the country coming back. Amia Smith, who you're seeing all
the highlights of. Now, that great receiver. He's six three,
two hundred and twenty five pounds and is unguardable. You
have to double team them, you may even have to
triple team them. And then on the other side of
the ball, Caleb Downs is a phenomenal safety who makes
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big plays all over the field and is really a
leader and probably the smartest defensive player in college football.
Those two guys are such difference makers. I think that
gives them a big advantage. And again, Texas is loaded.
I think they're a top five team, but with a
rebuilt offensive line completely and going into a real hostile
environment and a team that has such star power, I
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would give the edge, not a huge one, but I
would give the edge to Ohio State at the start
of the year at least.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
Yeah, I can't believe Jeremiah Smith still can't enter the NFL.
The guy is an absolute beast. You mentioned the offensive
line in front of Arch Manning. You'll be asked this
a million times between now and the end of the year.
Do you expect him to be an NFL draft pick
at the end of this season?
Speaker 3 (45:01):
I don't.
Speaker 9 (45:02):
I think just knowing the Mannings and his parents a
little bit, I think they know that it's probably in
his best interest to keep getting reps and keep playing
and keep getting game action. Now it's a little different
these days compared to just you know, when his brother
his uncles were playing, where the season could be a
lot longer. I mean, if Texas is is good and
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does as well as I think they're going to do.
They're probably going to play sixteen games, and that's a
lot more than a twelve game schedule. There's also more
injury risk with a longer stretch. I mean, he only
started two games though last year. He's played some, but
not a lot, and I think just to be a
one year starter. Even if everything goes great, and let's
say he leads them to a national title and they
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go fifteen to one and win a national title, I
still think there's going to be some you know, hesitation
about is he ready? Is it in his best interest
to jump into the NFL. You know, when I talked
to Cooper Manning his dad a couple of months ago,
one of the things we talked about was just, you know,
he brought up about when you're ready. You know, he's
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seen so many examples of, especially in the NFL, quarterbacks
who might not be as ready as they could be
getting thrown under the bus pretty quick because the process
doesn't wait, doesn't have much patience. But I think he's
super talented. Everybody I talked to at Texas raves about
his football intelligence. He's really athletic. I think he's in
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a really good position. It's just I think time is
something that's you know, you can't put a price on that.
I just think that maybe the added reps of being
a two year starter probably would help his long term development.
But you know, let's see, we don't have a crystal ball.
We're just kind of just kind of going on how
we think the process will play out for him.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
All right, I got to do this quickly.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
I feel like, I, oh, it's a Colin cowher since
he's letting me sit in this seat. What do you
make of this idea of Nick Saban maybe not being
done coaching and if he is better suited nowadays for
the NFL than college man.
Speaker 9 (47:08):
He's going to be seventy four in a couple of months.
I just I think he is, even if he's tempted
to look at the NFL. Look, you know, Pete Carroll's
around the same age, and he's in Las Vegas and
he's got a ton of energy. Saban seems to have
a ton of energy. I know from the conversations he
had when he walked away at Alabama. It was it
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was all the things going around the sport and the
way everything's run just he didn't need it anymore. He
seems like he's doing a really good job in TV.
I just think if he's going to jump back into it,
you know, that's not just him, that's him and his
wife who have to, you know, make that decision. I'd
still be very surprised, being in his mid seventies, if
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he decided to come back to the grind that is coaching.
Even if it's in the NFL, you have more of
an offseason than you do as a college coach.
Speaker 4 (47:59):
Bruce Fel football, college football reporter for Fox Sports and
New York Times bestselling author, Thank you so much for
the time on a big news day in college football.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
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Speaker 3 (00:44):
We've got a great show for you today on this Monday,
my guy Cole Kamt from the Bears.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
We'll join us in about thirty minutes to explain why
everyone is completely correct. It's a panic about every interception
around Caleb Williams. Do I think Cole might have a
different take on that? Bruce Feldman the show, my new
teammate at First Things First, Chris Brussard later on the
Bear Tons of Football. Because we made it. There's a
football game this week, kind of in the Hall of
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Fame game. But we've got a lot of NFL to
get to over the course of today's show. But somehow, someway,
even though it is game week in the NFL, Lebron
James still finds himself in the center of the news.
Because I did not expect to land in Los Angeles
to an Instagram post from a guy I had never
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heard of, who was Nikola Jokicic's agent on a yacht
in France with Lebron James and Maverick Carter. I was like, oh, okay,
Lebron World's traveler. Who who among us hasn't been on
a yacht in the south of France with the greatest
offensive player in twenty years as agent?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Right?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I mean, it's a thing that could happen to anybody,
And I'm like, all right, that's nice. They bumped into
each other while vacationing having some fine wine, and then
you read the caption on Nikola Jokich's agent's Instagram post.
The summer of twenty twenty five is the perfect time
to make big plans for the fall of twenty twenty six.
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Summer of twenty twenty five, that's now perfect time to
make big plans for the fall of twenty twenty six. Yeah,
that's gonna have some reverberations around the NBA because everybody
seems to be convinced because the Lakers invited Luca to
dinner and didn't invite him because they are not willing
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to trade the last first round pick that they control
to go out and make a bigger move for this
offseason to try to be all in quote unquote to
win now with Lebron, that Lebron is somehow unhappy with
the Lakers, and Lebron, by the way, has done some
things to fan fuel to that flames. Because I like
to say about Lebron, we're similar in age. We're elder millennials.
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We grew up with the Internet. We understand what it's say. Oh,
I'm gonna unfollow my employer, I'm gonna tweak this thing,
I'm gonna patrol a little bit. Lebron in his camp
is very good at controlling the message and nothing that
they do is without intent, and he drives the twenty
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four to seven sports talk industrial complex more than any
modern athlete, arguably more than any athlete ever so he's vacationing,
he's on a yacht. This guy puts out a post
and now it becomes a story. But I don't think
Lebron is leaving LA and it is for no better
reason than say it out loud, Lebron James Denver nugget.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I just don't believe it. I have a very hard
time believing.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
The guy who is now on his third franchise, who
has delivered LA at Championship, who just got Kukadancich as
a teammate, who they drafted his son, He's building his
forever home out here, he has all of his business
ventures out here. I have a hard time believe believing.
On that yacht they were talking about Lebron James going
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to Denver, and for the life of me, I have
struggled with understanding why we talk about Jokic and his
future in Denver so different than we talk about Giannis
and his future in Milwaukee. Again, this was Joker's agent
talking about big plans for next summer. Well, Yokic is
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under contract for this year, and he's under contract for
next year, but then he's got a player option the
year after that. And it's not that long ago when
Josh Kronk, the owner of the Nuggets, for some unknown reason,
floated the idea of trading Joker. You remember, for us
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as an organization, going into that second aprin is not
necessarily something that we're scared of. I think that there
are rules around it that we needed to be very
careful of with our injury history. The wrong person gets
injured and very quickly you're into scenario where that I
never want to have to contemplate. And at the trading
number fifteen odd choice, I think we could all agree
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to unprompted bring up trading Nikola jokicch But Yannis can't
do anything without one hundred headlines and hot take people
being like Gianis has to leave Milwaukee. When Giannis was
an international pick to a small market team who's won
an MVP and delivered a championship and has signed multiple
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extensions to stay with the team that drafted him. Nikola
Jokich has won multiple MVPs, has one championship, was a
late round, second round pick international player drafted by a
small market team. There are way more similarities to Jannis
and Jokic, but no one ever talks about Jokic being
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unhappy in Denver. What if Jokic's agent is making big
plans for next year when for all intents and purposes,
it is an expiring contract for Yokic, Because the year
after is a player option for Jokic to leave Denver
to go to Los Angeles to play with his longtime
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friend Luka Doncic, that feels to me way more likely
what the big plans could be than Lebron James being
a Denver nugget for one year. I have no idea
how many more years Lebron James is playing. We say
Father Time is undefeated. Lebron James is trying to shatter
expectations on that cliche, but to say it out loud.
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Test tells me it is more likely that they're just trolling. Frankly,
but that if I had to say Jokic in LA
and they figure out a way to make that work,
or le Ron just straight signs in Denver for a year,
which granted is simpler given Lebron is not under contract
beyond this year as we all know, I'll still take
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the more difficult path and believe that it's much more
likely that Lebron is figuring out a way to team
up with Jokic, pair him with Luca, make one more
run at a championship two years from now, and then
sail off into the Sunsets, leaving the Lakers set up
to be successful after him and having that be a
part of his Lakers' legacy. I won you the title
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in the bubble, maybe I won you a second title,
and oh yeah, by the way, I set you up
to have the best duo in the NBA going forward
with Luca and the Joker. So we don't know where
jokicch or Lebron's going. I got a pretty good idea
how this next story is going to end, but it
still doesn't change any of the drama. Micah Parsons is
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going to stay in Dallas. But it's lovely to see
that there's thirty one teams in the NFL and then
there's just a television producer.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Because as a content guy who loves.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
The NFL year round, I feel like all of us,
everyone who sits behind a microphone, should have to write
a handwritten thank you letter to Jerry Jones and the
Dallas Cowboys, because love them or hate them, we all
have an opinion of how they do business and why
they are just still so relevant and compelling despite it
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being thirty years without a championship, and so over the weekend,
Micah Parsons, who doesn't have a contract, apparently has a
little back tightness, but is there at training camp just
not really participating. Jerry Jones because for some reason, the
owner of the team needs to face the fans at
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training camp with a bunch of cheerleaders behind him, had
to come out and say whatever he was saying about
the new and improved team, and he was greeted with
chance of pay Micah, Pay Micah, and then he talked
to the afterwards and he was like, ah, well the
chance for paying CD were loud er last year, and
you know, we paid Mike, we paid Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
And then he got hurt.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
He can't help himself because this is what he does.
And Dak Prescott last year said, you know, I just
kind of stopped listening to Jerry, which is a bold
thing for a quarterback to say about the guy who
signs his check.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
But that was last year.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Cede Lamb just last week, when talking about Micah Parsons
and these contract negotiations that are playing out as publicly
as any contract negotiations in the NFL. He was like, yeah,
we just don't play in those waters with the media
and Jerry Jones.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Obviously, playing his media game with Jerry is not the best,
is not fun, is not recommended. But as for Micah,
he knows what he brings to this table, honestly, for
this team, for himself, and he should get what he deserved.
And I'm not indulging any of the craziness that they
got going, but I do want Michael to get paid soon, and.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
He will get paid. We all know how this ends.
This is just noise. Last year, Nick Bosa got paid
and then Max Crosby got paid, and for a moment
in time, oh my god, Miles Garrett was going to
be traded from the Cleveland Browns. He wrote a nice
letter and everything, and then Miles Garrett became the highest
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paid non quarterback in football and he wants to be
a Brown for life and for a while. I mean,
I'm old enough to remember three weeks ago when TJ.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Watt was really unhappy with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Oh man, they were far apart, they weren't going to
get it done. And then whila, it's amazing with forty
one million dollars per year. To rush the quarterback and
lose Wild Card weekend can do to a guy's mood, and.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
All of a sudden, TJ.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Watt back with the Steelers, thrilled, Micah Parsons will be
a Dallas Cowboy. He will get another contract. He will
top TJ. Watts forty one million per year. My guess
is by a decent amount actually, just given the age difference.
I don't think it's going to be forty one point
two or forty two. He'll probably try to get to
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forty four to forty five million a year, put some
distance between him and the other pass rushers. And I'm
sure that's the sticking point in the negotiations right now.
But I think would be called a media literacy test here.
I think we would all be served to actually pay
attention to Jerry Jones. And I know it's a bolt strategy,
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and Ceedee Lamb and Dak Prescott have said they're trying
to do different things, but I.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Don't play quarterback for the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Jerry Jones saw how this country was enamored with the
Last Dance, and he said, I gotta get me one
of those and he struck a deal with Netflix to
produce a multi part story of the Cowboys, and it's
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coming soon, and we'll see what America's appetite is for
a long form documentary on America's team will be as
popular as the Last Dance because we're not in the
middle of a pandemic. But they were popular in the nineties.
The Bulls were popular in the nineties. I'm sure it
will do quite well. But when the trailer came out,
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there was a little snippet from Jerry Jones that I
actually was like, ah, there it is, thank you. This
is a soap opera three hundred and sixty five days
a year.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
That is his business model.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
That is why they're not in the biggest market, but
they're the most valuable franchise.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
They don't have the.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Most wins or the most Super Bowls, but they're the
most valuable, most talked about franchise. He believes, and frankly
has been proven right that the soap opera is what sells.
He's the owner, but he's also the general manager. But
they absolutely have a general manager in Will maclay. Like
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nobody believes that Jerry Jones is scouring Senior boll tape,
but he wants to call himself the general manager. No
owner in the NFL calls into local radio every week.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
No other owner in the.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
NFL does a postgame press conference every week. They played
it out with Dak Prescott, they played it out with
Ceedee Lamb, They played it out with Michah Parsons.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
What does that do? Back in the day, we would
say it filled column inches?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Now it fills airtime because then Micah Parsons has a
podcast and he weighs in, Ceedee Lamb gets asked about it.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
That makes a news cycle story.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
The fans chant something at him, that's a news cycle story,
and on and on and on. Jerry Jones is competitive.
Jerry Jones wants to win. He just also wants to
be the most talked about. You don't hear the Roonies
or the Maras, or the mccaskey's or anyone else doing
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it the way that Jerry Jones does. But Jerry Jones's
team is worth more money, so he probably looks at
it like this might cost me a few million bucks,
and that thanks for a Cowboys fan who wants to
maximize the salary cap. But he's like the column inches
and the airtime more than makes up for it because
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people are talking about the Dallas Cowboys. It's a soap opera.
Three hundred and sixty five days a year. Those are
his words, not mine again. Thirty one teams and a
television producer, and it's been the highest rated TV show
in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
For the last thirty years.
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Coming up next on The Herd, the guy who has
the most to gain, I would say, by far if
he won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
He got philosophical over the.
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Weekend and I absolutely loved it.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Danny Parkinson for Colin.
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Speaker 4 (16:03):
Of this week, Cole Comet will join me from Bears
training camp in just under ten minutes or so. We'll
talk Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams, and if the Bears will
finally have a good offense for basically the first time
in my entire life as someone who was born in
Chicago in nineteen eighty six, but every year around this time,
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it's who's gonna be the breakout candidate, what's the team
that's gonna surprise, who's going to disappoint, who's under the
most pressure, who's on the hot seat.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
And there's it's totally open ended.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
There's a bunch of different ways you can go with
any of that stuff, right, I think, for who needs
the Super Bowl win the most, whose legacy reputation would
benefit from one the most, there's a pretty obvious answer here,
and it is Josh Allen, and Josh Allen to me,
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he's a guy I root for. I've never met him,
I've never spoke to him. I have absolutely no connection
to the Buffalo Bills organization in any way. But Patrick Ewing,
Charles Barkley, all time greats who played during the Michael
Jordan era.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Like man that must have been tough. That's what it
feels like.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Josh Allen is in the Patrick Mahomes era because we
saw this not that long ago. Right, it was Brady
and Manning, but there was also Ben Roethlisberger and Philip
Rivers in the AFC.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
It was just a dominant thing.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
And Ben Roethlisberger got his Philip Rivers never did, and
it'll probably keep Philip Rivers out of Canton, even though
he's sixth all time in yards and touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Josh Allen is the second best player in football.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Lamar Jackson made that an interesting conversation last year when
he had over forty passing touchdowns and under five interceptions
going to full Rogers. But for a real body of work,
it has been Josh Allen. And obviously Josh got his
MVP last year, but if you look at the sample
of five years his prime, basically like since Josh Allen
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became Josh Allen. If it wasn't for Patrick Mahomes, it
would be universally agreed upon that this guy was the
best player in football. Because it is universally agreed upon
that Patrick Mahomes is the best player in football, and
the only thing that Josh Allen can't do is be
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better than Patrick Mahomes. He's second in wins, he's second
in passing yards, and he's second in passing touchdowns. Over
the last five years, with Mahomes being first, first, and
first across the board, that has got to be a
maddening existence.
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Speaker 8 (18:58):
Lot to me, and I really appreciate him sharing those words.
But yeah, it's kind of crazy. Were you just kind
of coming out here and you're doing everything that you
can for a quick enjoyment of it, and then you're
on to the next and it's again, it's like the
MVP Awards, Like I don't look back and think about
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that night like it happened.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
It was over with, and I'll never think about it again.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
To be honest, there is something that's sad about that,
but any high performer would understand. It's the journey, it's
the process, it's what you go through to get there,
because that's what actually takes the time. And then when
you sank the final potter, you hoist the Lombardi Trophy.
At some point that night ends and you just go back.
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I think it makes a ton of sense what Scheffler
said that it would relate with Josh Allen. But if
Josh Allen were to win, like, let's just play out
the hypothetical. Let's say Josh Allen plays the Chiefs in
the playoffs again and this time he beats them and
the Bills, who are a slightly better favorite in the
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AFC than the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
That's mostly because they play in the AFC East.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
But still, Let's say the Bills won that Super Bowl
and Josh Allen had his Super Bowl moments, the Super
Bowl MVP, all of a sudden, he's like, all right,
I've got an MVP, I've got a Super Bowl, I've
got a Super Bowl MVP, and I beat Mahomes on
the way there.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
He would still be a distant second to Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Obviously, multiple MVPs, the three rings, the multiple appearances. Obviously,
there's nothing that could happen this year that could have
Josh Allen passing Patrick Mahomes. But at least the Manning
Brady rivalry could potentially start to creep back into existence
because Brady has the way better trophy case. But Peyton
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Manning was looked at as a worthy adversary, an all
time great, a first ballot Hall of Famer, truly worthy
number two to Brady's number one. He got to the
four Super Bowls, he won a couple of them. They
had epic regular season battles. They both were able to
beat each other in the postseason the regular season.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
The same thing.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Now it's Josh has beaten Patrick in the regular season
but never in the postseason, and Mahomes has all of
the hardware. When Josh Allen has to look around and
he's like, I'm just as good as this guy. He
has to believe that, even if you and I don't,
because if he is that close to him statistically over
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a huge sample size for that long and he's beaten
him in the regular season, I have no reason to
believe that he doesn't believe that he can get there.
And quick aside, I'm glad that Scotti Scheffler is having
his moment here. After the open takes the Claret jug
and he goes to the Happy Gilmore two premiere, and
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now Happy Gilmore two is out. You all need to
relax a little bit. Alreadys to relax with the hot takes.
I'm Happy Gilmore too. The movie's fine. You go in
with low expectations and then it clears them. It was nostalgic.
There were cameos. I won't give anything away, but Scheffler's
was hilarious. Will's alatorus was hilarious. John Daly's was funny.
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You know what you're getting going into an Adam Sandler movie.
He's a volume shooter. Can he give you uncut gems
and punch drum glove? Yeah, but he also wants to
put his family and friends in movies and have a
good time at hangout and do some ridiculousness and do
some dumb stuff and.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Do some callbacks. It was a movie. It was fine.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
I'll ever watch it again. But this was the best
thing ever. Was the worst thing ever. No, it was
an Adam Sandler movie in twenty twenty five that hundreds
of millions of people somehow will somehow watch it based
on the Netflix algorithm, and we'll all keep going on
with our lives. And you can't recreate the stuff of
the classic from the nineties, but we grew up.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
That's kind of how it works.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
So I'm glad Scotti Scheffler had his moment though, because
he's seen as this like robotic golfer and then he
was hilarious in the movie.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
But Josh Allen having the ability to come to grips with.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Being second and having that emotional maturity to understand.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
I'm doing everything I can. I have been great. I
have been great.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
In the regular season I have been great in the postseason,
and no one looks around very good offensive line. They
transitioned and gave him a more balanced attack with Cook,
They've changed offensive coordinators. They have figured out a way
to consistently be great with a great quarterback, not with
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a super team now with all pros everywhere, just on
the talent and the development and the leadership of that
guy of Josh Allen, they have figured out a way
to put themselves in a position to every single year
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be competing for a shot at a Lombardi Trophy. There
is no doubt in my mind that Josh Allen is
going to win at some point. He's just got to
slay that dragon. And then when he does, I would
say the rivalry is on. So I hope we get
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Bill's Chiefs again in the playoffs. And even though I
covered the Chiefs for years and lived in Kansas City,
if Josh Allen got his, I'd feel like he's earned
it because he's been the second best of.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Mahomes for five years. At this point. Speaking of the Chiefs,
access is good, and we see stories.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
All the time now because we're on the internet and
we are addicted to football that we want any little
nugget or morsel of information. Anthony Richardson threw an interception.
He's going to never figure it out. Caleb Williams threw
an interception. Ben Johnson's innovation on offense isn't working. That
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is just how it works in the information age and
how addicted to football we are. And I'm not even
saying that there's nothing that you can take out of
reports from training camp. Hey, they put lines on these
preseason games. I'm not above gambling on the Hall of
Fame game. I think you can have impact on your
fantasy drafts. I'm not saying don't pay attention to it,
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but judging stats or results from practices.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Is insane. Almost none of it matters.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
But if you want a topic from training camp that
does matter, I would give you Josh Simmons being with
the ones for the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Already, Josh Simmons was supposed to be a top.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Fifteen pick out of Ohio State and he broke his
pateeller tendon and he fell to the Chiefs with a
thirty first pick in the draft.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
And anyone who remembers the chief season last year.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
It was a revolving door, right four different guys played
left tackle for the Chiefs, so much so that they
had to shift Joe Dooney they're all Pro guard from
left guard to left tackle, and now he's on the Bears.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
So it became a situation where then.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
The Eagles off, of course, dominated the Chiefs offensive line
among other things that they dominated in that Super Bowl,
and it brought flashbacks to when the Chiefs lost to
Tampa in the Super Bowl, when Mahomes' offensive line fell
apart last year. This was the worst offensive line of
the Mahomes era. He was hit one hundred and eighteen times.
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He was sacked forty one times, four different left tackles.
They lose their left guard to the Bears. The guy
they drafted Kingsley Sue or Sue matiaala excuse me, in
the second round two years ago. Now he's going to
be their left guard. But if Josh Simmons is what
Josh Simmons is supposed to be, a top fifteen pick
on a cheap contract who immediately comes in and plays
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left tackle, well, now, all of a sudden, you've got
an elite prospect on a cheap contract at left tackle.
Kingsley goes from left tackle to left guard second year
in the league. Creed Humphrey center, one of the best
centers in the NFL under a long term contract. Tray
Smith one of the best right guards in the NFL
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under a long term contract. And while Juwan Tayler frustrates
people because he gets a few too many penalties and
he does that like a little quick jump off where
it feels like he's getting a jump off the line
of scrimmage that a bunch of guys do.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Jewan Taylor is a fine right tackle.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
And then they signed more the backup from the Niners,
to a healthy contract. All of a sudden, the Chiefs
offensive line, if Simmons is legit goes from huge liability,
huge weakness to massive strength. And last season the Chiefs
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offense was just not impressive. It was not impressive in
terms of points scored, obviously, but the big one that
anyone could see if you watched the game was like,
where did the big plays go? And it wasn't just
like Tyreek Hill he's been gone for a few years.
Where And it's not did Mahomes forget how to throw
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the deep ball? No? Is it all just that the
opposing defensive coordinators are doing the cover two shell and
daring you to beat him underneath.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Yeah, that's some of it.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
They were last in the NFL in touchdowns that went
twenty plus yards. Whereshi Rice and Hollywood Brown and Xavier
Worthy played a grand total of zero snaps together last year.
Hollywood Brown is healthy. We'll see what discipline comes for
Rashi Rice off the field. Xavier Worthy had the great
Super Bowl. But those three guys are going to play
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together this year. And the offensive line should be better,
so that means the offense should be better. And those
are the types of training camp stories to me that matters.
New guy in new place, rookie making and adjustment, healthy
or not healthy. When a player throws an interception, well,
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did the coach before the rep tell him, you've got
to go to this route because we've got to work
on the timing. There was he playing against the ones
or the twos? What was going on on the offensive line?
We just don't we don't know. We don't know so
many of the details of what they were trying to
accomplish in a given play or a given drill, that
reporting on successes or failures or stats or any of
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that just feels like a fool's errand. But the Kansas
City Chiefs got a franchise caliber left tackle with a
thirty first pick in the draft who we didn't know
if he was going to be healthy for week one,
and he was healthy for day one of training camp.
So the guy they signed from the Niners is now
rotating on the right side of the offensive line stead
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of the left side of the offensive line.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Yeah, that's a story.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Chiefs offense catching up with the Chiefs defense, which has
carried them the last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
That's a story.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Because of Spagnola gets the defense to be what the
defense has been. The offense gets back to being what
the offense was. That's why the Chiefs aren't afraid of
the Broncos or the Chargers or the improved Raiders or
anyone else because last year, I mean two years ago,
they won the Super Bowl, leading the league in drops.
Last year, they had the least explosive offense in the NFL,
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had four different left tackles, and they won fifteen games
that made it to the Super Bowl. So you want
a training camp story that matters, Josh Simmons getting reps.
Already forget reps. He's your first string left tackle for
the Kansas City Chiefs. That is a training camp story
that matters. We had some tech issues with Cole Kamett.
We'll try to figure that out. But on the other side,
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there's a big lesson that Caleb Williams learned from last season,
and it's worth getting into.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Danny Parkins.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
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Top ten quarterbacks in the NFL heading into the twenty
twenty five NFL season.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Number ten Jalen Hurts I said.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
It and I mean it.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
He's like, you gotta give it more credit for winning
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
I am.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
He was outside of my top ted last year. Like
spoiler alert, he's ahead of Dak Prescott. He wasn't this
time last season.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Jalen Hurts great leader, clutch, perfect for that team in
that system, but not asked to do nearly as much
for his team's success as the guys.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Nine through one on my list. Number nine the Bake Show.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Baker Mayfield is the poster child for patience. We'll see
what Bryce Young ends up being in Carolina. But Baker Mayfield, man,
they haven't figured it out in Carolina.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
They haven't figured it out in Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
This guy the last two seasons comfortably inside the top ten.
He's first in passing touchdowns, second in passing yards, fourth
in passer rating.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
And sixth in yards per attempt. Baker Mayfield all the respects.
Number eight.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Jared Goff, like Jalen Hurts, has a ton around him,
no doubt about it. But doing it with two different franchises,
with the Rams to a super Bowl and now the
Lions as perennial contenders year in and year out matters
and last year, I mean, career highs in points per game,
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thirty three completion percentage, passing, touchdowns, passer rating, yards per
attempt and oh yeah, by the way, wins Jared Goff's
stud and he's playing up to the billing of being
the number one, oh overall pick seven. It's the best
rookie season I've ever seen. Jaden Daniels is the guy
on this list who at the end that top four
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is just so ironclad. It's like Mount Rushmore. Hey, you
know we should do that as a sports radio hook
Mount Rushmore. Has anyone ever thought of that? But if
there was a guy outside of the top four who
could jump in. If Jadeen Daniels builds on a rookie
season with the third down efficiency, the fourth down efficiency,
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the winning the one score victories, if he takes that
Lamar Jackson Patrick Mahomes type of leap, he's in the
MVP conversation. He's in the top four conversation. Number six.
Matt Stafford's been that dude for well over a decade.
As soon as he leaves Detroit, he goes to the Rams.
He gets better coaching, he gets a little better talent
around him, he gets a better system, and he gets
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a ring in the playoffs. He's been a stud with McVeigh,
he's been a stud. And this one is still a
bit of the eye test. We'll see what the offensive
line is. The Rams this year left tackles already hurt.
They've got some questions kind of across the board with
Humphreys there, but at his age, he needs good protection.
But if he gets good protection, there's really no one
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in the world that's better at throwing the football.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Number five, except for.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Maybe my guy Justin Herbert who I think is very
Matt Stafford esque and still, by the way, on the
exact same career trajectory as Peyton Manning. Big year for
Herbert with Harball, with the running game, with arguably the
best tackle duo outside of Philadelphia in the NFL. Five
hundred plus pass attempts, three or fewer interceptions justin Herbert
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last year. Aaron Rodgers give him more weapons, which they
did in the draft. The passing game produces even more
justin Herbert, absolute stud the fifth best quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Number four.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
This one I struggle with, but I'm giving it to
Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson statistically last year, him and Aaron
Rodgers only quarterbacks with more than forty passing touchdowns and
fewer than five interceptions. He was brilliant, but he didn't
win the MVP to Josh Allen. Once you get into
the top four, I think we are dealing with parsing
greatness among the guys in the postseason. And Lamar still
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has a losing record in the postseason. But he's a
first ballot Hall of Famer. Give him a ring.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
He jumps up on the list. Number three. Joe Burrow,
I'm not going to knock him for his defense.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Joe Burrow had a losing record in games where his
team scored more than thirty points last year. It's an impossibility.
He has a middle of the row defense. He's the
MVP of the league. Last year, his passer rating and
losses was one to eight point two, second highest passer
rating and losses ever for a quarterback to lose eight
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or more games.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Joe Burrow third best quarterback in the league.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Number two.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I've said it before, I'll say it again. It's very clearly,
Josh Allen.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
If it wasn't for Patrick Mahomes, it would be universally
accepted that this guy was the best in the NFL.
He's second to Mahomes and wins. He's second to Mahomes
in passing yards. He's second to Mahomes in passing touchdowns.
In the last five seasons, this is your second best quarterback.
This is your second best player in football, which frankly
ruins the suspense for number one.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Number one.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Mahomes is still on that Brady track. Through eight seasons.
He's still there. Double digit win seasons, he's still on
the track the Super Bowls. He's still on the track.
The regular season wins, he's ahead of him. The playoff wins,
he's ahead of him. The conference titles, he's ahead of him.
Super Bowls, he's even to him. Guy's going to play
football for another ten plus years, and that Brady conversation
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is going to start really picking up. Give him that
explosive offense back with the Spagnolo's defense, He'll just add
more to his trophy case. There's your top ten quarterbacks
heading in to this season. What a perfect list. By
the way, I don't know though anyone could dispute anything
on there, except apparently Philly Fence.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
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Speaker 4 (38:10):
App Back In on the Herd of Danny Parkins in
for Colin Cowherd today, Tomorrow and Wednesday. Huge news in
the world of college football, in the world of sports,
because while Deon Sanders is a fixture in college football,
he's one of the most famous athletes alive and one
of the greatest athletes alive. Announcing that he had his
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bladder removed because of a cancerous tumor that was on
his bladder, that announcement coming just moments ago. So it's
a great time to welcome to the herd. Bruce Felman,
Fox Sports college football reporter and New York Times best
selling author, Bruce, thank you very much for the time.
Obviously good news that the surgery was successful, but your
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reaction to the Dion Sanders press conference with his whole
medical team there at colleg.
Speaker 9 (39:01):
Yeah, it's pretty jolting just to hear how serious this
was to have the bladder removed, to have it was
a cancerous tumor that was in there. They actually, according
to the doctors who were at the press conference, they
actually had the procedure done by robot. And when one
of the doctors was explaining kind of the process here
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when when Dion was diagnosed with it, it was like
he was told, with this kind of cancer, there's a
fifty percent chance of reoccurrence, and he wanted to explore
his other options, and so that became this to basically
have a new bladder built for him and have the
old one removed. I mean, it's crazy because in the
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course of this press conference, the doctor had said this
was his fourteenth surgery that he's had just in the
last four years, which is kind of mind blowing that
he's had that many procedures. I had seen him at
Big twelve media days earlier this month in Texas, and
he wasn't really back on the job at least in
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terms of back with his team, but talking to him
for a couple of minutes, you could tell that, you know,
something significant had happened. It wasn't like this was a
guy who was on vacation for a month or went
to Europe or anything. And even for the people I
know who are close to him, they you know, they
really kind of stressed something, you know, significant it happened.
And now to hear it, it's really eye opening.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
Yeah, and it's courageous to be public with anything like that.
So that'll make a huge difference both for those kids
in the program, but just anyone who follows sports and
here's that sort of thing. So again, congrats to Dion
for the positive medical news there and what apparently was
a successful surgery. Football is so secondary here, but they
kind of took the college football world by storm with
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Shador Sanders and Travis Hunter, who are not there anymore.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
How do you follow it up? What are you expecting
from Colorado this season.
Speaker 9 (40:58):
It's going to be I think a rebuild, not like
the rebuild that he and they had when they all
came from Jackson State and it was an awful program.
They had won one game the previous year, and he
made them respectable. You know, they went from four wins
in the first year to nine wins in a top
twenty five season last year. But as you said, now,
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his star quarterback, who is the leader of the offense,
his son is in the NFL, and the real star
of the team, the guy who won the Heisman, Travis
Hunters in Jacksonville, and he was such a two way
force and a difference maker. I think replacing not just
the leadership but the star power of hey, we need
a big play and those guys could step up and
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make it. We saw that time and time again, especially
with Travis Hunter. Those guys are gone now. So you
have new quarterbacks. Cayden Salter, who's played a lot more
of a running quarterback from Liberty. Juju Lewis is a
seventeen year old quarterback who was a big recruit. I
think you'll see some version of a split. You'll see
probably both quarterbacks play. I think there's more talent in
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the trenches right now that's you than they had in
Dion's first two years. I think they're probably a little
more balanced across the board. I don't think they have
the wow players and the splash players, certainly led by Travis,
and they have a real tough opener Georgia Tech has
to come to Boulder. But this is a really good team.
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I remember this is the same team that took Georgia
to like ten overtimes Thanksgiving weekend. They're good and they're physical.
It is very much like the same team, same style,
a team that blew Colorado out in the Alamobile that
BYU team, really physical, punishing, run game, very very diverse
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in how they attack you in the run game. And
I think those are the challenges that Colorado is going
to have to learn from and see if they're up
to it, because this is going to be a real
physical test for them right out of the gate.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Talking college football with Bruce Feldman, we are just over
a month from the two teams with the two best
title odds, Texas and Ohio State playing each other. An
unbelievable way to start it off for those two powerhouse programs.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Who has the.
Speaker 9 (43:12):
Edge in this case, I'm going to say it's the
team that's the home team, which is Ohio State. You know,
so many changes. Obviously, both teams are replacing quarterbacks. You
also have on the Ohio State side, they have to
replace both the offensive and defensive coordinators. Ohio State lost,
you know, pretty much its entire d line, whereas whereas
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Texas lost four of its five starters. Who are going
to be in front of Arch Manning? Now, I think
it's a really interesting chess match here between Steve sarkiz
And and Arch Manning against Matt Patricia, who's now the
defensive coordinator. Comes from the NFL to the Big Ten.
Now what I think is a big help. In addition
to it being a home game for the Buckeyes, they
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have the best offensive and the best defensive players in
the country coming back. Amia Smith, who you're seeing all
the highlights of. Now, that great receiver. He's six three,
two hundred and twenty five pounds and is unguardable. You
have to double team them, you may even have to
triple team them. And then on the other side of
the ball, Caleb Downs is a phenomenal safety who makes
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big plays all over the field and is really a
leader and probably the smartest defensive player in college football.
Those two guys are such difference makers. I think that
gives them a big advantage. And again, Texas is loaded.
I think they're a top five team, but with a
rebuilt offensive line completely and going into a real hostile
environment and a team that has such star power, I
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would give the edge, not a huge one, but I
would give the edge to Ohio State at the start
of the year at least.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
Yeah, I can't believe Jeremiah Smith still can't enter the NFL.
The guy is an absolute beast. You mentioned the offensive
line in front of Arch Manning. You'll be asked this
a million times between now and the end of the year.
Do you expect him to be an NFL draft pick
at the end of this season?
Speaker 3 (45:01):
I don't.
Speaker 9 (45:02):
I think just knowing the Mannings and his parents a
little bit, I think they know that it's probably in
his best interest to keep getting reps and keep playing
and keep getting game action. Now it's a little different
these days compared to just you know, when his brother
his uncles were playing, where the season could be a
lot longer. I mean, if Texas is is good and
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does as well as I think they're going to do.
They're probably going to play sixteen games, and that's a
lot more than a twelve game schedule. There's also more
injury risk with a longer stretch. I mean, he only
started two games though last year. He's played some, but
not a lot, and I think just to be a
one year starter. Even if everything goes great, and let's
say he leads them to a national title and they
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go fifteen to one and win a national title, I
still think there's going to be some you know, hesitation
about is he ready? Is it in his best interest
to jump into the NFL. You know, when I talked
to Cooper Manning his dad a couple of months ago,
one of the things we talked about was just, you know,
he brought up about when you're ready. You know, he's
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seen so many examples of, especially in the NFL, quarterbacks
who might not be as ready as they could be
getting thrown under the bus pretty quick because the process
doesn't wait, doesn't have much patience. But I think he's
super talented. Everybody I talked to at Texas raves about
his football intelligence. He's really athletic. I think he's in
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a really good position. It's just I think time is
something that's you know, you can't put a price on that.
I just think that maybe the added reps of being
a two year starter probably would help his long term development.
But you know, let's see, we don't have a crystal ball.
We're just kind of just kind of going on how
we think the process will play out for him.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
All right, I got to do this quickly.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
I feel like, I, oh, it's a Colin cowher since
he's letting me sit in this seat. What do you
make of this idea of Nick Saban maybe not being
done coaching and if he is better suited nowadays for
the NFL than college man.
Speaker 9 (47:08):
He's going to be seventy four in a couple of months.
I just I think he is, even if he's tempted
to look at the NFL. Look, you know, Pete Carroll's
around the same age, and he's in Las Vegas and
he's got a ton of energy. Saban seems to have
a ton of energy. I know from the conversations he
had when he walked away at Alabama. It was it
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was all the things going around the sport and the
way everything's run just he didn't need it anymore. He
seems like he's doing a really good job in TV.
I just think if he's going to jump back into it,
you know, that's not just him, that's him and his
wife who have to, you know, make that decision. I'd
still be very surprised, being in his mid seventies, if
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he decided to come back to the grind that is coaching.
Even if it's in the NFL, you have more of
an offseason than you do as a college coach.
Speaker 4 (47:59):
Bruce Fel football, college football reporter for Fox Sports and
New York Times bestselling author, Thank you so much for
the time on a big news day in college football.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Thank you, Bruce,
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