November 10, 2025 • 38 mins
Colin dives deep into another wild NFL weekend! He breaks down how Caleb Williams continues to prove he’s the real deal, orchestrating yet another game-winning drive for the Chicago Bears—and reveals the two key traits Williams shares with other elite franchise quarterbacks.
Then, Colin reacts to breaking NFL news: the New York Giants fire head coach Brian Daboll. What went wrong in New York, and who should be next in line to coach QB Jaxson Dart?
Plus, it’s another edition of “Where Colin Was Right, Where Colin Was Wrong”—Colin nails it on Matthew Stafford, but takes the L on Pete Carroll and the Las Vegas Raiders.
Plus, Heisman Trophy winner Robert Griffin III joins the show to discuss why he believes the Giants should hire Lane Kiffin, and breaks down what’s really going on with Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers offense.
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Here we go on a Monday.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
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One hour from now. Jmak I woke up little icing
on the cape in Chicago put.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Me in a mood for fall and winter.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
So there's this one question Jy Mack, as we start
our show today, the eternal question with the Chicago Bears
and the guys up north, the Green Bay Packers always
have an answer in Chicago, never does the Eternal question
for the Chicago Bears is why can't we figure quarterback out?
I think you have now, ironically, it's the defense that
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is hurting you.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
So let's talk Bears.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Not having a spy against Jackson Dart made no sense.
The Giants don't have neighbors, scatter Boot. The weather was bad.
How do you not have a spy against Jackson Dart?
Bad coordinating by Dennis Allen. But the story of the
day was again a fourth quarter comeback, another one by
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Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
And this is the thing.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Jackson darts young and athletic, but for the fourth time
in seven starts, Jackson darts in the concussion.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Protocol tent.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
And Caleb never is two things that have always been
true about Kleb Williams really durable, doesn't get hurt, and
he doesn't throw picks.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Let me add a third.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
He's clutch and I don't know how to define it.
I always felt this about Joe Burrow. I don't really
know how to define it. I want to ask Jimmy Johnson,
Troy Aikman's a great leader, can you define it? He
goes no, not really is no when you see it.
And that's what clutch is. If you start looking at
Caleb Williams fourth quarter numbers in the four game winning drives,
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his passer rating is like one forty five. He's a
better quarterback under duress, trailing. He's an unbelievable game winning
drive fourth quarter quarterback. By the way, Botnick's pretty good too,
but this feels different. So his receive were struggling, it
was cold, and multiple times, even on some incompletions, Caleb
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would roll right and show off that arm. I'm not
sure is there a better arm in the league. I
think he holds the ball too long, but I think
that's born at a confidence that you can't sack him
with one body. You've got to get multiple people on him.
He's just too big. He's just too.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Strong, incredibly durable.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And we always talk about, you know, quarterbacks, what they
can do, but a lot of success. Remember Belichick talked
about Tom Brady his favorite asset, no negative plays, always
plays ahead of the sticks.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
And that's one of the things about Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Now he's not taking the sacks and he's never thrown
a lot of interceptions, so he's not taking those negative plays.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
So much about quarterback isn't what you do. It's what
you don't do.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
You don't run backwards and scramble and get behind the sticks.
So I think it's official. He's still growing. But the
Chicago Bears have their first great quarterback. They've had good ones,
Rex Grozeman in a couple good years. Jay Cutler was good.
None of them were great and I mean only three penalties.
So they've gotten the operational part, which was very clunky
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early is for a lot of young quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
They've cleaned that up.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
They were three or four in the red zone, hardest
place to score. So we knew Ben Johnson Hurley was
the right fit, and now Caleb's the right fit for
Ben Johnson.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Slowly working together.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So you watch the Bears offense, head coach, quarterback, weapons,
red zone efficiency.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
This is what green Bay has been doing.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
You know about nowur train right up north for thirty
plus years. Now green Bay is trying to solve their offense.
In Chicago's got their solt so again, fourth quarter rallies.
It doesn't matter what it looks like. Listen, it's cold,
it's windy. I think Chicago Bear receivers had six drops.
I mean he throws hard, John elways wide, receivers used
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to complain about this, like.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Caleb, he's got a cannon.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
He throws hard and sometimes you guys are gonna drop it.
But don't worry about the aesthetic and the optics. Fourth quarter,
they won. That's all that mattered. And here was Ben
Johnson with his star quarterback after the game.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Let me tell you so.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Now it's next guy.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Man, he's got ice in his veins.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
And if you don't believe it now you just wait. Man,
the best is yet to come.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
At just keeps getting a little better. The operation stuff
now took a few weeks. Accuracy stuff, A lot of
it was dropped yesterday when he rolled out right threw
a ball to the end zone that was out of bound.
DJ Moore couldn't get his feet down. That was forty yards.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
On a line. As they say, you could hang laundry
on that thing. It was just forty.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yards a line drive off the yard of Caleb Williams.
You were like, Okay, that doesn't look like almost anybody
else in the league. I'm not sure Mahomes has that
in that win. So he is a special talent. Okay,
I've been on this for a long time. I prefer
offensive coaches, especially with young quarterbacks as.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
You're learning the game.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Sean Payton, Andy Reid, I think it's really valuable now
now you don't have to have that Mike Rabel defensive guy. Right,
Drake may is flourishing. But Josh McDaniel great coordinator. But
I'm watching Buffalo. I got nothing against Sean McDermott. But
the Bills are two and three in their last five games,
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blowout loss to Miami and lost to Atlanta. Right now
they have the same amount of wins as San Francisco.
That's running out of players and only one more than Carolina.
And here's my thing with Sean McDermott. Something's always leaking
and it takes him an entire off season to figure
it out. You don't have an off season. You're wasting
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Josh Allen's prime. The running game took years to solve.
Now the passing game, well, I have to wait until
next year to solve it. I mean, Justin Herbert doesn't
have his tackles or his number one running back, and
Jim Harbaugh's got him in a three game winning streak.
Their offensive line is atrocious. Three game winning streak. San
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Francisco has Mac Jones quarterbacking, the receivers aren't healthy.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Where's that uk? Where's rookie pearsoll? Mack Jones?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yesterday went thirty three to thirty nine. Buffalo has been
mostly healthy, schedule thirty easiest in the league, and yet
they don't have a They have one win over a
team of the winning record. So in their three losses
they've averaged fifteen points With Josh Allen and James Cook.
How is that possible? And that's my knock on defensive
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head coaches. They can't solve offensive issues in season. They
need their GM to solve it. Cross your finger hopefully
in the offseason. Andy Reid offensive line solves it in season.
Sean McVay running back, receiver, Pookah's hurt. Pookah's hurt. What
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do they do?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Four tight ends in London against the Jags.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Offensive coaches can solve problems with their unit and their
young quarterback, and they can do it in a week
or two. Running game for Buffalo took forever to solve.
The GM finally had to solve it the passing game.
Now it can't take this long to solve stuff With
James Cook and Josh Allen. I mean, John Elway had
a good coach and Dan Reeves he needed a better
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one than Mike Shanahan. And I mean, I got nothing
against McDermott, but watch the league as you get into
this time. I mean, Justin Herbert is working with backup
everything in the offensive line, number three running back forgettable
tight ends? Does he have a number one receiver? And
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they're in a three game winning streak. You just have
to solve stuff, right, You got to be a fix
it guy, you know, that's what you gotta do.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
That's what Shanahan could do and Dan Reeves couldn't.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And I mean Mike Rabel right now, second year quarterback,
no number one receiver, running back by committee, although I
like Trevon Henderson, which he played more. Tight ends are okay,
offensive line solid and they're on a seven game winning streak.
Sean Payton's on a seven game winning streak with bow Knicks.
Bo Nicks is having a horrible year.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
So my take is these offensive guys, you just can't
go on losing streak. She can't lose to Miami and
trail sixty to nothing at half when you have Josh
Allen can't do it and Sean McDermott. I just think, Josh,
at this point, I've seen enough. They'll make the playoffs.
They'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
New England's already better. New England's won seven straight games.
They go to Champa and control the game. They went
to Buffalo and control the Bills. Here's McDermott after.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
We do need to look, continue to turn over every
stone to figure out why this is happening. I feel
like it's happened quite a bit your year. This year's
probably is as much as I've been around. So you know,
I don't know if it's I don't know what it is.
I really don't so but we've got if We've got
to figure that piece out pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Here. So much of coaching is not having the answers,
it's finding them. It's solving the problems in season, week
to week, moving pieces. And I mean it's not all offense.
Yesterday the defense looked tired, gassed.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Maybe it was the heat.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
It's I'm just watching teams like Denver, which is getting
subpar up quarterback play. I'm watching the Chargers, who may
have the worst offensive line in three years and they
just keep winning. How is justin Herbert that much better
than Josh Allen. How's Frabel doing it? They don't have
a number one receiver, running back by committee, O line,
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solid schedules, tough, and they just keep going on the
road Buffalo Tampa, off of by Tampa and winning.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I think it's time.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I think you can't have to solve every issue in
the off season.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
It doesn't work that way.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I don't care if you're running a TV network, a
TV show, or a football tav I can't have an
off season to solve every problem, all right, Jay Matt
Colin Right, Colin wrong?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
I took one underdog all weekend.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It was Pittsburgh last night, and I gotta tell you,
Aaron looked old.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
Oh really, oh really, trying to elude Khalil Mack in
the end zone. Looked like an old guy falling down
the stairs. That was brutal for Aaron Rodgers. I mean
that was until that garbage time touchdown, Colin. That was
trending like one of the worst games of his NFL career. Yeah,
that's how bad he was. That's your guy, Aaron Rodgerson.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I still at a winning, blazing five, but that that hurt.
That that I went to bed unsettled. Let's just say that.
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Speaker 1 (13:05):
All Right, Adam Schefter just broke the story. Brian Dabole
has been fired New York Giants head coach. I think
it's idiotic. So this is what the New York Jets
did last year. The New York franchises don't know what
they're doing. So the Jets last year, let's fire the
best coach we have, Robert Sala.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
How it work embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
So the best coach the Giants have is Brian Dable,
who works really well with Jackson Dart. So you're gonna
let him walk out of the building and then you're
gonna have like the third or fourth best coach on
the staff takeover is the interim guy. And if he
wins a couple of games, every fan's gonna be going, hey.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
That's our guy.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Never fire the best coach on your staff, and if
you have to do it at the end of a season,
in the middle of a season, to fire Robert Sala,
the Jets went sideways in fifteen minutes. I mean it's
until yesterday. Sala was up for Coordinator of the Year.
They have no players left in San Francisco. So again,
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these New York franchises. I don't know if it's talk
radio that drives it, or the newspapers or the fans
or the media, but I mean, this is.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
The Jets a year ago.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
You're firing your best coach if you want to fire
him at the end of the year. That's fine, but
he has a really good relationship with the most important
person on your team, Jackson Dart.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Just like last year, Robert Sala great relationship with Sauce
Gardner and Quinnon Williams fired him, circled the drain. So
you know I would hire Dable as a coordinator in
fifteen minutes. Does he get another head coaching job? Possible?
I mean, maybe it's probable, but I've said before with
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Robert Sali, Robert Sala deserves a second crack. He's a
great defensive coach. He just got to get the offensive guy, right.
I think Dable's an excellent offensive coach. Neighbors isn't healthy,
Scataboo's not healthy, and they let and Cane. I guarantee
you here's why.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
They fired it.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Well, it's the fourth time we've led by ten, you know,
late in the game.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, but you don't have a running back.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
So it's hard when your quarterback who's athletic, gets dinged
up where he could run around and get first downs.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Instead, you go to old man.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Russell Wilson, who is not Jackson Dart at this point,
and you don't have Scataboo. So when you have these
ten point leads, what you want to do is run
the ball. That is the key, especially in November, late
October November football. Well, Scataboo's gone. So it is harder
when you have a lead to melk the clock and
eat the clock when you don't have Scataboo. And Jackson
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Dart gets banged up. So and coming up here this schedule,
green Bay at Detroit at New England. Let's see how
you do with an interim coach, and good luck. That's
the three toughest games in a row in the schedule.
Good luck. And for the record, if I would have
told you before the season started, let's say, let's say
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they beat the Raiders and they beat Washington and they
finish uh four and thirteen. If I would have told
you before the season, okay, listen, they finish four and
thirteen or five and twelve. But neighbors in Scataboo both
get hurt, and Jackson Dark plays really well with Brian Davil,
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you'd be like, y'all sign up for it. You had
no reasonable person looked at this schedule and thought, oh,
it's a nine win team or an eight win team,
we say I picked them for fourth and division I
think third or fourth. I mean, they weren't a playoff team.
So I always say this anytime my wife gets all
worked up about the kids. I'm like, well, would you
have signed up for this or.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
This or this? And the answer is usually yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's not as bad as you think.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
If I'd have told you Neighbors gets hurt, Andrew Thomas
in and out of the lineup, Scataboo gets hurt. Dallas
is better than everybo, he thinks. But Jackson Dart emerges
as a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
You to sign up for that.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
So these New York football teams are so absurdly reactionary.
You know, this is the Jets in a different uniform.
Good luck. And again, when you fire coaches mid season,
it's kind of humiliating, right. There are going to be
people that look at that job and like Jackson Dart
and they're like, yeah, I want to sign up for that.
I don't know if I want to sign up for that,
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You're going to go and hire a coordinator. I'll tell
you right now. If I was the New York Giants,
I can sit here and complain I'd hire Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
That's who I would go.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Hire Mike McCarthy with Aaron Rodgers, with Cooper Rush, with
Dak Prescott. Mike McCarthy's quarterbacks win and perform very well.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I would hire Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
The only advantage to firing Brian Dable is that you
can get on the phone this afternoon. I don't know
what are the rules in the NFL on coaches stuff.
There's probably some arcane rule he can't call before this
and that. I would just send messages through agents in
the right channels. Mike McCarthy's who we want. That's my solution.
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Don't get caught up because watch what happens. Some interim
guy goes out and wins three games, and every Giant
fans like that. Yeah, players respond to that guy. That's
my substitute teacher rule. Everybody loves the substitute teacher. Okay,
So thirteen seasons the Giants have one playoff win Brian
Dabele and Daniel Jones. Okay, so you can complain all
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you want. He got Daniel Jones to the playoffs and
Jackson Dark. He was the guy in the building that
loved Jackson Dart right, Like, there were a lot of naysayers,
myself included. We didn't like jack I was like, Jackson
Dart's the second round guy.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I said that.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I said, I've seen him with Lane Kiffen for a
couple of years. He's got talent, He's a draftable quarterback.
He's a second round guy.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Right now. He looks better than cam Ward.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
And the one guy that kept pounding his chest was
Brian Dabel.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
He was the one guy that's my guy. All right.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
The Giants interim head coach will be their sixth since
twenty sixteen. Ben mcadew spags Pat Shermer.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Joe Judge, Brian Babole. All right, you know this whole charade.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Now, I know you hate the Giants, so you probably
think this is the greatest day of all time.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
No, shockingly, I kind of agree with you because of
Jackson Dart's been so good here the media, it's like
the talking points came from high above. The owner is
like basically texting every media member, well, he started two
and eight each of the last three years. Like they
had one of the lowest win totals in the league
this year two years ago was the Daniel Jones injury.
I believe coming off the playoff here they're killing Dabo
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for blowing these leads. Collin with a rookie quarterback and
no skill position players, He's thrown at Darius Slayton and
Theo Johnson. They're building leads. The fact that he can't
hold him obviously not great. But you got a rookie quarterback.
I'm stunned because Colin. I'll be honest, what if the
next coach evaluates Dart and says, yeah, he looks okay,
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not not from my system, then you've got to restart
over at quarterback. It's not a given that Jackson Dart
is their franchise quarterback, but with Dables thinking.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
About this, So yesterday against the Bears on the road,
Scataboo's out, neighbors is out, Jackson Dart concussion out. And
because you couldn't win Cam Up Williams and that skill
group against Russell Wilson, and because you couldn't win on
the road in the snow, and people are talking about, well,
I remember that there's a situational play that all the
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Giant fans were complaining about.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Within one do you go fourth and one up seven
or do you kick the field to go, go to go,
do up two scores. I could barely get it out.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I hadn't sure.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Maybe you go for the touchdown there, But whatever I mean,
you're not firing the coach off that.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Hey, Colin, where's dable coaching next year? Is he a
head coach or an OC?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
He'll interview for the Dolphin job. Probably he's rougher than
Mike McDaniel. He's kind of Gruffy's the opposite of McDaniel.
Colin Wright, Colin wrong on the Monday next it's the hurt.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
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Speaker 1 (21:24):
Here we go our word two On a Monday, Matt
hasselback three to four minutes out the news of the day.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Just change.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Brian daball out fired, just like the Jets last year.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Firing the head coach middle.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Of the season, who happens to be the best coach
on the staff. Not what I would have done, but
it does give you a head start on the best
coach available on the market. Mike McCartney would be my guy.
Offensive guy. It's an offensive league. You can go to
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Kooper Rush, Aaron Rodgers, you can go to Dak Prescott.
I think he's a good B plus coach. You know,
would an a coach want that job? No, I got
news for eight coaches like Mike Frable. They don't want
the Jets of the Giants. He wanted to go back
to Robert Kraft. Jim Harbaugh is not leaving Michigan for
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the Jets or Giants. Sean Payton's not taking those jobs.
What happens in the NFL is the good coaches use
the Jets and the Giants, make sure everybody thinks they're interested.
Then they take the better job with the better owner.
But I wouldn't have fired Dave Ball.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
That's me.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I'll talk to Matt hassel back in a few minutes.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
But it is Monday. Colin Wright Colin wrong, And here we.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Go where Colin was right?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I said three years ago, I said, if Matt Stafford
ends his career like I think he's gonna end it,
you're gonna look at he and Aaron Rodgers and say
who is really better? Right now, he's the MVY last
two years, forty five touchdowns, ten interceptions, and Aaron looks
really old. Matt Stafford, with this coach, finally has a
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reasonable chance every Sunday to succeed. And right there's not
a better guy from the pocket in the NFL right
now than Matt Stafford of the La Rams.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I defended hiring seventy four year old Pete Carroll, but
Seattle's on fire since he left, and the Raiders are
getting progressively worse. He pursued Geno Smith that I don't
get Pete had a year off to reflect and modernize,
and I don't know. Nothing's working. I'm not expecting you
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to win eight games. Nothing looks good. The special teams,
the run game, the defense, none of it looks buttoned up.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Where Colin was right, the Niners are.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
What I thought they were, not as good as Seattle
to the Rams.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
That's why I picked him for third.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
People said to you out of your mind, and I said,
they're old, expensive and brittle. Old players get hurt more
and it takes longer for the old players to get back.
It's not Max Jones. Mac Jones is doing fine. Don't
don't don't blame mac Jones.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
That's not the issue.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
The issue is the forty nine ers are an old
football team, and you are seeing the results of that
very old football.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Team where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Now we can show the Michael Pennox video three straight
games completing less than sixty percent of his throws, and
I liked him out of college. In fact, he had
forty five career start So my takeaway was he's going
to be kind of ready to play boy. He misses,
and he misses badly a lot. So the last two
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weeks he's also one for eighteen on third down, so
he looks uncomfortable. He's skipping a lot of balls. It
doesn't look right, and I got to take a wrong
on this. It's like a JJ McCarthy. It just doesn't feel.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Like the right guy.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I said a couple of years ago, John Snyder is
as good as any personnel guy in the NFL, and
since he and Pete Carroll have separated and it is
now his roster, I think there's an argument this is
the best and fastest roster in the NFL. Turn the
sound down and watch the Seahawks. He also got a
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third round pick for Geno Smith.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Gmming he's also paying Sam Darnold less than Taysom Hill
makes as a cap hit. That is great GMing. Right now,
this roster is as good as any in the league.
And that's because the last two years John Snyder has
totally controlled personnel.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I said to Dallas Mavericks, I said, they're going to
make the Western Conference Finals. They are now the worst
shooting team in the second worst.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
In the league.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Offensively, they're brutal, they don't have a true point guard.
They don't really have a leader, maybe Kyrie Irving when
he comes back. They're very directionless. They're either too young
or kind of old. So the only team in the
league that's worst offensively is the Pacers.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Boy, did I miss on the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Where Colin was right?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Everybody bailed on Kaylan de Boor. Oh, Kaylan de Boor
is no Nick Saban. Well, he's beaten Georgia, Tennessee, LSU
Vandy in Missouri four straight ranked matchups that he's won.
And you know it takes even if you replace Nick Saban,
you got to build your own culture. And nobody's discussing
the truth is in the nil world. Bama doesn't have
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a lot of money. Ohio State's got better players than Alabama.
That's not particularly close. Last year Ohio State also had
better players, So they are not the Saban Crimson tide.
And Nick Saban saw that and he went to broadcasting.
So Calin de Boor they got Oklahoma, they'll win a
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directional school and then Auburn.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
He's going to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Where Colin was right, I worried about hiring two coordinators
in house. Dan Campbell admitted yesterday he took over the
play calling.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
He didn't do that with Ben Johnson.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
So when you hire in house and don't have a
global search, you may get a really good candidate, but
you're not getting the best candidates. I thought they played
it safe. They played it comfortable, and the NFL is
a league of discomfort. So and Dan Campbell soft sold it,
you know, I mean it was a collaborative effort. He
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took over play calling from the OC. That's not what
he wanted to do at the start of the season.
Colin Wright Colin Wrong.
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Speaker 3 (28:12):
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Speaker 1 (28:13):
Us after a wild, wild weekend for the two best quarterbacks,
Dante More and Fernando Mendoza. We'll get to that. We
will get to that. I want to I want to
start with the Brian Dable firing. What I don't like
about it is Jackson Dart is your guy. They have
a great relationship. Just let it play out. You're not
a playoff team. Let it play out for the year.
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Then you know, if it's Kafka, if it's Mike McCarthy, whatever,
your takeaway on firing a coach now with a very
sub optimal roster, Scataboo's hurt, neighbors can't stay healthy.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
What do you or you know?
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Matt Hasselbek said, bring Hofkin for six games, seven games, let.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Him trial run. Where do you land on that?
Speaker 7 (28:59):
Yeah, I think they need to get rid of everybody.
I don't love the fact that they fired Brian Dable
at this point in the season.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
You're two and eight.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
Normally, when coaches get fired in season it's because you
already know the guy that you want to go get
and you want to get ahead of that, or you're
thinking it's going to spark the team. This team is
out out of the playoffs essentially, like they're not going
to turn this around going if he did not on
the stretch and find a way to sneak in. So
I don't love that part of it. But what I
really hate is that they attached a rookie quarterback to
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a head coach and a GM that were on the
hot seat again. And I watched this with Chicago and
I brought this up, and I caught a lot of
flag for it, Colin, because I said that I didn't
think that the Bear should connect Caleb Williams to Matt Eberflus,
who was a head coach on the hot seat, because
then you put your young quarterback in a situation where
he's going to have his second head coach and his
second play caller in his second year.
Speaker 8 (29:51):
The biggest thing for young guys is stability.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
So now you sit here and I didn't know what
the Giants are doing in the offseason when they brought
in Russell Wilson and Jamis Winston and then went drafted
Jackson Dart.
Speaker 8 (30:04):
But here we are, so I.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
Think the only rightful decision for them to make now
is to go hire Lane Kiffin as head coach, because
that's the only guy that knows Jackson Dart better than
any other coach in the NFL and is going to
be able to get the best out of him to
where Dart isn't going to have to now go into
a new situation and learn a whole new terminology and
a whole new way of doing things.
Speaker 8 (30:25):
Kiffen knows him better than anybody.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Also, you know why that's a great idea. I had
keiffn in Miami, but Lane's been a head coach usc
Ole miss NFL. When you try to go it's hard
to be a head coach, to go to New York
and be a first time head coach, I mean the
talk radio, it's the fans.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
It's hard. So that that is really that's a great idea.
I want to ask.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
You, Caleb has been the opposite of JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Caleb's great late j JJ.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
On the first drive you what is your takeaway on
Caleb's performance during this winning streak? Kind of it unlocked
later in the game, are you okay with that?
Speaker 7 (31:14):
I am okay with it because it's really about Caleb
and Ben Johnson finding a way to win. And you know,
I listen to what all these guys say because you
can hear how they really feel in what they're saying.
After the games, and Caleb Williams talked about Ben Johnson
and he said, you know what, we're like a two
punch tandem. And the trust of the guys in the
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locker room and the coaching staff has been a real
big thing for them. He talked about how Ben Johnson's
information that he's providing him and giving him helping him
in preparation has gone a long way with him to
be effective at the end of games. And what that
is to say is if you remember last year, there's
the article came out about how Matti Ebraflus and the
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staff weren't really teaching Caleb Williams how to study in
the end, how to break down NFL defenses and how
to do those different things. He's getting that now from
Ben Johnson, and it makes it to where he trusts
what he sees when he's on the field. Sometimes when
you go into an environment that you don't really know Colin,
and you don't really know what you're supposed to be seeing.
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It's really hard to pull that trigger. Caleb is doing that,
especially in critical moments. So I really believe that him
and Ben Johnson are winning. And I know that the
teams that they've beat over the last six weeks then
they've won six of the last seven, have a combined
record of fifteen thirty three and one.
Speaker 8 (32:33):
But in the NFL, you never apologize for winning games,
and winning games is really hard.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
So they're building their relationship by winning the games in
front of them.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
And I couldn't be happier for him.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I said earlier today, I said, I figured out every
team in the league. It took me ten weeks except Pittsburgh.
I don't know what I get. I don't know what
I get week to week, half to half, clawber, New
England drop, the Colts lost to the Bengals, blown out
by the Chargers Green Bay. If you've ever been on
a team, usually you get a sense what a team is.
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Now everybody has a stinger, but you kind of get
a sense of what a team is. What does it
tell you that Pittsburgh week to week is a totally
different team?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Energy, focus, production, performance.
Speaker 7 (33:21):
Why yeah, Colin, this is the first time I've ever
felt like the Pittsburgh Steelers don't have an identity.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Why right.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
Normally, when you think of the Steelers, you think they're
gonna run the football and they're gonna play great defense. Well,
they can't run the football, and on defense, they're ranked
thirtieth in the NFL against the pass, so their defense
isn't great. They don't have a consistent identity week in
and week out, and part of me thinks it is
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because there might be a little bit of conflict in
the play calling. I watched them on fourth and goal
and Aaron Rodgers through that back shoulder fade or what
looked like a fade to DK Metcalf, and it looked
like he said signaled that to him, or was a
decision that he made. But he had Pat Fryermuth coming
wide open right around the first down marker, which would
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have put them at first in goal.
Speaker 8 (34:14):
But he didn't go there.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
And when I watched some of the tags that they run,
Rogers notorious for adding tags to run plays and being
able to have the flexibility to do what he wants
in those situations. I don't know if there's a complete
trust there between Arthur Smith and Aaron Rodgers when it
comes to the play calling and how they're executing the offense.
And that's a problem because Rogers said he needs to
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play better.
Speaker 8 (34:37):
He knows that he's a Hall of famer. They brought
him in there to steady the ship.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
But if they don't have an identity offensively on how
they're going to attack defenses weekend and week out, they
can never build on anything.
Speaker 8 (34:48):
And that's why they're having so much inconsistency.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
That's why we bring you on the show. That was
really good.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I got to ask you to college things because you
were a Heisman winner. There're certainly an argument all these
guys should come back. But I'm watching Mendoza make those
throws on that last drive on the road, Robert, those
are Sunday throws.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
That kid is a big kid.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
With a big arm, and if you're going to be
the number one pick, you probably got to come out.
And then Dante more in Terrible Iowa Weather is making
a throw out the right sideline. You're like, just let's talk.
Let's talk both those guys. I think you have to
come out if you're the first or second pick.
Speaker 8 (35:30):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Let's talk Mendoza first and then Dante Moore. What do
you see from those two?
Speaker 7 (35:37):
Yeah, first thing I see from Fernando Mendoza is his
ability to command a room, Like when this guy talks,
you know, I think this past weekend he said I'm
willing to die on the field for my teammates. Okay,
Well tell me an offensive lineman or a coach or
a GM that's not going to hear that and be like, I.
Speaker 8 (35:52):
Don't want that guy.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
They would all want that guy because he seems to
be all about ball, and I was. The drive was
super impressive in his ability to make those big time
NFL throws a pressure in his face, But I was
even more impressed with the last one for the touchdown.
I know it was an amazing catch by Omar Cooper Junior,
but the fact that Mendoza made that throw in that
(36:14):
moment literally getting you know, his face knocked off and
just gets up and walks off like it's nothing. That
to me, it was his Heisman moment one hundred percent.
But it was also the moment that every NFL scout
is going to look at and say, that's my quarterback.
Speaker 8 (36:30):
Yeah, he's got all the measureables. He's got all the intangibles.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, and Dante Moore played in lousy weather. He moves better,
ye he to me, he again, he's just slick.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
He moved.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
He is a twenty twenty five NFL quarterback and he's
supposed to be the nicest, most humble kid.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
What do you see with him?
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (36:50):
I think for Dante Moore, it's everything that Mendoza has
that that that Dante doesn't he makes up for with
his playmaking ability. I think Mendoza's got the big arm,
the big body, the frame, and he's and he's got
the toughness. Dante's got all that and a little bit
of a smaller package. But when I watch him throw,
because I'm calling their game this week with Jason Bennetti
(37:12):
in a Lex Atlantis stoy against Minnesota, when you watch him.
Speaker 8 (37:16):
Throw, it's just like the ball always gets to the
right place.
Speaker 7 (37:19):
And I'm gonna say this and maybe people when I
get mad at me about it, but he reminds me
of if you put Dylan Gabriel and Sear Sanders in
the same.
Speaker 8 (37:26):
Body, that that is what he has.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
Because for Dylan Gabriel there in Cleveland, right now there's
a little bit of like what's missing. I think Dante
has that he has that special playmaking ability inside of
him and he doesn't unleash it all the time. But
you saw it on like a forty yard run against
Iowa this past weekend.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
By the way, you've been joined by somebody behind you
the couch. Who is the uh.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
It's one of your one of your slot receivers.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Two year old Gia come out here.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Come on, come on, Ga, come on.
Speaker 7 (37:57):
Yeah, she's over there with the funk oh pop. She's
having a good time.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
That is awesome. Hey, great stuff is always my man.
Thank you, Robert
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Here we go on a Monday.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
You know, I'm trying to get management to give us
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One hour from now. Jmak I woke up little icing
on the cape in Chicago put.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Me in a mood for fall and winter.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
So there's this one question Jy Mack, as we start
our show today, the eternal question with the Chicago Bears
and the guys up north, the Green Bay Packers always
have an answer in Chicago, never does the Eternal question
for the Chicago Bears is why can't we figure quarterback out?
I think you have now, ironically, it's the defense that
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is hurting you.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
So let's talk Bears.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Not having a spy against Jackson Dart made no sense.
The Giants don't have neighbors, scatter Boot. The weather was bad.
How do you not have a spy against Jackson Dart?
Bad coordinating by Dennis Allen. But the story of the
day was again a fourth quarter comeback, another one by
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Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
And this is the thing.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Jackson darts young and athletic, but for the fourth time
in seven starts, Jackson darts in the concussion.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Protocol tent.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
And Caleb never is two things that have always been
true about Kleb Williams really durable, doesn't get hurt, and
he doesn't throw picks.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Let me add a third.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
He's clutch and I don't know how to define it.
I always felt this about Joe Burrow. I don't really
know how to define it. I want to ask Jimmy Johnson,
Troy Aikman's a great leader, can you define it? He
goes no, not really is no when you see it.
And that's what clutch is. If you start looking at
Caleb Williams fourth quarter numbers in the four game winning drives,
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his passer rating is like one forty five. He's a
better quarterback under duress, trailing. He's an unbelievable game winning
drive fourth quarter quarterback. By the way, Botnick's pretty good too,
but this feels different. So his receive were struggling, it
was cold, and multiple times, even on some incompletions, Caleb
(03:06):
would roll right and show off that arm. I'm not
sure is there a better arm in the league. I
think he holds the ball too long, but I think
that's born at a confidence that you can't sack him
with one body. You've got to get multiple people on him.
He's just too big. He's just too.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Strong, incredibly durable.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And we always talk about, you know, quarterbacks, what they
can do, but a lot of success. Remember Belichick talked
about Tom Brady his favorite asset, no negative plays, always
plays ahead of the sticks.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
And that's one of the things about Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Now he's not taking the sacks and he's never thrown
a lot of interceptions, so he's not taking those negative plays.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
So much about quarterback isn't what you do. It's what
you don't do.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
You don't run backwards and scramble and get behind the sticks.
So I think it's official. He's still growing. But the
Chicago Bears have their first great quarterback. They've had good ones,
Rex Grozeman in a couple good years. Jay Cutler was good.
None of them were great and I mean only three penalties.
So they've gotten the operational part, which was very clunky
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early is for a lot of young quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
They've cleaned that up.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
They were three or four in the red zone, hardest
place to score. So we knew Ben Johnson Hurley was
the right fit, and now Caleb's the right fit for
Ben Johnson.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Slowly working together.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So you watch the Bears offense, head coach, quarterback, weapons,
red zone efficiency.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
This is what green Bay has been doing.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
You know about nowur train right up north for thirty
plus years. Now green Bay is trying to solve their offense.
In Chicago's got their solt so again, fourth quarter rallies.
It doesn't matter what it looks like. Listen, it's cold,
it's windy. I think Chicago Bear receivers had six drops.
I mean he throws hard, John elways wide, receivers used
(05:00):
to complain about this, like.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Caleb, he's got a cannon.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
He throws hard and sometimes you guys are gonna drop it.
But don't worry about the aesthetic and the optics. Fourth quarter,
they won. That's all that mattered. And here was Ben
Johnson with his star quarterback after the game.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Let me tell you so.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Now it's next guy.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Man, he's got ice in his veins.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
And if you don't believe it now you just wait. Man,
the best is yet to come.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
At just keeps getting a little better. The operation stuff
now took a few weeks. Accuracy stuff, A lot of
it was dropped yesterday when he rolled out right threw
a ball to the end zone that was out of bound.
DJ Moore couldn't get his feet down. That was forty yards.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
On a line. As they say, you could hang laundry
on that thing. It was just forty.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yards a line drive off the yard of Caleb Williams.
You were like, Okay, that doesn't look like almost anybody
else in the league. I'm not sure Mahomes has that
in that win. So he is a special talent. Okay,
I've been on this for a long time. I prefer
offensive coaches, especially with young quarterbacks as.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
You're learning the game.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Sean Payton, Andy Reid, I think it's really valuable now
now you don't have to have that Mike Rabel defensive guy. Right,
Drake may is flourishing. But Josh McDaniel great coordinator. But
I'm watching Buffalo. I got nothing against Sean McDermott. But
the Bills are two and three in their last five games,
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blowout loss to Miami and lost to Atlanta. Right now
they have the same amount of wins as San Francisco.
That's running out of players and only one more than Carolina.
And here's my thing with Sean McDermott. Something's always leaking
and it takes him an entire off season to figure
it out. You don't have an off season. You're wasting
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Josh Allen's prime. The running game took years to solve.
Now the passing game, well, I have to wait until
next year to solve it. I mean, Justin Herbert doesn't
have his tackles or his number one running back, and
Jim Harbaugh's got him in a three game winning streak.
Their offensive line is atrocious. Three game winning streak. San
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Francisco has Mac Jones quarterbacking, the receivers aren't healthy.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Where's that uk? Where's rookie pearsoll? Mack Jones?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yesterday went thirty three to thirty nine. Buffalo has been
mostly healthy, schedule thirty easiest in the league, and yet
they don't have a They have one win over a
team of the winning record. So in their three losses
they've averaged fifteen points With Josh Allen and James Cook.
How is that possible? And that's my knock on defensive
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head coaches. They can't solve offensive issues in season. They
need their GM to solve it. Cross your finger hopefully
in the offseason. Andy Reid offensive line solves it in season.
Sean McVay running back, receiver, Pookah's hurt. Pookah's hurt. What
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do they do?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Four tight ends in London against the Jags.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Offensive coaches can solve problems with their unit and their
young quarterback, and they can do it in a week
or two. Running game for Buffalo took forever to solve.
The GM finally had to solve it the passing game.
Now it can't take this long to solve stuff With
James Cook and Josh Allen. I mean, John Elway had
a good coach and Dan Reeves he needed a better
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one than Mike Shanahan. And I mean, I got nothing
against McDermott, but watch the league as you get into
this time. I mean, Justin Herbert is working with backup
everything in the offensive line, number three running back forgettable
tight ends? Does he have a number one receiver? And
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they're in a three game winning streak. You just have
to solve stuff, right, You got to be a fix
it guy, you know, that's what you gotta do.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
That's what Shanahan could do and Dan Reeves couldn't.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And I mean Mike Rabel right now, second year quarterback,
no number one receiver, running back by committee, although I
like Trevon Henderson, which he played more. Tight ends are okay,
offensive line solid and they're on a seven game winning streak.
Sean Payton's on a seven game winning streak with bow Knicks.
Bo Nicks is having a horrible year.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
So my take is these offensive guys, you just can't
go on losing streak. She can't lose to Miami and
trail sixty to nothing at half when you have Josh
Allen can't do it and Sean McDermott. I just think, Josh,
at this point, I've seen enough. They'll make the playoffs.
They'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
New England's already better. New England's won seven straight games.
They go to Champa and control the game. They went
to Buffalo and control the Bills. Here's McDermott after.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
We do need to look, continue to turn over every
stone to figure out why this is happening. I feel
like it's happened quite a bit your year. This year's
probably is as much as I've been around. So you know,
I don't know if it's I don't know what it is.
I really don't so but we've got if We've got
to figure that piece out pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Here. So much of coaching is not having the answers,
it's finding them. It's solving the problems in season, week
to week, moving pieces. And I mean it's not all offense.
Yesterday the defense looked tired, gassed.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Maybe it was the heat.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
It's I'm just watching teams like Denver, which is getting
subpar up quarterback play. I'm watching the Chargers, who may
have the worst offensive line in three years and they
just keep winning. How is justin Herbert that much better
than Josh Allen. How's Frabel doing it? They don't have
a number one receiver, running back by committee, O line,
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solid schedules, tough, and they just keep going on the
road Buffalo Tampa, off of by Tampa and winning.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I think it's time.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I think you can't have to solve every issue in
the off season.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
It doesn't work that way.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I don't care if you're running a TV network, a
TV show, or a football tav I can't have an
off season to solve every problem, all right, Jay Matt
Colin Right, Colin wrong?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
I took one underdog all weekend.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It was Pittsburgh last night, and I gotta tell you,
Aaron looked old.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
Oh really, oh really, trying to elude Khalil Mack in
the end zone. Looked like an old guy falling down
the stairs. That was brutal for Aaron Rodgers. I mean
that was until that garbage time touchdown, Colin. That was
trending like one of the worst games of his NFL career. Yeah,
that's how bad he was. That's your guy, Aaron Rodgerson.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I still at a winning, blazing five, but that that hurt.
That that I went to bed unsettled. Let's just say that.
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Speaker 1 (13:05):
All Right, Adam Schefter just broke the story. Brian Dabole
has been fired New York Giants head coach. I think
it's idiotic. So this is what the New York Jets
did last year. The New York franchises don't know what
they're doing. So the Jets last year, let's fire the
best coach we have, Robert Sala.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
How it work embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
So the best coach the Giants have is Brian Dable,
who works really well with Jackson Dart. So you're gonna
let him walk out of the building and then you're
gonna have like the third or fourth best coach on
the staff takeover is the interim guy. And if he
wins a couple of games, every fan's gonna be going, hey.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
That's our guy.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Never fire the best coach on your staff, and if
you have to do it at the end of a season,
in the middle of a season, to fire Robert Sala,
the Jets went sideways in fifteen minutes. I mean it's
until yesterday. Sala was up for Coordinator of the Year.
They have no players left in San Francisco. So again,
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these New York franchises. I don't know if it's talk
radio that drives it, or the newspapers or the fans
or the media, but I mean, this is.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
The Jets a year ago.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
You're firing your best coach if you want to fire
him at the end of the year. That's fine, but
he has a really good relationship with the most important
person on your team, Jackson Dart.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Just like last year, Robert Sala great relationship with Sauce
Gardner and Quinnon Williams fired him, circled the drain. So
you know I would hire Dable as a coordinator in
fifteen minutes. Does he get another head coaching job? Possible?
I mean, maybe it's probable, but I've said before with
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Robert Sali, Robert Sala deserves a second crack. He's a
great defensive coach. He just got to get the offensive guy, right.
I think Dable's an excellent offensive coach. Neighbors isn't healthy,
Scataboo's not healthy, and they let and Cane. I guarantee
you here's why.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
They fired it.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Well, it's the fourth time we've led by ten, you know,
late in the game.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, but you don't have a running back.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
So it's hard when your quarterback who's athletic, gets dinged
up where he could run around and get first downs.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Instead, you go to old man.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Russell Wilson, who is not Jackson Dart at this point,
and you don't have Scataboo. So when you have these
ten point leads, what you want to do is run
the ball. That is the key, especially in November, late
October November football. Well, Scataboo's gone. So it is harder
when you have a lead to melk the clock and
eat the clock when you don't have Scataboo. And Jackson
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Dart gets banged up. So and coming up here this schedule,
green Bay at Detroit at New England. Let's see how
you do with an interim coach, and good luck. That's
the three toughest games in a row in the schedule.
Good luck. And for the record, if I would have
told you before the season started, let's say, let's say
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they beat the Raiders and they beat Washington and they
finish uh four and thirteen. If I would have told
you before the season, okay, listen, they finish four and
thirteen or five and twelve. But neighbors in Scataboo both
get hurt, and Jackson Dark plays really well with Brian Davil,
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you'd be like, y'all sign up for it. You had
no reasonable person looked at this schedule and thought, oh,
it's a nine win team or an eight win team,
we say I picked them for fourth and division I
think third or fourth. I mean, they weren't a playoff team.
So I always say this anytime my wife gets all
worked up about the kids. I'm like, well, would you
have signed up for this or.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
This or this? And the answer is usually yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's not as bad as you think.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
If I'd have told you Neighbors gets hurt, Andrew Thomas
in and out of the lineup, Scataboo gets hurt. Dallas
is better than everybo, he thinks. But Jackson Dart emerges
as a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
You to sign up for that.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
So these New York football teams are so absurdly reactionary.
You know, this is the Jets in a different uniform.
Good luck. And again, when you fire coaches mid season,
it's kind of humiliating, right. There are going to be
people that look at that job and like Jackson Dart
and they're like, yeah, I want to sign up for that.
I don't know if I want to sign up for that,
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You're going to go and hire a coordinator. I'll tell
you right now. If I was the New York Giants,
I can sit here and complain I'd hire Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
That's who I would go.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Hire Mike McCarthy with Aaron Rodgers, with Cooper Rush, with
Dak Prescott. Mike McCarthy's quarterbacks win and perform very well.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I would hire Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
The only advantage to firing Brian Dable is that you
can get on the phone this afternoon. I don't know
what are the rules in the NFL on coaches stuff.
There's probably some arcane rule he can't call before this
and that. I would just send messages through agents in
the right channels. Mike McCarthy's who we want. That's my solution.
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Don't get caught up because watch what happens. Some interim
guy goes out and wins three games, and every Giant
fans like that. Yeah, players respond to that guy. That's
my substitute teacher rule. Everybody loves the substitute teacher. Okay,
So thirteen seasons the Giants have one playoff win Brian
Dabele and Daniel Jones. Okay, so you can complain all
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you want. He got Daniel Jones to the playoffs and
Jackson Dark. He was the guy in the building that
loved Jackson Dart right, Like, there were a lot of naysayers,
myself included. We didn't like jack I was like, Jackson
Dart's the second round guy.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I said that.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I said, I've seen him with Lane Kiffen for a
couple of years. He's got talent, He's a draftable quarterback.
He's a second round guy.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Right now. He looks better than cam Ward.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
And the one guy that kept pounding his chest was
Brian Dabel.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
He was the one guy that's my guy. All right.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
The Giants interim head coach will be their sixth since
twenty sixteen. Ben mcadew spags Pat Shermer.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Joe Judge, Brian Babole. All right, you know this whole charade.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Now, I know you hate the Giants, so you probably
think this is the greatest day of all time.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
No, shockingly, I kind of agree with you because of
Jackson Dart's been so good here the media, it's like
the talking points came from high above. The owner is
like basically texting every media member, well, he started two
and eight each of the last three years. Like they
had one of the lowest win totals in the league
this year two years ago was the Daniel Jones injury.
I believe coming off the playoff here they're killing Dabo
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for blowing these leads. Collin with a rookie quarterback and
no skill position players, He's thrown at Darius Slayton and
Theo Johnson. They're building leads. The fact that he can't
hold him obviously not great. But you got a rookie quarterback.
I'm stunned because Colin. I'll be honest, what if the
next coach evaluates Dart and says, yeah, he looks okay,
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not not from my system, then you've got to restart
over at quarterback. It's not a given that Jackson Dart
is their franchise quarterback, but with Dables thinking.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
About this, So yesterday against the Bears on the road,
Scataboo's out, neighbors is out, Jackson Dart concussion out. And
because you couldn't win Cam Up Williams and that skill
group against Russell Wilson, and because you couldn't win on
the road in the snow, and people are talking about, well,
I remember that there's a situational play that all the
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Giant fans were complaining about.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Within one do you go fourth and one up seven
or do you kick the field to go, go to go,
do up two scores. I could barely get it out.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I hadn't sure.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Maybe you go for the touchdown there, But whatever I mean,
you're not firing the coach off that.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Hey, Colin, where's dable coaching next year? Is he a
head coach or an OC?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
He'll interview for the Dolphin job. Probably he's rougher than
Mike McDaniel. He's kind of Gruffy's the opposite of McDaniel.
Colin Wright, Colin wrong on the Monday next it's the hurt.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
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Speaker 1 (21:24):
Here we go our word two On a Monday, Matt
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Speaker 3 (21:33):
Just change.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Brian daball out fired, just like the Jets last year.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Firing the head coach middle.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Of the season, who happens to be the best coach
on the staff. Not what I would have done, but
it does give you a head start on the best
coach available on the market. Mike McCartney would be my guy.
Offensive guy. It's an offensive league. You can go to
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Kooper Rush, Aaron Rodgers, you can go to Dak Prescott.
I think he's a good B plus coach. You know,
would an a coach want that job? No, I got
news for eight coaches like Mike Frable. They don't want
the Jets of the Giants. He wanted to go back
to Robert Kraft. Jim Harbaugh is not leaving Michigan for
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the Jets or Giants. Sean Payton's not taking those jobs.
What happens in the NFL is the good coaches use
the Jets and the Giants, make sure everybody thinks they're interested.
Then they take the better job with the better owner.
But I wouldn't have fired Dave Ball.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
That's me.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I'll talk to Matt hassel back in a few minutes.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
But it is Monday. Colin Wright Colin wrong, And here we.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Go where Colin was right?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I said three years ago, I said, if Matt Stafford
ends his career like I think he's gonna end it,
you're gonna look at he and Aaron Rodgers and say
who is really better? Right now, he's the MVY last
two years, forty five touchdowns, ten interceptions, and Aaron looks
really old. Matt Stafford, with this coach, finally has a
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reasonable chance every Sunday to succeed. And right there's not
a better guy from the pocket in the NFL right
now than Matt Stafford of the La Rams.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I defended hiring seventy four year old Pete Carroll, but
Seattle's on fire since he left, and the Raiders are
getting progressively worse. He pursued Geno Smith that I don't
get Pete had a year off to reflect and modernize,
and I don't know. Nothing's working. I'm not expecting you
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to win eight games. Nothing looks good. The special teams,
the run game, the defense, none of it looks buttoned up.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Where Colin was right, the Niners are.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
What I thought they were, not as good as Seattle
to the Rams.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
That's why I picked him for third.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
People said to you out of your mind, and I said,
they're old, expensive and brittle. Old players get hurt more
and it takes longer for the old players to get back.
It's not Max Jones. Mac Jones is doing fine. Don't
don't don't blame mac Jones.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
That's not the issue.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
The issue is the forty nine ers are an old
football team, and you are seeing the results of that
very old football.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Team where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Now we can show the Michael Pennox video three straight
games completing less than sixty percent of his throws, and
I liked him out of college. In fact, he had
forty five career start So my takeaway was he's going
to be kind of ready to play boy. He misses,
and he misses badly a lot. So the last two
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weeks he's also one for eighteen on third down, so
he looks uncomfortable. He's skipping a lot of balls. It
doesn't look right, and I got to take a wrong
on this. It's like a JJ McCarthy. It just doesn't feel.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Like the right guy.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I said a couple of years ago, John Snyder is
as good as any personnel guy in the NFL, and
since he and Pete Carroll have separated and it is
now his roster, I think there's an argument this is
the best and fastest roster in the NFL. Turn the
sound down and watch the Seahawks. He also got a
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third round pick for Geno Smith.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Gmming he's also paying Sam Darnold less than Taysom Hill
makes as a cap hit. That is great GMing. Right now,
this roster is as good as any in the league.
And that's because the last two years John Snyder has
totally controlled personnel.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I said to Dallas Mavericks, I said, they're going to
make the Western Conference Finals. They are now the worst
shooting team in the second worst.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
In the league.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Offensively, they're brutal, they don't have a true point guard.
They don't really have a leader, maybe Kyrie Irving when
he comes back. They're very directionless. They're either too young
or kind of old. So the only team in the
league that's worst offensively is the Pacers.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Boy, did I miss on the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Where Colin was right?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Everybody bailed on Kaylan de Boor. Oh, Kaylan de Boor
is no Nick Saban. Well, he's beaten Georgia, Tennessee, LSU
Vandy in Missouri four straight ranked matchups that he's won.
And you know it takes even if you replace Nick Saban,
you got to build your own culture. And nobody's discussing
the truth is in the nil world. Bama doesn't have
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a lot of money. Ohio State's got better players than Alabama.
That's not particularly close. Last year Ohio State also had
better players, So they are not the Saban Crimson tide.
And Nick Saban saw that and he went to broadcasting.
So Calin de Boor they got Oklahoma, they'll win a
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directional school and then Auburn.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
He's going to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Where Colin was right, I worried about hiring two coordinators
in house. Dan Campbell admitted yesterday he took over the
play calling.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
He didn't do that with Ben Johnson.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
So when you hire in house and don't have a
global search, you may get a really good candidate, but
you're not getting the best candidates. I thought they played
it safe. They played it comfortable, and the NFL is
a league of discomfort. So and Dan Campbell soft sold it,
you know, I mean it was a collaborative effort. He
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took over play calling from the OC. That's not what
he wanted to do at the start of the season.
Colin Wright Colin Wrong.
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Speaker 3 (28:12):
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Speaker 1 (28:13):
Us after a wild, wild weekend for the two best quarterbacks,
Dante More and Fernando Mendoza. We'll get to that. We
will get to that. I want to I want to
start with the Brian Dable firing. What I don't like
about it is Jackson Dart is your guy. They have
a great relationship. Just let it play out. You're not
a playoff team. Let it play out for the year.
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Then you know, if it's Kafka, if it's Mike McCarthy, whatever,
your takeaway on firing a coach now with a very
sub optimal roster, Scataboo's hurt, neighbors can't stay healthy.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
What do you or you know?
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Matt Hasselbek said, bring Hofkin for six games, seven games, let.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Him trial run. Where do you land on that?
Speaker 7 (28:59):
Yeah, I think they need to get rid of everybody.
I don't love the fact that they fired Brian Dable
at this point in the season.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
You're two and eight.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
Normally, when coaches get fired in season it's because you
already know the guy that you want to go get
and you want to get ahead of that, or you're
thinking it's going to spark the team. This team is
out out of the playoffs essentially, like they're not going
to turn this around going if he did not on
the stretch and find a way to sneak in. So
I don't love that part of it. But what I
really hate is that they attached a rookie quarterback to
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a head coach and a GM that were on the
hot seat again. And I watched this with Chicago and
I brought this up, and I caught a lot of
flag for it, Colin, because I said that I didn't
think that the Bear should connect Caleb Williams to Matt Eberflus,
who was a head coach on the hot seat, because
then you put your young quarterback in a situation where
he's going to have his second head coach and his
second play caller in his second year.
Speaker 8 (29:51):
The biggest thing for young guys is stability.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
So now you sit here and I didn't know what
the Giants are doing in the offseason when they brought
in Russell Wilson and Jamis Winston and then went drafted
Jackson Dart.
Speaker 8 (30:04):
But here we are, so I.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
Think the only rightful decision for them to make now
is to go hire Lane Kiffin as head coach, because
that's the only guy that knows Jackson Dart better than
any other coach in the NFL and is going to
be able to get the best out of him to
where Dart isn't going to have to now go into
a new situation and learn a whole new terminology and
a whole new way of doing things.
Speaker 8 (30:25):
Kiffen knows him better than anybody.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Also, you know why that's a great idea. I had
keiffn in Miami, but Lane's been a head coach usc
Ole miss NFL. When you try to go it's hard
to be a head coach, to go to New York
and be a first time head coach, I mean the
talk radio, it's the fans.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
It's hard. So that that is really that's a great idea.
I want to ask.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
You, Caleb has been the opposite of JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Caleb's great late j JJ.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
On the first drive you what is your takeaway on
Caleb's performance during this winning streak? Kind of it unlocked
later in the game, are you okay with that?
Speaker 7 (31:14):
I am okay with it because it's really about Caleb
and Ben Johnson finding a way to win. And you know,
I listen to what all these guys say because you
can hear how they really feel in what they're saying.
After the games, and Caleb Williams talked about Ben Johnson
and he said, you know what, we're like a two
punch tandem. And the trust of the guys in the
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locker room and the coaching staff has been a real
big thing for them. He talked about how Ben Johnson's
information that he's providing him and giving him helping him
in preparation has gone a long way with him to
be effective at the end of games. And what that
is to say is if you remember last year, there's
the article came out about how Matti Ebraflus and the
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staff weren't really teaching Caleb Williams how to study in
the end, how to break down NFL defenses and how
to do those different things. He's getting that now from
Ben Johnson, and it makes it to where he trusts
what he sees when he's on the field. Sometimes when
you go into an environment that you don't really know Colin,
and you don't really know what you're supposed to be seeing.
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It's really hard to pull that trigger. Caleb is doing that,
especially in critical moments. So I really believe that him
and Ben Johnson are winning. And I know that the
teams that they've beat over the last six weeks then
they've won six of the last seven, have a combined
record of fifteen thirty three and one.
Speaker 8 (32:33):
But in the NFL, you never apologize for winning games,
and winning games is really hard.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
So they're building their relationship by winning the games in
front of them.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
And I couldn't be happier for him.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I said earlier today, I said, I figured out every
team in the league. It took me ten weeks except Pittsburgh.
I don't know what I get. I don't know what
I get week to week, half to half, clawber, New
England drop, the Colts lost to the Bengals, blown out
by the Chargers Green Bay. If you've ever been on
a team, usually you get a sense what a team is.
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Now everybody has a stinger, but you kind of get
a sense of what a team is. What does it
tell you that Pittsburgh week to week is a totally
different team?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Energy, focus, production, performance.
Speaker 7 (33:21):
Why yeah, Colin, this is the first time I've ever
felt like the Pittsburgh Steelers don't have an identity.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Why right.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
Normally, when you think of the Steelers, you think they're
gonna run the football and they're gonna play great defense. Well,
they can't run the football, and on defense, they're ranked
thirtieth in the NFL against the pass, so their defense
isn't great. They don't have a consistent identity week in
and week out, and part of me thinks it is
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because there might be a little bit of conflict in
the play calling. I watched them on fourth and goal
and Aaron Rodgers through that back shoulder fade or what
looked like a fade to DK Metcalf, and it looked
like he said signaled that to him, or was a
decision that he made. But he had Pat Fryermuth coming
wide open right around the first down marker, which would
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have put them at first in goal.
Speaker 8 (34:14):
But he didn't go there.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
And when I watched some of the tags that they run,
Rogers notorious for adding tags to run plays and being
able to have the flexibility to do what he wants
in those situations. I don't know if there's a complete
trust there between Arthur Smith and Aaron Rodgers when it
comes to the play calling and how they're executing the offense.
And that's a problem because Rogers said he needs to
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play better.
Speaker 8 (34:37):
He knows that he's a Hall of famer. They brought
him in there to steady the ship.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
But if they don't have an identity offensively on how
they're going to attack defenses weekend and week out, they
can never build on anything.
Speaker 8 (34:48):
And that's why they're having so much inconsistency.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
That's why we bring you on the show. That was
really good.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I got to ask you to college things because you
were a Heisman winner. There're certainly an argument all these
guys should come back. But I'm watching Mendoza make those
throws on that last drive on the road, Robert, those
are Sunday throws.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
That kid is a big kid.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
With a big arm, and if you're going to be
the number one pick, you probably got to come out.
And then Dante more in Terrible Iowa Weather is making
a throw out the right sideline. You're like, just let's talk.
Let's talk both those guys. I think you have to
come out if you're the first or second pick.
Speaker 8 (35:30):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Let's talk Mendoza first and then Dante Moore. What do
you see from those two?
Speaker 7 (35:37):
Yeah, first thing I see from Fernando Mendoza is his
ability to command a room, Like when this guy talks,
you know, I think this past weekend he said I'm
willing to die on the field for my teammates. Okay,
Well tell me an offensive lineman or a coach or
a GM that's not going to hear that and be like, I.
Speaker 8 (35:52):
Don't want that guy.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
They would all want that guy because he seems to
be all about ball, and I was. The drive was
super impressive in his ability to make those big time
NFL throws a pressure in his face, But I was
even more impressed with the last one for the touchdown.
I know it was an amazing catch by Omar Cooper Junior,
but the fact that Mendoza made that throw in that
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moment literally getting you know, his face knocked off and
just gets up and walks off like it's nothing. That
to me, it was his Heisman moment one hundred percent.
But it was also the moment that every NFL scout
is going to look at and say, that's my quarterback.
Speaker 8 (36:30):
Yeah, he's got all the measureables. He's got all the intangibles.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, and Dante Moore played in lousy weather. He moves better,
ye he to me, he again, he's just slick.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
He moved.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
He is a twenty twenty five NFL quarterback and he's
supposed to be the nicest, most humble kid.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
What do you see with him?
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (36:50):
I think for Dante Moore, it's everything that Mendoza has
that that that Dante doesn't he makes up for with
his playmaking ability. I think Mendoza's got the big arm,
the big body, the frame, and he's and he's got
the toughness. Dante's got all that and a little bit
of a smaller package. But when I watch him throw,
because I'm calling their game this week with Jason Bennetti
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in a Lex Atlantis stoy against Minnesota, when you watch him.
Speaker 8 (37:16):
Throw, it's just like the ball always gets to the
right place.
Speaker 7 (37:19):
And I'm gonna say this and maybe people when I
get mad at me about it, but he reminds me
of if you put Dylan Gabriel and Sear Sanders in
the same.
Speaker 8 (37:26):
Body, that that is what he has.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
Because for Dylan Gabriel there in Cleveland, right now there's
a little bit of like what's missing. I think Dante
has that he has that special playmaking ability inside of
him and he doesn't unleash it all the time. But
you saw it on like a forty yard run against
Iowa this past weekend.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
By the way, you've been joined by somebody behind you
the couch. Who is the uh.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
It's one of your one of your slot receivers.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Two year old Gia come out here.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Come on, come on, Ga, come on.
Speaker 7 (37:57):
Yeah, she's over there with the funk oh pop. She's
having a good time.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
That is awesome. Hey, great stuff is always my man.
Thank you, Robert
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