December 2, 2025 • 36 mins
Colin Cowherd elevates Patriots QB Drake Maye into the elite quarterback conversation after another MVP-caliber performance in New England’s Monday Night Football win over the Giants. Colin also drops a fresh edition of the Herd Hierarchy, ranking the Top 10 NFL teams heading into week 14. Do last season’s Super Bowl contenders - the Eagles and Chiefs - still deserve a spot among the league’s best?
Plus, Los Angeles Chargers head coach Jim Harbaugh joins the show for an in-depth interview on the toughness and leadership of Justin Herbert, how the Chargers are building around their franchise QB, and what to expect in a crowded AFC playoff race
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Oh, it is a Tuesday show. Jim Harbass stopping by
Nick Right, stopping by hert Hierarchy. One hour from now.
Jackson dartboard, he got smoke last night. It's the Herber
in Chicago, little snow. Last night's football season. Officially, wherever
you may be and however you may be listening, thanks
(00:50):
for making us part of your day. So I mean,
I'm I watched the game last night. I think Jackson
Dart has a chance to be a fine franchise quarterback
for the New York John I mean, Eli Manning wasn't
even the best manning Son and he won two Super
Bowls in New York. I think Jackson Dart's gonna have
(01:11):
a fine career. Drake may it's a different discussion. He
looks like he's gonna be one of these guys about
every four years that enters the league and is an
all timer. Size arm iq. I mean, Drake May he
just doesn't miss. Even when he was missing in the
end zone, they were smart misses. Nobody else could get him.
Didn't have his left tackle, didn't have a left guard,
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doesn't have a number one wide receiver. They don't run
the ball particularly well. He had thirty points in the
first half. It was a show off flex game for
New England. That's been really good all season, but they
don't get many standalone games. And you know, one of
the rules when somebody's going to be great, they don't
necessarily make it look easy, but they make it look
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easier than it looks for ninety percent of the quarterbacks
in the league. Joe Burrow on third down, he doesn't
have a huge arm, he's not a giant guy, he's
not super mobile. It just always puts the ball in
the right place when he's healthy. You know, like it's
just great, looks a lot easier. I watched Michael Jordan
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for years. He wasn't the best ball handler, he wasn't
the strongest player, he didn't have the best long range,
just like seventeen feet away. He's gonnat stop him. And
the first year he was a little reckless, got hit
too often. Beginning of this year he wasn't quite there yet.
But I watched him the last four or five weeks.
I was sitting there waiting for his bubble to burst
(02:38):
a little bit, you know, sophomore slump. N He's getting
better every week. This is one of those guys that
checks all the boxes. Jackson Dart to me, feels like
he is still to some degree kind of winging it
and doesn't quite see the field as well as I'd
like him to see the field. Drake May, you're watching
it in real time, Stoic. Not a lot of bad
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throw was not getting hit. I mean it's only listen.
You get a franchise quarterback every year. You get an
old timer about every four or five years. I think
we found one. He is on pace to be the
greatest quarterback on first down in the history of the
game for a single season. Number two's Aaron Rodgers. Number
three his Drew Brees. And here's the thing. New England's
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offensive roster is still at least one draft class away.
They got to upgrade the old line upgrade. They need
more dynamic players at tight end and wide receiver. Their
run game again below average. So I and I know
watching them last night, I know anybody. I lived you
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know in New England territory for a decade, so I
watched every Patriot game during Brady Belichick, Robert Kraft, Josh McDaniels.
It's a very reminiscent team. There's a lot of do
your job efficiency, just like Belichick. Rabel's special teams are great,
and Josh McDaniel is designing the offense and play calling
(04:08):
craft still the owner. Rabel's a more player friendly version
of Belichick, and Drake May is a more mobile version
of Brady. Tall guy, smart guy, doesn't take a lot
of hits, doesn't make a lot of bad throws, super accurate.
It's very reminiscent, and it's almost like you ever have
a car you absolutely love and you eventually turn it in.
(04:30):
You still love it, but it's getting a little old.
You turn it in and you get a newer version,
same model. That's what New England is. Vrabel is Belichick
really cares about special teams. He's just more player friendly
and more current. And Drake May has a lot of
Brady accurate moves. Well doesn't take shots, not a lot
(04:50):
of picks. He's just a little, a little more mobile.
I'm getting I'm getting the new model of the car,
and I just I'm sure if I love the mustache
everything else. We say it all the time, when you
get the quarterback and the coach right, it just doesn't
take that long. There's so much mediocrity in every business.
(05:11):
Here's the other thing. They're ahead of schedule. Drake may
is two and a half years younger than Bo Nicks.
He's a year younger than Caleb Williams. He's two years
younger than Michael Pennix. He's a year and a half
younger than Jayden Daniels. He's younger than cam Ward and
he's easily the best of that group, the most accurate
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of that group, the most poised of that group. Well, talent,
Talent is just part of the boxes you have to check.
So there, I mean, I watch him something I look
for all the time. Even his misses are smart, like
those throws in the back of the end zone. He
had a deep ball, only one guy was going to
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catch it at Patriot he didn't get it. Nobody did.
Even his missues are in the right spot he was
at well, he got too many shots last year. Beginning
of this year, he wasn't quite there yet. But miss
Kid is I mean two and a half years younger
than Boe Nicks, he younger than cam Ward. And yes
(06:13):
it helps that he got Mike Rabele. Every great quarterback, however,
has had generally, you know, Marino had Don shul Brady
at Belichick, Montana, at Bill Walsh. Here is the coach
and the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
After he's realizing what what he can be and what
the impact that he makes on this offense and being
the conductor, He's hard on himself. I think that he
challenges himself as well as his coaches, and I mean
he means a great deal to this football team.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Trying to be the face, trying to be the conductor
he called the conductor of the offense. You're trying to
be the face of the offense, trying to you want
the want, the want the pressure, you want to you know,
the ball in my hands. And I've tried to show
that all year and throughout my career. So that's what
you know, I kind of feel like and know they
feel off of me. And feel off my energy and
you'll know me when adversity hits, you know, I got
to respond and from there I just got to be,
(07:09):
you know, the same guy, the same guy every day.
You know, don't try to change.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
You know, Drake May's first year, he didn't get the
right coach. By the second coach, they got the right guy.
His comp was justin Herbert, who had to go through
a couple of coaches and get the you know what
beat out of him until he got Jim Harbaugh. Then
their offensive line fell apart, and he's still getting beat up.
But a lot of this dynamic is I watched the
last night and I saw what you saw. It was
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very reminiscent of the old Patriots. Great special teams, excellent coach,
very good on details, big tall quarterback, stole, it doesn't
make a lot of mistakes. And Josh McDaniels designing and
calling the plays. So Dallas plays Detroit on Thursday. I
(07:55):
like Dallas in that game. And they just beat Philly,
and they just beat Kansas City. Dallas will make the
hurd hierarchy today. I'll tell you in advance. They are six'
five and. ONE i thought they'd win four games this
year tops. Five look at their, schedule they can win.
Out if they, Do dak will make the playoffs and
(08:16):
will have made the playoffs With Jason, Garrett mike, McCarthy
And Brian. Schottenheimer, translation the head coach just doesn't mean
that much With Dak. Prescott when he first came into the,
LEAGUE i thought his success was. Circumstantial he was A
b QUARTERBACK bb. Plus but he had the best online
easily in, football the best running back arguably in, football rookie,
(08:38):
contract they stack the. Roster he is currently guiding the
number one offense in THE, nfl and he will do
it with a third different head coach and most of
US i Like Jason garrett more than other, people but
a lot of you didn't Like Jason. Garrett almost nobody
Like Brian schottenheimer And Mike McCarthy's a coin flip depending
(08:59):
on which room he, answer and he keeps being number.
ONE i talked about conversations Changing Dak prescott's all time.
Rank this is year. Ten he's got five or six.
Left this is the best he's ever. Played he's got
at least five years. Left top ten in completion, percentage
touchdown to, interception radio and passion. Rating it is. Time
(09:21):
it is time we start having a different. Conversation, Listen SAMUEL.
L jackson started acting in his. Seventies he didn't become
a big time star until he was nine in the.
Nineties it's not Like SAMUEL. L jackson just became a
really good actor in the. Nineties he finally got an.
Opportunity Quentin, tarantino, right Like amazon didn't make money for
twenty one. Years like sometimes it takes, longer the bake
(09:45):
is longer to see. Greatness but you, know people have
said That Philip rivers will Get hall Of fame, votes
AND i. Agree and one of the REASONS i agree
Because Philip rivers made the playoffs With Marty schottenheimer And
Norv turner And Anthony lynn And Frank reich And mike.
McCoy he made the playoffs with five different. Coaches not
everybody Gets belichick out Of, michigan AND i Love, brady
(10:09):
but Sometime mahomes Gets Andy. Reid you got a medaling,
Owner you got a lot of, noise And Dak prescott
is proving once, again and this is what the great ones.
Do they rise above the. Environment they are not held
down and people will, say, well he hadn't that great
success in the. Playoffs Dan marina Had don shul as
(10:31):
a head coach sub five hundred in the. Playoffs Lamar
jackson Has John harbaugh as a. Coach Lamar jackson struggled
in the. Playoffs Aaron. RODGERS i think he's one game
above five. Hundred he's considered an absolute top ten legend
of all. Time you can't hold playoffs against the. GUY i,
Mean Eli manning's regular season numbers will not be as
(10:54):
good As, DA's but he Won Super. Bowl so absolutely
a Super bowl would Help. Dak nobody's disputing. That BUT
i Think dak's very. UNIQUE i always, say By thanksgiving
of your second, YEAR i feel very CONFIDENT i CAN
i can call you what you. Are but you, Know
baker took a, While darnold took a. While Dak, prescott
(11:19):
we gotta he's. Hot he's got the number one offense,
Again he's got a coach not everybody. Loves, again the
past protection of this offensive line is not. Ideal they're
making big trades in the middle of a. Season Dak
Thursday lions get A w, seven five and one playoffs,
(11:41):
again Here's.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
DAK i had been on other teams where you started
off hot and you're at this time of the year trying,
to you, know figure out what you've got to do
to get back on.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
The horse and to to have the. Moment and we
do right.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Now the confidence and not just that the right guys
in the locker room who understand where we, are who
understand that this is the most important time of the,
year and showing that in just their daily prepping throughout
the week is is.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Fun, yep he's put his head down. Listen seinfeld almost got. Canceled,
Similarly dak has been very good In. Syndication every Time i'm,
like all, right He's Kirk cousins with a star in his,
helmet little better. Mobility who's the Best i've ever seen.
Him it's not everybody is a child actor or De
(12:26):
niro and taxi. Driver it takes a lot of actors
a long time and a lot of writers to have
their first great. Novel dak has been a slow, bake
but if he Wins, thursday you can roll your eyes
all you. Want you start doing a deep dive on
all his career. Numbers he's playing better than he ever
has in year, ten what he didn't have four or
(12:48):
five years. Left he's gonna end up top five to
six in.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
A lot of.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Stats he just needs a couple of pelts in the.
Postseason J mac, listen get a. Knowledge it took me
a while to figure him. Out but he's. Good he's
and we both Like dallas against The Lions. Thursday so
you have One hall Of fame. Vote, okay you can
only vote for vote for one of these two, Guys
(13:13):
Russell wilson Or Dak. Prescott Dak, oh come, on, well
Dat Annoy russell had great. Success who one coach one?
Team how Many Super? Bowls how Many Super? Bowls, well,
again you're asking. ME i didn't say it was a.
Landslide BUT i also think one of the things you
have to consider when it's closed is, intangibles. Leadership there's
(13:34):
a lot of things to. Consider it's not just you.
KNOW i, mean Like russ has dived at the end
of his, Career dak's getting. Better can we get a
conference championship game appearance before we before we carve up
the bust for The hall Of? Fame just a conference title?
Game that's all of. Asking But i'm getting very. EXCITED
i can tell you're fired. Up oh, no it's JUST
(13:57):
i mean he's this guy's played out of his.
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Now let's go the top TEN nfl teams according To
College number. Ten.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
LISTEN i don't like their red zone, offense But Houston
texans four game winning, streak best, defense excellent head. Coach
they shut people down opposing quarterbacks this. Year i've a
passer rating of seventy. Four that's a bad backup. Quarterback so,
there what does that? Mean they're in every game they're
(15:08):
in absolutely every. Game i'm telling you they Play Kansas
city this, Week Kansas city has to. WIN i would
not want to play. Them they play at a different Speed,
defensively nine times this year teams have scored fewer than
twenty points in an offensive league that's never had better offensive.
Coaching houston at, ten number, Nine. Philadelphia i'm tired of
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SAYING i love their general. Manager they lead THE nfl
in three and. Outs they're near the top in. PUNTS i,
Mean Saquon barkley is thirty ninth in the league in
yards per. Carry AND i don't think this, staff this
coaching staff can fix it in season Like Matt lafleur
fixed The packers broken offense in. SEASON i mean they
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have a twenty second ranked rushing offense With Jalen, Hurt
Saquon barkley in a good old. LINE i don't even
know where to put. Him Maybe i'm being complimentary putting
healthy at, nine number, eight And dallas just beat. Him i'm.
Sorry since they Got Quinn williams And Logan, wilson they're
three to. Zero their quarterback pressure rate was top, three
(16:12):
and it's improved thirty five percent since they Got Quinn
williams And Kenny clark and Now Demarvin overshown is. Healthy
just trust your. Eyes they are getting to the. Quarterback
they're doing a better job of protecting. Theirs And Ceedee
lamb And George, pickens they're both number ones and now
they run the. Ball SO i, MEAN i say what you.
(16:33):
Want right, now The Dallas cowboys are a top ten
team in THE, nfl And i'm going to take them
to Beat Detroit, thursday number, eight number. Seven, well The
bears lead THE nfl and. Takeaways they're running the heck
out of the. Ball caleb williams inaccuracy is an issue
should be, noted though he's actually been very good on third.
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Down his passer ratings over one hundred on third, down
and they're. Listen Ben johnson's got a share a hand
feel to. Him he's gonna run the ball forty seven.
Times he doesn't. Care so they have an. Identity they
take the ball. Away Caleb williams is good on third
down and in the fourth. Quarter still have some work to,
do BUT i like any team that is a physical.
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Team In december And january and The bears are number.
Six buffalo now the turnovers have. Increased multiple giveaways in
four straight games is a, problem and they can't defend the,
run which will be there undoing In. January But Josh
allen right now is the best quarterback in the. League
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despite not having a dominant receiving. Corps they're number two
in big plays and they're running the. Football so, again
their ability to run the football tells me they'll win
a playoff game and maybe. Two number Five seattle turn
the sound. Down they just look. DIFFERENT i, mean they've
outgained every opponent in eleven. Games they are, fast they are.
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Physical one of five teams without back to back. LOSSES
i Mean Sam darnold did not play well this week
and they shut out a team twenty six. Nothing he
threw four picks and they almost beat The rams IN.
La they got a lot of talent defense back to
back games with four. Sacks young defensive coach who is,
current who has pivoted multiple. TIMES i Like seattle got
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him at. Five number Four, DENVER i moved him down
nine game winning streat but it's a lot of one
score games and they could have lost To. Washington they
have trailed in all twelve games this. SEASON i mean
if you told me a high seed lost in the
first round of the, PLAYOFFS i think we'd all Go.
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DENVER i just don't think their offense is even. Enough
there are times like this week When washington moved the
ball up and down the. Field that's troubling. You hope
it's just a one. Off The rams. Played their defense
stunk this, week AND i Have denver at. FOUR i
may have Green bay. LOW i have them at, three
three game winning, streak all by a touchdown or. More
(19:05):
jordan love. Folks we gotta stop wondering If jordan loves.
Good the answer is, yes big tall arm doesn't throw.
Picks and now they Get jayden. Reidback now they Got
micah so they have their closer when they have a.
Lead now they're Getting Matthew golden. Back Green bay is
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a Super bowl, team and they were broken offensively three weeks.
Ago but these, young smart offensive coaches Like Matt lafleur
can fix problems in. Season defensive, COACHES i, mean how many,
Years Mike Tom i'm going to struggle to fix the
old line in the run game In. Pittsburgh Green bay at,
three number Two rams had a bad. Week points, allowed,
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giveaways they were a, mess but they are the least
penalized team in THE. Nfl highest gridded overall team offense and.
Defense they only allow seventeen a. Game they have a.
Stinker they went Out. East they didn't play, well but
you can throw the ball on them if your offensive
line can hold. Up Mac jones DID i Mean Bryce young?
Speaker 8 (20:15):
Did?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
SO i have them at two number. One i'm gonna
put In New england. One. LISTEN i watched them go
To buffalo and. WIN i watched them go To tampa and.
Win fifth time they've scored thirty plus. Points they're incredibly,
sound great on special. TEAMS i said it. Earlier it's
very reminiscent of The Belichick brady, stuff with a more
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mobile quarterback and a player friendly. Coach what don't they
do really? Well they don't run the football particularly well.
Well The chiefs have Won Super bowls in, years so
they don't run it.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
Well.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Again they lead THE nfl in big. Plays you don't
get any cheap. Touchdowns they tackle. Well special teams are.
Great fifth game this year they've held opponent to fifteen
points or. Fewer SO i don't know What i'm supposed
to do with. Them you keep telling me What, listen
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what AM i supposed to do With? Denver they keep?
Winning what AM i supposed to do With last? Night
they got thirty in the first half with a backup left.
Tackle they can't run the ball a backup left.
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Speaker 1 (21:27):
WELL i said yesterday on the, SHOW i don't know
how The niners are doing it with all their. Injuries
AND i also said yesterday on the, show you Know
Mike rabel may Win coach of The year right number one,
SEED i, said What Jim harball And Greg roman are
doing with that? Offense when you lose your two offensive,
tackles usually it's. Over but The chargers now Justin herbert had,
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surgery knocking to miss. Time here comes To Marion hampton.
Back they have the number two pass defense in THE,
nfl number three total. Defense the good news Is Herbert
Hampton Philadelphia's woppley a little. Bit Jim harbaugh's now JOINING us.
Live you, know it is, Interesting, jim because you are
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one of these coaches that you create a toughness and a.
RESILIENCE i don't. Care if It's, STANFORD i don't. Care
What's San, Diego San, Francisco Michigan. Chargers first week of,
practice it feels. DIFFERENT i, thought when you lost both,
TACKLES i, said silver pro football can't, win and you're
still running the. Football what is?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
It give me the?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Secret so how do you run the football when you're offensive?
Lineman your offensive line is missing Two Pro? Bowlers how
do you do? It?
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Well good, players good players up, front you.
Speaker 9 (22:46):
Know AND i thought our offensive line really you know
had one of its one of its best games this past. Week,
Yeah jamari, saw you really did a heck of a
job at left. Tackles Ion johnson played one of his best.
Game Brad boseman had one of his best. Games Kai
beck then uh graded out over all all of our
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lineman graded out over ninety. Percent Trey pipkins had had
a bunch of key. Blocks our running backs, really, uh
you know did a phenomenal. Job Kamani Badal, Uh Jared
patterson really uh you know played some of our best
football just. Uh and it's those guys they're the they're
the tough tough. Men plus faith uh and number.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
Ten. Uh let's never forget, Uh Justin herbert he is.
Speaker 9 (23:34):
Uh, uh he's he's he's a he's a, lead he's a.
Beast he's, uh he's one of the best in my.
Opinion so he is playing in the game.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Now and, ever, Yeah Max crosby and, Him Max, crosby you,
know pushes him over shoved. HIM i Love. Max, yeah,
okay And justin probably did a little trash. Talk i'm
okay with.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
That well really, YEAH i mean did.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
You did you trash talk a little in your?
Speaker 9 (24:02):
Day a?
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Little you?
Speaker 1 (24:05):
KNOW i?
Speaker 6 (24:06):
WAS i, was uh, Probably i'm a lot Like.
Speaker 9 (24:10):
Justin i'm more of a, counterpuncher you know WHAT i.
MEAN i wasn't gonna get the first one. IN i
could promise you That Max max Was max gets uh
he's he's quite good at trash talking. Himself and Uh
justin was kind of, counterpunching like a like A Floyd,
mayweather like A Sugar Ray, Robinson Sugar Ray leonard and.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
Uh yeah that uh.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Those two they.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
Have they have nothing but respect for each. Other and uh,
YEAH i like, YOU I I I i really LIKE
i really Like Max. CROSBY i Love, justin but uh,
YEAH i LIKE i like there two greats and the
two of the greats and the two of the best
in the.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Game when you when you, did when you did have
losses to, injuries do you have to coach? Differently? Psychologically
do you have to be more? UPBEAT i, mean you're
very very optimistic. Guy you love football like Nobody i've ever.
Seen but when you have all these, Injuries, jim players
can have self. Doubt players are all it's, cold it's
(25:14):
it's the weather. Changes do you have to coach? Differently almost,
psychologically the speech is the, motivation the. Tactics when you
are injury, depleted which you really have been this, year.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
It's it's a it's a you, know next man up,
mentality you know. It it's, emotional it, hurts.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
You.
Speaker 9 (25:38):
Know Rashon slater for, EXAMPLE i mean that, LIKE i,
mean it's just gut. Wrenching you know how much he
poured into this entire. OFFSEASON i mean him And Joe.
ALL i, mean they're elite guys when it comes to
training and their. Preparation and then you know when that
and then unfortunate long term you, know six month type.
(25:59):
Injury he you, know hits you just, me you feel,
SICK i mean physically physically.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Sick but.
Speaker 9 (26:08):
Then uh you, know then you, know, UH i, mean
and then there's a you, know there's uh, yeah what's what's?
Next who's the next man? Up and uh and you
got a guy you, know sitting there on a spring
who's also been training and preparing and you know how
much they poured into it that uh you, know that's
(26:31):
that's their. Opportunity SO i, guess uh, yeah there's two
ways of two ways you feel about. It and you,
know when you kind of get your breath, back you
gotta kind of get your footing. Back uh you, know
here we, go let's let's attack, it and, uh next
man up? Mentality you, know it's this a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Ago Green bay's offense was broken and they solved. It right,
Now philadelphia's offense a little they can't quite figure it.
Out it. Happens it's a, long long, Season. Jim when
you when you look at a team Like, philadelphia you're
pouring over the film and they just can't quite get
the running game. Right have you ever been in those?
SITUATIONS i, mean if you ever had even this, year
(27:09):
you have a two game stretch and it's just not
it's just not. Working how do you get Because Matt
lafleur had that about three weeks, ago and THEN i
watched them last week And i'm, like, okay they solved their.
Problem when you do have these two game skids when
you're not quite, right how do you get out of?
Speaker 6 (27:25):
It what do you?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Do is it usually schematics players? Health how do you
get out of? It Because philly's in one right.
Speaker 9 (27:29):
Now it's, yeah, yeah you want to get better at,
something you, know you just work a little bit harder at.
It so it's really it's really that that's the, formula you, know,
improvement better today than, yesterday better tomorrow than. Today that
(27:51):
that theory that improvement will lead to success is HOW
i see, everybody uh you, know everybody attacking uh whatever
whatever issue.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
That that they.
Speaker 9 (28:03):
Have AND i see that with The, eagles and let's
remember they're they're they're leading their, division they're they're nine and,
three they're the world, champions and, uh you know it's,
uh you, know big, challenge big challenge for, us and
uh so we're, working we're working, hard, uh you.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Know trying to improve our, strengths trying to improve our.
Speaker 9 (28:24):
Weaknesses you, know a lot of a lot of things
that that it's a that there's emphasis. On and, UH
i know The eagles are doing the exact same.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Thing you, Know, jim when you came out Of, michigan
you had a little bit of an advantage because you
had recruited so many of the players you were going to.
Draft you, YOU i mean a lot of those. Guys
so you guys have hit on a lot of your draft.
Picks AND i AND i said, this there is an
Advanta the one advantage for a college coach to go
pro is you know you know the players you're recruit
them in high. School you know they're, odometer you know
(28:54):
their strengths and. Weakness is nobody's gonna fool. You you
have had some of your young, PLAYERS i mean at,
McConkey some of your young players have BEEN i mean
really hit. Early did you think during your first couple
of drafts, here did you kind of sense you know,
WHAT i know these guys better than these other teams
know these guys because it looks like you.
Speaker 8 (29:14):
Did, man look that, Way, no that's that's not the.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
Case that's, uh That's Joe.
Speaker 9 (29:21):
Hartiz that's our our personnel. STAFF i, mean and that's
what they do every. Day you, know it's uh They
uh you KNOW i try TO i chip in, there
you know WHERE i, can but uh, NO i mean
we all see the good. PLAYERS i mean you're really
you can you watch the tape and uh everybody can
(29:42):
see the good players and then you, realize you know
what they're gonna be playing for somebody else because we
only get.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
One, pick you, know every every thirty two. Picks but,
yeah are you?
Speaker 9 (29:53):
Do you do the best you can when when it's
your time to, pick, uh you, know you pick the
best best player. Available that's the that's The Joe hortiz
and uh you know his his strategy and it's, uh you,
KNOW i have learned so much uh just being in
those meetings and listening to uh our, scouts our. Personnel
(30:14):
Chad alexander's. Phenomenal he'll be a general, manager uh you
know soon for a for a smart team that's looking
for uh you know a guy that's that's great.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
And uh And louis Lou, clark all the.
Speaker 9 (30:27):
Guys uh you, know in our in our personnel room
to go through that board to Watch Joe, ortiz uh
you know lead that. Process that's that's uh you, know
years in the, making and then you know culminates at
the at THE Nfl.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Draft, uh you, know it's it's, uh it's. Inspiring i've
learned a ton.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
So so last NIGHT i Saw Jackson dart was scrambling.
Around he got a little cute in the sidelines and
he just got. Smoked it was. Bad he got, Smoked
AND i, said if it was A Super, bowl you're
going for the winning.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
Drive.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Okay you, Know justin takes a lot of. HITS i
think his first year sometimes he tried to stand up
a linebacker and THAT i didn't like that at. All
have you ever, said because he's taking some, hits do
you ever have to say To, justin, LISTEN i love
that you're a tough, guy because you'd be a little less,
tough could just. Slide do you ever have to just
send him? Down as a former, quarterback Say, JUSTIN i
(31:21):
know you're six five and two. Fifty these guys want
to hurt. You do you ever have those conversations with?
Speaker 8 (31:27):
Him you, know not too, many you, know not. Really
justin is just he's at a level that.
Speaker 9 (31:39):
THAT i just Let justin Be, justin and he knows
exactly what he's doing he's doing, it you, know at.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
The highest level of person possibly.
Speaker 9 (31:50):
Can BUT i WOULD i would tell all quarterbacks BECAUSE
i remember those days of trying to be cute on
the sideline. Too you know you just you kind of
get to the, sideline just slow up a little. Bit you,
know you look like you're stepping out of bounds and
you're trying to get him to hit, you so you
can kind of you, know uh get get the.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
Penalty but you know those that's a that's an emphasis
right now in THE.
Speaker 9 (32:13):
Nfl that and they even send it up for, review
like if both those feet aren't out of, bounds, uh
you know you.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Can you can be.
Speaker 9 (32:20):
Hit so, yeah you, know piece of advice to to
ALL nfl quarterbacks is clearly get out of.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Bounds you, know you can't play. That you can't play
for that that penalty.
Speaker 9 (32:30):
Anymore because uh you know that's that's gonna be uh
that's gonna be, reviewed, Right so uh, YEAH i think
all quarterbacks need to need to know.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
That, Okay, now JUST i used TO i used to
try to get a couple of those those. Penalties uh
well it's different.
Speaker 9 (32:47):
NOW i mean they're they're reviewing that both both those
feet aren't in the, white.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
You can be hit The justin had surgery on his.
Hand he's the kind of. Kid he'll fight through. IT
i know you'd have. To he is he gonna Play
monday Against? Philly do we know that? Today right?
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Now?
Speaker 9 (33:06):
Oh if there's any possible, Way, Yeah justin will will
do anything and everything in his power.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
To uh to play in the.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Game, okay what is.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
It he's the kind of he's the kind of guy
you have to pull. Back you can never you can.
Never uh you could. Never, uh you never have to
talk him into playing, football that's for. Sure you saw.
That uh saw that in our game against The. Raiders you,
know one minute he's he just he just went. In
he just went.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
In, YEAH i, Mean justin's the kind of.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Guy it all comes out of the.
Speaker 9 (33:37):
DOCTORS i, Mean i've got a lot of a lot
of things hanging on the wall, here but a medical
degree is not one of.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
Them so.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
That is. Funny, hey you Get amari And hampton, back
that's gonna feel, great does it?
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Not, yeah he's, uh he's been trending.
Speaker 9 (33:56):
Great he's, uh you know another guy that's just done
everything and anything to uh to get back and you,
know and it's, this it's the same same course.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Action.
Speaker 9 (34:06):
Uh you, know the, doctors uh you, know cleared him
to have limited participation last week and see where the
week takes us this. Week but, uh uh you, know
he's says he's uh you, know says he's looking, good feeling.
Good so he's looking, good he says he's feeling, good and,
uh you, know we'll see where the weak takes, us you.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
Know.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Uh, FINALLY i spent a lot of time In. CHICAGO
i saw twenty four degrees the other. Day do you
have any, HINTS i, mean you know The, Midwest, well
any secrets to staying warm out? Here it's my first
winter out, Here, Jim.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Oh, Yeah just enjoy, It, colin you, know the changing
of the. Seasons.
Speaker 9 (34:41):
Uh the only piece of advice, is, uh enjoy the,
snow you, know crunching under your. Feet just make sure
you have the proper.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Footwear, okay all, right wear.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Boots nice winter. Jacket, Yeah i'm not.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Sure i'm not SURE i was built for. It we'll.
See spending too much time In, manhattan, BEACH i got.
Soft i'm gonna be honest with. YOU i got a little.
Soft i'm not buying.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
It i'm not buying. That the, tough the, toughest they come.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Toughest all, right here we Go Monday night, Football. Eagles good,
Luck Jim, harbaugh appreciate.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
It con thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
On you. Bet, Yeah thursday with the highest nineteen. Degrees
that's what's gonna be This. Thursday, listen they Get hampton.
Back herbert's gonna Play. Monday The eagles are wobbling the
problem with The chargers now they got here's their schedule coming,
up all above five Hundred, Chiefs, Cowboys, Texans broncos and
three of those, TEAMS i Mean, Eagles, Chiefs, Cowboys, Texans
(35:36):
broncos In Kansas city's, Desperate dallas is Desperate. TEXANS i,
mean in most of this, Situations philly doesn't have to.
Win everybody else on that. LIST i, Mean denver's gonna
win Because denver wants that number one seed and a
buy For Sean. Payton so their schedule is. Brutal but they've,
quietly they've quietly become eight and, four and now they
(35:59):
get their star running back back
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Oh, it is a Tuesday show. Jim Harbass stopping by
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Jackson dartboard, he got smoke last night. It's the Herber
in Chicago, little snow. Last night's football season. Officially, wherever
you may be and however you may be listening, thanks
(00:50):
for making us part of your day. So I mean,
I'm I watched the game last night. I think Jackson
Dart has a chance to be a fine franchise quarterback
for the New York John I mean, Eli Manning wasn't
even the best manning Son and he won two Super
Bowls in New York. I think Jackson Dart's gonna have
(01:11):
a fine career. Drake may it's a different discussion. He
looks like he's gonna be one of these guys about
every four years that enters the league and is an
all timer. Size arm iq. I mean, Drake May he
just doesn't miss. Even when he was missing in the
end zone, they were smart misses. Nobody else could get him.
Didn't have his left tackle, didn't have a left guard,
(01:33):
doesn't have a number one wide receiver. They don't run
the ball particularly well. He had thirty points in the
first half. It was a show off flex game for
New England. That's been really good all season, but they
don't get many standalone games. And you know, one of
the rules when somebody's going to be great, they don't
necessarily make it look easy, but they make it look
(01:54):
easier than it looks for ninety percent of the quarterbacks
in the league. Joe Burrow on third down, he doesn't
have a huge arm, he's not a giant guy, he's
not super mobile. It just always puts the ball in
the right place when he's healthy. You know, like it's
just great, looks a lot easier. I watched Michael Jordan
(02:16):
for years. He wasn't the best ball handler, he wasn't
the strongest player, he didn't have the best long range,
just like seventeen feet away. He's gonnat stop him. And
the first year he was a little reckless, got hit
too often. Beginning of this year he wasn't quite there yet.
But I watched him the last four or five weeks.
I was sitting there waiting for his bubble to burst
(02:38):
a little bit, you know, sophomore slump. N He's getting
better every week. This is one of those guys that
checks all the boxes. Jackson Dart to me, feels like
he is still to some degree kind of winging it
and doesn't quite see the field as well as I'd
like him to see the field. Drake May, you're watching
it in real time, Stoic. Not a lot of bad
(02:59):
throw was not getting hit. I mean it's only listen.
You get a franchise quarterback every year. You get an
old timer about every four or five years. I think
we found one. He is on pace to be the
greatest quarterback on first down in the history of the
game for a single season. Number two's Aaron Rodgers. Number
three his Drew Brees. And here's the thing. New England's
(03:23):
offensive roster is still at least one draft class away.
They got to upgrade the old line upgrade. They need
more dynamic players at tight end and wide receiver. Their
run game again below average. So I and I know
watching them last night, I know anybody. I lived you
(03:45):
know in New England territory for a decade, so I
watched every Patriot game during Brady Belichick, Robert Kraft, Josh McDaniels.
It's a very reminiscent team. There's a lot of do
your job efficiency, just like Belichick. Rabel's special teams are great,
and Josh McDaniel is designing the offense and play calling
(04:08):
craft still the owner. Rabel's a more player friendly version
of Belichick, and Drake May is a more mobile version
of Brady. Tall guy, smart guy, doesn't take a lot
of hits, doesn't make a lot of bad throws, super accurate.
It's very reminiscent, and it's almost like you ever have
a car you absolutely love and you eventually turn it in.
(04:30):
You still love it, but it's getting a little old.
You turn it in and you get a newer version,
same model. That's what New England is. Vrabel is Belichick
really cares about special teams. He's just more player friendly
and more current. And Drake May has a lot of
Brady accurate moves. Well doesn't take shots, not a lot
(04:50):
of picks. He's just a little, a little more mobile.
I'm getting I'm getting the new model of the car,
and I just I'm sure if I love the mustache
everything else. We say it all the time, when you
get the quarterback and the coach right, it just doesn't
take that long. There's so much mediocrity in every business.
(05:11):
Here's the other thing. They're ahead of schedule. Drake may
is two and a half years younger than Bo Nicks.
He's a year younger than Caleb Williams. He's two years
younger than Michael Pennix. He's a year and a half
younger than Jayden Daniels. He's younger than cam Ward and
he's easily the best of that group, the most accurate
(05:32):
of that group, the most poised of that group. Well, talent,
Talent is just part of the boxes you have to check.
So there, I mean, I watch him something I look
for all the time. Even his misses are smart, like
those throws in the back of the end zone. He
had a deep ball, only one guy was going to
(05:52):
catch it at Patriot he didn't get it. Nobody did.
Even his missues are in the right spot he was
at well, he got too many shots last year. Beginning
of this year, he wasn't quite there yet. But miss
Kid is I mean two and a half years younger
than Boe Nicks, he younger than cam Ward. And yes
(06:13):
it helps that he got Mike Rabele. Every great quarterback, however,
has had generally, you know, Marino had Don shul Brady
at Belichick, Montana, at Bill Walsh. Here is the coach
and the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
After he's realizing what what he can be and what
the impact that he makes on this offense and being
the conductor, He's hard on himself. I think that he
challenges himself as well as his coaches, and I mean
he means a great deal to this football team.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Trying to be the face, trying to be the conductor
he called the conductor of the offense. You're trying to
be the face of the offense, trying to you want
the want, the want the pressure, you want to you know,
the ball in my hands. And I've tried to show
that all year and throughout my career. So that's what
you know, I kind of feel like and know they
feel off of me. And feel off my energy and
you'll know me when adversity hits, you know, I got
to respond and from there I just got to be,
(07:09):
you know, the same guy, the same guy every day.
You know, don't try to change.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
You know, Drake May's first year, he didn't get the
right coach. By the second coach, they got the right guy.
His comp was justin Herbert, who had to go through
a couple of coaches and get the you know what
beat out of him until he got Jim Harbaugh. Then
their offensive line fell apart, and he's still getting beat up.
But a lot of this dynamic is I watched the
last night and I saw what you saw. It was
(07:34):
very reminiscent of the old Patriots. Great special teams, excellent coach,
very good on details, big tall quarterback, stole, it doesn't
make a lot of mistakes. And Josh McDaniels designing and
calling the plays. So Dallas plays Detroit on Thursday. I
(07:55):
like Dallas in that game. And they just beat Philly,
and they just beat Kansas City. Dallas will make the
hurd hierarchy today. I'll tell you in advance. They are six'
five and. ONE i thought they'd win four games this
year tops. Five look at their, schedule they can win.
Out if they, Do dak will make the playoffs and
(08:16):
will have made the playoffs With Jason, Garrett mike, McCarthy
And Brian. Schottenheimer, translation the head coach just doesn't mean
that much With Dak. Prescott when he first came into the,
LEAGUE i thought his success was. Circumstantial he was A
b QUARTERBACK bb. Plus but he had the best online
easily in, football the best running back arguably in, football rookie,
(08:38):
contract they stack the. Roster he is currently guiding the
number one offense in THE, nfl and he will do
it with a third different head coach and most of
US i Like Jason garrett more than other, people but
a lot of you didn't Like Jason. Garrett almost nobody
Like Brian schottenheimer And Mike McCarthy's a coin flip depending
(08:59):
on which room he, answer and he keeps being number.
ONE i talked about conversations Changing Dak prescott's all time.
Rank this is year. Ten he's got five or six.
Left this is the best he's ever. Played he's got
at least five years. Left top ten in completion, percentage
touchdown to, interception radio and passion. Rating it is. Time
(09:21):
it is time we start having a different. Conversation, Listen SAMUEL.
L jackson started acting in his. Seventies he didn't become
a big time star until he was nine in the.
Nineties it's not Like SAMUEL. L jackson just became a
really good actor in the. Nineties he finally got an.
Opportunity Quentin, tarantino, right Like amazon didn't make money for
twenty one. Years like sometimes it takes, longer the bake
(09:45):
is longer to see. Greatness but you, know people have
said That Philip rivers will Get hall Of fame, votes
AND i. Agree and one of the REASONS i agree
Because Philip rivers made the playoffs With Marty schottenheimer And
Norv turner And Anthony lynn And Frank reich And mike.
McCoy he made the playoffs with five different. Coaches not
everybody Gets belichick out Of, michigan AND i Love, brady
(10:09):
but Sometime mahomes Gets Andy. Reid you got a medaling,
Owner you got a lot of, noise And Dak prescott
is proving once, again and this is what the great ones.
Do they rise above the. Environment they are not held
down and people will, say, well he hadn't that great
success in the. Playoffs Dan marina Had don shul as
(10:31):
a head coach sub five hundred in the. Playoffs Lamar
jackson Has John harbaugh as a. Coach Lamar jackson struggled
in the. Playoffs Aaron. RODGERS i think he's one game
above five. Hundred he's considered an absolute top ten legend
of all. Time you can't hold playoffs against the. GUY i,
Mean Eli manning's regular season numbers will not be as
(10:54):
good As, DA's but he Won Super. Bowl so absolutely
a Super bowl would Help. Dak nobody's disputing. That BUT
i Think dak's very. UNIQUE i always, say By thanksgiving
of your second, YEAR i feel very CONFIDENT i CAN
i can call you what you. Are but you, Know
baker took a, While darnold took a. While Dak, prescott
(11:19):
we gotta he's. Hot he's got the number one offense,
Again he's got a coach not everybody. Loves, again the
past protection of this offensive line is not. Ideal they're
making big trades in the middle of a. Season Dak
Thursday lions get A w, seven five and one playoffs,
(11:41):
again Here's.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
DAK i had been on other teams where you started
off hot and you're at this time of the year trying,
to you, know figure out what you've got to do
to get back on.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
The horse and to to have the. Moment and we
do right.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Now the confidence and not just that the right guys
in the locker room who understand where we, are who
understand that this is the most important time of the,
year and showing that in just their daily prepping throughout
the week is is.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Fun, yep he's put his head down. Listen seinfeld almost got. Canceled,
Similarly dak has been very good In. Syndication every Time i'm,
like all, right He's Kirk cousins with a star in his,
helmet little better. Mobility who's the Best i've ever seen.
Him it's not everybody is a child actor or De
(12:26):
niro and taxi. Driver it takes a lot of actors
a long time and a lot of writers to have
their first great. Novel dak has been a slow, bake
but if he Wins, thursday you can roll your eyes
all you. Want you start doing a deep dive on
all his career. Numbers he's playing better than he ever
has in year, ten what he didn't have four or
(12:48):
five years. Left he's gonna end up top five to
six in.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
A lot of.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Stats he just needs a couple of pelts in the.
Postseason J mac, listen get a. Knowledge it took me
a while to figure him. Out but he's. Good he's
and we both Like dallas against The Lions. Thursday so
you have One hall Of fame. Vote, okay you can
only vote for vote for one of these two, Guys
(13:13):
Russell wilson Or Dak. Prescott Dak, oh come, on, well
Dat Annoy russell had great. Success who one coach one?
Team how Many Super? Bowls how Many Super? Bowls, well,
again you're asking. ME i didn't say it was a.
Landslide BUT i also think one of the things you
have to consider when it's closed is, intangibles. Leadership there's
(13:34):
a lot of things to. Consider it's not just you.
KNOW i, mean Like russ has dived at the end
of his, Career dak's getting. Better can we get a
conference championship game appearance before we before we carve up
the bust for The hall Of? Fame just a conference title?
Game that's all of. Asking But i'm getting very. EXCITED
i can tell you're fired. Up oh, no it's JUST
(13:57):
i mean he's this guy's played out of his.
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Now let's go the top TEN nfl teams according To
College number. Ten.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
LISTEN i don't like their red zone, offense But Houston
texans four game winning, streak best, defense excellent head. Coach
they shut people down opposing quarterbacks this. Year i've a
passer rating of seventy. Four that's a bad backup. Quarterback so,
there what does that? Mean they're in every game they're
(15:08):
in absolutely every. Game i'm telling you they Play Kansas
city this, Week Kansas city has to. WIN i would
not want to play. Them they play at a different Speed,
defensively nine times this year teams have scored fewer than
twenty points in an offensive league that's never had better offensive.
Coaching houston at, ten number, Nine. Philadelphia i'm tired of
(15:29):
SAYING i love their general. Manager they lead THE nfl
in three and. Outs they're near the top in. PUNTS i,
Mean Saquon barkley is thirty ninth in the league in
yards per. Carry AND i don't think this, staff this
coaching staff can fix it in season Like Matt lafleur
fixed The packers broken offense in. SEASON i mean they
(15:49):
have a twenty second ranked rushing offense With Jalen, Hurt
Saquon barkley in a good old. LINE i don't even
know where to put. Him Maybe i'm being complimentary putting
healthy at, nine number, eight And dallas just beat. Him i'm.
Sorry since they Got Quinn williams And Logan, wilson they're
three to. Zero their quarterback pressure rate was top, three
(16:12):
and it's improved thirty five percent since they Got Quinn
williams And Kenny clark and Now Demarvin overshown is. Healthy
just trust your. Eyes they are getting to the. Quarterback
they're doing a better job of protecting. Theirs And Ceedee
lamb And George, pickens they're both number ones and now
they run the. Ball SO i, MEAN i say what you.
(16:33):
Want right, now The Dallas cowboys are a top ten
team in THE, nfl And i'm going to take them
to Beat Detroit, thursday number, eight number. Seven, well The
bears lead THE nfl and. Takeaways they're running the heck
out of the. Ball caleb williams inaccuracy is an issue
should be, noted though he's actually been very good on third.
(16:54):
Down his passer ratings over one hundred on third, down
and they're. Listen Ben johnson's got a share a hand
feel to. Him he's gonna run the ball forty seven.
Times he doesn't. Care so they have an. Identity they
take the ball. Away Caleb williams is good on third
down and in the fourth. Quarter still have some work to,
do BUT i like any team that is a physical.
(17:15):
Team In december And january and The bears are number.
Six buffalo now the turnovers have. Increased multiple giveaways in
four straight games is a, problem and they can't defend the,
run which will be there undoing In. January But Josh
allen right now is the best quarterback in the. League
(17:37):
despite not having a dominant receiving. Corps they're number two
in big plays and they're running the. Football so, again
their ability to run the football tells me they'll win
a playoff game and maybe. Two number Five seattle turn
the sound. Down they just look. DIFFERENT i, mean they've
outgained every opponent in eleven. Games they are, fast they are.
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Physical one of five teams without back to back. LOSSES
i Mean Sam darnold did not play well this week
and they shut out a team twenty six. Nothing he
threw four picks and they almost beat The rams IN.
La they got a lot of talent defense back to
back games with four. Sacks young defensive coach who is,
current who has pivoted multiple. TIMES i Like seattle got
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him at. Five number Four, DENVER i moved him down
nine game winning streat but it's a lot of one
score games and they could have lost To. Washington they
have trailed in all twelve games this. SEASON i mean
if you told me a high seed lost in the
first round of the, PLAYOFFS i think we'd all Go.
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DENVER i just don't think their offense is even. Enough
there are times like this week When washington moved the
ball up and down the. Field that's troubling. You hope
it's just a one. Off The rams. Played their defense
stunk this, week AND i Have denver at. FOUR i
may have Green bay. LOW i have them at, three
three game winning, streak all by a touchdown or. More
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jordan love. Folks we gotta stop wondering If jordan loves.
Good the answer is, yes big tall arm doesn't throw.
Picks and now they Get jayden. Reidback now they Got
micah so they have their closer when they have a.
Lead now they're Getting Matthew golden. Back Green bay is
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a Super bowl, team and they were broken offensively three weeks.
Ago but these, young smart offensive coaches Like Matt lafleur
can fix problems in. Season defensive, COACHES i, mean how many,
Years Mike Tom i'm going to struggle to fix the
old line in the run game In. Pittsburgh Green bay at,
three number Two rams had a bad. Week points, allowed,
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giveaways they were a, mess but they are the least
penalized team in THE. Nfl highest gridded overall team offense and.
Defense they only allow seventeen a. Game they have a.
Stinker they went Out. East they didn't play, well but
you can throw the ball on them if your offensive
line can hold. Up Mac jones DID i Mean Bryce young?
Speaker 8 (20:15):
Did?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
SO i have them at two number. One i'm gonna
put In New england. One. LISTEN i watched them go
To buffalo and. WIN i watched them go To tampa and.
Win fifth time they've scored thirty plus. Points they're incredibly,
sound great on special. TEAMS i said it. Earlier it's
very reminiscent of The Belichick brady, stuff with a more
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mobile quarterback and a player friendly. Coach what don't they
do really? Well they don't run the football particularly well.
Well The chiefs have Won Super bowls in, years so
they don't run it.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
Well.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Again they lead THE nfl in big. Plays you don't
get any cheap. Touchdowns they tackle. Well special teams are.
Great fifth game this year they've held opponent to fifteen
points or. Fewer SO i don't know What i'm supposed
to do with. Them you keep telling me What, listen
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what AM i supposed to do With? Denver they keep?
Winning what AM i supposed to do With last? Night
they got thirty in the first half with a backup left.
Tackle they can't run the ball a backup left.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
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Speaker 1 (21:27):
WELL i said yesterday on the, SHOW i don't know
how The niners are doing it with all their. Injuries
AND i also said yesterday on the, show you Know
Mike rabel may Win coach of The year right number one,
SEED i, said What Jim harball And Greg roman are
doing with that? Offense when you lose your two offensive,
tackles usually it's. Over but The chargers now Justin herbert had,
(21:50):
surgery knocking to miss. Time here comes To Marion hampton.
Back they have the number two pass defense in THE,
nfl number three total. Defense the good news Is Herbert
Hampton Philadelphia's woppley a little. Bit Jim harbaugh's now JOINING us.
Live you, know it is, Interesting, jim because you are
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one of these coaches that you create a toughness and a.
RESILIENCE i don't. Care if It's, STANFORD i don't. Care
What's San, Diego San, Francisco Michigan. Chargers first week of,
practice it feels. DIFFERENT i, thought when you lost both,
TACKLES i, said silver pro football can't, win and you're
still running the. Football what is?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
It give me the?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Secret so how do you run the football when you're offensive?
Lineman your offensive line is missing Two Pro? Bowlers how
do you do? It?
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Well good, players good players up, front you.
Speaker 9 (22:46):
Know AND i thought our offensive line really you know
had one of its one of its best games this past. Week,
Yeah jamari, saw you really did a heck of a
job at left. Tackles Ion johnson played one of his best.
Game Brad boseman had one of his best. Games Kai
beck then uh graded out over all all of our
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lineman graded out over ninety. Percent Trey pipkins had had
a bunch of key. Blocks our running backs, really, uh
you know did a phenomenal. Job Kamani Badal, Uh Jared
patterson really uh you know played some of our best
football just. Uh and it's those guys they're the they're
the tough tough. Men plus faith uh and number.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
Ten. Uh let's never forget, Uh Justin herbert he is.
Speaker 9 (23:34):
Uh, uh he's he's he's a he's a, lead he's a.
Beast he's, uh he's one of the best in my.
Opinion so he is playing in the game.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Now and, ever, Yeah Max crosby and, Him Max, crosby you,
know pushes him over shoved. HIM i Love. Max, yeah,
okay And justin probably did a little trash. Talk i'm
okay with.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
That well really, YEAH i mean did.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
You did you trash talk a little in your?
Speaker 9 (24:02):
Day a?
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Little you?
Speaker 1 (24:05):
KNOW i?
Speaker 6 (24:06):
WAS i, was uh, Probably i'm a lot Like.
Speaker 9 (24:10):
Justin i'm more of a, counterpuncher you know WHAT i.
MEAN i wasn't gonna get the first one. IN i
could promise you That Max max Was max gets uh
he's he's quite good at trash talking. Himself and Uh
justin was kind of, counterpunching like a like A Floyd,
mayweather like A Sugar Ray, Robinson Sugar Ray leonard and.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
Uh yeah that uh.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Those two they.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
Have they have nothing but respect for each. Other and uh,
YEAH i like, YOU I I I i really LIKE
i really Like Max. CROSBY i Love, justin but uh,
YEAH i LIKE i like there two greats and the
two of the greats and the two of the best
in the.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Game when you when you, did when you did have
losses to, injuries do you have to coach? Differently? Psychologically
do you have to be more? UPBEAT i, mean you're
very very optimistic. Guy you love football like Nobody i've ever.
Seen but when you have all these, Injuries, jim players
can have self. Doubt players are all it's, cold it's
(25:14):
it's the weather. Changes do you have to coach? Differently almost,
psychologically the speech is the, motivation the. Tactics when you
are injury, depleted which you really have been this, year.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
It's it's a it's a you, know next man up,
mentality you know. It it's, emotional it, hurts.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
You.
Speaker 9 (25:38):
Know Rashon slater for, EXAMPLE i mean that, LIKE i,
mean it's just gut. Wrenching you know how much he
poured into this entire. OFFSEASON i mean him And Joe.
ALL i, mean they're elite guys when it comes to
training and their. Preparation and then you know when that
and then unfortunate long term you, know six month type.
(25:59):
Injury he you, know hits you just, me you feel,
SICK i mean physically physically.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Sick but.
Speaker 9 (26:08):
Then uh you, know then you, know, UH i, mean
and then there's a you, know there's uh, yeah what's what's?
Next who's the next man? Up and uh and you
got a guy you, know sitting there on a spring
who's also been training and preparing and you know how
much they poured into it that uh you, know that's
(26:31):
that's their. Opportunity SO i, guess uh, yeah there's two
ways of two ways you feel about. It and you,
know when you kind of get your breath, back you
gotta kind of get your footing. Back uh you, know
here we, go let's let's attack, it and, uh next
man up? Mentality you, know it's this a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Ago Green bay's offense was broken and they solved. It right,
Now philadelphia's offense a little they can't quite figure it.
Out it. Happens it's a, long long, Season. Jim when
you when you look at a team Like, philadelphia you're
pouring over the film and they just can't quite get
the running game. Right have you ever been in those?
SITUATIONS i, mean if you ever had even this, year
(27:09):
you have a two game stretch and it's just not
it's just not. Working how do you get Because Matt
lafleur had that about three weeks, ago and THEN i
watched them last week And i'm, like, okay they solved their.
Problem when you do have these two game skids when
you're not quite, right how do you get out of?
Speaker 6 (27:25):
It what do you?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Do is it usually schematics players? Health how do you
get out of? It Because philly's in one right.
Speaker 9 (27:29):
Now it's, yeah, yeah you want to get better at,
something you, know you just work a little bit harder at.
It so it's really it's really that that's the, formula you, know,
improvement better today than, yesterday better tomorrow than. Today that
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that theory that improvement will lead to success is HOW
i see, everybody uh you, know everybody attacking uh whatever
whatever issue.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
That that they.
Speaker 9 (28:03):
Have AND i see that with The, eagles and let's
remember they're they're they're leading their, division they're they're nine and,
three they're the world, champions and, uh you know it's,
uh you, know big, challenge big challenge for, us and
uh so we're, working we're working, hard, uh you.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Know trying to improve our, strengths trying to improve our.
Speaker 9 (28:24):
Weaknesses you, know a lot of a lot of things
that that it's a that there's emphasis. On and, UH
i know The eagles are doing the exact same.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Thing you, Know, jim when you came out Of, michigan
you had a little bit of an advantage because you
had recruited so many of the players you were going to.
Draft you, YOU i mean a lot of those. Guys
so you guys have hit on a lot of your draft.
Picks AND i AND i said, this there is an
Advanta the one advantage for a college coach to go
pro is you know you know the players you're recruit
them in high. School you know they're, odometer you know
(28:54):
their strengths and. Weakness is nobody's gonna fool. You you
have had some of your young, PLAYERS i mean at,
McConkey some of your young players have BEEN i mean
really hit. Early did you think during your first couple
of drafts, here did you kind of sense you know,
WHAT i know these guys better than these other teams
know these guys because it looks like you.
Speaker 8 (29:14):
Did, man look that, Way, no that's that's not the.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
Case that's, uh That's Joe.
Speaker 9 (29:21):
Hartiz that's our our personnel. STAFF i, mean and that's
what they do every. Day you, know it's uh They
uh you KNOW i try TO i chip in, there
you know WHERE i, can but uh, NO i mean
we all see the good. PLAYERS i mean you're really
you can you watch the tape and uh everybody can
(29:42):
see the good players and then you, realize you know
what they're gonna be playing for somebody else because we
only get.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
One, pick you, know every every thirty two. Picks but,
yeah are you?
Speaker 9 (29:53):
Do you do the best you can when when it's
your time to, pick, uh you, know you pick the
best best player. Available that's the that's The Joe hortiz
and uh you know his his strategy and it's, uh you,
KNOW i have learned so much uh just being in
those meetings and listening to uh our, scouts our. Personnel
(30:14):
Chad alexander's. Phenomenal he'll be a general, manager uh you
know soon for a for a smart team that's looking
for uh you know a guy that's that's great.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
And uh And louis Lou, clark all the.
Speaker 9 (30:27):
Guys uh you, know in our in our personnel room
to go through that board to Watch Joe, ortiz uh
you know lead that. Process that's that's uh you, know
years in the, making and then you know culminates at
the at THE Nfl.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Draft, uh you, know it's it's, uh it's. Inspiring i've
learned a ton.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
So so last NIGHT i Saw Jackson dart was scrambling.
Around he got a little cute in the sidelines and
he just got. Smoked it was. Bad he got, Smoked
AND i, said if it was A Super, bowl you're
going for the winning.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
Drive.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Okay you, Know justin takes a lot of. HITS i
think his first year sometimes he tried to stand up
a linebacker and THAT i didn't like that at. All
have you ever, said because he's taking some, hits do
you ever have to say To, justin, LISTEN i love
that you're a tough, guy because you'd be a little less,
tough could just. Slide do you ever have to just
send him? Down as a former, quarterback Say, JUSTIN i
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know you're six five and two. Fifty these guys want
to hurt. You do you ever have those conversations with?
Speaker 8 (31:27):
Him you, know not too, many you, know not. Really
justin is just he's at a level that.
Speaker 9 (31:39):
THAT i just Let justin Be, justin and he knows
exactly what he's doing he's doing, it you, know at.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
The highest level of person possibly.
Speaker 9 (31:50):
Can BUT i WOULD i would tell all quarterbacks BECAUSE
i remember those days of trying to be cute on
the sideline. Too you know you just you kind of
get to the, sideline just slow up a little. Bit you,
know you look like you're stepping out of bounds and
you're trying to get him to hit, you so you
can kind of you, know uh get get the.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
Penalty but you know those that's a that's an emphasis
right now in THE.
Speaker 9 (32:13):
Nfl that and they even send it up for, review
like if both those feet aren't out of, bounds, uh
you know you.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Can you can be.
Speaker 9 (32:20):
Hit so, yeah you, know piece of advice to to
ALL nfl quarterbacks is clearly get out of.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Bounds you, know you can't play. That you can't play
for that that penalty.
Speaker 9 (32:30):
Anymore because uh you know that's that's gonna be uh
that's gonna be, reviewed, Right so uh, YEAH i think
all quarterbacks need to need to know.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
That, Okay, now JUST i used TO i used to
try to get a couple of those those. Penalties uh
well it's different.
Speaker 9 (32:47):
NOW i mean they're they're reviewing that both both those
feet aren't in the, white.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
You can be hit The justin had surgery on his.
Hand he's the kind of. Kid he'll fight through. IT
i know you'd have. To he is he gonna Play
monday Against? Philly do we know that? Today right?
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Now?
Speaker 9 (33:06):
Oh if there's any possible, Way, Yeah justin will will
do anything and everything in his power.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
To uh to play in the.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Game, okay what is.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
It he's the kind of he's the kind of guy
you have to pull. Back you can never you can.
Never uh you could. Never, uh you never have to
talk him into playing, football that's for. Sure you saw.
That uh saw that in our game against The. Raiders you,
know one minute he's he just he just went. In
he just went.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
In, YEAH i, Mean justin's the kind of.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Guy it all comes out of the.
Speaker 9 (33:37):
DOCTORS i, Mean i've got a lot of a lot
of things hanging on the wall, here but a medical
degree is not one of.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
Them so.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
That is. Funny, hey you Get amari And hampton, back
that's gonna feel, great does it?
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Not, yeah he's, uh he's been trending.
Speaker 9 (33:56):
Great he's, uh you know another guy that's just done
everything and anything to uh to get back and you,
know and it's, this it's the same same course.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Action.
Speaker 9 (34:06):
Uh you, know the, doctors uh you, know cleared him
to have limited participation last week and see where the
week takes us this. Week but, uh uh you, know
he's says he's uh you, know says he's looking, good feeling.
Good so he's looking, good he says he's feeling, good and,
uh you, know we'll see where the weak takes, us you.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
Know.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Uh, FINALLY i spent a lot of time In. CHICAGO
i saw twenty four degrees the other. Day do you
have any, HINTS i, mean you know The, Midwest, well
any secrets to staying warm out? Here it's my first
winter out, Here, Jim.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Oh, Yeah just enjoy, It, colin you, know the changing
of the. Seasons.
Speaker 9 (34:41):
Uh the only piece of advice, is, uh enjoy the,
snow you, know crunching under your. Feet just make sure
you have the proper.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Footwear, okay all, right wear.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Boots nice winter. Jacket, Yeah i'm not.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Sure i'm not SURE i was built for. It we'll.
See spending too much time In, manhattan, BEACH i got.
Soft i'm gonna be honest with. YOU i got a little.
Soft i'm not buying.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
It i'm not buying. That the, tough the, toughest they come.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Toughest all, right here we Go Monday night, Football. Eagles good,
Luck Jim, harbaugh appreciate.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
It con thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
On you. Bet, Yeah thursday with the highest nineteen. Degrees
that's what's gonna be This. Thursday, listen they Get hampton.
Back herbert's gonna Play. Monday The eagles are wobbling the
problem with The chargers now they got here's their schedule coming,
up all above five Hundred, Chiefs, Cowboys, Texans broncos and
three of those, TEAMS i Mean, Eagles, Chiefs, Cowboys, Texans
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broncos In Kansas city's, Desperate dallas is Desperate. TEXANS i,
mean in most of this, Situations philly doesn't have to.
Win everybody else on that. LIST i, Mean denver's gonna
win Because denver wants that number one seed and a
buy For Sean. Payton so their schedule is. Brutal but they've,
quietly they've quietly become eight and, four and now they
(35:59):
get their star running back back
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