December 10, 2025 • 25 mins
Colin Cowherd talks about the struggling Eagles offense and why most of the blame is landing at QB Jalen Hurts’ feet. He discusses Bears QB Caleb Williams' low completion percentage and explains why this is not a long-term concern for Chicago as they prepare for a push to the playoffs. Plus, college football analyst Josh Pate joins the show breaking down Notre Dame’s exclusion from the College Football Playoff and why Indiana is a real championship contender with QB Fernando Mendoza
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowver
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
It's a Wednesday seasons. Greetings from Fox Sports Live in LA.
It's the Hurt wherever you may be, however you may
be listening, whatever platform. Thanks for making us part of
your day. There are some things that are absolutely true.
(00:49):
It just takes a while to prove them and people
will push back. But some things definitively they're obvious. But
we're not comfortable just saying something that is definitively proof
over time, absolutely factual. The NFL is a big man's game.
(01:13):
So Nick Sarajani's the coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. They're
in a losing streak and Jalen Hurts is struggling and
Nick Sarianni on WIP Radio in Philadelphia was asked about
replacing him. Is there a possibility later this season if
he continues to struggle, that you can make a change
at the quarterback's bock.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
No, I think that's ridiculous, you know, I think you know,
Jalen Hurts. I know every time I go out in
that field with Jalen Hurts as our quarterback, we have
a chance to win the game. And that's you know,
that's that's something that's been proven. Every time I walk
out on that field and Jalen Hurts as a starting quarterback,
I have so much confidence that we can win every
(01:56):
game and in any game that we play and that
we're in.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, except for the last three or four, which you
keep losing. The truth is, the more Jalen Hurts throws
the worst, Philadelphia is the Those are the facts. If
he throws over thirty times, they're not very good. So
I'm going to give you a list of current quarterbacks
in the NFL that lead their division or are leading
(02:23):
in the MVP race, or their name is Joe Burrow.
Here's their heights. You can put up the graphic for
our TV audience. Six six six' six six' five six
four six four six four six three six three Six
three i'm. SIX' two i can't be taller than. Your
franchise quarterback these are the first Place Quarterbacks or Joe
(02:48):
Burrow and josh, ALLEN probably wins mvp. Certainly deserves it
in the, last twenty years there Have Been two super
bowl champion quarterbacks that we've all, SORT, of gone. Whoa
that's surprising foals Six' five and. Joe flacco six six
have you noticed how Quickly The smaller quarterbacks, Age Tua
(03:12):
beat up kyler, Murray Hurt a lot brock purty. Banged
Up a lot jalen hurts, On A losing, Streak Jylan
gabriel benched bryce. Young been banged up and it's. Not
just the size as we show You A picture of jalen,
(03:33):
hurts from the camera look. How small, he looks, he's smart,
he's athletic. He's tough he's tiny it's not just the
size and the. Length of the quarterback it's the. Length
of the season. IT'S now seventeen games nfl, defensive, players,
Are bigger stronger faster, the hits hurt. More they're more punitive,
(03:56):
seventeen regular Season. Games four playoff gamesames i'll, give You,
an example. Justin Herbert this year justin herbert went to
dinner LAST night with The. Gm Of the chargers justin,
herbert is they say closer to six. Seven than six six.
He's a large man he's been hit. One hundred six
(04:19):
times he currently has a broken hand, and no run
game and yet his team. Is, Nine, to four meanwhile
tua when he's hit just seven, times in a game
they came out of. The Same draft class when tua
is just hit, seven times a game. He's One in six.
Jalen hurts is small people have tried to convince. Me
(04:41):
height doesn't matter go look at our graphic again of
first PLACE, Quarterbacks In the nfl JOSH, allen's gonna win
mvp And A, guy named joe burrow who there's an
argument is the best pure thrower in the sport. And,
he's six four yeah That Part of. THE jalen hurts
(05:03):
thing i love how we. Showed you that video we
showed You That video of jalen hirts throwing the Ball
BEHIND the. Massive eagles o line THE problem is all,
o lines are massive average size six five and a
half to six. Six and a. Half look. For yourself
it's cluttered it's hard to See Well, what about baker mayfield,
smaller than i'd like throws, a lot of, picks some of,
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them in, my, opinion over, compensation emotionally over compensation physically.
Trying to, make plays his body his arm. And HIS
vision can't so i WAS talking to that Gm Last.
Night about caleb williams not going, to get into details
but we got into. This discussion last night what in
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the world do you do with a quarterback that is
completing fifty eight? Percent of his throws will? He, ever
get better. Well here's what's interesting if You look At
The bear's quarterback kleb, williams second year, stats this year's
Stats They're identical to josh allen's Second, year, stats in
buffalo identical both completing fifty eight percent of their throws,
(06:12):
with about twenty touchdowns, not that many picks and. They're
Winning A lot but josh allen has moved to seventy
percent this. Year in completion percentage one of my beliefs
because he's throwing to the tight. Ends more easier throws
They're receiving, group in buffalo stinks so he's not throwing
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the ball down. The field as much his completion percentage
hasn't risen dramatically just. Because, He's more accurate no josh
throws to. The tight ends, more those. Are shorter easier,
THROWS the truth is i don't think completion percentage matters
as much a if You're wildly Athletic like caleb bo
(06:54):
Nix Is, really athletic josh allen or you're, on, your
rookie contract well? Why Would that Matter, because Denver and
Chicago bo nix and. Caleb have great Rosters Everybody's, talking
about ben Johnson Everybody's. Talking about caleb williams what's not
being discussed Is how stacked the bears roster is Because they're.
(07:14):
Not paying caleb anything they have the number three offensive
line of Thirty two teams the bears do and, Two
Of their Guys Drew, dolman and joe. Tooney are top
ten they're number one In Takeaways With Two pro Bowlers Kevin.
Byard and jalen johnson montez sweat eight, and a half
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sacks TOP. Twelve in the nfl they're, number two in,
rushing two excellent backs and a multitude of really good.
Receivers and tight ends lost in The, conversation With. Bo
Nix and caleb The broncos and the bears rosters with
two brilliant. Offensive coaches are loaded, so generally in life the,
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more money you make the more mistakes you. Can make WITH, money,
in the nfl well the less money you, make as
a quarterback the less perfect. You, Have to be now caleb's.
Great On third down bow nicks is great, in the
fourth quarter but. They're wildly and uneven you're allowed to
be when you're, on your rookie contract have an offensive
(08:19):
coach and a really really. Above Average In athleticism so
caleb williams on, third down is outstanding, and, he's obviously.
Coachable durable and athletic. I'm good with that now he's
gonna win, a lot of games And so is bo
nicks until perhaps they. Get the big contract But Everybody
(08:39):
looks at, JOSH, allen, and goes. O hey so accurate
now do you think it's a coincidence he has. His
worst receiving corps he's throwing more underneath and more. Often
The tight ends josh allen is, still, all, about power horsepower.
Running leaping over People We don't think. Josh allen hyper
accurate we think. Of THE dynamic Athleticism so I think
(09:04):
caleb bo nicks athleticism to some degree in your rookie contract.
TRUMPS all, the accuracy i Mean ask Yourself what bow
and caleb. Have done this year. Look at their? Records
what are they twenty and six and. Neither one's terribly
accurate it tells you how good the coaches, and the
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rosters are which, you get away with we're not. Paying
the quarterback ANYTHING this is what rg three about a
Week Ago said about. Caleb williams completion percentage, accuracy is.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
A myth all right accuracy to me is always dependent
upon where the defense is and what you're trying to get.
The receiver TO do so where i think his sixty
one percent completion percentage comes from is more so the
fact that he is willing to take more chances to,
have big plays occur which drives. Down his completion percentage
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do you want a guy that's going To. Be a
checkdown charlie do you want a guy that is not
going to take those risks deep down the field because he's.
AFRAID to make mistakes i Don't Think that's. Who caleb williams.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Is we also have A topic today and i HAVE
said this That I Believe the los angeles dodgers are
not only the best Run Sports, Operation, IN, north america.
Canada us all sports and when you're really, smart and
well run you. Are planning years ahead so there's a
(10:32):
lot of fear in baseball Right now that the dodgers
are pulling away. Back to Back Champs, just signed edwin
diaz the best, closer in baseball arguably and they may
sign over the next two days The Two times sign Young.
Winner out Of detroit why the dodgers understand what is
(10:52):
happening in the WORLD and why the nba is missing
out on. This that's coming.
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this FREAKS everybody, out But i think, and I'll back
this and I've said it as, jmack As my witness
the dodgers are The best run organization i've ever, seen
in any sport certainly now and maybe. Ever research and
development they don't, Miss on free agents they, get the
(11:56):
right guys the way they stagger their pictures, ready for
the postseason. How they solve problems. It's not just money
they do not spend the highest percentage of their. Revenue
on their, payroll mets actually. Do and they think so
there's a Story Today after signing Edwin, diaz from the,
mets a great closer they may go after and they
(12:18):
may Announce they've signed the Tigers Left, handed ace Tarik
Skubele Two, time cy young winner great great Pitcher to
go with yoshi who looked like last year the. Best
pitcher in Baseball so what the dodgers UNDERSTAND is. What
the nba doesn't sports leagues now are Competing against succession
and instagram And stranger Things and TikTok. And game of
(12:42):
thrones it's broader and wider than. Ever for the audience.
The options are everywhere. Parody doesn't cut through you see
the ratings Last Year, for the world Series even with
a canadian team the. Best In a decade the dodgers
understand in A Highly distracted market los angeles, and, a very,
(13:05):
distracted frenetic caffeinated world. You got, to go mission. Impossible.
You gotta go Avengers, they've learned from. Hollywood they really
have They've tapped into. What hollywood figured out independent. Films.
Isn't the answer now Some dynasties are boring bama football
where the coach was more, interesting Than The Players, and
(13:25):
Tim Duncan, Spurs, But george steinbrenner jeters, Yankees were Not
boring shaq, and kobe Not boring and. The dodgers aren't
Boring What's boring is oklahoma city a personality list team
in a parody driven new champ every. Year sport nobody's,
(13:45):
watching BY, the Way the ufc who, i've supported for
Years they. Need another connor McGregor it's a lot. Of
really good guys. They need a superstar there's too many options,
there's too many platforms there's, Too many, Great Shows, Big
wins mission Impossible. Otani TO the dodgers the nba is.
(14:09):
Caught up on. This, let's be fair no GO Look
at the Wa Go. Look at wall street Seven. Companies
run the Dow.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Used To.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Be google And. Microsoft now it's NAVIDIA it's, all the ai.
Companies trillion. Dollar companies it's happening, it is. A wider
wider world go. Look at college football WE blew, up
the pac twelve but we took their, TWO most Interesting
(14:38):
programs usc and oregon and put them In a. Massively
popular big TEN we took the sec and a Very uninteresting,
conference to big twelve but we took the, Two most
Interesting teams texas and oklahoma and Put THEM. Into the
great sec and college football increasingly is a two mega,
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Power conference IN, sport big ten sec and the ratings are. Through,
the ROOF this oh the pac twelve, is gonna what
disband go away and. The sports ratings Increase so COLLEGE football,
Fox in espn said we're not gonna let you guys.
Run the sport anymore we're gonna initiate a. LOT, Of
(15:19):
these moves usc oregon, Join, The big ten texas OKLAHOMA.
Get into the sec now IT feels like the nfl run.
By two major conferences so The thing about the dodgers
is you. Can pick a side you, can root for
them you. Can root Against Them, outside of oklahoma city
nobody has A. Strong opinion on okac SO this is Why.
(15:42):
I like the dodgers it's not just, they're, good at. Drafting,
scouting free agency. Yes they've got Money, So to the mets.
Yes they've got Money, so to the nationals go. Look
at their owner they understand, on a marketing level they're.
Doing a mission, impossible they get it NOT, just in
distracted la but in a. Distracted platform heavy planet. So go,
(16:09):
For it, i'm in i'm watching and the ratings tell.
Us you are too you pick A, side with the
dodgers love, him or hate him but you're. Forced to take.
One you're Never Indifferent One.
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Speaker 1 (16:31):
SWITCH to college football i think the best young voice
In The sport is josh pate's got. His own YouTube
channel we think he's fantastic covering the sport, for Fifteen
years now and. Josh IS joining us so i saw.
This story this. Morning This Is fun so ivan mazel. Is.
A wonderful guy no nine or. For a long time he's.
On the selection committee so he Wrote A, book on
Frank Leahy the. Great notre dame coach he. Was supposed
(16:53):
to sign He Was going to south bend to have
a Book Signing at. The notre dame bookstore josh canceled
it because he's. On the selection. Committee it's ridiculously petty
are you surprised by this academic powerhouse? Being?
Speaker 6 (17:09):
This, RIDICULOUSLY petty uh no I guess with what i've
seen over the, Past, Days Slash week no ivan mozel
got ten book purchases for me, because, Of THIS headline
though so i think he may?
Speaker 5 (17:24):
End up all right is that not the kind of.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
Stupidity that you normally see, like an election season the, Collateral,
DAMAGE of politics like i know who, Your Dad worked
for so i'm not going to buy the cookies from, your.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
GIRL scout TROOP.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
Right i just i thought we, could keep it out
but apparently we can't keep it out, OF college, Football.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Listen i thought josh and you're a. Mile deep on
This as long, as MIAMI got in And i, don't
think miami's great but their common. Opponents head to Head My,
thing was NOTRE dame YOU played A, and m in
miami you gotta, be one of them and you Can.
Complain about at Bama bama went, to athens and won
and not. A lot of people I Don't know if ohio.
State could do that So my take was i'm not into.
(18:04):
The small SCHOOL stuff but mostly i thought the committee
got it, right in The. END did you.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
Yeah i didn't complain about. The rankings at all ninety
eight percent of my vitriol was. RESERVED for the process,
I wish you know, I, SAID this Morning Colin i
wish pete bavaqua Or Anybody banging the notre dame drum
would just stick. To the main argument if they could stick,
to the main argument. THEY'D get broad consensus i May
Disagree with a notre dame fan that they should have
(18:34):
gotten in versus. Shouldn't have gotten, in I'M with you
like i think the rankings are pretty much, what they
should BE absent in, the g five thing, which its
own conversation but the process. Was so screwed up, it
was so mangled and it really occurred to me at
the eleventh hour that the committee you Sort Of retroactively
had notre. Dame ranked too high they probably in, a
Knee jerk reaction bumped alabama Too low. After the oklahoma
(18:57):
laws they probably bumped my. Any way too low at the,
outset of the rankings they were all the, way DOWN
at eighteenth and i think they just kind of shook
the snow globe and hoped, everything would work Out and
it never, it never worked out and so they had
this mess in their lap. At The Eleventh, hour and
pete babaqua the one really really appreciate, thing that he
said which he, should have stuck to. Was we got
(19:18):
misled independent of what you, think about the outcome we
feel like we got misled because he's got every reason,
to feel that way because the, Players Do as well marcus,
freeman does. As well everybody does because the committee kind
of made it look in the end like they had
no clue what they were doing when they had every
reason to just Go ahead And Have.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Alabama Above notre Dame Or. Miami above notre dame so
that part. Was INSANITY to.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Me so i Grew up. With the Pac, Twelve you're
from Georgia I'm. From the pacific Northwest but when, THE
pac twelve. DISBANDED i got it usc had, been complaining
for years why are we making The Same money As Washington.
State and Oregon State, we're in los angeles so there
was a kind of. A lack of vision the, stadiums
weren't VERY full and so i. REMEMBER getting the call
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i was vacationing WITH my family and I, GOT, A,
Call ucla usc oregon Washington Going. To The big, TEN
and i'm, like I get it and I'M for it Because, I,
DO believe Texas oklahoma usc and oregon are GLAMOROUS programs
And that espn and fox looked at, college football and,
said you know what if we could just be a little.
More like pro football the players are going. To get
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paid anyway now, there's a transfer portal let's just kind
of pivot these big brands. INTO these big CONFERENCES i
THINK the nil and. I know, we all you know
if you Grow, up in The, SOUTH, You thought bama
lsu georgia Winning. EVERY year in clemson a, lot of
people did but you're a. Bigger picture macro guy my
take was it. WAS hurting the sport i think now, having,
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two massive conferences, which By The way the big ten
brought it goes. Through three time zones it's not like It's.
ALL in the midwest i don't think the college football, has,
ever been, crazier whackier more discussed or. Better or more
diversified that's my view as Somebody who's from the. South
wants to dominate how do you feel? About the sport?
Speaker 7 (21:08):
Now you, ARE right, growing, up I thought Hey if
Georgia and auburn and, alabama are doing good. The SPORT'S
doing good so i had a little bit. Of a
blind spot we are born without the rearview mirrors, even
on the car so you don't really know what's going.
ON outside of that, i will, say this you know
like my favorite Candy. Bar is Crunch bar so crunch
(21:28):
bar in my lifetime has been owned, by thirteen different
companies but the packaging has always looked the same and
the taste has, Always BEEN the same so i don't really.
Care WHO owns it and i really, think down the
road when this process IS complete of The Sec, and
the big ten gobbling up all of the value properties and.
Commodities In the sport what i'd really love to see
is an understanding that mega conferences have made a complete
(21:52):
mess of things, like conference championship.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Pictures but also scheduling it's.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
So incongruent, right now and secondly the region within the
national scope of the sport is something we've. LOST a
little bit I Love if the big ten feels Like gobbling,
up the BIG twelve or the sec gobbles up WHAT'S.
Remaining of the acc if we're headed, Down that slope
anyway i'd love for us to slip pretty quick down
there and then redistribute the country up like. It USED
(22:19):
to look and i DON'T care if the pac twelve
is A Subsidiary. OF the big ten i DON'T care
if The acc or the big Twelve Or even.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
The southwest conference is A.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
Subsidiary OF the sec WHAT i love is i love
for the sport to get where, it's going and then
in a very very, ironic twist of fate sort of
resemble what it, used to look like where. Scheduling makes
more sense, our regionality still matters but it's just kind
of in a new.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
World Order, OF regionality.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Fernando, mendoza i, don't, know, six'. Five humble grateful big
arm how shocked were you that he's the best player
on The Field, when they play Ohio State that, like
the penn state game he, makes all the big throws.
Not in A HOME game was the indiana, I said,
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the other day i said it was hard to wrap
my Brain around that PERFORMANCE because i've had, a, Tv
my entire life like indiana football has. NEVER looked, like
that Ever i Mean even even colorado pre dion had a.
Couple of big time teams What Did you make of
indiana mendoza And Pushing at times pushing Ohio. State backwards
(23:30):
from THE.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
Hoosiers i've owned a tv my whole life is just such.
A perfect synopsis of this I, too HAVE owned a
tv so i too am moderately To severely shocked by.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
What sig has, done there and if anything last.
Speaker 7 (23:43):
Year's performance was supposed to be sort of a one
and then back to earth and they've gotten better and
look they won. That game thirteen to ten, it got
a huge rating so a, LOT of, People watched it
i know but for, people who didn't watch, it, they
may be thinking oh it.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Was some mistake prone.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Like, snooze festive a game well it kind of may,
have PUT you to Sleep but i watched it colin
in the fourth, QUARTER and my mentality was i can't.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
BELIEVE this is still close i can't believe this is.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
Only a three Point, Game as far as mendoza i'm,
not comparing the two players, so please don't misunderstand me
but it feels to me Like A generation ago when Andrew. Luck,
was coming through stanford, again the talents aren't comparable but
he plays for a. Program YOU don't typically Watch, and
i remember with Luck People were hearing about andrew Luck Before.
(24:29):
They were, WATCHING andrew luck and similarly i think people
have heard A Lot about this This. Fernando mendoza kid
At indiana. They're, NOT watching indiana games well i. MEAN
the number of state a lot of people watched. That
game the other night and If You're not Familiar With
fernando mendoza and jenny taff put that.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Microphone in, his face after the game.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
That personality is like a bucket of water to, your,
face and you're like whoa this? Dude really talks like
this absolutely go. Look At his cal interviews man we
watched some Of. His postgame interactions at cal he. Sounds
the Exact same way it's just america Is Not. Being
introduced to, Fernando, mendozo josh as.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Always buddy you. Crushed it great seeing you it's Going
to Be. An Amazing, DECEMBER early january. Thanks bud i.
Appreciate it brother all right covering college. Football For A
Long Time josh payt. College football show on. YouTube, love him.
So much funny funny guy
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowver
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
It's a Wednesday seasons. Greetings from Fox Sports Live in LA.
It's the Hurt wherever you may be, however you may
be listening, whatever platform. Thanks for making us part of
your day. There are some things that are absolutely true.
(00:49):
It just takes a while to prove them and people
will push back. But some things definitively they're obvious. But
we're not comfortable just saying something that is definitively proof
over time, absolutely factual. The NFL is a big man's game.
(01:13):
So Nick Sarajani's the coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. They're
in a losing streak and Jalen Hurts is struggling and
Nick Sarianni on WIP Radio in Philadelphia was asked about
replacing him. Is there a possibility later this season if
he continues to struggle, that you can make a change
at the quarterback's bock.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
No, I think that's ridiculous, you know, I think you know,
Jalen Hurts. I know every time I go out in
that field with Jalen Hurts as our quarterback, we have
a chance to win the game. And that's you know,
that's that's something that's been proven. Every time I walk
out on that field and Jalen Hurts as a starting quarterback,
I have so much confidence that we can win every
(01:56):
game and in any game that we play and that
we're in.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, except for the last three or four, which you
keep losing. The truth is, the more Jalen Hurts throws
the worst, Philadelphia is the Those are the facts. If
he throws over thirty times, they're not very good. So
I'm going to give you a list of current quarterbacks
in the NFL that lead their division or are leading
(02:23):
in the MVP race, or their name is Joe Burrow.
Here's their heights. You can put up the graphic for
our TV audience. Six six six' six six' five six
four six four six four six three six three Six
three i'm. SIX' two i can't be taller than. Your
franchise quarterback these are the first Place Quarterbacks or Joe
(02:48):
Burrow and josh, ALLEN probably wins mvp. Certainly deserves it
in the, last twenty years there Have Been two super
bowl champion quarterbacks that we've all, SORT, of gone. Whoa
that's surprising foals Six' five and. Joe flacco six six
have you noticed how Quickly The smaller quarterbacks, Age Tua
(03:12):
beat up kyler, Murray Hurt a lot brock purty. Banged
Up a lot jalen hurts, On A losing, Streak Jylan
gabriel benched bryce. Young been banged up and it's. Not
just the size as we show You A picture of jalen,
(03:33):
hurts from the camera look. How small, he looks, he's smart,
he's athletic. He's tough he's tiny it's not just the
size and the. Length of the quarterback it's the. Length
of the season. IT'S now seventeen games nfl, defensive, players,
Are bigger stronger faster, the hits hurt. More they're more punitive,
(03:56):
seventeen regular Season. Games four playoff gamesames i'll, give You,
an example. Justin Herbert this year justin herbert went to
dinner LAST night with The. Gm Of the chargers justin,
herbert is they say closer to six. Seven than six six.
He's a large man he's been hit. One hundred six
(04:19):
times he currently has a broken hand, and no run
game and yet his team. Is, Nine, to four meanwhile
tua when he's hit just seven, times in a game
they came out of. The Same draft class when tua
is just hit, seven times a game. He's One in six.
Jalen hurts is small people have tried to convince. Me
(04:41):
height doesn't matter go look at our graphic again of
first PLACE, Quarterbacks In the nfl JOSH, allen's gonna win
mvp And A, guy named joe burrow who there's an
argument is the best pure thrower in the sport. And,
he's six four yeah That Part of. THE jalen hurts
(05:03):
thing i love how we. Showed you that video we
showed You That video of jalen hirts throwing the Ball
BEHIND the. Massive eagles o line THE problem is all,
o lines are massive average size six five and a
half to six. Six and a. Half look. For yourself
it's cluttered it's hard to See Well, what about baker mayfield,
smaller than i'd like throws, a lot of, picks some of,
(05:26):
them in, my, opinion over, compensation emotionally over compensation physically.
Trying to, make plays his body his arm. And HIS
vision can't so i WAS talking to that Gm Last.
Night about caleb williams not going, to get into details
but we got into. This discussion last night what in
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the world do you do with a quarterback that is
completing fifty eight? Percent of his throws will? He, ever
get better. Well here's what's interesting if You look At
The bear's quarterback kleb, williams second year, stats this year's
Stats They're identical to josh allen's Second, year, stats in
buffalo identical both completing fifty eight percent of their throws,
(06:12):
with about twenty touchdowns, not that many picks and. They're
Winning A lot but josh allen has moved to seventy
percent this. Year in completion percentage one of my beliefs
because he's throwing to the tight. Ends more easier throws
They're receiving, group in buffalo stinks so he's not throwing
(06:33):
the ball down. The field as much his completion percentage
hasn't risen dramatically just. Because, He's more accurate no josh
throws to. The tight ends, more those. Are shorter easier,
THROWS the truth is i don't think completion percentage matters
as much a if You're wildly Athletic like caleb bo
(06:54):
Nix Is, really athletic josh allen or you're, on, your
rookie contract well? Why Would that Matter, because Denver and
Chicago bo nix and. Caleb have great Rosters Everybody's, talking
about ben Johnson Everybody's. Talking about caleb williams what's not
being discussed Is how stacked the bears roster is Because they're.
(07:14):
Not paying caleb anything they have the number three offensive
line of Thirty two teams the bears do and, Two
Of their Guys Drew, dolman and joe. Tooney are top
ten they're number one In Takeaways With Two pro Bowlers Kevin.
Byard and jalen johnson montez sweat eight, and a half
(07:34):
sacks TOP. Twelve in the nfl they're, number two in,
rushing two excellent backs and a multitude of really good.
Receivers and tight ends lost in The, conversation With. Bo
Nix and caleb The broncos and the bears rosters with
two brilliant. Offensive coaches are loaded, so generally in life the,
(07:54):
more money you make the more mistakes you. Can make WITH, money,
in the nfl well the less money you, make as
a quarterback the less perfect. You, Have to be now caleb's.
Great On third down bow nicks is great, in the
fourth quarter but. They're wildly and uneven you're allowed to
be when you're, on your rookie contract have an offensive
(08:19):
coach and a really really. Above Average In athleticism so
caleb williams on, third down is outstanding, and, he's obviously.
Coachable durable and athletic. I'm good with that now he's
gonna win, a lot of games And so is bo
nicks until perhaps they. Get the big contract But Everybody
(08:39):
looks at, JOSH, allen, and goes. O hey so accurate
now do you think it's a coincidence he has. His
worst receiving corps he's throwing more underneath and more. Often
The tight ends josh allen is, still, all, about power horsepower.
Running leaping over People We don't think. Josh allen hyper
accurate we think. Of THE dynamic Athleticism so I think
(09:04):
caleb bo nicks athleticism to some degree in your rookie contract.
TRUMPS all, the accuracy i Mean ask Yourself what bow
and caleb. Have done this year. Look at their? Records
what are they twenty and six and. Neither one's terribly
accurate it tells you how good the coaches, and the
(09:24):
rosters are which, you get away with we're not. Paying
the quarterback ANYTHING this is what rg three about a
Week Ago said about. Caleb williams completion percentage, accuracy is.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
A myth all right accuracy to me is always dependent
upon where the defense is and what you're trying to get.
The receiver TO do so where i think his sixty
one percent completion percentage comes from is more so the
fact that he is willing to take more chances to,
have big plays occur which drives. Down his completion percentage
(09:57):
do you want a guy that's going To. Be a
checkdown charlie do you want a guy that is not
going to take those risks deep down the field because he's.
AFRAID to make mistakes i Don't Think that's. Who caleb williams.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Is we also have A topic today and i HAVE
said this That I Believe the los angeles dodgers are
not only the best Run Sports, Operation, IN, north america.
Canada us all sports and when you're really, smart and
well run you. Are planning years ahead so there's a
(10:32):
lot of fear in baseball Right now that the dodgers
are pulling away. Back to Back Champs, just signed edwin
diaz the best, closer in baseball arguably and they may
sign over the next two days The Two times sign Young.
Winner out Of detroit why the dodgers understand what is
(10:52):
happening in the WORLD and why the nba is missing
out on. This that's coming.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
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this FREAKS everybody, out But i think, and I'll back
this and I've said it as, jmack As my witness
the dodgers are The best run organization i've ever, seen
in any sport certainly now and maybe. Ever research and
development they don't, Miss on free agents they, get the
(11:56):
right guys the way they stagger their pictures, ready for
the postseason. How they solve problems. It's not just money
they do not spend the highest percentage of their. Revenue
on their, payroll mets actually. Do and they think so
there's a Story Today after signing Edwin, diaz from the,
mets a great closer they may go after and they
(12:18):
may Announce they've signed the Tigers Left, handed ace Tarik
Skubele Two, time cy young winner great great Pitcher to
go with yoshi who looked like last year the. Best
pitcher in Baseball so what the dodgers UNDERSTAND is. What
the nba doesn't sports leagues now are Competing against succession
and instagram And stranger Things and TikTok. And game of
(12:42):
thrones it's broader and wider than. Ever for the audience.
The options are everywhere. Parody doesn't cut through you see
the ratings Last Year, for the world Series even with
a canadian team the. Best In a decade the dodgers
understand in A Highly distracted market los angeles, and, a very,
(13:05):
distracted frenetic caffeinated world. You got, to go mission. Impossible.
You gotta go Avengers, they've learned from. Hollywood they really
have They've tapped into. What hollywood figured out independent. Films.
Isn't the answer now Some dynasties are boring bama football
where the coach was more, interesting Than The Players, and
(13:25):
Tim Duncan, Spurs, But george steinbrenner jeters, Yankees were Not
boring shaq, and kobe Not boring and. The dodgers aren't
Boring What's boring is oklahoma city a personality list team
in a parody driven new champ every. Year sport nobody's,
(13:45):
watching BY, the Way the ufc who, i've supported for
Years they. Need another connor McGregor it's a lot. Of
really good guys. They need a superstar there's too many options,
there's too many platforms there's, Too many, Great Shows, Big
wins mission Impossible. Otani TO the dodgers the nba is.
(14:09):
Caught up on. This, let's be fair no GO Look
at the Wa Go. Look at wall street Seven. Companies
run the Dow.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Used To.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Be google And. Microsoft now it's NAVIDIA it's, all the ai.
Companies trillion. Dollar companies it's happening, it is. A wider
wider world go. Look at college football WE blew, up
the pac twelve but we took their, TWO most Interesting
(14:38):
programs usc and oregon and put them In a. Massively
popular big TEN we took the sec and a Very uninteresting,
conference to big twelve but we took the, Two most
Interesting teams texas and oklahoma and Put THEM. Into the
great sec and college football increasingly is a two mega,
(14:59):
Power conference IN, sport big ten sec and the ratings are. Through,
the ROOF this oh the pac twelve, is gonna what
disband go away and. The sports ratings Increase so COLLEGE football,
Fox in espn said we're not gonna let you guys.
Run the sport anymore we're gonna initiate a. LOT, Of
(15:19):
these moves usc oregon, Join, The big ten texas OKLAHOMA.
Get into the sec now IT feels like the nfl run.
By two major conferences so The thing about the dodgers
is you. Can pick a side you, can root for
them you. Can root Against Them, outside of oklahoma city
nobody has A. Strong opinion on okac SO this is Why.
(15:42):
I like the dodgers it's not just, they're, good at. Drafting,
scouting free agency. Yes they've got Money, So to the mets.
Yes they've got Money, so to the nationals go. Look
at their owner they understand, on a marketing level they're.
Doing a mission, impossible they get it NOT, just in
distracted la but in a. Distracted platform heavy planet. So go,
(16:09):
For it, i'm in i'm watching and the ratings tell.
Us you are too you pick A, side with the
dodgers love, him or hate him but you're. Forced to take.
One you're Never Indifferent One.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
More heard the herd streams twenty, four hours a day
seven days A week. Within The iHeartRadio app search herd
to listen live or on. Demand whenever you like let's.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
SWITCH to college football i think the best young voice
In The sport is josh pate's got. His own YouTube
channel we think he's fantastic covering the sport, for Fifteen
years now and. Josh IS joining us so i saw.
This story this. Morning This Is fun so ivan mazel. Is.
A wonderful guy no nine or. For a long time he's.
On the selection committee so he Wrote A, book on
Frank Leahy the. Great notre dame coach he. Was supposed
(16:53):
to sign He Was going to south bend to have
a Book Signing at. The notre dame bookstore josh canceled
it because he's. On the selection. Committee it's ridiculously petty
are you surprised by this academic powerhouse? Being?
Speaker 6 (17:09):
This, RIDICULOUSLY petty uh no I guess with what i've
seen over the, Past, Days Slash week no ivan mozel
got ten book purchases for me, because, Of THIS headline
though so i think he may?
Speaker 5 (17:24):
End up all right is that not the kind of.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
Stupidity that you normally see, like an election season the, Collateral,
DAMAGE of politics like i know who, Your Dad worked
for so i'm not going to buy the cookies from, your.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
GIRL scout TROOP.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
Right i just i thought we, could keep it out
but apparently we can't keep it out, OF college, Football.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Listen i thought josh and you're a. Mile deep on
This as long, as MIAMI got in And i, don't
think miami's great but their common. Opponents head to Head My,
thing was NOTRE dame YOU played A, and m in
miami you gotta, be one of them and you Can.
Complain about at Bama bama went, to athens and won
and not. A lot of people I Don't know if ohio.
State could do that So my take was i'm not into.
(18:04):
The small SCHOOL stuff but mostly i thought the committee
got it, right in The. END did you.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
Yeah i didn't complain about. The rankings at all ninety
eight percent of my vitriol was. RESERVED for the process,
I wish you know, I, SAID this Morning Colin i
wish pete bavaqua Or Anybody banging the notre dame drum
would just stick. To the main argument if they could stick,
to the main argument. THEY'D get broad consensus i May
Disagree with a notre dame fan that they should have
(18:34):
gotten in versus. Shouldn't have gotten, in I'M with you
like i think the rankings are pretty much, what they
should BE absent in, the g five thing, which its
own conversation but the process. Was so screwed up, it
was so mangled and it really occurred to me at
the eleventh hour that the committee you Sort Of retroactively
had notre. Dame ranked too high they probably in, a
Knee jerk reaction bumped alabama Too low. After the oklahoma
(18:57):
laws they probably bumped my. Any way too low at the,
outset of the rankings they were all the, way DOWN
at eighteenth and i think they just kind of shook
the snow globe and hoped, everything would work Out and
it never, it never worked out and so they had
this mess in their lap. At The Eleventh, hour and
pete babaqua the one really really appreciate, thing that he
said which he, should have stuck to. Was we got
(19:18):
misled independent of what you, think about the outcome we
feel like we got misled because he's got every reason,
to feel that way because the, Players Do as well marcus,
freeman does. As well everybody does because the committee kind
of made it look in the end like they had
no clue what they were doing when they had every
reason to just Go ahead And Have.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Alabama Above notre Dame Or. Miami above notre dame so
that part. Was INSANITY to.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Me so i Grew up. With the Pac, Twelve you're
from Georgia I'm. From the pacific Northwest but when, THE
pac twelve. DISBANDED i got it usc had, been complaining
for years why are we making The Same money As Washington.
State and Oregon State, we're in los angeles so there
was a kind of. A lack of vision the, stadiums
weren't VERY full and so i. REMEMBER getting the call
(20:04):
i was vacationing WITH my family and I, GOT, A,
Call ucla usc oregon Washington Going. To The big, TEN
and i'm, like I get it and I'M for it Because, I,
DO believe Texas oklahoma usc and oregon are GLAMOROUS programs
And that espn and fox looked at, college football and,
said you know what if we could just be a little.
More like pro football the players are going. To get
(20:25):
paid anyway now, there's a transfer portal let's just kind
of pivot these big brands. INTO these big CONFERENCES i
THINK the nil and. I know, we all you know
if you Grow, up in The, SOUTH, You thought bama
lsu georgia Winning. EVERY year in clemson a, lot of
people did but you're a. Bigger picture macro guy my
take was it. WAS hurting the sport i think now, having,
(20:48):
two massive conferences, which By The way the big ten
brought it goes. Through three time zones it's not like It's.
ALL in the midwest i don't think the college football, has,
ever been, crazier whackier more discussed or. Better or more
diversified that's my view as Somebody who's from the. South
wants to dominate how do you feel? About the sport?
Speaker 7 (21:08):
Now you, ARE right, growing, up I thought Hey if
Georgia and auburn and, alabama are doing good. The SPORT'S
doing good so i had a little bit. Of a
blind spot we are born without the rearview mirrors, even
on the car so you don't really know what's going.
ON outside of that, i will, say this you know
like my favorite Candy. Bar is Crunch bar so crunch
(21:28):
bar in my lifetime has been owned, by thirteen different
companies but the packaging has always looked the same and
the taste has, Always BEEN the same so i don't really.
Care WHO owns it and i really, think down the
road when this process IS complete of The Sec, and
the big ten gobbling up all of the value properties and.
Commodities In the sport what i'd really love to see
is an understanding that mega conferences have made a complete
(21:52):
mess of things, like conference championship.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Pictures but also scheduling it's.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
So incongruent, right now and secondly the region within the
national scope of the sport is something we've. LOST a
little bit I Love if the big ten feels Like gobbling,
up the BIG twelve or the sec gobbles up WHAT'S.
Remaining of the acc if we're headed, Down that slope
anyway i'd love for us to slip pretty quick down
there and then redistribute the country up like. It USED
(22:19):
to look and i DON'T care if the pac twelve
is A Subsidiary. OF the big ten i DON'T care
if The acc or the big Twelve Or even.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
The southwest conference is A.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
Subsidiary OF the sec WHAT i love is i love
for the sport to get where, it's going and then
in a very very, ironic twist of fate sort of
resemble what it, used to look like where. Scheduling makes
more sense, our regionality still matters but it's just kind
of in a new.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
World Order, OF regionality.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Fernando, mendoza i, don't, know, six'. Five humble grateful big
arm how shocked were you that he's the best player
on The Field, when they play Ohio State that, like
the penn state game he, makes all the big throws.
Not in A HOME game was the indiana, I said,
(23:08):
the other day i said it was hard to wrap
my Brain around that PERFORMANCE because i've had, a, Tv
my entire life like indiana football has. NEVER looked, like
that Ever i Mean even even colorado pre dion had a.
Couple of big time teams What Did you make of
indiana mendoza And Pushing at times pushing Ohio. State backwards
(23:30):
from THE.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
Hoosiers i've owned a tv my whole life is just such.
A perfect synopsis of this I, too HAVE owned a
tv so i too am moderately To severely shocked by.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
What sig has, done there and if anything last.
Speaker 7 (23:43):
Year's performance was supposed to be sort of a one
and then back to earth and they've gotten better and
look they won. That game thirteen to ten, it got
a huge rating so a, LOT of, People watched it
i know but for, people who didn't watch, it, they
may be thinking oh it.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Was some mistake prone.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Like, snooze festive a game well it kind of may,
have PUT you to Sleep but i watched it colin
in the fourth, QUARTER and my mentality was i can't.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
BELIEVE this is still close i can't believe this is.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
Only a three Point, Game as far as mendoza i'm,
not comparing the two players, so please don't misunderstand me
but it feels to me Like A generation ago when Andrew. Luck,
was coming through stanford, again the talents aren't comparable but
he plays for a. Program YOU don't typically Watch, and
i remember with Luck People were hearing about andrew Luck Before.
(24:29):
They were, WATCHING andrew luck and similarly i think people
have heard A Lot about this This. Fernando mendoza kid
At indiana. They're, NOT watching indiana games well i. MEAN
the number of state a lot of people watched. That
game the other night and If You're not Familiar With
fernando mendoza and jenny taff put that.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Microphone in, his face after the game.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
That personality is like a bucket of water to, your,
face and you're like whoa this? Dude really talks like
this absolutely go. Look At his cal interviews man we
watched some Of. His postgame interactions at cal he. Sounds
the Exact same way it's just america Is Not. Being
introduced to, Fernando, mendozo josh as.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Always buddy you. Crushed it great seeing you it's Going
to Be. An Amazing, DECEMBER early january. Thanks bud i.
Appreciate it brother all right covering college. Football For A
Long Time josh payt. College football show on. YouTube, love him.
So much funny funny guy
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