July 24, 2020 • 40 mins
This Lakers roster is a joke as a title contender
The Dodgers are great and got breaks which usually leads to titles
Dak Prescott being unhappy that Jason Garrett is gone makes sense
Jamal Adams says Adam Gase is the problem
Guests: Eric Karros, MLB on FOX
Michael Vick, 4x Pro Bowl QB
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It is a great show today. We are packed, got
a lot of guests, got a lot of opinions. I'm
even talking baseball today, Eric Carros next hour, I've got
some thoughts on the Dodgers and the Yankees. In a second,
I want to start the show on a Friday with this.
You know, let's let's not kid ourselves here, So I
watched Dallas Maverick's Lakers about four o'clock Pacific. I love
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Dallas's roster. I just love it. I just I would.
If you're Mark Cuban, you have just got to love this.
You found your next Dirk Nevitski, except he's better Luca
don jas You got Seth Curry from Portland. What a
nice find that kid's been this Dallas is gonna be
really good for the next decade. I mean, they may
have the scoring champ five of the next ten years
in Luca don Jach. The kid's twenty years old. He's
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way ahead of Lebron in terms of scoring ability. He's
a tremendous young player. And I'm watching that game and
I'm like, Dallas's roster is younger, it's deeper, it's more athletic.
They have a twenty year old that's going to be
a star in this league for the next fifteen years.
And I look at the Lakers and I'm like, good God,
if you took Lebron out of this lineup, it's a
reality show. It's he is the super glue to a mess.
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Kyle Kuzma was awful last night. I mean, I like
Danny Green, but he's thirty three. He's old. I like
Anthony Davis a lot, but he's brittle. This roster JaVale McGee,
Dion Waiters j R. Smith, Dwight Howard, and KCP. If
it was a reality show, if this was hard Knox
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sign it to a lifetime deal. This is a mess.
It really is. If you take Lebron James out of
this Laker roster, all you Laker fans, this is the
Pelicans with Anthony Davis, except not as talented because they
had Drew Holliday, who's a total baller. Drew Holliday is
an excellent NBA player, that's an All Star level player.
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This roster for the Lakers is it is. This is
not well constructed. Lebron is completely super glue with this team.
And this is why, of course Lebron's gonna be the MVP,
or at least should be. I mean, if you take
Janis out of Milwaukee, they're not the same team. Nobody
would dispute that. But that's a playoff team. It's well coached,
they have multiple good players. This Laker roster is old, dysfunctional.
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It's got some of the goofiest players in the NBA
on it, all of them, all of them out of
their prime. Dwight Howard Jr. Smith, theon Waiters, JaVale McGee,
Kyle Kuzma. I'm not sure what his prime is, KCPI
like I do. I think there's something there. But you
know he's had Hisshues house arrest two years ago. I mean,
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that's just the thing. It's part of his you know,
his NBA reality. But just to give your heads up
on this, Dallas has a way better roster. It's younger,
it's more athletic, and they got a start at twenty.
If Lebron wins a title with this reality show, goat,
I'm over. I'm not even arguing it because they have
no business winning. They got to go through potentially Portland, Houston,
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the Clippers, and then a Milwaukee or Boston. I mean,
you're watching this thing last night. Take Lebron out of this.
Look at this roster. It is Anthony Davis and cross
your fingers. And Lebron is strong enough and verbal enough
and vocal enough and the leader so that all these
sort of disparate, weird, odd NBA reality show dysfunctional parts
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kind of they kind of respect him. They work hard
out of respect for the King. They kind of make
sure they're in line. But you got j R. Smith yesterday.
I didn't. I didn't bring enough underwear. Dwight Howard, I
refuse to wear a mask. Oh God, the only thing
this team is missing is Antonio Brown. It is never
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forget this. Before Lebron got there, it was a you
know what show for about five years. Magic Gone Agent,
new GM owners fighting with each other, brothers, sister, God,
I'm watching this thing last night. Man. They are Lebron
is superglueing this thing together. They have no business being
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the number one seed in the West by five and
a half games. They have no business being met No way,
no way, no how, number one seed in the West
by five and a half games. I love where Dallas
is going. I just like Lebron because right now that
the Lakers are the second best constructed basketball team in
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the building they play in by a mile. All right,
let me talk to some baseball. Watch a couple of
games last night, Yes I did. Dodgers won. They're really good.
The way it works in sports is when you're really
good and you combine that with getting a break, you
often end up winning a championship in any sport. So
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you're really good and you get a break. The example
would be Toronto last year. Now they deserve credit for
getting into the finals. Smart GM, excellent coach, nice roster,
ad Kahi, Leonard Stirr. Really good. But let's be honest,
Golden State fell apart, Steph got hurt, Clay got hurt,
Kevin Durant got hurt. They were an overwhelming favorite. They
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would have won. When Kevin Durant came back for third
team minutes boom, they looked like the better team. But
that's the breaks. It was a very good team with
a very good GM and a very good coats and
a nice roster, a nice mix of veterans in youth
and Kawhi Leonard, but they got a big break. When
you get when you do a lot right and then
you get a break, you usually end up winning a championship.
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This Dodger team is really good. Let's start with this.
It is the first team since the New York Yankees
in nineteen sixty three when they had Mickey Mannlin Roger Merris.
It's the first team with an MVP from each of
the previous two seasons. Cody Bellinger and Mookie Bets. They
are stacked. Max Munsey hit thirty five, Jack's last two years.
Mookie Betts is the MVP. Cody Bellinger was a National
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League MVP. Justin Turner hit twenty seven, Jacks Corey Seeger
was the Rookie of the Year four years back. Kik Hernandez,
Jack Peterson coming off great years. And look at their roster.
Munsey beats left, Bets right, Bellinger left, Turner, right, Seeger left,
kik Hernandez right, Jack Peterson, who will probably platoon as
a DH left, AJ Pollock right. Now. This is a
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big thing. So there's a very good baseball team, and
so are the Yankees, and so are the Astros. These
are very good baseball teams. But the Dodgers, like the Raptors,
are getting a break. There's a new rule in baseball
this year for twenty twenty. You go to the bullpen,
guy's got to face minimum three batters or finish the inning.
Huge break for the Dodgers. The Yankees best hitters are
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all Righty's, the Dodgers aren't. So you come into an
inning and you start having trouble. You're getting no breaks here.
It's not righty on righty. They can throw lefty, lefty, righty, lefty, righty, lefty.
Big break for the Dodgers. Second break, and the Dodgers
get credit for creating this roster. I'm not saying like
the Raptors, they don't deserve credit, but boy, all this
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situational stuff going to the bullpen three times in an
inning can do it this year. Big break for the Dodgers.
Second break. The Yankees just happened. Doing a sixty game schedule.
You're only playing your division and people in your region, well,
Yankees regions much tougher. The Phillies should be very good
in their division. You've got the Rays and the Red
Sox are very good. This is a really Phillies are
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going to be excellent. To the Yankee schedule. The Nationals
defending champs really good. So the Yankees face a significantly
tougher schedule. The Dodgers got a break. The West is weak,
the Padres, the Mariners, the Giants have been a mess
for years, Arizona is okay, the Rockies. The Dodgers get
a second big break. Like the Rappertors deserve a lot
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of credit, but they get the flexibility in their roster.
Left right, left, right, left, right, every other batters left,
every best batters right, big break. Then they get the
scheduling break, then they get a third break. The only
hole in the Dodgers lineup is the pitcher. Hits not
this year, both leagues using the DH, and they have
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a very deep roster. They can take Jock Peterson and
use him regularly as a DH. What did he have
thirty six jacks last year? Again, I'll give them credit.
But when you take a really good team and you
get a DH break, when you get a scheduling break,
when you get a roster where you're nine best hitters
five or left, four or right break, everything works for
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the Dodgers, who I believe have won seven straight division titles.
This is the year, this is the year to win it.
And also here's another break. Whereas the Yankees are excellent,
they have to get through Houston to get to a
World Series. The Dodgers biggest competition appears to be Atlanta,
a very good team bounced first round last couple of years.
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Nice team, good team, not a great team. Yet this
Dodger team has a chance to be an all timer.
And you add that to all their breaks. Watch out
people in this town. Have been complaining for years because
like the Braves years ago with Maddox and Smoltz, they
dominate their division. Braves only got one championship out of that.
Don't no matter how many of the Dodgers will get.
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But man, this stuff line up for them this year.
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noon Easter nine a Empacific. I'm so happy. I'm so
deliriously happy, and I wish Joey was here to share
it with us because we have sports. I sat there
last night and I'm flipping around watching MLS and Baseball
games and Yankee games and Dodger games and NBA, and
I'm like, oh my god. I went five and a
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half six and a half months. So it was just
such a great time. You know, this is what I
do for a living. I know for most of your like,
get a life, but this is what I do for
a living. We've had to basically make stuff up for
six months. We actually have games now, this is interesting.
Brian brot Us, he's a former NFL scout and he
used to work with the Cowboys, and he was on
radio yesterday The Fan in a Dallas very popular station
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and he said he was asked yesterday about you know,
how do you think Dak Prescott's feeling right now? And
he said, at this point, I don't think Dak Prescott's
very happy. He won't say it and he won't show it,
said Brotus, the former Scout, the kids of stud. He's
mentally very very strong, is a total stud, but he's
not real happy. And he liked Jason Garrett. And this
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is is an underlying truth going on with Dallas right now.
So Dak Prescott saved Jason Garrett's job and Jerry Jones
a fairly patient guy. But remember Cowboys went four and
twelve and then Tony Romo following year got hurt in preseason.
This was going to be a man overboard. This was
going to be a disaster. And then here comes Dak
in the draft, fourth round and he pops. Jason Garrett
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knows Dak saved his job. But they needed each other.
And when relationships really click is you both at least
need each other. That's why when you see a woman
who's sophisticated, great job Mary, you know, just a good
looking dumb guy, You're like, she doesn't need him as
much as he needs her like you need relationships where
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both people need each other. Dak needed Garrett to mentor
him and advise him. He's a former NFL quarterback Jason Garrett.
He needed his guidance, and Garrett needed Dak for stability
at the most important position, and he needed double us
and Dak helped provide those This is the problem with
Mike McCarthy. He doesn't need Dak. He just signed a
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five year, thirty million dollar deal. He doesn't. Mike McCarthy
doesn't need Dak for his legacy or a super Bowl.
He's got both. He doesn't need Dak for security. He's
a millionaire, just signed a five year, thirty million dollar
deal in a state with no state taxs. He doesn't
need Dak for money. So Mike doesn't need Dak. He's
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got security, a super Bowl, a legacy money. He doesn't
need him. I mean, you didn't think it was strange
when McCarthy got the job. It didn't call Dack for
a week. If you got the Kansas City chief's job,
how long would it take to call Maholmes. I mean,
on the second the press release comes out, Bob's the
new coach of the Chiefs. You're on the phone, Sam
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in Baltimore, Salmon, Seattle, Salmon, Green Bay, say and call
him for a week, could have been longer. That was
a story. So in what's interesting is whereas the job
security for Mike McCarthy right now is it's not great
for Deck. He's got a one year franchise tag deal.
And when you look at the I was talking about
the Dodgers getting breaks this year, on the no DH
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on the new bullpen rule, on their schedule Dallas. People
think Dallas's schedule is easy. People are saying it's one
of the easiest schedules, but it's actually because of the
weirdness of this year, not easy. Take a look at
it different. You're on FS one, so there's no tas,
no preseason limited practices, and Dallas has a new coach
and a new system. Look at their first three games
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Rams Atlanta, Seattle teams with the same quarterback, same system,
same head coach. That's how you start to see, okay, okay.
Then you get a couple of break games. But right
in the middle of the season at Philly, Pittsburgh in Minnesota,
same coach, same system, same quarterback. Then you get to
play Washington. Then it's back to Baltimore, San Francisco, Philadelphia,
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same coach, same system, same quarterback. Don't tell me Dallas
the schedule is easy the beginning, the heart of the
middle of November. In the end, it's just a bunch
of people who don't need the OTA like you, don't
need the preseason like you, and are not implementing a
new system. So when relationships are at their best, all
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of them home relationships, you know, work relationships when both
people need each other. McCarthy doesn't need Dak. McCarthy needed Garrett,
and Garrett absolutely needed Dak. Jerry can be patient. He's
not insane. They came off four and twelve. The wheels
are coming off. Romo gets hurt. They were in big trouble.
So this story, to me, I don't think Dax's listen.
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Quarterback Howie Long always says this, you get quarterbacks in
the room. He can't have two great quarterbacks in the
room at the same time to take the acgen out
of the room. I like Dak, but he's has a
right to have pride. He's won a lot of football games.
He's won his division twice. He's not in love with
this thing. He's had a nice press release. I'm very
happy he got a one year deal after winning the
division two of the last what four years, So he's
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probably this relationship with McCarthy is not the same. It's
uneven right now. It may not be by week eight.
But Garrett and Dac that felt like an even relationship.
They both needed each other, both supported each other. If
one succeeded, it helped the other. Right now, I'm not
sure with McCarthy in DACT that's the case. One more Herd.
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live or on demand whenever you like. Let me talk
about support for a second. Like, we all have egoes, right,
If you're successful in life, you're like, yeah, deserve a
lot of credit. I'm very smart, and you probably are
if you've had a very successful life. But be honest
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with yourself. You got support. You got help, maybe from
your dad, maybe from a boss, maybe from an agent,
somebody that believed in you. I've worked hard, but man,
I've gotten help. And Adam Gase got ripped again. Head
coach of the Jets by Jamal Adams. Jamal Adams called
him out yesterday and he blistered him, and he blistered
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him publicly. And Jamal Adams is a great player and
he can say what he wants, but it's not a
good day to be Adam Gaze. Yesterday, Jamal Adams came
out and say I don't think he's the right leader
for the team to take us to the Promised Land.
Really bothers me. Doesn't have a relationship with everybody in
the building. He doesn't address the team. If there's a
problem in the locker room, he lets another coach address it.
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If we're playing like crap and we're losing, he doesn't
address the entire team as a group. At halftime, we
walk out of the locker room and let another coach
handle it. He said, I'm gonna play for my teammates.
I am not here to say Adam gas is perfect
or that Jamal Adams is wrong. What I'm here to
say is I trust my NFL sources, got a lot
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of them, and I talked to him. Kyle Shanahan is
thought of as the smartest young coach in the NFL.
People tell me Adam Gase has a lot of Kyle
Shanahan qualities, really intense, can shut people out occasionally, really smart,
almost intimidatingly intense. But there's a difference here. Kyle Shanahan
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has an advisor named Mike Shanahan, top ten coach in
NFL history. Mike Shanahan watches every practice, and Kyle Shanahan
can call his dad, and his dad can talk him
off the cliff or give him advice. Adam Gase doesn't
have that. His dad don't know him. Was a construction
for him and fine job, but he didn't have Mike
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Shanahan to call. And then Kyle Shanahan has maybe the
most likable person I've ever met in the NFL. John
Lynch Stanford Educated, played the game as a general manager
till once again, bad day talk him off the cliff.
Adam Gase barely knows his GM. He didn't hire him,
nor did he hire his defensive coordinator, Greg Williams, and
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reportedly Williams and Adam Gase aren't tight. Kyle Shanahan's defensive coordinators,
Robert Sala, excellent young football coach, would step in front
of a train for his head coach. The owner of
the San Francisco forty nine ers, generally well received, got
a little bumpy with Jim tom Sula, the owner of
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the New York Jets. Do you read the stories this
week about Woody Johnson? Not great support matters. I'm not
saying Adam Gase is perfect, but his career record is
thirty and thirty four with two totally dysfunctional teams. You
know what, Kyle Shanahan's career record is twenty three and
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twenty five. I mean Kyle Shanahan because Jimmy Garoppolo had
a bad fourth quarter. You saw those stories come out.
They wanted to get rid of Garoppolo and then he
probably called his dad, Mike or talked to John. And
I'm not blaming Kyle Shanahan. I think he's the best
young football coach in America. But he's young. He's lost
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a couple of big games. But he's got advisers and
an owner and a GM and a defensive coordinator who
have his back, who are there to help him. As
stuff matters when you're young and don't quite have the
trophy yet. Adam Gase has none of that. Dad wasn't
a legendary coach. Defensive coordinator wants his job, Owners constantly
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in trouble, nothing but chaos, and now your star players
calling out publicly in the number one media market in
the country, not saying Adam Gas is great, but you
cannot find me a single great NFL coach or GM
who didn't have support. Go look at Belichick's career. Why
do you think he gets emotional on those thirty for
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thirties when he walks through the halls of New York
Giant Stadium. He knows the support he had from the
Mara family. Why do you think Bill parcels and he
you know, it's a little prickly when they're together because
he learned a lot from Bill, and Bill learned a
lot from him. You cannot cannot succeed to the highest
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levels without having somebody there to help you through the bumps.
Kyle's got him, Adam, doesn't I feel bad for him?
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us again fourteen seasons with the Dodgers. Okay, when you
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look at the Dodgers lineup, what do you see? Eric?
I see a team that does not have any weaknesses,
and it's pretty tough to say that, and over a
course of maybe one hundred and sixty two games, there
will present itself some vulnerabilities. But man, with this Dodgers
club right now, I mean, you see what happens. Kershaw
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gets scratched. They bring up Dustin May, who was not
even on the thirty man roster, and he's thrown one
hundred miles an hour. You know, as a nice outing
the Dodgers, you know, a little slow out of the gate,
but with that lineup, they're going to wear you down,
and you know, they end up winning the eight one.
I think you know I said this, Eric, they get
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a couple of breaks. Number one, their schedules much easier
than say the Astros or the Yankees. Number two is
with this, you got to come in from the bullpen
and finish the inning or get at least three batters out.
With the Dodgers lineup where five of the best hitters
or lefties, four of the best hitters or rights, you
can't you can't do it, Tony LaRussa and calling the
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other guy and the other guy. It feels like it
plays right into the Dodgers roster hands. Yeah, I mean
that's something that's going to present other manager, you know,
opposing managers problems either the depth. I think what's going
to separate them from anybody as the depth, because everybody
is going to be dealing with, you know, the great unknown,
you know, this next couple of months, and that's health,
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whether that's COVID or whether that's injury. And because of
their depth, you know, look at the reality is they
could probably run out two big league starting rotations. They
could probably run out two big league teams, competitive big
league teams, and I don't think there are any There
are many other organizations that can do that. Now, maybe
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the one through nine or competitive or one through fourteen
or competitive. Look at the Yankees are obviously a very
deep team, but I don't know that they have the
lineup that the Dodgers have that. The Dodgers are so versatile,
that's it's what makes them crazy. And if you watch
the last night's game, Bets and Bellinger impacted the game
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with their legs, base running, hustle plays. And I'm not
talking about hitting the ball over the fence. I'm not
talking about making a great defensive play. I'm talking about
a hustle play from third where Mookie Bets scores, and
another one where Bellinger gets in a rundown and allows
runners to get the second and third and then you
know base hit two run score. They're so virtaile. I mean,
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I can go on and on about them. Yeah, the
Mookie Bets contract. The Dodgers lead baseball attendance by a
long shot. They've got, next to the Yankees, the biggest
revenue stream in baseball. And I said this yesterday. You
go to Dodger Stadium. It is just they got it.
They got it figured out, they got it buttoned up there,
and they're always updating it. And I look at the
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Mookie Bets contract and I think thirty million bucks does
not feel prohibitive. But Mike Trout thirty five with the
Angels does kind of feel prohibitive. How do you think,
I mean, the Dodgers have been reluctant to hand out
big deals despite their revenue. What did you make of
the contract? I mean, this is going to sound crazy,
but it's a great deal for the Dodgers. I think
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the Dodgers got a bargain. And and the reason I
say that, look at Andrew Friedman has constructed this ball
club to where he didn't have any payroll liability beyond
twenty twenty two. So he has been structuring the payroll
for this moment and for this type of player. So
Mookie Bets comes into spring training and immediately, you know,
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makes an impact with a clubhouse, speech, the leadership, the
way he assimilates with the ball club. As good as
he is on the field, he may make more of
an impact with this organization off the field. And that's
crazy to say, but it's it's true, and not only
with his teammates, but also within the community socially. There
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are so many tentacles to this contract that again, I
think Andrew Friedman hit an absolute home run, and Mookie
Betts is going to assimilate into this community and this
organization as well as you could possibly expect. I mean,
this couldn't have been drawn up any better. So I'm
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watching NAT's Yankees last night, and it is weird. You
got nine stars in that game, and it is there's
just no there's nothing, I mean, there's just it. You know,
you're going to have empty stadiums. And I was saying
this to John Smaltz the other day. I don't know,
so I'll ask you eventually how it affects hitters. But
as a pitcher, I remember talking to Kirk Shilling about this, like,
you get into these big moments and you know, you're
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in the eighth inning and you've got about two fastballs
left in the mid nineties, and you're sitting on that mound,
and you can't tell me Fenway Park, you can't tell me.
Yankee Stadium, you can't tell me. I don't get a
little juice from the crowd to rear back and throw
ninety six for one of the last two times. And
John Smult agreed. He said, there's there's no question that
you feed as a pitcher in later innings. That crowd
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absolutely elevates you as a batter. Does it matter at all,
crowd or no. Absolutely, I mean, the adrenaline gets going.
So now I've got to find something else to get me,
you know, there's a lack of a better phrase, but
to get me pissed off, to get me fired up,
to get me. And I can draw on that. It's
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it's no different than it's really no different than an
actor having to cry right, And so they've got to
draw on some experience to create that emotion. So now
I'm playing, so I've got to think what's at stake
or create some sort of uh false narrative outside of
fans and screaming and yelling, and I can draw on
that and for each each player it's going to be
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something different. Right, Um, maybe I absolutely maybe the guy
out on the mound I have a dislike form for
for some reason I and maybe I can I can
create that dislike. Um, maybe maybe that at bad at
the plate. I'm I'm I'm doing it for my my kid, right,
I'm doing it for like my family. There's there's got
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to be something and you will create that and your
your teammates can help you create that as well. And
I think as we go on in the next you know,
the next couple of weeks, and you know, guys have
had a little bit of it with with with this
the you know the summer campus spring training stuff. The
you're going to find out what makes you tick and
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what what creates that that adrenaline because it is going
to the fans. They were there and you didn't have
to create it yourself. And now you will have to
find something and guys will find something yeah, we're lucky
this year. We have the Yankees, we have the Dodgers.
I don't know. If I ask you this in a
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sixty game season, the truth of the matter is your
flaws may not be unveiled, and if they are, you're
still in playoff contention. I mean in one hundred and
sixty to two season by June, if you're if you've
got a bad infield, you're just you're I'm going to
see it, Helen. Sixty games, you can fool people for
twenty five? Is there one crazy team in this sport?
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And you think to yourself, I don't know, but they
benefit from a lack of a full season, well, the
lack of a full season for me right now, I mean,
I think the Astros benefit the most from all of this,
right just because of the no fan experience. If you're
talking about now, you know, can a team with a
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shortened season physically I'd say the White Sox because they
are young enough, athletic enough. They don't they could This
could be their hot streak, these sixty games, right and
where they don't get exposed over one hundred and sixty two. Uh,
you know, they could sneak through with their pitching, they could.
And that's a team that you know, uh, one of
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my colleague, Frank Thomas, you know, he's actually talked about
them going to the World Series. Now, I'm not going
to go that far at all, but that's a team
that that I could see, you know what they could,
They could sneak through it if they stay injury free.
The Reds are another team as well that that benefit
from from sixty game season. Um, you know, look at
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this season is going to be so fun. It really is.
And because there's so much unpredictability and they're gonna be
there's gonna be something happening every day where people are
gonna go, oh my goodness, whether it was Soto yesterday
not being able to play for the Nationals to the
two catchers for the Braves today can't suit up, so
that changes. I mean, it's it is crazy. What's gonna
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be going on. It's gonna be so fun to watch
Eric Carroll fourteen years the bigs Fox Sports could talk
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Thirteen years in the NFL, A four time Pro bowlder.
So I gotta address the New York Jets situation. So
Jamal Adams is a great player. Jamal Adams comes out
yesterday and says that the head coach, Adam Gase, is
not the coach to take us to the Promised Land.
This is in the paper. He says he doesn't have
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relationships with players. If we're playing lousy, he doesn't address
us at half. He sends other coaches to do it.
I don't think I've ever seen a player make it
this personal in my life with a coach. Now and
Jamal Adams, they're coming back this year. I doubt the
Jets trade him. He's too talented. Your first reaction to that,
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what is that going to do to a locker room?
First of all, that's very disturbing to hear. And when
you have a player talking like that, he's talking like
that for a reason. He's not just saying that just
to be saying that. And you're talking about the leader
of the football team, you know, not the quarterback, the coach.
He the ones that has the guide all of these
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young men to be better man and better football players.
And when you got to stop players saying that, you know,
that's gonna reverberate around the locker room. It's gonna be whistlers.
Everybody's gonna take notice and started, you know, paying post
attention to where Adam Gates is doing. And you know
when things like this happening, comments like this and made
you lose the locker room. And I don't know if
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you can bounce back from this. It's gonna be tough
because unless everybody gets it together and figure out a
way to make this work, it's gonna be a tough
season for the New York Jets. And I hate that
this had to happen, you know, at this time of
the year, right before the start of training camp. It's
interesting because I'm not gonna defend Adam Gaze, but I'll
throw this out there. Is it possible that Adam Gase
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is of an offensive coach and he doesn't he doesn't
talk with his defensive players. Now take me back to
your career. Did Andy Reid talk? Did he have relationships
with defensive players? Yeah? You see, coach read you know
a lot about the defensive side of the ball. So
he was able to help his defensive coaches. And I've
seen it because I was right there watching firsthand. I've
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been the meeting with Andy and the defensive coaching walk
in and they'll talk defense or you know, he spent
time with everyone. So so to not have, you know,
that defensive touch or denowledge of what the defense has
to be doing means you mean, you catered to the
offensive side of the ball, and it shows it. That's
all you care about. But you have to be able
to lead those guys in defense as well. And I
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seen him communicate with everyone, um, you know, and he
was just as close as the defensive players as he
was or offensive players, And I thought that was special.
Do you, Michael, go back to high school? High school,
then you had a college Frank Biemer, then you go
to the NFL. Did you have to like your coach?
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You have to like your coach. You don't have to
necessarily agree on everything, but you all have to have
a common respect, a mutual respect for one another in
order to move forward and win, especially when you're a
star caliber player. When when you're in that position, communication
has to be constant and consistent, and when it's not,
these type of things are gonna happen. You're gonna have guys,
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you know, talking and saying things that he probably shouldn't
say within the media. Um, but you know, as as
a leader of the team, you know, guy like Jamal
Adams got to speak out on things like this because
it just needs to be said when it's sitting, when
it's when it's brought about like this. Did you ever
have a team where, um, what was the best locker
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room you were ever at where there was real unity
and everybody was really on the same page. And I understand,
I mean you got fifty year millionaires, you got veteran guys,
you got young guys, you got stars, you got guys
who are just like gunners on Special Team. I understand
that some guy everybody thinks they're better than they are.
They want to get paid. But what was the best
locker room you ever at? Man? I would have to
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say I had some great times in Atlanta. I can't
take credit away from what we built and the chemistry
we had within the locker room, the camaraderie. Um. You know,
certainly when I got to Philadelphia, it was a different
dynamic because it was it was the old end and
knew it was the Sean and Li Shan in Germany.
You know, the younger, the younger, the next generation along
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with older guys like myself and Brian Westbrook and Donovan
and we just had that mess. We had that um
togetherness because we could all relate on so many levels.
We knew about, you know, what the younger guys were
going through, and we was able to teach them and
then we was also able to learn from them as well. Um.
So the locker room in Philadelphia was so diverse. Man,
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all the defensive players got along with the offensive players,
and you know, we our battles and our struggles on
the field led tied togetherness off the field. And you
know those guys you know, were dynamic in their own right.
And then you know, the Jets locker room was amazing then.
And then I would say close to that was the
Pittsburgh Stills locker room. You know, it was no egos,
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you know, all across the board, and guys came to
work every day and they believed in it and they
followed their leader. And being robbed this burglar and that's
what made it a great experience you know, it's interesting
I was saying about the Cowboys and Dak Prescott. So
the reason I think that Dak Prescott and Jason Garrett
worked is they both needed each other. Dak breaks into
the league and he needs he needs to understand that,
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he needs mentorship. And Jason Garrett had quarterback in the league,
so he needs him. And then Jason Garrett needed Dak
because they were four and twelve year before. Tony Romo
got hurt again in the preseason. So Jason Garrett, you
can't win in this league if you don't have a
starting quarterback. So he needed the stability and Dak provided
that in one games. So it worked because they needed
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each other, and I and I contend they're both good
for each other. But then here's Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy's
already got a Super Bowl, he got a five year,
thirty million dollars deal. He didn't need Dak for money,
he doesn't need him for security, he doesn't need him
for his legacy, he doesn't need him for his Super Bowl.
And he's worked with Farvin Rodgers. I wonder because there's
a story out today from somebody inside the Cowboy locker
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room that Dak was really not happy with Jason Garrett
being let go. And again I want to ask you
on personal experiences, do you think it's possible Dak's thinking, Hey,
Garrett had my back, I don't know if McCarthy has
my back. Do you think that's possible. That's normal the
quarterback position to fill that way. Hey, look, I was
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living when Andy Reid got fired. You know, I was
upset when when when Dan Reeves got fired. You know
I was upset when when Jim Moore got fired, and
I felt like, man, we just needed a couple more
seasons to get this right. You know, it's normal for
a quarterback to fill that way and say those type
of things. But you know that the best thing for
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the team right now. You know that's not the quarterback's
decision to make. So um, But when when Andy was fired,
you know, in twenty thirteen and Chip Kellyman's coming in,
I felt like I was just kind of left out then,
and you know what was next for me? Am I
going to be accepted? You know? Am I going to
be in a quarterback battle? You know, all these things
run through your head and it's realistic thoughts for a
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quarterback like that was a very competitive quarterback. So yeah,
of course those feelings and those relationships, uh, you know,
they're real. You know, it's a real thing, and when
they're seven sometimes things come out. But it's up to
that now because I've been through it. Now you have
to start to develop that relationship with a new coach
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and get the norm. It's just going to take time.
Like anything else in life that you want to perfect
and be great at, you know, you gotta put the
time into it so that MESSI will come over time.
That's interesting. We were talking yesterday about Cam Newton and
we said it'd be one thing if he had an
OTA in New England and a full preseason in New
England and forty five fifty five practices. He's got none
of there. So you tell me how long did it take?
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Because I think Belichick's a great coaching and he reads
a great coach. How many practices did you need with
Andy Reid before you got behind the center and you
felt like, Okay, I'm humming on this thing. I don't
I don't have to sit here and it's kind of
becoming natural to me. Damn, good question, because when I
think about all the questions that I've answered about Cam,
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and you know, people saying he's gonna start and he
should be out in the field in the beginning of
the year, Cam camp be put in a bad situation
and Bill Belichick won't do that. He can't go out
there if he don't have, you know, a true understanding
of the offense, which takes time, and he hasn't had
any OTA's had. You know, won't get any real preseason
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or training camp reps right now, and it's not gonna
be you know, the most effective for Kim. Yes, he
can get out here, he can throw as much as
he can. I believe he's in shake. But you know,
the knowledge is powered at the quarterback position, and I
think Cam will probably understand that. So we can't get
the cart before the horse right here. You know, it's
impossible to go out there and play if you don't understand,
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you know, exactly what you know needs to happen. You know,
every particular playing, Cam's gonna need some time, he's gonna
need some reps. He's gonna get a lot of drops,
and that this time right here is not helping them.
But he can take advantage of every rep um you know,
if he's not going into it, you know, the season
hasn't started. He can take advantage of every rep. You know,
live by Kearson through Sidham, you know, learn from from
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the background, and there's nothing wrong with that. The pay
dividend is in a long term by the way, you're
a college football star, but when you came into the NFL,
you gotta sit for a year. Joe Burrow's not gonna
sit for a year. My gut feeling is too uh
is gonna be too good at practice. He's not gonna
get a year to set um. It is strange you
go from college football to pro football. Difference system, different scheme,
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edge rushers are faster. When you when you went to
the NFL and you didn't have to start first game,
But when you went to practice for the first time, like,
what did you notice the biggest difference between college and
pro football? For you and you were a world class athlete,
but what was the how many practices before you started
noticing the gap in talent, speed and pass rushing. It
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was after my first practice that I knew I was
going to have to put an immense amount of work
into getting caught up to speed. First and foremost for
the offense and being able to just verbalize everything that
needs to be said in the huddle, getting out of
the huddle, getting to the line of scrimmage was something
that was just, you know, so new and and the
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process had to be expedited because you know, when you
number two on practice and your reps are up, you
know it's your rep. You gotta step up. So so
I was like, man, I just need reps. I need reps.
But Chris Chandler was there and I sat behind him,
so I just had to really be keen in and
watching him and studying everything that he did, every move.
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Even though our games was totally different, different styles, I
wanted what he had in the passing game. So I
needed those reps and I needed him now. But I
didn't get them, and it hurt me as far as development,
and that's why I wasn't ready until my second year.
But uh, you know, young guys who are thrown into
the fire gonna learn faster because they're gonna make mistakes
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and learn from them. Yeah, he's in Fort Lauderdale. You
can see all those beautiful He's got trophies behind them,
He's got all sorts of stuff looking good. Over here. Yeah, yeah,
I can tell you're not golfing today. That's like a
that's like a go out. That's a good looking shirt.
That's I take your wife out to dinner shirt right there.
But absolutely, even though I'm staying COVID free, you know,
maybe I order out tonight bringing something, man, but I
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just wanted to walk around and look good, to feel
good today. Go up the gun little gun show there,
looking very good, Michael, good seeing anybody, Thank you, good
seeing you
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It is a great show today. We are packed, got
a lot of guests, got a lot of opinions. I'm
even talking baseball today, Eric Carros next hour, I've got
some thoughts on the Dodgers and the Yankees. In a second,
I want to start the show on a Friday with this.
You know, let's let's not kid ourselves here, So I
watched Dallas Maverick's Lakers about four o'clock Pacific. I love
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Dallas's roster. I just love it. I just I would.
If you're Mark Cuban, you have just got to love this.
You found your next Dirk Nevitski, except he's better Luca
don jas You got Seth Curry from Portland. What a
nice find that kid's been this Dallas is gonna be
really good for the next decade. I mean, they may
have the scoring champ five of the next ten years
in Luca don Jach. The kid's twenty years old. He's
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way ahead of Lebron in terms of scoring ability. He's
a tremendous young player. And I'm watching that game and
I'm like, Dallas's roster is younger, it's deeper, it's more athletic.
They have a twenty year old that's going to be
a star in this league for the next fifteen years.
And I look at the Lakers and I'm like, good God,
if you took Lebron out of this lineup, it's a
reality show. It's he is the super glue to a mess.
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Kyle Kuzma was awful last night. I mean, I like
Danny Green, but he's thirty three. He's old. I like
Anthony Davis a lot, but he's brittle. This roster JaVale McGee,
Dion Waiters j R. Smith, Dwight Howard, and KCP. If
it was a reality show, if this was hard Knox
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sign it to a lifetime deal. This is a mess.
It really is. If you take Lebron James out of
this Laker roster, all you Laker fans, this is the
Pelicans with Anthony Davis, except not as talented because they
had Drew Holliday, who's a total baller. Drew Holliday is
an excellent NBA player, that's an All Star level player.
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This roster for the Lakers is it is. This is
not well constructed. Lebron is completely super glue with this team.
And this is why, of course Lebron's gonna be the MVP,
or at least should be. I mean, if you take
Janis out of Milwaukee, they're not the same team. Nobody
would dispute that. But that's a playoff team. It's well coached,
they have multiple good players. This Laker roster is old, dysfunctional.
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It's got some of the goofiest players in the NBA
on it, all of them, all of them out of
their prime. Dwight Howard Jr. Smith, theon Waiters, JaVale McGee,
Kyle Kuzma. I'm not sure what his prime is, KCPI
like I do. I think there's something there. But you
know he's had Hisshues house arrest two years ago. I mean,
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that's just the thing. It's part of his you know,
his NBA reality. But just to give your heads up
on this, Dallas has a way better roster. It's younger,
it's more athletic, and they got a start at twenty.
If Lebron wins a title with this reality show, goat,
I'm over. I'm not even arguing it because they have
no business winning. They got to go through potentially Portland, Houston,
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the Clippers, and then a Milwaukee or Boston. I mean,
you're watching this thing last night. Take Lebron out of this.
Look at this roster. It is Anthony Davis and cross
your fingers. And Lebron is strong enough and verbal enough
and vocal enough and the leader so that all these
sort of disparate, weird, odd NBA reality show dysfunctional parts
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kind of they kind of respect him. They work hard
out of respect for the King. They kind of make
sure they're in line. But you got j R. Smith yesterday.
I didn't. I didn't bring enough underwear. Dwight Howard, I
refuse to wear a mask. Oh God, the only thing
this team is missing is Antonio Brown. It is never
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forget this. Before Lebron got there, it was a you
know what show for about five years. Magic Gone Agent,
new GM owners fighting with each other, brothers, sister, God,
I'm watching this thing last night. Man. They are Lebron
is superglueing this thing together. They have no business being
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the number one seed in the West by five and
a half games. They have no business being met No way,
no way, no how, number one seed in the West
by five and a half games. I love where Dallas
is going. I just like Lebron because right now that
the Lakers are the second best constructed basketball team in
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the building they play in by a mile. All right,
let me talk to some baseball. Watch a couple of
games last night, Yes I did. Dodgers won. They're really good.
The way it works in sports is when you're really
good and you combine that with getting a break, you
often end up winning a championship in any sport. So
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you're really good and you get a break. The example
would be Toronto last year. Now they deserve credit for
getting into the finals. Smart GM, excellent coach, nice roster,
ad Kahi, Leonard Stirr. Really good. But let's be honest,
Golden State fell apart, Steph got hurt, Clay got hurt,
Kevin Durant got hurt. They were an overwhelming favorite. They
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would have won. When Kevin Durant came back for third
team minutes boom, they looked like the better team. But
that's the breaks. It was a very good team with
a very good GM and a very good coats and
a nice roster, a nice mix of veterans in youth
and Kawhi Leonard, but they got a big break. When
you get when you do a lot right and then
you get a break, you usually end up winning a championship.
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This Dodger team is really good. Let's start with this.
It is the first team since the New York Yankees
in nineteen sixty three when they had Mickey Mannlin Roger Merris.
It's the first team with an MVP from each of
the previous two seasons. Cody Bellinger and Mookie Bets. They
are stacked. Max Munsey hit thirty five, Jack's last two years.
Mookie Betts is the MVP. Cody Bellinger was a National
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League MVP. Justin Turner hit twenty seven, Jacks Corey Seeger
was the Rookie of the Year four years back. Kik Hernandez,
Jack Peterson coming off great years. And look at their roster.
Munsey beats left, Bets right, Bellinger left, Turner, right, Seeger left,
kik Hernandez right, Jack Peterson, who will probably platoon as
a DH left, AJ Pollock right. Now. This is a
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big thing. So there's a very good baseball team, and
so are the Yankees, and so are the Astros. These
are very good baseball teams. But the Dodgers, like the Raptors,
are getting a break. There's a new rule in baseball
this year for twenty twenty. You go to the bullpen,
guy's got to face minimum three batters or finish the inning.
Huge break for the Dodgers. The Yankees best hitters are
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all Righty's, the Dodgers aren't. So you come into an
inning and you start having trouble. You're getting no breaks here.
It's not righty on righty. They can throw lefty, lefty, righty, lefty, righty, lefty.
Big break for the Dodgers. Second break, and the Dodgers
get credit for creating this roster. I'm not saying like
the Raptors, they don't deserve credit, but boy, all this
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situational stuff going to the bullpen three times in an
inning can do it this year. Big break for the Dodgers.
Second break. The Yankees just happened. Doing a sixty game schedule.
You're only playing your division and people in your region, well,
Yankees regions much tougher. The Phillies should be very good
in their division. You've got the Rays and the Red
Sox are very good. This is a really Phillies are
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going to be excellent. To the Yankee schedule. The Nationals
defending champs really good. So the Yankees face a significantly
tougher schedule. The Dodgers got a break. The West is weak,
the Padres, the Mariners, the Giants have been a mess
for years, Arizona is okay, the Rockies. The Dodgers get
a second big break. Like the Rappertors deserve a lot
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of credit, but they get the flexibility in their roster.
Left right, left, right, left, right, every other batters left,
every best batters right, big break. Then they get the
scheduling break, then they get a third break. The only
hole in the Dodgers lineup is the pitcher. Hits not
this year, both leagues using the DH, and they have
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a very deep roster. They can take Jock Peterson and
use him regularly as a DH. What did he have
thirty six jacks last year? Again, I'll give them credit.
But when you take a really good team and you
get a DH break, when you get a scheduling break,
when you get a roster where you're nine best hitters
five or left, four or right break, everything works for
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the Dodgers, who I believe have won seven straight division titles.
This is the year, this is the year to win it.
And also here's another break. Whereas the Yankees are excellent,
they have to get through Houston to get to a
World Series. The Dodgers biggest competition appears to be Atlanta,
a very good team bounced first round last couple of years.
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Nice team, good team, not a great team. Yet this
Dodger team has a chance to be an all timer.
And you add that to all their breaks. Watch out
people in this town. Have been complaining for years because
like the Braves years ago with Maddox and Smoltz, they
dominate their division. Braves only got one championship out of that.
Don't no matter how many of the Dodgers will get.
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But man, this stuff line up for them this year.
Sure to catch live editions of The Herd week dayson
noon Easter nine a Empacific. I'm so happy. I'm so
deliriously happy, and I wish Joey was here to share
it with us because we have sports. I sat there
last night and I'm flipping around watching MLS and Baseball
games and Yankee games and Dodger games and NBA, and
I'm like, oh my god. I went five and a
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half six and a half months. So it was just
such a great time. You know, this is what I
do for a living. I know for most of your like,
get a life, but this is what I do for
a living. We've had to basically make stuff up for
six months. We actually have games now, this is interesting.
Brian brot Us, he's a former NFL scout and he
used to work with the Cowboys, and he was on
radio yesterday The Fan in a Dallas very popular station
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and he said he was asked yesterday about you know,
how do you think Dak Prescott's feeling right now? And
he said, at this point, I don't think Dak Prescott's
very happy. He won't say it and he won't show it,
said Brotus, the former Scout, the kids of stud. He's
mentally very very strong, is a total stud, but he's
not real happy. And he liked Jason Garrett. And this
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is is an underlying truth going on with Dallas right now.
So Dak Prescott saved Jason Garrett's job and Jerry Jones
a fairly patient guy. But remember Cowboys went four and
twelve and then Tony Romo following year got hurt in preseason.
This was going to be a man overboard. This was
going to be a disaster. And then here comes Dak
in the draft, fourth round and he pops. Jason Garrett
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knows Dak saved his job. But they needed each other.
And when relationships really click is you both at least
need each other. That's why when you see a woman
who's sophisticated, great job Mary, you know, just a good
looking dumb guy, You're like, she doesn't need him as
much as he needs her like you need relationships where
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both people need each other. Dak needed Garrett to mentor
him and advise him. He's a former NFL quarterback Jason Garrett.
He needed his guidance, and Garrett needed Dak for stability
at the most important position, and he needed double us
and Dak helped provide those This is the problem with
Mike McCarthy. He doesn't need Dak. He just signed a
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five year, thirty million dollar deal. He doesn't. Mike McCarthy
doesn't need Dak for his legacy or a super Bowl.
He's got both. He doesn't need Dak for security. He's
a millionaire, just signed a five year, thirty million dollar
deal in a state with no state taxs. He doesn't
need Dak for money. So Mike doesn't need Dak. He's
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got security, a super Bowl, a legacy money. He doesn't
need him. I mean, you didn't think it was strange
when McCarthy got the job. It didn't call Dack for
a week. If you got the Kansas City chief's job,
how long would it take to call Maholmes. I mean,
on the second the press release comes out, Bob's the
new coach of the Chiefs. You're on the phone, Sam
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in Baltimore, Salmon, Seattle, Salmon, Green Bay, say and call
him for a week, could have been longer. That was
a story. So in what's interesting is whereas the job
security for Mike McCarthy right now is it's not great
for Deck. He's got a one year franchise tag deal.
And when you look at the I was talking about
the Dodgers getting breaks this year, on the no DH
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on the new bullpen rule, on their schedule Dallas. People
think Dallas's schedule is easy. People are saying it's one
of the easiest schedules, but it's actually because of the
weirdness of this year, not easy. Take a look at
it different. You're on FS one, so there's no tas,
no preseason limited practices, and Dallas has a new coach
and a new system. Look at their first three games
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Rams Atlanta, Seattle teams with the same quarterback, same system,
same head coach. That's how you start to see, okay, okay.
Then you get a couple of break games. But right
in the middle of the season at Philly, Pittsburgh in Minnesota,
same coach, same system, same quarterback. Then you get to
play Washington. Then it's back to Baltimore, San Francisco, Philadelphia,
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same coach, same system, same quarterback. Don't tell me Dallas
the schedule is easy the beginning, the heart of the
middle of November. In the end, it's just a bunch
of people who don't need the OTA like you, don't
need the preseason like you, and are not implementing a
new system. So when relationships are at their best, all
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of them home relationships, you know, work relationships when both
people need each other. McCarthy doesn't need Dak. McCarthy needed Garrett,
and Garrett absolutely needed Dak. Jerry can be patient. He's
not insane. They came off four and twelve. The wheels
are coming off. Romo gets hurt. They were in big trouble.
So this story, to me, I don't think Dax's listen.
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Quarterback Howie Long always says this, you get quarterbacks in
the room. He can't have two great quarterbacks in the
room at the same time to take the acgen out
of the room. I like Dak, but he's has a
right to have pride. He's won a lot of football games.
He's won his division twice. He's not in love with
this thing. He's had a nice press release. I'm very
happy he got a one year deal after winning the
division two of the last what four years, So he's
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probably this relationship with McCarthy is not the same. It's
uneven right now. It may not be by week eight.
But Garrett and Dac that felt like an even relationship.
They both needed each other, both supported each other. If
one succeeded, it helped the other. Right now, I'm not
sure with McCarthy in DACT that's the case. One more Herd.
The Herd streams twenty four hours a day, seven days
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live or on demand whenever you like. Let me talk
about support for a second. Like, we all have egoes, right,
If you're successful in life, you're like, yeah, deserve a
lot of credit. I'm very smart, and you probably are
if you've had a very successful life. But be honest
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with yourself. You got support. You got help, maybe from
your dad, maybe from a boss, maybe from an agent,
somebody that believed in you. I've worked hard, but man,
I've gotten help. And Adam Gase got ripped again. Head
coach of the Jets by Jamal Adams. Jamal Adams called
him out yesterday and he blistered him, and he blistered
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him publicly. And Jamal Adams is a great player and
he can say what he wants, but it's not a
good day to be Adam Gaze. Yesterday, Jamal Adams came
out and say I don't think he's the right leader
for the team to take us to the Promised Land.
Really bothers me. Doesn't have a relationship with everybody in
the building. He doesn't address the team. If there's a
problem in the locker room, he lets another coach address it.
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If we're playing like crap and we're losing, he doesn't
address the entire team as a group. At halftime, we
walk out of the locker room and let another coach
handle it. He said, I'm gonna play for my teammates.
I am not here to say Adam gas is perfect
or that Jamal Adams is wrong. What I'm here to
say is I trust my NFL sources, got a lot
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of them, and I talked to him. Kyle Shanahan is
thought of as the smartest young coach in the NFL.
People tell me Adam Gase has a lot of Kyle
Shanahan qualities, really intense, can shut people out occasionally, really smart,
almost intimidatingly intense. But there's a difference here. Kyle Shanahan
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has an advisor named Mike Shanahan, top ten coach in
NFL history. Mike Shanahan watches every practice, and Kyle Shanahan
can call his dad, and his dad can talk him
off the cliff or give him advice. Adam Gase doesn't
have that. His dad don't know him. Was a construction
for him and fine job, but he didn't have Mike
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Shanahan to call. And then Kyle Shanahan has maybe the
most likable person I've ever met in the NFL. John
Lynch Stanford Educated, played the game as a general manager
till once again, bad day talk him off the cliff.
Adam Gase barely knows his GM. He didn't hire him,
nor did he hire his defensive coordinator, Greg Williams, and
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reportedly Williams and Adam Gase aren't tight. Kyle Shanahan's defensive coordinators,
Robert Sala, excellent young football coach, would step in front
of a train for his head coach. The owner of
the San Francisco forty nine ers, generally well received, got
a little bumpy with Jim tom Sula, the owner of
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the New York Jets. Do you read the stories this
week about Woody Johnson? Not great support matters. I'm not
saying Adam Gase is perfect, but his career record is
thirty and thirty four with two totally dysfunctional teams. You
know what, Kyle Shanahan's career record is twenty three and
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twenty five. I mean Kyle Shanahan because Jimmy Garoppolo had
a bad fourth quarter. You saw those stories come out.
They wanted to get rid of Garoppolo and then he
probably called his dad, Mike or talked to John. And
I'm not blaming Kyle Shanahan. I think he's the best
young football coach in America. But he's young. He's lost
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a couple of big games. But he's got advisers and
an owner and a GM and a defensive coordinator who
have his back, who are there to help him. As
stuff matters when you're young and don't quite have the
trophy yet. Adam Gase has none of that. Dad wasn't
a legendary coach. Defensive coordinator wants his job, Owners constantly
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in trouble, nothing but chaos, and now your star players
calling out publicly in the number one media market in
the country, not saying Adam Gas is great, but you
cannot find me a single great NFL coach or GM
who didn't have support. Go look at Belichick's career. Why
do you think he gets emotional on those thirty for
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thirties when he walks through the halls of New York
Giant Stadium. He knows the support he had from the
Mara family. Why do you think Bill parcels and he
you know, it's a little prickly when they're together because
he learned a lot from Bill, and Bill learned a
lot from him. You cannot cannot succeed to the highest
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levels without having somebody there to help you through the bumps.
Kyle's got him, Adam, doesn't I feel bad for him?
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FS one and the iHeart Radio app. Eric Carroll's joins
us again fourteen seasons with the Dodgers. Okay, when you
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look at the Dodgers lineup, what do you see? Eric?
I see a team that does not have any weaknesses,
and it's pretty tough to say that, and over a
course of maybe one hundred and sixty two games, there
will present itself some vulnerabilities. But man, with this Dodgers
club right now, I mean, you see what happens. Kershaw
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gets scratched. They bring up Dustin May, who was not
even on the thirty man roster, and he's thrown one
hundred miles an hour. You know, as a nice outing
the Dodgers, you know, a little slow out of the gate,
but with that lineup, they're going to wear you down,
and you know, they end up winning the eight one.
I think you know I said this, Eric, they get
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a couple of breaks. Number one, their schedules much easier
than say the Astros or the Yankees. Number two is
with this, you got to come in from the bullpen
and finish the inning or get at least three batters out.
With the Dodgers lineup where five of the best hitters
or lefties, four of the best hitters or rights, you
can't you can't do it, Tony LaRussa and calling the
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other guy and the other guy. It feels like it
plays right into the Dodgers roster hands. Yeah, I mean
that's something that's going to present other manager, you know,
opposing managers problems either the depth. I think what's going
to separate them from anybody as the depth, because everybody
is going to be dealing with, you know, the great unknown,
you know, this next couple of months, and that's health,
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whether that's COVID or whether that's injury. And because of
their depth, you know, look at the reality is they
could probably run out two big league starting rotations. They
could probably run out two big league teams, competitive big
league teams, and I don't think there are any There
are many other organizations that can do that. Now, maybe
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the one through nine or competitive or one through fourteen
or competitive. Look at the Yankees are obviously a very
deep team, but I don't know that they have the
lineup that the Dodgers have that. The Dodgers are so versatile,
that's it's what makes them crazy. And if you watch
the last night's game, Bets and Bellinger impacted the game
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with their legs, base running, hustle plays. And I'm not
talking about hitting the ball over the fence. I'm not
talking about making a great defensive play. I'm talking about
a hustle play from third where Mookie Bets scores, and
another one where Bellinger gets in a rundown and allows
runners to get the second and third and then you
know base hit two run score. They're so virtaile. I mean,
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I can go on and on about them. Yeah, the
Mookie Bets contract. The Dodgers lead baseball attendance by a
long shot. They've got, next to the Yankees, the biggest
revenue stream in baseball. And I said this yesterday. You
go to Dodger Stadium. It is just they got it.
They got it figured out, they got it buttoned up there,
and they're always updating it. And I look at the
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Mookie Bets contract and I think thirty million bucks does
not feel prohibitive. But Mike Trout thirty five with the
Angels does kind of feel prohibitive. How do you think,
I mean, the Dodgers have been reluctant to hand out
big deals despite their revenue. What did you make of
the contract? I mean, this is going to sound crazy,
but it's a great deal for the Dodgers. I think
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the Dodgers got a bargain. And and the reason I
say that, look at Andrew Friedman has constructed this ball
club to where he didn't have any payroll liability beyond
twenty twenty two. So he has been structuring the payroll
for this moment and for this type of player. So
Mookie Bets comes into spring training and immediately, you know,
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makes an impact with a clubhouse, speech, the leadership, the
way he assimilates with the ball club. As good as
he is on the field, he may make more of
an impact with this organization off the field. And that's
crazy to say, but it's it's true, and not only
with his teammates, but also within the community socially. There
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are so many tentacles to this contract that again, I
think Andrew Friedman hit an absolute home run, and Mookie
Betts is going to assimilate into this community and this
organization as well as you could possibly expect. I mean,
this couldn't have been drawn up any better. So I'm
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watching NAT's Yankees last night, and it is weird. You
got nine stars in that game, and it is there's
just no there's nothing, I mean, there's just it. You know,
you're going to have empty stadiums. And I was saying
this to John Smaltz the other day. I don't know,
so I'll ask you eventually how it affects hitters. But
as a pitcher, I remember talking to Kirk Shilling about this, like,
you get into these big moments and you know, you're
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in the eighth inning and you've got about two fastballs
left in the mid nineties, and you're sitting on that mound,
and you can't tell me Fenway Park, you can't tell me.
Yankee Stadium, you can't tell me. I don't get a
little juice from the crowd to rear back and throw
ninety six for one of the last two times. And
John Smult agreed. He said, there's there's no question that
you feed as a pitcher in later innings. That crowd
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absolutely elevates you as a batter. Does it matter at all,
crowd or no. Absolutely, I mean, the adrenaline gets going.
So now I've got to find something else to get me,
you know, there's a lack of a better phrase, but
to get me pissed off, to get me fired up,
to get me. And I can draw on that. It's
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it's no different than it's really no different than an
actor having to cry right, And so they've got to
draw on some experience to create that emotion. So now
I'm playing, so I've got to think what's at stake
or create some sort of uh false narrative outside of
fans and screaming and yelling, and I can draw on
that and for each each player it's going to be
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something different. Right, Um, maybe I absolutely maybe the guy
out on the mound I have a dislike form for
for some reason I and maybe I can I can
create that dislike. Um, maybe maybe that at bad at
the plate. I'm I'm I'm doing it for my my kid, right,
I'm doing it for like my family. There's there's got
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to be something and you will create that and your
your teammates can help you create that as well. And
I think as we go on in the next you know,
the next couple of weeks, and you know, guys have
had a little bit of it with with with this
the you know the summer campus spring training stuff. The
you're going to find out what makes you tick and
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what what creates that that adrenaline because it is going
to the fans. They were there and you didn't have
to create it yourself. And now you will have to
find something and guys will find something yeah, we're lucky
this year. We have the Yankees, we have the Dodgers.
I don't know. If I ask you this in a
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sixty game season, the truth of the matter is your
flaws may not be unveiled, and if they are, you're
still in playoff contention. I mean in one hundred and
sixty to two season by June, if you're if you've
got a bad infield, you're just you're I'm going to
see it, Helen. Sixty games, you can fool people for
twenty five? Is there one crazy team in this sport?
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And you think to yourself, I don't know, but they
benefit from a lack of a full season, well, the
lack of a full season for me right now, I mean,
I think the Astros benefit the most from all of this,
right just because of the no fan experience. If you're
talking about now, you know, can a team with a
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shortened season physically I'd say the White Sox because they
are young enough, athletic enough. They don't they could This
could be their hot streak, these sixty games, right and
where they don't get exposed over one hundred and sixty two. Uh,
you know, they could sneak through with their pitching, they could.
And that's a team that you know, uh, one of
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my colleague, Frank Thomas, you know, he's actually talked about
them going to the World Series. Now, I'm not going
to go that far at all, but that's a team
that that I could see, you know what they could,
They could sneak through it if they stay injury free.
The Reds are another team as well that that benefit
from from sixty game season. Um, you know, look at
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this season is going to be so fun. It really is.
And because there's so much unpredictability and they're gonna be
there's gonna be something happening every day where people are
gonna go, oh my goodness, whether it was Soto yesterday
not being able to play for the Nationals to the
two catchers for the Braves today can't suit up, so
that changes. I mean, it's it is crazy. What's gonna
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be going on. It's gonna be so fun to watch
Eric Carroll fourteen years the bigs Fox Sports could talk
to anybuddy, Hey, thanks for having me calling. Be sure
to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and noon
Easter nini Empacific. Michael Vick is now joining me from
Fort lauder Fort Lauderdale, Florida, via the Coward Global Satellite Network.
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Thirteen years in the NFL, A four time Pro bowlder.
So I gotta address the New York Jets situation. So
Jamal Adams is a great player. Jamal Adams comes out
yesterday and says that the head coach, Adam Gase, is
not the coach to take us to the Promised Land.
This is in the paper. He says he doesn't have
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relationships with players. If we're playing lousy, he doesn't address
us at half. He sends other coaches to do it.
I don't think I've ever seen a player make it
this personal in my life with a coach. Now and
Jamal Adams, they're coming back this year. I doubt the
Jets trade him. He's too talented. Your first reaction to that,
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what is that going to do to a locker room?
First of all, that's very disturbing to hear. And when
you have a player talking like that, he's talking like
that for a reason. He's not just saying that just
to be saying that. And you're talking about the leader
of the football team, you know, not the quarterback, the coach.
He the ones that has the guide all of these
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young men to be better man and better football players.
And when you got to stop players saying that, you know,
that's gonna reverberate around the locker room. It's gonna be whistlers.
Everybody's gonna take notice and started, you know, paying post
attention to where Adam Gates is doing. And you know
when things like this happening, comments like this and made
you lose the locker room. And I don't know if
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you can bounce back from this. It's gonna be tough
because unless everybody gets it together and figure out a
way to make this work, it's gonna be a tough
season for the New York Jets. And I hate that
this had to happen, you know, at this time of
the year, right before the start of training camp. It's
interesting because I'm not gonna defend Adam Gaze, but I'll
throw this out there. Is it possible that Adam Gase
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is of an offensive coach and he doesn't he doesn't
talk with his defensive players. Now take me back to
your career. Did Andy Reid talk? Did he have relationships
with defensive players? Yeah? You see, coach read you know
a lot about the defensive side of the ball. So
he was able to help his defensive coaches. And I've
seen it because I was right there watching firsthand. I've
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been the meeting with Andy and the defensive coaching walk
in and they'll talk defense or you know, he spent
time with everyone. So so to not have, you know,
that defensive touch or denowledge of what the defense has
to be doing means you mean, you catered to the
offensive side of the ball, and it shows it. That's
all you care about. But you have to be able
to lead those guys in defense as well. And I
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seen him communicate with everyone, um, you know, and he
was just as close as the defensive players as he
was or offensive players, And I thought that was special.
Do you, Michael, go back to high school? High school,
then you had a college Frank Biemer, then you go
to the NFL. Did you have to like your coach?
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You have to like your coach. You don't have to
necessarily agree on everything, but you all have to have
a common respect, a mutual respect for one another in
order to move forward and win, especially when you're a
star caliber player. When when you're in that position, communication
has to be constant and consistent, and when it's not,
these type of things are gonna happen. You're gonna have guys,
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you know, talking and saying things that he probably shouldn't
say within the media. Um, but you know, as as
a leader of the team, you know, guy like Jamal
Adams got to speak out on things like this because
it just needs to be said when it's sitting, when
it's when it's brought about like this. Did you ever
have a team where, um, what was the best locker
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room you were ever at where there was real unity
and everybody was really on the same page. And I understand,
I mean you got fifty year millionaires, you got veteran guys,
you got young guys, you got stars, you got guys
who are just like gunners on Special Team. I understand
that some guy everybody thinks they're better than they are.
They want to get paid. But what was the best
locker room you ever at? Man? I would have to
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say I had some great times in Atlanta. I can't
take credit away from what we built and the chemistry
we had within the locker room, the camaraderie. Um. You know,
certainly when I got to Philadelphia, it was a different
dynamic because it was it was the old end and
knew it was the Sean and Li Shan in Germany.
You know, the younger, the younger, the next generation along
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with older guys like myself and Brian Westbrook and Donovan
and we just had that mess. We had that um
togetherness because we could all relate on so many levels.
We knew about, you know, what the younger guys were
going through, and we was able to teach them and
then we was also able to learn from them as well. Um.
So the locker room in Philadelphia was so diverse. Man,
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all the defensive players got along with the offensive players,
and you know, we our battles and our struggles on
the field led tied togetherness off the field. And you
know those guys you know, were dynamic in their own right.
And then you know, the Jets locker room was amazing then.
And then I would say close to that was the
Pittsburgh Stills locker room. You know, it was no egos,
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you know, all across the board, and guys came to
work every day and they believed in it and they
followed their leader. And being robbed this burglar and that's
what made it a great experience you know, it's interesting
I was saying about the Cowboys and Dak Prescott. So
the reason I think that Dak Prescott and Jason Garrett
worked is they both needed each other. Dak breaks into
the league and he needs he needs to understand that,
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he needs mentorship. And Jason Garrett had quarterback in the league,
so he needs him. And then Jason Garrett needed Dak
because they were four and twelve year before. Tony Romo
got hurt again in the preseason. So Jason Garrett, you
can't win in this league if you don't have a
starting quarterback. So he needed the stability and Dak provided
that in one games. So it worked because they needed
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each other, and I and I contend they're both good
for each other. But then here's Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy's
already got a Super Bowl, he got a five year,
thirty million dollars deal. He didn't need Dak for money,
he doesn't need him for security, he doesn't need him
for his legacy, he doesn't need him for his Super Bowl.
And he's worked with Farvin Rodgers. I wonder because there's
a story out today from somebody inside the Cowboy locker
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room that Dak was really not happy with Jason Garrett
being let go. And again I want to ask you
on personal experiences, do you think it's possible Dak's thinking, Hey,
Garrett had my back, I don't know if McCarthy has
my back. Do you think that's possible. That's normal the
quarterback position to fill that way. Hey, look, I was
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living when Andy Reid got fired. You know, I was
upset when when when Dan Reeves got fired. You know
I was upset when when Jim Moore got fired, and
I felt like, man, we just needed a couple more
seasons to get this right. You know, it's normal for
a quarterback to fill that way and say those type
of things. But you know that the best thing for
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the team right now. You know that's not the quarterback's
decision to make. So um, But when when Andy was fired,
you know, in twenty thirteen and Chip Kellyman's coming in,
I felt like I was just kind of left out then,
and you know what was next for me? Am I
going to be accepted? You know? Am I going to
be in a quarterback battle? You know, all these things
run through your head and it's realistic thoughts for a
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quarterback like that was a very competitive quarterback. So yeah,
of course those feelings and those relationships, uh, you know,
they're real. You know, it's a real thing, and when
they're seven sometimes things come out. But it's up to
that now because I've been through it. Now you have
to start to develop that relationship with a new coach
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and get the norm. It's just going to take time.
Like anything else in life that you want to perfect
and be great at, you know, you gotta put the
time into it so that MESSI will come over time.
That's interesting. We were talking yesterday about Cam Newton and
we said it'd be one thing if he had an
OTA in New England and a full preseason in New
England and forty five fifty five practices. He's got none
of there. So you tell me how long did it take?
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Because I think Belichick's a great coaching and he reads
a great coach. How many practices did you need with
Andy Reid before you got behind the center and you
felt like, Okay, I'm humming on this thing. I don't
I don't have to sit here and it's kind of
becoming natural to me. Damn, good question, because when I
think about all the questions that I've answered about Cam,
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and you know, people saying he's gonna start and he
should be out in the field in the beginning of
the year, Cam camp be put in a bad situation
and Bill Belichick won't do that. He can't go out
there if he don't have, you know, a true understanding
of the offense, which takes time, and he hasn't had
any OTA's had. You know, won't get any real preseason
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or training camp reps right now, and it's not gonna
be you know, the most effective for Kim. Yes, he
can get out here, he can throw as much as
he can. I believe he's in shake. But you know,
the knowledge is powered at the quarterback position, and I
think Cam will probably understand that. So we can't get
the cart before the horse right here. You know, it's
impossible to go out there and play if you don't understand,
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you know, exactly what you know needs to happen. You know,
every particular playing, Cam's gonna need some time, he's gonna
need some reps. He's gonna get a lot of drops,
and that this time right here is not helping them.
But he can take advantage of every rep um you know,
if he's not going into it, you know, the season
hasn't started. He can take advantage of every rep. You know,
live by Kearson through Sidham, you know, learn from from
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the background, and there's nothing wrong with that. The pay
dividend is in a long term by the way, you're
a college football star, but when you came into the NFL,
you gotta sit for a year. Joe Burrow's not gonna
sit for a year. My gut feeling is too uh
is gonna be too good at practice. He's not gonna
get a year to set um. It is strange you
go from college football to pro football. Difference system, different scheme,
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edge rushers are faster. When you when you went to
the NFL and you didn't have to start first game,
But when you went to practice for the first time, like,
what did you notice the biggest difference between college and
pro football? For you and you were a world class athlete,
but what was the how many practices before you started
noticing the gap in talent, speed and pass rushing. It
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was after my first practice that I knew I was
going to have to put an immense amount of work
into getting caught up to speed. First and foremost for
the offense and being able to just verbalize everything that
needs to be said in the huddle, getting out of
the huddle, getting to the line of scrimmage was something
that was just, you know, so new and and the
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process had to be expedited because you know, when you
number two on practice and your reps are up, you
know it's your rep. You gotta step up. So so
I was like, man, I just need reps. I need reps.
But Chris Chandler was there and I sat behind him,
so I just had to really be keen in and
watching him and studying everything that he did, every move.
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Even though our games was totally different, different styles, I
wanted what he had in the passing game. So I
needed those reps and I needed him now. But I
didn't get them, and it hurt me as far as development,
and that's why I wasn't ready until my second year.
But uh, you know, young guys who are thrown into
the fire gonna learn faster because they're gonna make mistakes
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and learn from them. Yeah, he's in Fort Lauderdale. You
can see all those beautiful He's got trophies behind them,
He's got all sorts of stuff looking good. Over here. Yeah, yeah,
I can tell you're not golfing today. That's like a
that's like a go out. That's a good looking shirt.
That's I take your wife out to dinner shirt right there.
But absolutely, even though I'm staying COVID free, you know,
maybe I order out tonight bringing something, man, but I
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just wanted to walk around and look good, to feel
good today. Go up the gun little gun show there,
looking very good, Michael, good seeing anybody, Thank you, good
seeing you
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.