June 22, 2020 • 39 mins
Dak to sign franchise tag, does that mean a long term deal is close?
Jamal Adams is the exact kind of player you should pay
The incident with Bubba Wallace shows NASCAR needs to flush out some of its fan base
Colin Kaepernick's protests didn't bother as many people as we think
Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong
Guest: Drew Bledsoe, 4x Pro Bowl QB
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hour from now. Colin right, Colin wrong. Joy and I
were traveling all weekend long. She was in Miami. I
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was hanging out with my kids in Vegas. Joy, how
are you. I'm great and nice weekend, Happy Father's Day,
Happy Father's Ay. Thank you. But I saw a picture
of you and your brothers, yes, in Miami. And by
the way, they got all the height in the family. Yeah.
I was gonna say, we got a lot of stories
to get to. I'll have some thoughts on Bubba Wallace
that situation with NASCAR that is troubling. But I want
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to start with two stories here. So Dak Prescott plans
to sign this morning a franchise tag, a franchise tender.
Now what does that mean? That simply means he can't
hold out and he still has a month to work
in a new contract. Now I've been saying this for
eighteen months. I'm over this story. Pay him or don't.
And I've argued he is the perfect franchise tag quarterback
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where he feels like he's twelve fifteenth best quarterback in
the league. But if you pay him a big contract,
are you tied to that? And he's overpaid? And you know,
I've always felt the same with Dak. The things I
like about him really aren't the football things. His arm
is average, He's an athlete but not great. But the leadership,
the toughness, you know, that's stuff I like. But it's interesting.
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I've been told he's going to sign a deal, and
I keep saying, Dallas, everybody where's the deal. I'm not
so sure he is. So last Friday I did something
with him. I said, if you could just get the
opinions out of it, and you could create a data
point on wins, playoff, wins production and availability, and you
looked at Dak Prescott, where should he be paid? No
opinions tenth and wins thirteenth playoff wins thirteenth production tied
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for first in availability over the last four years, and
that makes him the nine and a half highest paid
quarterback about Ryan Tannehill twenty nine and a half million dollars.
But I thought to myself instead of it, because I
think we all think he's should deserves more than that.
I thought to myself, Okay, let me get a comp
for Dak, because there are a lot of people that
are upset Dak deserves it. And I'm like, all right,
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let's get a comp for him. And there's a really
good comp, Kirk Cousins. So Kirk Cousins, like Dak was
drafted in the fourth round and Kirk Cousins, he didn't
get a play initially because Washington drafted RG three. Then
that fizzled out and then they put Kirk Cousins in.
So Kirk Cousins, you forget this. Finally allowed to start
third year, his numbers are really good. He goes nine
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and seven, seventy percent completions, one hundred and one point
six passer rating, twenty nine eleven picks. Those are big
boy numbers. And he didn't have Dak's offensive line. So
he goes nine and seven. Then, so then the franchise right,
like the franchise, and he's like, so they say, give
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me an our year. So the next year he comes
out and he goes eight seven and one. By the way,
they lost four one possession games and tied one. He
could have very easily gone eleven and five ten and six.
Goes eight seven and one, puts up good numbers, completion
percentage close to seventy, passer rating like elite, like Pro
Bowl level, and the franchise taging. Now remember the franchise
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tag then was nineteen million. Now it's almost thirty one
and a half. Were we outraged by kirk Cousins. Not really,
I was, and I was like, I like him, I'm
not get him a five year deal. In fact, when
Minnesota signed him, I'm like, that's a lot for Kirk Cousins.
Kirk Cousins was Dak, except Dak has a better offensive line.
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Dak's got you could argue Dak's got better weapons with
the Kirk Cousins, and back then it was nineteen million.
Now it's almost thirty two million. So the point being,
if Dad gets a contract, I'm good with it. But
I would argue Dak and Kirk Cousins are mostly the
same guy. Now, I like Dak Moore slightly. I think
Kirk throws a better ball, He's a better thrower, accurate thrower.
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I think I think Dak's a little tougher, a little
more athletic, and I think they both have nice leadership skills.
I'd take Dak in big moments over Kirk. So I
like Dak more than Kirk. But my takeaway in this
it's the same dilemma with both. There's a bunch of
old quarterbacks in the league that appear to still be better,
and there's a bunch of really good young quarterbacks in
the league that's appeared to have a higher ceiling than
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Dak and Kirk. And with both I feel the same way.
I mean, if you give him a deal, it's not
going to crush the franchise, and you could certainly make
arguments statistically productivity, they've earned it. But with both that
kind of feels like, man, there's old guys that are
still better. There's a bunch of young guys that look
like they have higher ceilings, and do I want to
pay my guy top of the market or near it?
And he kind of feels like b not a So
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whether Dad gets it or not, there can't be any
real outrage for it. This is Kirk Cousins, and nobody
lost any sleep over Kirk Cousins. And I like Dak
more than Kirk, but not a ton more. There's a
way bigger gap between like mahomes Lamar and Dak than
Kirk Cousins and Dak. So the issue in a salary
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cap league is I can like a guy, but to
pay him to top of the market in any position,
I gotta love a guy, and I don't love Kirk.
I don't love Dak. He did sign the franchise tender,
meaning he's got now about three weeks to get a
long term deal potentially keep I keep being told he's
going to get it, but if not, he plays for
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thirty one point four million dollars, which I've always felt
is close served to his market value. All Right, this
story new rule on the show from this point forward
on the show, I don't do this very often new rule.
If a team drafts you anywhere first round, sixth round,
and within two years of being drafted, you are arguably
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or maybe even not the best player at your position.
Just pay the guy, Just pay the guy. So the
Jets draft Jamal Adams, he becomes the best player in
the league at his position, and suddenly that's a problem.
No no, no, no, no, that's what you're hoping for.
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So Jamal Adams was driving around this weekend and he
was in Dallas and a Cowboy fan. I think he
was in Dallas somewhere. So here's the beast of audio.
We have, Jamal Adams brings up wanting to play with
the Cowboys. Hey, what's up, bro, are you coming to Dallas? Okay,
just a new rule the whole point. People say, well,
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he's a safety, and I thought about it this weekend. Well,
safety has to matter because they drafted him with a
number six pick. Well wait a minute, So the Jets
were telling you, who we need a safety and you
got it and he was great, And now you're saying, well,
he's a safety. Nobody drafts a punter in the first round.
Nobody drafts a kicker in the first round. When the
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Colts drafted the best offensive garden in the last twenty
years in college football. Everybody but a guard in the
first round. You drafted him six. So he can't tell
me now it doesn't matter. The other thing businesses do
all the time, and I've dealt with this in my career,
they go, WHOA, we're setting a precedent. Jamal Adams is
the precedent. If Marcus May of the Jets came in
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and said I want that contract, you'd be like, no,
thank you, No, no, you can go to the Bengals
will trade you. Like the new rule on the show.
When Zeke came to the Cowboys, he not only could run,
not only could catch. He was one of the top
five blocking backs. Just pay him. I don't care about
the position. The whole point of the draft is, especially
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when you're drafting guys first second round if you're drafting
Pro bowlers. So if you outperform your contract and they
thought Jamal Adams would be good, did anybody think he
would be arguably arguably a top seven eight player in
the league. I honestly believe I've said this before. He's
one of the top five to seven players in the NFL.
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But let's just stop the whole point of the draft,
and a lot of guys underachieve when you go to
the first round. That means this is a position of need.
Nobody's rafting punters there. This is a guy we're hoping
is a Hall of Fame level talent. And if he
not only is a Hall of famer, but it doesn't
take him any time to develop, like Jamal Adams has
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been great by like his seventh game in the NFL,
just pay him. I don't want to hear about price
in it anymore. Listen, you have to make exceptions for
exceptional people. Kyle Shanahan and I know there's no salary
cat with coaches. Three years left at his contract. San
Francisco is like, we're gonna tear it up and give
you a new one. Kyle Shanahan has a losing NFL record.
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Now think about that. He's got a losing NFL record,
and the Niners are like, wait, wait, lett this guy
get into the market. We're just gonna sign him up.
That's it. Now. I know it's it's coach, but they
made an exception because Kyle Shanahan is exceptional. Oh, by
the way, in the last four years. I looked it up.
Jets have drafted one player who became a Pro Bowler.
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It's him. I don't want to hear about precedent. I
don't want to hear about exceptions. Do it. And this
idea that he's a safety, No, he's not. The more
I think about this, he's a linebacker. They put him
at defensive end. He's a football player, and he's by
far and away the Jets best football player, and he's
by far and away the best football player at his
so called position. Just pay him. And I went back
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and forth on this the last month and a half.
I'm like, you could do either way, and I'm like, no, no, no, no,
stop stop new rule. I don't want to keep flip
flopping on this new rule. I draft you. You're the
best player in the league at that position. I don't
care about how many years left front offices figure it out. Oh,
by the way, you're still not paying Sam Darnold for
two years. Figure it out. Pay him, keep him all right.
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Disturbing story in NASCAR, and many thoughts on that. Colin
Kaepernick Brett Farves on his side now, which is driving
some people crazy, Which is why I think I'm becoming
more of a Kaepernick fan. All of that coming up next,
plus Colin Right, Colin Wrong, Doug Gottlie this hour too.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
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FS one and the iHeartRadio app. NASCAR says a noose
was found in Bubba Wallace's garage at Talladega. Disgusting. Bubba
Wallace used to be on the Truck Series. He's never
wanted to be political, great driver, was very very good
in the Truck Series, and then they moved him up
from NASCAR, where he's been fantastic. He will, in my opinion,
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become much more popular immediately. They don't have the video yet.
The FBI is involved. This is a death threat. That's
why the FBI's involved. They should be treated as a
death threat. I don't want to hear about anything else.
That's how it should be treated and the fullest extent
of the law. Throw the entire book at whoever did this.
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It is gross and it is frightening. NASCAR should thank
itself that Bubba Wallace is uniquely qualified to handle this.
He is a real grown up. In fact, he never
really got into politics until recently in Atlanta there was
a race and somebody in his crew kneeled and it
moved him, and he said, you know, it's time I
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maybe talked about this stuff. He is the future of NASCAR.
It should be noted, young, qualified, and tolerant. And if
NASCAR's got to get rid of fifteen to twenty to
twenty five to thirty percent of their fan base and
bring in people who understand the world we live in,
I am all for it. NASCAR again is incredibly lucky
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that Bubba Wallace is uniquely qualified to handle this. I
have never wanted to find a piece of video more
in my life. This is why we have Black Lives Matter,
This is why we have protests, this is why we'll
keep you updated on this story. I think I think
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first of all, NASCAR, to its credit, immediately acted, swiftly acted,
and appeared to be really ticked off. But to me,
NASCAR has gotten old, The audience has gotten old. Maybe
it's time to flush a little bit out. Maybe it's
time for thirty new drivers, new people, and some new
fans who get the new world we live in. Be
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sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays in
nowon Easter ninety and Pacific and fact, one of the
things that was never discussed about the ratings when Kaepernick played.
They were down that year eight percent. Oh, that's funny.
NFL ratings were down eight percent that year. College football
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ratings were down double that I'm reading it right now
twenty sixteen, CBS, SEC down ten percent, ABC eighteen, Fox
twenty three, ESPN six. What's funny. Kaepernick didn't take a
knee for college football, So why are the college football
ratings down way more than NFL? I thought it was Kaepernick.
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Donald Trump was running for president against Hillary Clinton, who
at minimum is polarizing, So you had the most polarizing
democrat on the face of the planet, Hillary Clinton had
the most polarizing human ever running for president Donald Trump,
and the NFL ratings were down the Kaepernick knee or
eight percent, not eighteen, not twenty eight, not thirty eight
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forty eight. Studies indicate men watch two things on cable TV,
sports and politics. So as Fox News, MSNBC and CNBC's
ratings went up one hundred percent, football tickdown. Most of
us are grown ups. Even if we agreed or disagreed
with Kaepernick, we still watch football. Brett Farve this weekend
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thinks Kaepernick is going to go down like Pat Tillman
as iconic. Here's Brett Farve. You know, I can only
think of Ronald the top. I have. Pat Tillman's another
guy who did something's you know, similar, and we regard
him as a hero. So I assume that hero status
will will be stamped with Kaepernick as well. It's not
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easy for a guy his age, black or white, Hispanic,
whatever to stop something that you've all always strained to
do it and put it on hold, maybe forever, for
something that you believe in. This just drives a lot
of people crazy, mostly conservatives. Oh my, I can't believe folks.
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Nike didn't sign Colin Kaepernick because they thought he would
tank their business. Nike stock is up twenty percent. Shoe
sales are up in a bad economy. The thing was
Oa's loud voices. Studies show that people watch football. Just
think about this. In the most polarizing election I'm fifty
five years old of my life, Donald Trump and Hillary
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it was like beyond ugly. Ratings for all the cable
news stations exploded and the NFL was down eight percent.
That's it. College football was down sixteen percent that year.
They didn't have a Kaepernick story. The elections destroy college
football ratings and hurt, briefly the NFL's ratings. Here's another
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thing that nobody wants to admit with Kaepernick, most of us.
And I've said this before, I'm not a big fan
of people bringing their politics to work. I said this
about Kaepernick a I think you should keep your activism.
There's plenty of time for activism, and there's plenty of
platforms for activism. If I have activism, I don't do
it on this network. I do it on Twitter, Instagram.
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There's a lot of platforms for it. Be that as
it may. You can disagree with me. I'm not saying
I'm right. I'm just my take has always been I
wouldn't bring a picket signed to Fox. I could do
it outside the building. I could do it in my neighborhood.
I could protest. I'm not a huge fan of kind
of using your work for your activism. But a lot
of people disagree with me. But the idea that it
just blew the league up is a bunch of nonsense.
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It is a most people can handle somebody having a
different opinion, even if you don't like their opinion. Joe
Rogan said something this weekend about Joe Biden and masks.
He was talking about, you shouldn't wear a masks, They're stupid.
I totally disagree with Joe Rogan. I think you should
wear masks. I think if everybody wore masks, we'd have
a football season. What worries me is you guys won't
wear masks. But I can disagree with Joe Rogan. I'm
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okay with it. I totally disagree with him. I think
he's totally wrong, but I still listen to his podcast.
I feel like it. I'm growing up. I can handle
a different opinion. What's interesting is if you go back
to the Kaepernick year to prove my point again, because again,
if you just want to be right and use your
agenda to prove your right, college football was down more
than the NFL with Kaepernick. Why did college football get bad? No,
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it was Trump and Hillary. But it was funny about
the NFL the minute the election was over. The NFL
ratings were down in September, October, early November. Then the
election was over, and after about two weeks at Trump
you know, being polarizing December and January, all the ratings
in the NFL, they weren't down as much. In fact,
the Super Bowl that year was the fifth highest watch
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super Bowl of all time. You want to be right,
run the Twitter. I want to get it right. Listen
to our show. But the idea what FARV said this
morning is remotely controversial. There's nothing controversial about it. If
you politically have a point of view and you want to,
you know, you want to. You got an ax to grinder,
you want to proof right, go for it. That's fine.
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But if Kaepernick comes back, it's not going to massively
dent the ratings. I do think there's two or three
percent of people that'll just say no. But I also
think in November, Donald Trump is trying to get reelected,
and if the ratings go down again, it won't be
a Kaepernick issue. It'll be a Donald Trump issue. And
they'll go down in college football, and they'll go down
in the NFL, and then by December they'll go back up.
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that's Joy Taylor, all right. Every week I do this.
Colin right, Colin wrong, I'm both Often here we go
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where Colin was right, Dak Prescott signed a franchise tag.
Now he may get a long term deal, but I'll
believe it when I see it. I keep being told
by everybody he's gonna sign a deal. Am I thinking, well,
they paid everybody else, when the when they gonna sign
him too a deal? I think this is his value.
I think thirty one and a half billion bucks. It's
a lot of money in a state of Texas for
a young man now now earned deserved. Blah blah blah.
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Doesn't mean he's not gonna get a long term deal.
And my guess is with Mike McCartney, he's gonna be
better than he was with Jason Garrett. And at the
end of the year, you're gonna go like ninety six
quarterback rating, sixty eight, present completion percentage nine, win team
and they're gonna give him a deal. But until they
get him a long term deal, I'm right. This is
what I've predicted if they wanted to pay him, they
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would have paid him and thirty one and a half million.
That feels like to me very close to his market
value where Colin was raw. Okay, eleven days ago, I
made a bold prediction on this show, and here it is.
So I get what time is it right now? It
is ten thirty five Pacific, So by ten thirty five
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Pacific on Saturday, we'll have a deal done. Yeah, that
didn't happen, and we still don't have a deal done,
and my sources were not great on that. Major League
Baseball does not have a deal. It does feel like
it's getting close, but I think even diehard baseball fans,
I mean diehards, people that have defended it despite its
tissues for years, are over it and are embarrassed by it.
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We're gonna have a season. It's gonna be really, really,
really short. It's gonna feel different. I'm all for it,
but at this point I think even diehard baseball fans
have to acknowledge this has been really a bad look
to the sport. Where Colin was right. So PFF Pro
Football Focus came out with a study last week and
it rated the best quarterbacks in the league on non
first read throws. This is when stuff breaks down. Russell
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Wilson was the best quarterback in the league, miles ahead
of Aaron Rodgers, who I've been saying for years. Russell's
better than Aaron. But look who else is on the list.
Carson went and Jimmy Garoppolo. In fact, you can make
an argument these are five of my top six quarterbacks
in the league. Garoppolo is not the system quarterback you
people are claiming when the first read is not there.
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He is top five in the league. And Carson Wentz,
despite all the critics, top five and that is with
offensive line and wide receiver issues the last two years,
where Colin was raw. Fox bet last week said Bill
O'Brien's the worst coach in the NFL. In fact, he's
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the only coach that hurts you. You'd be better not
having a coach than having Bill O'Brien. He's minus points.
I'm going to defend this guy, but maybe I gotta.
I'm just seeing something. Four division titles in six years.
He won a division with Brock Osweiler. I could just
end my argument right there. But Fox beat now and
they're not trying to win an argument. This is all
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about like analytics they have. Bill O'Brien is the worst
coach in the league. He's nine and two against Doug Morone,
and Doug Barrone is ready to significantly higher than Bill O'Brien,
and he's nine and two against him with several different quarterbacks.
I think he's a good coach. I think he's ALLOWSYGM,
but I'm in the minority. When I watch Houston Texans games,
they are inconsistent. I'm not saying he's top five coach.
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I'm not saying he's top eight coach. But I don't
see a team that's uncreative. I don't see a team
where the best players don't get the football. When I
watched their games, the best offensive players get the football.
That's any I thought he was very successful considering the
Joe Pasandski mess. I thought he was very good at
Penn State. I'm in the minority where Colin was right.
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Lebron James runs the NBA. Several players for the last
two weeks have debated Kyrie Irving, Dwight Howard, Avery Bradley
the importance of not playing in the NBA. Then Patrick
Beverley came out with a tweet last week and said,
Lebron want to hoop, we hoop. Absolutely been arguing this
for years. He is the gravitational center of the sport
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and should be. He is well versed on politics, He's
well versed on basketball history and culture. He's well versed
on media. He's always prepared. He is not perfect, none
of us are. But Lebron James has made everybody, including
Adam Silver, millions and millions of dollars. And if Lebroun
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wants to hoop, we are going to hoop. This has
never been a league where the Orlando Magic mean as
much as the Celtics are the Lakers. It's never been
a league where jud Buschler means as much as Magic
or Michael. It's a star driven league, and he is
the gravitational center of the sport, not Kyrie Irving. Where
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Colin was right. Kyle Shanahan got a new contract extension,
and here's why I'm proud. We all thought he was
a good coach. But a year ago, before last year,
I said, I live in Los Angeles and I like
Sean mcveay, But Sean McBay is not the best offensive
coach in his division and I said this as Shanahan
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was losing and McBey had just gotten out of a
Super Bowl. I said, this is the best offensive coaching
football he is. This is the Niners have secured Kyle
Shanahan too. Now he's got six more years left. It's
one thing to say is good. We all thought so,
But you go up fifty and eighteen months ago, and
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I swear to God, if you had a cup of
coffee with Sean mcbagh, you got a job in the NFL.
And I kept seeing I like me Fay a lot.
I think he's really good. You're not. Kyle Shanahan proven
again this week where Colin was wrong. Well, Alabama. I've
been banging on Alabama for years because they play a
cupcake schedule a year after year, and Nick Saban, after
about year or three at Alabama, decided I'm not going
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to go on the road and never play anybody that
you've heard of. Give Alabama credit. They went out in
the last couple of weeks and they are scheduling big
boy football games home and home with Texas, Wisconsin, Florida State,
Ohio State, and Notre Dame. Now my guess is Nick
Saban will not be around for the Ohio State and
Notre Dame games. But nonetheless I have clabbered them forever
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for manipulating the schedule. Everything is like in a neutral
side at a conference. They won't go on the road
and face a big dog Day, won't. Georgia will go
to Notre Dame. LSU is always willing to go on
the road. Alabama isn't, but to their credit, they stepped up.
I think the win, believe it or not, is not
just for college football, but for Alabama. It lads credibility
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to Nick Saban's legacy because the one knock on it
right now is he has ducked opponents. You can't say
that anymore, especially in the next three or four years,
where Colin was right. A lot of critics on Lamar
Jackson and I didn't know if he'd make it, and
I'm surprised by how good he's been. But even after
last year there's critics and he did something again this
past week, which I just love. He's never passive aggressive.
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He just tells you exactly what he thinks. And he
said last week, yeah I overlooked and we overlooked Tennessee.
He's also the kid that said yeah, I listened to
all you guys that said I wasn't a good enough thrower,
and I worked on it all off season. And he
also came out and said, yeah, everybody said I was
a little skinny. So I went and put weight on
how many young people we'll go out and acknowledge. I
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not only listen to the critics, but I literally worked
on what the critics said I needed to work on.
This is why I like him. It's not just that
he can run around. The reality is it's not passive aggressive.
He owns his crap, he owns his weaknesses. He confronts them,
and this is why I think he's special. He came
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out and acknowledge we'll overlooked him just flat We just
flat overlooked him. It's very it's a very rare quality
for a young person to be able to go Yeah,
I needed to work on this. I needed to work
on that. I needed to work on this, and I
heard the critics all three times where Colin was right.
This is the rightiest one in the history of the show.
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About five years ago, the Jets drafted second round Christian
Hackenburg Penn State, nice kid, nice family. I said at
the time, it's the worst draft pick I've ever seen.
He cannot play in the NFL. He struggled in college.
He had forty eight touchdowns and thirty one picks in college.
He completed fifty six percent of us to those in college.
And I said, this is not a bad draft pick.
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He cannot play in the NFL. He's not an NFL quarterback.
Last week he quit football. He's gonna play baseball. I
wish him the best. He's probably a great kid. But
I said it at the time. This was not about, like,
you know, I'm not sure will play. I said it
at the time. This is an NFL football team that
literally didn't do their homework. You could make five calls
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or around football. None of the guys I like liked him.
They're all like, no, he's not he's not accurate enough.
He's a big, great high school stud but he doesn't
move well. He doesn't he's not accurate. Again, good kid.
Last week he quit football after never really playing. All right,
there you go, oh, look at this coming up next.
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This is interesting, Drew Bledso, my guy was recently in
a Browns quarterback zoom meeting with Baker Mayfield. Do you
know what I had last Thursday night, I invited my
buddy dad around Rigus over and we had Bled Souls wine.
He'd never had Blood Souls wine. He has his cab.
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It's the best cab I've ever had. Really, yeah, his
cab is. He's got a bunch of wines. His cab
is unbelievable. And my friend we had a glass. I'm
not a big wine drinker. We had a glass and
my buddy said, can I take it home? So he
literally grabbed the bottle and ran out of my house
and took it home. So Drew Bledsoe the Winemaker the
Quarterback is coming up next. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Herd Weekdays and Nun Easter not a
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Empacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeart
Radio app. Drew bledso joining me via the Coward Google
Satellite network, just talking about having a glass of his
cab did oh my god, look at this. I'm working
calm you in this morning talk about trolling people. So
now that this is this is Drew Bledsoe's winery, which
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is a stunning facility. You've been in the wine business
for how long, Drew U thirteen years? Now? Started an
oh seven if you can believe that. It seems like yes,
But yeah, I'm kind of an old old dude in
the wine industry now, and you weren't. You didn't get
into be a celebrity wine like this is a highly
readed wine. You in fact, you told me the first
seven eight years you didn't make a penny, right, Yeah, no, No,
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it's it's uh, it took us seven years before we
started making any money at it. But we've got our
own vineyards, we've got our own facility, we've got our
own farming company. I mean, we're kind of a we're
kind of a real thing now and and thankfully we've
got an amazing team that's kicking butt for us and
making great wine year after the year. Uh. You know,
it's kind of like playing quarterback. All those guys do
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the hard work and then I get to stand. It's
kind of cool. Double back, by the way, is the
name of the wine? Okay? Um, So I want to
talk about the adjustment period for New England, and this
is not a shot a New England. But I said,
this was an organization that had a couple of Super Bowls,
but they had a losing record going into Brady he
created this sort of unique kind of vision of what
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the franchise is. And I think it's going to be
a real adjustment period, not just football, Tommy, but leadership. Tommy.
I'd like you to address those thoughts. And so you're
going to be a huge adjustment, you know, Tom, And
it's kind of funny column you think about it. You
and I are a little bit older. But but for
some of these kids that have been drafted the last
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four or five years, Tom Brady has been football to
them since they started watching football. I mean, he's there
twenty years and you've got guys that come in the
building that are twenty one or twenty two. They've never
seen an NFL game or an NFL season where Tom
Brady wasn't like the marquee quarterback. And so just the
fact that's there and walks into the room with some
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of these young guys, all of a sudden, everything takes
on a whole different level of seriousness. And then on
top of that, you know his work ethic which is
which is you know, well known, and that leadership that
he supplied and not having that there, it's a big,
big change of that organization. They're gonna have to be
some some guys that step into that leadership boidum and
really try to carry that that that load, um, you
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know for the Patriots. And then you know, I do
think though that with Jared Stidham, who I you know,
I think it's gonna be a good player. Um. But
you also you go back and you remember, you know
Tom's first few years. This wasn't the aerial circus where
they're throwing at forty or fifty times a game the
first first fews that he was starting. You know, they're
playing defense, they're running the ball, and they're taking care
of him, not putting him, not putting an undue share
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of the burden on him to carry the load like
he did later in his career. And I think that'll
be the case with with Stidham as well. Early on,
I think they'll take some of the burden off of him,
uh and you know, try to make things easy for
him early and then if he shows that he can
carry that load, then they'll give him more going down
the road. But it's you're it's gonna be a big
adjustment for everybody, even as just a fan. It's gonna
be different, right to watch the Patriots. You have somebody
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else playing quarterback for the first time twenty years is
pretty crazy. It's interesting. I think Tom's going to flourish
in Tampa. But here is my only concern. It is
very easy to find a guy that's intense. Tom Coughlin
comes to mind. Take a really intense guy and tell
him to chill out a little. It's different to take
a very relaxed, chill guy and tell him you need
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to be intense. New England is the epicenter of intense football.
Tampa Bay Ibor City cocktails at five. There's always been
sort of a loose, fun organization. Tommy's going to take
that intensity. Could it be problematic that it takes a
while for everybody to understand that you live in the
facility for four months. You know, well, first of all,
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you know there are these different cities where where these
teams exist. In Boston is maybe the most intense, not
just football but sports in general. I had to learn
that I came from a small town in eastern Washington,
all of a sudden get slammed into Boston. You know
where sports is religion. You know here it was you know,
or to something you did if nothing else was going
on out there, it's they live and breathe it, so
the city, you know, that's different. But if you're playing
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a professional sport, and especially if you're playing football, if
you're not showing up to every single day with great intensity,
ready to ready to work hard, bang heads, you know,
all of those things, then you're in the wrong profession.
So let's start there. But then with Tom, he brings
so much credibility, Um, you know to that organization that
he's immediately going to elevate that within within the building.
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What they do when they leave the facility might be
a little different. The silly and go to the beach.
That sounds pretty good. I never got to do that.
You know, a buffalo got to go to Dallas, so
at least it was warm. But but once you're in
the building, you better have that intensity already. And then
with the credibility and the work ethic and all the
things that the Tom brings, I think it's it's going
to elevate. Thanks for that right away. I want to
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talk about Baker Mayfield. You were on a Zoom call
last week, and everybody thinks I hate Baker. I've said
he's a franchise quarterback. He's not he probably wouldn't be
a guy put my arms around. But he's got town
and I did think he was. I thought the coaching
situation last year was not good enough at the NFL level.
I just didn't think it worked. I do think he's
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going to have a very solid year, but again, I
think his ceiling is much lower than a lot of
other people. So you're on the Zoom call. Why were
you invited? And what did you make of it? So
their coordinator for Cleveland for the Browns, Alex van Pelt.
He was a backup quarterback with me and Buffalo for
a couple of years. We are also drafted the same year.
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This this good story. I won't take a bunch of time.
But I turned twenty one at the scouting combine right
and Alex was drafted the same year. He's a couple
of years older. So my twenty first birthday was in
Indianapolis at the Hooters down in Napolis with Alex Vanpelt
and Juno Terretta. So Alex and I go way way back. Okay, So,
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but so Alex invited me to come sit in there
zoom meeting and we talked a little bit of football.
He wanted me to talk some red zone stuff with him,
and then he wanted me to talk a little media
stuff with him. But then the rest of it was
just telling a lot of old war stories. But one
of the things that Baker has going for him, though,
is that Alex Van Pelt is an outstanding football coach.
Not only x'es and o's wise, but he played the
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position for a long time. And I tell him, I
give him great respect because he played quarterback in the
NFL for like ten or eleven years with really not
very much talent, and I'd like to remind him of that.
I do think he's kind of proud of it, you know,
kind of a short guy that couldn't throw it real hard,
but he played for eleven years. But one of the
one of the great assets that Baker is going to have, though,
is he's got a guy that's calling plays for him
(35:34):
that not only understands the x's and knows, but he
understands everything else that goes into playing quarterback. You know,
Alex was he was in Buffalo with Jim Kelly and
then he went through the Flutie and Rob Johnson years
and then we were together for a little while, and
he's seen the ups and downs of playing quarterback in
the NFL. He knows how to help a quarterback. He
was really helpful for me just as a back of quarterback.
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He was almost a coach on the sidelines. So that's
going to be a big asset for Baker going forward.
And I also think they've upgraded their offensive line. They've
they've done some good things in the offseason to to
build from the inside out. You know, a year ago,
we got all excited because they had all the bells
and whistles and all the fast guys and all that stuff.
But you and I both know that that true football
organizations are built from the inside out, and they address
some of that with their offensive line. Um. I think
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he's gonna have a really good year. I think, Um
you know, I know you follow him on so he's
the only one you follow on social media. Doesn't hear that?
That's I follow on my social media. I spend a
lot of time on a column. Yeah you gotta follow me,
come on. But I think Baker's gonna be really successful.
I think he's gonna surprise a lot of people. By
the way, So do you have a camera, guy? There
(36:38):
is this your own phone? Now? This is actually a camera.
I'm at the I'm at the winery. We've been doing
so much zoom stuff now like everybody else, we decided
to get a little more professional. Uh here, last time
I was down on the Sara Celler. Today it's so
beautiful out, I figured I should sit outside and drink
from wine while I talk to you. So it's called
Double Back Winery. It is the cab is what what
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are you drinking right there? It is great wine. This
is a twenty seventeen Double Backcab. It's the best wine
we've made so far, although the stuff that's in the
seller may be better from eighteen. But yeah, we our
team's continuing to get better and better at everything they're doing.
And you know, we've made some good wines in the past,
but I think our best wines were still ahead of us,
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which is pretty exciting toil to say. All Right, one
more question. Dak got franchise tag. Now he still has
a month to work in a contract, but I do
think here's here's my theory on this. If McCarthy wanted
to give him four years, McCarthy would go to Jerry
and say, if it was Patrick Mahomes, you'd be like,
get him a four year deal, let's lock him up.
Is it possible McCarthy just doesn't know him and is
(37:41):
a little reluctant on getting tied to him for his
entire Dells contract. You know that's possible. I think there's
a there's a component where they may want to date
for a little bit before they get married, if you will,
you know, rather than going into an arranged marriage and
you know, seeing if it works. Um. I do like
this move for Dak signing the franchise tag. First of all,
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you know these these rookie contracts in the NFL that
I mean, it's millions of dollars, but it's not forever
millions of dollars. But you know, franchise tags thirty million.
I think now you know, so this is not chump change.
So for Dak, it's a good puts him in a
in a situation where he's going to be financially secure
going forward. It also gives him some some negotiating leverage
with with with the Cowboys. But I think for both
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the quarterback and the franchise, it makes sense to get
something done long term. Gives you more salary cap room,
gives stability. I really, I'm hopeful both for the franchise.
You know, if I was putting on my Cowboys fan hat,
I would be hopeful for the franchise that they would
get a long term deal done. And I really like Dak,
I really really do. I think he's a very good player.
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And then all of the intangibles are off the charts,
you know, leadership, availability, durability, you know, all of those things.
I think the Cowboys would be smart to lock him up,
and I hope it happens for him. All right, Double Backwinery, Well,
we got to make this a habit. This is this
is from now on. This is where I want to
do my interviews from This is beautiful. Yeah. Absolutely, next time,
I'll send you some wine. We're gonna have some wine together.
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You know. I did this. This piece of Jeremy Schapp
and his producer was pretty funny because we drank an
entire bottle of wine during the interview, and the the
the producers were like, yeah, I didn't know if Jeremy
was going to make it through the rest of the
interviews over his chair, So you know, I maybe get
some I send some rose down for Joy and I'll
send you some cab and we can get loose and
(39:28):
have a real interview. That's right. Jeremy's a little bit
of a lightweight. I can handle my red wine, not
that like Jeremy. Good to see anybuddy, Yeah, thank you.
Good to see about
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were traveling all weekend long. She was in Miami. I
(00:48):
was hanging out with my kids in Vegas. Joy, how
are you. I'm great and nice weekend, Happy Father's Day,
Happy Father's Ay. Thank you. But I saw a picture
of you and your brothers, yes, in Miami. And by
the way, they got all the height in the family. Yeah.
I was gonna say, we got a lot of stories
to get to. I'll have some thoughts on Bubba Wallace
that situation with NASCAR that is troubling. But I want
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to start with two stories here. So Dak Prescott plans
to sign this morning a franchise tag, a franchise tender.
Now what does that mean? That simply means he can't
hold out and he still has a month to work
in a new contract. Now I've been saying this for
eighteen months. I'm over this story. Pay him or don't.
And I've argued he is the perfect franchise tag quarterback
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where he feels like he's twelve fifteenth best quarterback in
the league. But if you pay him a big contract,
are you tied to that? And he's overpaid? And you know,
I've always felt the same with Dak. The things I
like about him really aren't the football things. His arm
is average, He's an athlete but not great. But the leadership,
the toughness, you know, that's stuff I like. But it's interesting.
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I've been told he's going to sign a deal, and
I keep saying, Dallas, everybody where's the deal. I'm not
so sure he is. So last Friday I did something
with him. I said, if you could just get the
opinions out of it, and you could create a data
point on wins, playoff, wins production and availability, and you
looked at Dak Prescott, where should he be paid? No
opinions tenth and wins thirteenth playoff wins thirteenth production tied
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for first in availability over the last four years, and
that makes him the nine and a half highest paid
quarterback about Ryan Tannehill twenty nine and a half million dollars.
But I thought to myself instead of it, because I
think we all think he's should deserves more than that.
I thought to myself, Okay, let me get a comp
for Dak, because there are a lot of people that
are upset Dak deserves it. And I'm like, all right,
(02:44):
let's get a comp for him. And there's a really
good comp, Kirk Cousins. So Kirk Cousins, like Dak was
drafted in the fourth round and Kirk Cousins, he didn't
get a play initially because Washington drafted RG three. Then
that fizzled out and then they put Kirk Cousins in.
So Kirk Cousins, you forget this. Finally allowed to start
third year, his numbers are really good. He goes nine
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and seven, seventy percent completions, one hundred and one point
six passer rating, twenty nine eleven picks. Those are big
boy numbers. And he didn't have Dak's offensive line. So
he goes nine and seven. Then, so then the franchise right,
like the franchise, and he's like, so they say, give
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me an our year. So the next year he comes
out and he goes eight seven and one. By the way,
they lost four one possession games and tied one. He
could have very easily gone eleven and five ten and six.
Goes eight seven and one, puts up good numbers, completion
percentage close to seventy, passer rating like elite, like Pro
Bowl level, and the franchise taging. Now remember the franchise
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tag then was nineteen million. Now it's almost thirty one
and a half. Were we outraged by kirk Cousins. Not really,
I was, and I was like, I like him, I'm
not get him a five year deal. In fact, when
Minnesota signed him, I'm like, that's a lot for Kirk Cousins.
Kirk Cousins was Dak, except Dak has a better offensive line.
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Dak's got you could argue Dak's got better weapons with
the Kirk Cousins, and back then it was nineteen million.
Now it's almost thirty two million. So the point being,
if Dad gets a contract, I'm good with it. But
I would argue Dak and Kirk Cousins are mostly the
same guy. Now, I like Dak Moore slightly. I think
Kirk throws a better ball, He's a better thrower, accurate thrower.
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I think I think Dak's a little tougher, a little
more athletic, and I think they both have nice leadership skills.
I'd take Dak in big moments over Kirk. So I
like Dak more than Kirk. But my takeaway in this
it's the same dilemma with both. There's a bunch of
old quarterbacks in the league that appear to still be better,
and there's a bunch of really good young quarterbacks in
the league that's appeared to have a higher ceiling than
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Dak and Kirk. And with both I feel the same way.
I mean, if you give him a deal, it's not
going to crush the franchise, and you could certainly make
arguments statistically productivity, they've earned it. But with both that
kind of feels like, man, there's old guys that are
still better. There's a bunch of young guys that look
like they have higher ceilings, and do I want to
pay my guy top of the market or near it?
And he kind of feels like b not a So
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whether Dad gets it or not, there can't be any
real outrage for it. This is Kirk Cousins, and nobody
lost any sleep over Kirk Cousins. And I like Dak
more than Kirk, but not a ton more. There's a
way bigger gap between like mahomes Lamar and Dak than
Kirk Cousins and Dak. So the issue in a salary
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cap league is I can like a guy, but to
pay him to top of the market in any position,
I gotta love a guy, and I don't love Kirk.
I don't love Dak. He did sign the franchise tender,
meaning he's got now about three weeks to get a
long term deal potentially keep I keep being told he's
going to get it, but if not, he plays for
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thirty one point four million dollars, which I've always felt
is close served to his market value. All Right, this
story new rule on the show from this point forward
on the show, I don't do this very often new rule.
If a team drafts you anywhere first round, sixth round,
and within two years of being drafted, you are arguably
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or maybe even not the best player at your position.
Just pay the guy, Just pay the guy. So the
Jets draft Jamal Adams, he becomes the best player in
the league at his position, and suddenly that's a problem.
No no, no, no, no, that's what you're hoping for.
(06:41):
So Jamal Adams was driving around this weekend and he
was in Dallas and a Cowboy fan. I think he
was in Dallas somewhere. So here's the beast of audio.
We have, Jamal Adams brings up wanting to play with
the Cowboys. Hey, what's up, bro, are you coming to Dallas? Okay,
just a new rule the whole point. People say, well,
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he's a safety, and I thought about it this weekend. Well,
safety has to matter because they drafted him with a
number six pick. Well wait a minute, So the Jets
were telling you, who we need a safety and you
got it and he was great, And now you're saying, well,
he's a safety. Nobody drafts a punter in the first round.
Nobody drafts a kicker in the first round. When the
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Colts drafted the best offensive garden in the last twenty
years in college football. Everybody but a guard in the
first round. You drafted him six. So he can't tell
me now it doesn't matter. The other thing businesses do
all the time, and I've dealt with this in my career,
they go, WHOA, we're setting a precedent. Jamal Adams is
the precedent. If Marcus May of the Jets came in
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and said I want that contract, you'd be like, no,
thank you, No, no, you can go to the Bengals
will trade you. Like the new rule on the show.
When Zeke came to the Cowboys, he not only could run,
not only could catch. He was one of the top
five blocking backs. Just pay him. I don't care about
the position. The whole point of the draft is, especially
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when you're drafting guys first second round if you're drafting
Pro bowlers. So if you outperform your contract and they
thought Jamal Adams would be good, did anybody think he
would be arguably arguably a top seven eight player in
the league. I honestly believe I've said this before. He's
one of the top five to seven players in the NFL.
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But let's just stop the whole point of the draft,
and a lot of guys underachieve when you go to
the first round. That means this is a position of need.
Nobody's rafting punters there. This is a guy we're hoping
is a Hall of Fame level talent. And if he
not only is a Hall of famer, but it doesn't
take him any time to develop, like Jamal Adams has
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been great by like his seventh game in the NFL,
just pay him. I don't want to hear about price
in it anymore. Listen, you have to make exceptions for
exceptional people. Kyle Shanahan and I know there's no salary
cat with coaches. Three years left at his contract. San
Francisco is like, we're gonna tear it up and give
you a new one. Kyle Shanahan has a losing NFL record.
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Now think about that. He's got a losing NFL record,
and the Niners are like, wait, wait, lett this guy
get into the market. We're just gonna sign him up.
That's it. Now. I know it's it's coach, but they
made an exception because Kyle Shanahan is exceptional. Oh, by
the way, in the last four years. I looked it up.
Jets have drafted one player who became a Pro Bowler.
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It's him. I don't want to hear about precedent. I
don't want to hear about exceptions. Do it. And this
idea that he's a safety, No, he's not. The more
I think about this, he's a linebacker. They put him
at defensive end. He's a football player, and he's by
far and away the Jets best football player, and he's
by far and away the best football player at his
so called position. Just pay him. And I went back
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and forth on this the last month and a half.
I'm like, you could do either way, and I'm like, no, no, no, no,
stop stop new rule. I don't want to keep flip
flopping on this new rule. I draft you. You're the
best player in the league at that position. I don't
care about how many years left front offices figure it out. Oh,
by the way, you're still not paying Sam Darnold for
two years. Figure it out. Pay him, keep him all right.
(10:27):
Disturbing story in NASCAR, and many thoughts on that. Colin
Kaepernick Brett Farves on his side now, which is driving
some people crazy, Which is why I think I'm becoming
more of a Kaepernick fan. All of that coming up next,
plus Colin Right, Colin Wrong, Doug Gottlie this hour too.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
in noon Easter nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
(10:50):
FS one and the iHeartRadio app. NASCAR says a noose
was found in Bubba Wallace's garage at Talladega. Disgusting. Bubba
Wallace used to be on the Truck Series. He's never
wanted to be political, great driver, was very very good
in the Truck Series, and then they moved him up
from NASCAR, where he's been fantastic. He will, in my opinion,
(11:12):
become much more popular immediately. They don't have the video yet.
The FBI is involved. This is a death threat. That's
why the FBI's involved. They should be treated as a
death threat. I don't want to hear about anything else.
That's how it should be treated and the fullest extent
of the law. Throw the entire book at whoever did this.
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It is gross and it is frightening. NASCAR should thank
itself that Bubba Wallace is uniquely qualified to handle this.
He is a real grown up. In fact, he never
really got into politics until recently in Atlanta there was
a race and somebody in his crew kneeled and it
moved him, and he said, you know, it's time I
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maybe talked about this stuff. He is the future of NASCAR.
It should be noted, young, qualified, and tolerant. And if
NASCAR's got to get rid of fifteen to twenty to
twenty five to thirty percent of their fan base and
bring in people who understand the world we live in,
I am all for it. NASCAR again is incredibly lucky
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that Bubba Wallace is uniquely qualified to handle this. I
have never wanted to find a piece of video more
in my life. This is why we have Black Lives Matter,
This is why we have protests, this is why we'll
keep you updated on this story. I think I think
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first of all, NASCAR, to its credit, immediately acted, swiftly acted,
and appeared to be really ticked off. But to me,
NASCAR has gotten old, The audience has gotten old. Maybe
it's time to flush a little bit out. Maybe it's
time for thirty new drivers, new people, and some new
fans who get the new world we live in. Be
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sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays in
nowon Easter ninety and Pacific and fact, one of the
things that was never discussed about the ratings when Kaepernick played.
They were down that year eight percent. Oh, that's funny.
NFL ratings were down eight percent that year. College football
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ratings were down double that I'm reading it right now
twenty sixteen, CBS, SEC down ten percent, ABC eighteen, Fox
twenty three, ESPN six. What's funny. Kaepernick didn't take a
knee for college football, So why are the college football
ratings down way more than NFL? I thought it was Kaepernick.
(13:47):
Donald Trump was running for president against Hillary Clinton, who
at minimum is polarizing, So you had the most polarizing
democrat on the face of the planet, Hillary Clinton had
the most polarizing human ever running for president Donald Trump,
and the NFL ratings were down the Kaepernick knee or
eight percent, not eighteen, not twenty eight, not thirty eight
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forty eight. Studies indicate men watch two things on cable TV,
sports and politics. So as Fox News, MSNBC and CNBC's
ratings went up one hundred percent, football tickdown. Most of
us are grown ups. Even if we agreed or disagreed
with Kaepernick, we still watch football. Brett Farve this weekend
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thinks Kaepernick is going to go down like Pat Tillman
as iconic. Here's Brett Farve. You know, I can only
think of Ronald the top. I have. Pat Tillman's another
guy who did something's you know, similar, and we regard
him as a hero. So I assume that hero status
will will be stamped with Kaepernick as well. It's not
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easy for a guy his age, black or white, Hispanic,
whatever to stop something that you've all always strained to
do it and put it on hold, maybe forever, for
something that you believe in. This just drives a lot
of people crazy, mostly conservatives. Oh my, I can't believe folks.
(15:17):
Nike didn't sign Colin Kaepernick because they thought he would
tank their business. Nike stock is up twenty percent. Shoe
sales are up in a bad economy. The thing was
Oa's loud voices. Studies show that people watch football. Just
think about this. In the most polarizing election I'm fifty
five years old of my life, Donald Trump and Hillary
(15:40):
it was like beyond ugly. Ratings for all the cable
news stations exploded and the NFL was down eight percent.
That's it. College football was down sixteen percent that year.
They didn't have a Kaepernick story. The elections destroy college
football ratings and hurt, briefly the NFL's ratings. Here's another
(16:04):
thing that nobody wants to admit with Kaepernick, most of us.
And I've said this before, I'm not a big fan
of people bringing their politics to work. I said this
about Kaepernick a I think you should keep your activism.
There's plenty of time for activism, and there's plenty of
platforms for activism. If I have activism, I don't do
it on this network. I do it on Twitter, Instagram.
(16:24):
There's a lot of platforms for it. Be that as
it may. You can disagree with me. I'm not saying
I'm right. I'm just my take has always been I
wouldn't bring a picket signed to Fox. I could do
it outside the building. I could do it in my neighborhood.
I could protest. I'm not a huge fan of kind
of using your work for your activism. But a lot
of people disagree with me. But the idea that it
just blew the league up is a bunch of nonsense.
(16:44):
It is a most people can handle somebody having a
different opinion, even if you don't like their opinion. Joe
Rogan said something this weekend about Joe Biden and masks.
He was talking about, you shouldn't wear a masks, They're stupid.
I totally disagree with Joe Rogan. I think you should
wear masks. I think if everybody wore masks, we'd have
a football season. What worries me is you guys won't
wear masks. But I can disagree with Joe Rogan. I'm
(17:05):
okay with it. I totally disagree with him. I think
he's totally wrong, but I still listen to his podcast.
I feel like it. I'm growing up. I can handle
a different opinion. What's interesting is if you go back
to the Kaepernick year to prove my point again, because again,
if you just want to be right and use your
agenda to prove your right, college football was down more
than the NFL with Kaepernick. Why did college football get bad? No,
(17:30):
it was Trump and Hillary. But it was funny about
the NFL the minute the election was over. The NFL
ratings were down in September, October, early November. Then the
election was over, and after about two weeks at Trump
you know, being polarizing December and January, all the ratings
in the NFL, they weren't down as much. In fact,
the Super Bowl that year was the fifth highest watch
(17:53):
super Bowl of all time. You want to be right,
run the Twitter. I want to get it right. Listen
to our show. But the idea what FARV said this
morning is remotely controversial. There's nothing controversial about it. If
you politically have a point of view and you want to,
you know, you want to. You got an ax to grinder,
you want to proof right, go for it. That's fine.
(18:17):
But if Kaepernick comes back, it's not going to massively
dent the ratings. I do think there's two or three
percent of people that'll just say no. But I also
think in November, Donald Trump is trying to get reelected,
and if the ratings go down again, it won't be
a Kaepernick issue. It'll be a Donald Trump issue. And
they'll go down in college football, and they'll go down
in the NFL, and then by December they'll go back up.
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We like our football. We love our football. Colin right,
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that's Joy Taylor, all right. Every week I do this.
Colin right, Colin wrong, I'm both Often here we go
(19:00):
where Colin was right, Dak Prescott signed a franchise tag.
Now he may get a long term deal, but I'll
believe it when I see it. I keep being told
by everybody he's gonna sign a deal. Am I thinking, well,
they paid everybody else, when the when they gonna sign
him too a deal? I think this is his value.
I think thirty one and a half billion bucks. It's
a lot of money in a state of Texas for
a young man now now earned deserved. Blah blah blah.
(19:21):
Doesn't mean he's not gonna get a long term deal.
And my guess is with Mike McCartney, he's gonna be
better than he was with Jason Garrett. And at the
end of the year, you're gonna go like ninety six
quarterback rating, sixty eight, present completion percentage nine, win team
and they're gonna give him a deal. But until they
get him a long term deal, I'm right. This is
what I've predicted if they wanted to pay him, they
(19:42):
would have paid him and thirty one and a half million.
That feels like to me very close to his market
value where Colin was raw. Okay, eleven days ago, I
made a bold prediction on this show, and here it is.
So I get what time is it right now? It
is ten thirty five Pacific, So by ten thirty five
(20:04):
Pacific on Saturday, we'll have a deal done. Yeah, that
didn't happen, and we still don't have a deal done,
and my sources were not great on that. Major League
Baseball does not have a deal. It does feel like
it's getting close, but I think even diehard baseball fans,
I mean diehards, people that have defended it despite its
tissues for years, are over it and are embarrassed by it.
(20:25):
We're gonna have a season. It's gonna be really, really,
really short. It's gonna feel different. I'm all for it,
but at this point I think even diehard baseball fans
have to acknowledge this has been really a bad look
to the sport. Where Colin was right. So PFF Pro
Football Focus came out with a study last week and
it rated the best quarterbacks in the league on non
first read throws. This is when stuff breaks down. Russell
(20:49):
Wilson was the best quarterback in the league, miles ahead
of Aaron Rodgers, who I've been saying for years. Russell's
better than Aaron. But look who else is on the list.
Carson went and Jimmy Garoppolo. In fact, you can make
an argument these are five of my top six quarterbacks
in the league. Garoppolo is not the system quarterback you
people are claiming when the first read is not there.
(21:11):
He is top five in the league. And Carson Wentz,
despite all the critics, top five and that is with
offensive line and wide receiver issues the last two years,
where Colin was raw. Fox bet last week said Bill
O'Brien's the worst coach in the NFL. In fact, he's
(21:33):
the only coach that hurts you. You'd be better not
having a coach than having Bill O'Brien. He's minus points.
I'm going to defend this guy, but maybe I gotta.
I'm just seeing something. Four division titles in six years.
He won a division with Brock Osweiler. I could just
end my argument right there. But Fox beat now and
they're not trying to win an argument. This is all
(21:54):
about like analytics they have. Bill O'Brien is the worst
coach in the league. He's nine and two against Doug Morone,
and Doug Barrone is ready to significantly higher than Bill O'Brien,
and he's nine and two against him with several different quarterbacks.
I think he's a good coach. I think he's ALLOWSYGM,
but I'm in the minority. When I watch Houston Texans games,
they are inconsistent. I'm not saying he's top five coach.
(22:15):
I'm not saying he's top eight coach. But I don't
see a team that's uncreative. I don't see a team
where the best players don't get the football. When I
watched their games, the best offensive players get the football.
That's any I thought he was very successful considering the
Joe Pasandski mess. I thought he was very good at
Penn State. I'm in the minority where Colin was right.
(22:36):
Lebron James runs the NBA. Several players for the last
two weeks have debated Kyrie Irving, Dwight Howard, Avery Bradley
the importance of not playing in the NBA. Then Patrick
Beverley came out with a tweet last week and said,
Lebron want to hoop, we hoop. Absolutely been arguing this
for years. He is the gravitational center of the sport
(22:58):
and should be. He is well versed on politics, He's
well versed on basketball history and culture. He's well versed
on media. He's always prepared. He is not perfect, none
of us are. But Lebron James has made everybody, including
Adam Silver, millions and millions of dollars. And if Lebroun
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wants to hoop, we are going to hoop. This has
never been a league where the Orlando Magic mean as
much as the Celtics are the Lakers. It's never been
a league where jud Buschler means as much as Magic
or Michael. It's a star driven league, and he is
the gravitational center of the sport, not Kyrie Irving. Where
(23:41):
Colin was right. Kyle Shanahan got a new contract extension,
and here's why I'm proud. We all thought he was
a good coach. But a year ago, before last year,
I said, I live in Los Angeles and I like
Sean mcveay, But Sean McBay is not the best offensive
coach in his division and I said this as Shanahan
(24:01):
was losing and McBey had just gotten out of a
Super Bowl. I said, this is the best offensive coaching
football he is. This is the Niners have secured Kyle
Shanahan too. Now he's got six more years left. It's
one thing to say is good. We all thought so,
But you go up fifty and eighteen months ago, and
(24:23):
I swear to God, if you had a cup of
coffee with Sean mcbagh, you got a job in the NFL.
And I kept seeing I like me Fay a lot.
I think he's really good. You're not. Kyle Shanahan proven
again this week where Colin was wrong. Well, Alabama. I've
been banging on Alabama for years because they play a
cupcake schedule a year after year, and Nick Saban, after
about year or three at Alabama, decided I'm not going
(24:43):
to go on the road and never play anybody that
you've heard of. Give Alabama credit. They went out in
the last couple of weeks and they are scheduling big
boy football games home and home with Texas, Wisconsin, Florida State,
Ohio State, and Notre Dame. Now my guess is Nick
Saban will not be around for the Ohio State and
Notre Dame games. But nonetheless I have clabbered them forever
(25:06):
for manipulating the schedule. Everything is like in a neutral
side at a conference. They won't go on the road
and face a big dog Day, won't. Georgia will go
to Notre Dame. LSU is always willing to go on
the road. Alabama isn't, but to their credit, they stepped up.
I think the win, believe it or not, is not
just for college football, but for Alabama. It lads credibility
(25:28):
to Nick Saban's legacy because the one knock on it
right now is he has ducked opponents. You can't say
that anymore, especially in the next three or four years,
where Colin was right. A lot of critics on Lamar
Jackson and I didn't know if he'd make it, and
I'm surprised by how good he's been. But even after
last year there's critics and he did something again this
past week, which I just love. He's never passive aggressive.
(25:51):
He just tells you exactly what he thinks. And he
said last week, yeah I overlooked and we overlooked Tennessee.
He's also the kid that said yeah, I listened to
all you guys that said I wasn't a good enough thrower,
and I worked on it all off season. And he
also came out and said, yeah, everybody said I was
a little skinny. So I went and put weight on
how many young people we'll go out and acknowledge. I
(26:13):
not only listen to the critics, but I literally worked
on what the critics said I needed to work on.
This is why I like him. It's not just that
he can run around. The reality is it's not passive aggressive.
He owns his crap, he owns his weaknesses. He confronts them,
and this is why I think he's special. He came
(26:34):
out and acknowledge we'll overlooked him just flat We just
flat overlooked him. It's very it's a very rare quality
for a young person to be able to go Yeah,
I needed to work on this. I needed to work
on that. I needed to work on this, and I
heard the critics all three times where Colin was right.
This is the rightiest one in the history of the show.
(26:54):
About five years ago, the Jets drafted second round Christian
Hackenburg Penn State, nice kid, nice family. I said at
the time, it's the worst draft pick I've ever seen.
He cannot play in the NFL. He struggled in college.
He had forty eight touchdowns and thirty one picks in college.
He completed fifty six percent of us to those in college.
And I said, this is not a bad draft pick.
(27:15):
He cannot play in the NFL. He's not an NFL quarterback.
Last week he quit football. He's gonna play baseball. I
wish him the best. He's probably a great kid. But
I said it at the time. This was not about, like,
you know, I'm not sure will play. I said it
at the time. This is an NFL football team that
literally didn't do their homework. You could make five calls
(27:37):
or around football. None of the guys I like liked him.
They're all like, no, he's not he's not accurate enough.
He's a big, great high school stud but he doesn't
move well. He doesn't he's not accurate. Again, good kid.
Last week he quit football after never really playing. All right,
there you go, oh, look at this coming up next.
(28:00):
This is interesting, Drew Bledso, my guy was recently in
a Browns quarterback zoom meeting with Baker Mayfield. Do you
know what I had last Thursday night, I invited my
buddy dad around Rigus over and we had Bled Souls wine.
He'd never had Blood Souls wine. He has his cab.
(28:20):
It's the best cab I've ever had. Really, yeah, his
cab is. He's got a bunch of wines. His cab
is unbelievable. And my friend we had a glass. I'm
not a big wine drinker. We had a glass and
my buddy said, can I take it home? So he
literally grabbed the bottle and ran out of my house
and took it home. So Drew Bledsoe the Winemaker the
Quarterback is coming up next. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Herd Weekdays and Nun Easter not a
(28:43):
Empacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeart
Radio app. Drew bledso joining me via the Coward Google
Satellite network, just talking about having a glass of his
cab did oh my god, look at this. I'm working
calm you in this morning talk about trolling people. So
now that this is this is Drew Bledsoe's winery, which
(29:05):
is a stunning facility. You've been in the wine business
for how long, Drew U thirteen years? Now? Started an
oh seven if you can believe that. It seems like yes,
But yeah, I'm kind of an old old dude in
the wine industry now, and you weren't. You didn't get
into be a celebrity wine like this is a highly
readed wine. You in fact, you told me the first
seven eight years you didn't make a penny, right, Yeah, no, No,
(29:28):
it's it's uh, it took us seven years before we
started making any money at it. But we've got our
own vineyards, we've got our own facility, we've got our
own farming company. I mean, we're kind of a we're
kind of a real thing now and and thankfully we've
got an amazing team that's kicking butt for us and
making great wine year after the year. Uh. You know,
it's kind of like playing quarterback. All those guys do
(29:48):
the hard work and then I get to stand. It's
kind of cool. Double back, by the way, is the
name of the wine? Okay? Um, So I want to
talk about the adjustment period for New England, and this
is not a shot a New England. But I said,
this was an organization that had a couple of Super Bowls,
but they had a losing record going into Brady he
created this sort of unique kind of vision of what
(30:10):
the franchise is. And I think it's going to be
a real adjustment period, not just football, Tommy, but leadership. Tommy.
I'd like you to address those thoughts. And so you're
going to be a huge adjustment, you know, Tom, And
it's kind of funny column you think about it. You
and I are a little bit older. But but for
some of these kids that have been drafted the last
(30:31):
four or five years, Tom Brady has been football to
them since they started watching football. I mean, he's there
twenty years and you've got guys that come in the
building that are twenty one or twenty two. They've never
seen an NFL game or an NFL season where Tom
Brady wasn't like the marquee quarterback. And so just the
fact that's there and walks into the room with some
(30:52):
of these young guys, all of a sudden, everything takes
on a whole different level of seriousness. And then on
top of that, you know his work ethic which is
which is you know, well known, and that leadership that
he supplied and not having that there, it's a big,
big change of that organization. They're gonna have to be
some some guys that step into that leadership boidum and
really try to carry that that that load, um, you
(31:14):
know for the Patriots. And then you know, I do
think though that with Jared Stidham, who I you know,
I think it's gonna be a good player. Um. But
you also you go back and you remember, you know
Tom's first few years. This wasn't the aerial circus where
they're throwing at forty or fifty times a game the
first first fews that he was starting. You know, they're
playing defense, they're running the ball, and they're taking care
of him, not putting him, not putting an undue share
(31:36):
of the burden on him to carry the load like
he did later in his career. And I think that'll
be the case with with Stidham as well. Early on,
I think they'll take some of the burden off of him,
uh and you know, try to make things easy for
him early and then if he shows that he can
carry that load, then they'll give him more going down
the road. But it's you're it's gonna be a big
adjustment for everybody, even as just a fan. It's gonna
be different, right to watch the Patriots. You have somebody
(31:58):
else playing quarterback for the first time twenty years is
pretty crazy. It's interesting. I think Tom's going to flourish
in Tampa. But here is my only concern. It is
very easy to find a guy that's intense. Tom Coughlin
comes to mind. Take a really intense guy and tell
him to chill out a little. It's different to take
a very relaxed, chill guy and tell him you need
(32:19):
to be intense. New England is the epicenter of intense football.
Tampa Bay Ibor City cocktails at five. There's always been
sort of a loose, fun organization. Tommy's going to take
that intensity. Could it be problematic that it takes a
while for everybody to understand that you live in the
facility for four months. You know, well, first of all,
(32:44):
you know there are these different cities where where these
teams exist. In Boston is maybe the most intense, not
just football but sports in general. I had to learn
that I came from a small town in eastern Washington,
all of a sudden get slammed into Boston. You know
where sports is religion. You know here it was you know,
or to something you did if nothing else was going
on out there, it's they live and breathe it, so
the city, you know, that's different. But if you're playing
(33:06):
a professional sport, and especially if you're playing football, if
you're not showing up to every single day with great intensity,
ready to ready to work hard, bang heads, you know,
all of those things, then you're in the wrong profession.
So let's start there. But then with Tom, he brings
so much credibility, Um, you know to that organization that
he's immediately going to elevate that within within the building.
(33:27):
What they do when they leave the facility might be
a little different. The silly and go to the beach.
That sounds pretty good. I never got to do that.
You know, a buffalo got to go to Dallas, so
at least it was warm. But but once you're in
the building, you better have that intensity already. And then
with the credibility and the work ethic and all the
things that the Tom brings, I think it's it's going
to elevate. Thanks for that right away. I want to
(33:49):
talk about Baker Mayfield. You were on a Zoom call
last week, and everybody thinks I hate Baker. I've said
he's a franchise quarterback. He's not he probably wouldn't be
a guy put my arms around. But he's got town
and I did think he was. I thought the coaching
situation last year was not good enough at the NFL level.
I just didn't think it worked. I do think he's
(34:09):
going to have a very solid year, but again, I
think his ceiling is much lower than a lot of
other people. So you're on the Zoom call. Why were
you invited? And what did you make of it? So
their coordinator for Cleveland for the Browns, Alex van Pelt.
He was a backup quarterback with me and Buffalo for
a couple of years. We are also drafted the same year.
(34:29):
This this good story. I won't take a bunch of time.
But I turned twenty one at the scouting combine right
and Alex was drafted the same year. He's a couple
of years older. So my twenty first birthday was in
Indianapolis at the Hooters down in Napolis with Alex Vanpelt
and Juno Terretta. So Alex and I go way way back. Okay, So,
(34:51):
but so Alex invited me to come sit in there
zoom meeting and we talked a little bit of football.
He wanted me to talk some red zone stuff with him,
and then he wanted me to talk a little media
stuff with him. But then the rest of it was
just telling a lot of old war stories. But one
of the things that Baker has going for him, though,
is that Alex Van Pelt is an outstanding football coach.
Not only x'es and o's wise, but he played the
(35:12):
position for a long time. And I tell him, I
give him great respect because he played quarterback in the
NFL for like ten or eleven years with really not
very much talent, and I'd like to remind him of that.
I do think he's kind of proud of it, you know,
kind of a short guy that couldn't throw it real hard,
but he played for eleven years. But one of the
one of the great assets that Baker is going to have, though,
is he's got a guy that's calling plays for him
(35:34):
that not only understands the x's and knows, but he
understands everything else that goes into playing quarterback. You know,
Alex was he was in Buffalo with Jim Kelly and
then he went through the Flutie and Rob Johnson years
and then we were together for a little while, and
he's seen the ups and downs of playing quarterback in
the NFL. He knows how to help a quarterback. He
was really helpful for me just as a back of quarterback.
(35:55):
He was almost a coach on the sidelines. So that's
going to be a big asset for Baker going forward.
And I also think they've upgraded their offensive line. They've
they've done some good things in the offseason to to
build from the inside out. You know, a year ago,
we got all excited because they had all the bells
and whistles and all the fast guys and all that stuff.
But you and I both know that that true football
organizations are built from the inside out, and they address
some of that with their offensive line. Um. I think
(36:17):
he's gonna have a really good year. I think, Um
you know, I know you follow him on so he's
the only one you follow on social media. Doesn't hear that?
That's I follow on my social media. I spend a
lot of time on a column. Yeah you gotta follow me,
come on. But I think Baker's gonna be really successful.
I think he's gonna surprise a lot of people. By
the way, So do you have a camera, guy? There
(36:38):
is this your own phone? Now? This is actually a camera.
I'm at the I'm at the winery. We've been doing
so much zoom stuff now like everybody else, we decided
to get a little more professional. Uh here, last time
I was down on the Sara Celler. Today it's so
beautiful out, I figured I should sit outside and drink
from wine while I talk to you. So it's called
Double Back Winery. It is the cab is what what
(36:59):
are you drinking right there? It is great wine. This
is a twenty seventeen Double Backcab. It's the best wine
we've made so far, although the stuff that's in the
seller may be better from eighteen. But yeah, we our
team's continuing to get better and better at everything they're doing.
And you know, we've made some good wines in the past,
but I think our best wines were still ahead of us,
(37:20):
which is pretty exciting toil to say. All Right, one
more question. Dak got franchise tag. Now he still has
a month to work in a contract, but I do
think here's here's my theory on this. If McCarthy wanted
to give him four years, McCarthy would go to Jerry
and say, if it was Patrick Mahomes, you'd be like,
get him a four year deal, let's lock him up.
Is it possible McCarthy just doesn't know him and is
(37:41):
a little reluctant on getting tied to him for his
entire Dells contract. You know that's possible. I think there's
a there's a component where they may want to date
for a little bit before they get married, if you will,
you know, rather than going into an arranged marriage and
you know, seeing if it works. Um. I do like
this move for Dak signing the franchise tag. First of all,
(38:02):
you know these these rookie contracts in the NFL that
I mean, it's millions of dollars, but it's not forever
millions of dollars. But you know, franchise tags thirty million.
I think now you know, so this is not chump change.
So for Dak, it's a good puts him in a
in a situation where he's going to be financially secure
going forward. It also gives him some some negotiating leverage
with with with the Cowboys. But I think for both
(38:24):
the quarterback and the franchise, it makes sense to get
something done long term. Gives you more salary cap room,
gives stability. I really, I'm hopeful both for the franchise.
You know, if I was putting on my Cowboys fan hat,
I would be hopeful for the franchise that they would
get a long term deal done. And I really like Dak,
I really really do. I think he's a very good player.
(38:45):
And then all of the intangibles are off the charts,
you know, leadership, availability, durability, you know, all of those things.
I think the Cowboys would be smart to lock him up,
and I hope it happens for him. All right, Double Backwinery, Well,
we got to make this a habit. This is this
is from now on. This is where I want to
do my interviews from This is beautiful. Yeah. Absolutely, next time,
I'll send you some wine. We're gonna have some wine together.
(39:07):
You know. I did this. This piece of Jeremy Schapp
and his producer was pretty funny because we drank an
entire bottle of wine during the interview, and the the
the producers were like, yeah, I didn't know if Jeremy
was going to make it through the rest of the
interviews over his chair, So you know, I maybe get
some I send some rose down for Joy and I'll
send you some cab and we can get loose and
(39:28):
have a real interview. That's right. Jeremy's a little bit
of a lightweight. I can handle my red wine, not
that like Jeremy. Good to see anybuddy, Yeah, thank you.
Good to see about
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