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September 14, 2020 • 42 mins

-The Cowboys need to temper expectations, they aren't special

-Tom Brady and the Bucs will be fine. Losing to the Saints was expected

-Joe Burrow was surprisingly good

-Baker Mayfield is the same guy we saw last season

-Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Sports Radio. Ah, here we go. It is a Monday.

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Football is back in America. How much fun was that?
Live in Los Angeles? This is the Herd wherever you
may be and however you may be listening Fox Sports
Radio and right here on FS one. I sat on
a couch yesterday and watched ten hours of football, ordered
to go food twice. Pet, my dogs had a beer.

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Had the time of my life. I'm sure you did
something similar without the dogs. Guy may tacos and had
a chardonnay instead of there. But yeah, it was many,
many hours of the cow. So I'm a creature to
have it to begin with the normalcy I felt yesterday.
I was so deliriously happy, you know, I tweeted, It's

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a blessing, and I know that that kind of sounds dramatic,
but it was incredible. I still can't get over it.
I literally like we're having a football Monday. It's amazing.
I didn't think about COVID once yesterday. Now, of course
I didn't leave the house. That helps, right, you know.
Let me start with this. The stadium looks great in
Los Angeles. That's good for the league, good imagery. But

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expectations will, overwhelmingly in your life and my life, control
our happiness. What are expectations. I look at the Dallas
Cowboys and I think they have a pretty good head coach.
He's not bad. I think they have a pretty good quarterback.
And I thought last night that had a pretty good performance.
Those were my expectations. I think Sean McVay, this is

(01:58):
why I picked the Rams is a much better head coach. Coach.
They were at home, and frankly, I think they have
a slightly better overall roster, not as many holes as
Dallas in the back end, and that was the result. Folks,
there is something wrong with this offense. And now you're
delusional if you can't admit it, because I've seen it
over and over and over again. Dallas has a top

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three offensive line, maybe top five a top two running back,
maybe top three. They may have the best receiving corps
in the league, let's say top three. And they had
three points in the second half on the road with
no crowd against a very so so Rams defense. Aaron
Donald's great, Jalen Ramsey's talented. That's not a great defense.

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LA's talents on the offensive side. And y'all love Dak,
but at some point now this is the people that
are angry about this. If you're a Cowboy fan, this
is about managing your expectations. Your expectations are out of whack.
Once again, Dak a little uncomfortable on the road above
average football team. Here are his second half numbers with Zeke,

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with a receiving corps, with that offensive line, with an
offensive coach. His passer rating is fifty seven. Okay, so
the Dallas team I saw this is what I thought
I would see. Said on Friday close game, I'll take
the Rams. Sean McVay told you everything he thought about
Dak in the Cowboys offense. Five minutes left, Rams had

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outplayed the Cowboys, led by only three and got the
ball five plays, all runs. In fact, one time Jared
Goff had an open receiver. He made him go and slide.
He told Jared Goff run, run, run, eat the clock,
fourth and one at to fifty rams, punt at home,
moving the ball. Punt They punted to Dak with two

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twenty eight left and a timeout and Zeke and that
receiving corps and that offensive line at home. They'd outplayed Dallas.
They basically gave Dallas a chance to win the game.
And Dallas and in ten plays fifteen yards. So at
this point, if you're struggling with expectations, it's on you.
This team looks a lot like what we think. Alden

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Smith played pretty well. Dak made a couple of good throws.
Now you don't like the past interference call late, I
get it, But those things even out. Earlier in the game.
Jared Goff got picked off and hit in the face.
That's the illegal and they allow the interception. Those things
work out over time. Okay, the Saints don't think that
they think the world's against him. Off In the NFL,
you get a good call, you get a bad call.

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Over the course of a season, you get about six
good calls go your way, six bad calls go against you. Whatever.
But in the last fourteen games, Dallas is five and nine.
That's the reality. Dallas and dak twenty two tds, nine
interceptions in those fourteen games. That's in a division that
maybe the worst in football. That's the reality. I mean,

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yesterday we all saw special. We saw it on Thursday
with Mahomes, Russell Wilson, ridiculous, Lamar Jackson. Hello, Aaron Rodgers,
Oh old Aaron Rodgers. We saw special all day. He's
between both those teams. They're not a lot of special.
Rams are better, but there's not a lot of special here.
So at some point, I just think we have to

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be honest with expectations. With Dallas. They have a pretty
good head coach. You don't think he's as good as
Kyle Shanahanner Belichick, r Andy Reader, Champagne, that pretty good quarterback,
but you don't think he's Russell Lamaron Rodgers. And it
was a pretty good opening performance. Anything beyond that is
on Cowboy fans. It's not on the team. They are

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exactly what they should be, all right, So let's talk
about Tom Brady. So I have a theory in life,
and we all potentially can get caught up in our
emotions in the moment, it's very we all do it.
You do it, I do it. You know, you get
caught up in the moment and you're all the world's
ending and you're overly dramatic. But I have a theory
called to say it out loud. Theory. I got six kids,

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nunner in jail. I'm a good enough parent. If they're
successful or failures in life, it'll be on them. I
kept him out of jail, I kept him alive, I
fed him. They're healthy. It's good enough now. Day to day,
I may go crazy, they may drive me nuts, they'll
yell at me. I'll yell at them. But if you're
a parent with a bunch of kids nun are in jail,
they're all still going to school. They're good kids. They're kind,
they're empathetic, semi curious. You did a good job. Don't

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out think the room. You're gonna have bad days in
great days, So just say this out loud. A forty
three year old quarterback with a brand new coach and
a brand new system and brand new teammates with a
socio offensive line and his best receiver miss most of
practice this week, went on the road and lost to

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the NFC favorites. Okay, there's a reason Tom Brady was
an underdog for the first time in what like five years.
When the schedule came out and you saw this game,
didn't you think New Orleans was gonna win. In fact,
you thought they were gonna win by more. But because
of COVID, there's no fans in the stands. This was

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a forty three year old quarterback with a new coach
for the first time in his career, and a new
system and a new offensive line with no preseason and
no OTAs and Mike Mike Evans was hurt during camp
and didn't practice this week. When when Brady made mistakes
yesterday and he was better than everybody was saying, you
had a couple of deep balls pass interference that would
have been completed. So if not for that, Brady did

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played terribly. The Saints are maybe the best roster in
the NFC. I don't think they're Baltimore. I don't think
they're Kansas City. This is the Saints. When you got
your schedule, this was an L. You put a big
L there. Even people in Tampa that were realistic or
like this is a bad opening. I think when the
schedule came out, we said that we're like Brady didn't
get any breaks on the opener. This is what it

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looks like. Mike Evans and Tom Brady had a communication air. Yes,
of course, you didn't have four preseason games to work
any of this stuff out. I mean what I saw yesterday,
the good teams look still good. The bad teams are
still bad. The good teams miss preseason, but they had
momentum from last year, didn't get anybody hurting preseason, and
bad teams didn't have time to sand paper the rough

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edges off and they were still mostly Cleveland's into Dati.
That's what the league looked like all Tampa's been doing
for weeks and months as new player, new guy, new tackle,
new draft pick, new tight end. Tom Brady said afterwards,
it's mistakes. Mistakes, a new coach, a new team, a
new system. Clearly are gonna have to get through anytime

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you turn the ball over like we did. You know,
we had opportunities out there to make plays and it
just came up short. So there's no excuses, and we're
the only ones I could do something about it. The
Saints kind of play how they always play, you know,
they did a good job on offense. You know, we
hung our defense out to dry, you know, on some
short fields with not moving the ball, not you know,

(08:49):
doing very well on third down at certain times. Not
the turnovers really hurt us. And uh, you know, got
to clean that up for next week. We gotta do
a lot better job. I'm gonna make a prediction they're
gonna look much better against Carolina's defense next week. They're
gonna look much better in October, and when they play
the Saints in Week nine in Tampa, they'll probably look

(09:09):
better then. Now, I do believe one of the things
I really kept preaching over and over again New England.
You saw it yesterday. Efficient, no mistakes, no penalties. Tampa's different.
What Brady is going to have to get used to
is he's got more weapons, but Tampa as a franchise

(09:30):
has got more baggage. Special teams in Tampa have been
bad forever. Yesterday they got a pump blocked that never
happens in New England. Yesterday Tampa had nine penalties that
doesn't happen a lot in New England. That's what Tom's
gonna have to get used to. This is a different scenario.

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The most rigid, perfected, well oiled machine in the NFL
is New England. Tampa is often just well oiled, not
machine stuff. They're just a little sloppy and a little
loose and a little weird and a punt blocked and
nine penalties. And this is what Tampa is. That's to me,
the struggle with Tom. I mean when you go you

(10:11):
know that, remember that old I don't even know if
it's still in the air. It was like called a
family swap or wife swap or something when you go
from like a family that puts their money away and
they sit together as a family and read at night
and they're very efficient and very quiet, and they go
to bed early and they eat their vegetables. And then

(10:32):
you go to another family. It's live pote. It's Tuesday night,
what PoTA Wednesday night? What? Tampa's a little loose. They
can't get special teams right, they're a little wild cocktails earlier,
not very buttoned up. They weren't yesterday. That is Tom's issue,
not losing to the Saints. That's a great team that

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has a chance to win a Super Bowl. You were there.
They brought all their pieces back. Say it out loud,
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I watched Joe Burrow yesterday and I said, going into
the season, I thought he was a B plus prospect.
I thought he was Tony Romo. I think there's about

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once every other year. I think we have an A
prospect next year is weird. I think we have two
or three A prospects. But I thought Burrow was a
good player. I think the comparisons the Brady and Manning
are stupid. It's too much pressure on the kid. I mean,
he had one really good year of college. But I
gotta tell you yesterday, when you consider the circumstances, I
thought he was really good. I thought he was really good.
No OTAs, no preseason. The Chargers have the best corners

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in the league. The Chargers have two of the best
pass rushers, Bosa and Ingram. You're talking about a young kid,
young head coach, below average offensive line. You gotta grade
this kid on the curve. You got to consider circumstances.
My first forty five second reaction. Just what did my

(12:00):
eyes say? He's a little bigger than I thought he
would look in the NFL. He's clearly jacked up his
arms and shoulders. He looks like a Lamar Jackson. You
see him and you're like, oh, he looks a little
bigger than I thought. Joe Burrow put on some upper
body weight. He's a little quicker and more elusive than
I thought he would be. He's clearly trained for this
and put a lot of hours in. I thought he
looked really good. He gave himself a D, which I

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love because he's humble. I thought it was a B
to a B plus performance. That's what a franchise quarterback
looks like. That's what they look like. It's and I'll
tell you something that last drive. These are against great
wide receive great corners, great edge rushers. He'd been hammered
on the day. He threw for almost two hundred yards,
he rushed for forty six in a touchdown. He'd gotten

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his lunch handed to him. He had a bad, bad
late fourth quarter turnover. All that could get into his head. Nothing.
They gave him the ball in the last drive. He
marched right down. He was cool. He was calm, he
was poised. His were good. He wasn't locked in on
one receiver. Tyrod Taylor, the veteran to me yesterday, was

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too often locked in on one receiver. Burrow, the kid
was not I could sit here today and bang on him.
He had a sixty six quarterback rating and a terrible
late game turnover. I thought he was really good. I
thought he was really good. He's much He's a much
better prospect than Baker Mayfield, I believe after watching him yesterday.
He's not as erratic, although mistake prone a little yesterday,

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he's got more ups Maybe I don't know the upside.
He looks better than Darnald who's still making dumb mistakes.
Baker still feels like the same guy with a fourth coach.
If that's the opening act for Joe Burrow, that is
a good opening act. He never looked nervous. And remember
he won't face the rest of the year corners. That
good that those corners for the Chargers. They got three

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guys that can play, three guys that have made a
Pro Bowl. I think two or three you're still in
their prime, So tip of the cap. I thought he
was good. And by the way, I said this before
when I compared him to Tony Romo. Tony Romo is
a minus B plus quarterback. Tony Romo's good player. Y'all
dogged him for you. I swear to guy. When I

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was at the other company, all I did was defend
Tony Romo. Tony row he looked like a Tony Romo.
He can move. He's prone to an occasional big mistake,
but he's kind of a gun slinger. He's athletic, he
moves well. He's got a nice arm, not a great arm,
he got a nice arm. He looks like an athlete.
I mean, he reminds me a Romo, and that's a
really good comp Romo. If you go look at Tony

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Romo's final stats in his career, he's a strong B
plus or a weekame on his quarterback. Cincinnati hadn't had
that in a long time. This is a way better
prospect than Baker, a way better prospect than Andy Dalton.
This morning. I think he's a better prospect than Sam Darnold,
who I like, and better than Josh Allen. He's good,
he's a good player. You got a player in Cincinnati.
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dayson noon Easter nine a Empacific. Don't over react, but
I take what I saw last year, and I take
what I've seen the last year, and then I take
what I saw yesterday, and a lot of stuff's not
gonna stick. Jacksonville one, San Francisco lost. Don't overreact to stuff.
But I gotta tell you, you know, everybody always talks
about their top ten quarterbacks top twelve. I think three

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guys are separating from the league. I think Russell Wilson,
Patrick Mahomes, and Lamar Jackson are separating from the league.
And I think the fourth best quarterback depends on the Sunday.
Yesterday it was Aaron Rodgers. Sometimes it's Carson Wentz. I
like a lot of quarterbacks in this league. I don't
think there's ever been a time I liked more quarterbacks.
But I'm telling you the guys now, Lamar Mahomes and

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Russell Wilson are frightening. Like they can move, they can run,
they can throw their playmakers. I like Jared Goff, but
Sean McVay protects him. I like Jimmy Garoppolo, but the
coach protects him. I like Carson Wentz, but his highs
are highs and his lows are lows. I like the
Shaun Watson, but again, Hyser highs lows can be really low,

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and he doesn't feel like this group. I mean, I'm
watching Russell Wilson yesterday. That is one of the greatest performances.
I mean, he was flawless and they got bad offensive
line play on the road against the Pro Bowl quarterback
Lamar Jackson. I just kind of feel like I don't
have a top five quarterback list. I've got a top
three and they're separating again. Brady and Breeze are good

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when everything is going right. Wentz into Shawn and Rogers
can be spectacular, but Aaron leaves way too much on
the field. He didn't yesterday. DeShawn doesn't throw a beautiful ball,
and he has, like Wentz, some really bad moments. These
guys are sick. They're just unbelievable. You get all the

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ceiling very very rarely get the lows. I mean, they're
they're they're playmakers, so you're gonna make mistakes because you're
just maybe. Yesterday, Lamar took a shot in the sideline
and I'm like, dude, get out of bounds. But I
m a lot of what I see yesterday. Dozen stick
I got a top three quarterback list, and then four

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is about six guys depending on who they play. Aaron
yesterday was spectacular. I don't think he's gonna look like
the rest of the year like that. But I wouldn't
be prized if Lamar has twelve more Sundays like that,
or Mahomes has twelve more Sundays or Russell's got twelve
more Sundays like that. I don't think Aaron wentz or
to Sean. Will they feel like they've separated. I mean,
just they just are. You can't take your eyes off him.

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Here's the other thing. So I picked Baltimore to win
the Super Bowl and they look great, blah blah blah.
So you know again they were gonna win that game.
It was the only game this way. I wouldn't even
touch the Jack's Colts game, the only game I predicted
a blowout. I said, come on, you gotta give me
a break on this. Cleveland's got a new coach, Cleveland's
not as good Baltimore. Cleveland beat Baltimore last year, so
Baltimore is not going to overlook Cleveland. It was a

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blow out. It wasn't close. Two things I take away
from that game. Number One, Baltimore is fantastic. They would
have blown out a lot of teams in the NFL yesterday,
So let's not bury Cleveland. Okay. Baltimore is packed there, dynamic, physical,
They didn't even run the football particularly well yesterday. They're

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still dropping play. They could have gone to their third
stringers backups by the third quarter. Baltimore is a in
a salary cap era that's about as good as a
roster can be. They got deep threats, they got tight ends,
they got a start quarterback. They gotta go to the line.
They got star corners, they gotta star pass rusher in
a salary cap league. They got everything. They got everything.

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But the second thing, you can keep changing head coaches.
Baker Mayfield's the same guy number one. He continues to
think he's way more athletic than he is, tries to
run around. He's not number two. He still has no
relationship with O b J. Thirteen targets, ten targets, three catches.

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It doesn't click. Baker still wildly inconsistent. His accuracy, which
was a strength in Oklahoma, is all over the map.
He sails the ball way too much. This football team
in Cleveland, you can keep changing the coaches. You got
a limited quarterback, mistake prone, not as accurate as he
should be, not as athletic as he thinks he is.

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And they ran the ball very effectively yesterday with Nick
Chubb and Kareem Hunt. They had like one hundred and
twenty three yards. That's what they are. That is what
they are, and I think Buffalo's figured it out. They
like Josh Allen, but they're not led by Josh Allen.
You know, most teams with young quarterback. Now, now Arizona
is different. They just Tyler go save us. But when

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I watched Cleveland, you can keep changing everything, but they
were a mess early, they were a mess late o.
B J and Baker have no relationship, and Baker's got
to get out of this feeling that he's some like
athletic guy. Hyper athletic can move around. Dude, you're you're
a guy that throws well on third and two. Picket stick,
get it done, get it out, get the ball away faster,

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don't hold on to it. That's not your game plan.
But I still think Cleveland go nine and seven. I'm
not bailing because I think Baltimore would have blown out
everybody but Kansas City maybe yesterday, or a Seattle they
would have rolled everybody yesterday. But you can keep changing coaches.
I see the same Baker. I saw more potential with
Joe Burrow in his first game. He's bigger than Baker,

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he throws a better ball than Baker, He's more athletic
than Baker. He feels more poised, he feels more consistent,
more calm. I just look at Cleveland and I'm like,
you know, Baker afterwards on the Ravens, here's what he said.
Times a wake up call is pretty good for everybody. Um,
you know, a nice, nice punch in the mouth, and
that's how we should take it. We should, you know,

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not dwell on it. Realize that we just got beat today.
They played better than us. Look at it and get better,
move on and go play the Bengals. That's all we
can do. I don't think it's a punch in the
mouth moment. I think it's to realize what you are
and play to your strains moment. And by the way,
I know what you're gonna say, what about Sam Darnold,
He doesn't have these weapons. He doesn't have anything close
to this. The Jets have a completely rebuilt offensive line,

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four new starters, and they're not high end guys. Ones
are rookie and the other guys are kind of like
bounce around the league guys. There's are not superstar offensive lineman.
So you know, I didn't think it was a punch
in the mouth moment. I thought it was a moment
of clarity, which is if Baker is going to be
thrown at thirty five times in these games, this is
what's gonna look like. This is why it's gonna lea
running around more than he should, inaccurate more than he should.

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And let's stop pretending ob J and Baker work. It
doesn't work. They've had a billion practices, they've got a
bunch of games. It doesn't work. This is why I
think I think ob J. I think Baker feels like
he's got to get him the football, and I think
it distracts him. I think it gets him out of
his kind of rhythm. O. B J is a great
trade piece. I'd be happy if he went there. They

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Cleveland doesn't need another great receiver. What Cleveland needs to
do is just pound the rock, throw it on third
in two second and four. That's what they need because
they ran the ball against the Raven jesterday. One more
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(22:08):
do this every Monday. Colin right, Colin wrong. Over the
football season. It's just my favorite segment of the week.
Here we go on Monday where Colin was right. Finally,
Pete Carroll gave the offense to Russell Wilson and did
you see what happened? It was unbelievable. Tip of the
cat Pete Carroll finally first quarter nine for nine eighty
six yards and two tds. This has been my knock

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on Pete give let Russ Cook give him the offense,
and they finally did nine straight Seahawk receivers. And you
know what it felt like? It was. First of all,
it was sensational. But when you go on the road
and you're aggressive, there's something about the spirit and the
vibe of Seattle. They went on the road to win

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the game first series. They came out hyper aggressive, more
aggressive than Atlanta. They finally gave the office to Russell
Wilson thirty one to thirty five. He was sensational where
Colin was raw lazing five two and three. We had
the Rams right over Dallas. That was our pick of
the week, and we also thought the Ravens would blow

(23:12):
out the Browns. But I'll never bet Atlanta again. They
break my heart. I don't even know why. At this point,
I'm stupid. I'm tired, I'm over it. I am so
disciplined in my life, my diet, my exercise. I cannot
stop betting Atlanta. I knew I had something to yell
at you about this. Why I saw you on Instagram?
What do you do it? I have no idea. I
won't allow you to do it again. Nope, I will

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be the gatekeeper of that. I take on that responsibility. God,
it's ridiculous, all right. Where Colin was right. Fangals are
Joe Burrow's biggest obstacle. This is why I worry about him.
They lose a game, even though I thought late they
outplayed the Chargers, getting offensive pass interference in the end zone,
dropped a couple of key passes. Then the kicker pulls

(23:54):
a hammy trying to kick a potential game winning field
goal the offensive line. In fairness, they need another draft
to sew up the offensive line. But Joe Burrow was excellent.
This is why I said he's gonna win very few
games this year. It's not just on Joe Burrow. Young
quarterbacks need stronger support systems, especially when you ask him

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to start game one in a brutally talented division. That
is exactly what I thought I would see. Burrow played
fairly well and his organization just did what they do.
Where Colin was wrong. Adam Gays and the Jets were
the worst looking team. I don't care if you lose,
you can't look disorganized. The Jets first half was embarrassing.

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Does he get along with anybody? Does he have any allies?
Does he communicate with anybody? Sam Donald wasn't good either,
But Donald's got a new offensive line. This is a mess.
This is just a hot mess. They You know, they
had nine penalties, two or three of the more at
the inexact times. Nobody's getting better. That's what I worry about.
Tell me the young players for the Jets that are

(24:57):
getting better, because I think I see in Sanford. Just
go with Kyle Shanahan young players getting better. That is coaching.
It's not just drafting guys and drawn up plays. That's
not what they knew in New England. They develop players.
I'm not an overreactor on coaches being fired, but I'm not.
I don't if you see that three or four more weeks,
Gays doesn't get past Thanksgiving. Where Colin was right. I

(25:20):
fell in love with Kyler Murray second game in Arizona.
This kid is just a handful I can tend. He
throws the prettiest ball in the league. Secondly, like Andrew Luck,
they've just given him the playbook. They're not protecting him
one all. Jared Goff is still being protected. Garoppolo's being protected.
This kid through forty times against that defensive front. This

(25:43):
is Andrew Luck. Kid, here's the playbook. Go make stuff happen.
I thought he was fantastic. DeAndre Hopkins had fourteen catches,
one hundred and fifty yards, his best game as a pro,
and this is their first game together. This kid is special.
Coaches tell you what they think of their quarterback. Kirk

(26:03):
Cousins threw five balls in the first half. They have
unloaded the playbook on this kid. To have a guy.
He also ran for ninety yards. I just I know
you guys don't watch Arizona games, watch him. This kid
is a potential superstar. Where Colin was wrong, Cam and
Belichick never felt right. To me, I didn't get it.

(26:25):
It's weird. Rigidity and personality don't mix. I thought it
was really efficient yesterday. Now it was Miami, but I thought,
that's how you do it. You know, Tom Brady, you
short passes. That's how he controlled the clock and then
you let the defense win. Cam just ran the ball
and it was really efficient and really effective. I I
just always thought this thing is weird. The biggest personality

(26:47):
in the league and the organization that's almost anti personality,
but it works. Belichick complimented him yesterday, and you know what,
I thought Cam was accurate. I thought he made really
good Desisians. They played to his strengths. It surprised me.
I thought Miami had a shot to win this game,
and from the first series on, you're like, no, Cam's

(27:08):
got it under control. Where Colin was right, we said
the teams with new head coaches and quarterbacks, we said
eight of nine are going to lose. Well, they're two
and six, and they'll be two and seven because the
Steelers will be the Giants tonight. Now, Washington pulled off
a stunner, but by and large we said there with
no preseason, the bad's going to still be really bad.

(27:28):
And if you have new coaches and you have new quarterback,
this is almost too easy. You were going to struggle. Yeah,
I mean Belichick one, and I should have known better
on that. Now where Colin was wrong, Gardner Minshew, dude
can play. He can play. He's at you know what

(27:48):
he is. He's Baker Mayfield without the mistakes. They look
like each other, they play like each other. They got
about the same arm strength. The kid is accurate. He's
got a bad offensive line in Jacksonville. They have a
rookie undrafted wide receiver. He throws an accurate football. He
plays with a ton of confidence. You know. And in
twenty twenty, the NFL quarterbacks look different. Summer tall, summer small,

(28:11):
sum run, summer pocket. We just gotta I gotta come
to terms with it. There is no prototype anymore. Gardner
Minshew wears a bandana and denim jeans, and it looks
like it used to be in a Paul Newman movie.
And you know what, man, the dude can play. He
can play, and then he got nothing around him. But
confidence is really big in this league for quarterbacks, and

(28:33):
he looked big in big spots. I was really impressed
by him. Where Colin was right Houston Rockets, I didn't
buy in small ball. I don't buy in James Harden
as a championship player. Westbrook and Harden had their moments,
but I didn't buy into it. They quit. Listen. I've
said with Harden, he's a score. There's nothing wrong with that.
I would vote him in first ball. He may be

(28:54):
the best score in the league. But a leader, an
MVP elevates franchises a scorer. But how many times do
I have to watch Harden or one of his teams
quit in the postseason. It's not that they lost, They
had no spirit. They didn't want to play in the
bubble anymore. They wanted out. They just didn't want The
coach wants out, the team wanted out. A lot of

(29:14):
why you're seeing the Lakers play so well is the
leadership of Lebron James. He's like Fellas, two more weeks,
three more of what you got you. This is where
leadership is crucial. That's why Philadelphia unraveled, It's why Miami
was false, has been great. It's why Lebron's playing well. Leadership,
not talent, is now the key in this bubble because

(29:35):
we're talking about two months. People have been away from
their families and Houston looked to Harden for leadership and
it's just not who he is. Where Colin was right.
I don't get Matt Patrician in Detroit. If I had
to listen to another guy, tell me keep your eye
on the lines this year. Yeah, I'm watching what I
can tolerate. They're nine twenty three and one with Matt

(29:55):
patricia They let go of their best player, Darius Slay.
I don't want to to hear a guy dropped a
ball in the end zone. Mitch Trubisky looked like the
early leader for the MVP. Late fourth quarter, Mitch was unbelievable.
You either rise to the occasion in crucial moments or
you lose, and this team figures out ways to lose.

(30:16):
They're now one fifteen and one in fourth quarter opportunities
to mend win meaning they're trailing, they trail by a score.
They have the ball, they have a possession, they're one,
fifteen and one. I don't get Matt Patricia. I don't
buy the team buys into him. I don't think he
has a great eye for personnel. Matt Stafford's talented, but
a lot of guys are talented in this league. Now
there's a Matt Stafford every Sunday. Everybody's talented at quarterback.

(30:39):
It feels like in the NFL. Colin right, Colin wrong,
Good stuff. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Herd weekdays in noon Easter nine am Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. Well, I've
said this before, I've learned more football from Jimmy Johnson
than anybody I've ever worked with. He's just one of
my favorite people. And I love the fact that he's

(30:59):
still the show. He's down in the keys, and he
was one of the great college football coaches, one a
couple of Super Bowls in the NFL, and he is
just one of the reasons I like working on the weekends.
I can talk to Jimmy and I just pepper him
with questions and he's always got thoughtful answers, and he
is joining us live. A Hall of Famer now richly deserved.
We complained about it for years. We didn't understand why
it wasn't in. Now he is. He's joining me down

(31:20):
in the Keys via the Coward Global Satellite Network. So
let's start with this. So no preseason and everybody like
me can come out and criticize Mike McCarthy and I
don't think they look very multiple on offense, and then
part of me thinks, will settle down here, how good
can they be? What are the expectations when you watched

(31:41):
the Cowboys offense which struggled in the second half. What's
the problem. Where's the blame? Am I being too harsh
saying they just don't have they're just too vanilla? Yeah?
I think you're right on as far as not having
a preseason, not having the off season, not being able
to ample in some of the things that McCarthy can bring.

(32:04):
The one thing they are a very talented roster. Prescott
is a very good quarterback. The more I evaluate Prescott more,
it reminds me of a quarterback that I used to
have when I was at University of Miami. I had
Bernie Cozar and Vinnie Testaverti at the same time, and

(32:26):
people wanted me to compare the two. Testaverti or Cozar Testaverdie.
Big strong, could run like a deer, had a rocket
bullet arm, could scramble, could run, could do it all.
But the offense had to be precision for him. It
had to be take the step, throw it here, throw

(32:47):
it here, look read the safety through it here, or
throw it here. That's it. Cos Are You could throw
him out there with a bunch of ragnots on the
satellite and he was going to make plays, you know.
I mean he just made plays in some ways, not
as talented and not as good obviously, but in some

(33:09):
ways like Aaron Rodgers can just make plays, you know,
throw off your back foot, sling it under arm, you
do all these different things. And I think Prescott's a
lot like Testaverdi. You have to have a very precise
offense to be successful. But as far as letting him
go and just drop back and read the field and

(33:31):
make a lot of decisions, that's not his game. So McCarthy,
I'm sure will implement some of his stuff in time.
But they are at their best, you know, when they
are taking the lead, pounding the football, rushing the passer,
but playing from behind or even in a tight game.

(33:53):
Is not their game. By the way, you're a fan
of McVeigh last night, your interpretation. I like golf more
than people do. But what I think mcveig is a
pretty special guy. What do you see is a Hall
of Fame coach with McVeigh. I thought he did a
masterful job last night, knowing that they've got the pass rushers,

(34:14):
knowing that, you know, he did not want to take
the negative play, you know, in the negative play, the
interceptions or the sacks. So he ran the ball. He
ran the ball. At times it was boring, he was
running the ball. When he wasn't running the ball, it
was play action, dump it over in the flat. Very
rarely did he have to go down the field. Yeah,
he did a great great job there. Hey, and they

(34:36):
played coverage against those receivers and uh, and then we're
able to rush the passer. Yeah, he did, did a
great job keep it tight. And then of course one
at the end. So Bruce arians very critical of Tom Brady,
and you know Tom's been around the block. Um, your thoughts,
even though it was our first game together, were you

(34:56):
often publicly critical of a quarterback? Are you okay with that?
At you. I probably was at times I shouldn't have.
It should have been a one on one conversation. So yeah,
it's hard. I mean, anytime you call out one of

(35:17):
your players publicly, especially a quarterback with their egos, you're
gonna call some tension there. And I think it's tension
that you don't really need. But you know, sometimes all
of us, you know, the reporters asking questions, you know,
right off the cuff, you want to give them the
right answer. A lot of times you shouldn't give them

(35:38):
the right answer. Belichick's got it best. You know, owned
a Cincinnati you know, and so uh yeah, I don't
think it's good to publicly criticize your quarterback. Yeah, you know,
I tried to consider the circumstances with Joe Burrow. I
thought it looked pretty darn good. I thought that last
drive his feet were good. You could go back to
eight men compare like like, even when you were losing

(36:01):
with Troy early, there are probably things you saw that
you liked and you knew deep down, I just got
to get him better players. What did you make a
Burrow's debut? I thought he did a great job, you know,
first time, you know, right out of college, you know,
with no preseason, you know, no offseason work. I thought
he did a great job. He put him in a

(36:21):
position to win against a decent, not great, decent football team,
and so you know, he was able to tuck the
ball down run actually got the score that way. He's
gonna be good. You know. North Turner worked him out
when they were getting ready for the draft, and he said, hey,
this guy's got it all. He loved the guy. I

(36:43):
think he will get better better. It's almost like the
conversation I had with Troy Aikman his second year. I said,
you know, we if Troy hadn't hurt his shoulder, we
would have made the playoffs the second year. And I
grabbed him in practice one day, I said, Troy, I said,
I tried to get in the Pro Bowl. Yeah, but
it didn't work. I'm sorry, he said, Coach, don't worry

(37:05):
about it. I'll get plenty of Pro Bowls. You just
keep surrounding me with good players and we'll be fine.
And and that's the same thing with Burrow. If he
gets enough good players around him, he'll be fine. You know,
it's interesting. Baker Mayfield plays Burrow on Thursday and Cleveland's
got better players right now, and Baker's on his fourth

(37:27):
head coach. Couple one of them inter him, you know,
three head coaches. And I watched him yesterday and you know,
I've been critical of the kid, So you know my
word doesn't carry a lot of weight anymore because I've
been so critical of him. But god, we're on a
fourth head coach. He still is hot and cold. Accuracy
he and OBJ doesn't work. He's I still think he
thinks he's a little more athletic than he is. At

(37:48):
some point, Jimmy, as a staff, as an organization, you're
either in or your cut bait. Where where do you think?
I mean, is there gonna be a point this year
with Baker? If it's the same stuff that you have
to go sit to the owner and say we we
gotta we got the wrong guy. It's not gonna work. Yeah.
I think you just got to scale him back and

(38:08):
do what he does best. I mean that that organization
is so just here, there and everywhere. Um. Yeah, they've
got some talented players. Uh, some that probably got more
talent than they've got sense Um, but there there's something

(38:29):
there's something wrong there. It's been something wrong there for
quite some time. Yeah, you know, Um, it's I watched
Minnesota and Green Bay yesterday and I and I it's
funny about this. So when I watched Arizona with Kyler Murray,
I mean, Jimmy, they let him throw forty times. The
coaching staff, they're really handing the playbook to him and
they're letting him go. And then I watched San Francisco

(38:50):
with Garoppolo, and I don't know if Kyle trusts Jimmy
in certain spots. And I wonder about that from a
coaching perspective. Are you sending a message in San Francisco
to the players that the coach doesn't trust the quarterback?
Because I watched Seattle yesterday with Russell and Kyler, those
coaches just said throw it. It's and I feel like

(39:12):
that the players can figure that stuff out. Would you
worry in San Francisco that they're taking the ball out
of Jimmy's hands a lot? Now, Well, they may be
doing it for a reason. Colin, I just throw it
to you. You got Russell Wilson or Jimmy Crooppolo. Which
one do you want? Yeah, Russell, Yeah, you know. And

(39:35):
even though it's only been a little over a year
Kyler Murray color Murray's better. Probably, yeah, I mean, so
maybe the coaches are doing exactly the best that they
can do to get the most out of their player.
You don't want to throw stuff at a player that
he can't handle. Uh, you know, they're doing the best

(39:58):
that they can do to win ball games. And they say, hey,
this gives us the best chance to win. If we
open it up and we start doing all this, you know,
we're gonna barely be eight and eight. And so they're
doing what's the best thing for them to win ball
games because their quarterback is not as talented as the
other two. With Russell Wilson, you can do about whatever

(40:19):
you want to because he's got that much talent. I mean,
the guy's great. Aaron Rodgers, you know, hey, what do
you want to do? Aaron can handle it. You know.
They're great players, you know, but every quarterback's not a
great player. So you do what you have to do
to win games. That's interesting, you know, it's funny. Yesterday
New England only through eighteen times with Cam. But I

(40:40):
gotta tell you, Jimmy, when I watched him, I thought
it was an incredibly efficient game. Plan. I thought it
was exactly you know, it was like, wow, that's what
you do with Cam. Hey, would you expect anything different
from Belichick? I know, yeah, he's not going to let
Cam Newton lose the game for him. He knows what
his talent is. I've talked to Josh mcday niels two
or three times here in the last in the last month,

(41:03):
and they are so pleased. Of course, Cam, Cam's got
to prove himself. You know, Km's a very proud, egotistical individual,
and he's got gotten beat up the last year or two. Yeah,
he's healthy now and he wanst to prove that he
is a premiere quarterback. But you know, being a premier
quarterbacks not necessarily dropping back and throwing it, you know

(41:23):
forty times, right, you know, his strength is running the football,
and hey, this is going to be a very difficult
offense to get ready for. You don't forget Jos McDaniels
had Tebow and one with him. They're in Denver. I
mean one a few didn't win big, but one a few,
and you know here they're running the read option. They're
doing all kinds of things that Cam can do. Now

(41:47):
as time goes on, Kim has shown he can throw
the football as well as anybody, but it's got to
be a little bit like I talked about on Prescott.
It's got to be precision, read the safety, throw it here,
or throw it, don't drop back and look at the
field right. And so I think I think they're going
to be fine. And then once people spend all of

(42:07):
that time working against the reed option and working against
Cam running the football, that's going to open it up
for Cam to throw it down the field. I mean,
I thought they did a great job yesterday doing what
they had to do to protect Cam and to win
the game. By the way, you're gonna go fishing today.

(42:28):
Now I may go to mar though I can't go
two days without fishing. Okay, Well, well yeah, I wanted
to be ready for your show, so I didn't want
to go fishing this morning and then be real tired
and not want to do your show. You know, you're
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