August 10, 2024 • 34 mins
Where Colin was right and wrong
Nick Wright from First Things First joins the show to tell Colin why it's absurd Patrick Mahomes wasn't the #1 players on the NFL Network's roster of top players in the leaguer voted on by players
Colin discusses an ESPN report about rifts inside the Eagles and why he saw this coming with head coach Nick Sirianni
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
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mean again, there's one big controversial story and we guess
who has glommed onto that, the grifters, and that's that's
all they're talking about. But simon that I'm watching Katie
Ladecki men's women's basketball. That's the stuff that interests me,
the uplifting stuff. We do it every day every Monday.
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Excuse me at this time, Colin right, Colin wrong?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And here we go where Colin was right?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I said for years players tend to fall in love
with athleticism over everything else. And in the player's top
one hundred Tyreek Hill, the fastest guy in the league,
finished number one. I like him, but number one, And
Lamar Jackson, a player I love, fastest quarterback in the league,
finished number two. Again, I love Lamar Jackson, but Patrick
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Mahomes four.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I mean, Christian.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
McCaffrey is a fave.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
He's ahead of Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Come on, I mean, the greatest quarterback talent wise perhaps
in league history, who keeps hoisting trophies or at minimum
getting to Super Bowls should be number one.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Where Colin was raw I had said last week.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I think it was on Thursday, I was told that
brand and Ayyuka, the Niners, was in within a forty
eight hour range of signing a new deal with San Francisco.
Now he's a very emotional player, young star receiver. But
now there is a gap between the Niners and Brandon
Aiyuk that's developed. There's one story out there that they're
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thinking of moving him.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Again, I was told by a former player who's given
me through the years a lot of good information that
they were close. But I'm wrong as of now, people
I respect are reporting he may get moved, which is
what I said in the offseason. I think McCaffrey, Debo,
Kyle Kittle, Trent Williams are more valuable than Ayuke. He
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may be more talented than all of them. But that's
where we stand.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Aaron Rodgers, whether it's the Packers or it's the Jet,
you're just gonna get radio hits. Poking the ribs of
his coaches against authority in this past week. He didn't
need to go there, but he took a shot at
his New York head coach, Robert Slaw.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
I mean that's Robert's decision. I've never told him I
don't want to play in the preseason. If he decides
he wants me to play against the Giants, I'll strap
it up and look forward to that. I don't have
any restrictions. I'm doing keepers rollouts. So it was news
to me yesterday when he said I wasn't gonna play
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in the first two. Eric sent me that, thank you,
but we hadn't even had a conversation yet about that.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Green Bay or New York doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
If that's Aaron where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I am a huge Steph Curry fan and supporter, but
he's had a bad Olympics. He just can't find his rhythm.
Actually has the worst shooting percentage on the team. I
did not predict that he's only averaging seven points a game.
Now Foeba is different, more contact is allowed, lane can
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be all clogged up. It's just a different sport. He
has not risen to the moment, and he's been surprisingly
out of rhythm.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And I was wrong where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I said pre draft if any quarterback was going to
struggle and immediately, it would be Drake May of New England.
I don't think anybody, including Caleb Williams could win here
or maybe even be productive here. And according to stories,
oh yeah, Drake May three for eleven on Saturday, full
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team drills, three throwaways, three sacks, drop passes. The headline
in Nessen was supporting cast is killing the Patriots rookie.
It's gotten bad quickly. Not all his fault, but it's
just the reality where Colin was right. Now we can
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go to Justin Fields. There is a story. Arthur Smith
this week in fact this weekend said he adds a
different element to our offense. And this is what we said,
he's more athletic, he's more in his athletic prime. Is
that all he needs is snaps and reps with his teammates,
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his younger teammates. He's going to steal that locker room
and nothing against Russell, but he is declining. Pete bailed
on him, Sean Payton's failed on him. So this story
is what we talked about in the last week or two.
That don't be shocked with his calf injury if he
just steals the locker room and Arthur Smith saying with
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Russell Wilson listening justin adds a different dimension.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Where Colin was raw boy.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
The Phillies, which I proclaimed the best baseball team easily,
are going mired in an ugly slump. They have won
two of their last ten Big series with the Dodgers
coming up. They're four and eleven since the All Star break.
And Bryce Harper, now power hitters get in slumps, right,
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but he's in a doozy, patting one fifty six since
the All Star Break with sixteen strikeouts. So the Phillies
a team that can do a little bit of everything,
a deep bullpen, starting pitching, hit for power, right now,
wheels have come off the dog days of summer.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I said before the draft, in terms of fit, bon Nicks,
who's got a little Drew Brees may fit with his
coach better than any rookie quarterback. And Sean Payton again
went to the podium, and he keeps bringing up the
similarities with bone Knicks and a quarterback you've heard of.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
You see pretty good pocket sense. Didn't take a lot
of sacks. I think he knows when the play's over,
time to go, and then I think he can make
plays when he's going.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Breeze was one of those guys.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
He just he was a tough sack ball came out
and I think Bo has traits like.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
That, where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Finally, Daniel Jones admitted he did not like the New
York Giants Hard Knock series on HBO. He said, it's
been hard to watch it. I don't love the NFL
forcing teams to do it, especially losing teams that could
need and use momentum and some secrets. But this thing,
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the John Mara, Joe Shane, the GM moment in that
room talking about Saquon Barkley felt disorganized, un planned and sketchy.
I don't think this has helped the Giants at all.
I think maybe they forgot the cameras were on, but
them talking to teams moving up in the draft was
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a clear indictment on a young quarterback Daniel Jones, who's
struggling and doesn't need it. And Jones acknowledges he's watched
and it hasn't been good. Where Colin was right, where
Colin was wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
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Speaker 1 (08:37):
You know, I was thinking about this though, I'll hold
this for later. I want to I want to get
to Nick right, I'm gonna hold this for later. So Nick,
I didn't get to see it. But I walked by
a TV yesterday and Nick was having a borderline tantrum
with Mahomes being rated fourth on the NFL Top one hundred.
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He was livid. He was using Magnet's refrigerator magnets or something.
Let's let's go to Nick right now. He's joining us live.
He was very worked up. Oh I know is you
were standing, you were yelling there were things being moved.
You looked like that political guy on MSNBC. You were
moving stuff everywhere. So I want to throw this out.
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There's a lot going on.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
Oh. I was like, Kornaki, Oh, I'll take that. I
don't know if you're talking Jim Kramer. I won't take that,
NACKI Kornaki. I'll take that proudly. Yeah, I just need
the khaki pants.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Listen.
Speaker 7 (09:32):
It's an outrage and it's an insult, and it's further
evidence as to why, honestly, I should be the only
person entrusted to make any type of sports list, like,
you can't. We can't trust the media, we can't trust
the players.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I saw.
Speaker 7 (09:48):
You know, we have colleagues stealing my pyramid and putting
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
At the top.
Speaker 7 (09:53):
You did a tears which I respected. However, you had
Mahomes and Josh Allen on the same tier. It should
just be left to me, Like it's a heavy burden,
but one that I will carry proudly and with the
dignity it deserves.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
And people tried to justify.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
It like well, the voting took place in December. Oh
so the voting for the best football Player alive took
place while Patrick Mahomes was the defending League MVP, the
defending Super Bowl MVP, and the defending Super Bowl champion,
and he came in fourth. He wasn't even voted the
best quarterback, Like if the players wanted to get kind
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of hipstery and be like Miles Garrett's impact on the
game and he's a real football player and Christian McCaffrey
Tyreek Hill fine, but to have another quarterback in front
of Mahomes is an embarrassment and it undercuts the credibility
of the entirety of the list. And the list was
scattershot to begin with, having Doran Bland a head of
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Sauce Gardner. I would imagine that rightfully enraged Jmack having
Aaron Rodgers is on the list and our guy, Baker
Mayfield is off the list. Give me a break. If
you've watched football last year, come on. There are a
lot of problems, but none bigger than Patrick Mahomes coming
in number four and.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Sadly for the NFL. And this is why it matters.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
Colin the Chiefs now simultaneously can be the two time
defending champions in the midst of a dynasty with the
most talented player we've ever seen and underrated, disrespected, nobody
believes in us, and people can say, Nick, you're making
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that up. Four of the last five playoff games. Patrick
Mahomes has started, He's been the Vegas underdog. And now
the list is saying the Niners have nine players in
the top one hundred, the Cowboys have a half dozen,
the Chiefs have three, only one player on their defense
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which was dominant, and don't even have the best quarterback
in their own conference. Okay, let's see how that works
for the whole league over the next six months.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, it's actually it runs the same course that the
Patriots did, where Brady was called a system quarterback why
collecting rings, and they were always called less talented than
the Ravens. And so I do think in the NBA
we tend to anoy in the media before they deserve it,
and in the NFL we're more critical and cynical after
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you deserve it. And I think part of that is
the NFL media is tougher. The NBA media, because it
doesn't want to lose access to its four or five
big agents or stars, tends to annoy John Morant. You
know he's a kid. He's like a poor shooting guard.
And I'm not just blaming the media, but I think
there is a reason for it, and I think a
lot of it is based on you get a lot
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more love as a basketball star in our country early,
probably earlier than you deserve, and you get chopped at constantly,
even if you're a champion. That's how it feels to me.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Well, I also think there is a an urge to
move on to the next thing. Yeah, and even though
we're Mahomes is twenty eight years old. I mean, my
pal Mike Florio wrote an article a few weeks ago saying,
Mahome this is really what the article said. Mahomes is
twenty eight, which means he turns twenty nine in September,
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which means thirty is around the corner. So how much
longer is he going to play? And with respect to
my pal Mike Florio, I don't think anybody's worried.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
About Patrick mahomes reck hiring.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
And yes, I do appreciate him explaining how the passage
of time and aging works for people who didn't know it.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
But there, whether it was post thirteen.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Seconds game, the American media had kind of decided because
Mahomes after that game lost to Borrow. Josh Allen's the guy,
and then Alan didn't have the year they expected, so
it's like, Okay, Burrow had Joe Burrow, He's going to
be the guy.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
And then they lost to Patrick.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
And then last year it was like, Okay, the Chiefs
are a wounded animal.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
They lost to the Raiders. They can't win.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
And then despite that them winning the Super Bowl and
going on the road and being underdogs in the last three games.
I think people are tired of the Chiefs inevitability. But
we're just in the middle of it. It's not the
last years of Tom and the Patriots. We are still
in really the end of the first act of this play.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
So the urgency to move off it, I think is full.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
So it's interesting I want to talk about a team
in the Chief's division, So I tend to be I
was joking earlier that in gymnastics, I still don't understand
the scoring system. I mean, it's all subjective, but in sports, basketball, football, baseball,
I get Fox scores and first down markers, and there's
certain definitive answers. So I tend to be when it
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comes to those sports that I grew up with, Like, well,
this has proven so with Jim Harbaugh. San Diego College
boom works instantly. Stanford was the worst program in the
country oher to twelve at one point when he took
him over or something like that. Within two years, good,
three years, excellent. San Francisco overnight, Michigan five wins to
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ten overnight. I have proof, and in none of them
is he had a great receiving course. Strangely, they're all
built the same way. But we we love teams with fancy,
fast receivers. The Chiefs are better, frankly without Tyreek Hill.
It's a fact the Cowboys won more des Bryant leaves.
That's better. Actually. So my take is I've seen this.
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He had one receiver at Michigan and won a national title.
They didn't throw the ball. They're going to be excellent
because he drafted, you know, offensive tackles, got a bunch
of running backs. Why are we doubting they're going to
be great? Really fast?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Well, so there's to be two flies.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
I agree with your premise, and I do think Harbaugh
is a proven outstanding coach, and I understand that some
people wanted them to take neighbors at five. Yeah, because
they already have the left tackle taken care of. I
do get the logic of being like, how about we
just simply don't have to worry about our tackle position
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either one for the next ten years with Slater and
Alt and it's the type of team you want to be.
I get that. I don't think that's bad logic. So
I understand that the first concern is the planner fasciitis
or planner fascia. Injury for Herbert is always ominous. And
for people that understand this better than me is say,
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you know that can linger. So that's a minor concern.
But the other issue he's going to have is Colin
I think you alluded to it. In his career, in
his last three stops, what's the only one he didn't
compete for a champion ship in because he competed for
it with San Francisco, he won it with Michigan. The
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answers Stanford and why because they were not as great
as they were, They were never consistently the best in
their own conference. Well, the Chargers are not going to
be the best team in their own division. And I
see you on all your media outlets flirting with this
idea of the Chargers winning the AFC West because you
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so you so badly want to do the thing we
just talked about, which is move on past the Chiefs.
It's I think the tough putt is are the Chargers
and Justin Herbert ever actually going to and I shouldn't
say ever, but in the next five years, in the
next six years, going to be better than the Chiefs
with Patrick Mahomes that I have real reservations about.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Can the Chargers be a playoff team? Absolutely?
Speaker 7 (17:52):
Can Harbaugh instantly turned them from a five win team
into a double digit win team if Herbert's healthy.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I think that can happen. Been buying.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
It's very, very difficult to make the Super Bowl if
every playoff game's on the road, and if you don't
win your own division, every playoff game is going to
be on the road. And that's a really That part,
to me, is the toughest thing for Harball to get over.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
So I think let's talk Olympic basketball and Joel Embiid.
So I think you can explain Steph Curry struggling his age.
He struggled at the end of last year. The FOEBA
rules games are shorter. You don't get the touches. He's
out of rhythm. He's a rhythm volume shooter. Embiad's different.
So in Philadelphia the front office is terrified to criticize him,
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and because he's a great quote and a funny guy,
the media loves him, and we blame Ben Simmons for
everything wrong with the Sixers. I mean, he's you could
blame him for climate change, all right. James Harden similarly,
you can easy guy to blame marginalize. But this has
been different. This is now embeat at the Olympics, and
he is in the way. He doesn't elevate others, and
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it's got an Aaron Rodgers feel where you could always
blame the Packers conservative front office. And then Jordan Love
shows up and immediately by November you're like, I I
think he's actually better. Let's stop the Aaron Rodgers. Tom
Brady arguments it's not close. He's just prettier than Tom
as a thrower of the football. And we talk about
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embiid in Jokic and Yannis. No, no, he's not athletic
like Jannis. He doesn't elevate others like Jokic. He doesn't
defend like ad can we just acknowledge the Olympics have
been an awakening. We have to take him out of
that group we often say runs the league.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
So listen, that's the I think everything you said there,
unfortunately is fair because.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
List I have been an embid fan.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
I have picked the Sixers a couple times to make
the NBA finals. You know, I admit my You know,
if I have biases, I admit him. I think they're
they're in addition to being a pal of mine, I
think is one of the sharpest, savviest minds in basketball.
So I root for I root for Daryl, I root
for the Sixers to a degree. But all those critiques
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I feel have been crystallized in this Olympic run.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Yes, which is he.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Isn't in great shape. Now part of that is, you know, circular,
which is, he gets hurt so he can't be you know,
he can't do the conditioning he needs to do, so
then he's out of shape. But then that leads to
more injuries, and so you wonder is that ever going
to get fixed. I thought some of the quotes he
gave were really unfortunate. What the stuff he said about
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you know, Lebron and Durant and those guys, it's like
those are your.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Teammates for these few weeks. That to me is odd.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
And the fact that when they put this Olympic team together,
indeed obviously not born in the States and then theoretically
was going to play for France.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
And then we ended up getting him. It was a
huge coup.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
It was supposed to be the cheat code for this
Olympic team, that we're going to have the size, the rebounding,
the defense to compete with anybody, when we weren't necessarily
gonna have that on this roster without him, and instead
he's been one of the least reliable, worst players on
the team.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And it is to me.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
I think people and folks can roll their eyes at
me when I say this, but I just think the
data is, the facts are out there from watching the games.
Prematurely disdowngraded Lebron in his stature in the league because
they're like, he's in year twenty, he's in year twenty one,
he's almost forty years old, and when Lebron is healthy,
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we're seeing it right now he's still one of the
five best players alive. And I think they prematurely upgraded
in bed without a single great playoff run, which we've
asked for from every star ever, even if you don't
win the championship, just right starting to finish playoff run
because he is such a dominant regular season player, but
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the fact that the team is flatly better without him
playing in these Olympics is a really tough argument to
pull against if you still want to say he's one
of the four best players in the world.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Finally, I think I said this earlier this week. Jerry Jones,
owner of the Cowboys, is not terrified of never winning
another super Bowl. He's got three. He's terrified of irrelevance.
And Dak Prescott makes you relevant. And Dak's gonna get
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his money. It's a weak college quarterback class. I've already
had two executives in the league tell me they are
interested in Dak. He's gonna get his money. That's my
take is Jerry, is you know, as predictable as you
know the Morning Sun. Is that he drafted him, he
found him. I mean, during the anthem controversies, Dak was there.
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He's great at the podium. He keeps you relevant. I
think Dak's gonna get sixty five million. Do you think
I'm nuts? Don't you so sixty?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
That part's correct, No, I don't. Here's the thing. I
totally agree with your first point.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
And if I can, I'm gonna steal a line from
a mutual friend of ours, Kevin Clark, and congrats to
Kevin and his upward success and everything he's doing. He
said on his podcast or on some outlet a couple
of weeks ago that if someone came to Jerry Jones
and said, I guarantee you you win the super Bowl
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this year, and all you have to give me is
that you will never do a press conference again, he wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Take the track. And I was like, oh, I agree
with that take. I think that is correct.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
That if Jerry's like, guaranteed Genie rub on the you
know the crystal, I'm screwing this up.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
What have the genies come out of lamp? You have
three there?
Speaker 7 (23:57):
It is, I guarantee you win the super Bowl, but
you have to cancel your weekly radio hit and you
never do a press com to be like, now, I'll
roll the dice. So I agree with that part of it.
Where I disagree is this, if they were gonna pay Dak,
they'd have paid Dak. Had they paid Dak, it would
be easier to pay ced Lamb. They might have been
more active in free agency. I think that they are
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terrified of being locked into a ceiling with Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
And I think you're right about the money.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
Everyone that's saying, oh my god, Dak could get fifty
seven fifty.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Eight million, that is not accurate.
Speaker 7 (24:32):
It is a minimum of sixty It is probably sixty
five million dollars a year. And I don't think the
Cowboys are gonna pay it because if they would have,
if they were going to, they would have. So I
think Dak's gonna play out this year and then become
a thirty one year old franchise quarterback with a true
free and clear free agency.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
And I've been saying it, I will keep saying it.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
I really think Dak Prescott Bill bell check package deal
to the New York Giants a year from now is
going to happen. And I think Bill gets to end
where he started. I think the Giants get to rebrand
entirely and steal the Cowboys quarterback, and Dak gets something
like three years, two hundred million dollars guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
And that's where this thing ends up going.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Nick Wright. First things first, your your dress get every
time anybody.
Speaker 7 (25:28):
I said very nice things, by the way, about you.
I never promote the podcast on the show, but I
said some very nice things about Colin Coward on What's Right.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
With Nick right today. If people want to check it
out you, I'll send you a clip. Colin. I don't
know what came over me. I said some very nice
things about you, so I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I'll talk all.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Right, buddy, Nick Wright.
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Speaker 4 (26:36):
Jay Mac.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
We were talking about this with Hard Knocks. So the
new Hard Knocks has the Bears. The first Hard Knocks
was a giant. And there are moments in life that
you just have to be prepared for. And when John
Mara came in and Joe Shane the general manager, and
asked him about Saquon Barkley, and you have those cameras
and it's like, dude, if your owner comes in, you've
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got to have answers. If I meet once ye with
Lachlan Murdock at Fox, I'm buttoned up. Okay, I'm not
just hey, I'm an ard cocktail. You go to dinner
with the boss, look them in the eye. If you
have a message, make sure you listen. Like there are
these moments that are just more important than other moments, right,
And they always say for the quarterback, it's that Wednesday
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press conference. They have the bank behind you. You have
Philadelphia Eagles Century Bank. You don't have that in the
locker room. You have a four million dollar sponsor behind you.
Maybe the biggest sponsor, a bank that the organization has,
that the owner has his favorite sponsor. He takes that
bank CEO to dinner a couple of times. That bank
CEO gets access to the locker room occasionally that Wednesday
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press or. You're representing not just you, the bank, the team,
the owner, the whole thing. And these dummies out there
that argue, eh, just go your hat backwards, spitball and
start fires.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
It's not it.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
And this comes from general managers I've talked to. Baker
Mayfield was good enough. They moved about of Cleveland because
he kept starting fires. It wasn't because he couldn't play.
They didn't decide. They didn't sign Deshan Watson to a
terrible guaranteed contract because they wanted to. It was the
Wednesday pressure and the fires starting. And so when you're
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a coach, think about this. I want you to think
about this. So you're a football coach and you just
got an NFL head job, best jobs in the world
in sports, NFL head coach, thirty two of them. And
you have a day as you fly the owner's private
jet to that city, You've got a day. You tell
your wife, let's start looking for homes. And schools, and
(28:39):
you sit there and you make some calls for staff building,
but you you got to prepare speech. Now it's only
going to be about five minute speech. Seven minute speech.
Then you'll take questions, but it does matter. That is
one of those moments in life, like meeting the CEO
at your company twice a year. Have your crap button,
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don't be a moron. So when Sean mcvay's press conference,
he was thirty years old.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I mean, it's hard.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
To find thirty year olds on staffs. It's hard to
find a thirty year old college coach, not with the
richest owner in the NFL, Stan Cronkey, Remember Sean mcvay's
opening press conference.
Speaker 9 (29:20):
Our character will be the foundation, and it'll be the
glue that holds us together as an organization. We're gonna
be committed to our process and we're gonna be committed
to a standard of performance, and those things are going
to be focused on daily improvement and daily excellence, and
that's what's gonna help guide us on our journey to
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try to achieve a world championship and bring it to
this great city of Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
No teleprompter, totally precise and buttoned up, and that's what
his teams are.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I did make fun of Dan Campbell's presser, but he
had a play and his team has become exactly what
Dan Campbell promised us it would be.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
We're gonna kick you in the teeth, all right, and
when you punch us back, we're gonna smile at you.
And when you knock us down, we're gonna get up.
And on the way up, we're gonna buy a kneecap off,
all right, and we're gonna stand up, and then it's
gonna take two more shots to knock us down, all right.
And on the way up, we're gonna take your other
kneecap and we're gonna get up, and then it's gonna
take three shots to get us down. And when we do,
we're gonna take another hank out of you before before
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long where they're gonna be the last one standing.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
A little over the top, but that is precisely what
the Lions are. One of the most relentless physical teams
in the league. They'll draft the linebacker in a running
back first round. They don't care. They don't care. They're
doing it their way, their ways winning. But I was
critical of Nick Seriani because when he got the job,
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I called to sources, they said not ready. A story
emerges today from ESPN with multiple sources he and Jalen Hurts.
Jalen Hurts does not respect his ex'es and o's what
I was told, and he's losing respect and they don't
get along and not well liked. And we've watched him
yell at fans, but remember his opening press conference.
Speaker 10 (31:20):
Next thing that's very important to me is that we
build a smart football team. That we have a smart
football team here, and I know we have the people
in place to do that. The first part of that,
the first part of being smart is knowing what to do.
We're gonna we're gonna know. We're gonna have systems in
place that are easier to learn. All right, complicated to
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the defense or offense that they're going against or the
special teams group that they're going against, but easy for
us to learn because when we can put that, because
when we can learn our system and we can get
good at our system, then our talent can take over.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Okay, now I'm exhausted. I don't know what the hell
that is that makes jd Vance sound like Shakespeare I
can't take it. What is going on? And that's what
the team is. When he lost his two coordinators? What
the hell am I watching? What do they do well?
It matters, knuckleheads. You're gonna have moments in your life
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when you got to nail it, when you got to
hit it, when you gotta be great. There's not a
lot of them, thank god, But those opening press conferences
Sean McVay, Demko Ryans, You're like, I am.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Got button up.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
I mean, I'm in TV.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I can talk all day long. That's what I do.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I don't have a teleprompter, but this is what I'm
trained for. Coaches aren't trained for that. And I'm not
saying everybody that's slick behind a mic makes a great coach.
But the story that emerges today is a little over
his head, a little overwhelmed. Jalen Hurts doesn't like being
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alone with him. I'm just saying saying thing I say
about Wesday Wednesday press conferences for quarterbacks, especially young ones.
You got that seven million dollar a year bank sponsorship
sign behind you. It's the one press conference of the
week that Fox and ESPN we all run because half
the time in the locker room stuff. You can't make
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it out. The audio is terrible, but that Wednesday one,
that's the one everybody uses. Look the part, be the part,
speak the part, look into the camera, be smart, don't
be argumentative, diffuse, not ignite saying I know you think
I'm a mean guy, but it's this story, this, this,
(33:37):
this is what I heard when he got hired. And
then I watched the presser and I'm like, hey, this
guy's doesn't know where he's going. Now you're finding out
some of this stuff is like real, and Jalen Hurts
is spawning it. Jalen Hurts, who comes from I mean,
Jalen Hurts comes from Nick Saban and Lincoln Riley, who
can control a press conference. Nobody controls a press conference
(33:59):
like Nicksavid, like he and McVeigh at a different standard.
Tomlin's great too, by the way, but Lincoln Riley can
get a little snippy, but he can control press conference.
Then you move into that you can't blame Jalen Hurts
for going what's going on here
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go, hour two. It is a Monday Jmac
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mean again, there's one big controversial story and we guess
who has glommed onto that, the grifters, and that's that's
all they're talking about. But simon that I'm watching Katie
Ladecki men's women's basketball. That's the stuff that interests me,
the uplifting stuff. We do it every day every Monday.
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Excuse me at this time, Colin right, Colin wrong?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And here we go where Colin was right?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I said for years players tend to fall in love
with athleticism over everything else. And in the player's top
one hundred Tyreek Hill, the fastest guy in the league,
finished number one. I like him, but number one, And
Lamar Jackson, a player I love, fastest quarterback in the league,
finished number two. Again, I love Lamar Jackson, but Patrick
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Mahomes four.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I mean, Christian.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
McCaffrey is a fave.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
He's ahead of Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Come on, I mean, the greatest quarterback talent wise perhaps
in league history, who keeps hoisting trophies or at minimum
getting to Super Bowls should be number one.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Where Colin was raw I had said last week.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I think it was on Thursday, I was told that
brand and Ayyuka, the Niners, was in within a forty
eight hour range of signing a new deal with San Francisco.
Now he's a very emotional player, young star receiver. But
now there is a gap between the Niners and Brandon
Aiyuk that's developed. There's one story out there that they're
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thinking of moving him.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Again, I was told by a former player who's given
me through the years a lot of good information that
they were close. But I'm wrong as of now, people
I respect are reporting he may get moved, which is
what I said in the offseason. I think McCaffrey, Debo,
Kyle Kittle, Trent Williams are more valuable than Ayuke. He
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may be more talented than all of them. But that's
where we stand.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Aaron Rodgers, whether it's the Packers or it's the Jet,
you're just gonna get radio hits. Poking the ribs of
his coaches against authority in this past week. He didn't
need to go there, but he took a shot at
his New York head coach, Robert Slaw.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
I mean that's Robert's decision. I've never told him I
don't want to play in the preseason. If he decides
he wants me to play against the Giants, I'll strap
it up and look forward to that. I don't have
any restrictions. I'm doing keepers rollouts. So it was news
to me yesterday when he said I wasn't gonna play
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in the first two. Eric sent me that, thank you,
but we hadn't even had a conversation yet about that.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Green Bay or New York doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
If that's Aaron where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I am a huge Steph Curry fan and supporter, but
he's had a bad Olympics. He just can't find his rhythm.
Actually has the worst shooting percentage on the team. I
did not predict that he's only averaging seven points a game.
Now Foeba is different, more contact is allowed, lane can
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be all clogged up. It's just a different sport. He
has not risen to the moment, and he's been surprisingly
out of rhythm.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And I was wrong where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I said pre draft if any quarterback was going to
struggle and immediately, it would be Drake May of New England.
I don't think anybody, including Caleb Williams could win here
or maybe even be productive here. And according to stories,
oh yeah, Drake May three for eleven on Saturday, full
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team drills, three throwaways, three sacks, drop passes. The headline
in Nessen was supporting cast is killing the Patriots rookie.
It's gotten bad quickly. Not all his fault, but it's
just the reality where Colin was right. Now we can
(05:08):
go to Justin Fields. There is a story. Arthur Smith
this week in fact this weekend said he adds a
different element to our offense. And this is what we said,
he's more athletic, he's more in his athletic prime. Is
that all he needs is snaps and reps with his teammates,
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his younger teammates. He's going to steal that locker room
and nothing against Russell, but he is declining. Pete bailed
on him, Sean Payton's failed on him. So this story
is what we talked about in the last week or two.
That don't be shocked with his calf injury if he
just steals the locker room and Arthur Smith saying with
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Russell Wilson listening justin adds a different dimension.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Where Colin was raw boy.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
The Phillies, which I proclaimed the best baseball team easily,
are going mired in an ugly slump. They have won
two of their last ten Big series with the Dodgers
coming up. They're four and eleven since the All Star break.
And Bryce Harper, now power hitters get in slumps, right,
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but he's in a doozy, patting one fifty six since
the All Star Break with sixteen strikeouts. So the Phillies
a team that can do a little bit of everything,
a deep bullpen, starting pitching, hit for power, right now,
wheels have come off the dog days of summer.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I said before the draft, in terms of fit, bon Nicks,
who's got a little Drew Brees may fit with his
coach better than any rookie quarterback. And Sean Payton again
went to the podium, and he keeps bringing up the
similarities with bone Knicks and a quarterback you've heard of.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
You see pretty good pocket sense. Didn't take a lot
of sacks. I think he knows when the play's over,
time to go, and then I think he can make
plays when he's going.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Breeze was one of those guys.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
He just he was a tough sack ball came out
and I think Bo has traits like.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
That, where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Finally, Daniel Jones admitted he did not like the New
York Giants Hard Knock series on HBO. He said, it's
been hard to watch it. I don't love the NFL
forcing teams to do it, especially losing teams that could
need and use momentum and some secrets. But this thing,
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the John Mara, Joe Shane, the GM moment in that
room talking about Saquon Barkley felt disorganized, un planned and sketchy.
I don't think this has helped the Giants at all.
I think maybe they forgot the cameras were on, but
them talking to teams moving up in the draft was
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a clear indictment on a young quarterback Daniel Jones, who's
struggling and doesn't need it. And Jones acknowledges he's watched
and it hasn't been good. Where Colin was right, where
Colin was wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
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Speaker 1 (08:37):
You know, I was thinking about this though, I'll hold
this for later. I want to I want to get
to Nick right, I'm gonna hold this for later. So Nick,
I didn't get to see it. But I walked by
a TV yesterday and Nick was having a borderline tantrum
with Mahomes being rated fourth on the NFL Top one hundred.
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He was livid. He was using Magnet's refrigerator magnets or something.
Let's let's go to Nick right now. He's joining us live.
He was very worked up. Oh I know is you
were standing, you were yelling there were things being moved.
You looked like that political guy on MSNBC. You were
moving stuff everywhere. So I want to throw this out.
(09:19):
There's a lot going on.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
Oh. I was like, Kornaki, Oh, I'll take that. I
don't know if you're talking Jim Kramer. I won't take that,
NACKI Kornaki. I'll take that proudly. Yeah, I just need
the khaki pants.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Listen.
Speaker 7 (09:32):
It's an outrage and it's an insult, and it's further
evidence as to why, honestly, I should be the only
person entrusted to make any type of sports list, like,
you can't. We can't trust the media, we can't trust
the players.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I saw.
Speaker 7 (09:48):
You know, we have colleagues stealing my pyramid and putting
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
At the top.
Speaker 7 (09:53):
You did a tears which I respected. However, you had
Mahomes and Josh Allen on the same tier. It should
just be left to me, Like it's a heavy burden,
but one that I will carry proudly and with the
dignity it deserves.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
And people tried to justify.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
It like well, the voting took place in December. Oh
so the voting for the best football Player alive took
place while Patrick Mahomes was the defending League MVP, the
defending Super Bowl MVP, and the defending Super Bowl champion,
and he came in fourth. He wasn't even voted the
best quarterback, Like if the players wanted to get kind
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of hipstery and be like Miles Garrett's impact on the
game and he's a real football player and Christian McCaffrey
Tyreek Hill fine, but to have another quarterback in front
of Mahomes is an embarrassment and it undercuts the credibility
of the entirety of the list. And the list was
scattershot to begin with, having Doran Bland a head of
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Sauce Gardner. I would imagine that rightfully enraged Jmack having
Aaron Rodgers is on the list and our guy, Baker
Mayfield is off the list. Give me a break. If
you've watched football last year, come on. There are a
lot of problems, but none bigger than Patrick Mahomes coming
in number four and.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Sadly for the NFL. And this is why it matters.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
Colin the Chiefs now simultaneously can be the two time
defending champions in the midst of a dynasty with the
most talented player we've ever seen and underrated, disrespected, nobody
believes in us, and people can say, Nick, you're making
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that up. Four of the last five playoff games. Patrick
Mahomes has started, He's been the Vegas underdog. And now
the list is saying the Niners have nine players in
the top one hundred, the Cowboys have a half dozen,
the Chiefs have three, only one player on their defense
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which was dominant, and don't even have the best quarterback
in their own conference. Okay, let's see how that works
for the whole league over the next six months.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, it's actually it runs the same course that the
Patriots did, where Brady was called a system quarterback why
collecting rings, and they were always called less talented than
the Ravens. And so I do think in the NBA
we tend to anoy in the media before they deserve it,
and in the NFL we're more critical and cynical after
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you deserve it. And I think part of that is
the NFL media is tougher. The NBA media, because it
doesn't want to lose access to its four or five
big agents or stars, tends to annoy John Morant. You
know he's a kid. He's like a poor shooting guard.
And I'm not just blaming the media, but I think
there is a reason for it, and I think a
lot of it is based on you get a lot
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more love as a basketball star in our country early,
probably earlier than you deserve, and you get chopped at constantly,
even if you're a champion. That's how it feels to me.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Well, I also think there is a an urge to
move on to the next thing. Yeah, and even though
we're Mahomes is twenty eight years old. I mean, my
pal Mike Florio wrote an article a few weeks ago saying,
Mahome this is really what the article said. Mahomes is
twenty eight, which means he turns twenty nine in September,
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which means thirty is around the corner. So how much
longer is he going to play? And with respect to
my pal Mike Florio, I don't think anybody's worried.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
About Patrick mahomes reck hiring.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
And yes, I do appreciate him explaining how the passage
of time and aging works for people who didn't know it.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
But there, whether it was post thirteen.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Seconds game, the American media had kind of decided because
Mahomes after that game lost to Borrow. Josh Allen's the guy,
and then Alan didn't have the year they expected, so
it's like, Okay, Burrow had Joe Burrow, He's going to
be the guy.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
And then they lost to Patrick.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
And then last year it was like, Okay, the Chiefs
are a wounded animal.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
They lost to the Raiders. They can't win.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
And then despite that them winning the Super Bowl and
going on the road and being underdogs in the last three games.
I think people are tired of the Chiefs inevitability. But
we're just in the middle of it. It's not the
last years of Tom and the Patriots. We are still
in really the end of the first act of this play.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
So the urgency to move off it, I think is full.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
So it's interesting I want to talk about a team
in the Chief's division, So I tend to be I
was joking earlier that in gymnastics, I still don't understand
the scoring system. I mean, it's all subjective, but in sports, basketball, football, baseball,
I get Fox scores and first down markers, and there's
certain definitive answers. So I tend to be when it
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comes to those sports that I grew up with, Like, well,
this has proven so with Jim Harbaugh. San Diego College
boom works instantly. Stanford was the worst program in the
country oher to twelve at one point when he took
him over or something like that. Within two years, good,
three years, excellent. San Francisco overnight, Michigan five wins to
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ten overnight. I have proof, and in none of them
is he had a great receiving course. Strangely, they're all
built the same way. But we we love teams with fancy,
fast receivers. The Chiefs are better, frankly without Tyreek Hill.
It's a fact the Cowboys won more des Bryant leaves.
That's better. Actually. So my take is I've seen this.
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He had one receiver at Michigan and won a national title.
They didn't throw the ball. They're going to be excellent
because he drafted, you know, offensive tackles, got a bunch
of running backs. Why are we doubting they're going to
be great? Really fast?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Well, so there's to be two flies.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
I agree with your premise, and I do think Harbaugh
is a proven outstanding coach, and I understand that some
people wanted them to take neighbors at five. Yeah, because
they already have the left tackle taken care of. I
do get the logic of being like, how about we
just simply don't have to worry about our tackle position
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either one for the next ten years with Slater and
Alt and it's the type of team you want to be.
I get that. I don't think that's bad logic. So
I understand that the first concern is the planner fasciitis
or planner fascia. Injury for Herbert is always ominous. And
for people that understand this better than me is say,
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you know that can linger. So that's a minor concern.
But the other issue he's going to have is Colin
I think you alluded to it. In his career, in
his last three stops, what's the only one he didn't
compete for a champion ship in because he competed for
it with San Francisco, he won it with Michigan. The
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answers Stanford and why because they were not as great
as they were, They were never consistently the best in
their own conference. Well, the Chargers are not going to
be the best team in their own division. And I
see you on all your media outlets flirting with this
idea of the Chargers winning the AFC West because you
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so you so badly want to do the thing we
just talked about, which is move on past the Chiefs.
It's I think the tough putt is are the Chargers
and Justin Herbert ever actually going to and I shouldn't
say ever, but in the next five years, in the
next six years, going to be better than the Chiefs
with Patrick Mahomes that I have real reservations about.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Can the Chargers be a playoff team? Absolutely?
Speaker 7 (17:52):
Can Harbaugh instantly turned them from a five win team
into a double digit win team if Herbert's healthy.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I think that can happen. Been buying.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
It's very, very difficult to make the Super Bowl if
every playoff game's on the road, and if you don't
win your own division, every playoff game is going to
be on the road. And that's a really That part,
to me, is the toughest thing for Harball to get over.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
So I think let's talk Olympic basketball and Joel Embiid.
So I think you can explain Steph Curry struggling his age.
He struggled at the end of last year. The FOEBA
rules games are shorter. You don't get the touches. He's
out of rhythm. He's a rhythm volume shooter. Embiad's different.
So in Philadelphia the front office is terrified to criticize him,
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and because he's a great quote and a funny guy,
the media loves him, and we blame Ben Simmons for
everything wrong with the Sixers. I mean, he's you could
blame him for climate change, all right. James Harden similarly,
you can easy guy to blame marginalize. But this has
been different. This is now embeat at the Olympics, and
he is in the way. He doesn't elevate others, and
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it's got an Aaron Rodgers feel where you could always
blame the Packers conservative front office. And then Jordan Love
shows up and immediately by November you're like, I I
think he's actually better. Let's stop the Aaron Rodgers. Tom
Brady arguments it's not close. He's just prettier than Tom
as a thrower of the football. And we talk about
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embiid in Jokic and Yannis. No, no, he's not athletic
like Jannis. He doesn't elevate others like Jokic. He doesn't
defend like ad can we just acknowledge the Olympics have
been an awakening. We have to take him out of
that group we often say runs the league.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
So listen, that's the I think everything you said there,
unfortunately is fair because.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
List I have been an embid fan.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
I have picked the Sixers a couple times to make
the NBA finals. You know, I admit my You know,
if I have biases, I admit him. I think they're
they're in addition to being a pal of mine, I
think is one of the sharpest, savviest minds in basketball.
So I root for I root for Daryl, I root
for the Sixers to a degree. But all those critiques
(20:12):
I feel have been crystallized in this Olympic run.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Yes, which is he.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Isn't in great shape. Now part of that is, you know, circular,
which is, he gets hurt so he can't be you know,
he can't do the conditioning he needs to do, so
then he's out of shape. But then that leads to
more injuries, and so you wonder is that ever going
to get fixed. I thought some of the quotes he
gave were really unfortunate. What the stuff he said about
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you know, Lebron and Durant and those guys, it's like
those are your.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Teammates for these few weeks. That to me is odd.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
And the fact that when they put this Olympic team together,
indeed obviously not born in the States and then theoretically
was going to play for France.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
And then we ended up getting him. It was a
huge coup.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
It was supposed to be the cheat code for this
Olympic team, that we're going to have the size, the rebounding,
the defense to compete with anybody, when we weren't necessarily
gonna have that on this roster without him, and instead
he's been one of the least reliable, worst players on
the team.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And it is to me.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
I think people and folks can roll their eyes at
me when I say this, but I just think the
data is, the facts are out there from watching the games.
Prematurely disdowngraded Lebron in his stature in the league because
they're like, he's in year twenty, he's in year twenty one,
he's almost forty years old, and when Lebron is healthy,
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we're seeing it right now he's still one of the
five best players alive. And I think they prematurely upgraded
in bed without a single great playoff run, which we've
asked for from every star ever, even if you don't
win the championship, just right starting to finish playoff run
because he is such a dominant regular season player, but
(22:06):
the fact that the team is flatly better without him
playing in these Olympics is a really tough argument to
pull against if you still want to say he's one
of the four best players in the world.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Finally, I think I said this earlier this week. Jerry Jones,
owner of the Cowboys, is not terrified of never winning
another super Bowl. He's got three. He's terrified of irrelevance.
And Dak Prescott makes you relevant. And Dak's gonna get
(22:39):
his money. It's a weak college quarterback class. I've already
had two executives in the league tell me they are
interested in Dak. He's gonna get his money. That's my
take is Jerry, is you know, as predictable as you
know the Morning Sun. Is that he drafted him, he
found him. I mean, during the anthem controversies, Dak was there.
(23:02):
He's great at the podium. He keeps you relevant. I
think Dak's gonna get sixty five million. Do you think
I'm nuts? Don't you so sixty?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
That part's correct, No, I don't. Here's the thing. I
totally agree with your first point.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
And if I can, I'm gonna steal a line from
a mutual friend of ours, Kevin Clark, and congrats to
Kevin and his upward success and everything he's doing. He
said on his podcast or on some outlet a couple
of weeks ago that if someone came to Jerry Jones
and said, I guarantee you you win the super Bowl
(23:35):
this year, and all you have to give me is
that you will never do a press conference again, he wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Take the track. And I was like, oh, I agree
with that take. I think that is correct.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
That if Jerry's like, guaranteed Genie rub on the you
know the crystal, I'm screwing this up.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
What have the genies come out of lamp? You have
three there?
Speaker 7 (23:57):
It is, I guarantee you win the super Bowl, but
you have to cancel your weekly radio hit and you
never do a press com to be like, now, I'll
roll the dice. So I agree with that part of it.
Where I disagree is this, if they were gonna pay Dak,
they'd have paid Dak. Had they paid Dak, it would
be easier to pay ced Lamb. They might have been
more active in free agency. I think that they are
(24:20):
terrified of being locked into a ceiling with Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
And I think you're right about the money.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
Everyone that's saying, oh my god, Dak could get fifty
seven fifty.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Eight million, that is not accurate.
Speaker 7 (24:32):
It is a minimum of sixty It is probably sixty
five million dollars a year. And I don't think the
Cowboys are gonna pay it because if they would have,
if they were going to, they would have. So I
think Dak's gonna play out this year and then become
a thirty one year old franchise quarterback with a true
free and clear free agency.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
And I've been saying it, I will keep saying it.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
I really think Dak Prescott Bill bell check package deal
to the New York Giants a year from now is
going to happen. And I think Bill gets to end
where he started. I think the Giants get to rebrand
entirely and steal the Cowboys quarterback, and Dak gets something
like three years, two hundred million dollars guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
And that's where this thing ends up going.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Nick Wright. First things first, your your dress get every
time anybody.
Speaker 7 (25:28):
I said very nice things, by the way, about you.
I never promote the podcast on the show, but I
said some very nice things about Colin Coward on What's Right.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
With Nick right today. If people want to check it
out you, I'll send you a clip. Colin. I don't
know what came over me. I said some very nice
things about you, so I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I'll talk all.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Right, buddy, Nick Wright.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
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Speaker 1 (26:27):
Welcome in hour two. It's a Wednesday live in Los Angeles.
It's the hurt wherever you may be and however you
may be listening, Thanks for making us part of your day.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Jay Mac.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
We were talking about this with Hard Knocks. So the
new Hard Knocks has the Bears. The first Hard Knocks
was a giant. And there are moments in life that
you just have to be prepared for. And when John
Mara came in and Joe Shane the general manager, and
asked him about Saquon Barkley, and you have those cameras
and it's like, dude, if your owner comes in, you've
(26:56):
got to have answers. If I meet once ye with
Lachlan Murdock at Fox, I'm buttoned up. Okay, I'm not
just hey, I'm an ard cocktail. You go to dinner
with the boss, look them in the eye. If you
have a message, make sure you listen. Like there are
these moments that are just more important than other moments, right,
And they always say for the quarterback, it's that Wednesday
(27:18):
press conference. They have the bank behind you. You have
Philadelphia Eagles Century Bank. You don't have that in the
locker room. You have a four million dollar sponsor behind you.
Maybe the biggest sponsor, a bank that the organization has,
that the owner has his favorite sponsor. He takes that
bank CEO to dinner a couple of times. That bank
CEO gets access to the locker room occasionally that Wednesday
(27:42):
press or. You're representing not just you, the bank, the team,
the owner, the whole thing. And these dummies out there
that argue, eh, just go your hat backwards, spitball and
start fires.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
It's not it.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
And this comes from general managers I've talked to. Baker
Mayfield was good enough. They moved about of Cleveland because
he kept starting fires. It wasn't because he couldn't play.
They didn't decide. They didn't sign Deshan Watson to a
terrible guaranteed contract because they wanted to. It was the
Wednesday pressure and the fires starting. And so when you're
(28:17):
a coach, think about this. I want you to think
about this. So you're a football coach and you just
got an NFL head job, best jobs in the world
in sports, NFL head coach, thirty two of them. And
you have a day as you fly the owner's private
jet to that city, You've got a day. You tell
your wife, let's start looking for homes. And schools, and
(28:39):
you sit there and you make some calls for staff building,
but you you got to prepare speech. Now it's only
going to be about five minute speech. Seven minute speech.
Then you'll take questions, but it does matter. That is
one of those moments in life, like meeting the CEO
at your company twice a year. Have your crap button,
(29:00):
don't be a moron. So when Sean mcvay's press conference,
he was thirty years old.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I mean, it's hard.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
To find thirty year olds on staffs. It's hard to
find a thirty year old college coach, not with the
richest owner in the NFL, Stan Cronkey, Remember Sean mcvay's
opening press conference.
Speaker 9 (29:20):
Our character will be the foundation, and it'll be the
glue that holds us together as an organization. We're gonna
be committed to our process and we're gonna be committed
to a standard of performance, and those things are going
to be focused on daily improvement and daily excellence, and
that's what's gonna help guide us on our journey to
(29:41):
try to achieve a world championship and bring it to
this great city of Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
No teleprompter, totally precise and buttoned up, and that's what
his teams are.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I did make fun of Dan Campbell's presser, but he
had a play and his team has become exactly what
Dan Campbell promised us it would be.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
We're gonna kick you in the teeth, all right, and
when you punch us back, we're gonna smile at you.
And when you knock us down, we're gonna get up.
And on the way up, we're gonna buy a kneecap off,
all right, and we're gonna stand up, and then it's
gonna take two more shots to knock us down, all right.
And on the way up, we're gonna take your other
kneecap and we're gonna get up, and then it's gonna
take three shots to get us down. And when we do,
we're gonna take another hank out of you before before
(30:31):
long where they're gonna be the last one standing.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
A little over the top, but that is precisely what
the Lions are. One of the most relentless physical teams
in the league. They'll draft the linebacker in a running
back first round. They don't care. They don't care. They're
doing it their way, their ways winning. But I was
critical of Nick Seriani because when he got the job,
(30:57):
I called to sources, they said not ready. A story
emerges today from ESPN with multiple sources he and Jalen Hurts.
Jalen Hurts does not respect his ex'es and o's what
I was told, and he's losing respect and they don't
get along and not well liked. And we've watched him
yell at fans, but remember his opening press conference.
Speaker 10 (31:20):
Next thing that's very important to me is that we
build a smart football team. That we have a smart
football team here, and I know we have the people
in place to do that. The first part of that,
the first part of being smart is knowing what to do.
We're gonna we're gonna know. We're gonna have systems in
place that are easier to learn. All right, complicated to
(31:41):
the defense or offense that they're going against or the
special teams group that they're going against, but easy for
us to learn because when we can put that, because
when we can learn our system and we can get
good at our system, then our talent can take over.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Okay, now I'm exhausted. I don't know what the hell
that is that makes jd Vance sound like Shakespeare I
can't take it. What is going on? And that's what
the team is. When he lost his two coordinators? What
the hell am I watching? What do they do well?
It matters, knuckleheads. You're gonna have moments in your life
(32:17):
when you got to nail it, when you got to
hit it, when you gotta be great. There's not a
lot of them, thank god, But those opening press conferences
Sean McVay, Demko Ryans, You're like, I am.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Got button up.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
I mean, I'm in TV.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I can talk all day long. That's what I do.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I don't have a teleprompter, but this is what I'm
trained for. Coaches aren't trained for that. And I'm not
saying everybody that's slick behind a mic makes a great coach.
But the story that emerges today is a little over
his head, a little overwhelmed. Jalen Hurts doesn't like being
(32:56):
alone with him. I'm just saying saying thing I say
about Wesday Wednesday press conferences for quarterbacks, especially young ones.
You got that seven million dollar a year bank sponsorship
sign behind you. It's the one press conference of the
week that Fox and ESPN we all run because half
the time in the locker room stuff. You can't make
(33:16):
it out. The audio is terrible, but that Wednesday one,
that's the one everybody uses. Look the part, be the part,
speak the part, look into the camera, be smart, don't
be argumentative, diffuse, not ignite saying I know you think
I'm a mean guy, but it's this story, this, this,
(33:37):
this is what I heard when he got hired. And
then I watched the presser and I'm like, hey, this
guy's doesn't know where he's going. Now you're finding out
some of this stuff is like real, and Jalen Hurts
is spawning it. Jalen Hurts, who comes from I mean,
Jalen Hurts comes from Nick Saban and Lincoln Riley, who
can control a press conference. Nobody controls a press conference
(33:59):
like Nicksavid, like he and McVeigh at a different standard.
Tomlin's great too, by the way, but Lincoln Riley can
get a little snippy, but he can control press conference.
Then you move into that you can't blame Jalen Hurts
for going what's going on here
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