October 26, 2024 • 29 mins
Where Colin was right and wrong
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go, our and two. It is a Monday.
Matt Hasselbeck. In five minutes, he'll be great as Oah's
live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd wherever you may
be and however you may be listening. Thanks so much
for making us part of your day. Julian Edelman last
hour as well. Colin Wright conrang around the corner.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
It was a tough night. Jmac. It's a Jets fan.
Good news.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
The Yankees are in the World Series against the Dodgers.
Had both those TVs on last night. I got a
little Dodger W. Shocking Steeler W. It was the ease
in which the Steelers won in the second half. Didn't
don't expect that at all?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Did you watch the Lucky Chiefs? Certainly did you not?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Not? Yesterday was a lucky chief sir.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
That twelve.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Well I'm looking Patrick Bohods one hundred and fifty four
yards passing. Okay, he now has tied for the interception
league lead.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Okay, as many touchdown passes.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Daniel Jones, what's shocking?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
What's it saying about Brock Purty. You couldn't beat that guy?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Brock Party had a rough game, not a great game.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
When he by the way Deebo Samuel practices all week,
everything looks good. He played three plays in the game
and then has to leave sick, like between no Jennings,
no Debo, no cemac Brandon. I you pops his acl
it starts to make some excuses for one mister Purty.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Well you can do that, Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Colin right wrong in a Monday as allays, here we
go where Colin was right? Then?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I think Brock Purty is a good quarterback.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
But you're going to be judged ultimately on how do
you play against the best teams in high leverage situations
and when not everything is available to you? Yeah, guess
who was also missing receivers and a running back? Patrick Mahomes.
He now doesn't have a stacked deck. Brock Purtty doesn't.
He's twenty second in completion percentage. Got lectured during the
game by Kyle Shanahan and listen, that's why we said
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contextualized quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Who was their coordinator.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
It's a lot different getting you know, the keys to
a nice car was Shanahan and Trent Williams and Deebo
and Christian McCaffrey. But eventually, if you had to pay
rock pretty, you don't get all those toys.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Where Colin was raw ooy.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Georgia thump Texas, didn't they I mean, Georgia re established itself.
It looked like Texas was too busy feeling good about Texas.
Georgia had seven sacks, it felt like they could have
had seven more. Longhorns could not run the ball. They
felt like they kind of panicked at quarterback. They were
atrocious on third down. You know, listen, with a college
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football playoff, these two could probably meet down the road
in eight weeks or whatever it is. But in the end,
this was a program built on defense against the high
glamour program that wanted to tell you they were ready,
they were ready for the moment, and Texas was not
ready for the moment at all. Where Colin was right,
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my guy boringly elite Jared Goff twenty two to twenty
five against a very good Minnesota team, four games in
a row, passer rating at least one thirteen. And the
thing I love about him, there is no sizzle. It
is all stake and I know his TikTok videos aren't
as cool, but in the last four games it looks
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like pitch and catch.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
He is just in a zone.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
In fact, in his last four games, Detroit has more
touchdowns eighteen than Goff has incompletions.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Sixteen, where Colin was raw.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I have defended Lincoln Riley at every turn and he's
not going to get fired, but increasingly you were wondering
if he's the right fit. They lead in the fourth quarter,
in the second half in all these games, but they
lack the physicality and the toughness to put it away. Now,
some of this is they're very very young on offense.
But you know what, he took all for Bob stoops
in a very good program with inertia and momentum, and
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he had to rebuild this thing. And after a flashy
first year where they were probably better than they should
have been, it's all been downhill Maryland Minnesota. I'll give
you a loss to Penn State. That's a terrific program.
But I'll go back to this. They have one running
back they trust in the program it's usc and two
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tackles that can play after three years.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
That's not good enough. LinkedIn where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I'm a Jordan Love fan, and I know he makes
mistakes and he's more far than Aaron Rodgers. But the
joy he plays with the support he gets from his
coaches even after big mistakes. Matt Lafleur doesn't care. Look
at how they coach Jordan Love. I mean, this offense
is read and Watson and Dobbs their kids.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Jordan Love.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
But he's tied for passing touchdown lead in the NFL
at fifteen and he's missed two starts, and there's great
quarterback all over this sport. He's in a tough division.
But this this is what great looks like. I mean,
he may not be Mahomes great yet we don't have
to classify every player, but he is special.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
When the Giants let Saquon Barkley go to the Eagles,
we said, the worst part about this is Saquon's gonna
humiliate you twice a year and once at home and
in front of your bosses, it is a bad monday
in the Giants facility had more yards than the Giants
did in total. And you know, yes he got booed,
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but I mean, you got to be careful. There's there's
a reason there's the old term never never trade in division. Well,
you don't want to trade your best player to your
arch rival and division. And I guarantee you it is
walking on eggshells in the Giants facility today. Here's Saquon after.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I probably talked a little more today and I usually do.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
You know, I didn't help myself when I said earlier week,
I didn't think I was gonna get booed.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
But you know they're going for a reason. It's a
company at the end of the day.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Asato gis a.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Great player getting his congratulations where Colin was raw. You know,
a couple of weeks ago, I called Colorado the fake
id of college football. They have apparently turned twenty one.
They have a run game, defense is playing well. Crushed
a decent Arizona team thirty four to seven. Listen, Shadoor Sanders,
I think is the best quarterback in college football, especially
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after watching Texas and Georgia. They're one win from Bowl
eligible and they've you know, it felt like a lot
of hype the first couple of years, but they're won
in the football. They're playing defense, they have a pass rush,
and they have the best quarterback in college football.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
So shame on me. Colorado looks real. Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
My number one pick this year on my over under
bets was Denver. Vegas had him at five and a
half wins. I said, Sean Payton is just going to
get him to seven to eight. They beat the Saints Thursday.
Same defense as last year, I mean, same players, but
I think Peyton is squeezing every ounce of talent out
of this roster. He comes from the Bill Parcells tree,
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and that's what Bill did. He had a good eye
for personnel and the ability to get the most and
motivate players. Denver's not a great team and it's kind
of an okay roster, but they've got winning streaks and
they win the games they should. And they beat the
Jets in New York with a rookie quarterback. We were
right on that.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
One where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
The Clippers announced that Kawhi Leonard would not only miss
the opener into it Dome, he may miss big chumps
of the season. Steve Ballmer's obviously smarter than me. I
do not get doubling down on this. The face of
a franchise, if nothing else has to be reliable and
the winning has to be sustainable, I never know what
he's gonna play. I just don't understand this. Death taxes
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and Kawhi not being available are the three things here
I'm pretty used to, and they double down on it.
So over the next three years he's got a fifty
million dollar cap hit each of those seasons. I didn't
get it. Then I didn't get doubling down. He's not
really a leader.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
In the locker room. I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
And Steve Ballmer's a brilliant guy, but I just don't
get this Cohi thing.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
It's not who I would build around.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I would not let Paul George go, who may get
injured from time to time, but I know what I
get with Paul George, like he's gonna play if he's healthy.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
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Speaker 1 (08:30):
But first it is our herd hierarchy, a very confusing one.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Here we go heard hierarchy.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Time go the top ten NFL teams according to College
number ten.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Well, the Seahawks are getting healthier on the defensive front.
I had them upsetting Atlanta in Atlanta, and they look
the part. They have a top ten scoring offense when
Gino Smith is comfortable and Atlanta has no pass rush
with those receivers, he's danger number one passing offense in
the NFL. But they're like one of the worst run offenses,
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despite the fact they have Kenneth Walker, who I think
is a stud had a great catch this weekend. But
I think when they're healthy, I think they are pretty
tough out and they can beat almost anybody. Seahawks at ten,
number nine, I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Steelers. I mean it's the Russell Wilson Steelers. They look good.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I mean they had outscore the Jets twenty four to
nothing in the second half. I'm sorry, that's impressive. The
offense scored on all four of its drives in the
second half. Remember, Russell Wilson was not terrible. Last year
in Denver, the defense was he had a ninety eight
passer rating, twenty six touchdowns, eight picks and scrambled. I
don't know what to do. I'm not saying they're a
super Bowl team, but I'm sorry that when they play
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at home, Russell Wilson doesn't turn it over, can be
pretty good in the red zone, have a home run threat,
pickins A super Bowl winning coach, Najie Harris I'd liked
for years. I'm gonna put him at nine, number eight.
I think the Niners would beat him. Niners were all
beat up, but I think we have to context a lot. Yeah,
they look bad. It was the Chiefs. The Chiefs defense
looks off, makes a lot of people look bad. I mean,
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Baltimore looks amazing against everybody except you know, the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
So they're all beat up.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
But I will say they're bad in the red zone,
and it makes me believe Brock Purty is finally take
a deep breath, Finally, last twelve starts, he's six and six.
It's very obvious that not only Party but Kyle Shanahan
is very dependent on Christian McCaffrey, who they say is
coming back November tenth.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Number seven the Bills.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
So they have a losing record against winning teams, but
they they're the Mike Tyson. They can't beat Lennox Lewis
or Holy Fields in this Brian, but they can beat
the bad fighters, and that's Buffalo. I don't trust them
against Kansas City or Baltimore. I wouldn't trust them against
the detroit But they play downhill and I do think
Amari Cooper, who had a touchdown in his first game
of the Bills, I think he's a nice, solid, good
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route running mature, high IQ veteran target. I think he
makes him a better football team. And if they stay healthy.
It's James Cook, It's Kincaid, it's Dawson Knox, it's Josh Allen.
It's an all pro left tackle. It is a formidable offense.
I just don't trust them against the better teams. Number six,
the Commanders. Jayden Daniels is hurt. But folks, they've scored
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on sixty four percent of their drives. Well, what do
you want me to do? You keep telling me it's
just a mirage. I watched them play Baltimore. They look
like they could play. I went Baltimore in Washington. I
was a good football game. Their defense, I mean it's
I keep hearing about all the flaws, But if Jaden
Daniels is playing, this is top ten football team. I
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like the coach, I like the coordinator, I like the
new owner.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I don't know. I watch them play it. I think
they're for real. I have Washington at six. Number five,
Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
You know what I love about this is that watch
Matt Lafleur coach Jordan love you ever notice this.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
He doesn't care about his mistakes.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
He knows he's got Brett Fahr, but that kind of player,
he lets him go. They lead the NFL with eight
touchdown throws of ten yards plus down field. This is
a very dangerous team. I feel like they're Houston. They're
about a year away from winning a super Bowl. I
would not want to face Green Band in the playoffs,
especially if they're on a fast track. Get them out
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of the cold weather in January, get them to a
dome in Minnesota. No thank you, big playoffense taking the
ball away.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I think this team, this team's got super bowls in it.
I'm just not sure if it's this year. Number four
the Vikings. They just can't beat Detroit. Last two years,
they're row and two against Detroit. They're beating everybody else.
They've led by ten plus points in every game. I
think Sam Darnold, we all thought he's reckless. I don't
trust them, you know what. I watched that Detroit game
that throwt to Jordan Andison and Justin Jefferson. I don't.
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I think they're fine. The upcoming schedule, by the way,
looks pretty easy. Rams game Thursday's kind of tough because
teams that play the Lions the next week don't do well.
But I gotta tell you something, if this team ended
up in the NFC Championship, I would.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Not be shocked. Number three.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Well, I had Detroit as the second best team in
the league. I watched Baltimore last night. I think Detroit
goes to number three. They have more offensive touchdowns eighteen
than incomplations incompletions over the last four games. Jared Goff
is playing pass and catch. I mean it looks easy.
Jared Goff comfortable is really good. He's not gonna move around.
But Jared Goff in a pocket with a run game
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and a great left and right tackle is really a
tough out. Aiden Hutchinson's loss will obviously be a huge factor.
I still think they could make a move before the
trade deadline. This is a really good offense. A deep
threat running game, tight end, accurate quarterback, dominating offensive line,
clever play caller. This offense defense worries me. Offense is
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out standing. Number two the Ravens nine point four yards
of play last night. Lamar Jackson's insane. I love him
just everything about him. He leads the NFL in passer rating.
You know, for years and years when Lamar was doing
all his tricks, he didn't have any didn't have any
good receivers. He had Mark Andrews. Now they've got Zave Flowers.
Now they've got guys on the outside to help him,
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and Derreck Henry, who the Cowboys could have embraced. So
there's you know, it's I don't I think their past
defense terrifies me in a big game against like Kansas City,
and I think that's that's the liability. Here is the
back end, but the front end of the car looks
the part that team third and one, fourth and one,
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they should go for it. They should go for every
fourth down in short yardage. With Dereck Henry and Lamar
Jackson number two, the Ravens number one. Listen, they've made
a they've made a lot of money, beaten the Niners
and the Ravens and the Bills.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And that's what I say.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Kansas City is better than the rest of the league
by a larger gap than you think. They have owned
three teams that are a nightmare for everybody else, the Ravens,
the Niners, and sometimes the Bills. I mean, that's the difference.
That is the difference is their biggest rivals. You never
doubt I'm in a big spot. They get close, their
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rivals can lead, they can get in front, but latent games.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
And by the way, Andy Reid.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Is so ingenious, is so adaptable, and I think that's
become the big difference between like a Shanahan who has
a great system and a play card and Andy Reid,
who weeked to week. It's like he's flexing. So like, okay,
who's available this week? Oh that tight ends not available,
this deep threat's available. Okay, we'll do a new game plan.
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He didn't have a system. His system is winning and
outsmarting you.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
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Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, I think I think it's interesting, like when you're
the new guy in a building, you should not be
given motivational speeches. I think it takes time when you
walk into a building. It doesn't matter how good you are.
And I like Devonte Adams, but it's weird like he
was kind of a disgruntled, noisy player on a horrible franchise.
Go to a Jets team who's got Aaron Rodgers and
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Garrett Wilson and Quinn Williams and Sauce Gardner. Those are great,
great players. I couldn't walk into that room and think
I'm gonna I'm gonna be the one that's gonna talk.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
It just it seems like to me, it doesn't matter
if the Saints went on a losing streak with Sean
Payton and Drew Brees.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
If you're a new guy in the building, I.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Don't think you get to control of the locker room speeches.
That just feels weird to me, even if you're really talented.
I don't know, Drew Brees, thirteen Pro Bowls, Super Bowl,
twenty NFL seasons. So there are two things that aren't
really football, but they're fascinating to me. So I've never
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looked at I know you guys are pro athletes and performers,
but you're not singers, you're not actors. You're I mean
you are, But ninety percent of what you guys do
is weight room, is film room. It is hard, and
you go, you know, you perform. You don't perform for me,
you perform for your coach. I don't look at you guys.
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I know you can be entertainers, but that's not how
I look at football players or athletes. There's a distinction.
And so Jerry Jones has this practice facility, and there's
an article today and he goes, I think my players
are inspired having fans watch them work out, And I
think I would be so annoyed if I had people
staring at my show all the time working here. So
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you tell me, when you worked out film room facility,
would you want randos walking around? Would it be distracting?
He or is it just not matter?
Speaker 5 (17:37):
No, it would absolutely be a distraction.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Make you feel like an animal in the zoo, especially
when there's so much at stake. You know, to me,
the locker room and the practice field and everyone in
the facility is sacred and it's meant to be that.
This is where we come to work, this is where
we come to be professional, this is where we come
to master our so that we could go out on
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Sunday and win for this organization and win for this community.
And so having i mean even just having the media there, Honestly,
I'd rather not, you know, I just I just wanted
to be our team. Yeah right, those that are going
to be out there on Sunday, you know, putting it
on the line to help us win.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah. No, I it just it just it doesn't work
for me. So DeVante Adams goes to the Jets, d
Hop goes to Kansas City. Amari Cooper, I think it's
a pretty good fit, goes to Buffalo, you know. And
I think it's very hard in any business to say,
all right, Drew, you got to throw to this guy like, Okay,
we're not in camp like you know, you're you're in
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the install. You're trying to figure So what is realistic
for me to think if I insert Amari Cooper, how
fast can you get up to twelve targets and eight
catches or is that just unrealistic and fantasy football talk?
How long would it take you with a nuke, even
if the guys good? How long would it take you
to insert him into the offense and to just be
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up and running.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
I love this question with an experienced quarterback very quickly
because in most cases, you are very aware of these
guys and you are very very aware of their traits
and their skill set, Like you've watched them for years
and years, just as you've watched film and you've sat
there and watched what they've done. You've compared it to
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the guys on your team. You've probably stolen plays and
concepts based on watching them and incorporate them into your offense.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
So like, very quickly you can understand like.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
I would know, for example, like Devanta Adams, we're sitting
here watching if you just put Devanta Adams on my team,
we would be on the same page very quickly, because
I've watched this guy play. I've studied this guy. I
know that, like my receivers have studied this guy, so
like I know his movements, I know his body language,
I know when he's in anticipating the ball on fades
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or when he knows the back shoulders coming, he's preparing,
preparing his body to flip his hips and make that catch, right. Like,
there's just little things that I would recognize and man,
we would get on the same page so fast.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah, you know, you got inducted into the Saints Hall
of Fame last week, and you you I mean, there's
the obviously iconic picture of you and one of your
kids after the super Bowl. But it's really funny, is
you are I look at you as such a grinder
that I always wonder. Obviously there's emotional moments for you.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I don't see.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
You as a guy you have a Brady quality and
Mahomes and Lamar have this. I don't see you as
a big celebration guy. Maybe there's a point in your
life but you'll go back. But it's when you get
into the Hall of Fame. Were there times in your
career that you ever in a bye week said you
know what, it's Drew week. I'm gonna just I'm not
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watching film for four days because I just viewed you
as such a grinder. Do the awards now? What do
they mean to you? In the big picture of what
you've done.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Look, you appreciate it. I'm extremely grateful.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
I'm extremely grateful for the career that I was able
to have, for the circumstances that led me to New Orleans, which,
you know, never, never in my wildest dreams that I
think that that would occur.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
In fact, like New Orleans was not the most popular
place to be.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
You know, that decision was made, you know, and yet
what that journey was like and what we were able
to accomplish there was was unbelievable. And so you know,
every time I walk back in into the Superdome, into
that building, it's like the rush of emotion and the
memories from from what we were able to accomplish there,
and have my family be a part of it, in
the fan base, you know, everybody, you know, so many
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people in that stadium were part of a lot of
those moments. So yeah, I just it gives you a
chance to just be grateful, and that's that's a good feeling. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You know, I'm watching some of these young quarterbacks and
you can see them growing, Like Caleb Williams, his feet
are steadier, he's he's feels like he's a bit more
under control. Now maybe they've just refined simplified looks or
refined looks for him like and it could be that.
But when you, let's say you're to go to your
tenth year in the league, was there a point with
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you weren't necessarily improving You'd seen every defense. What do
you work on when you become Mahomes Breeze in your
ten big ben in year eight? What did you work on?
You'd seen every defense? What where did you get better?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
I'd say situational football?
Speaker 6 (22:44):
Like you just continue to master situation of football, which,
which to me is is what determines so many games.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
You know, it's how are you handling you know, the.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Last half of the first half, right, and then the
first part of the third quarter, and then preparing for
you know, that final drive of the game where you
anticipate that you're going to have to go down and
win the game. And oh, by the way, not only that,
but you're kind of working the clock a little bit
because if I'm staring across the sideline at a Tom
Brady or a Mahomes or an Aaron Rodgers or somebody else,
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I don't want to give them too much time. So
I can I can score too quick, right like, I
don't want to do that. So, man, you just you're
constantly trying to master situational football. I'll give you an
example so I'll never forget this. Twenty nineteen. So this
is my this is my nineteenth year in the NFL.
Twenty nineteen. We're doing a two minute drill in a
practice and I burn a time out with about like
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I don't know, twenty seconds left as we're just going
up against our defense. It's a two minute practice and
training camp. I burned my last time out. You know,
I was in control of the two minute calls. I
was in control of the timeouts. I burned my last
time out. And then the next play something happens, boo
bo we run out of time.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
We run out of time.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
And I was so mad at myself, and I went
back and I like analyze that moment in practice, and
I said, always always do whatever you can to leave
yourself a timeout at the end of the game so
that you're you have access to the whole field, because
when you don't have a timeout and you're inside of
twenty seconds, you don't necessarily have access to the whole field,
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right like you have to get the ball out of bounds,
you know, or you have to throw in completion, Like you.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Can't just run one. You can't throw a screen. You can't.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Right, you don't have the whole playbook or the whole
field at your disposal. If you have a timeout, you
do so.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Sure enough.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
The very first game of the twenty nineteen season, we
play Monday Night football against the Houston Texans.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Right, we go.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Down score at the end of the game to take
the lead. I think we've got the game one, Deshaun
Watson ironic. So it was like a sixty yard bomb,
and they score with thirty seven seconds left to go it.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
By one or two points, and we have one.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
Time out thirty seven seconds, and I in my mind say,
all right, I'm calling this play ten yard completion clock.
This play fifteen yard completion clock. Next play completion time out.
There's me two second stleft. We're going to kick the
game leinning field goal.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Sure enough. Ten.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
It was a twelve yard completion of Michael Thomas, get up, quick,
quick spike.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Next play like deep deep hook to Ted gin Jr.
Spike it.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
Next play boom ten yard cerl ten to Ted Gann.
We had six seconds left, by the way, six seconds boom,
that took four seconds, paying time out, two seconds, come out, kick.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
A fifty nine yard field goal. We win the game. Right, So, like, man,
you're always learning.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
And that's why I love these situational football moments in
practice where like coach will just throw out some crazy scenario, right,
and all of a sudden, you just have to think
on your feet.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
You've got to go out and man, maybe you fail.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
In practice and then you get and then you just
send you on this journey like I never want that
moment to happen again in the game. I'm going to
be ready for that. And sure enough it pays dividends.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, you know, you didn't throw a lot of picks,
but many of the great Nameth, Peyton, Manning, Mahomes by
the way, has Hill Uncork an ugly one. How do
you compartmentalize? And Mahomes does it really well, he just
forgets it. Andrew Luck was good at this.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Andrew.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
You know, Andrew could throw a bad pick. I remember Drew.
I remember watching him live at USC against Stanford. He
threw a pick six against USC at the Coliseum. It
was bad and he laughed. They showed it on the screen.
He came over, he was hitting his helmet. The next
drive he went ninety yards and you're like, man, how
do you forget that? Again? You didn't have a lot
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of bad picks, but kind of take me through like
a mahomes How. He just shuts it off, and it's
just like, all right, I would think that's so hard
to do.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
So, first off, I did throw a lot of picks
early in my career, and I'd say probably the last
you know, six to eight years, I got a lot
a lot better because at the end of the day,
what which you also learned as you become as a quarterback.
You become a master of probability. You understand when and
how to take chances. You understand matchups, you understand the
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guys that you're going against. You understand you just kind
of know, right, like when you can take that chance
or when you can't.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Right. But as far as just the short term memory, look,
that is.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
The key to playing the quarterback position, because there are
plenty of things that are outside of your control that
could affect your performance. And then there's times where, man,
you just make a bonehead move or a bonehead decision,
and it's like man, where did that come from?
Speaker 5 (27:27):
And you have to be able to put it behind you.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
There's a saying that I always think about in football
that it's you're only as good as your next performance.
So whether it was good or whether it was bad,
the only thing that matters is the next play, right,
the next opportunity. And I'd say the hardest part for
me is when you're in games and man, you just
feel like you're out of sync or out of rhythm,
you know, like it's just you're missing throws whether and
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a lot of times you can self correct, you know,
just based on kind of your knowledge of like.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Where you miss Okay, well, man, I missed high.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
Okay, I must have you know, I overstrowed right right,
or I drop my elbow right like.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
So there's there's things that you can kind of fix
on the run.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
But for the most part, I would just tell myself, like,
trust your instincts and go fast and and don't pass
up open guys right.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
And when I got to that point, then I was
a machine.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Drew Brees eligible for the Hall first ballot he'll get
in twenty twenty six. I'm gonna guess right now, I'm
gonna guess that you're in New Orleans right now?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Am I wrong?
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Nah? San Diego.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I was looking at your blinds and I thought those
look new violence.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Yeah, that's that's her reflection in the mirror here.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Yeah, we got we got the Roman shades here to
you know, I don't know anything. Block out the sun sometimes.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Great scene the Manzuellas Drew Brees. Yeah, you too, eligible
for the Hall in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
It is.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, it's I I always think that's a gift to
be able to compartmentalize stuff. I think politicians can be
good at it. Like you're constantly speaking. What if you
have a bad speech, play next speech? How do you
not get that speech into your head and just like okay,
I got to go deliver in front of twenty seven
hundred people and thirty five what if you just had
a terrible speech. I mean, you're all ad libin all
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this stuff. There is a value to compartmentalizing. Don't let
a team beat you twice or an interception get in
the way of the next pass. Keep that risk tolerance
high even after you throw a horrible, horrible pick. I
think there's a real skill to that. I think it's
you see sometimes quarterbacks like emotionally go downhill. Like you
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see the body language and it's like a second pick
in your Like I mean Brady through pick sixes and
Super bowls. I mean Justin Herbert has the ability. He's
another kid. He can throw a bad pick and it
just doesn't affect him. That's a skill to me.
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go, our and two. It is a Monday.
Matt Hasselbeck. In five minutes, he'll be great as Oah's
live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd wherever you may
be and however you may be listening. Thanks so much
for making us part of your day. Julian Edelman last
hour as well. Colin Wright conrang around the corner.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
It was a tough night. Jmac. It's a Jets fan.
Good news.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
The Yankees are in the World Series against the Dodgers.
Had both those TVs on last night. I got a
little Dodger W. Shocking Steeler W. It was the ease
in which the Steelers won in the second half. Didn't
don't expect that at all?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Did you watch the Lucky Chiefs? Certainly did you not?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Not? Yesterday was a lucky chief sir.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
That twelve.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Well I'm looking Patrick Bohods one hundred and fifty four
yards passing. Okay, he now has tied for the interception
league lead.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Okay, as many touchdown passes.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Daniel Jones, what's shocking?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
What's it saying about Brock Purty. You couldn't beat that guy?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Brock Party had a rough game, not a great game.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
When he by the way Deebo Samuel practices all week,
everything looks good. He played three plays in the game
and then has to leave sick, like between no Jennings,
no Debo, no cemac Brandon. I you pops his acl
it starts to make some excuses for one mister Purty.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Well you can do that, Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Colin right wrong in a Monday as allays, here we
go where Colin was right? Then?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I think Brock Purty is a good quarterback.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
But you're going to be judged ultimately on how do
you play against the best teams in high leverage situations
and when not everything is available to you? Yeah, guess
who was also missing receivers and a running back? Patrick Mahomes.
He now doesn't have a stacked deck. Brock Purtty doesn't.
He's twenty second in completion percentage. Got lectured during the
game by Kyle Shanahan and listen, that's why we said
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contextualized quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Who was their coordinator.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
It's a lot different getting you know, the keys to
a nice car was Shanahan and Trent Williams and Deebo
and Christian McCaffrey. But eventually, if you had to pay
rock pretty, you don't get all those toys.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Where Colin was raw ooy.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Georgia thump Texas, didn't they I mean, Georgia re established itself.
It looked like Texas was too busy feeling good about Texas.
Georgia had seven sacks, it felt like they could have
had seven more. Longhorns could not run the ball. They
felt like they kind of panicked at quarterback. They were
atrocious on third down. You know, listen, with a college
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football playoff, these two could probably meet down the road
in eight weeks or whatever it is. But in the end,
this was a program built on defense against the high
glamour program that wanted to tell you they were ready,
they were ready for the moment, and Texas was not
ready for the moment at all. Where Colin was right,
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my guy boringly elite Jared Goff twenty two to twenty
five against a very good Minnesota team, four games in
a row, passer rating at least one thirteen. And the
thing I love about him, there is no sizzle. It
is all stake and I know his TikTok videos aren't
as cool, but in the last four games it looks
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like pitch and catch.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
He is just in a zone.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
In fact, in his last four games, Detroit has more
touchdowns eighteen than Goff has incompletions.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Sixteen, where Colin was raw.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I have defended Lincoln Riley at every turn and he's
not going to get fired, but increasingly you were wondering
if he's the right fit. They lead in the fourth quarter,
in the second half in all these games, but they
lack the physicality and the toughness to put it away. Now,
some of this is they're very very young on offense.
But you know what, he took all for Bob stoops
in a very good program with inertia and momentum, and
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he had to rebuild this thing. And after a flashy
first year where they were probably better than they should
have been, it's all been downhill Maryland Minnesota. I'll give
you a loss to Penn State. That's a terrific program.
But I'll go back to this. They have one running
back they trust in the program it's usc and two
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tackles that can play after three years.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
That's not good enough. LinkedIn where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I'm a Jordan Love fan, and I know he makes
mistakes and he's more far than Aaron Rodgers. But the
joy he plays with the support he gets from his
coaches even after big mistakes. Matt Lafleur doesn't care. Look
at how they coach Jordan Love. I mean, this offense
is read and Watson and Dobbs their kids.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Jordan Love.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
But he's tied for passing touchdown lead in the NFL
at fifteen and he's missed two starts, and there's great
quarterback all over this sport. He's in a tough division.
But this this is what great looks like. I mean,
he may not be Mahomes great yet we don't have
to classify every player, but he is special.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
When the Giants let Saquon Barkley go to the Eagles,
we said, the worst part about this is Saquon's gonna
humiliate you twice a year and once at home and
in front of your bosses, it is a bad monday
in the Giants facility had more yards than the Giants
did in total. And you know, yes he got booed,
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but I mean, you got to be careful. There's there's
a reason there's the old term never never trade in division. Well,
you don't want to trade your best player to your
arch rival and division. And I guarantee you it is
walking on eggshells in the Giants facility today. Here's Saquon after.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I probably talked a little more today and I usually do.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
You know, I didn't help myself when I said earlier week,
I didn't think I was gonna get booed.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
But you know they're going for a reason. It's a
company at the end of the day.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Asato gis a.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Great player getting his congratulations where Colin was raw. You know,
a couple of weeks ago, I called Colorado the fake
id of college football. They have apparently turned twenty one.
They have a run game, defense is playing well. Crushed
a decent Arizona team thirty four to seven. Listen, Shadoor Sanders,
I think is the best quarterback in college football, especially
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after watching Texas and Georgia. They're one win from Bowl
eligible and they've you know, it felt like a lot
of hype the first couple of years, but they're won
in the football. They're playing defense, they have a pass rush,
and they have the best quarterback in college football.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
So shame on me. Colorado looks real. Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
My number one pick this year on my over under
bets was Denver. Vegas had him at five and a
half wins. I said, Sean Payton is just going to
get him to seven to eight. They beat the Saints Thursday.
Same defense as last year, I mean, same players, but
I think Peyton is squeezing every ounce of talent out
of this roster. He comes from the Bill Parcells tree,
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and that's what Bill did. He had a good eye
for personnel and the ability to get the most and
motivate players. Denver's not a great team and it's kind
of an okay roster, but they've got winning streaks and
they win the games they should. And they beat the
Jets in New York with a rookie quarterback. We were
right on that.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
One where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
The Clippers announced that Kawhi Leonard would not only miss
the opener into it Dome, he may miss big chumps
of the season. Steve Ballmer's obviously smarter than me. I
do not get doubling down on this. The face of
a franchise, if nothing else has to be reliable and
the winning has to be sustainable, I never know what
he's gonna play. I just don't understand this. Death taxes
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and Kawhi not being available are the three things here
I'm pretty used to, and they double down on it.
So over the next three years he's got a fifty
million dollar cap hit each of those seasons. I didn't
get it. Then I didn't get doubling down. He's not
really a leader.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
In the locker room. I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
And Steve Ballmer's a brilliant guy, but I just don't
get this Cohi thing.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
It's not who I would build around.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I would not let Paul George go, who may get
injured from time to time, but I know what I
get with Paul George, like he's gonna play if he's healthy.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
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in five minutes.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
But first it is our herd hierarchy, a very confusing one.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Here we go heard hierarchy.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Time go the top ten NFL teams according to College
number ten.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Well, the Seahawks are getting healthier on the defensive front.
I had them upsetting Atlanta in Atlanta, and they look
the part. They have a top ten scoring offense when
Gino Smith is comfortable and Atlanta has no pass rush
with those receivers, he's danger number one passing offense in
the NFL. But they're like one of the worst run offenses,
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despite the fact they have Kenneth Walker, who I think
is a stud had a great catch this weekend. But
I think when they're healthy, I think they are pretty
tough out and they can beat almost anybody. Seahawks at ten,
number nine, I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Steelers. I mean it's the Russell Wilson Steelers. They look good.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I mean they had outscore the Jets twenty four to
nothing in the second half. I'm sorry, that's impressive. The
offense scored on all four of its drives in the
second half. Remember, Russell Wilson was not terrible. Last year
in Denver, the defense was he had a ninety eight
passer rating, twenty six touchdowns, eight picks and scrambled. I
don't know what to do. I'm not saying they're a
super Bowl team, but I'm sorry that when they play
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at home, Russell Wilson doesn't turn it over, can be
pretty good in the red zone, have a home run threat,
pickins A super Bowl winning coach, Najie Harris I'd liked
for years. I'm gonna put him at nine, number eight.
I think the Niners would beat him. Niners were all
beat up, but I think we have to context a lot. Yeah,
they look bad. It was the Chiefs. The Chiefs defense
looks off, makes a lot of people look bad. I mean,
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Baltimore looks amazing against everybody except you know, the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
So they're all beat up.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
But I will say they're bad in the red zone,
and it makes me believe Brock Purty is finally take
a deep breath, Finally, last twelve starts, he's six and six.
It's very obvious that not only Party but Kyle Shanahan
is very dependent on Christian McCaffrey, who they say is
coming back November tenth.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Number seven the Bills.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
So they have a losing record against winning teams, but
they they're the Mike Tyson. They can't beat Lennox Lewis
or Holy Fields in this Brian, but they can beat
the bad fighters, and that's Buffalo. I don't trust them
against Kansas City or Baltimore. I wouldn't trust them against
the detroit But they play downhill and I do think
Amari Cooper, who had a touchdown in his first game
of the Bills, I think he's a nice, solid, good
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route running mature, high IQ veteran target. I think he
makes him a better football team. And if they stay healthy.
It's James Cook, It's Kincaid, it's Dawson Knox, it's Josh Allen.
It's an all pro left tackle. It is a formidable offense.
I just don't trust them against the better teams. Number six,
the Commanders. Jayden Daniels is hurt. But folks, they've scored
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on sixty four percent of their drives. Well, what do
you want me to do? You keep telling me it's
just a mirage. I watched them play Baltimore. They look
like they could play. I went Baltimore in Washington. I
was a good football game. Their defense, I mean it's
I keep hearing about all the flaws, But if Jaden
Daniels is playing, this is top ten football team. I
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like the coach, I like the coordinator, I like the
new owner.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I don't know. I watch them play it. I think
they're for real. I have Washington at six. Number five,
Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
You know what I love about this is that watch
Matt Lafleur coach Jordan love you ever notice this.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
He doesn't care about his mistakes.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
He knows he's got Brett Fahr, but that kind of player,
he lets him go. They lead the NFL with eight
touchdown throws of ten yards plus down field. This is
a very dangerous team. I feel like they're Houston. They're
about a year away from winning a super Bowl. I
would not want to face Green Band in the playoffs,
especially if they're on a fast track. Get them out
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of the cold weather in January, get them to a
dome in Minnesota. No thank you, big playoffense taking the
ball away.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I think this team, this team's got super bowls in it.
I'm just not sure if it's this year. Number four
the Vikings. They just can't beat Detroit. Last two years,
they're row and two against Detroit. They're beating everybody else.
They've led by ten plus points in every game. I
think Sam Darnold, we all thought he's reckless. I don't
trust them, you know what. I watched that Detroit game
that throwt to Jordan Andison and Justin Jefferson. I don't.
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I think they're fine. The upcoming schedule, by the way,
looks pretty easy. Rams game Thursday's kind of tough because
teams that play the Lions the next week don't do well.
But I gotta tell you something, if this team ended
up in the NFC Championship, I would.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Not be shocked. Number three.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Well, I had Detroit as the second best team in
the league. I watched Baltimore last night. I think Detroit
goes to number three. They have more offensive touchdowns eighteen
than incomplations incompletions over the last four games. Jared Goff
is playing pass and catch. I mean it looks easy.
Jared Goff comfortable is really good. He's not gonna move around.
But Jared Goff in a pocket with a run game
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and a great left and right tackle is really a
tough out. Aiden Hutchinson's loss will obviously be a huge factor.
I still think they could make a move before the
trade deadline. This is a really good offense. A deep
threat running game, tight end, accurate quarterback, dominating offensive line,
clever play caller. This offense defense worries me. Offense is
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out standing. Number two the Ravens nine point four yards
of play last night. Lamar Jackson's insane. I love him
just everything about him. He leads the NFL in passer rating.
You know, for years and years when Lamar was doing
all his tricks, he didn't have any didn't have any
good receivers. He had Mark Andrews. Now they've got Zave Flowers.
Now they've got guys on the outside to help him,
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and Derreck Henry, who the Cowboys could have embraced. So
there's you know, it's I don't I think their past
defense terrifies me in a big game against like Kansas City,
and I think that's that's the liability. Here is the
back end, but the front end of the car looks
the part that team third and one, fourth and one,
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they should go for it. They should go for every
fourth down in short yardage. With Dereck Henry and Lamar
Jackson number two, the Ravens number one. Listen, they've made
a they've made a lot of money, beaten the Niners
and the Ravens and the Bills.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And that's what I say.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Kansas City is better than the rest of the league
by a larger gap than you think. They have owned
three teams that are a nightmare for everybody else, the Ravens,
the Niners, and sometimes the Bills. I mean, that's the difference.
That is the difference is their biggest rivals. You never
doubt I'm in a big spot. They get close, their
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rivals can lead, they can get in front, but latent games.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
And by the way, Andy Reid.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Is so ingenious, is so adaptable, and I think that's
become the big difference between like a Shanahan who has
a great system and a play card and Andy Reid,
who weeked to week. It's like he's flexing. So like, okay,
who's available this week? Oh that tight ends not available,
this deep threat's available. Okay, we'll do a new game plan.
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He didn't have a system. His system is winning and
outsmarting you.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
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Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, I think I think it's interesting, like when you're
the new guy in a building, you should not be
given motivational speeches. I think it takes time when you
walk into a building. It doesn't matter how good you are.
And I like Devonte Adams, but it's weird like he
was kind of a disgruntled, noisy player on a horrible franchise.
Go to a Jets team who's got Aaron Rodgers and
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Garrett Wilson and Quinn Williams and Sauce Gardner. Those are great,
great players. I couldn't walk into that room and think
I'm gonna I'm gonna be the one that's gonna talk.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
It just it seems like to me, it doesn't matter
if the Saints went on a losing streak with Sean
Payton and Drew Brees.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
If you're a new guy in the building, I.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Don't think you get to control of the locker room speeches.
That just feels weird to me, even if you're really talented.
I don't know, Drew Brees, thirteen Pro Bowls, Super Bowl,
twenty NFL seasons. So there are two things that aren't
really football, but they're fascinating to me. So I've never
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looked at I know you guys are pro athletes and performers,
but you're not singers, you're not actors. You're I mean
you are, But ninety percent of what you guys do
is weight room, is film room. It is hard, and
you go, you know, you perform. You don't perform for me,
you perform for your coach. I don't look at you guys.
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I know you can be entertainers, but that's not how
I look at football players or athletes. There's a distinction.
And so Jerry Jones has this practice facility, and there's
an article today and he goes, I think my players
are inspired having fans watch them work out, And I
think I would be so annoyed if I had people
staring at my show all the time working here. So
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you tell me, when you worked out film room facility,
would you want randos walking around? Would it be distracting?
He or is it just not matter?
Speaker 5 (17:37):
No, it would absolutely be a distraction.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Make you feel like an animal in the zoo, especially
when there's so much at stake. You know, to me,
the locker room and the practice field and everyone in
the facility is sacred and it's meant to be that.
This is where we come to work, this is where
we come to be professional, this is where we come
to master our so that we could go out on
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Sunday and win for this organization and win for this community.
And so having i mean even just having the media there, Honestly,
I'd rather not, you know, I just I just wanted
to be our team. Yeah right, those that are going
to be out there on Sunday, you know, putting it
on the line to help us win.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah. No, I it just it just it doesn't work
for me. So DeVante Adams goes to the Jets, d
Hop goes to Kansas City. Amari Cooper, I think it's
a pretty good fit, goes to Buffalo, you know. And
I think it's very hard in any business to say,
all right, Drew, you got to throw to this guy like, Okay,
we're not in camp like you know, you're you're in
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the install. You're trying to figure So what is realistic
for me to think if I insert Amari Cooper, how
fast can you get up to twelve targets and eight
catches or is that just unrealistic and fantasy football talk?
How long would it take you with a nuke, even
if the guys good? How long would it take you
to insert him into the offense and to just be
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up and running.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
I love this question with an experienced quarterback very quickly
because in most cases, you are very aware of these
guys and you are very very aware of their traits
and their skill set, Like you've watched them for years
and years, just as you've watched film and you've sat
there and watched what they've done. You've compared it to
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the guys on your team. You've probably stolen plays and
concepts based on watching them and incorporate them into your offense.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
So like, very quickly you can understand like.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
I would know, for example, like Devanta Adams, we're sitting
here watching if you just put Devanta Adams on my team,
we would be on the same page very quickly, because
I've watched this guy play. I've studied this guy. I
know that, like my receivers have studied this guy, so
like I know his movements, I know his body language,
I know when he's in anticipating the ball on fades
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or when he knows the back shoulders coming, he's preparing,
preparing his body to flip his hips and make that catch, right. Like,
there's just little things that I would recognize and man,
we would get on the same page so fast.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah, you know, you got inducted into the Saints Hall
of Fame last week, and you you I mean, there's
the obviously iconic picture of you and one of your
kids after the super Bowl. But it's really funny, is
you are I look at you as such a grinder
that I always wonder. Obviously there's emotional moments for you.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I don't see.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
You as a guy you have a Brady quality and
Mahomes and Lamar have this. I don't see you as
a big celebration guy. Maybe there's a point in your
life but you'll go back. But it's when you get
into the Hall of Fame. Were there times in your
career that you ever in a bye week said you
know what, it's Drew week. I'm gonna just I'm not
(21:00):
watching film for four days because I just viewed you
as such a grinder. Do the awards now? What do
they mean to you? In the big picture of what
you've done.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Look, you appreciate it. I'm extremely grateful.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
I'm extremely grateful for the career that I was able
to have, for the circumstances that led me to New Orleans, which,
you know, never, never in my wildest dreams that I
think that that would occur.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
In fact, like New Orleans was not the most popular
place to be.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
You know, that decision was made, you know, and yet
what that journey was like and what we were able
to accomplish there was was unbelievable. And so you know,
every time I walk back in into the Superdome, into
that building, it's like the rush of emotion and the
memories from from what we were able to accomplish there,
and have my family be a part of it, in
the fan base, you know, everybody, you know, so many
(21:51):
people in that stadium were part of a lot of
those moments. So yeah, I just it gives you a
chance to just be grateful, and that's that's a good feeling. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You know, I'm watching some of these young quarterbacks and
you can see them growing, Like Caleb Williams, his feet
are steadier, he's he's feels like he's a bit more
under control. Now maybe they've just refined simplified looks or
refined looks for him like and it could be that.
But when you, let's say you're to go to your
tenth year in the league, was there a point with
(22:23):
you weren't necessarily improving You'd seen every defense. What do
you work on when you become Mahomes Breeze in your
ten big ben in year eight? What did you work on?
You'd seen every defense? What where did you get better?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
I'd say situational football?
Speaker 6 (22:44):
Like you just continue to master situation of football, which,
which to me is is what determines so many games.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
You know, it's how are you handling you know, the.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Last half of the first half, right, and then the
first part of the third quarter, and then preparing for
you know, that final drive of the game where you
anticipate that you're going to have to go down and
win the game. And oh, by the way, not only that,
but you're kind of working the clock a little bit
because if I'm staring across the sideline at a Tom
Brady or a Mahomes or an Aaron Rodgers or somebody else,
(23:15):
I don't want to give them too much time. So
I can I can score too quick, right like, I
don't want to do that. So, man, you just you're
constantly trying to master situational football. I'll give you an
example so I'll never forget this. Twenty nineteen. So this
is my this is my nineteenth year in the NFL.
Twenty nineteen. We're doing a two minute drill in a
practice and I burn a time out with about like
(23:38):
I don't know, twenty seconds left as we're just going
up against our defense. It's a two minute practice and
training camp. I burned my last time out. You know,
I was in control of the two minute calls. I
was in control of the timeouts. I burned my last
time out. And then the next play something happens, boo
bo we run out of time.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
We run out of time.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
And I was so mad at myself, and I went
back and I like analyze that moment in practice, and
I said, always always do whatever you can to leave
yourself a timeout at the end of the game so
that you're you have access to the whole field, because
when you don't have a timeout and you're inside of
twenty seconds, you don't necessarily have access to the whole field,
(24:19):
right like you have to get the ball out of bounds,
you know, or you have to throw in completion, Like you.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Can't just run one. You can't throw a screen. You can't.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Right, you don't have the whole playbook or the whole
field at your disposal. If you have a timeout, you
do so.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Sure enough.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
The very first game of the twenty nineteen season, we
play Monday Night football against the Houston Texans.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Right, we go.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Down score at the end of the game to take
the lead. I think we've got the game one, Deshaun
Watson ironic. So it was like a sixty yard bomb,
and they score with thirty seven seconds left to go it.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
By one or two points, and we have one.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
Time out thirty seven seconds, and I in my mind say,
all right, I'm calling this play ten yard completion clock.
This play fifteen yard completion clock. Next play completion time out.
There's me two second stleft. We're going to kick the
game leinning field goal.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Sure enough. Ten.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
It was a twelve yard completion of Michael Thomas, get up, quick,
quick spike.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Next play like deep deep hook to Ted gin Jr.
Spike it.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
Next play boom ten yard cerl ten to Ted Gann.
We had six seconds left, by the way, six seconds boom,
that took four seconds, paying time out, two seconds, come out, kick.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
A fifty nine yard field goal. We win the game. Right, So, like, man,
you're always learning.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
And that's why I love these situational football moments in
practice where like coach will just throw out some crazy scenario, right,
and all of a sudden, you just have to think
on your feet.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
You've got to go out and man, maybe you fail.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
In practice and then you get and then you just
send you on this journey like I never want that
moment to happen again in the game. I'm going to
be ready for that. And sure enough it pays dividends.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, you know, you didn't throw a lot of picks,
but many of the great Nameth, Peyton, Manning, Mahomes by
the way, has Hill Uncork an ugly one. How do
you compartmentalize? And Mahomes does it really well, he just
forgets it. Andrew Luck was good at this.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Andrew.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
You know, Andrew could throw a bad pick. I remember Drew.
I remember watching him live at USC against Stanford. He
threw a pick six against USC at the Coliseum. It
was bad and he laughed. They showed it on the screen.
He came over, he was hitting his helmet. The next
drive he went ninety yards and you're like, man, how
do you forget that? Again? You didn't have a lot
(26:31):
of bad picks, but kind of take me through like
a mahomes How. He just shuts it off, and it's
just like, all right, I would think that's so hard
to do.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
So, first off, I did throw a lot of picks
early in my career, and I'd say probably the last
you know, six to eight years, I got a lot
a lot better because at the end of the day,
what which you also learned as you become as a quarterback.
You become a master of probability. You understand when and
how to take chances. You understand matchups, you understand the
(27:05):
guys that you're going against. You understand you just kind
of know, right, like when you can take that chance
or when you can't.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Right. But as far as just the short term memory, look,
that is.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
The key to playing the quarterback position, because there are
plenty of things that are outside of your control that
could affect your performance. And then there's times where, man,
you just make a bonehead move or a bonehead decision,
and it's like man, where did that come from?
Speaker 5 (27:27):
And you have to be able to put it behind you.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
There's a saying that I always think about in football
that it's you're only as good as your next performance.
So whether it was good or whether it was bad,
the only thing that matters is the next play, right,
the next opportunity. And I'd say the hardest part for
me is when you're in games and man, you just
feel like you're out of sync or out of rhythm,
you know, like it's just you're missing throws whether and
(27:51):
a lot of times you can self correct, you know,
just based on kind of your knowledge of like.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Where you miss Okay, well, man, I missed high.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
Okay, I must have you know, I overstrowed right right,
or I drop my elbow right like.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
So there's there's things that you can kind of fix
on the run.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
But for the most part, I would just tell myself, like,
trust your instincts and go fast and and don't pass
up open guys right.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
And when I got to that point, then I was
a machine.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Drew Brees eligible for the Hall first ballot he'll get
in twenty twenty six. I'm gonna guess right now, I'm
gonna guess that you're in New Orleans right now?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Am I wrong?
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Nah? San Diego.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I was looking at your blinds and I thought those
look new violence.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Yeah, that's that's her reflection in the mirror here.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Yeah, we got we got the Roman shades here to
you know, I don't know anything. Block out the sun sometimes.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Great scene the Manzuellas Drew Brees. Yeah, you too, eligible
for the Hall in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
It is.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, it's I I always think that's a gift to
be able to compartmentalize stuff. I think politicians can be
good at it. Like you're constantly speaking. What if you
have a bad speech, play next speech? How do you
not get that speech into your head and just like okay,
I got to go deliver in front of twenty seven
hundred people and thirty five what if you just had
a terrible speech. I mean, you're all ad libin all
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this stuff. There is a value to compartmentalizing. Don't let
a team beat you twice or an interception get in
the way of the next pass. Keep that risk tolerance
high even after you throw a horrible, horrible pick. I
think there's a real skill to that. I think it's
you see sometimes quarterbacks like emotionally go downhill. Like you
(29:42):
see the body language and it's like a second pick
in your Like I mean Brady through pick sixes and
Super bowls. I mean Justin Herbert has the ability. He's
another kid. He can throw a bad pick and it
just doesn't affect him. That's a skill to me.
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