Best of the Week on The Herd

Colin Cowherd tells you where he was Right & where he was Wrong, gives out the Herd Hierarchy, Tom Brady joins the show, and his Blazin' 5 picks for the weekend!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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hour two. It's a Monday. The first hour flew by.
If you missed it, I said nice stuff about Brock Purty,
so you know we were taking swings here in the
Herd on a Monday. Matt Hasselbeck is around the corner.
Dion Dawkins Today, tonight's Bears Vikings. We're going to get

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into that last hour. I like Minnesota tonight without further ado.
We do it every week at this time. Colin right,
Colin wrong?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Where Colin was right?

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Well, the Kansas City Chiefs regression is clear. I had
said last week I'd take the Chargers. The O line issues,
the run game, where is it? The wide receiver corps
was thin going into the game. They couldn't get out
of their own way. Literally, they're the only winless team
in their division. I thought Mahomes was amazing. But when

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you watch the Ravens or the Packers or the Eagles roster,
it's thin. And I said, you can't keep winning every
one score game, even if you have Andy Reid and
Patrick Mahomes and Justin Herbert against Steve Spagnola did whatever
he wanted to with kind of a me mid.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Receiving corps where Colin was raw.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Listen, he's a statue at this point and got sacked
four times. But I thought Aaron Rodgers was really strong
in the opener. To his credit, he has said I
am here for leadership and distribution and elevating others, so
he knows what he is. Seven of nine in the
fourth quarter with a couple of touchdowns, and he took shots.
He took a shot Joe Burrow and him took shots

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this weekend of nine, two touchdowns. And again I don't
love Pittsburgh's offensive line. They don't they don't run the
ball consistently. So I thought Aaron on the road against
Aaron Glenn's defense, I thought it was impressive where Colin
was right. I said it out for the Hall of
Fame game, Detroit does not look right. You can't replace

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two elite coordinators with in house guys and think I'll
just be the same. It's not the same two point
one yards per carry. They're rebuilding the interior line. Ben
Johnson was the sharpest coordinator in the game for a
couple of years. You can't just go, well, we got
a guy in house that can replace him.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
You can't do that.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Their passing game coordinator left to the Jets, and Justin
Fields looked pretty good, So I think you can take
some things even in the preseason. The Lions will not
be as well coached a football team where Colin was robbed.
The Dallas Cowboys lost, but I thought Brian Schottenheimer had

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them buttoned up. I thought they were good situationally and
the first half clock management. They had very few penalties.
I thought they played even keel football with good emotion,
not wild emotion. Dak terrific. They found run lanes. They
were a drop pass by Ceedee Lamb from winning this
football game in Philadelphia. The clock management was strong, they

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didn't have penalties. I had my issues with Brian Schottenneimer.
There's no way you could come out of that game,
whether you love the Cowboys or hate him, and not
be impressed.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
I was wrong where Colin was right.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well, college football's bumpy for Bill Belichick. He won't let
the Patriots scout on scouts on the Carolina campus, which
doesn't make sense. You're only hurting the players. He just
keeps alienating himself from the NFL. Bill Bill's old school.
He's very provincial. It's about loyalty to Bill. And you know,
if you're not loyal to me, you're a bad guy.

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You're against us. That must be exhausting to have that personality.
But I said, coming into college, he's not a great
drafter of college kids. Why is he going to be
a great recruiter of high school kids? He watches even
less of that. So I was surprised they lost the
way they did, But I'm not surprised he's having struggles.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Where Colin was wrong.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
What a done by New England. Gino Smith was spinning
it the Mike Rabels offense and Josh McDaniels. It was cautious,
it was slow, it was deliberate. Now I will say,
with all the free agents and all the rookies playing,
they've got.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
A whole new cast on this roster.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
So they got so many new pieces and starters don't
play a lot in the preseason. I do think this
will be about as bad as they play. But Drake
may cautious, not a lot of juice. I was surprised,
how bad, how poor, how slow that looked.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Where Colin was right.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Well, Miami Dolphins were cooked. I said, two years yars ago,
Mike McDaniel's clever. It can be funny. I think he's
a great offensive mind. But as the leader of men now,
the Colts are better than people think. Colts have a
good roster, but you can't have that. You can have
Daniel Jones going seven for seven on drives. That defense

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did not come to play. After the game, there were
some concerning quotes from defensive players. Head coach is a CEO,
it's not just a play caller. I don't doubt Mike
McDaniel is a great play caller and will get a
great oc job. But I also don't love the roster.
When you watch those two teams play, Colts had way

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more good players and it wasn't particularly close. Where Colin
was right, I said, keep your eye on Tampa rookie
receiver in Mecca Abuka two touchdowns, great route runner, he
has a chance to be the rookie of the year.
Every scout, every executive in the league. I talked to
if I said who will surprise people in the first round,
it was the Ohio State receiver. He got overshadowed because

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Ohio State is wide receiver university and they have so
many amazing stars. This kid, you are looking at a
guy if he stays healthy. I mean he's a pro
route running hands, discipline, personality in Mecca Buca, I mean,
Baker Mayfield has himself today as a rookie Game one,

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a star. Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong, Well,
he engineered six playoff appearances with the Seahawks. Matt Hasselbeck
eighteen years is now joining US Live.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah, you could add my favorite part of this show
is where Colin was right and where Colin was wrong.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
I love I love when you double down when you
were right, and I kind of like when you admit
when you were wrong. It's fun.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
I enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Well, thank you, and I was wrong plenty. I'm going
to get Let's just get to last night. And I
said before when Baltimore wins, if I didn't see the game,
I would suspect Lamar played great, but when Buffalo wins
a wild game, I would suspect Josh Allen had to
be otherworldly because I think the Ravens have a better
roster and more routes to win. I think they're so

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dependent on Josh Allen. But as somebody who got a
team to a super Bowl, when you watch him doing
what he does, what how do you explain Josh Allen
if I'd never seen him play.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Awesome? I mean that game was incredible. Listen. I was
watching it last night.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
I'm like, I met, Wow, this is an impressive win
by Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
It's amazing.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
But then in the back of my head, I'm like,
this means that Josh Allen can just go cut it loose,
put a cape on, and just play Superman. And that's
really what he did. I mean, like it was just
it was absolutely incredible. And you know it's so boring
to say, like, oh, turnovers, third down, fourth down conversion,
but like that was the story.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Of the game.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if we see another epic
matchup against these two teams.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
And this is what I would say.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Like, you know, a lot of people were talking about
the fact that, well, this this might come down to
a home field advantage thing in the playoffs at some point.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
I think there's some guys that are just built different.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Josh Allen's built different, Lamar Jackson's built different. I could
honestly see someone like Lamar Jackson being like, nah, no,
I'd rather go beat them at their place. I'd rather
go back to Buffalo and do it. Yeah, And he's
just got that mindset. I didn't have that mindset. I
would to play playoff games at home, but Lamar I
could just He's there's something special about both these two guys.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
And that's why it was such a great game to watch.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
It was I said this, and this was not a
knock on Aaron, but I didn't think the story of
the game was Aaron. I thought the story of the
game was the Jets have been looking for their next
quarterback star for years, and I know it's week one
that was easily the best I've seen justin fields play.
And Matt, this is something you've taught me and others
is that it wasn't first read stuff. You'd watch his head.

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He would look left, he would look middle, he would
look right. Let it rip it and be a dart
like that was quarterback play. Also, you're going up against
Tomlin TJ. Watt like Pittsburgh plays defense. It was kind
of job Like. I was like, oh, is he gonna
be Baker and Gino and Sam? Like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
If you're the Jets.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
You wake up this morning, you got to feel pretty
good about that loss, don't you.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
I mean, you gotta be encouraged. I mean until the
night game that was the game of the week. That
was an incredible game, you.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Know, I said, I sort of felt like it was
like a high school reunion.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
You're trying to impress your old flame kind of a game.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Like the both quarterbacks were like, man, I got to
be my best. I got to show out my best
for you know, I'm the one that got away like that.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
That's what looked like for both quarterbacks. And I think
people rallied around those both.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Quarterbacks, and I just thought the identity of what both
teams are trying to be this year showed up.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
I thought justin Fields was I think he was good,
not great, but like I think he can be great.
I really do. And and you know, obviously he's a
great runner. But it's not about that.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
It's about it's about being a passer first and then
being a threat as a runner on the flip side.
Aaron Rodgers once was great with his seat and moving
around the pocket. That's no longer his game unless you
design it that way. So drop back pass and then
I go scramble, no gway, No okay, but play action

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pass and that designed roll out move the pocket. Aaron
Rodgers is as good as there's ever been with his eyes,
his arm, and his head.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
I thought that was really good for Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
I know it's a Monday, it's week one, but I
watched Detroit's offense and people, coordinators matter, they matter. I
mean you I remember Philadelphia lost two great coordinators, hired
two new guys, and like by week ten you're like
they're bad. I watched the Lions. I'm sorry, but Ben

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Johnson was missed, was he not?

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah? I mean he's a great coach.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
I think maybe one of the best, maybe the best
play caller.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
In the game for the last couple of years.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Just so creative, so confident, and so that's not a
knock on the new guys, but like it's gonna take
time to gel and there's a void there. You know,
you lose maybe your best offensive coach, you know, to
the Bears, and then you maybe lose one of your
other unsung hero offensive coaches to the Jets. That's not nothing,
and that happens. You see great coaches and great assistant coaches.

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That happens in any organization. I think too, like someone
leaves and you realize, oh, like, oh wow, that person
was a lot more valuable to who we were than
we realized. But like you said, it's week one and
they'll have a time to gell. But I think the
story of that game was just how how amazing the
Green Bay Packers looked they came to play.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
You know, it's interesting Micah only played about forty forty
five percent of the snaps And take me to your
experience in the NFL. There is something about adding a
great player to a team, and it just it felt
like the Packers' confidence, like their chest was out and
he played forty percent of the snaps. But I don't know,
it's almost like you go out drinking and you got

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one of the high school wrestlers behind you just in
case you get a little softy. I thought the Packers
played it was so much confidence defensively, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
It's like Kevin a great closer in baseball, Like, hey,
we got to close, you know, like if it's third
and long, we got it. You know, we're we're gonna
have a game changing play.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
We're gonna close the door. We're gonna we're gonna do it.
And I also think I told I told you on Friday.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
The unknown for an offense when you're growing up, when
you're going up again against a great pass rusher and
you don't know where he's gonna line up, You don't
know what down he's going to play on. You don't
know like our whole you know, before you drop any
pass plays, you drop your projection schemes, and a lot
of times you'll say, okay, we're going to slide the
line to him, Well what if he's not even on
the field. Now, what Like we're really going to slide

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a bunch of people to just some random dude. We
don't even know who he is, So like it's a
it's I actually, as a quarterback, I would rather know
where he's going to be and if he's gonna be
on the field every snap, that would be easier. So
I sort of like I don't know. I feel the
pain of Detroit. I mean, shoot, they were planning for
this game. My Comparson's not even on the team, and

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then all of a sudden he's on the team, and
how much is he even going to play?

Speaker 2 (12:55):
It was that that's not a great place to be
as an offense.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
I said, I have been a little underwhelmed in my
career with Brock Purty. I know he's talented, but I
think he's been a tad over hype because he's a
seventh round pick. I remember in college the knock on
him was he's small and his decision making, you know,
he lets it rip. And I thought yesterday Kittle, Trent Williams,
Jennings out o lines okay on the road Seattle. I

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was kind of blown away with him. I don't care
about the picks. I watched him yesterday carry a team
that's the most impressed I've ever been. I'm serious, I
was kind of I think that defense for Seattle is fast.
I thought party was great. Your thoughts, yeah, hey, I
can't stop smiling.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Finally I'm showing you the light with Brock Perdy, Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
I mean, even it wasn't one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
There were a lot of questions if he was even
in to play rock Perty's unfazed. I'm not sure if
he's ever lost in Seattle. I think it's really impressive
what he has done. He is otherworldly to me when
it comes to just like this cool calm collected when
the chaos is around. You know, in quarterbacks room, we
had this saying pretty much everywhere I was be comfortable,

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get comfortable, being uncomfortable, and like.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
That's what I see out of this guy. Listen. He
looks like a high school quarterback. I get it.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
But he can make all the throws. He's way more
mobile than people think. His teammates and coaches and general
manager absolutely love him.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
They think he's worth every penny.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
When I turn on the tape, I think he's really good.
I know people are looking for six five and a
half and all this other stuff and some big college,
but I think he's a really, really good player.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Okay, so listen. I do think a lot of the
trouble in Miami is they is the front office.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
I don't like their roster.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
I think they went to perimeter speed, didn't pay attention
to their offensive line. I think they're you know, they
move a lot and they're fun, but I don't I
don't want what's the meat in the sandwich for the
Dolphins or maybe the Colts and Daniel Jo are underrated.
That was embarrassing though, for a week one performance like
that that you don't see that a lot. I'll never

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say quit, but there wasn't a lot of juice. Who
do you credit? What do you make of the Dolphins
getting completely blown out at indeed?

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah, well, I you know, I've heard you mentioned and
I think it's a great point. You know, there's something
to be being a great play caller, but it's.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Not doesn't necessarily mean you're a great.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Head coach, you're a great culture seter leader, all that
kind of stuff. And quite honestly, going back to last year,
some of the things that I've seen on the sidelines,
some of the things people say in the locker room,
the Tyreek kill thing, it's it's bad ball like it's
I don't.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
I don't think it's a winning culture that way. I don't.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Now on the flip side, I think the Colts were
playing for something bigger than themselves. Jim Rsay passing away.
I've played for the Colts for three years. That is
a very family orientated kind of an organization, one heartbeat
kind of thing. It's started way back in the day
with Tony Dungee and those guys. But even when I
was an opponent, I remember when Chuck Plegano was going
through cancer, and as an opponent, I was looking over

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to the sidelines and looking at that organization and I
was saying, you know, there's something unique and special about
what they got going on there, top to bottom, and
it made me actually want to go sign with that organization.
I had respect for it. I think you still see
that Miami has been more fragmented than that. You know,
I'm not saying that's what they always were, but it's
a little bit more fragmented. And I do think that

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that shows up on the field. You either pull together
or pull apart in times of adversity. That to me
look like a team that did not pull together.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Finally, if I suggested to you that the Raiders are
going to be vying for the playoffs, J Mack and
I have talked about this. Gino with time to throw
in a run game is very effective in his career.
His play action numbers are excellent Crosby. I like Jacobe Myers, Brockbauers,

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Ashton Gent. I think Colton Miller in their old lines
better than average. I mean, they controlled that game. Gino
was a notch of Drake May.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
It's hard, Chip Kelly, Pete Carroll. I don't overreact, Matt.
But it was impressive, was it not.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
It's hard not.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
To overreact, but I mean it was a ten to
seven game at halftime they were losing to the Patriots,
and you know, aside from one fourth down conversion a
big play. You know, I don't know that they looked
that great, but sure, yeah, you play sixty minutes.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I was impressed.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
I'm impressed with Pete Carroll, the oldest head coach ever.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Maybe I don't know. He hates when I say that,
so I say it more. But he's impressive. He's really good.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Talked about culture and identity and how we talk in
the building and what we're gonna be.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Chip Kelly way underrated, Gino Smith underrated Max Crosby. Game
changer caused in interception with pressure. You know we mentioned
a closer before. That's why those pass rushers make that
much money. I don't know if they have enough firepower offensively,
but they might, you know, and knowing Pete Carroll like they're.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Gonna go get it.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
This is a game that meant a lot to them,
A lot of ties, Pete Carroll going back to New England.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Chip Kelly's from New Hampshire.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Tom Brady's kind of running football ops there.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
So we'll see.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
I think it's a long season, but this was a
game that meant a lot to a lot of people
in the Raiders organization.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
So huge win, A huge win on the road for
Las Vegas. Great stuff.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Matt Hasselbeck, What a fun weekend we had Bears Vikings tonight.
I don't know what I'm going to get in that
one matters.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
You know exactly what you're gonna get tonight, you know exactly.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
You get a whole lot of Brian Flores and it's
going to be impressive.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
We talked about that earlier.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
To keep your eye on Brian Flores and Caleb Williams
and that chest match. Good talking to you, Matt, as always, Okay,
see it all right? So yeah, I mean I like
Minnesota tonight. They have the better roster. I don't think
Home field in the NFL means more than maybe a point.
There were a lot of things I thought Michael Pennis
and cam Ward looked good. Bo Nick struggled, I've got

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some thoughts on that. I thought the Raiders. You know,
I grew up watching the Raiders on the West Coast
play those four o'clock games with Stabler and Eugene Upshaw
and I mean Fred Bulletnikoff and Cliff Branch and those
memories are so embedded for me as a kid. The
Raiders are remember when the Warriors before they got staph.

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I said this before. It's a great brand. It's just
been dormant or asleep for thirty years since Rick Berry.
I mean, you watched the Raiders yesterday. They got some dudes,
They got some dudes.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
They were fine. The Patriots looked inferior.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
You know, I'm gonna ask you about one guy we
haven't talked about, and that's Russell Wilson, because Colin there's
a lot of people talking about this New York Giants. See, Hey,
Daniel Jones sure looked awesome with the Colts. They scored
on every drive. Russell Wilson and a team that returned
ten of eleven starters, and they couldn't do anything against Washington,
which doesn't even have a great defense.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
I'll ask yourself this next week at half Giants trail
fourteen to nothing, you're gonna start losing the locker room
next week?

Speaker 2 (19:57):
What about Thursday at practice?

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Because Russ did not look comfortable doing it and Malik
Neighbors was kind of erupting on the sideline. Listen, man,
I know we like Dable, He's a sharp offensive mine.
But Colin, it's starting to look like it just keeps up.
He ain't last in the season. Oh no way, I
don't think so.

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Speaker 1 (21:11):
Here we go, Hour two. It is a Tuesday, we
are live. It's the herd wherever you may be and
however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part
of your day. A lot of choices out there, Nick Wright.
In five minutes, it was a wild Sunday night, Bill's Ravens,
A wild and unexpected Monday night where JJ McCarthy pivoted

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from terrified to terrific over the course of a quarter.
Very surprising, J Mack. But I thought this weekend told
us one thing. Coaching matters when you look at the
regression of the Lions, when you look at the improvement
in a quarter by JJ McCarthy. So, I mean we've
always known coaching matters. Coordinating matters almost as much, and

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sometimes with a quarterback even more.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, totally, here we go.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Heard hierarchy, our first in season. Heard hierarchy. Heard hierarchy.
Now go the top ten NFL teams according to college
number ten.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
I'm gonna put the Vikings in.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
I think they're going to look more like the fourth
quarter than the first three. With JJ McCarthy's growth and
confidence Listen Kevin O'Connell was head coach of the Year
in twenty twenty four. GM and Kevin got extensions flores,
in my opinion, the best defensive coordinator Listen. That start
on Monday was the first competitive football JJ McCarthy had

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played in six hundred days. It took a couple of
quarters to shake the rust off. Christian Darisaw, the great
left tackle, is coming back soon. I like their roster,
I like them organizationally. I think after Kansas City, there's
an argument it's the best coaching staff in the league.
I have the Vikings at ten. Number nine Tampa Bay, Yes,

(22:58):
Baker Mayfield. They've won seven of their last eight regular
season games, and remember going to a division rival Atlanta
is a tough ask. And they didn't have Tristan Wurf's
their best offensive lineman. They didn't have wide receiver Chris Godwin,
and e Booka is going to be a star as
a rookie. So Baker's now only got Mike Evans. Now

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he's got a sensational rookie again. I think as long
as you have Baker and Todd Bowles, the compliment of
a confident, high end quarterback and an excellent defensive mind
in a pretty weak division, I have the Bucks in
my top ten. Here at nine, number eight, the Commanders
didn't score a lot, but four hundred and thirty two
yards of offense. Debo Samuel we said he's a great

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chess piece, was used efficiently led the team in receiving
yards in his debut. We know Terry mclaurin's going to
get better week after week. And no defense allowed fewer
points in week one. They spend some money on it.
The Giants, there were no crevices to run between the tackles.
They were five and one in games decided by three

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or less, so we know they can be good in
close games.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
I have the Commanders at eight, number seven. The Chiefs.
Then it gets real tight. Listen.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
They were zero for seven on third down in the
first half against the Chargers. They had a bad first quarter.
The receiving room right now, Worthies hurt, Rashi Rit's out
for six games. They're still reworking the offensive line. I
think they'll be fine. I think they're a playoff team,
but they're gonna we said going into it. Okay, they'd
won seventeen straight one score games. If they could go
eight and three this year in one score games, it

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would be phenomenal. But they're a home dog against the
Eagles and should be so they're gonna be fine. They
got to get the receiving room right. They looked a
little out of sorts early, but after the first quarter
they were fine. Chiefs at seven number six and Chargers
at six. I do think Justin Herbert Joe Allt played

(24:59):
left tackle, was really good, didn't allow any pressures.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
That was great news.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
And Jim Harbaugh is also six to zero week one,
so this was not an easy game for the Chiefs
to go to Brazil. I think the Chargers in seven
or eight weeks and the Chiefs in seven or eight
weeks if they met again, it's a very close coin
flip game. I think these are very even teams. Kansas
City's obviously dominated this division, but in the second half,
Justin Herbert one thing that's worrisome for the Chiefs. He

(25:25):
was thirteen to sixteen, and the Chiefs I mean Keenan
Allen thirty three, Why is he getting seven catches? I
thought there were too many Charger receivers. The weakness of
their team open. I have them at six, number five,
Rams at five. They got to keep Pokin Nakua healthy
and the O line worries me. But they've won six
straight regular season games when starters are actually playing, and

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they've held opponents under ten points in four straight games
when the starters are playing. I believe their defensive line
and their defense as a whole could be the best
in the league right now because a lot of these
good teams, like the Bills and the Ravens, they gave
up a lot of yards on the back end. They're young,
they were the least penalized team. Stafford was the highest

(26:11):
redded quarterback in Week one, and I think after Andy Reid,
there's a strong argument the best coach in the NFL
is Sean McVay.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
I have the Rams at five, number four. Ravens should
have won the game.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
If Derek Henry doesn't fumble their last three drives, they
have seventeen total yards. It's a little bit of a problem.
Zave Flowers, I thought was outstanding, had his best game
as a pro. I love everything about Baltimore outside of
the fact that they get these big leads and lose them.
And I do think some of this is when you
dominate a team for two and a half three quarters,

(26:43):
it's hard to convince pro athletes all gas, no breaks
here they come. It's not college football. Everybody can play
with everybody. Ravens still at four, number three Buffalo and
Notcha had at three. What concerns me about Buffalo the
back end of their defense. Their offense got five hundred yards.
Josh Allen sacked only once. I mean that Buffalo O line.

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We don't talk a lot about it. Few of sacks
allowed last year. They don't allow a lot of pressure,
and if they did, Josh Allen can evade it. Now
they're gonna face six straight teams with losing records, so
they're gonna go on a bit of a role here.
But that defense on the back end, it is a problem,
and that Sean McDermott got. I mean, Derek Henry broke
into the secondary and was running away from secondary members

(27:27):
who were smaller and should be faster. So they're gonna
lose some games they should win because the back end
of that defense. I have him at three, number two
Philadelphia seventeen and one since Week five last season. And
I know you're saying, how can they how can they
be at two? Listen Dallas showed they're a little vulnerable now.
Jalen Carter will come back. I don't think he's gonna

(27:47):
get suspended. I could be wrong if that just came out.
AJ Brown worries me only one target. I sense a
little drama, hyper aggressive GM. Howie Roseman made another move today.
Trade since the start of August. But I have them too,
and number one is number one. I thought the most
complete team I saw was Green Bay. Jeff Haffley is

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a stud as defensive coordinator. Micah only played forty forty
five percent of the snaps, already has an impact. I
don't see the weakness. Does this team ever miss on
tight end and wide receiver and quarterback? Draft picks ever?
Everybody can play. And for the record, Jordan Love, you
may want to look this up. Jordan Love's last eight

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regular season games eleven touchdowns, no picks, and a one
h nine passer rating. Coaching elite protection, elite run game,
elite quarterback, playing elite wide receiver, tight end talent good
in getting better and Micah Parsons opens up lanes and
space for everybody else. I said, I have a right

(28:53):
to overreact. In Week one, Packers blew me away. I
haven't seen them play that kind of aggressive defense. That
was Kansas City, that was Philadelphia defense. They were playing
with their chest out there you go, j.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
Mac am I allowed to take ask where the Jets
are because they were so good.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
I have Seattle at eleven, the same Seattle that lost
to the Niners.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Jarnold doesn't bump into alignment. They beat San Francisco San
Francisco twelve. But remember Seattle is healthier going forward. I
have to consider everything. Rock Purty may not play in one.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Where the Chiefs there on reputation. Let's be real. No,
they did not look good. Mahomes looked unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
That's it one guy. They also have the best staff
in the league.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Miss Maagnola did not look good. I mean he got
carved up by Herbert on that final drive. You should
run it when Nickson next.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
To boys, he is joining us right now, live nick Ry.
First things first, I thought I was very complimentary of
Kansas City. I think if they played the Chargers again.
It's a coin flip. Although I worry about Worthy's health.
But your takeaway in the top ten.

Speaker 7 (29:59):
Uh, yes, a few things. How close for the Jags?
Travis Hunter, the truber looked good. They looked like a
better operation. How close for the Jags? Can I see
a second week? I think Carolina and the US in
the league.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
That's fair, Okay, that's fair.

Speaker 7 (30:16):
I'm the I thought you might put the Steelers in.
I wouldn't I actually, And I also think the Raiders
are going to be good this year. But it also
might be that the Patriots are just terrible. So I
don't have major major issue with your list. I don't
even have, for the moment, major issue with where you
have the chiefs Now. I understand j Mack finds himself

(30:38):
in a tough spot because now, right now everyone thinks
the dynasty has fallen. So the niche she has carved
out of number one chief skeptic that gets to be
wrong every year. Jeezu's st it's a crowded corner. So
like now, he wants them outside of the top ten.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
I get it.

Speaker 7 (30:55):
Behind the Jets, who allowed thirty four points to a
forty four year old man.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
That's fine. I'm I'm really too concerned with that. I am.
I think Kansas City.

Speaker 7 (31:04):
Here's what I think is fair about Kansas City, Colin,
and tell me if you agree with me. I think
that it is fair to say the running game looked
more than shaky and they are going to have to
generate a pass rush outside of Chris Jones because the
secondary is a work in progress, and it led to

(31:25):
Justin Herbert having the best game of his life, and
it led to Chris Jones pressing at the end of
that game and cutting inside on the third and fourteen
because he knew he was the only one you could
get the pass rush broke contain Herbert runs the ball.
So those are fair criticisms. What to me is not fair,
like the flip side of those criticisms are because of

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who the quarterback is.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
If they had gotten.

Speaker 7 (31:53):
To stop in third and fourteen and Mahomes got the
ball back with ninety seconds left down six, I think
all of us would have been like, oh, yeah, he's
probably gonna go win. They are the opposite of the
Ravens in that regard as vulnerable as the three time
defending AFC champion Kansas City Chiefs are as they still
feel like they can win in any situation if they

(32:14):
get the.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Ball, and the Ravens feel.

Speaker 7 (32:17):
Like they can lose in any situation. I have one
other Chiefs related question before we move on, because you
said something last week, and by the way, congrats on
ten years. It's a legendary accomplishment. It's why you're you.
It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
I should have said that before this.

Speaker 7 (32:36):
But you said last week, in an attempt to minimize
the singular greatness of Patrick Mahomes, that he was dropped
into the greatest situation any quarterbacks ever been dropped into.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
And yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So my question is.

Speaker 7 (32:50):
Did that take expire as of last night? Because JJ
McCarthy just got dropped into a fourteen win team with
a great defense, with Justin Jefferson, with Kevin O'Connell. So
it was that take was that takes shelf life three days?
And now it's JJ McCarthy, who in year two is
the starner like Patrick, except the Vikings are a better
team than Chiefs were when they got Patrick.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
No, but it's not Andy Reid, And I love Kevin O'Connell,
but I think.

Speaker 7 (33:16):
Andy Reid wasn't Andy Reid before Patrick Well, Andy Reid
was not Andy Reid. He was a guy who couldn't
win in the playoff wore Patrick Well.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
You know that, But I also know Andy Reid in
coaching circle. I mean, the guy was unemployed for forty minutes.
Everybody in the league knew Andy Reid was great. So
here's my takeaway. You're absolutely right on JJ McCarthy. It
is a like brock Perty when he came in twenty
twenty two. There are situations that are ideal. You get Kyle,

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you get Kevin, you get Andy. Now you've got to
go prove you can do it. And Mahomes did what.
JJ McCarthy's not going to now rattle off multiple Super Bowls.
I don't believe, but let's talk about that game. Is
My takeaway is if you're a Viking fan, despite three
awful quarters, you believe this morning.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Well he hadn't played in six hundred days. We found
our guy.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
And despite the fact that Caleb was perfect on the
opening drive, the better quarterback for three quarters in Chicago
this morning, you're thinking, oh, this is justin fields. So
I mean, I'm telling you I have bear spans that
are like, I've seen this the last three years, and
you bailed on that guy.

Speaker 7 (34:24):
All right, So I think Justin Fields is a bridge
too far. Okay, However, and however, I am my marrow
deep faith that Caleb Williams will be a superstar in
this league has taken a hit in the last ninety
six hours. I will admit that you had Tyler Dunn

(34:48):
on your show. I read his piece on his website,
Golong TV Pay for Good Journalism America. It's like four
bucks a month. It's worth the read that was concerned
to me, Like those anecdotes individually are not a big deal.

(35:08):
In the totality are potentially a very big deal. And
then last night when you saw he really struggles with.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
The operation still.

Speaker 7 (35:20):
And the getting out of the huddle motioning guys a
little too late, like the pre snap stuff. He still
looks like a rookie. And this is your two. You
can paper over that, and I have because that play
he made on the sideline where he's running and then

(35:43):
fires an absolute laser. It's like, man, there aren't five
quarterbacks in the league who can make that totally prop.
But here is for me, the tiebreaker last night was
if it was like, Okay, he's making magic happen like that,
that's just.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
An unbelievable play.

Speaker 7 (36:00):
But he's also struggling with the pre snap stuff. You know,
I would tie would go to the.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Making magic happen.

Speaker 7 (36:06):
But he also missed three game changing layups on the
fourth down a potential touchdown, So I can't have you
be inaccurate on the easy stuff and shakey pre snap.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
The magic doesn't make up for all of that.

Speaker 7 (36:25):
So I still believe in Caleb Williams's long term but
I think it is going to be a much slower
process than I had hoped. And I also have to
have Can I say something about Ben Johnson please?

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Sure?

Speaker 7 (36:40):
It is not acceptable for I'm okay with older coaches
like that that I'm a better game manager than them.
I'm like, Okay, they know a stuff I don't know.
They're a different generation. Fine, whatever. The end of that game, Colin,
there's two two left and you have to save the

(37:01):
two minute warning, yep, and his plan was kick it
out in the back of the end zone, which of
course he wanted to do. Cairo Santos doesn't have the leg.
Here's what I would expect from Ben Johnson, young, smart,
innovative head coach to realize, wait a minute, my kicker
doesn't have the strongest leg. The new touchback rules say
if I do kick it out in the back of

(37:22):
the end zone, they get it on the thirty five. Anyway,
I need to tell my kicker forget the back of.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
The end zone.

Speaker 7 (37:28):
Fire that thing out of bounds. Everyone can do that.
It guarantees me the two minute warning and I only.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Lose five yards.

Speaker 7 (37:36):
I'm fine giving I wanted to give it to him
on the thirty five, but I ran the risk that
I lose the two minute warning and lose the game.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
I need you to, in.

Speaker 7 (37:44):
Real time realize what I realized for my couch drink
and wine. Have him kick it forty five degree angle
out of bounds. You keep the two minute warning, they
get the ball with two two left, and maybe Caleb
gets another shot. So he like that was disappoint because
I expected him to be cutting edge. I thought he
did a fine job, but the challenge was bad and

(38:06):
not telling Santos just kicked the ball out of bounds
was less than ideal.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
So the Ravens have gotten into a habit of losing
leads and here's I'm gonna throw a theory at you.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Okay, there is no comp for Lamar Jackson. Nobody else
plays like him, not only historically, but in the league now,
nobody plays like him. I mean, Mahomes is great, so
was Allen. They mostly sit in the pocket. And so
the first seven or eight possessions against Lamar Jackson, it's
Tyson in his prime. Nobody hit that hard. There was

(38:41):
no way to prepare for it. None of your sparring
partners could do that. But if you get to the
sixth round with Tyson, you had a shot to win.
And the thing with Baltimore is if you can stay
within reach as he gets into a seventh or eighth possession,
the offense, he's not as great from the pocket. Made
is like a Mahomes or well whoever name the quarterbacks,

(39:03):
and that they lose leads because people over eight or
nine possessions kind of figure out a little bit to
slow down the train and then they come roaring back
on a defense that's frankly the last two years not
the same as it was five years ago.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
And that's why they lose leads.

Speaker 7 (39:21):
Listen, I think that's a part of it. I think
hardball gets a little conservative at times.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
I think that's a part of it.

Speaker 7 (39:28):
I thought, Lamar, listen, you know I have been, you know,
not shy about Lamar Jackson criticism when I think he's
deserved it for big games of the playoffs. I thought
he played awesome Sunday night. My only Lamar criticism, and
it's a very small one, would be this. I when
he threw it short of the sticks on their last possession.

(39:53):
I assumed it was because he knew they were in
four down territory. But throw on third and nine? Throwing
it sick yards if you're not going forward on fourth.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
That's a mistake.

Speaker 7 (40:04):
Like you've got to either know you're going forward on
fourth or do everything you can pick up the first down.
But that's that's really just nitpicking. He was awesome. Josh
was a touch better. They you know, they got the
Bill's got a lucky break with a tipped pass that
turned into a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Henry fumbles those.

Speaker 7 (40:21):
Like individually, you can just say epic game Bills.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
You know, comeback is great.

Speaker 7 (40:28):
Holistically, Colin, here is what I know about the Baltimore
Ravens with the hardball Lamar combo they are the only
team across all of sports that I am beat over
the head by the media telling me how not only
good they.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Are, but great they are.

Speaker 7 (40:49):
And their historical profile is of an all time team
who always loses these games, like they're never on the
other side of one of these games. They're the only
great team that consistently loses games like this. Every other
great team in sports history.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Has something in common. They win.

Speaker 7 (41:10):
And I know the Ravens have a gaudy regular season record,
but they don't win in the playoffs. They blow big leads,
they don't play their best in the biggest spots. And
you can't put this one on Lamar. And so it's
just something about the team as a whole, where they
create ways to lose games, when the best teams create

(41:31):
find ways to win games.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
Yea.

Speaker 7 (41:33):
The flip side of that game is this, Colin. If
I'm a Bills fan, I'm thrilled I won, and I'm
thrilled I have a good path to the one seed
and the tiebreaker. And obviously Josh Allen's a superhero.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
I get all that.

Speaker 7 (41:46):
I do not feel better about my Super Bowl chances
if I'm either of those teams because of those defensive performances.
I'm looking at it like man oh Man. So we
have real secondary issues on both teams here that I
think and I understand. Listen, the Chiefs would be lucky
to just get the seventh seed this year, but I

(42:08):
don't think you want to walk into a playoff game
against Patrick Mahomes if the weakness of your team is
the secondary, I don't think you want that.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Listen, if you pay the quarterback a lot Kansas City,
Baltimore and Buffalo, the secondaries are bad for those two.
In the running game of the O line, you're kind
of a work in progress for Kansas. That's the reality
of paying the quarterback big money. Okay, So I said
you shouldn't be afraid to have a strong opinion. In
Week one, I thought green Bay looked unbelievable. I also

(42:36):
think if you are replacing the two best coordinators, the
best coordinator tandem in the league in Detroit, you don't
do it with in house candidates. I said this after
the Hall of Fame game, they are not going to
be a great team. Over under in Vegas went down
to eight and a half. I think I can say
Detroit is in big trouble.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
What say you?

Speaker 7 (42:56):
I agree, And it was just one moment on the paths.
I know the media there was a there was about
a ten day quick Fever dream where people had this
conversation Michael Parsons, How good is he?

Speaker 2 (43:10):
How did that answer? How they like Michael Parsons.

Speaker 7 (43:15):
You know, when you consider the fact that Jerry Jones
tells us he's bad against the run, does he even
help your team? Kenny Dan Campbell said before the game, Yeah,
you know, we're just happy Kenny Clark's gone, and because
and that's because Kenny Clark is an excellent player. Really
in bat Colin, Kenny Clark is such a good player

(43:37):
that if you take Kenny Clark and attach two first
round picks to him, you can get yourself Michael Parsons,
that's how good Kenny Clark is him. Let's do first
round picks get you that type of game wrecker. So
the Packers look unbelievable. The Lions are shaky, and it's
the coaching changes and Colin the interior of that offensive
line because you get Jared Golf office and all of

(44:01):
a sudden, he doesn't look like the Jared Golf we've
seen the last few years, and that would really concern
me if I'm Detroit significantly.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
So yeah, I don't think. Listen, every year there.

Speaker 7 (44:14):
Is a team that everyone expects to be great that
falls off. Last year was the Niners, the year before that,
it was the Bengals. This year there were five teams
that everyone thought it would be great. Philly, Detroit, Kansas City, Buffalo, Baltimore.
Now I know folks are praying for the downfall of
the Chiefs. Talk to me when yet it actually happens.
I think Detroit is the prime candidate for that one.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Nick Wright, as always, my friend, it's football season week
ones in the books and we'll talk soon.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Absolutely, and I meant it.

Speaker 7 (44:46):
I just real ten years doing this show, after doing
it for.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
A decade or more.

Speaker 7 (44:51):
At the other end, the other place, it's legendary, bro,
it is legendary. Congratulations sincerely, all.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Right, Nick, Right, first thing safe, Thank you very much
much to all our staff and the people who have
sent the you know, gratitude from me. Thank you for
all of you that make us part of your day.
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Speaker 2 (45:40):
Tom as always it great to see. How are things.

Speaker 8 (45:43):
Let's have call him NFL Season Week two, Let's go.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
You know, I was saying about JJ McCarthy, let's start.
You're a Michigan guy. Is that he's got a little
Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
I thought you were a guy like when I.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Think emotion players, Baker's a guy that when Baker gets
into a run, his chest puffs out, his velocity increases,
his accuracy increases, He wears his emotions on his sleeve.
I don't feel that with you. I didn't feel that.
I don't think Michael Pennix is that. But when I
watched JJ fourth quarter hits justin Jefferson on the.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Sideline, Tom, it was like I gave him a B
twelve shot, he puffed out three.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
And it's take me through that about how emotion affected
you positively or negative, Because I think JJ is an
emotional player.

Speaker 8 (46:35):
I absolutely love it when I see that type of emotion.
I think it brings you to kind of higher level
of focus. Stands in there, takes a hit, makes a
great throw, and that game is all about emotional being
at kind of a feverish and feverish pitch but also controlled.
And I could get there emotionally in a way that

(46:59):
probably didn't look like it.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
On my face.

Speaker 8 (47:01):
I think JJ just expresses that a little bit more.
Always think, like watch golf a lot, and I see
these golfers hit these holding ones and they like fit
their cap and they're like, and I'm like, man, i'd.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Be going crazy. And I love Ryder Cup style golfer
guys are fist bumping, and I just think.

Speaker 8 (47:21):
That emotion when you're electrified as a player, you play
with the most focused, the most anticipation, everything ends up
being at the highest sense of kind of the alertness.
So I love that aspect of his game. You know,
he's just got to keep that going for a long time.
That I believe is part of your conditioning and that

(47:44):
ability to elevate your teammates as well in those big moments.
And I love seeing that from a Michigan man.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
So we all know during your dynasty there were some
things we could bank on. Belichick's defensive coaching, your efficiency.
You guys always had a better than that average run game.
Lost in a lot of your success. The two winning
his teams the last twenty five years have been Green
Bay and your teams.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Why Wow?

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Why is that? And I would argue this offensive line play.
The Packers almost never have a bad old line, and
because of Dante Scarneckia.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
You didn't.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
So Mahomes now is in a different situation. He has
now been blown out twice in Super Bowls, once by
you because of deterioration of O line play. So their
tackles Tom in Week one grated incredibly poorly. So you
didn't have a lot of that deterioration. But go to

(48:38):
games in which I remember that Giant Super Bowl. The
first play of the game, I was with a friend
and the Giants rushed through and I said, was it?
Tom's in trouble? They lost all four battles up front
when the offensive line is deteriorating. Go to your career.
What does it do for a great quarterback?

Speaker 8 (48:58):
Well, I always say you control the line of scrimmage,
you control the game. So when you control both sides
of the line of scrimmage, you have a huge opportunity
for success. And it takes someone like Patrick Mahomes to
kind of have that Mahomes magic and pull the rabbit
out of his hat in order to keep his team
in the game. And he's had a lot of unique

(49:21):
offensive line combinations Patrick has. They've been trying to find
a left hackle at that position for a long time
in that offense, and.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
It's a challenge because it affects the.

Speaker 8 (49:33):
Way the quarterback feels like, can I really sit back
there and do I trust my teammates up front to
be able to protect me long enough so that I
could see down the field to read the coverage and
then make a very decisive, accurate throw. So he's got
to find a way to overcome that, and he has

(49:54):
in so many ways. Among Patrick had even though despite
his stats being down a little bit last year, I
still think he had an credible season. They won fifteen games,
and you see that throw on the run right there.
There's only a few guys that could make that throw.
Patrick's one of them, and he is so poised back there,
and I think they're actually with you know, thinking about

(50:16):
that offensive line with the rookie Simmons, with Sue Mattie
who's in there, is a second round pick from last year,
Create Humphrey there and Tray Smith at right guard there.
They're set up to have a pretty good offensive line
as they gel and grow together. So that would be
great for Patrick to feel like he has some confidence

(50:36):
to stand back there because the Super Bowl look so
much of that game ended up being can we block
the Eagles defensive front? And that Eagles defensive front played
their tail off that game, and really the Chiefs had
no chance when they were rushing that well. I remember
years ago, I've referenced this several times. You were talking
to Jay Glazer and it was I think it was

(50:57):
after a practice because everybody else was clear, and you
said you were still in New England.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
You said, you know, Jay, I've seen every coverage. You
can beat me, but you're not going to fool me.
I've seen everyone and you've been very vocal about the
pre snap operational side has deteriorated. Is there a quarterback
though right now in the league that you look at
pre snap and you're like, yeah, you can see it.

(51:24):
I can see he's operating at a different level. Is
there one or two guys and I would imagine they're
older that you look and you can tell from head movement,
you can tell from the directions that you can tell
pre snap or elite.

Speaker 8 (51:36):
Well, Matt Stafford just jumps to the top of my mind.
I'll tell you why. When you see someone do these
no look passes like he did last week. He knows
where the defense is going to be aligned, so he
knows okay, he sees a certain coverage, he knows the
high low combination that's going to work against that coverage,
So he stares at the load defender, draws the coverage

(51:57):
to the load defender, stares at the load defender, and
then throws it to the higher receiver in the combination.
So that is an elite level of play in his
ability to recognize defenses and then make those type of throws.
So he's the one. And again, he's a veteran quarterback.
He's played a lot of football. I think Patrick really

(52:18):
understands the games and combinations like that as well.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
But you're right, there's just not a lot.

Speaker 8 (52:24):
There's a lot more I would say physical development happening
at a younger age, but less I would say mental
emotional development from quarterbacks. And you know, I had a
chance to talk to Andy Reid about that, had a
chance to talk to Patrick Mahomes about that this week.
One of the they said, Look, Patrick flat out said,

(52:46):
I can't thank Alex Smith enough for everything that he
did for me. All I did was ask him questions
in the meeting room.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
My first year.

Speaker 8 (52:53):
And I look at my first year, that's all I did.
With Drew Bledsoe, Aaron Rodgers had three years to sit
behind Brett farre Eli Manning sat behind Kurt Warner. There's
a lot of guys, and I would say a lot
of successful players that weren't kind of thrown into the
fire because what happens is you can lose your confidence

(53:14):
so fast, because when when the real games are happening,
the blitzes are coming and you don't understand protection and
you don't understand coverage, and you start taking hits and
you start throwing interceptions, you begin to lose confidence that hey,
I don't even know how to play football. I don't
know how to go down and lead our team to
score points.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
I can't even make and complete a pass.

Speaker 8 (53:36):
So if you're sitting in the meeting room and learning,
I actually think that's the best way to learn, because
you can understand it on the board, you can understand
it on the video screen, you can go out to
a walkthrough, and then you can learn and practice by
making a lot of you know, good decisions, bad decisions
without necessarily being critique from the outside world.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
And lose it.

Speaker 8 (53:57):
You know, Look, you got PFF grade in you every week,
like you were just referencing there before I came on.
They're grading you, and now you go as a first
year quarterback you barely know, and now everyone's telling you suck,
and it takes a while.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
To regain your confidence.

Speaker 8 (54:10):
You lose your whole fan base, and it's it's really unfortunate,
but that's that's very much the state of the league.
And I think we've dumbed down the game in so
many ways to allow for a lesser caliber, developed player
to get in there and lead an organization.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
So, you know, I always had this theory that quarterbacking
should be easier now you have personal coaching seven on
seven camps. I mean, guys like you and Drew Bledsoe
and Troy Aikman have told me like I literally had like,
you know, eight high school games a year.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
You know, you're like I had forty starts, including high school.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Well, guys now have ten thousand snaps by the time
they're fourteen years old. So I've always said as a
sports commentator, I used to give guys three years. My
argument now is Thanksgiving year two, the GM, the coach,
the coordinator need to go upstairs in a room privately,
raise their hands yes or no. And I don't care

(55:09):
where you drafted him. I would give Caleb eleven more weeks.
Caleb Williams, let's go upstairs. Is that fair? I know
it sounds kind of harsh, but Thanksgiving year two. I
believe quarterbacks if they're if they the operations aren't there,
he's not the guy.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Is that too soon? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (55:30):
But I would argue this, you're assuming that everybody knows
how to develop a quarterback. You're assuming that you're going
into a program. I mean, I'm telling you this is
not There's a lot of people who have no idea
what they're doing when they're tasked with coaching a quarterback
or calling an offense. So are you saying, I mean,
just like we'd rank quarterbacks one to thirty two, do

(55:52):
you rank offensive coordinators one to thirty two? Do you
rank quarterback coaches one to thirty two? Well, what if
you had the thirty second ranked coordinator in someone's mind,
the thirty second ranked quarterback coach, how is he getting
a level of development that the guy who's first is getting.
When I got to the Patriots, I sat behind Drew

(56:13):
who was a franchise quarterback. Right in my second year.
It's training camp, and we had a very good quarterback
coach named Dick ray Vine.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
And God rest his soul.

Speaker 8 (56:24):
Unfortunately he passed away in training camp and of a
heart attack, and it was a very difficult loss for
our team. And the way that we found a way
to continue on that season is Bill Belichick became more
of a quarterback coach than we ever imagine him being.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
A quarterback coach.

Speaker 8 (56:46):
He was a defensive he was obviously a head coach,
very involved in defensive game playing, but he decided to
come in every week and talk to the quarterbacks about
coverage all right, guys, and he would do these big
write ups and they still have all because I kept
everything com This is cover one.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
This is how they play it. This is who we're
responsible for who.

Speaker 8 (57:06):
Okay, if we line up in a bunch formation, this
is how they're going to handle the bunch formation. This
is why they do that. This is the weakness of that,
why they do that. You shouldn't do this if this
is how they cover this. Okay, this is cover two.
This is how they cover this is they play two
variations that Cover two when they're in this variation. This
is what they're treund's up when they're in this various
This is what they're trund stop.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Okay, this is cover four.

Speaker 8 (57:27):
This is how this team uniquely plays couple four. We
shouldn't line up in this formation to try to run
this concept for one year. I had for actually more
years beyond that. That's how I developed and learned. Oh
defense calls a certain play. This is how we can
We can put them in this formation and they can
back the coverage off and I'll have a short thrown reason.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Oh great, I love that. Let's do that. Nobody is
getting that type of development.

Speaker 8 (57:52):
So I learned from an offensive standpoint, watching Drew and
having very good offensive coaches. Then I had a defensive coach,
the best one all time, teach me how to read defenses.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
You know.

Speaker 8 (58:03):
Then that would go out and meet with player personnel,
people you know who are very talented. Okay, we go
through the entire defensive lineup. Okay, these are all the
things that this defense does. This is what this player
does well. This player does well, this player does well.
That's development. You're giving people knowledge and information that you
could take to the field so that you could play

(58:26):
with confidence and anticipation, and that would free you up
to play a very aggressive style of football. So I'm saying,
what if you're a quarterback, then you go to a
system and they don't teach you coverage. They don't teach
you cover one, they don't teach you cover too, they
don't teach you cover four.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
They don't have personnel meetings.

Speaker 8 (58:42):
They give you an offensive game plan, and they go
all right, but here you go figure it out, and
after Thanksgiving your second year, they're going, man, this guy
just can't play anymore.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
He stinks.

Speaker 8 (58:52):
He you know, he can't recover. Like, dude, what would
did you teach him anything. Did you groom him? Did
you spend time after practice? Did you work on the
physical parts of his game? Did you work on his
throwing mechanics, did you work on his drops? Did you
work on the mental parts of the game. Did you
understand how to help him study film better? So all

(59:12):
these aspects physical part about football. The physical part is
one aspect I got was one hundred and ninety nine
pick in the draft because so many people were focused
on a physical skill. Tom Brady two a week couldn't
stand in the pockets, you know, is if he gets hit,
he's going to go down.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
You know, laughs are really strong arm.

Speaker 8 (59:31):
That was kind of But what I really understood the
mental emotional part. I could bring a consistent competitive, winning
attitude to the game every day, or to practice and
the games every single week. Mentally, I could absorb information
you could give me, just like Belichick did, pages of notes,
and I could process those things and then take them

(59:52):
to the field and play with the anticipation. So what
I lacked for maybe in a bit of physical development,
I far exceeded a lot of the people in mental
emotional development. And that's a hard thing to evaluate. But
I'd also say there's not many people who even know
what to do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
You know, it's not like they're CEOs of businesses. A
lot of times they're football coaches.

Speaker 8 (01:00:13):
With all due respect, they're not running large corporations, right,
you know, as as Bill Parcell said, you know, they're
pe coaches. A lot of times they get elevated to
you know, coaching positions.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
You know, it's it's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
I said, I thought Jaden Daniels last year, not because
he can move or he has a nice arm, it
was the best rookie quarterback I'd ever seen in terms
of poise.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Two minute drill that had to play now.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Mahomes was great, but he got to sit behind you know,
Alex Smith, who's the great, the great teacher, but I
mean drafted play now go. And I was thinking about
this and the thing that blew me away with him
and Kingsbury was saying this in camp, and I remember
being on their saying, Cliff slowed down. You're raising the
clips like I can't believe this kid, And I'm like, guys,

(01:01:03):
he's a rookie. Bring it down his poise and you
know what I think about this is crazy. You had
this at a very early age your first year starting
right replacing Drew?

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Is it parenting? Like?

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
I think it's innate that some kids have right Like,
And I watched Jayden Downels. I'm gonna look his parents up.
What did his parents do? He was so cool and calm.
I don't think you can teach that. I'm watching him
in week three there's a buck twenty on the clock,
no facial expression. I'm like, Okay, that's not that's from home.
That's from something.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
I believe.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
The one thing you can't teach nobody can teach it
is you are either calm in crisis or you're not that.
If you're anxious in a teeth clencher, it never goes away.
No matter how good you can, you can get explain
that you had it? Jaden had it? Did you learn it?

(01:01:57):
You have it when you were twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:02:00):
There's poise and composure in big moments that I do
think separates kind of elite performers. And I would say
it's it's probably a high sense of self confidence in
big situations.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
You see that with Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 8 (01:02:13):
I think he's probably one of my favorite ones in
the NFL right for a lot of reasons, but you
see his face in big moments and it just doesn't
seem it's a big moment for everybody else except him.
And the difference is he actually looks more focused and
more urgent and more.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Ready to go.

Speaker 8 (01:02:31):
And you know, you you, you know, you just he's
just so laser focused. And there's some guys that play
like that, and there's others that look a little bit phrenetic.
I mean tiger woods, like tiger woods look like that
in golf. The bigger the moment, you know, the more
determined he looked.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
That's probably the right word.

Speaker 8 (01:02:49):
And there's certain people who have I would say no
fear of failure, and that allows you, that frees you
up to go out and be your best because people
that fear of failure, well then that means they're trying
to control it. And when you feel that lack of
control or lack of confidence, well people can see it
on your face.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
A lot of times you could see it in the
eyes of the quarterback.

Speaker 8 (01:03:09):
So you know, Jaden is very impressive and everything that
he's done, certainly his last year was one of the
great rookie seasons of any young quarterback. And again, you know,
we had him last week. We had commanders Giant. I'm
always looking for Okay, that's great, what's the next step
in development?

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
And then the next step and the next step and
the next step, and you.

Speaker 8 (01:03:29):
Know, from the time that you start to the time
you finished, they're just continues. There needs to be an
upward trajectory every single year based on all the things
that you experience, and so a lot of things that
happened physically, mentally, emotionally over the course of a career
life on the field off the field that you need
to be able to grow with as you get a

(01:03:51):
little bit older and you continue to develop.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
All right, big game this weekend ratings are up, Tom,
you sounded great. You sounded comfortable, and congratulations and all
that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Hey, good start for everybody. You know what it is.
I got the best team in the world.

Speaker 8 (01:04:07):
I got the best partner, Kevin Burkhart next to me,
Aaron and Tom on the field, Zee and Russ down
down in the truck along with everybody else. And I
love my team at Fox. I know we're just going
to keep getting better. We're gonna stay humble, we're gonna
stay hungry, We're just going to keep working as hard
as we can to show up for one another and
try to provide the viewer with the best possible experience.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
And this week America's Game of the Week.

Speaker 8 (01:04:30):
Four five Sunday Eagles at chief couldn't get a better game?
Super Bowl rematch. I am fired up, and it's Thursday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Let's go, Tom Brady LFG, let's go. I'll leave the
FLT the office, right, let's go. All right, thanks buddy,
that's right, all right, tom Brady, he's all fired up.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
That was Tom Brady. You got a little Tom Brady
as if he was in the huddle. I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Chiefs are a home dog for the second time ever
with Patrick Mahomes as a starting quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
What would be the first? Was it when Brady went
there and beat him in the possibly Buffalo? Maybe the Buffalo?
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
When Buffalo they beat Buffalo the thirteen second game? Was
Buffalo favored in that one?

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
So Colin, I think I've been here. Is this year three,
I don't know whatever it is, three or four on
this show? I think that may be the single greatest interview.
I'm like taking notes, like he said some unbelievable stuff,
specifically about quarterbacks that you and I should be talking
about our air.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
I love that, Tom. I was amazing. I mean that,
this incredible stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
The only other instance it was, oh okay, it was
week six and twenty twenty two.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
It was not the playoff game.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
It was weeks bills a bad success against Kansas City,
just not in January. So it was week six they
beat him, and over the last four seasons, the Eagles
and the Chiefs are tied for the best record in
the NFL. I like Philadelphia by a touchdown or more.
I think Philadelphia. If you lined up twelve best player
in the game, I think Niner Eagles. Now I get
Andy Reid, I get Arrowhead, and I also get a

(01:06:05):
Chiefs team off a loss, so they're gonna be salty,
so that it's gonna be somewhat close. But a boy,
in terms of roster composition, if Xavier Worthy can play,
that helps.

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
There's a report now that Worthy may be at practice
today with his teammates. That's good, that's heally just emerging
right now. But I can't expect him to play. Come on,
it's a long game. You don't want him to play
in Week two? Come on, Tom Brady, nobody else like him,
even on our show.

Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
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Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Here we go our number two, Our one flies by.
This is the Herd. Urban Meyer last Hour. Dave Wonstat's
gonna sit next to me that we got some great stories.
You know Green Bay's defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley. Dave Wonstat
gave him his first job. Dave Wonstadt gave you first job.

(01:07:50):
So I sort of got about a third of the league.
And he's gonna join us on the Bears. He's gonna
join us on the Packers and the Miami Dolphins and
the Dallas Cowboys and a lot offerent topics. Today, I
will say this about Green Bay. You know, it was
really strange when a defensive when a head coach in
college quit and became a coordinator in the NFL. That

(01:08:13):
doesn't happen a lot, but that's what the green Bay
Packers did.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
The Lions.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
No, no, no, they they got very insular, very provincial.
We're gonna just we're just gonna hire guys in the
building to replace these two coordinators. Green Bay is like,
now we're gonna try something that nobody really does. We're
gonna go hire a college head coach who's a very
good coach, making a great living. We're gonna make him
a devensive coordinator. And you can't run on Green Bay.
And Micah Parsons is still between the first two games,

(01:08:39):
playing about fifty sixty percent.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Of the snaps.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
So you can tell when a fighter as confidence because
they're aggressive. You know Mike Tyson's early days. Look at
the aggressiveness green Bay's defense plays with it is an
attack style defense. Why they have so much confidence in
their ability and their speed to make up if they
get beat. So when you watch, when you watch a

(01:09:03):
defense that is hyper aggressive, that is a confident boxer.
That's somebody that leaves their chin open because they have
so much confidence in their ability to knock you out.
They're not worried about protecting themselves. When I'm watching Green
Bay on both sides, they are taking big swings down
the field. And here's the thing about Jordan Love. You know,
for years I said this about justin fields. He's tall,

(01:09:26):
he's a good kid, his teammates like him. He's got
a great arm, he's athletic. Why doesn't it work? Jordan
Love is all those things, but it's just better from
the pocket and getting better coaching. So Jordan Love in
terms of traits, that's what NFL people call it. Traits, size, arm, mobility, athleticism, toughness.

(01:09:46):
His traits are unbelievable. And you know, we just don't
naturally put him into the top ten. But I mean,
Craft is going to be a multiple time pro bowler.
You just wait, wait until Matthew Golden gets a few
games under his belt from TECHXS and Reid's healthy, and
Romeo Dobbs can be hit and miss on you know, dependability.

(01:10:07):
But why I'm watching Green Bay the last two weeks.
That is the best team in the league, and they're young,
and they're inexpensive at most positions. Mike and Jordan Lover
making money. They've got a guard making some money. They're
not paying a lot of guys big money. So I mean,
here's the thing. They let go of Kenny Clark. Green
Bay let go of Kenny Clark, who's an elite interior lineman,

(01:10:28):
and their defense looks better. So that tells you how
well they've drafted and developed. They let go of an
elite But I mean, you sed taw Kenny Clark in
Week one against Philadelphia make an imprint. Kenny Clark's a
really good player. He's thirty thirty one years old, so
he's probably at the end of his peak.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
He's a good player. Green Bay gave him up.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
They're not even playing Mica seventy percent of the snaps,
and they're a dominating defense against the two most efficient
offenses in the league. Last year, Detroit and Washington totally
shut him down, totally discombobulated. Jayden Daniels and the Detroit Lions.
So this is not a mirage. All right, here we go.
It is time off a winning week. I think it's

(01:11:08):
my first winning week on Blazing five and week one
in like forever, Here we.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Go, let's blaze it up, fired up. It's Collins, Blazon,
fuck Rams and Titans.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
I like the Titans and five and a half points.
This is the second lowest total on the board, so
it's got a you know, twenty three to twenty field
to it. I'm gonna take the five and a half points.
The Titans mistakes in Week one are easy to clean up.
They had a lot of drop passes in penalties, but
they got a real rush on bo Nicks. They forced

(01:11:40):
Inver into four turnovers, and the Rams offensive line two
of their top three offensive linemen are banged up. Rams
scored on their final drive of the first half and
their first drive of the second half otherwise didn't score,
so I think this is low scoring. I think the
Titans mistakes against an aggressive, very good defense understandable for

(01:12:01):
cam Ward's first game. I think I'm gonna take the Titans.
I think it's a twenty three to twenty game. I'll
take the Rams to win, but I'm absolutely taking the
five and a half points.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
With Tennessee Seahawks at Steelers, take the under forty and
a half.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Pittsburgh's got too much pride and too much talent to
look like they look in Week one. Defensively, they're gonna
play with their hair on fire. Defensively, Mike Tomlin had
to be humiliated by that. They have too many good players.
And Seattle's offense, it's not gonna be a high powered offense.
It's a run first offense. They don't have a number

(01:12:39):
one receiver, and under Mike McDonald, you know, eight of
the eighteen games, twenty points are fewer. So last week
Seattle game. That's what Seattle's gonna look like. They're gonna
keep teams in the twenty three to twenty range and
they're not gonna score a ton of points. That's not
what they are. They don't have the perimeter weapons. So
I think Sam donald struggled in this last cup. The

(01:13:00):
games come back down to Earth, take the under forty
and a half points. This feels very twenty seventeen, twenty
one seventeen. I like Seattle to win, but take the
under forty and a half points Broncos did Colts. I
like Denver minus two and a half. So listen. Eight

(01:13:22):
and two against teams that missed the playoffs last year,
and bo Nicks has been strangely good on the road
his last four road starts. His passer ratings one oh seven.
So I think Daniel Jones, let's not kid ourselves. His
last seventeen starts, He's four and thirteen. They've played a
Miami team that defensively quit. Don't overreact to Week one.

(01:13:44):
It was home Jim Rsey was being celebrated the late
great owner. It was a very emotional place. Denver's defense
is going to get Daniel Jones off the field very quickly.
I like the Broncos to win and cover twenty seven
to twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Eagles and Chiefs. I think it's.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
Close and low scoring, but I'm gonna take Philadelphia to
win and cover. Listen, they led thirty four to nothing
in the third quarter against Kansas City. They got more
good players. They've won seventeen of eighteen games, including the playoffs,
and if Jalen Hurt starts and finishes a game, they've
won fifteen straight. They're excellent on third down and they're
excellent in the red zone, and they're excellent on fourth down,

(01:14:27):
and that matters on the road in a close game.
They're gonna pick up those third and fourth downs. They're
gonna make plays in the red zone. I think Kansas
City comes out with incredible pride, plays over themselves and
makes it close. But the Chiefs are two and three
in their last five games. Zavy are worthy. If he
doesn't play, they don't have a one receiver, they don't

(01:14:50):
have a number two receiver, and Travis Kelsey they'll probably
box him in. I think it's really low scoring. I
think it's close, but I'm gonna take Eagles with a
late touchdown to win twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
To twenty Giant said Cowboys. I'm taking a prop bet.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
Take Ceedee Lamb over six and a half reception. Okay,
he had a miserable week one, three drops. I believe
Brian Schottenheimer to build trust with his young receiver. They're
gonna have a steady dose of Ceedee Lamb. Shottenheimer and

(01:15:29):
Dak are gonna say listen, we need you, brother. We're
gonna throw to you fifteen times. By the way he
has eaten against the Giants, he averaged seven point four
receptions a game since twenty twenty three. That's highest in
the league. And again, this is still not a great
running back room. It's still a pretty average tight end room.
And George Pickens does not separate like Ceedee Lamb. So

(01:15:52):
I think to prove that they trust Ceedee Lamb, Ceedee
Lamb is not gonna have three drops. He's played well
against the Giant. I'm going to take the over on
catches six and a half. I think Ceedee Lamb is
going to be a primary Dallas target. So take the
Titans and the points, the Broncos and Eagles to cover

(01:16:13):
the under on the Seahawks, Steelers, and Ceedee.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
Lamb to have a very very big game.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
You know, I saw a quote this morning from Detroit's
new offensive coordinator John Morton. He said, they play the
Bears Lions is a very very interesting early window game,
and he's John Morton says, we are not in panic mode. John,
have you seen who you're playing next week?

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
You're at Baltimore.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
Baltimore is not in a good mood, having lost to Buffalo,
having controlled the game. You can deny you're going to
be in panic mode, but you got Baltimore next week,
and then you've got at Joe Burrow, at Mahomes and
Baker Mayfield, and then Kevin O'Connell and then Jayden Daniels
on the road and at Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Detroit needs to win. Chicago would like to win.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
But Chicago's got the Cowboys coming up, the Raiders coming up,
and then a bye week. And I also think Detroit's
about winning games at this stage in their development. Chicago's
about getting Caleb Williams right. So you can deny it's
not panic mode. But I'm going to stay away from
this game. But if I had to take a side,

(01:17:33):
I do think urgency matters, and I think Detroit is
the side here. I think Detroit you can tell your
players we're not in panic mode. Everybody has a schedule
in that locker room at Baltimore. Just put a big
L on your little pocket schedule. Put a big L
on that one. I think Detroit's going to come out
and it's going to feel like it is a absolute

(01:17:56):
must win game. Teams can say it's must win Chicago,
it is for Detroit, or this thing's gonna derail fast.
You just watch the Packers. You're gonna be two games back.
You want to be two games back by four o'clock.
You know, you know Sunday zero and three seasons done.
You're not making the playoffs.