October 4, 2025 • 38 mins
Colin delivers his weekly segment: "Where Colin Was Right, Where Colin Was Wrong", owning up to his miss on the Dallas Cowboys, but standing firm on his take about San Francisco 49ers QB Brock Purdy
It's time for the highly anticipated Herd Hierarchy — Colin ranks his Top 10 NFL teams after Week 4, including the Kansas City Chiefs’ return to dominance
Colin gives some NFL apologies, some may surprise you
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That's one of my favorites.
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I'm gonna do it in about fifteen minutes. Oh maybe
thirty minutes. Right here we go.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Colin Wright, Colin wrong, plenty of both in a Monday
where Colin was right. I said last week with Baltimore,
I don't want to hear its injuries. I'm not sure
what they do well defensively. They weren't good on Monday
night and they're not good now. That's the best game
Patrick Mahomes has played in a long time. Look at
what Kansas City did seven yards of play. Kansas City's rebuilding,
their own line, has no run game, Travis Kelcey. You
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get about one big play a game, and they don't
have a number one receiver. I mean, Mahomes hasn't played
that well in so long. So it's not like Kansas
City doesn't have injuries. Rashie Rice isn't playing. This is
Worthy's first game back. They lost their best offensive linemen.
They have no real consistent rule game Baltimore. I said
it last week. I think it's time to panic. You
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may need more than just getting guys healthy on the defensive.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Side, where Colin was rogged.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Outside of the Bears game, Brian Schottenheimer has looked buttoned up.
I know the Cowboys are won two and one, but
they're getting the ball to the right people. I mean,
this is the best I've seen Dak play in eight years.
You got to get you gotta get Brian Schottenheimer some
credit for it. They didn't have Cede Lamb and they
mixed them. They mixed it up very well. Again, their
clock management was better than Green Bay. Some of that's
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just Dak's been around. He's a smart guy. But I
will say they're wildly entertaining to watch. They're in every game.
They should have beaten if not for a CD Lamb drop,
they should have beaten Philadelphia. I thought this team was
going to be absolutely potentially the second third worst team
in the league, and they're a They're a pretty fun
team to watch, and Dak has played out of his mind.
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Where Colin was right, Oh, brought pretty or Mac Jones?
You tell me there's a difference. Wasn't the knock on
brought pretty out of college?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
He was a bit.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Small and reckless. Well, so far this year, four tds
four picks. He's got more turnovers than total touchdowns. I
know the Niners had some drops, but they also had
a couple of guys make catches that could have been
potentially intercepted that they not made the catch, So he
did not play well. Again, he's banged up. I understand
that these are professional athletes. It's the NFL. Everybody's banged
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up by week three and four. I don't see the
massive gap. I think Perty's better than Mac Jones, but
I don't see the forty five million dollar.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Gap where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
That is the best game offensively I have seen the
Steelers play in maybe six years. Honestly, Aaron was tremendous.
The back shoulder throws, the tempo. I mean the Steelers
have had an offensive line issue in a run game
issue since Big Ben's second to last year. DK Metcalf
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and Aaron really connected. Steelers had six sacks and a
lot of that. The Vikings old lines all banged out.
But I don't want to hear about it. All I
know is when I watched that game, that was a
twenty twenty five offense, a number one receiver, a consistent
run game, good pass pro Aaron deserves credit. Hey they
have He is leading this offense and he deserves credit
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because if you're a Steeler fan, when's the last time
you saw a third down, a game plan, a run
game that consistent. And Minnesota's got real players. Brian Floor
is a great DC. Where Colin was right, Well, I've
said Matt Stafford maybe the best thrower of a football
in the world. He put on a clinic yesterday. I
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mean I have him in the Super Bowl bubble. He
and Pooka are arguably the best quarterback wide receiver combo
even too two Atwell, who was a bus they kept
around for a year, ended up having the game winner
McVeigh plus Stafford and that defense, this is a real team.
Indianapolis is no joke. They got they have a roster,
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but Stafford game winning drives just absolutely beautiful to watch.
He is the best pocket quarterback we've had in.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
A long time.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Where Colin was raw.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, I got a.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Little ahead of myself on USC first real challenge, got
pushed around by Illinois. The same Illinois team that had
one hundred and sixty total yards against Indiana had over
five hundred. Everybody's banging on Lincoln Riley because they scored
so quickly. Well, you don't want to get cute on
the road. They just looked lost. They got burned on
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this Philly special. They didn't consistently generate a pass rush.
I don't know what it is, but the longer D'Anton lynn,
a great d coordinator is in USC, the softer the
defense gets and I I think he's done a great
job with Jaden Miyob at the quarterback, but defensively the
back end is atrocious.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Sam Darnold is elite.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
He's the winningest quarterback in the league since the beginning
of last year. This year completing seventy percent of his
throws one hundred and six passer rating on what I like.
This team is Green Bay young offensively, This is an
incredibly young roster. Donald moves from Minnesota. They jam him in.
They go from Kevin O'Connell and Justin jeffersonto a bunch
of kids. He's had two game winning drives in four games.
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He is a great fit. For years and years, I said,
I watched Sam Darnold play. He won in high school
at USC, at Minnesota and Seattle. Who's winning with the
Panthers and the Jets. This guy can play where Colin
was right. Dante Moore. If I had a number one
pick in the draft, I would pick Dante Moore the
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quarterback for Oregon. This kid the poise, the stoicism, that
is a loud road environment. Oregon's a young team. He
is phenomenal. I said last week, I'm gonna take Oregon.
Dante is next level. Some of these throws. This kid
is really good. And all the quarterbacks we thought were
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gonna be great coming into the season Drew Aller kid
club Nick. Eh, that's the number one pick in the draft.
This this kid is if he wants to come out,
he may not, but this kid, this kid is really
good to go on the road to be his age
and he's just.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Not bothered at all.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I get if you're a thirty two year old NFL quarterback,
but that's intimidating. That is an intimidating place you on
the road in overtime and he's making throws off platform.
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Wow.
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Speaker 1 (08:16):
Well, here we go on a Tuesday. Let's roll it.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Heard hierarchy, Now no go. The top ten NFL teams
according to College Number.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Ten the Colts.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I love their offensive line and their skill offensively. They
had the game and lost it against the Rams. They
have the most efficient offense in the league, and they
don't make mistakes. You can't get the Daniel Jones do.
I think he's great? Nobody's playing like a b quarterback
with you know, decent arm moves. Well again, Jonathan Taylor.
This offensive line, I mean a Denver Broncos pass rush
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struggled to get to Daniel Jones. If you have an
offensive line this good and Jonathan Taylor, you're gonna make
great quarterbacks, sit and watch for long stretches. I have
the Colts at ten, number nine Denver Sean Payton as
a career five hundred record in September. Even with Drew
Brees and bow Knicks, it's ugly early. This roster is
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really good. They're gonna lead the NFL in sacks again.
Two good running backs, excellent O line, hard to get
to bow Knicks, who throws the ball down the field.
They take big swing. They got a lot of guys
who can run and catch a lot. Dobbins and Harvey
and MIM's and Franklin and Courtland Sutton. This is a
really deep offensive team that also leaves the league in sacks.
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Denver nine, number eight Detroit takeout Game one against green
Bay with the new coordinators. Jared Goff's completing seventy four
percent of his throws this year. Road graters up front,
excellent backfield. I mean, Jared Goff hasn't been sacked in
three games, so he may be better at home. He
may protection to be great. Well, he's getting it with
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a great run game. Defensively, I don't think they're great,
but they get after the quarterback. Only Denver gets to
the quarterback more. I have the Lions at eight, number seven.
It's hard to figure out what Tampa is. I mean,
they're three and one, they're in every game, but the
problem is they're in every game late. They don't put
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anybody away. And you know Baker can be reckless. He
is very good throwing the ball down the field. In fact,
he leads the NFL right now five tds no interceptions
on throws twenty plus. He's a risk taker, a Mecca
Bouka is a star. They got a lot of injuries
to deal with, But I just I like their spirit
and I'm gonna put Tampa at number seven, number six.
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This was my team that I thought was underrated. I
think they're gonna be a playoff team. Seattle second best
point differential in the league. They're a great road team.
They've won eight straight road games. I think that speaks
to their character and their talent. Sam Darnold again leads
the NFL in game winning drives and big pass plays
over the last two years and second in wins. Sam's
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always been elite in high school at usc At, Minnesota
and Seattle. Who wins with the Jets in Carolina. This
team may be too young to get to a super Bowl.
But opposing quarterbacks this year have a seventy six passer
rating against them.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
They're legit number five youngest team in the league. Green
Bay I like him. They scored on.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
All five drives in the second half in overtime against
the Cowboys. They're young, unlike Kansas City or Philadelphia. They
don't know yet how to put away inferior teams. But
Jordan Love this year eight tuddies, one pick and one
hundred and thirteen passer rating.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
He's fine. They're great on third down. It's just they're young.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Third straight season, youngest roster, and that's the value of
the playoffs for the great teams. They know how to
win games. They don't play well. Green Bay does yet.
Number four Kansas City I kept saying all week. Xavier
Worthy matters. He not only stretches the field, he gives
them some volumet wide receiver. Now you're going to have
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Rashi Rice in three weeks, Worthy, Juju Smith, Schuscher's a three.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Somebody else will be a four. Travis Kelty.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Now, they're not going to be a great run team
unless they make a move with the trade deadline, and
that worries me. But over the last three weeks they
have the number two scoring defense and they don't give
the ball away. That's why Buffalo is so dangerous, and
Philadelphia can be dangerous, and Kansas City is They don't
give you the ball. So I get a big time defense,
a great coach and quarterback, and they don't give you
a short field. Kansas City four number three. But I
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think the Rams, I'm not sure their weakness. Everything's good.
I mean, their offensive line isn't dominant. But Matt Stafford
highest credit passer in the league, Poka Nakua right now,
he's the best wide receiver in the league. I get
read you nine statsy league top ten in scoring defense.
I mean, it's what's amazing is how good their defense is.
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And they don't pay any of them. They've hit on
so many draft picks. They remind me of Kansas City's defense.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Two years ago.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
It was great and they weren't paying anybody but Chris Jones,
so coach, quarterback defense, lot of wisdom. I have him
at three, number two bills. The defense worries me and
could be their shortcoming. But like Kansas City, they don't
give the ball away. James Cook has taken off the
heavy lifting for Josh Allen. There are games he doesn't
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have to carry it. Highest rushing great in the league
is James Cook. One giveaway in nine games including the playoffs.
They actually lead the NFL right now in rushing, and
that's what we said for years. You can't ask Josh
to be Superman every week. He no longer is Buffalo
at two. Number one, listen, I mean they even do
a good job blocking kicks. They're uneven. I do think
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they have too many really bad halfs. First half against
the Rams, second half against the Bucks. But the roster
is stacked, and every time I doubt Jalen hurts, he
turns it on. So I think there's something about his
kind of personality and his toughness and his resilience. They're
the best two yard team in league history. They block kicked,
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it's just not a lot. They're very good situationally, so
for now, best roster that does a lot of things well.
Number one, Yes, Kansas that he made a big leap,
As our next guest will point to, I'm probably right
on that. I regretted doing it. I wanted to sneak
aim at seven to eight. But Nick Wright joins us
live and I want to start with this. I generally
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don't take eleven to four.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
Oh sorry, this says nice to see the Chiefs back
on the hard hierarchy. I was celebrating, Sorry, yeah, go ahead,
and you were saying eleven to four.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
I'm sorry, I.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Don't do it. But the truth is, you've got to
be honest about this. Is they just needed one legitimate,
big time perimeter threat. They did, and suddenly everybody else
looks good in all the underneaths wow. But the bigger
story is that I never buy into this. I've always
said this. You can go into slumps with golf so
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much downtime gets in your head, or baseball sitting around,
but in hockey, basketball, football, you gotta play. You don't
have time to get into a slump. Stuff doesn't get
into your head. And then I watched Lamar against Kansas City,
and I am convinced they are in his head right well, well.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
To a degree, yes, But there's a lot to unback here, Colin,
So let me take some time because you are I
even saw your tweets saying I tried to tell j
Mack about when Xavier Worthy came back and listen. I'm
all for you giving j Mack a hard time for
his chief skepticism, But I watched the Super Bowl Bubble
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on Friday's episode. You know who wasn't even in the
bubble for the bubble, the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And you knew zamyer Worthy was coming back.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
So you didn't even make it to October before you
had to admit your Chiefs pessimism was unfounded. And by
the way, where is the greatest coach quarterback combo in
Southern California?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Is free?
Speaker 6 (16:15):
The Los Angeles Chargers, Oh no, they're dealing with an
injury now they're all of a sudden not a top
ten team, but to the Ravens, which is I know
where you wanted to Gouys. Need to get that off
my chest. Listen, the Chiefs are in Lamar's head and
he doesn't perform well in big spots. It's just I
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don't need we do this same exact dance we in
the media every year with this player. He is transcendent
through a regular season. People say he's taken his game
to a new level.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
He wins or comes close to winning an MVP.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
He's the highest rated passer ever he's all of this,
then in a bit spot, he plays his worst game
of the year. Everyone for a moment is like, hmm,
kind of reminds me a bit of a guy who
used to play shooting guard in Houston that we all
thought was an all time great but tightened up in
big spots and couldn't get it done. And then we
forget and it goes all over again. In the last
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thirty games, Colin Lamar has two I'm sorry, three multi
turnover games in his last thirty the AFC title game
against the Chiefs, the Divisional round playoff game against Buffalo,
and Sunday against the Chiefs. He is the highest passer
rating in NFL history and the third highest winning percentage
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in NFL history. Yet against Patrick he has an eighty
passer rating and is one in six.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
People don't want.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
For some reason to admit that Lamar is afflicted by
something that has afflicted at great athletes across all of
sports history. He gets a little heightened big spots, He
doesn't play his best in the biggest moments. I don't
we have no problem. The baseball playoffs are about to start.
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Everybody acknowledges Aaron Judge is one of the greatest players
of all time. Yet he comes up up to this
point in his career consistently short in the postseason, plays
his worst ball in the biggest moments, and you wonder
if he'll get over it. We did it with James Harden.
What I don't understand why it is so hard for
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people to acknowledge that is the case with Lamar And
by the way you saw it in this game, he's
instantly throwing his helmet, He's instantly on tilt like it
just is what it is. Maybe he'll get over it.
But it's a big sample size.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
At this point, so.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
It's interesting with Caleb Williams is that one of the
things I've always bragged about Steph Curry and Patrick Mahomes
is the spectacular. But they never missed the layups, the
stuff in the flat. I mean, they don't miss the
laps spectatum and a lot of guys. Cam Newton was spectacular,
he missed a lot of layups. His mechanics were bad.
Caleb Williams makes big time throws justin field is talented.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Never does thinking done.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Caleb makes big throws down the field, and I do
honestly believe he's running less than he could. You can
tell he's taking to coaching. But I am worried a
little bit that they had three picks off Gino and
needed a block kick. Because the operations, the layup stuff, Nick,
it's hard to watch false starts on fourth down, Like,
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I'm kind of I'm like, this stuff didn't seem hard
for Mahomes or steph if it's just it's not pretty right?
Speaker 6 (19:49):
No, so that listen, I think that's totally fair where
I would And I don't know if you and I
agree or disagree on this, but if I am trying
to if I am getting a quarterback who could be
my franchise quarterback, and you're like, listen, he's not a
perfect prospect.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Would you rather prospect A or B?
Speaker 6 (20:10):
A guy who you know makes all the layups, has
all the process stuff down, but has a pretty hard
ceiling on what the upside is. Or a guy like
Caleb whose ceiling is he could be MVP of the league,
can make the fantastic, amazing plays, but what's the layups?
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As you put it is.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
A work in progress.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
I would go option B because I feel like that
stuff can get better over time. But I don't think
it's going to be overnight. I do think it's going
to be overtime. I do, and listen, I was wrong
about that obviously. I thought it was going to be overnight.
I picked him to go to the Super Bowl last year.
He is not as far along from his in the fundamentals,
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the building blocks.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
As I thought he would be.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
But I listen, he's a very different player, and I'm
not I'm only comping it in this one way. As
far as being far away on the fundamentals, that's what
Josh Allen was as a young player. Josh had these
wow plays, but couldn't you know, was very inaccurate, couldn't
complete his passes, and then got better at that stuff.
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And so I like betting on the upside. But I
agree with you in this regard. Right now, the Bears
are a team who can look absolutely amazing for a
quarter and then the very next quarter looked like the
worst offense in the league.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
And I think that's going to be a process over
the course of the year.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I think the Josh Allen comp is I mean, it's
very accurate. Like Josh's first year and a half, he
was jumping over linebackers, and salmon balls on screen passes. Yes,
so it was interesting. You and I have been very
critical of Cowboys. I think Dak's plan out of his mind,
and Schottenheimer deserves credit, but I thought the overreaction to
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the Mica trade was over the top. I think you
have to be great at three things to be a
great team. Head coach, quarterback, and left tackle. The only
times Mahomes has ever gotten blown out, it's a left
tackle issue. It's not a defense. He's won a Super
Bowl with a bad defense. He's won a Super Bowl
with no great receivers, bad left tackle, blown out flies.
The Rams' worst year is Andrew Whitworth retires. They were
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good when Aaron Donald left. They were good with Cooper
Cup left. They're good when Von Miller left. Andrew Whitworth retires,
they're bad. And I know I look at Micah and
I'm like, the Packers are going to lead games late
with their offense.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
They need a closer. Dallas is fine.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I mean I look back at it and I'm like,
I think Jerry Jones were so unwilling to give him credit.
I watched that game Sunday, I'm like, I get four
first round picks.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
In Dallas.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
What did Mica do? Where are you on that deal?
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Okay, Well, first of all, I think you've let Jerry
Mine meld you a bit because the four first round
picks they got two they already had two, so like
there is like the two first round picks, and I
think it is it would be unfair Colin for me
to judge the trade fully from the Dallas end until
we see the picks, right like they traded for Kenny
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Clark and picks that they.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Haven't used yet.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
So obviously, in the short term it's gonna look better
for green Bay, and then we have to take a
long view of it for Dallas. But I have actually
I watched Dallas play, Colin, and I think I come
to the opposite opinion of you, because because I've been
so impressed by Deck, because I have been pleasantly surprised.
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Shout out to you know, FS one's Eric Mangini, who
really believed in Brian Schottenheimer when I don't think anybody
really thought that was a great hire. I think he's
done an awesome job early on. But that has made
me like this trade worse, Colin, because I watched the
Cowboys and I'm like, my god, if they just could
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be average on defense, they could be really interesting. They
just put forty on Green Bay without ceedee lamb. They
damn near beat the Packers, you know they they their
offense has been so good that I watched the Cowboys
and I'm like, man, you know what, they could use
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an elite pass rusher which they used to have. Like
I almost would feel better about this trade for Dallas
if Dak were having a bad year, because to me,
then it would be like, Okay, they.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Weren't that close.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
They weren't going to compete for anything this year, so let's,
you know, retool it. But it feels to me like
this team would be three and one had they just
kept Micah and be an actual dangerous team. So that
for me makes it harder to deal with with the
Ywerry Cowboys fan.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
So I jmck and I had a disagreement on this.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I said, you an accountant, a judge, a novelist, an actor.
In most careers, you got about twenty five years of
prime and you can work to your seventies.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
You can't as a pro football player. And so AJ.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Brown and I do think winning matters, but he's already
got a trophy. I do think if you went to
Kobe and said, listen, you get six shots a game,
Kobe would have been like, peace out, I'm going to
go somewhere else. AJ Brown gets fewer yards than the
third Buffalo Bills tight end. He's got money and he's
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got a trophy. His legacy is on the line. He's
not necessary. They try to target him nine target seven
yards most of the time. He's just not And I
think if I was AJ Brown, this sounds selfish, but
I think pro athletes get cornered into well it's about
winning games. Well that's part of it, and it's it's
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transformational money, and there's legacies involved. And my take is
if I was a J. Brown, I'd go to Philadelphia.
I'd say quietly, I'm not gonna screw the market up.
I'm not gonna do a mellow with the Nuggets to
the Knicks where I make it public and the Knicks
the Nugget your track. Yeah, I would go and just say, hey,
Luel Sinder to this a year before he got traded,
I don't want to be here, make a deal.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
I think a J.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Brown has a right to leave. I am defending him,
not staying with a better organization.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Am I wrong?
Speaker 4 (26:28):
No? I mean I totally agree with you.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
I think that it is I it would be hypocritical
for me to be mad at Aj Brown for acting
I'm pretty sure exactly how.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
I would act in his position, Like.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I'd be like, I'm if I'm Aj.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Brown, I'm like, I'm awesome. I've always been awesome.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
I get drafted by a team that has Ryan Tannehill
and Derrick Henry and they they throw to me as
like a last resort. I think, get traded to Philadelphia.
Right when I get there, they throw the ball to
me a bunch. I make all these all pros. The
team's really good. And now over the last twenty games,
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our team has become unbeatable and I've become unusable, Like
what the hell has happened here? And so this is
like I try to give grace to you know, athletes.
If I'm if I can think of a you know,
a comp for me and what I would do, Like
if somebody, if if Fox came to me, they're like, hey, Nick,
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we want you to do a sixty second essay during
the Super Bowl. There's going to be one hundred million,
one hundred and twenty million people watching now in order
to do it the whole week leading up to the
super Bowl. You can't do your show, but we'll have
more people seeing you there.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
It's a bigger thing.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
I'd probably in my head be like, yeah, I kind
of want to do my show, like I kind of
like the and so like the I think there is
if you feel like you're great at something and you
feel like you're not able to show it and it's
not because your skills have declined, it can be frustrating.
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And so I think this is a simmering, simmering pot
colin that the old they are very and I give
the Eagles. I think it's fair to have them number
one hierarchy because I respect the fact that they win
so many different ways. They blocked the field goal two
weeks ago to win the game, they blocked the punt
this week to set the game up to win. But
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there have been I did this this morning. There have
been two one hundred and fifty six halves of football
played so far this year. The worst and second worst
passing performance by half for the whole league this season
was the first half for Philadelphia two weeks ago, and
the set and half for Philadelphia this past week. That
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should never happen when you have a really good quarterback,
a great wide receiver, another really good receiver, a good receiving.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Back, and a good tight end.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Something is off right now about their offense, but they're
winning anyway. If they're not going to change that, then
I would not begrudge if AJ Brown were like, Hey,
you know a team that wants to throw the ball,
that needs a star receiver that my former head coach
is the head coach of in New England.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Why don't you see if you can work something out.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
And if you're Philly, he might be worth more to
you in draft capital as your roster gets more expensive
than he is on the team because they're not effectively
using him.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
You and I agree on that, And I think it's
very easy in the media to always say the players
not about winning. It'd be one thing if he didn't
have a ring, but once you get the trophy and
you've got the money, legacy matters.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
He's trying to make the Hall of Fame. The guy's
trying to make the Hall of Fame. And he put
and I referenced this last time we talked about this.
I'm just gonna reference it again, he told the world.
Three days after the Super Bowl, he put on Instagram,
I wondered how long winning a Super Bowl would make
me feel good. The answer is about two days. And
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then he said, I play this game to see the
demoralized defensive back who realizes they can't do anything with me.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
He's been very honest.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
He wants to be a dominant individual player, and he
feels correctly that will help his team.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
It's not like that's going to hurt his team.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
And if I were him, I'd be frustrated too.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Good stuff, Nick, Right, Chargers are eleven. It should be
noted the Chiefs were eleven last week.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
I'm oh, yeah, who knows Chargers could do it? Listen,
not everybody, Colin can not every AFC West team can
go to the Meadowland and can get a win. Mine can.
I don't know about you guys, but mine can do it.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
See you lighterbuddy.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
All right?
Speaker 2 (31:07):
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Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yeah, so you know, Jay Mack, I do Colin Wright wrong?
In a Monday.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
But one of the things I always try not to be.
I try to be fair, even though I'm critical. And
sometimes people say, well, you kind of pick on blankety blank,
and you're always You're always harsh. And I was thinking
this morning, I tend to be old school. I love
to sit down and write letters. I do it all
the time. Not long letters, but I like to write letters.
I love the post office, I love stamps, and so
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I thought, you know, I just last night I sat
down watching the Yankees and Red Sox, and I penned
some letters and I'd like to share them.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
With the audience. Yes, cannot wait to hear people.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I've been a little critical of the first one I wrote.
I wrote to Aaron Rodgers, and Aaron doesn't like me,
and that's okay.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
A lot of people don't like me. But I wrote
to Aaron.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
I said, listen to Aaron Rodgers, I was wrong to
call you a snark, prickly weird uncle. You are a baller,
not a Baylor, after all, My bad, bro. You've been magnetic,
energizing and resilient in Pittsburgh. The rare eccentric quarterback who
was pointing Steel City out of the darkness and in.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
To the lights, yours, CC.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
And then I wrote another letter to Daniel Jones, Dear
Danny Dimes, I said you were a bland vanilla unremarkable
turnover machine.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I was wrong.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
You're a steady gritty, You're bankable, and now I'm coining
you Danny dollars after minting your franchise valuable yours CC.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Well, I wasn't done. I had to get a new pan.
I ran out of ink.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I got a new pan, and I wrote another letter
to Baker Mayfield. Dear Baker, I once called you an immature, undraftable,
two time transfer, a frat guy in commercials. Well, it
takes a big man to admit when he's wrong, and
I'm six to two. You are undeniable, a flag planting rebel,
a team captain of a pirate ship, the walk on quarterback,
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forcing foes to walk the plank, yours CC.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
I wrote some other stuff on the back of that,
but I'm not going to show you. Dan Campbell, I
wrote one to him too. My wife's from Michigan, so
I knew the zip code.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Dear Dan Campbell, I laughed at you as a too
much raw raw kneecap, biting meat head. And it turns
out chomping on knees is authentic and strategic and culture correcting.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
With you at the helm.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
The Lions are never down, even when it's fourth yours, CC,
This one was tough.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
This last one I was pretty brutal. I gotta be honest.
It was tough. And I don't know the area code
in Dallas zip code. Excuse me? I wrote to Brian Schottneimer.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
I said, dear Shoddy, I called the Cowboys a two
win team after I saw your backwards visor.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
It was a loss a lie. Excuse me, it was
a lie.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
You're a your two losses in a tie, all right,
that's being a smart alec. It's all going to change.
You're steady and adaptable, you're stabilizing. I'm sorry, Coach Schottenneimer.
You prove that a backwards visor is just forward thinking yours, CC,
C Jmax. Sometimes you have to sit down and be pensive.
(34:25):
Yeahign and tell these people listen, I know it's rough.
Hopefully they open their mail. A lot of people these
days don't even go to the mailbox.
Speaker 7 (34:33):
Yeah, is this the new colin your Midwest sensibilities you're
writing apology letters and yeah for week five of the NFL.
By the way, Schottenheimer, you should have just torn that
one up. There's no way that they're doing anything with
that guy at the Helm, no shot, and quickly on
Dan Campbell. He was a little goofy at the beginning,
remember he was, he was. They've turned it around, we'll
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see if it continues.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
One of one of the people uh in the NFL
that I've just always respected their opinion was Bill Parcells.
Parcells loved him, and so I was like, come on, Bill, gee,
he comes.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
You know what I was told.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I think I've told this story a couple of times,
so I'm sorry, but most of you don't listen all day.
So I was told by a GM that I was
in the off season. I was asking him about hiring
coaches and how hard it is, like seven new guys
every year. Five don't work, you know, I mean Andy Reider,
Jim Harbaugh or Sean Payton. That's the easy stuff and
a lot of times it doesn't work. And he said,
you know, you're really hiring a CEO. He doesn't have
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to know schemes. If you get Andy Reider, Shanahan that's
a bonus. You don't need a scheme guy. You need
a man who can stand in front of fifty five
alphas and lead the team over the hill. Create self
belief because everybody's hurt by week five. Guys have to
believe in each other. That's very much Jim Harball. Harball
loves his players, Swiss players will do anything for him.
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And that's Dan Campbell. And then that's what I've questioned
with Mike McDaniel. I don't question the intelligence. He's a
scheme guy. But you can make it in this league
being a culture creator and not good with schemes, Well
don't You can't. It's yet to be proven if you
can make it as a great scheme guy, but your
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players don't really trust you or believe in you. And
Dan Campbell, I remember his first year and a half.
They were bad and I went on the air. I
think they played Baltimore at home, they lost, and I
was like, I don't think I've ever seen a team
in the league play as hard as they do. They're
getting hammered. They don't have personnel. So I think you
if you're a great CEO, you don't have to be
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anything in the scheme department. If you're a great scheme guy,
if you don't have the ability. That was always the
knock on Matt Lafleur. Everybody knew he was a great
scheme guy, but he wasn't the guy who had ever
stood in front of the room. And he's not a
real big brash guy with a big ego. Now he's
become very good at that. But I remember talking to
a GM They say he's super smart, but he doesn't
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have the McVeigh Like McVeigh walks into a and he's
just like wow. You know, Matt's kind of quiet, he
doesn't need to talk a lot. But he's developed into
a great culture guy as well.
Speaker 7 (37:08):
I mean, listen, it's tough because with Campbell, yes, I
agree with everything you said one hundred percent, but Colin,
there's going to come a time when there's two minutes
left and it's twenty four all right, of the NFC
Championship Game, and all that CEO stuff that Dan Campbell
brings to the table is not going to get you
over the top and get you to the end zone.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Right. You need the scheme.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
So, like most things in life, it's a little fifty
to fifty maybe sixty forty. You hire the scheme right,
so Ben Johnson as the OC they take, they make
the jump to light speed. But early on in the
Dan Campbell era, they weren't great. They needed that scheme guy.
Now have they found him in whoever their OC is now,
Johnny Willie. We'll see, I mean, listen, the Bengals game
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could be dangerous. I'm seeing an injury report. I know
you don't like him. Lions could be down boat starting.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Cornerbacksidel against Jason Higgins Philadelphia is a great example.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Sirianni's more CEO. He's not a scheme guys.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
So on he had stik in, Oh you look great, yes,
Steike and leaves he's awful. He hires Brian Johnson, it
doesn't work. Then he hires Kellen Moore, it works. Kellen
Moore leaves. They've got a new guy in. Now it's
not working, right. So Sirianni has been incredibly dependent on
Howie Roseman's drafting. But he's been as good Nick Sirianni's
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an offensive guy. He has been as good as his
coordinators because he's not a scheme guy. He's heavily relented.
Now he's hired a great one that he missed and
they hired a better one.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Has he missed We don't know. But it's tough.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
That's tough. It's like drafting.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
You don't know what you're getting. Some of these ocs.
Speaker 7 (38:39):
Remember the Houston Texans two years ago thought they had
their guy awesome ocs like the world of fires Stroud,
He's gone, We're slowing.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Now, what's he doing?
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Half of these guys.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Did anybody ever think Tom Cofflin would beat Brady and
Belichick in two Super Bowls when he was at Boston College?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I mean, he just don't. You don't know who you're
hiring sometimes
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I'm not even gonna I'm not gonna go there.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
That's one of my favorites.
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You can say whatever you want. Come on, let's hear no, no, no,
I'm gonna do it in about fifteen minutes. Oh maybe
thirty minutes. Right here we go.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Colin Wright, Colin wrong, plenty of both in a Monday
where Colin was right. I said last week with Baltimore,
I don't want to hear its injuries. I'm not sure
what they do well defensively. They weren't good on Monday
night and they're not good now. That's the best game
Patrick Mahomes has played in a long time. Look at
what Kansas City did seven yards of play. Kansas City's rebuilding,
their own line, has no run game, Travis Kelcey. You
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get about one big play a game, and they don't
have a number one receiver. I mean, Mahomes hasn't played
that well in so long. So it's not like Kansas
City doesn't have injuries. Rashie Rice isn't playing. This is
Worthy's first game back. They lost their best offensive linemen.
They have no real consistent rule game Baltimore. I said
it last week. I think it's time to panic. You
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may need more than just getting guys healthy on the defensive.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Side, where Colin was rogged.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Outside of the Bears game, Brian Schottenheimer has looked buttoned up.
I know the Cowboys are won two and one, but
they're getting the ball to the right people. I mean,
this is the best I've seen Dak play in eight years.
You got to get you gotta get Brian Schottenheimer some
credit for it. They didn't have Cede Lamb and they
mixed them. They mixed it up very well. Again, their
clock management was better than Green Bay. Some of that's
(02:31):
just Dak's been around. He's a smart guy. But I
will say they're wildly entertaining to watch. They're in every game.
They should have beaten if not for a CD Lamb drop,
they should have beaten Philadelphia. I thought this team was
going to be absolutely potentially the second third worst team
in the league, and they're a They're a pretty fun
team to watch, and Dak has played out of his mind.
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Where Colin was right, Oh, brought pretty or Mac Jones?
You tell me there's a difference. Wasn't the knock on
brought pretty out of college?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
He was a bit.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Small and reckless. Well, so far this year, four tds
four picks. He's got more turnovers than total touchdowns. I
know the Niners had some drops, but they also had
a couple of guys make catches that could have been
potentially intercepted that they not made the catch, So he
did not play well. Again, he's banged up. I understand
that these are professional athletes. It's the NFL. Everybody's banged
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up by week three and four. I don't see the
massive gap. I think Perty's better than Mac Jones, but
I don't see the forty five million dollar.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Gap where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
That is the best game offensively I have seen the
Steelers play in maybe six years. Honestly, Aaron was tremendous.
The back shoulder throws, the tempo. I mean the Steelers
have had an offensive line issue in a run game
issue since Big Ben's second to last year. DK Metcalf
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and Aaron really connected. Steelers had six sacks and a
lot of that. The Vikings old lines all banged out.
But I don't want to hear about it. All I
know is when I watched that game, that was a
twenty twenty five offense, a number one receiver, a consistent
run game, good pass pro Aaron deserves credit. Hey they
have He is leading this offense and he deserves credit
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because if you're a Steeler fan, when's the last time
you saw a third down, a game plan, a run
game that consistent. And Minnesota's got real players. Brian Floor
is a great DC. Where Colin was right, Well, I've
said Matt Stafford maybe the best thrower of a football
in the world. He put on a clinic yesterday. I
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mean I have him in the Super Bowl bubble. He
and Pooka are arguably the best quarterback wide receiver combo
even too two Atwell, who was a bus they kept
around for a year, ended up having the game winner
McVeigh plus Stafford and that defense, this is a real team.
Indianapolis is no joke. They got they have a roster,
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but Stafford game winning drives just absolutely beautiful to watch.
He is the best pocket quarterback we've had in.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
A long time.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Where Colin was raw.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, I got a.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Little ahead of myself on USC first real challenge, got
pushed around by Illinois. The same Illinois team that had
one hundred and sixty total yards against Indiana had over
five hundred. Everybody's banging on Lincoln Riley because they scored
so quickly. Well, you don't want to get cute on
the road. They just looked lost. They got burned on
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this Philly special. They didn't consistently generate a pass rush.
I don't know what it is, but the longer D'Anton lynn,
a great d coordinator is in USC, the softer the
defense gets and I I think he's done a great
job with Jaden Miyob at the quarterback, but defensively the
back end is atrocious.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Sam Darnold is elite.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
He's the winningest quarterback in the league since the beginning
of last year. This year completing seventy percent of his
throws one hundred and six passer rating on what I like.
This team is Green Bay young offensively, This is an
incredibly young roster. Donald moves from Minnesota. They jam him in.
They go from Kevin O'Connell and Justin jeffersonto a bunch
of kids. He's had two game winning drives in four games.
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He is a great fit. For years and years, I said,
I watched Sam Darnold play. He won in high school
at USC, at Minnesota and Seattle. Who's winning with the
Panthers and the Jets. This guy can play where Colin
was right. Dante Moore. If I had a number one
pick in the draft, I would pick Dante Moore the
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quarterback for Oregon. This kid the poise, the stoicism, that
is a loud road environment. Oregon's a young team. He
is phenomenal. I said last week, I'm gonna take Oregon.
Dante is next level. Some of these throws. This kid
is really good. And all the quarterbacks we thought were
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gonna be great coming into the season Drew Aller kid
club Nick. Eh, that's the number one pick in the draft.
This this kid is if he wants to come out,
he may not, but this kid, this kid is really
good to go on the road to be his age
and he's just.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Not bothered at all.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I get if you're a thirty two year old NFL quarterback,
but that's intimidating. That is an intimidating place you on
the road in overtime and he's making throws off platform.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Wow.
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Well, here we go on a Tuesday. Let's roll it.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Heard hierarchy, Now no go. The top ten NFL teams
according to College Number.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Ten the Colts.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I love their offensive line and their skill offensively. They
had the game and lost it against the Rams. They
have the most efficient offense in the league, and they
don't make mistakes. You can't get the Daniel Jones do.
I think he's great? Nobody's playing like a b quarterback
with you know, decent arm moves. Well again, Jonathan Taylor.
This offensive line, I mean a Denver Broncos pass rush
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struggled to get to Daniel Jones. If you have an
offensive line this good and Jonathan Taylor, you're gonna make
great quarterbacks, sit and watch for long stretches. I have
the Colts at ten, number nine Denver Sean Payton as
a career five hundred record in September. Even with Drew
Brees and bow Knicks, it's ugly early. This roster is
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really good. They're gonna lead the NFL in sacks again.
Two good running backs, excellent O line, hard to get
to bow Knicks, who throws the ball down the field.
They take big swing. They got a lot of guys
who can run and catch a lot. Dobbins and Harvey
and MIM's and Franklin and Courtland Sutton. This is a
really deep offensive team that also leaves the league in sacks.
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Denver nine, number eight Detroit takeout Game one against green
Bay with the new coordinators. Jared Goff's completing seventy four
percent of his throws this year. Road graters up front,
excellent backfield. I mean, Jared Goff hasn't been sacked in
three games, so he may be better at home. He
may protection to be great. Well, he's getting it with
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a great run game. Defensively, I don't think they're great,
but they get after the quarterback. Only Denver gets to
the quarterback more. I have the Lions at eight, number seven.
It's hard to figure out what Tampa is. I mean,
they're three and one, they're in every game, but the
problem is they're in every game late. They don't put
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anybody away. And you know Baker can be reckless. He
is very good throwing the ball down the field. In fact,
he leads the NFL right now five tds no interceptions
on throws twenty plus. He's a risk taker, a Mecca
Bouka is a star. They got a lot of injuries
to deal with, But I just I like their spirit
and I'm gonna put Tampa at number seven, number six.
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This was my team that I thought was underrated. I
think they're gonna be a playoff team. Seattle second best
point differential in the league. They're a great road team.
They've won eight straight road games. I think that speaks
to their character and their talent. Sam Darnold again leads
the NFL in game winning drives and big pass plays
over the last two years and second in wins. Sam's
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always been elite in high school at usc At, Minnesota
and Seattle. Who wins with the Jets in Carolina. This
team may be too young to get to a super Bowl.
But opposing quarterbacks this year have a seventy six passer
rating against them.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
They're legit number five youngest team in the league. Green
Bay I like him. They scored on.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
All five drives in the second half in overtime against
the Cowboys. They're young, unlike Kansas City or Philadelphia. They
don't know yet how to put away inferior teams. But
Jordan Love this year eight tuddies, one pick and one
hundred and thirteen passer rating.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
He's fine. They're great on third down. It's just they're young.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Third straight season, youngest roster, and that's the value of
the playoffs for the great teams. They know how to
win games. They don't play well. Green Bay does yet.
Number four Kansas City I kept saying all week. Xavier
Worthy matters. He not only stretches the field, he gives
them some volumet wide receiver. Now you're going to have
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Rashi Rice in three weeks, Worthy, Juju Smith, Schuscher's a three.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Somebody else will be a four. Travis Kelty.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Now, they're not going to be a great run team
unless they make a move with the trade deadline, and
that worries me. But over the last three weeks they
have the number two scoring defense and they don't give
the ball away. That's why Buffalo is so dangerous, and
Philadelphia can be dangerous, and Kansas City is They don't
give you the ball. So I get a big time defense,
a great coach and quarterback, and they don't give you
a short field. Kansas City four number three. But I
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think the Rams, I'm not sure their weakness. Everything's good.
I mean, their offensive line isn't dominant. But Matt Stafford
highest credit passer in the league, Poka Nakua right now,
he's the best wide receiver in the league. I get
read you nine statsy league top ten in scoring defense.
I mean, it's what's amazing is how good their defense is.
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And they don't pay any of them. They've hit on
so many draft picks. They remind me of Kansas City's defense.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Two years ago.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
It was great and they weren't paying anybody but Chris Jones,
so coach, quarterback defense, lot of wisdom. I have him
at three, number two bills. The defense worries me and
could be their shortcoming. But like Kansas City, they don't
give the ball away. James Cook has taken off the
heavy lifting for Josh Allen. There are games he doesn't
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have to carry it. Highest rushing great in the league
is James Cook. One giveaway in nine games including the playoffs.
They actually lead the NFL right now in rushing, and
that's what we said for years. You can't ask Josh
to be Superman every week. He no longer is Buffalo
at two. Number one, listen, I mean they even do
a good job blocking kicks. They're uneven. I do think
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they have too many really bad halfs. First half against
the Rams, second half against the Bucks. But the roster
is stacked, and every time I doubt Jalen hurts, he
turns it on. So I think there's something about his
kind of personality and his toughness and his resilience. They're
the best two yard team in league history. They block kicked,
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it's just not a lot. They're very good situationally, so
for now, best roster that does a lot of things well.
Number one, Yes, Kansas that he made a big leap,
As our next guest will point to, I'm probably right
on that. I regretted doing it. I wanted to sneak
aim at seven to eight. But Nick Wright joins us
live and I want to start with this. I generally
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don't take eleven to four.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
Oh sorry, this says nice to see the Chiefs back
on the hard hierarchy. I was celebrating, Sorry, yeah, go ahead,
and you were saying eleven to four.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
I'm sorry, I.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Don't do it. But the truth is, you've got to
be honest about this. Is they just needed one legitimate,
big time perimeter threat. They did, and suddenly everybody else
looks good in all the underneaths wow. But the bigger
story is that I never buy into this. I've always
said this. You can go into slumps with golf so
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much downtime gets in your head, or baseball sitting around,
but in hockey, basketball, football, you gotta play. You don't
have time to get into a slump. Stuff doesn't get
into your head. And then I watched Lamar against Kansas City,
and I am convinced they are in his head right well, well.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
To a degree, yes, But there's a lot to unback here, Colin,
So let me take some time because you are I
even saw your tweets saying I tried to tell j
Mack about when Xavier Worthy came back and listen. I'm
all for you giving j Mack a hard time for
his chief skepticism, But I watched the Super Bowl Bubble
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on Friday's episode. You know who wasn't even in the
bubble for the bubble, the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And you knew zamyer Worthy was coming back.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
So you didn't even make it to October before you
had to admit your Chiefs pessimism was unfounded. And by
the way, where is the greatest coach quarterback combo in
Southern California?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Is free?
Speaker 6 (16:15):
The Los Angeles Chargers, Oh no, they're dealing with an
injury now they're all of a sudden not a top
ten team, but to the Ravens, which is I know
where you wanted to Gouys. Need to get that off
my chest. Listen, the Chiefs are in Lamar's head and
he doesn't perform well in big spots. It's just I
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don't need we do this same exact dance we in
the media every year with this player. He is transcendent
through a regular season. People say he's taken his game
to a new level.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
He wins or comes close to winning an MVP.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
He's the highest rated passer ever he's all of this,
then in a bit spot, he plays his worst game
of the year. Everyone for a moment is like, hmm,
kind of reminds me a bit of a guy who
used to play shooting guard in Houston that we all
thought was an all time great but tightened up in
big spots and couldn't get it done. And then we
forget and it goes all over again. In the last
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thirty games, Colin Lamar has two I'm sorry, three multi
turnover games in his last thirty the AFC title game
against the Chiefs, the Divisional round playoff game against Buffalo,
and Sunday against the Chiefs. He is the highest passer
rating in NFL history and the third highest winning percentage
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in NFL history. Yet against Patrick he has an eighty
passer rating and is one in six.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
People don't want.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
For some reason to admit that Lamar is afflicted by
something that has afflicted at great athletes across all of
sports history. He gets a little heightened big spots, He
doesn't play his best in the biggest moments. I don't
we have no problem. The baseball playoffs are about to start.
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Everybody acknowledges Aaron Judge is one of the greatest players
of all time. Yet he comes up up to this
point in his career consistently short in the postseason, plays
his worst ball in the biggest moments, and you wonder
if he'll get over it. We did it with James Harden.
What I don't understand why it is so hard for
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people to acknowledge that is the case with Lamar And
by the way you saw it in this game, he's
instantly throwing his helmet, He's instantly on tilt like it
just is what it is. Maybe he'll get over it.
But it's a big sample size.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
At this point, so.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
It's interesting with Caleb Williams is that one of the
things I've always bragged about Steph Curry and Patrick Mahomes
is the spectacular. But they never missed the layups, the
stuff in the flat. I mean, they don't miss the
laps spectatum and a lot of guys. Cam Newton was spectacular,
he missed a lot of layups. His mechanics were bad.
Caleb Williams makes big time throws justin field is talented.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Never does thinking done.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Caleb makes big throws down the field, and I do
honestly believe he's running less than he could. You can
tell he's taking to coaching. But I am worried a
little bit that they had three picks off Gino and
needed a block kick. Because the operations, the layup stuff, Nick,
it's hard to watch false starts on fourth down, Like,
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I'm kind of I'm like, this stuff didn't seem hard
for Mahomes or steph if it's just it's not pretty right?
Speaker 6 (19:49):
No, so that listen, I think that's totally fair where
I would And I don't know if you and I
agree or disagree on this, but if I am trying
to if I am getting a quarterback who could be
my franchise quarterback, and you're like, listen, he's not a
perfect prospect.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Would you rather prospect A or B?
Speaker 6 (20:10):
A guy who you know makes all the layups, has
all the process stuff down, but has a pretty hard
ceiling on what the upside is. Or a guy like
Caleb whose ceiling is he could be MVP of the league,
can make the fantastic, amazing plays, but what's the layups?
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As you put it is.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
A work in progress.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
I would go option B because I feel like that
stuff can get better over time. But I don't think
it's going to be overnight. I do think it's going
to be overtime. I do, and listen, I was wrong
about that obviously. I thought it was going to be overnight.
I picked him to go to the Super Bowl last year.
He is not as far along from his in the fundamentals,
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the building blocks.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
As I thought he would be.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
But I listen, he's a very different player, and I'm
not I'm only comping it in this one way. As
far as being far away on the fundamentals, that's what
Josh Allen was as a young player. Josh had these
wow plays, but couldn't you know, was very inaccurate, couldn't
complete his passes, and then got better at that stuff.
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And so I like betting on the upside. But I
agree with you in this regard. Right now, the Bears
are a team who can look absolutely amazing for a
quarter and then the very next quarter looked like the
worst offense in the league.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
And I think that's going to be a process over
the course of the year.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I think the Josh Allen comp is I mean, it's
very accurate. Like Josh's first year and a half, he
was jumping over linebackers, and salmon balls on screen passes. Yes,
so it was interesting. You and I have been very
critical of Cowboys. I think Dak's plan out of his mind,
and Schottenheimer deserves credit, but I thought the overreaction to
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the Mica trade was over the top. I think you
have to be great at three things to be a
great team. Head coach, quarterback, and left tackle. The only
times Mahomes has ever gotten blown out, it's a left
tackle issue. It's not a defense. He's won a Super
Bowl with a bad defense. He's won a Super Bowl
with no great receivers, bad left tackle, blown out flies.
The Rams' worst year is Andrew Whitworth retires. They were
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good when Aaron Donald left. They were good with Cooper
Cup left. They're good when Von Miller left. Andrew Whitworth retires,
they're bad. And I know I look at Micah and
I'm like, the Packers are going to lead games late
with their offense.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
They need a closer. Dallas is fine.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I mean I look back at it and I'm like,
I think Jerry Jones were so unwilling to give him credit.
I watched that game Sunday, I'm like, I get four
first round picks.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
In Dallas.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
What did Mica do? Where are you on that deal?
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Okay, Well, first of all, I think you've let Jerry
Mine meld you a bit because the four first round
picks they got two they already had two, so like
there is like the two first round picks, and I
think it is it would be unfair Colin for me
to judge the trade fully from the Dallas end until
we see the picks, right like they traded for Kenny
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Clark and picks that they.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Haven't used yet.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
So obviously, in the short term it's gonna look better
for green Bay, and then we have to take a
long view of it for Dallas. But I have actually
I watched Dallas play, Colin, and I think I come
to the opposite opinion of you, because because I've been
so impressed by Deck, because I have been pleasantly surprised.
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Shout out to you know, FS one's Eric Mangini, who
really believed in Brian Schottenheimer when I don't think anybody
really thought that was a great hire. I think he's
done an awesome job early on. But that has made
me like this trade worse, Colin, because I watched the
Cowboys and I'm like, my god, if they just could
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be average on defense, they could be really interesting. They
just put forty on Green Bay without ceedee lamb. They
damn near beat the Packers, you know they they their
offense has been so good that I watched the Cowboys
and I'm like, man, you know what, they could use
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an elite pass rusher which they used to have. Like
I almost would feel better about this trade for Dallas
if Dak were having a bad year, because to me,
then it would be like, Okay, they.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Weren't that close.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
They weren't going to compete for anything this year, so let's,
you know, retool it. But it feels to me like
this team would be three and one had they just
kept Micah and be an actual dangerous team. So that
for me makes it harder to deal with with the
Ywerry Cowboys fan.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
So I jmck and I had a disagreement on this.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I said, you an accountant, a judge, a novelist, an actor.
In most careers, you got about twenty five years of
prime and you can work to your seventies.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
You can't as a pro football player. And so AJ.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Brown and I do think winning matters, but he's already
got a trophy. I do think if you went to
Kobe and said, listen, you get six shots a game,
Kobe would have been like, peace out, I'm going to
go somewhere else. AJ Brown gets fewer yards than the
third Buffalo Bills tight end. He's got money and he's
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got a trophy. His legacy is on the line. He's
not necessary. They try to target him nine target seven
yards most of the time. He's just not And I
think if I was AJ Brown, this sounds selfish, but
I think pro athletes get cornered into well it's about
winning games. Well that's part of it, and it's it's
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transformational money, and there's legacies involved. And my take is
if I was a J. Brown, I'd go to Philadelphia.
I'd say quietly, I'm not gonna screw the market up.
I'm not gonna do a mellow with the Nuggets to
the Knicks where I make it public and the Knicks
the Nugget your track. Yeah, I would go and just say, hey,
Luel Sinder to this a year before he got traded,
I don't want to be here, make a deal.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
I think a J.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Brown has a right to leave. I am defending him,
not staying with a better organization.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Am I wrong?
Speaker 4 (26:28):
No? I mean I totally agree with you.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
I think that it is I it would be hypocritical
for me to be mad at Aj Brown for acting
I'm pretty sure exactly how.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
I would act in his position, Like.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I'd be like, I'm if I'm Aj.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Brown, I'm like, I'm awesome. I've always been awesome.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
I get drafted by a team that has Ryan Tannehill
and Derrick Henry and they they throw to me as
like a last resort. I think, get traded to Philadelphia.
Right when I get there, they throw the ball to
me a bunch. I make all these all pros. The
team's really good. And now over the last twenty games,
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our team has become unbeatable and I've become unusable, Like
what the hell has happened here? And so this is
like I try to give grace to you know, athletes.
If I'm if I can think of a you know,
a comp for me and what I would do, Like
if somebody, if if Fox came to me, they're like, hey, Nick,
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we want you to do a sixty second essay during
the Super Bowl. There's going to be one hundred million,
one hundred and twenty million people watching now in order
to do it the whole week leading up to the
super Bowl. You can't do your show, but we'll have
more people seeing you there.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
It's a bigger thing.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
I'd probably in my head be like, yeah, I kind
of want to do my show, like I kind of
like the and so like the I think there is
if you feel like you're great at something and you
feel like you're not able to show it and it's
not because your skills have declined, it can be frustrating.
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And so I think this is a simmering, simmering pot
colin that the old they are very and I give
the Eagles. I think it's fair to have them number
one hierarchy because I respect the fact that they win
so many different ways. They blocked the field goal two
weeks ago to win the game, they blocked the punt
this week to set the game up to win. But
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there have been I did this this morning. There have
been two one hundred and fifty six halves of football
played so far this year. The worst and second worst
passing performance by half for the whole league this season
was the first half for Philadelphia two weeks ago, and
the set and half for Philadelphia this past week. That
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should never happen when you have a really good quarterback,
a great wide receiver, another really good receiver, a good receiving.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Back, and a good tight end.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Something is off right now about their offense, but they're
winning anyway. If they're not going to change that, then
I would not begrudge if AJ Brown were like, Hey,
you know a team that wants to throw the ball,
that needs a star receiver that my former head coach
is the head coach of in New England.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Why don't you see if you can work something out.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
And if you're Philly, he might be worth more to
you in draft capital as your roster gets more expensive
than he is on the team because they're not effectively
using him.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
You and I agree on that, And I think it's
very easy in the media to always say the players
not about winning. It'd be one thing if he didn't
have a ring, but once you get the trophy and
you've got the money, legacy matters.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
He's trying to make the Hall of Fame. The guy's
trying to make the Hall of Fame. And he put
and I referenced this last time we talked about this.
I'm just gonna reference it again, he told the world.
Three days after the Super Bowl, he put on Instagram,
I wondered how long winning a Super Bowl would make
me feel good. The answer is about two days. And
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then he said, I play this game to see the
demoralized defensive back who realizes they can't do anything with me.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
He's been very honest.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
He wants to be a dominant individual player, and he
feels correctly that will help his team.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
It's not like that's going to hurt his team.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
And if I were him, I'd be frustrated too.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Good stuff, Nick, Right, Chargers are eleven. It should be
noted the Chiefs were eleven last week.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
I'm oh, yeah, who knows Chargers could do it? Listen,
not everybody, Colin can not every AFC West team can
go to the Meadowland and can get a win. Mine can.
I don't know about you guys, but mine can do it.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
See you lighterbuddy.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
All right?
Speaker 2 (31:07):
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Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yeah, so you know, Jay Mack, I do Colin Wright wrong?
In a Monday.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
But one of the things I always try not to be.
I try to be fair, even though I'm critical. And
sometimes people say, well, you kind of pick on blankety blank,
and you're always You're always harsh. And I was thinking
this morning, I tend to be old school. I love
to sit down and write letters. I do it all
the time. Not long letters, but I like to write letters.
I love the post office, I love stamps, and so
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I thought, you know, I just last night I sat
down watching the Yankees and Red Sox, and I penned
some letters and I'd like to share them.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
With the audience. Yes, cannot wait to hear people.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I've been a little critical of the first one I wrote.
I wrote to Aaron Rodgers, and Aaron doesn't like me,
and that's okay.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
A lot of people don't like me. But I wrote
to Aaron.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
I said, listen to Aaron Rodgers, I was wrong to
call you a snark, prickly weird uncle. You are a baller,
not a Baylor, after all, My bad, bro. You've been magnetic,
energizing and resilient in Pittsburgh. The rare eccentric quarterback who
was pointing Steel City out of the darkness and in.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
To the lights, yours, CC.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
And then I wrote another letter to Daniel Jones, Dear
Danny Dimes, I said you were a bland vanilla unremarkable
turnover machine.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I was wrong.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
You're a steady gritty, You're bankable, and now I'm coining
you Danny dollars after minting your franchise valuable yours CC.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Well, I wasn't done. I had to get a new pan.
I ran out of ink.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I got a new pan, and I wrote another letter
to Baker Mayfield. Dear Baker, I once called you an immature, undraftable,
two time transfer, a frat guy in commercials. Well, it
takes a big man to admit when he's wrong, and
I'm six to two. You are undeniable, a flag planting rebel,
a team captain of a pirate ship, the walk on quarterback,
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forcing foes to walk the plank, yours CC.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
I wrote some other stuff on the back of that,
but I'm not going to show you. Dan Campbell, I
wrote one to him too. My wife's from Michigan, so
I knew the zip code.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Dear Dan Campbell, I laughed at you as a too
much raw raw kneecap, biting meat head. And it turns
out chomping on knees is authentic and strategic and culture correcting.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
With you at the helm.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
The Lions are never down, even when it's fourth yours, CC,
This one was tough.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
This last one I was pretty brutal. I gotta be honest.
It was tough. And I don't know the area code
in Dallas zip code. Excuse me? I wrote to Brian Schottneimer.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
I said, dear Shoddy, I called the Cowboys a two
win team after I saw your backwards visor.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
It was a loss a lie. Excuse me, it was
a lie.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
You're a your two losses in a tie, all right,
that's being a smart alec. It's all going to change.
You're steady and adaptable, you're stabilizing. I'm sorry, Coach Schottenneimer.
You prove that a backwards visor is just forward thinking yours, CC,
C Jmax. Sometimes you have to sit down and be pensive.
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Yeahign and tell these people listen, I know it's rough.
Hopefully they open their mail. A lot of people these
days don't even go to the mailbox.
Speaker 7 (34:33):
Yeah, is this the new colin your Midwest sensibilities you're
writing apology letters and yeah for week five of the NFL.
By the way, Schottenheimer, you should have just torn that
one up. There's no way that they're doing anything with
that guy at the Helm, no shot, and quickly on
Dan Campbell. He was a little goofy at the beginning,
remember he was, he was. They've turned it around, we'll
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see if it continues.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
One of one of the people uh in the NFL
that I've just always respected their opinion was Bill Parcells.
Parcells loved him, and so I was like, come on, Bill, gee,
he comes.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
You know what I was told.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I think I've told this story a couple of times,
so I'm sorry, but most of you don't listen all day.
So I was told by a GM that I was
in the off season. I was asking him about hiring
coaches and how hard it is, like seven new guys
every year. Five don't work, you know, I mean Andy Reider,
Jim Harbaugh or Sean Payton. That's the easy stuff and
a lot of times it doesn't work. And he said,
you know, you're really hiring a CEO. He doesn't have
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to know schemes. If you get Andy Reider, Shanahan that's
a bonus. You don't need a scheme guy. You need
a man who can stand in front of fifty five
alphas and lead the team over the hill. Create self
belief because everybody's hurt by week five. Guys have to
believe in each other. That's very much Jim Harball. Harball
loves his players, Swiss players will do anything for him.
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And that's Dan Campbell. And then that's what I've questioned
with Mike McDaniel. I don't question the intelligence. He's a
scheme guy. But you can make it in this league
being a culture creator and not good with schemes, Well
don't You can't. It's yet to be proven if you
can make it as a great scheme guy, but your
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players don't really trust you or believe in you. And
Dan Campbell, I remember his first year and a half.
They were bad and I went on the air. I
think they played Baltimore at home, they lost, and I
was like, I don't think I've ever seen a team
in the league play as hard as they do. They're
getting hammered. They don't have personnel. So I think you
if you're a great CEO, you don't have to be
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anything in the scheme department. If you're a great scheme guy,
if you don't have the ability. That was always the
knock on Matt Lafleur. Everybody knew he was a great
scheme guy, but he wasn't the guy who had ever
stood in front of the room. And he's not a
real big brash guy with a big ego. Now he's
become very good at that. But I remember talking to
a GM They say he's super smart, but he doesn't
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have the McVeigh Like McVeigh walks into a and he's
just like wow. You know, Matt's kind of quiet, he
doesn't need to talk a lot. But he's developed into
a great culture guy as well.
Speaker 7 (37:08):
I mean, listen, it's tough because with Campbell, yes, I
agree with everything you said one hundred percent, but Colin,
there's going to come a time when there's two minutes
left and it's twenty four all right, of the NFC
Championship Game, and all that CEO stuff that Dan Campbell
brings to the table is not going to get you
over the top and get you to the end zone.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Right. You need the scheme.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
So, like most things in life, it's a little fifty
to fifty maybe sixty forty. You hire the scheme right,
so Ben Johnson as the OC they take, they make
the jump to light speed. But early on in the
Dan Campbell era, they weren't great. They needed that scheme guy.
Now have they found him in whoever their OC is now,
Johnny Willie. We'll see, I mean, listen, the Bengals game
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could be dangerous. I'm seeing an injury report. I know
you don't like him. Lions could be down boat starting.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Cornerbacksidel against Jason Higgins Philadelphia is a great example.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Sirianni's more CEO. He's not a scheme guys.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
So on he had stik in, Oh you look great, yes,
Steike and leaves he's awful. He hires Brian Johnson, it
doesn't work. Then he hires Kellen Moore, it works. Kellen
Moore leaves. They've got a new guy in. Now it's
not working, right. So Sirianni has been incredibly dependent on
Howie Roseman's drafting. But he's been as good Nick Sirianni's
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an offensive guy. He has been as good as his
coordinators because he's not a scheme guy. He's heavily relented.
Now he's hired a great one that he missed and
they hired a better one.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Has he missed We don't know. But it's tough.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
That's tough. It's like drafting.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
You don't know what you're getting. Some of these ocs.
Speaker 7 (38:39):
Remember the Houston Texans two years ago thought they had
their guy awesome ocs like the world of fires Stroud,
He's gone, We're slowing.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Now, what's he doing?
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Half of these guys.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Did anybody ever think Tom Cofflin would beat Brady and
Belichick in two Super Bowls when he was at Boston College?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I mean, he just don't. You don't know who you're
hiring sometimes
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