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Sold a little pre Super Bowl news. Jordan Schultz had
put it out and then Jay Glazer followed that Aaron
Rodgers will not be coming back to the New York Jets.
So I've been on the phone this morning with a
couple of different sources, and let me just tell you
what what I've been told. Aaron Glenn who came from
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that incredibly strong Detroit Lion culture, and these were the
exact words I was told. He didn't want the player
or the person in the building as he started his
NFL head coaching career, And that that doesn't necessarily mean
Aaron he's a bad person. That's not the point. Is
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that for what you deal with with Aaron, you have
to be far more productive than Aaron is at this
point in his career, which is around the fifteenth best
quarterback in the league. And again we all know this.
The more talent you have, the more stuff people will
put up with. But Erin now has been dumped twice.
This is the stuff I talked about eight years ago
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and got enormous pushback, even from NFL media people. Aaron's
a lot of work. I've known multiple Packers who have
played with him. He is moody. Depends on what Aaron
you get in the building, and green Bay cut him
off guard, and so did the Jets. Glazier's report was
he flew all the way to New York and with
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the idea that he was going to be a Jet
for at least one more year, and they informed him
that won't be the case. So I'm a little surprised
because I thought Aaron played well in the last eight
or so weeks of the year. And I do think
this is a bad quarterback draft, and so I'm not
exactly sure what they're going to do. And Sala and
Olbrich are not the kind of guys really to push
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back on Aaron. Aaron Glenn's a different cat. He's very intense,
he's very bottom line. He's not a compromising guy, and
he did not want to start his New York career
with Aaron Rodgers in the building. That's what I was told.
And I think Peyton Manning left Indy and won a
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Super Bowl. Tom Brady left New England and won a
Super Bowl. Brett Favre left Green Bay eventually ends up
in Minnesota and is a play from the Super Bowl.
With the Vikings, they had great success, Aaron did not hurt,
and then a really really bad season in a division
where you know New England was bad. In Miami is
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a little bit dysfunctional and limited. So there are two teams.
I just ran into Chip Kelly saturd a early evening
and we were talking about the Raiders at quarterback before
either one of us had this information. And I think
the Raiders and the Colts are the two places if
Aaron wants to play, that would be good fits Shane
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Steike and and Indy. I like that roster. I don't
think it's a top five roster, but I think it's
a good roster and a winnable division. And I think
I think having chip Kelly, two good tight ends, two
offensive tackles young their center. I think I think Las
Vegas has Pete Carroll chip Kelly, I think that's a
very promising landing spot if Aaron wants to play. There
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are people I was told this morning that are unsure
in the NFL if Aaron wants to play, and only
Aaron can answer that, and that could go back and
forth depending on the mood. Who knows. I'm not going
to try to speculate whether Aaron wants to play or not.
Have no idea. Some of the notes I have here
is that Aaron Glenn felt so strongly about what he
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wanted to build, and Aaron Glenn has an understanding that
what the Jets don't have, and they haven't had for
a decade or more, is a really good culture. They've
had good players. Aaron Glenn has told people there's a
lot of talent on this roster, and a lot of
it's on defense. You know, I've said this that if
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you look at all the job openings this year, we
may have misgivings about the Jets ownership and their stability
and their impulsive nature. At least that's how I view them.
Over the last decade, they've run through a lot of
coordinators and a lot of coaches. The roster's fine, the
roster's absolutely fine, but Aaron now is expensive and Davante Adams.
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My guess would be I asked somebody this morning about
Davonte Adams. He's very expensive and he came to New
York willingly because of Aaron Rodgers. So my guess is
the Jets, and it's a pretty good guess. Probably caught
Aaron and DeVante Adams, who's very expensive. He made what
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over twenty five million dollars last year? I did not
look that up this morning. But this really comes down
to something I have hit on and talked about for
years and years. And it doesn't mean he's necessarily a
bad person. That's not what I'm saying. But I've had
enough people in Aaron Rodgers' orbit that he is. Depends
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on the day and what you get from Aaron, and
Aaron Glenn was not going to walk on eggshells. He
just came from Detroit. He knows what culture means. He
took over a Jets like situation where you had some talent,
but you when the last time we talked about the
Lions pre Dan Campbell and what a great culture it
was like never they've had Calvin Johnson and Barry Sanders
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and Matt Stafford they've had really good players, but the
culture is the secret sauce for the Lions now that
in their own line and drafting they've got a really strong,
formidable culture. The Jets have player Jets have better players
today for Aaron Glenn than Dan Campbell had when he
took over the Lions. But after about a year and
a half you were really seeing the value of culture
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and Aaron Aaron Glenn, he didn't want to start with
a player that's older, that's expensive, that Green Bay moved
off from. They didn't know if Jordan Love was going
to be the guy. They really didn't know if Jordan
Love was going to be it. A lot of people
still aren't sure if Jordan Love's going to be it.
I think he's really good, bit reckless, but very good.
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So this has been a theme in Aaron Rodgers' career.
I don't think Aaron was difficult early in his career.
I mean, if you read the Jeff Proman book, it
really laid out that Farv was not always the most
welcoming to Aaron Rodgers. They get along now fine, probably
because both have had some you know, turbulence in their careers.
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Certainly Farv has and Aaron's It's been a little bumpy,
little bump landing in New York, a little bumpy at
the end in Green Bay with management. But I think
I think the Raiders and Chip Kelly would be a
pretty good landing spot. I will tell you that I
have had now three different people tell me over the course.
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I had two in New Orleans and one over the
last two days tell me Shadure Sanders is gaining steam
and Shadure Sanders could possibly drop to the Raiders. I
think that. I think that would be my hunch that
they need a quarterback. They didn't get good quarterback play.
They're not missing a ton. I mean, really, they're really not.
They need a running back and a quarterback and another weapon.
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There's a lot the Raiders have. I know that division
is tough, but if you're Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly
and let's say Aaron Rodgers, you're going to have to
face Mahomes and Justin Herbert and Sean Payton and bow
Nicks in the playoffs. Potentially you might as well have
six games against those teams going into the playoffs if
you landed there and succeeded. But I think over the
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course of time. We have to be completely honest. And
I know there's a lot of you know, Aaron fans.
I get it, but when you get dumped twice and
are surprised both times, maybe it's not somebody else. Aaron
has that quality and this has been shared with me
on more than one occasion, and he's certainly not the
only person that has this, but kind of needs to
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be the smartest guy in the room, and that can
be off putting to some. But I don't know if
he's going to continue his career. It doesn't matter. He's
the fifteenth best quarterback in the league right now. It
doesn't matter. The league moves on. It moved on from
Brady and Peyton Manning and Drew Brees. It's certainly going
to move on. It moved on from the wildly popular
Brett Farr and Joe Montana. It's going to move on
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just fine. But they I'm told that Aaron Glenn, knowing
the value of culture, just he made it very clear
inside that building in New York that he wanted a
clean start, fresh start. Everybody had in the same direction.
Didn't want to walk on eggshells, didn't want to have
have to deal with any unnecessary potential drama, and so
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I don't know where they're going. They're not going to
go get Sam Darnold. I doubt that, But I've said
this before. It may not be the strongest NFL draft
in the first round for quarterbacks, but I do think
Kyle McCord from Syracuse or Riley Leonard are really interesting players.
Riley Leonard had a very good Senior Bowl. I've had
multiple people they really like Kyle McCord from Syracuse. They
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see as a as a starting quarterback in the NFL.
But that is the news on Aaron Rodgers as we
get ready for pre Super Bowl. You know, it's interesting.
I like Kansas City in this game. But you know
I say this without a ton of conviction. I just
there's two numbers. I like a lot. Mahomes is eight
to zero against Vic Fangio, and Andy Reid is thirty
three and seven off of buy And the four best
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players for the Chiefs have all They've all been in
this game, and several of them have been many times.
And I like the experience in this spot. But Philadelphia
does have a better accumulation of talent. I don't think
anybody denies that, but I think the eagles number one
defense somewhat is built on the fact that they faced
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a lot of bad quarterbacks. The AFC is much better
at the top. Whereas the Chiefs faced Lamar Jackson and
Josh Allen and Justin Herbert twice and Bo Nicks and
Sean Payton twice and C. J. Stroud and Joe Burrow
and beat Kirk Cousins early when he was good. You know,
the Eagles faced the New York Giants offense twice and
lost to Kirk Cousins and the Saints and Cleveland Jaggs,
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Carolinas Steelers, Dallas with Cooper Rush. I don't think Philadelphia
faced as many good quarterbacks in my opinion, and as
many good coaches as the Chiefs defense did. I think
the Chiefs on average face better coaches and better quarterbacks.
Although you know, both teams faced Kirk Cousins, Philadelphia lost
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to him. Both teams faced Joe Burrow, but Kansas City
beat Kirk Cousins, who was pretty good when both those
teams got a shot at him. So not that the
Eagles defense isn't good, but my takeaway is if you
had the fifth best defense in the NFL and you're
playing in the AFC in your face, and Lamar and
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Josh and Herbert a couple of times, and Stroud and
Nicks and Burrow and Kirk Cousins when he was in
really good shape, and some good coaching. That's a handful.
So I think it's a close game. I think in
the second half the scoring gets ratcheted up and the
defense is tire out a little bit, and you'll see
some really big time plays. But I think you're going
to get a classic super Bowl, super Bowl fifty nine.
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