June 4, 2025 • 41 mins
Covino & Rich dive into the Tom Thibodeau being fired by the Knicks? The show debates the big news out of New York. 'SHAQ DIESEL TRIVIA' brings the boom & they look up MJ's draft! Plus, a state title winning athlete gets stripped for mimicking a star's celebration!
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Thank you for putting up with us. We got Shacked
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Shack Whack Diesel. Stick around for that. And now we're
talking Tom Thibodeau, your thoughts. First, we let's go bro
(01:02):
can'sy live from the Fox Sports Radio studio.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
You know that.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
And if you want to play Shock Diesel Trivia, if
you want to get a head start. Eight seven seven
nine nine on Fox. But there's angles here, buddy boy,
It's it's not cut and dry, like how could they
ever get rid of Tom Tibbadeu.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I call hi Tibbodau. You call Hi Tibbadau. Didn't our
very own Rob Parker go on a rant the other day,
Oh he did.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It was a nice battle, and everyone here at Fox
Sports Radio said, yo, it's one of Rob's crazy takes
because he was saying, I was saying that once they
beat the Celtics, new slate, clean slate, there on in,
expectations changed. Now they're expected to win, They're expected to
go all the way. Karl Anthony Towns, they need lots
(01:50):
of moves. It's a failure of a season, fire Thibideaux,
because if you didn't win, and you couldn't beat the Pacers,
who nobody talked about all year, then what are we doing?
And then Kelvin was basically saying, you know, I look
at it completely different.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
No one expected a whole lot.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
From the Knicks, and they exceeded expectations. They're in great
position with Brunson, they got their guy Karl Anthony Towns
that they went further than anyone would have thought, and
you have to say, man, what a successful season even
though they lost. I mean, they went to the Eastern
Conference finals for the first time since the late nineties.
(02:33):
So Kelvin was saying, hey, I look at it like
they did great this season, and Ron Parker was saying, no, man,
failure because they didn't win. Well, you gotta ask yourself.
Maybe the old famous Giannis clip where he talks about
is it failure if you don't make it all the way?
Because someone said is it failure? And he had some
beautiful statement about like, you know, no, you learn, and
(02:54):
it's not always failure. Like last year my New York Mets,
they were like, I had a great second half, Grimace,
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
The fans been crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Lindor and Pete Alonso as a Mets fan, I don't
look at last year as a failure because the Dodgers
were a better team than they won. I don't either.
It was a great run for the Mets. Lots of fun,
of fun season. But again, that's the name of the game.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
If you're a Washington.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Lethis said, the name of the game is winning. Here
we're in we're in the sport of winning. But if
you're a Washington Commanders fan and you saw it Jade
and Daniels as capable of and you made it to
the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, but you lost.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
You got smoked in the big championship game. Do you
look at last year as a failure? Well, you're basically
posing the question to the Fox Sports RADI donation of
do you believe in moral victories or not? And how
do you view a successful season?
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Is it in the Washington football team rich they tanked
to get Jaden Daniels.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Well, Danny g I'll quote you.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I'll quote you in our pre show meeting when you
were saying different organizations have different expectations and that's why
it's tougher to play there.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
In fact, recently Shaquille O'Neal was talking about how playing
in big cities don't matter anymore. With social media, you
don't need that sort of pressure that you'll get from
an LA Lakers. For example, when it comes to Giannis, right,
you don't need that. He doesn't need the Lakers. He
has social media. There's different ways big cities don't matter.
It's not the nineties anymore, so big cities, certain organizations
(04:29):
have different expectations different pressures. Example, the Knicks, the Yankees,
the Lakers. You're expected to win, and if you don't
win is considered a failure. Other teams, when you play
and make it far, that's the success. But you could
look at what the Knicks did as a major step
in the right direction. Because speaking of it, I just
mentioned Jane and Daniels, Cliff Kingsbury is quoted today as
(04:53):
saying he expects a big jump next year from the quarterback.
So now you're talking about there's an expect for the commanders.
But what the next fact that they made you and
I actually agree, right, I think that Tom Thibodau should
not have been fired because what's that players getting acclimated.
Coaches also to get acclimated to the players. No, I'll
(05:15):
tell you why do this his first year with Karl
Anthony Towns.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I disagree. Brunston had his back.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
If you missed Brunton talking about Thibodeau just after the
it was right after the loss he was asked a
question about Thibodeau's future with the next take a listen.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
You talked about the confidence. Obviously, I feel like nobody
takes more criticism than Tom and this team obviously has
turned around during his tenure. Do you kind of feel
that going forward he's the same guy theft you, guys,
the rest of the life at next level?
Speaker 7 (05:45):
This is Is that a real question right now? You
just asked me if I believe that, if he's the
right guy.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yes, thanks, guys, Okay, don't you want to keep your
star player happy. A lot of these big stars do
not have the patience with these reporters lately. But now
that turns out to be a hell of a question.
That's a hell of a question. That's why I got
to let a reporter do his job. Let reporters report.
Speaker 8 (06:09):
Another thing, guys, is the note the internet cannot figure
out who asked the question. Me and Jason Stewart were
looking in all of these articles. We found just say
a reporter scoops callah. We can't figure out who actually
asked it. It was a money question.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I don't know it really was a money question, because
look at it now it turns out to be a
major story here on Fox Sports Radio and for the
New York Knicks.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
If the don't want us to take credit help people
with Steve Cavino.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I'll take the credit Steve Cavino posed the question, now,
Bronson's the star and future of the New York Knicks.
They have their guy as Kelvin Washington. I believe he
said he's not perfect, but he's the guy and he
proved that. Don't you want to keep him happy? And
don't you want to give Thibodeau a little time to
adjust to the new stars that are also on the team,
(06:56):
like the Karl Anthony Townses of the world, Like if
we got to give these players, we make excuses for
players acclimating in their first year with the team, and
in every fifty bad move and bad shot and bad
foul they make, we're not going to give coaches any
grace at all when they had success with his team.
I think it's it's a shame that he got fired.
I think it's an easy scapegoat and an easy finger
(07:18):
to point at because he's the coach. So that's my
feelings on it. Again, the furthest they've gone since nineteen
ninety nine. You had La Trell, Spreewell and John Starks.
You had all these old Knicks there cheering on the
team because there hasn't been this much excitement, and you
fire the coach.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
How does that not feel weird to you?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Sometimes someone can only bring you so far, and then
you got to go in and say, oh, so you
think you understand this? I do, okay, I think that maybe, yeah,
maybe Jalen Brunson is a good team guy and he's like,
that's our coach. I got you know, like, how many
times has someone said to you, Hey, what do you
think of this guy or this one because you're a
(08:01):
good guy, Like, oh, they're great, and then when they
get let go, you're like, man, they weren't that great
because you're just being a good team player. Anytime a
coach gets fired or coaches on the hot seat, every
player is like, yo, we got coaches back. What is
he supposed to say? Yeah, he's all right, we could
probably do better with someone else. Tom Thibodeau, let me
(08:21):
just read this has a reputation for being ultered, demanding,
and intense, which has led many players that have played
for him to express dislike. In recent NBA polls.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Oh my god. In recent NBA.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Polls, he has been voted as the coach players would
least want to play for.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
One of the main reasons demanding is New York, New
York is demanding. One of the want for this perception
is the high pressure style and his ten.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
New York is high pressure. Don't you want to coach?
That mention the style of the city, and just.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
Makes his players practice really hard, like they get worn
out by it. No, it's I mean, it's a good
thing if you wait, if you look.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I understand how he worked the bench, was was criticized
during his playoff rotation. His rotation was questioned, and I
get that, and adjustments were made, but by the way,
no one else was criticized just to say his hairline
is that what you say?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But are you? Aren't you vain? I mean his hairline
is suspect.
Speaker 8 (09:22):
I wouldn't even call it a line. It's more like
a hair it's a squint to see his quote.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I don't even know what this means. His gruff demeanor.
This guy's got a gruff demeanor. But New York has
a gruff demeanor because.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
They expect a lot.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
And man, I don't know. Maybe these knicks are softer
than we thought.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
This has got to be more to it behind the
scenes with the owner especially, We've we've been told for
how many years now that Dolan is pretty incompetent as
an owner. He had to have rubbed somebody the wrong way,
because I get your point Rich about how sometimes you
need a new voice, you need another guy to bring
you over the hump. But it's not like they went
to the Eastern Conference two years in a row here
(10:03):
and just can't get to the finals.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
They just turned it around.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 9 (10:08):
To me, it makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I'm with you.
Speaker 9 (10:10):
I feel like that story makes them look soft.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
He's too tough on you.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Get out of here, right, You're saying all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You're like, get out of here, Rob, and he turns
out being right.
Speaker 9 (10:19):
No, I don't think I mean, is he's right that
they did it, But I don't think it was the
right choice for the Knicks. You get a brand new
Carl Anthony Towns and you get to the finals, to
get to the conference finals.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Every year you've gone further. I don't know what else
you're supposed to do.
Speaker 9 (10:32):
And like Ben Stiller, big fan of the Knicks, tweeted,
like he put us back on the map. The Knicks
were nobody's. Now you're talking about the Knicks like you
used to talk about the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
The coolest thing Nicks had since Coney. Yeah, last fun
time in the garden when he came.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
To the well. There was a season or two with Carmelo,
that's true.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, yeah, Carmelo two. Wait to forget the Syracuse guy. No,
I mean we were there for that, but it.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Was Carmelo, it wasn't Nicks.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
True. So what are your thoughts, Tom Thibodeau fired on
his day off? That does suck. You can get fired
on your day off after again, five seasons, five winning
seasons with the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You know again. You're the first guy, Steve Cavino. Yeah,
you're the first guy, well, to do a lot of things.
You the first got to break about your little league prowess. Yeah,
you're the first guy to never turn off a baseball game.
You're the first guy to talk about a boring fight.
You're the first guy for a lot of things. But
you're the first guy to talk about how styles make fights.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Styles make fights. Have you ever thought that perhaps that
applies to everything in sports? Yeah? In life?
Speaker 7 (11:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Have you ever thought about maybe the style of coaching
doesn't mix with this this? Yes, what I'm like, it's
got to be.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
It has to be. That's what I'm thinking too.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
But that's also shocking to me because you want that
gritty toughness out of your New York team, like you're gritty,
tough New York City subway grimy team is going to
cry about a tough coach and they can't get past
the Indiana Pacers old school. You're a Yankees fan, I'll
give you a Yankee example. It shows to me that
these guys are way softer than I thought. Let me
(12:18):
be cut that's how I feel. Let me be condescending
for a second, which I'm good at. Yeah, I'll go Yankee.
Since that's your strength. You got Yankee superpowers. Give me
a hard ass Yankee coach historically manager Loop Andell, like
Loop Andell kicking dirt players like you know, really getting
(12:40):
into always mad. And then on the flip of it,
give me a laid back, just chilling type of manager,
made back chill. Yeah, very composed. You don't think that
perhaps a Loop Panella or maybe even like a Billy
Martin fired up coach wouldn't have with those nineties two
(13:01):
thousand Yankees teams.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Maybe, but you also gave.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
This dude one year to vibe with your new star
one year and look they went pretty far. I mean,
I know, I know it was reality, but it was
reality based. It was fiction based on reality, reality based
on fiction. The winning Time Lakers documentary on HBO that
Danny we both love.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
Yeah it was great, was canceled.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
But a lot of people were saying, oh, it's very exaggerated.
But if you remember the coach before pat Riley that
got in the bike accident, wasn't the sentiment that, like,
they got so much talent, but yeah, he's really not
the guy, so like they like it was it almost
felt like they were with him.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
But the minute day of the.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Opportunity, it's like put in pat Riley and then it
was like, why this works. Maybe he just wasn't the guy,
too tough for the Knicks. So maybe if we get
a little softy pants to be the coach, the Knicks
will be happy and they'll win. Now I don't get it, Westead, Right, Yeah,
well that's what I was. Now we go to your
(14:02):
phone calls, think.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Back to that show, and I know it was not
completely factual, but it was based on, you know, a
true story. Obviously, Rich the Players insurrection had a lot
to do with the problems that was going on with
that team, and it was Magic Johnson finally stepping up
to be a leader and pat Riley punching his fist
(14:24):
through a chalkboard to get everybody, all the players to
stop being soft little babies.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
That's true. I mean, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Rich the manager or coach has to match their personalities
or has to vibe with the personalities on the team,
and sometimes it's not.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
A good mix. You ever date someone, but I think
his record proves otherwise.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
You ever date someone and you're like, yeah, we get along,
sex is good, We enjoy some of the same things
we enjoy, you know, we get along.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
But there's a party that's like she's not the one.
She's not the one, Like yeah, yeah, we.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Got a good physical connection, like she's cool, Like yeah,
but it's not like where's the fireworks?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
And I think the Knicks are like the top. Tabodeau
wasn't the guy missing something.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Sometimes you feel that way, but you work well together,
Like I felt that you weren't the one when I
met you.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Look well, we worked together nice. See what I mean.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
You're not supposed to be in love with your coach.
You're supposed are you supposed to be beffs.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
With the guy.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I wish you you're supposed to be honestly hold on.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
That was very rude because when I saw you, I
heard Mariachi's playing, I was I was completely and I said,
I have met my Mexican soul man. For the record,
I was completely joking. I was just taking a cheap
shot at Rich. But I've worked for people that I
didn't necessarily love, but they found a way to bring
out the best in me. So therefore we won together.
It's not about how much you like somebody, is do
(15:51):
they bring the best out in you? And I thought
he did a pretty decent job, considering every years a
new team. It's his fifth year with this team, but
again some new stars year. They made a lot of
big moves. Further Dave Gonson's ninety nine Your Thoughts eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox. That's our side of it.
Take your phone calls and some Shack Diesel trivia we
(16:12):
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and expectations are high in New York New York Knicks,
(17:36):
is that a failure of a season?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Is that why you fire Tom Thibodeau or do you
say yo?
Speaker 10 (17:41):
Man?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
The guy had one year with Karl Anthony Towns. He
had five winning seasons. Four of the five seasons in
the playoffs, took the team far. No reason to fire
the guy. Grab But if you're not in love, he's.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Too hard for the big bad New York Knicks. If
you're not in love while you're sticking around with this person.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Well they're moving on. I agree with Danny G. I
don't think it was a player issue, even though he
has that reputation. I mean, he's the he was voted last,
and I think something else.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Players want to play.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
In the kool aid?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
And is it personal or is it just business? What
do you think about his firing?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Pretty sudden, pretty pretty shocking, actually, considering how far they
went this year.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Let's say, out of Jake and Indy, what's up?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Considering a different bounce could have changed the whole trajectory
of the of the series.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I mean you're right about that.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I mean that that doink, the eight foot doink really
uh set the tone for this guy's career. All right,
let's uh, we'll take a few phone calls about Thibodeau
and then we'll play Iron Mike Trivia actually shacked Diesel
Trivia today. Mike's got the day off? Oh Man, all right,
shack Diesel. I saw him in the lobby, Jake and Indy,
what's up?
Speaker 7 (18:50):
Man?
Speaker 10 (18:50):
Thibodeau did the same thing in Chicago. He ran a
bunch of guys into the ground. But that's what he
was known for. The guys that he trusted. He gave
all the minutes too, and you to prove yourself. Same
thing with New York. He ran a couple guys, seven
guys I think was the seven guys he trusted in
the playoffs, and he asked a lot of those guys.
(19:10):
That's what he did in Chicago. That's what he did
in New York. Is it premature? Absolutely? They should not
have fired him. And as a Bulls fan, I would
take him over Donovan in an absolute New York minute.
Thanks guys, appreciate you and Jack.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
That was the criticism and when the nick stepped off
the bench, they stepped up and they were like, well,
why didn't he do that?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Sooner?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
You're paying these guys, the guys you trust a lot
of money for reason. This is when it counts.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Sometimes I think about connection too, right, Like I just
got connecting with the guys on and off the court.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Like guy was Sam. You were saying that he has
a reputation, he's not married. He's a single guy.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Wasn't there story where when he was in Chicago he
had a milk create with a TV on it, fairyliner.
Speaker 8 (19:53):
And fayre bones apartment like you know, not like art
on the wall and you know, a lot of sophisticated stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
He's just basketball, peer and simple and maybe that doesn't
connect with these young dudes in New York who knows.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
And really quick rich. Just so we get it right,
because I know we weren't around for this, we weren't
alive yet. But it was Jack McKinney who had the
bicycle accident. Oh yeah, you know, I was gonna say yeah,
and West had took over for him, and then pat
Riley took over for him.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
That's what it was, Okay, Yeah, eight seven seven ninety
nine on Fox whilst we got to move on.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I was just a twinkle in my dad's anyway, I
want to play for a sweeking.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Now or what let's go, We're ready?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Sure again, We're lying from the Fox Sports Radio studio.
Remember after the show, the podcast goes up. If you
miss any of the show today, you want to hear
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Speaker 1 (20:40):
Well, it's funny to say.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
The startup thing because something like as dumb as that, yeah,
got so much feedback. And every clip I'm now watching
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Speaker 7 (21:03):
And now it's time for Shack Diesel Trivia.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
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Diesel basketball trivia?
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What he said?
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Shack Diesel basketball trivia.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
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Speaker 1 (21:47):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (21:48):
That was a sad goodbye from CNT. They almost crying. No,
I saw you wipe in your tears.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
You didn't try to hold it backs like Rich Davis
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He got one? Yeah?
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You gave me one of your shoes back in the
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I put an air freshener in it right when he gave.
Speaker 10 (22:22):
It to me.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Hey, Shak, what do you think about people that say
ESPN is going to ruin your show? I think you're crazy.
We got a new host and everything. It's me Charles,
Ernie Kenny and Mickey Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
Yeah, is watching. What you think about the big headline
today with TIBs being fired?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I say, if it don't work out on ESPN, I'm
I'm the coature of the Knicks. Coature in the Knicks.
They need a big man like me, shack smack them around.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
One of the few teams you didn't play for. That's right,
all right, let's meet the contestants. Ten time winner Rich
Davis right over there.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 7 (22:53):
Four time winner in the house, spotty boy.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Oh, I thought that was a Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 7 (22:57):
Let's do it leader in the clubhouse.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Fourteen time winner Dan Byer is not here today.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Moncey Belanos is sitting in Oh I like Manzy and
looking to win a C and R stainless Deeal Swiggy
on our studio line, say what's up to?
Speaker 7 (23:10):
Jay in Greensboro, North Carolina? Who up?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Jake?
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Hey Jake? What's up?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Ella's love the show here?
Speaker 7 (23:16):
What's going on? Man? Thank you?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Jay?
Speaker 7 (23:18):
What do you do for a living there in North Cakilaca? Ah?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Oh dude, look at you.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Very cool.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
It's a real hero.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
All right, here are the rules for Shack Diesel trivia.
The first contestant with two correct answers is the champ.
If there's a tie, we have a tie breaker question.
Your name is your buzzer, but you do have to
wait until all three possible answers are read. If there's
two wrong answers in a row, we move on to
the next question. Are you ready, let's go, let's get
it home. All right, let's got this big arst little
party started. Who was the second leading scorer of the
(23:47):
OKC Thunder this season? Hey, Chet holmgrom b, Jaylen Williams
or Ce Alex Crusoe, second leading.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Score Mancy Moncey. I'm gonna go be Jaylen Williams. Yeah wow, Yeah,
am just came to play like that. Twenty one point
six points.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
On the board, and yeah, Jay, you got to be
quick to say your name there and nothing to lose.
You're not punished if you answer in correct. You're messing around,
all right? Round two?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
All right, Round two?
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I'm a question that's I'm sorry. How much how many
did chat? It was close?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Right?
Speaker 5 (24:19):
No, Chat averaged close to seventeen I think or fifteen
and Williams twenty one points six.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Okay, Caruso about eight or nine?
Speaker 7 (24:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
All right? Round two?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
What was that one's quarter of saying about living simple? Hey,
the simple life is for suckers. Complicated has given me wealth.
B The only man who truly has a simple life
is Chuck when he's in the casino or c. If
you don't stick to simplicity, you'll die a horrible death.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Kay, Jay, go be no.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
Rich Rich for the steal. See yes, sir, right, that's
the great job. Nice?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Thanks, all right, shock diesens.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
All right, So Moncey and Rich both on the board
as we moved around three. He's not being petty or anything.
Isaiah Thomas has Michael Jordan ranked as the eighth greatest
baseball great greatest basketball player. What year did the Bulls
draft MJ A eighty three, B eighty four or C
eighty five?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeay j eighty four, Yeah eighty four?
Speaker 5 (25:28):
NBA draft at the Garney's, sir, the Madison Square Garden.
So three way time, Moncey, Rich and Jay all on
the board as we moved around four.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
All right, Round four?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
What player did the Lakers trade through the Hornets for
the rights to Kobe Bryant? A. Elden Campbell, B Trump,
Kersey or C Lottie Dvak Rich.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
Well, go to the caller, all right, j for the win?
What's that Jay today? No, Damn Rich for the win.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Let's get into b.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
You're both losers.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Why do I think that was not the answer?
Speaker 7 (26:11):
All right? So still a three way tie. Round Round five?
Speaker 10 (26:15):
Here go?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Which of these, by the way, is there any pizza left?
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Pizza focus, Pepperoni, you got me and you meat pizza sausage,
Sam like sausage here that Which of these NBA players
never won Rookie of the Year Ajuan be chasing Kidd
or see Damian Lillard?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Rich again, j.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I might go on to guess to say a game?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yep, yeah, and you know why he was in the
same draft as who? Michael Jordan? Correct?
Speaker 4 (26:57):
I don't know?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Four?
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Thanks Phil, Thanks Bill Belichick?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Was it was it that draft?
Speaker 10 (27:02):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Wasn't that draft? Sam Bouie Alajuan?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Then Jordan's yeah, we're looking it up right now. You
tell us I know more about basketball than anyone else
in this trium.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
I mean we're not nineteen yeah think yeah, we're not
experts on that year, right, that.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Draft was well anyway, guys, I got things to do
it ESPN can go now go to Disney. Pray me
and Chuck. Yeah, we're in a Disney Prey Pizza Me, Chuck,
goofy Donald, you got things to do.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
He gets enough free Papa John's pizza. All right, guys,
Oh your pick really quick? For Thursday, dude, for the
finals Frazers. Wow, all right, I said for Thursday, not
for the whole Oh god, okay, letter guys.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
By shack shack, thanks are stopping by.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
It was it was Sam Bouie and you know they
can never live that down, correct And in Portland and
then Alajuan Olajuan going ahead of.
Speaker 9 (27:54):
Jordan's was the number one was the number one overall pick,
and then Sam Bouie, then Michael Draft.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I remember, you know, I was a little that was
I was in diapers.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
But I remember people saying they couldn't blame the rockets
were taking a Lajoan. It's a lajo one. But it
was the Booye pick that Everyone's like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
How did you do that?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Booie?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yes, Fooey. Oh, by the way, I was just giving
bro huks to shack him.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
The Hall we didn't congratulate Ja. Jay gonna mail that
swiggy to North Carolina. Four Oh congratulations.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Brother, Hey to go, Bud, Where to go?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, Jay's gonna mail his sexy fireman calendar. Tomase Yes,
put out.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Fires for the record.
Speaker 10 (28:36):
For the record, Fred put the red Yankee hat on
the map.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Dude, That's what I'm saying. And no mention. He got
no mention, no mention. Spike Lee got all the credit. Man.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
So anyway, thank you j congrats and we got more prizes. Well,
every day we give away prizes. We'll be giving away
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twenty second at Circa. So hope to see their details
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So rs VP at Covino on Red, this is your invite.
Spot wants to know he orders enough nerves for the
past rounds, right, enough pizzas, enough slides.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Spells, cheese and pizza hor hores do versus Horres.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
Rich needs an estimate because he always buys all of
us to drink at these events.
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Cut of the pizza. It's gonna all be like thirty
six slices and one pizza.
Speaker 7 (29:35):
All right.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Now, I got a question for you, guys.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Have you heard the story of Clara Adams state title
winner from Selinas?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Anything for you? Salinas, California, Saleina. You know, it's a
great story and I want you to set it up
and tell everyone.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
But folks, let's go to Manci for an update, and
then we'll wrap with the the story of all stories.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
That story Krino's about to tell you is we'll fire
you up. It'll make you mad, all right.
Speaker 9 (30:00):
I know the breaking news today was Tom Thibodeau being
relieved of his head coaching duties. But apparently it's raining
at Dodger Stadium, so that's breaking news.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Scattered showers going through the area right now.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I just look, yeah, yeah, I know, think right there, Warmfield, Dallas,
rain rein it in down.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, Okay, that's sorry, Sorry distracting here. Hoavier rains Thiboteau taking.
Speaker 9 (30:23):
The Knicks to their first East Finals in twenty five years,
making the playoffs in four or five years, leading the
next to fifty plus win seasons for the first time
since nineteen ninety. What's crazy is that New York actually
extended him this past summer. He was supposed to stay
with the season with the team through the twenty twenty
seven to twenty twenty eight season.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Obviously not anymore.
Speaker 9 (30:40):
Finishes his time in New York with the fourth most
wins by a coach in franchise history.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Does he get all that money? I don't Is it
all guaranteed? He doesn't seem like one of the type
of guys that would want to sit on his butt
the way Sam described.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Sure, I agree, but I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Javier Halea our weather man, same champion.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah yeah, I hope you get some money.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
NFL New c J. Stroud, Texans quarterback.
Speaker 9 (31:05):
He's been sitting out of throwing portions of OTA's due
to what was initially believed to be a pictorial a
pictoral issue, but today Demiko Ryans, a coach, said that
it's just general soreness.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Do what you want with that information.
Speaker 9 (31:16):
In the baseball world, Corbyn Burns diamondback say is going
on the fifteen day il.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
With elbow inflammation.
Speaker 9 (31:22):
Yankees closer Luke Weaver expected him as four to six
weeks because of a hamstring injury. And lastly, here at
the French Open, guys on the men's side, American and
twelve seed Tommy Paul tried really hard, but number two
seed Carlo Alcarez defeated him in straight sets to advance
to the semi finals. Fellow American and fifteen seed Francis
Tioffo also lost his quarterfinals match, So no more American
(31:43):
men at the French Open.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Back to you guys, thank you may the weather. And
by the way, Manzi, I saw Shaq in the hall.
He was asking about you. Excuse me, I'll be back, okay, yeah, yeah,
he had all these questions about Monzi.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah, something's going on. Yeah, that's what I heard.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
So Rich, Danny g Sam, Monci, Spotty's on the videos
at Covino and Rich, there's a story from Selinas, California.
I'll set it up and let you think about it,
let it simmer, and we'll take your phone calls. Clara Adams,
a student at Selena's running the four hundred meter and
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she runs it like fifty three point twenty four seconds
and she's a state finalist, breaks the records, and she
celebrates by taking a fire extinguished.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
She wins the state title. Yeah, she wins the state title.
This is big. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
They bring her a fire extinguisher, Her coaches and her dad,
they're all in on it. So it's not something she
did rogue and she's being crazy. This was thought out.
And she sprays her cleats down because they're so hot,
they're so fast, she's so fast, paying homage to Morris Green,
the American Sprint icon. You've seen that clip before where
(32:59):
the dude takes his shoes off and he hostes him
down with the fire extinguisher. Well, all the people there
seem to get a big kick out of it, the cif,
the officials in charge there even seem to get a
kick out of it. But then all of a sudden,
they disqualify her for being unsportsmanlike with her celebration. They
stripping her of her title, and this becomes a story
(33:23):
and we're wondering, now you get mad at a kid
if they're just doing what the pros do. This is
an iconic moment, and it's become such a story that
even Maurice Green, the American sprinter that's known for doing this.
He's like, YEO, come on, you gotta give her her
title back. That's ridiculous. You got this young woman in
tears and you'll hear it trying to just plead her
(33:46):
case of like I was just celebrating and honestly, it
was so not a big deal. Her family comment on it. Yeah,
let's take a listen to her dad, David Adams.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Was she blue the fire singer shirt? The opponents were gone?
That was our moment of celebration and CIF officials made
that about them. The crowd went crazy. They loved it.
The booth see if booth went crazy, they loved it.
Speaker 11 (34:09):
But those few guys and those jackets, they took offense
to it, didn't like it, and they made a decision
based on emotions.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
They stripped her of an accomplishment. Now, what do you
think about this? And the bigger question is when you
see little kids bat flip? When you see little kids do,
what the pros do? They throwed a bunch of like
high school and college kids now on that. Yeah, there
was a clip just this week where you know, there
was a big bat flip and I was like, yo,
(34:36):
there's always an issue. There is this celebration. Is this
unsportsman like when the kids are just mimicking what they
see on TV from the stars? Is that wrong or understandable?
We'll take your phone calls and your feedback. Eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox we got more Covino and
Rich on Fox Sports Radio. Next, Yo, my feet are
(35:04):
on fire. Where's the fire extinguisher? Boom tough acting to
Acting by the way, Props to Saquon Barkley reenacting that
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Immediately after that, it was announced a Saquon Barkley would
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the man. Before we get to the feedback on this
terrible story about this girl Clara Adams who got heard
(36:14):
stay title ripped away.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
You're the king of this. You know, when someone tells
you something, you're like, I knew that? Wait or did I?
I'm the king of Bongo bomb me.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
You you are the king of If someone drops a
fun fact, You're like, I knew that, and then you
convince yourself like did.
Speaker 10 (36:28):
I know that?
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Or you're right because I'm like, I definitely knew that.
I knew that.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Buddy Rob in Texas head us up. He listens every
day down in San Antonio and he goes, did you
know that Kobe was traded for Laddie Devak And I'm like, yeah,
of course I did. And I blanked or did I not?
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Did I?
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Like, you know, you're not sure once you hear the answer.
When you hit the answer, I believe there's a party
that I can't believe.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
You didn't know that. I go quite of course I
knew that.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
I think the other interesting part of our job. We
read so many sports articles and watch so many sports
real and clips and everything daily that there is so.
Speaker 7 (37:03):
Much in our heads. Sometimes I feel like my head
is going to explode.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
If people saw the text message thread between me, you
and Coveno just sending each other stuff day and night.
Speaker 7 (37:12):
Yeah and on weekends too, it never saw We're open
seven days a week.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
No doubt. But uh, thank you for working hard as
you do, Danny, And I think I knew that.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Of course I did, didn't I And speaking of working
a lot, Rich and I do a Patreon every day
Covino and Rich on Patreon, Patreon dot com, slash Covino
on rich and if you want to hear the uncensored
version of us and I'm today's Patreon. We talked about
how hard it is as a parent sometimes when your
kid doesn't make the team, or when your kid is
(37:40):
treated unfairly by the coaches or buy an organization. That's rough,
because whatever your kid goes through, you go through as
a parent. That's really really tough to deal with. Luckily,
my daughter made the cheer team last night. But you
were saying some of her friends, some of her friends
didn't And my goodness, that's so tough because that's their
soul feeling like if your buddy didn't make the team
you were on, you're like like then you have to
(38:00):
be all weird, like you can't really talk about it.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Like yeah, the football, I mean, yeah, what's up?
Speaker 4 (38:04):
Man?
Speaker 1 (38:05):
But thank god because I would have had to deal
with all that.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Imagine how Clara adams dad feels when she has to
defend when he has to defend his daughter. Take a
listen to Dave Adams defending Clara. She was stripped of
her state title.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
When she blew the fire singer sht. The opponents were gone.
Speaker 11 (38:23):
That was our moment of celebration and cif officials made
that about them.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
The crowd went crazy. They loved it. The booth see
booth went crazy. They loved it. But those few guys
and those jackets.
Speaker 11 (38:35):
They took offense to it, didn't like it, and they
made a decision based on emotions.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
So Dave is so disappointed and feels so bad for
his daughter. He was in on this celebration. This is
out of Selina's California state title. Clara Adams ran the
four hundred meter fifty three twenty four and was disqualified
when she took the fire extinguisher to put out her
cleats in celeb Yeah, she was so fast. Her shoes
(39:03):
are on fire now again. Even the guy that's known
for it, Maurice Green, the American sprinter the Icon, was like, Yo,
come on man, I'm famous for doing that. I was honored.
You gotta give her back her title. She's crying to
the public, but you know that's my title. That's all
I want back. I have the final way to end.
She meant no disrespect. It was just a celebration. The
final way to end this the positive. Now we know
(39:24):
who Clara Adams is. Congratulations she's getting some love on
sorts as well as other I'm sure sports that work.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
So props to Clara Adams. When you celebrate your victory.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
No one, Yeah, could take that away from her, could
be no, Okay, the moment she won, she knows, she
wanted everyone know she won.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Now. I think she is an example of robbery, right.
They took this from her.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
But even when someone wins and they don't deserve it,
whether it be the Astros, or Barry Bonds with home
runs or Reggie Bush flipping into the end zone with
his heisman and people, if the moment happened, I can't
unsee it. This girl won the race. You can't undo that.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
She one just because if they want to strip this
from her, f them. She deserves it.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
She knows she won, okay, And that was my problem
with the Astros. Remember when I said, like, you know
they won, they cheated, but guess what they got to do?
Celebrate and you can't take that away. Gooder, But you
can't take that moment away. You can't so won even
though the state title was stripped again disqualified for unsportsmanlike conduct,
I guess. And the second question is when you see
(40:27):
little kids doing what the big leaguers do, can you
be mad at them for that? No, If a kid
in literally hits a double and starts doing like the show,
hey wave right, it's annoying, But what do you expect
or the mets rolling of the hands into the fists,
And isn't that the entertainment factor and value of what
we want out of sports? Sometimes that's fun side of it.
That's why the Savannah Bananas are selling out stadiums right,
(40:49):
and the Marlins and Rockies had one hundred people at
the gadio, so how could you be mad at a
kid or disqualifying or take their title away.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Listen, we'll continue tomorrow. Until then, have a great night.
Are we even there? Maybe in the Promised Land? Goodbye, guys,
Hey, thanks for listening to the Covino and Rich Podcast.
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Thank you for putting up with us. We got Shacked
Diesel Trivia this hour, giving away prizes, multiple choice, keeping
it easy, breezy, so Shack Diesel will be here Broke
Shack Whack Diesel. Stick around for that. And now we're
talking Tom Thibodeau, your thoughts. First, we let's go bro
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can'sy live from the Fox Sports Radio studio.
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You know that.
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And if you want to play Shock Diesel Trivia, if
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nine nine on Fox. But there's angles here, buddy boy,
It's it's not cut and dry, like how could they
ever get rid of Tom Tibbadeu.
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I call hi Tibbodau. You call Hi Tibbadau. Didn't our
very own Rob Parker go on a rant the other day,
Oh he did.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It was a nice battle, and everyone here at Fox
Sports Radio said, yo, it's one of Rob's crazy takes
because he was saying, I was saying that once they
beat the Celtics, new slate, clean slate, there on in,
expectations changed. Now they're expected to win, They're expected to
go all the way. Karl Anthony Towns, they need lots
(01:50):
of moves. It's a failure of a season, fire Thibideaux,
because if you didn't win, and you couldn't beat the Pacers,
who nobody talked about all year, then what are we doing?
And then Kelvin was basically saying, you know, I look
at it completely different.
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No one expected a whole lot.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
From the Knicks, and they exceeded expectations. They're in great
position with Brunson, they got their guy Karl Anthony Towns
that they went further than anyone would have thought, and
you have to say, man, what a successful season even
though they lost. I mean, they went to the Eastern
Conference finals for the first time since the late nineties.
(02:33):
So Kelvin was saying, hey, I look at it like
they did great this season, and Ron Parker was saying, no, man,
failure because they didn't win. Well, you gotta ask yourself.
Maybe the old famous Giannis clip where he talks about
is it failure if you don't make it all the way?
Because someone said is it failure? And he had some
beautiful statement about like, you know, no, you learn, and
(02:54):
it's not always failure. Like last year my New York Mets,
they were like, I had a great second half, Grimace,
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
The fans been crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Lindor and Pete Alonso as a Mets fan, I don't
look at last year as a failure because the Dodgers
were a better team than they won. I don't either.
It was a great run for the Mets. Lots of fun,
of fun season. But again, that's the name of the game.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
If you're a Washington.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Lethis said, the name of the game is winning. Here
we're in we're in the sport of winning. But if
you're a Washington Commanders fan and you saw it Jade
and Daniels as capable of and you made it to
the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, but you lost.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
You got smoked in the big championship game. Do you
look at last year as a failure? Well, you're basically
posing the question to the Fox Sports RADI donation of
do you believe in moral victories or not? And how
do you view a successful season?
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Is it in the Washington football team rich they tanked
to get Jaden Daniels.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Well, Danny g I'll quote you.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I'll quote you in our pre show meeting when you
were saying different organizations have different expectations and that's why
it's tougher to play there.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
In fact, recently Shaquille O'Neal was talking about how playing
in big cities don't matter anymore. With social media, you
don't need that sort of pressure that you'll get from
an LA Lakers. For example, when it comes to Giannis, right,
you don't need that. He doesn't need the Lakers. He
has social media. There's different ways big cities don't matter.
It's not the nineties anymore, so big cities, certain organizations
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have different expectations different pressures. Example, the Knicks, the Yankees,
the Lakers. You're expected to win, and if you don't
win is considered a failure. Other teams, when you play
and make it far, that's the success. But you could
look at what the Knicks did as a major step
in the right direction. Because speaking of it, I just
mentioned Jane and Daniels, Cliff Kingsbury is quoted today as
(04:53):
saying he expects a big jump next year from the quarterback.
So now you're talking about there's an expect for the commanders.
But what the next fact that they made you and
I actually agree, right, I think that Tom Thibodau should
not have been fired because what's that players getting acclimated.
Coaches also to get acclimated to the players. No, I'll
(05:15):
tell you why do this his first year with Karl
Anthony Towns.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I disagree. Brunston had his back.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
If you missed Brunton talking about Thibodeau just after the
it was right after the loss he was asked a
question about Thibodeau's future with the next take a listen.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
You talked about the confidence. Obviously, I feel like nobody
takes more criticism than Tom and this team obviously has
turned around during his tenure. Do you kind of feel
that going forward he's the same guy theft you, guys,
the rest of the life at next level?
Speaker 7 (05:45):
This is Is that a real question right now? You
just asked me if I believe that, if he's the
right guy.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yes, thanks, guys, Okay, don't you want to keep your
star player happy. A lot of these big stars do
not have the patience with these reporters lately. But now
that turns out to be a hell of a question.
That's a hell of a question. That's why I got
to let a reporter do his job. Let reporters report.
Speaker 8 (06:09):
Another thing, guys, is the note the internet cannot figure
out who asked the question. Me and Jason Stewart were
looking in all of these articles. We found just say
a reporter scoops callah. We can't figure out who actually
asked it. It was a money question.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I don't know it really was a money question, because
look at it now it turns out to be a
major story here on Fox Sports Radio and for the
New York Knicks.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
If the don't want us to take credit help people
with Steve Cavino.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I'll take the credit Steve Cavino posed the question, now,
Bronson's the star and future of the New York Knicks.
They have their guy as Kelvin Washington. I believe he
said he's not perfect, but he's the guy and he
proved that. Don't you want to keep him happy? And
don't you want to give Thibodeau a little time to
adjust to the new stars that are also on the team,
(06:56):
like the Karl Anthony Townses of the world, Like if
we got to give these players, we make excuses for
players acclimating in their first year with the team, and
in every fifty bad move and bad shot and bad
foul they make, we're not going to give coaches any
grace at all when they had success with his team.
I think it's it's a shame that he got fired.
I think it's an easy scapegoat and an easy finger
(07:18):
to point at because he's the coach. So that's my
feelings on it. Again, the furthest they've gone since nineteen
ninety nine. You had La Trell, Spreewell and John Starks.
You had all these old Knicks there cheering on the
team because there hasn't been this much excitement, and you
fire the coach.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
How does that not feel weird to you?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Sometimes someone can only bring you so far, and then
you got to go in and say, oh, so you
think you understand this? I do, okay, I think that maybe, yeah,
maybe Jalen Brunson is a good team guy and he's like,
that's our coach. I got you know, like, how many
times has someone said to you, Hey, what do you
think of this guy or this one because you're a
(08:01):
good guy, Like, oh, they're great, and then when they
get let go, you're like, man, they weren't that great
because you're just being a good team player. Anytime a
coach gets fired or coaches on the hot seat, every
player is like, yo, we got coaches back. What is
he supposed to say? Yeah, he's all right, we could
probably do better with someone else. Tom Thibodeau, let me
(08:21):
just read this has a reputation for being ultered, demanding,
and intense, which has led many players that have played
for him to express dislike. In recent NBA polls.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Oh my god. In recent NBA.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Polls, he has been voted as the coach players would
least want to play for.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
One of the main reasons demanding is New York, New
York is demanding. One of the want for this perception
is the high pressure style and his ten.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
New York is high pressure. Don't you want to coach?
That mention the style of the city, and just.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
Makes his players practice really hard, like they get worn
out by it. No, it's I mean, it's a good
thing if you wait, if you look.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I understand how he worked the bench, was was criticized
during his playoff rotation. His rotation was questioned, and I
get that, and adjustments were made, but by the way,
no one else was criticized just to say his hairline
is that what you say?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But are you? Aren't you vain? I mean his hairline
is suspect.
Speaker 8 (09:22):
I wouldn't even call it a line. It's more like
a hair it's a squint to see his quote.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I don't even know what this means. His gruff demeanor.
This guy's got a gruff demeanor. But New York has
a gruff demeanor because.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
They expect a lot.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
And man, I don't know. Maybe these knicks are softer
than we thought.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
This has got to be more to it behind the
scenes with the owner especially, We've we've been told for
how many years now that Dolan is pretty incompetent as
an owner. He had to have rubbed somebody the wrong way,
because I get your point Rich about how sometimes you
need a new voice, you need another guy to bring
you over the hump. But it's not like they went
to the Eastern Conference two years in a row here
(10:03):
and just can't get to the finals.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
They just turned it around.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 9 (10:08):
To me, it makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I'm with you.
Speaker 9 (10:10):
I feel like that story makes them look soft.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
He's too tough on you.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Get out of here, right, You're saying all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You're like, get out of here, Rob, and he turns
out being right.
Speaker 9 (10:19):
No, I don't think I mean, is he's right that
they did it, But I don't think it was the
right choice for the Knicks. You get a brand new
Carl Anthony Towns and you get to the finals, to
get to the conference finals.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Every year you've gone further. I don't know what else
you're supposed to do.
Speaker 9 (10:32):
And like Ben Stiller, big fan of the Knicks, tweeted,
like he put us back on the map. The Knicks
were nobody's. Now you're talking about the Knicks like you
used to talk about the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
The coolest thing Nicks had since Coney. Yeah, last fun
time in the garden when he came.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
To the well. There was a season or two with Carmelo,
that's true.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, yeah, Carmelo two. Wait to forget the Syracuse guy. No,
I mean we were there for that, but it.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Was Carmelo, it wasn't Nicks.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
True. So what are your thoughts, Tom Thibodeau fired on
his day off? That does suck. You can get fired
on your day off after again, five seasons, five winning
seasons with the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You know again. You're the first guy, Steve Cavino. Yeah,
you're the first guy, well, to do a lot of things.
You the first got to break about your little league prowess. Yeah,
you're the first guy to never turn off a baseball game.
You're the first guy to talk about a boring fight.
You're the first guy for a lot of things. But
you're the first guy to talk about how styles make fights.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Styles make fights. Have you ever thought that perhaps that
applies to everything in sports? Yeah? In life?
Speaker 7 (11:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Have you ever thought about maybe the style of coaching
doesn't mix with this this? Yes, what I'm like, it's
got to be.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
It has to be. That's what I'm thinking too.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
But that's also shocking to me because you want that
gritty toughness out of your New York team, like you're gritty,
tough New York City subway grimy team is going to
cry about a tough coach and they can't get past
the Indiana Pacers old school. You're a Yankees fan, I'll
give you a Yankee example. It shows to me that
these guys are way softer than I thought. Let me
(12:18):
be cut that's how I feel. Let me be condescending
for a second, which I'm good at. Yeah, I'll go Yankee.
Since that's your strength. You got Yankee superpowers. Give me
a hard ass Yankee coach historically manager Loop Andell, like
Loop Andell kicking dirt players like you know, really getting
(12:40):
into always mad. And then on the flip of it,
give me a laid back, just chilling type of manager,
made back chill. Yeah, very composed. You don't think that
perhaps a Loop Panella or maybe even like a Billy
Martin fired up coach wouldn't have with those nineties two
(13:01):
thousand Yankees teams.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Maybe, but you also gave.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
This dude one year to vibe with your new star
one year and look they went pretty far. I mean,
I know, I know it was reality, but it was
reality based. It was fiction based on reality, reality based
on fiction. The winning Time Lakers documentary on HBO that
Danny we both love.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
Yeah it was great, was canceled.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
But a lot of people were saying, oh, it's very exaggerated.
But if you remember the coach before pat Riley that
got in the bike accident, wasn't the sentiment that, like,
they got so much talent, but yeah, he's really not
the guy, so like they like it was it almost
felt like they were with him.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
But the minute day of the.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Opportunity, it's like put in pat Riley and then it
was like, why this works. Maybe he just wasn't the guy,
too tough for the Knicks. So maybe if we get
a little softy pants to be the coach, the Knicks
will be happy and they'll win. Now I don't get it, Westead, Right, Yeah,
well that's what I was. Now we go to your
(14:02):
phone calls, think.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Back to that show, and I know it was not
completely factual, but it was based on, you know, a
true story. Obviously, Rich the Players insurrection had a lot
to do with the problems that was going on with
that team, and it was Magic Johnson finally stepping up
to be a leader and pat Riley punching his fist
(14:24):
through a chalkboard to get everybody, all the players to
stop being soft little babies.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
That's true. I mean, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Rich the manager or coach has to match their personalities
or has to vibe with the personalities on the team,
and sometimes it's not.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
A good mix. You ever date someone, but I think
his record proves otherwise.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
You ever date someone and you're like, yeah, we get along,
sex is good, We enjoy some of the same things
we enjoy, you know, we get along.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
But there's a party that's like she's not the one.
She's not the one, Like yeah, yeah, we.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Got a good physical connection, like she's cool, Like yeah,
but it's not like where's the fireworks?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
And I think the Knicks are like the top. Tabodeau
wasn't the guy missing something.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Sometimes you feel that way, but you work well together,
Like I felt that you weren't the one when I
met you.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Look well, we worked together nice. See what I mean.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
You're not supposed to be in love with your coach.
You're supposed are you supposed to be beffs.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
With the guy.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I wish you you're supposed to be honestly hold on.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
That was very rude because when I saw you, I
heard Mariachi's playing, I was I was completely and I said,
I have met my Mexican soul man. For the record,
I was completely joking. I was just taking a cheap
shot at Rich. But I've worked for people that I
didn't necessarily love, but they found a way to bring
out the best in me. So therefore we won together.
It's not about how much you like somebody, is do
(15:51):
they bring the best out in you? And I thought
he did a pretty decent job, considering every years a
new team. It's his fifth year with this team, but
again some new stars year. They made a lot of
big moves. Further Dave Gonson's ninety nine Your Thoughts eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox. That's our side of it.
Take your phone calls and some Shack Diesel trivia we
(16:12):
got coming up. Speak so your thoughts on your thoughts
on Thibodeau. We'll play some Shack Diesel and a bunch
more coming up the number eight seven seven ninety nine
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of the game is winning. So if you don't win
and expectations are high in New York New York Knicks,
(17:36):
is that a failure of a season?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Is that why you fire Tom Thibodeau or do you
say yo?
Speaker 10 (17:41):
Man?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
The guy had one year with Karl Anthony Towns. He
had five winning seasons. Four of the five seasons in
the playoffs, took the team far. No reason to fire
the guy. Grab But if you're not in love, he's.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Too hard for the big bad New York Knicks. If
you're not in love while you're sticking around with this person.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Well they're moving on. I agree with Danny G. I
don't think it was a player issue, even though he
has that reputation. I mean, he's the he was voted last,
and I think something else.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Players want to play.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
In the kool aid?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
And is it personal or is it just business? What
do you think about his firing?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Pretty sudden, pretty pretty shocking, actually, considering how far they
went this year.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Let's say, out of Jake and Indy, what's up?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Considering a different bounce could have changed the whole trajectory
of the of the series.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I mean you're right about that.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I mean that that doink, the eight foot doink really
uh set the tone for this guy's career. All right,
let's uh, we'll take a few phone calls about Thibodeau
and then we'll play Iron Mike Trivia actually shacked Diesel
Trivia today. Mike's got the day off? Oh Man, all right,
shack Diesel. I saw him in the lobby, Jake and Indy,
what's up?
Speaker 7 (18:50):
Man?
Speaker 10 (18:50):
Thibodeau did the same thing in Chicago. He ran a
bunch of guys into the ground. But that's what he
was known for. The guys that he trusted. He gave
all the minutes too, and you to prove yourself. Same
thing with New York. He ran a couple guys, seven
guys I think was the seven guys he trusted in
the playoffs, and he asked a lot of those guys.
(19:10):
That's what he did in Chicago. That's what he did
in New York. Is it premature? Absolutely? They should not
have fired him. And as a Bulls fan, I would
take him over Donovan in an absolute New York minute.
Thanks guys, appreciate you and Jack.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
That was the criticism and when the nick stepped off
the bench, they stepped up and they were like, well,
why didn't he do that?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Sooner?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
You're paying these guys, the guys you trust a lot
of money for reason. This is when it counts.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Sometimes I think about connection too, right, Like I just
got connecting with the guys on and off the court.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Like guy was Sam. You were saying that he has
a reputation, he's not married. He's a single guy.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Wasn't there story where when he was in Chicago he
had a milk create with a TV on it, fairyliner.
Speaker 8 (19:53):
And fayre bones apartment like you know, not like art
on the wall and you know, a lot of sophisticated stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
He's just basketball, peer and simple and maybe that doesn't
connect with these young dudes in New York who knows.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
And really quick rich. Just so we get it right,
because I know we weren't around for this, we weren't
alive yet. But it was Jack McKinney who had the
bicycle accident. Oh yeah, you know, I was gonna say yeah,
and West had took over for him, and then pat
Riley took over for him.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
That's what it was, Okay, Yeah, eight seven seven ninety
nine on Fox whilst we got to move on.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I was just a twinkle in my dad's anyway, I
want to play for a sweeking.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Now or what let's go, We're ready?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Sure again, We're lying from the Fox Sports Radio studio.
Remember after the show, the podcast goes up. If you
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Well, it's funny to say.
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The startup thing because something like as dumb as that, yeah,
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Speaker 7 (21:03):
And now it's time for Shack Diesel Trivia.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Whenever we say not to name drop, that means we're.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
About to name drop. I'll oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Not only our CNR friends with Tyson and Mahomes hey man,
they're also buddies with a big Aristona.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Big Shack Diesel aka Shackfou aka Shack Daddy aka the
Big aristotis Gure's what it's don want some c our project?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Time for some basketball trivia.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Diesel basketball trivia?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
What he said?
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I used to break brag boards, now breaking records for
Refisol radio.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Shack Diesel basketball trivia.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
All right, our FSR security walking our broke shack food
into the main studio there?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (21:48):
That was a sad goodbye from CNT. They almost crying. No,
I saw you wipe in your tears.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
You didn't try to hold it backs like Rich Davis
watching full just commercials. I'll to coffee by the way.
It's looking for Dann Bayer. I see MANSI. Hey, hey baby,
what'd you think about you see my big shoes?
Speaker 10 (22:09):
He do?
Speaker 7 (22:14):
He got one? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
You gave me one of your shoes back in the
late nineties. That's right, he you sniff it every night.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
I put an air freshener in it right when he gave.
Speaker 10 (22:22):
It to me.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Hey, Shak, what do you think about people that say
ESPN is going to ruin your show? I think you're crazy.
We got a new host and everything. It's me Charles,
Ernie Kenny and Mickey Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
Yeah, is watching. What you think about the big headline
today with TIBs being fired?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I say, if it don't work out on ESPN, I'm
I'm the coature of the Knicks. Coature in the Knicks.
They need a big man like me, shack smack them around.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
One of the few teams you didn't play for. That's right,
all right, let's meet the contestants. Ten time winner Rich
Davis right over there.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 7 (22:53):
Four time winner in the house, spotty boy.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Oh, I thought that was a Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 7 (22:57):
Let's do it leader in the clubhouse.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Fourteen time winner Dan Byer is not here today.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Moncey Belanos is sitting in Oh I like Manzy and
looking to win a C and R stainless Deeal Swiggy
on our studio line, say what's up to?
Speaker 7 (23:10):
Jay in Greensboro, North Carolina? Who up?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Jake?
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Hey Jake? What's up?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Ella's love the show here?
Speaker 7 (23:16):
What's going on? Man? Thank you?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Jay?
Speaker 7 (23:18):
What do you do for a living there in North Cakilaca? Ah?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Oh dude, look at you.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Very cool.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
It's a real hero.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
All right, here are the rules for Shack Diesel trivia.
The first contestant with two correct answers is the champ.
If there's a tie, we have a tie breaker question.
Your name is your buzzer, but you do have to
wait until all three possible answers are read. If there's
two wrong answers in a row, we move on to
the next question. Are you ready, let's go, let's get
it home. All right, let's got this big arst little
party started. Who was the second leading scorer of the
(23:47):
OKC Thunder this season? Hey, Chet holmgrom b, Jaylen Williams
or Ce Alex Crusoe, second leading.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Score Mancy Moncey. I'm gonna go be Jaylen Williams. Yeah wow, Yeah,
am just came to play like that. Twenty one point
six points.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
On the board, and yeah, Jay, you got to be
quick to say your name there and nothing to lose.
You're not punished if you answer in correct. You're messing around,
all right? Round two?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
All right, Round two?
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I'm a question that's I'm sorry. How much how many
did chat? It was close?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Right?
Speaker 5 (24:19):
No, Chat averaged close to seventeen I think or fifteen
and Williams twenty one points six.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Okay, Caruso about eight or nine?
Speaker 7 (24:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
All right? Round two?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
What was that one's quarter of saying about living simple? Hey,
the simple life is for suckers. Complicated has given me wealth.
B The only man who truly has a simple life
is Chuck when he's in the casino or c. If
you don't stick to simplicity, you'll die a horrible death.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Kay, Jay, go be no.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
Rich Rich for the steal. See yes, sir, right, that's
the great job. Nice?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Thanks, all right, shock diesens.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
All right, So Moncey and Rich both on the board
as we moved around three. He's not being petty or anything.
Isaiah Thomas has Michael Jordan ranked as the eighth greatest
baseball great greatest basketball player. What year did the Bulls
draft MJ A eighty three, B eighty four or C
eighty five?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeay j eighty four, Yeah eighty four?
Speaker 5 (25:28):
NBA draft at the Garney's, sir, the Madison Square Garden.
So three way time, Moncey, Rich and Jay all on
the board as we moved around four.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
All right, Round four?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
What player did the Lakers trade through the Hornets for
the rights to Kobe Bryant? A. Elden Campbell, B Trump,
Kersey or C Lottie Dvak Rich.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
Well, go to the caller, all right, j for the win?
What's that Jay today? No, Damn Rich for the win.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Let's get into b.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
You're both losers.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Why do I think that was not the answer?
Speaker 7 (26:11):
All right? So still a three way tie. Round Round five?
Speaker 10 (26:15):
Here go?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Which of these, by the way, is there any pizza left?
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Pizza focus, Pepperoni, you got me and you meat pizza sausage,
Sam like sausage here that Which of these NBA players
never won Rookie of the Year Ajuan be chasing Kidd
or see Damian Lillard?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Rich again, j.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I might go on to guess to say a game?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yep, yeah, and you know why he was in the
same draft as who? Michael Jordan? Correct?
Speaker 4 (26:57):
I don't know?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Four?
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Thanks Phil, Thanks Bill Belichick?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Was it was it that draft?
Speaker 10 (27:02):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Wasn't that draft? Sam Bouie Alajuan?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Then Jordan's yeah, we're looking it up right now. You
tell us I know more about basketball than anyone else
in this trium.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
I mean we're not nineteen yeah think yeah, we're not
experts on that year, right, that.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Draft was well anyway, guys, I got things to do
it ESPN can go now go to Disney. Pray me
and Chuck. Yeah, we're in a Disney Prey Pizza Me, Chuck,
goofy Donald, you got things to do.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
He gets enough free Papa John's pizza. All right, guys,
Oh your pick really quick? For Thursday, dude, for the
finals Frazers. Wow, all right, I said for Thursday, not
for the whole Oh god, okay, letter guys.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
By shack shack, thanks are stopping by.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
It was it was Sam Bouie and you know they
can never live that down, correct And in Portland and
then Alajuan Olajuan going ahead of.
Speaker 9 (27:54):
Jordan's was the number one was the number one overall pick,
and then Sam Bouie, then Michael Draft.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I remember, you know, I was a little that was
I was in diapers.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
But I remember people saying they couldn't blame the rockets
were taking a Lajoan. It's a lajo one. But it
was the Booye pick that Everyone's like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
How did you do that?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Booie?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yes, Fooey. Oh, by the way, I was just giving
bro huks to shack him.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
The Hall we didn't congratulate Ja. Jay gonna mail that
swiggy to North Carolina. Four Oh congratulations.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Brother, Hey to go, Bud, Where to go?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, Jay's gonna mail his sexy fireman calendar. Tomase Yes,
put out.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Fires for the record.
Speaker 10 (28:36):
For the record, Fred put the red Yankee hat on
the map.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Dude, That's what I'm saying. And no mention. He got
no mention, no mention. Spike Lee got all the credit. Man.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
So anyway, thank you j congrats and we got more prizes. Well,
every day we give away prizes. We'll be giving away
lots of prizes at our party in Vegas twentieth twenty first,
twenty second at Circa. So hope to see their details
at Covino and Rich And by the way, if you
are coming, which we hope you're gonna be there and
have fun, please RSVP so Spot could get a headcount. Headcount.
(29:09):
We're ordering like some swag and stuff for the listeners.
So rs VP at Covino on Red, this is your invite.
Spot wants to know he orders enough nerves for the
past rounds, right, enough pizzas, enough slides.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Spells, cheese and pizza hor hores do versus Horres.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
Rich needs an estimate because he always buys all of
us to drink at these events.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Cut of the pizza. It's gonna all be like thirty
six slices and one pizza.
Speaker 7 (29:35):
All right.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Now, I got a question for you, guys.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Have you heard the story of Clara Adams state title
winner from Selinas?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Anything for you? Salinas, California, Saleina. You know, it's a
great story and I want you to set it up
and tell everyone.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
But folks, let's go to Manci for an update, and
then we'll wrap with the the story of all stories.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
That story Krino's about to tell you is we'll fire
you up. It'll make you mad, all right.
Speaker 9 (30:00):
I know the breaking news today was Tom Thibodeau being
relieved of his head coaching duties. But apparently it's raining
at Dodger Stadium, so that's breaking news.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Scattered showers going through the area right now.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I just look, yeah, yeah, I know, think right there, Warmfield, Dallas,
rain rein it in down.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, Okay, that's sorry, Sorry distracting here. Hoavier rains Thiboteau taking.
Speaker 9 (30:23):
The Knicks to their first East Finals in twenty five years,
making the playoffs in four or five years, leading the
next to fifty plus win seasons for the first time
since nineteen ninety. What's crazy is that New York actually
extended him this past summer. He was supposed to stay
with the season with the team through the twenty twenty
seven to twenty twenty eight season.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Obviously not anymore.
Speaker 9 (30:40):
Finishes his time in New York with the fourth most
wins by a coach in franchise history.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Does he get all that money? I don't Is it
all guaranteed? He doesn't seem like one of the type
of guys that would want to sit on his butt
the way Sam described.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Sure, I agree, but I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Javier Halea our weather man, same champion.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah yeah, I hope you get some money.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
NFL New c J. Stroud, Texans quarterback.
Speaker 9 (31:05):
He's been sitting out of throwing portions of OTA's due
to what was initially believed to be a pictorial a
pictoral issue, but today Demiko Ryans, a coach, said that
it's just general soreness.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Do what you want with that information.
Speaker 9 (31:16):
In the baseball world, Corbyn Burns diamondback say is going
on the fifteen day il.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
With elbow inflammation.
Speaker 9 (31:22):
Yankees closer Luke Weaver expected him as four to six
weeks because of a hamstring injury. And lastly, here at
the French Open, guys on the men's side, American and
twelve seed Tommy Paul tried really hard, but number two
seed Carlo Alcarez defeated him in straight sets to advance
to the semi finals. Fellow American and fifteen seed Francis
Tioffo also lost his quarterfinals match, So no more American
(31:43):
men at the French Open.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Back to you guys, thank you may the weather. And
by the way, Manzi, I saw Shaq in the hall.
He was asking about you. Excuse me, I'll be back, okay, yeah, yeah,
he had all these questions about Monzi.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah, something's going on. Yeah, that's what I heard.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
So Rich, Danny g Sam, Monci, Spotty's on the videos
at Covino and Rich, there's a story from Selinas, California.
I'll set it up and let you think about it,
let it simmer, and we'll take your phone calls. Clara Adams,
a student at Selena's running the four hundred meter and
(32:19):
she runs it like fifty three point twenty four seconds
and she's a state finalist, breaks the records, and she
celebrates by taking a fire extinguished.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
She wins the state title. Yeah, she wins the state title.
This is big. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
They bring her a fire extinguisher, Her coaches and her dad,
they're all in on it. So it's not something she
did rogue and she's being crazy. This was thought out.
And she sprays her cleats down because they're so hot,
they're so fast, she's so fast, paying homage to Morris Green,
the American Sprint icon. You've seen that clip before where
(32:59):
the dude takes his shoes off and he hostes him
down with the fire extinguisher. Well, all the people there
seem to get a big kick out of it, the cif,
the officials in charge there even seem to get a
kick out of it. But then all of a sudden,
they disqualify her for being unsportsmanlike with her celebration. They
stripping her of her title, and this becomes a story
(33:23):
and we're wondering, now you get mad at a kid
if they're just doing what the pros do. This is
an iconic moment, and it's become such a story that
even Maurice Green, the American sprinter that's known for doing this.
He's like, YEO, come on, you gotta give her her
title back. That's ridiculous. You got this young woman in
tears and you'll hear it trying to just plead her
(33:46):
case of like I was just celebrating and honestly, it
was so not a big deal. Her family comment on it. Yeah,
let's take a listen to her dad, David Adams.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Was she blue the fire singer shirt? The opponents were gone?
That was our moment of celebration and CIF officials made
that about them. The crowd went crazy. They loved it.
The booth see if booth went crazy, they loved it.
Speaker 11 (34:09):
But those few guys and those jackets, they took offense
to it, didn't like it, and they made a decision
based on emotions.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
They stripped her of an accomplishment. Now, what do you
think about this? And the bigger question is when you
see little kids bat flip? When you see little kids do,
what the pros do? They throwed a bunch of like
high school and college kids now on that. Yeah, there
was a clip just this week where you know, there
was a big bat flip and I was like, yo,
(34:36):
there's always an issue. There is this celebration. Is this
unsportsman like when the kids are just mimicking what they
see on TV from the stars? Is that wrong or understandable?
We'll take your phone calls and your feedback. Eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox we got more Covino and
Rich on Fox Sports Radio. Next, Yo, my feet are
(35:04):
on fire. Where's the fire extinguisher? Boom tough acting to
Acting by the way, Props to Saquon Barkley reenacting that
flippy dippy move that hurdle. You're Madden cover boy, Boom
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Speaker 1 (35:46):
And who was on the cover of Madden, Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
I don't know if you saw this, though, Beware Eagles
Immediately after that, it was announced a Saquon Barkley would
be on the cover of Madden twenty six Hopped on
the grilla. She knows steaks in Sound Philly, serving up
cheese steaks nice. He's a man of the people, just
the man. Before we get to the feedback on this
terrible story about this girl Clara Adams who got heard
(36:14):
stay title ripped away.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
You're the king of this. You know, when someone tells
you something, you're like, I knew that? Wait or did I?
I'm the king of Bongo bomb me.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
You you are the king of If someone drops a
fun fact, You're like, I knew that, and then you
convince yourself like did.
Speaker 10 (36:28):
I know that?
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Or you're right because I'm like, I definitely knew that.
I knew that.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Buddy Rob in Texas head us up. He listens every
day down in San Antonio and he goes, did you
know that Kobe was traded for Laddie Devak And I'm like, yeah,
of course I did. And I blanked or did I not?
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Did I?
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Like, you know, you're not sure once you hear the answer.
When you hit the answer, I believe there's a party
that I can't believe.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
You didn't know that. I go quite of course I
knew that.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
I think the other interesting part of our job. We
read so many sports articles and watch so many sports
real and clips and everything daily that there is so.
Speaker 7 (37:03):
Much in our heads. Sometimes I feel like my head
is going to explode.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
If people saw the text message thread between me, you
and Coveno just sending each other stuff day and night.
Speaker 7 (37:12):
Yeah and on weekends too, it never saw We're open
seven days a week.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
No doubt. But uh, thank you for working hard as
you do, Danny, And I think I knew that.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Of course I did, didn't I And speaking of working
a lot, Rich and I do a Patreon every day
Covino and Rich on Patreon, Patreon dot com, slash Covino
on rich and if you want to hear the uncensored
version of us and I'm today's Patreon. We talked about
how hard it is as a parent sometimes when your
kid doesn't make the team, or when your kid is
(37:40):
treated unfairly by the coaches or buy an organization. That's rough,
because whatever your kid goes through, you go through as
a parent. That's really really tough to deal with. Luckily,
my daughter made the cheer team last night. But you
were saying some of her friends, some of her friends
didn't And my goodness, that's so tough because that's their
soul feeling like if your buddy didn't make the team
you were on, you're like like then you have to
(38:00):
be all weird, like you can't really talk about it.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Like yeah, the football, I mean, yeah, what's up?
Speaker 4 (38:04):
Man?
Speaker 1 (38:05):
But thank god because I would have had to deal
with all that.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Imagine how Clara adams dad feels when she has to
defend when he has to defend his daughter. Take a
listen to Dave Adams defending Clara. She was stripped of
her state title.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
When she blew the fire singer sht. The opponents were gone.
Speaker 11 (38:23):
That was our moment of celebration and cif officials made
that about them.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
The crowd went crazy. They loved it. The booth see
booth went crazy. They loved it. But those few guys
and those jackets.
Speaker 11 (38:35):
They took offense to it, didn't like it, and they
made a decision based on emotions.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
So Dave is so disappointed and feels so bad for
his daughter. He was in on this celebration. This is
out of Selina's California state title. Clara Adams ran the
four hundred meter fifty three twenty four and was disqualified
when she took the fire extinguisher to put out her
cleats in celeb Yeah, she was so fast. Her shoes
(39:03):
are on fire now again. Even the guy that's known
for it, Maurice Green, the American sprinter the Icon, was like, Yo,
come on man, I'm famous for doing that. I was honored.
You gotta give her back her title. She's crying to
the public, but you know that's my title. That's all
I want back. I have the final way to end.
She meant no disrespect. It was just a celebration. The
final way to end this the positive. Now we know
(39:24):
who Clara Adams is. Congratulations she's getting some love on
sorts as well as other I'm sure sports that work.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
So props to Clara Adams. When you celebrate your victory.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
No one, Yeah, could take that away from her, could
be no, Okay, the moment she won, she knows, she
wanted everyone know she won.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Now. I think she is an example of robbery, right.
They took this from her.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
But even when someone wins and they don't deserve it,
whether it be the Astros, or Barry Bonds with home
runs or Reggie Bush flipping into the end zone with
his heisman and people, if the moment happened, I can't
unsee it. This girl won the race. You can't undo that.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
She one just because if they want to strip this
from her, f them. She deserves it.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
She knows she won, okay, And that was my problem
with the Astros. Remember when I said, like, you know
they won, they cheated, but guess what they got to do?
Celebrate and you can't take that away. Gooder, But you
can't take that moment away. You can't so won even
though the state title was stripped again disqualified for unsportsmanlike conduct,
I guess. And the second question is when you see
(40:27):
little kids doing what the big leaguers do, can you
be mad at them for that? No, If a kid
in literally hits a double and starts doing like the show,
hey wave right, it's annoying, But what do you expect
or the mets rolling of the hands into the fists,
And isn't that the entertainment factor and value of what
we want out of sports? Sometimes that's fun side of it.
That's why the Savannah Bananas are selling out stadiums right,
(40:49):
and the Marlins and Rockies had one hundred people at
the gadio, so how could you be mad at a
kid or disqualifying or take their title away.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Listen, we'll continue tomorrow. Until then, have a great night.
Are we even there? Maybe in the Promised Land? Goodbye, guys,
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