December 19, 2025 • 14 mins
In the most recent episode of the Daniel Cormier Show, DC GOES IN ON why Jon Jones vs. Alex Pereira HAS TO HAPPEN at the White House in June. Cormier says after Pereira has officially said he's not fighting on the historic card, that it means Jon Jones FOR SURE won't fight again. DC says Jon Jones IS OUT on Tom Aspinall, and the fight to make for the White House has to be Alex vs. Jon at light heavyweight (205 pounds). And don't miss Cormier speak on his good friend and UFC legend Cain Velasquez potentially getting parole eligibility in February of 2026. #Volume
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welcome to a brand new episode at DCTV, brought to
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They're in your corner with a limited five G data
that will not down. So a lot has been happening
in the world of mixed martial arts, but I truly
believe that the most discouraging news would be elect Pereira
(02:15):
saying that he's not gonna fight at the White House.
It's discouraging because Perera obviously is one of the biggest
stars in the UFC, but also because when he fights,
in most cases, you know that there's gonna be a
fireworks most likely or possibly a finish. What's most discouraging
(02:38):
though about the whole situation outside of the finishing facts,
the star ability. All that is that if he was
to fight, the fight that he offered up for the
White House was a fight against John Jones, to which
John Jones replied, I would love to do that. Please
(02:59):
let me on the White House. I'm back in the
testing pool. I would want to fight Alex Perera. So
now you immediately have the American star in Jones versus
the big star in Perera. And I don't know many
cases in which Perera would be perceived as the bad
(03:19):
guy per se if we're in a movie, but if
you're fighting at the White House and you're fighting an
American champion, you would have to imagine that Perera would
be the villain in the story, or at least that's
how he would need to be painted. Just for the
Independence Day and close to the fourth of July and
everything that the White House card will happen, him saying
(03:43):
that he's not on the card. I wonder if someone
told him that that's not what they're doing, because I
don't know why else he would make it public.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
John Jones feels that if Perera's not.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Fighting, he's not fighting, because I think that they know
that they both need each other to place themselves on
that White House card, which is going to be an
amazing event.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Here's where, here's where.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
If Perera's not on, if Jones is not on, how
big is the UFC willing to make this card to
assure that it's as big as anything we've ever seen
inside the octagon? How many title fights the UFC willing
to put on to assure us that this will be
the greatest fight card.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
That we've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I remember you have see three hundred yet the BMF title,
and then you had two title fights. You also had
a card that was littered with champions. Does the White
House card warrant a fight card of that nature where
you get former champions as the first fight of the night.
On PRELIMBS, we had Cody Garbrandt taking on Davison Figaredo.
(05:06):
I believe that this car is gonna be amazing. I
think they're gonna do everything they can to make it huge.
I don't very often disagree with how things work at
the UFC. I believe that doing Jones versus Perreira, that's
low hanging fruit.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
You already got two guys that say we want to
do that.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Put them out there It also saves you trying to
find an American guy that can either headline or can
be close enough to the main top of the card
that it feels like the card is based around him.
Because listen, man, they're gonna try to make Conna McGregor fight.
(05:51):
Connor McGregor will try to get on the White House card.
That's that's just the truth. And I don't care if
you love it or if you hate it. If you
want if you want the biggest fight card in history,
he has to be fighting. I know most people don't
(06:11):
want to hear that anymore. Connor's done and all. If
you truly want the biggest fight card ever, if you
want it to sur pass three hundred and two hundred
and one hundred and every other big card, you have
to have him fighting. And I believe that the UFC
will try to make him fight, and if he fights,
(06:32):
he will fight Michael Chandler, so they will sit at
the top of the card. But going into that fight,
Chandler is going to be a massive underdog. In that fight,
you still need that American guy that will be perceived
to be the favorite going into his fight, especially a
fight if it's for a Championship Judgment Day a colossal
global showdown between two of boxing's biggest stars. The disruptor
(06:58):
international superstar in WBA number fourteen ranked Cruise aweight Jake
el Gio del Dorado Paul, who's twelve and one with
seven knockouts and two times unified WBO, WBA and IBF
heavyweight world champion and guys. He also was an Olympic
gold medalist. The knockout artist that is Anthony Joshua. Joshua,
(07:23):
by the way, is twenty eight and four with twenty
five knockouts. This matchup unites Jake Paul, the sports most
watch fighter whose showmanship has kind of honestly, he's redefined
boxing or modern boxing for the record, and he shattered
records at every single turn.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
You can love him hate him, but this is just
the truth.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Anthony Joshua is one of boxing's most accomplished, respected He's
also one of the most feared punchers in the world
of boxing. In two times he unified the heavyweight division.
This dude has headline sold out stadiums across the UK
and beyond. Jake Paul will face the most dangerous, the
most dangerous, and the fining fight of his entire career
(08:05):
against Joshua, Britain's two time unified heavyweight world champion and
also the Olympic gold medal.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
It's crazy how Anthony Joshua's Olympic.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Gold medal is like secondary to everything he's done in
boxing because he's been so good. They'll fight in a
professional heavyweight mega fight. It's gonna be scheduled for eight
three minute rounds. They'll fight in tenous gloves. So watch
Jake Paul versus Anthony Joshua Friday, December nineteenth, eight pm
Eastern five pm Pacific Standard time.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Live only on Netflix. Are good friends at Netflix? What
an event? This is going to be crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I think Jones would fight Perrera at two five. That
would be even better. I think Jones is good, He's
a good fighter. John Jones the heavyweight, isn't John Jones
the light heavyweight. You guys know that I believe, or
I know for a fact, that John Jones has some
issues in his life outside of the octaga. I believe
(09:01):
that the weight management and cutting weight and training really
hard makes him have to be more focused in his
life than when he's fighting at heavyweight.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
There's just way more leniency.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
He's not a two hundred and sixty five pound guy,
so he doesn't have to be as locked in. He
was never as good as when he was fighting at
two o five. I know we haven't seen them fight
at heavyweight much, but he was better at two o
five because he had to be so disciplined to get
to two o five. I think that is where him
and Pereira should fight because I believe that I Perira
(09:36):
fights him at heavyweight. Perera is a little too small
and at heavyweight Johns Jones, it just isn't as good
as he is at two o five. Who want the
best product, you put those guys at two o five.
With all that being said, though Perera said, I guess
it ain't happening now. It could be because they want
him to fight prior to the White House. The White
(09:58):
House ain't till June, right, We have January, February, March, April, May.
We have five UFC numbered events before we get to
the White House. So it may be a case of
they need him to fight justin Gagee is a big
time American star that should be on the White House.
I believe that if he wins this fight against Patty pimlet.
(10:19):
There's a strong chance that from January they turn around,
he finds himself in that fight in June. That would
be awesome, but we need American guys on that fight card.
If that's what we're doing. If Brera to say he's out,
that essentially means that John Jones is out, because I
just don't know that Jones still wants to fight Tom Aspinall.
(10:40):
I still don't. I don't believe that that's what he
wants to do. And then Tom Aspernhall said that he's
having surgery because still Gun poked him in the eyes.
I didn't imagine that it was that bad, but it is,
you know a little bit ago.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I texted the.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Champ Aspinall and told him, you know that, uh, the
situation sucked, and you know, we're kind of thinking about him.
And he said, uh, let me see when that one
was this big tongue.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Okay, let me see this. Oh he's yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
He just told me he's still struggling with his eyes, man,
And thanks for the message.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I hope you're good.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Uh just ask the Tampa's eyes are still struggling and
now he's having surgery for it.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I mean, that is that is bad. That is really,
really bad.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I didn't believe that fight, feeling like it was as
bad as it was.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Tom told us it was that badness. Honestly it is
if he's going uh into surgery for it. Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I hope we figure out a way to get Jones
versus Perrairie together.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I think that would be a massive fight.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
And I believe Connor McGregor will be on the White
House car because if you what the biggest card of
all time, it has to include him. It's unbelievable how
fast things are going in mixed martial arts. It's unbelievable
that twenty twenty five is already over.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It's unbelievable that every champion.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
That was at the beginning of the year, the belt
is not that person's hands anymore. In that weight class. Obviously,
Illly and Islam went up. There have been so many
things happen in twenty twenty five that I can't believe
how quickly stuff has gone from last year where we
started the year thinking this is normal. These guys are
gonna have these belts forever, to now everybody else has
(12:36):
these championships. It's unreal how quickly things move in mixed
martial arts. With that being said, it tells me that
Pereira is off to date. He might be on tomorrow.
It happens that quick, hey, really quick, before I go,
quick update, Kane Velaska's parole date was moved to February
of next year.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Guys, let's pray.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Let's pray that the champions to come home and start
his life anew after everything that he's been through these
last few years, with what happened with him and that situation,
the jail time, the parole, the probation, everything, Let's pray
that the champ gets back because I'm telling you, in
the time that he was home, Kane Alaskaz was not
(13:17):
a danger to anyone. He was doing nothing more than
coaching and trying to help the next wave of fighters
that will be coming.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Out of the Northern California.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
So hopefully he's doing good in there and that news
hopefully bolsters him as we get into the holiday season
and he gets ready to come home hopefully at the
beginning of next year. So you, guys, pray for Kane,
keep that support strong and make sure we make sure
or make sure we are hopeful and giving our love
to the champ as it looks like he could possibly
(13:49):
be coming to the end of this whole thing. In February,
guys like subscribe to you friends about my YouTube channel.
I appreciate the love and support and I will catch
you in the next piece.
The volume. All right, guys, say show is brought to
you by a new sponsor, hard Rock Bet. Hard Rock
Bet is a top rated sportsbook app. It might just
take the belt from any other sportsbook app that you
use once you open it up and you.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
See it for yourself.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And guys, if you haven't tried your first bet on
the hard Rock Bet, there's still time if you can
get one to fifty and bonus bets if you win,
so place a five dollar bet.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
If that bet hits, you not.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Only get your winnings, but you get one hundred and
fifty dollars in bonus bets right away. Guys, Today's a
great day to try the hard Rock Bet sports app.
So it's not just the welcome offer. You can get
bonus bets. You can get parlay, insurance.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
And other rewards. The rewards and the promos are NonStop.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
So download the hard Rock Bet app and make your
first deposit today. And bonus betts is not a cash
offer offered by the Seminal Tribe of Florida and Florida
offered by Siminal hard Rock Digital LLC. In all other states.
You must be twenty one or older and physically present
in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee,
(01:19):
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has a gambling problem and wants help, call one eight
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(01:49):
welcome to a brand new episode at DCTV, brought to
you by Total Wireless, the official wirelens provider of UFC.
They're in your corner with a limited five G data
that will not down. So a lot has been happening
in the world of mixed martial arts, but I truly
believe that the most discouraging news would be elect Pereira
(02:15):
saying that he's not gonna fight at the White House.
It's discouraging because Perera obviously is one of the biggest
stars in the UFC, but also because when he fights,
in most cases, you know that there's gonna be a
fireworks most likely or possibly a finish. What's most discouraging
(02:38):
though about the whole situation outside of the finishing facts,
the star ability. All that is that if he was
to fight, the fight that he offered up for the
White House was a fight against John Jones, to which
John Jones replied, I would love to do that. Please
(02:59):
let me on the White House. I'm back in the
testing pool. I would want to fight Alex Perera. So
now you immediately have the American star in Jones versus
the big star in Perera. And I don't know many
cases in which Perera would be perceived as the bad
(03:19):
guy per se if we're in a movie, but if
you're fighting at the White House and you're fighting an
American champion, you would have to imagine that Perera would
be the villain in the story, or at least that's
how he would need to be painted. Just for the
Independence Day and close to the fourth of July and
everything that the White House card will happen, him saying
(03:43):
that he's not on the card. I wonder if someone
told him that that's not what they're doing, because I
don't know why else he would make it public.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
John Jones feels that if Perera's not.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Fighting, he's not fighting, because I think that they know
that they both need each other to place themselves on
that White House card, which is going to be an
amazing event.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Here's where, here's where.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
If Perera's not on, if Jones is not on, how
big is the UFC willing to make this card to
assure that it's as big as anything we've ever seen
inside the octagon? How many title fights the UFC willing
to put on to assure us that this will be
the greatest fight card.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
That we've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I remember you have see three hundred yet the BMF title,
and then you had two title fights. You also had
a card that was littered with champions. Does the White
House card warrant a fight card of that nature where
you get former champions as the first fight of the night.
On PRELIMBS, we had Cody Garbrandt taking on Davison Figaredo.
(05:06):
I believe that this car is gonna be amazing. I
think they're gonna do everything they can to make it huge.
I don't very often disagree with how things work at
the UFC. I believe that doing Jones versus Perreira, that's
low hanging fruit.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
You already got two guys that say we want to
do that.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Put them out there It also saves you trying to
find an American guy that can either headline or can
be close enough to the main top of the card
that it feels like the card is based around him.
Because listen, man, they're gonna try to make Conna McGregor fight.
(05:51):
Connor McGregor will try to get on the White House card.
That's that's just the truth. And I don't care if
you love it or if you hate it. If you
want if you want the biggest fight card in history,
he has to be fighting. I know most people don't
(06:11):
want to hear that anymore. Connor's done and all. If
you truly want the biggest fight card ever, if you
want it to sur pass three hundred and two hundred
and one hundred and every other big card, you have
to have him fighting. And I believe that the UFC
will try to make him fight, and if he fights,
(06:32):
he will fight Michael Chandler, so they will sit at
the top of the card. But going into that fight,
Chandler is going to be a massive underdog. In that fight,
you still need that American guy that will be perceived
to be the favorite going into his fight, especially a
fight if it's for a Championship Judgment Day a colossal
global showdown between two of boxing's biggest stars. The disruptor
(06:58):
international superstar in WBA number fourteen ranked Cruise aweight Jake
el Gio del Dorado Paul, who's twelve and one with
seven knockouts and two times unified WBO, WBA and IBF
heavyweight world champion and guys. He also was an Olympic
gold medalist. The knockout artist that is Anthony Joshua. Joshua,
(07:23):
by the way, is twenty eight and four with twenty
five knockouts. This matchup unites Jake Paul, the sports most
watch fighter whose showmanship has kind of honestly, he's redefined
boxing or modern boxing for the record, and he shattered
records at every single turn.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
You can love him hate him, but this is just
the truth.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Anthony Joshua is one of boxing's most accomplished, respected He's
also one of the most feared punchers in the world
of boxing. In two times he unified the heavyweight division.
This dude has headline sold out stadiums across the UK
and beyond. Jake Paul will face the most dangerous, the
most dangerous, and the fining fight of his entire career
(08:05):
against Joshua, Britain's two time unified heavyweight world champion and
also the Olympic gold medal.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
It's crazy how Anthony Joshua's Olympic.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Gold medal is like secondary to everything he's done in
boxing because he's been so good. They'll fight in a
professional heavyweight mega fight. It's gonna be scheduled for eight
three minute rounds. They'll fight in tenous gloves. So watch
Jake Paul versus Anthony Joshua Friday, December nineteenth, eight pm
Eastern five pm Pacific Standard time.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Live only on Netflix. Are good friends at Netflix? What
an event? This is going to be crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I think Jones would fight Perrera at two five. That
would be even better. I think Jones is good, He's
a good fighter. John Jones the heavyweight, isn't John Jones
the light heavyweight. You guys know that I believe, or
I know for a fact, that John Jones has some
issues in his life outside of the octaga. I believe
(09:01):
that the weight management and cutting weight and training really
hard makes him have to be more focused in his
life than when he's fighting at heavyweight.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
There's just way more leniency.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
He's not a two hundred and sixty five pound guy,
so he doesn't have to be as locked in. He
was never as good as when he was fighting at
two o five. I know we haven't seen them fight
at heavyweight much, but he was better at two o
five because he had to be so disciplined to get
to two o five. I think that is where him
and Pereira should fight because I believe that I Perira
(09:36):
fights him at heavyweight. Perera is a little too small
and at heavyweight Johns Jones, it just isn't as good
as he is at two o five. Who want the
best product, you put those guys at two o five.
With all that being said, though Perera said, I guess
it ain't happening now. It could be because they want
him to fight prior to the White House. The White
(09:58):
House ain't till June, right, We have January, February, March, April, May.
We have five UFC numbered events before we get to
the White House. So it may be a case of
they need him to fight justin Gagee is a big
time American star that should be on the White House.
I believe that if he wins this fight against Patty pimlet.
(10:19):
There's a strong chance that from January they turn around,
he finds himself in that fight in June. That would
be awesome, but we need American guys on that fight card.
If that's what we're doing. If Brera to say he's out,
that essentially means that John Jones is out, because I
just don't know that Jones still wants to fight Tom Aspinall.
(10:40):
I still don't. I don't believe that that's what he
wants to do. And then Tom Aspernhall said that he's
having surgery because still Gun poked him in the eyes.
I didn't imagine that it was that bad, but it is,
you know a little bit ago.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I texted the.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Champ Aspinall and told him, you know that, uh, the
situation sucked, and you know, we're kind of thinking about him.
And he said, uh, let me see when that one
was this big tongue.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Okay, let me see this. Oh he's yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
He just told me he's still struggling with his eyes, man,
And thanks for the message.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I hope you're good.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Uh just ask the Tampa's eyes are still struggling and
now he's having surgery for it.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I mean, that is that is bad. That is really,
really bad.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I didn't believe that fight, feeling like it was as
bad as it was.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Tom told us it was that badness. Honestly it is
if he's going uh into surgery for it. Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I hope we figure out a way to get Jones
versus Perrairie together.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I think that would be a massive fight.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
And I believe Connor McGregor will be on the White
House car because if you what the biggest card of
all time, it has to include him. It's unbelievable how
fast things are going in mixed martial arts. It's unbelievable
that twenty twenty five is already over.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It's unbelievable that every champion.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
That was at the beginning of the year, the belt
is not that person's hands anymore. In that weight class. Obviously,
Illly and Islam went up. There have been so many
things happen in twenty twenty five that I can't believe
how quickly stuff has gone from last year where we
started the year thinking this is normal. These guys are
gonna have these belts forever, to now everybody else has
(12:36):
these championships. It's unreal how quickly things move in mixed
martial arts. With that being said, it tells me that
Pereira is off to date. He might be on tomorrow.
It happens that quick, hey, really quick, before I go,
quick update, Kane Velaska's parole date was moved to February
of next year.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Guys, let's pray.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Let's pray that the champions to come home and start
his life anew after everything that he's been through these
last few years, with what happened with him and that situation,
the jail time, the parole, the probation, everything, Let's pray
that the champ gets back because I'm telling you, in
the time that he was home, Kane Alaskaz was not
(13:17):
a danger to anyone. He was doing nothing more than
coaching and trying to help the next wave of fighters
that will be coming.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Out of the Northern California.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
So hopefully he's doing good in there and that news
hopefully bolsters him as we get into the holiday season
and he gets ready to come home hopefully at the
beginning of next year. So you, guys, pray for Kane,
keep that support strong and make sure we make sure
or make sure we are hopeful and giving our love
to the champ as it looks like he could possibly
(13:49):
be coming to the end of this whole thing. In February,
guys like subscribe to you friends about my YouTube channel.
I appreciate the love and support and I will catch
you in the next piece.
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