July 2, 2025 • 19 mins
Arman Tsarukyan sits down with Daniel Cormier in an EXCLUSIVE CHECK-IN interview following Ilia Topuria's knockout vs. Charles Oliveira at UFC 317 during International Fight Week. Tsarukyan gives his breakdown of the Topuria-Oliveira fight and Joe Rogan "making a mistake" by calling Paddy Pimblett to the octagon after Ilia's victory. Hear why Tsarukyan was SURPRISED by Topuria's knockout of Charles. Arman also talks about dropping out of the Islam Makhachev title fight, his roast of Bryce Mitchell, and what he thinks of Topuria's new No. 1 spot in the pound-for-pound rankings of the UFC! #Volume #Herd
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume, sar Rookian.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
What's up, Armand how are you doing great?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
How are you good? Man?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
So I was watching Instagram and I saw you just
like housing thousands of dollars of caviar, like the ship
is disgusting.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
It does not taste good.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Bro, Really no, you never tried the good one I got.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I tried the best caviar in New York City, the
best caveyard, New York City, Harold Good.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Okay, how many types of caviars you try, Blacke?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
How many?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I tried just one black caviar but it's so saltys like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
But there is a seven seven different kind of them.
And you gotta come Russia and I'll show the real
caviar and you're gonna like it. I can't eat this stuff, man,
It was no, no, no, you're gonna eat it.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Okay, okay, hey man, So thank you for joining me,
armand money. Things are moving fast, Things are moving fast,
jamp So obviously the fight with Islam didn't happen in
Los Angeles. As is well documented, Dana said something Saturday
he thought, and I made the same mistake also on
the way and show when I.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Said, yes, I see it that.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, I go him stepping on the scales a big
thing considering he missed weight last time.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
But you did not miss weight last time.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
No, I have never ever like issue with my weight,
and uh to make the weight is not a hard
deal for me. So and especially how he can miss
the light if you're being if you're being waiting for
that fight like six years, and like I knew about
that fight before four months, Like you can bring your
(01:43):
body like to that day where you're like good, you know,
and it's not four weeks or three weeks. You gotta
jump in on the dive and like could do a
lot of card. And I was lighter than than the
last ones, you know. I was lighter for three pounds
and I was on the in the pictures, how you
(02:04):
can you can see like I was so lean. I
was in good shape. You know. The worst thing, I
over trained and hurt my back, especially when I was dehydrated.
I heard my bag and doctors came and check my bag,
and uh yeah, they said, like if you couldn't move,
(02:27):
if you couldn't make the way, just don't do that.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
So what do you think when you hear that for me?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And then you hear from data and you're like, oh
my god, this is so bad, right because you stepping
on the scale is a great thing. But then obviously
I have a big voice in MMA. Obviously Dana is
the voice in MMA. When you hear that, what do
you think, like as the guy that knows it wasn't
a way issue, it was a medical issue.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I'm met on the doctors because supposed to tell to
Donna what really happened and check my They checked my
bag and send me to do MRI or something and
made the right decision, you know, and and the Donna
like until nowadays, the thing like I have an issue
(03:17):
with my weight cut but never and uh, I'm I'm
professional and like everybody who is close to me, they
know me if I'm in the campboy, I if I'm
on the diet, I never eat like outside and uh
and I'm so disciplined for that, And how can I
(03:39):
miss that fight for the weight that's like biggest fight
in my life. It's gonna change my life as well,
and I'm gonna make a lot of money and like
after and I could be a champion and my life
is going to change.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You know, you get on the scale, Friday as the
backup fighter for Illiot to pour you Charles oliver going
into that fight, what was your expectation did you expect
Charles Olivera to be more competitive with the poor you
considering you and you and him had a decent fight
in the last one.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I I thought he's the gonna finish him in the
third round when because I thought Pua is not gonna
be rush and he's gonna like take his time because
he's so confident on his feet, he's not gonna rush it.
And but like like Olivera has no chin, you know,
(04:38):
he he like a lot of people drop him and
he plays guard. But he's getting old now, his chip
not there, and and he has a way so difficult
way cut as well, you know, and he his time
I guess passed. And stylistically his bad matchup for the
(04:59):
Tapua as well, because he has no wrestling to take
him down and on on the feet, how you can
beat the uh tapuya. And Oliveta has no good kicks
as well, Like he has push kick. He started very
well with pushkis and but then he just missed one
(05:19):
punch and started like play his game on the boxing distance.
How you can how you should You should work like
straight punches, you know, stay on the long distance. If
you're on the closed distance, you gotta like just run
out or like just go to the wrestling, you know,
try to take him down.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
So when you watch that, right, they pan to all
you guys sitting in the front row, and they want
your reaction. What was your immediate thought watching Illiot Toporia.
I mean, honestly knockout Charles Olavera after knocking out Max
Holloway and Alexander Volkanowski back together, Like, were you impressed
(06:00):
the performance of Ilia?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I was impressed because it happened in the first round,
But I knew that he has one of the best
boxing in our division right now, and he's the best
weapons he's boxing. So and when he knocked him out
like that, I was, yeah, I was. I was surprised,
(06:24):
Like he just he just he just like fall like
he just falls straight, you know. Yeah, So it was
was good knockout.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
You know, yeah what arm You were the number one
contend to go in to fight Islam.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
After the fight didn't happen, Dana famously said he has
to fight again. You go and you make the weight, right,
So it is assumed that by if the thought was
that you had a weight issue, you make the weight.
Now you're gonna find yourself back in the number one
contender position. But after the fight, the poor you starts
to call everybody out. He called you out, He called
(07:05):
Geegee out, he called Patty out. Patty was the one, though,
that walked into the octagon. First off, how that happened?
How did he become the one that got into the
octagon And it wasn't you who was then number one contender.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
I mean it was a Joe Rogan mistake.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Oh, Joe Rogan called him in.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yeah, Joe Rogan called him. It was the Joe Rogan mistake.
And he shouldn't like call his even name, like bring
him to the octagon, like, uh, Petty, he called the
petty to come to the octagon, and uh yeah, I
was surprised. But you know when Donna said it shouldn't
be like that, I said, Okay, hopefully he's not fighting
(07:48):
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Speaker 2 (09:12):
Were you upset when you were watching that, like as
you see Patty Pimblet, because it's hard to erase the
visual of that, right, Like in people's minds they saw
Patty Pimblet and Illiot the poia in the octagon, like
Patty was the next guy. Were you like upset knowing
that it's going to be an uphill battle now to
(09:34):
try and change what people probably expect to happen now,
even though in terms of what's earned, you deserve a
championship opportunity much more than Patty Pimblet right now.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I mean for the feels like twenty thirty minutes, I was,
of course upset because I said, this is not spoiled,
this is WWE they do. They can do whatever they
want to do. Like just you know, I've been fighting
for with everybody you know, and like I had a
(10:10):
good winning streak with a top top fighters, you know,
and and but and then when I listened to Donald's
interview about the Petty, I said, Okay, hopefully he's not
fighting for the title, and they must put me on
the title fight because because I'm number one contender mostly
(10:32):
deserved fighters right now and after me, they can't fight.
But you know, but next it's me for sure.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Have you heard anything in the days that since the
fight in regards to what's gonna happen in the future
at one with you and Ilia and Patty and Justin
Gagee who won his last fight and said that he
wants a championship opportunity.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, I mean, you see, gonna decided who's gonna fight
for the title. And but if you ask like fans
and people, they just call my name and they know,
like I'm real contender and and I know just me
can beat And.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
How do you think how do you think you beat
Iliot to Pour? You like, what do you make of him?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I mean, because he's a guy that you know, it
seems all well put together, right, beautiful family, great media presence,
can fight when you break him down in the fight side.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Of everything, How do you beat Iliot to pour you.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
It's just is it just a matter of the takedowns,
because the the the word or the story is that
he started as a wrestler and a grappler and he has.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Developed to become this tremendous striker.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
And if that's the case, that means that it would
be difficult to just control him with the wrestling.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I mean, i just need to fight and to show
everybody like I'm a different fighter and I've been improving
so so so much and my last fight, my last
fight was like one year and a half, and I'm
(12:19):
just can't wait to go there and to show like
who is the Urmansarukan and why I'm number one contender
and that day I'm gonna be a world champion. So
it's not just wrestling, it's a it's a I'm a
well rounded fighter and I'm not gonna just try to
wrestle him. I'm gonna strike him, I'm gonna kick him.
(12:40):
I'm gonna up kick him and you know, and like
try to do but yeah, obviously I'm not gonna try
to box him. I'm gonna try to do like a
real MMA fight to show him brastling, to punch him,
to punch him wrestling to show him brastling to kick him,
you know and like clinch work. Yeah. He I watched
(13:04):
his first fight and he was wrestling a little, but
he got tied so much and he never fought of
his wrestlers like me who knows like freestyle wrestling. He
had Brice Bruce Mitchell or what's his name, Bruce Mitchell,
Bryce Mitchell. As as the word he's the worst fighter
(13:24):
in one forty five. He took him down and hold
him like with the crazy from the trainy position. He
got his single leg and he even he took him
down like I mean, and he couldn't escape like one minute.
He just he was pulling the guard. If you if
(13:45):
you go good on the ground, you never pull guard.
You're just trying to sleep or like get up, get
up from there. I mean, I can tell he's not
the high level. Yeah. On the video he hiss passed
very well and like the fandom thing so like beautiful,
but I mean it's not double w uh. I can't
(14:07):
wait to show like everybody be't.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Funny you said Bryce Mitchell is the worst fighter at
one forty.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I mean no, I mean he's a I mean, did
you watch his fights, Dude, I've watched the fights. He
was like, he's like his kicks like he thinks he's
kicking the ball. I think like soccer, like soccer.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah, you're so crazy, Armor, You're crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Oh okay, you said that you would be the backup
fighter to weigh in for the BMF title fight.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Armand Why Uh? I mean if they call me, if
I need I need to be a backup, I'll be
back up.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
No, what are you doing? Now? Where are you? Are
you in Thailand?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I'm in Thailand.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
What are you doing? Trading?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah, this guy's don't be No, no, I'm in the
education one week. I'm kind on Sunday, one.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Week vacation in Thailand.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Come back started getting ready for a BMF championship, I mean,
come on, Armand.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
But no, no, no, no, no, no no. They didn't tell
me like you're going to be Yeah. Yeah, I'm saying
like if they need you, if some on the pull out,
if something happened, I'll be there and like try to
make my weight and fight for the title because that's
a good opportunity as well.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, all right, man, Well listen Islam. When Islam vacated
the belt to go to one seventy. People thought that
one fifty five might have a little bit of time
to like recover. But it seems like with Iliot to
poor you and now being the champion, you being here
and all those other contenders, the division is just kind
(15:47):
of waking up again with the change. And honestly, today,
armand I'm gonna tell you this, Iliot to Pouri is
now number one pound for pound in the ESPN MMA rankings.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
He deserves it to be a number one because he's
a two division champion, right, he's to the two division champion.
He like knocked out lost his fights, and like he
knocked out the goats, and I mean how he went
there and like knocked out charge Over in the first round,
and and Islam just move up. If Islam gonna win
(16:27):
the title in one seventy year, he's gonna be poumpha punk, right,
Yeah for sure, because yeah, it just takes time. But
I'll send the I'll send Toua back to top fifteen.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
You're confident against Ill. It's hard though, because I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I would when when the fight started, I wanted to
to pull your win because for me, it's easy to
fight to put it than.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Oliver understand that though I don't understand that armor.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Like, how can you say, because because I like, I
like to take down people. You know, when you take
down Charles A. La Vera, he still can like choke
you or something like do some Micha is gonna try
to get up. Just he's gonna like defend. He's not
gonna like and then you can like just go like
(17:20):
a thousand times to take him down because there isn't
no no problems on the ground. He's not gonna try
to choke you or something.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
He's well that Bryce Mitchell fight that you were speaking about,
he won that fight by submission.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I mean Bruss Mitchell, Bross Mitchell, Bruss Mitchell. He was,
he was, he was, he grew up who was wrestling?
Speaker 1 (17:50):
No, No, he didn't, No, he didn't he did.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I mean maybe he's a good guy, but not the best.
I mean, I will I wish he last fight. I mean,
he's triking. It's crazy where he trains even.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Enjoy your vacation, Champ, thank you for joining me, man.
I appreciate it. Hey have fun. Uh you can keep
that cavear to yourself. I don't want that ship.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I don't care if it's the most expensive caviar in
the world. I'm not eating it. That's is terrible salty.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Now you gotta you gotta comraadher bro and try their brother.
You're gonna change your mind.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Brother. I might as well take a thing of salt
and just pour it in my face.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
That's how this thinks, because because you don't try that
good one. But okay, one day, one day when you
see comes to Russia, yes, go and try it.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Black cavat.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, guys, that's Armand Serukian, the number one contending for
the lightweight championship in the world, is hoping he gets
a shot against Elliot to poor. Uh go follow everything
Armand's doing. He's the man, Yo. Your instagram is hilarious, Bro.
I don't know where you get the cars from. I
don't know where you get all this stuff, man, but
your instagram is hilarious.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
It's a fake brother, fake
Speaker 2 (19:15):
All right, Armand, thank you, thank you, Bye bye.
The volume, sar Rookian.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
What's up, Armand how are you doing great?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
How are you good? Man?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
So I was watching Instagram and I saw you just
like housing thousands of dollars of caviar, like the ship
is disgusting.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
It does not taste good.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Bro, Really no, you never tried the good one I got.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I tried the best caviar in New York City, the
best caveyard, New York City, Harold Good.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Okay, how many types of caviars you try, Blacke?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
How many?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I tried just one black caviar but it's so saltys like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
But there is a seven seven different kind of them.
And you gotta come Russia and I'll show the real
caviar and you're gonna like it. I can't eat this stuff, man,
It was no, no, no, you're gonna eat it.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Okay, okay, hey man, So thank you for joining me,
armand money. Things are moving fast, Things are moving fast,
jamp So obviously the fight with Islam didn't happen in
Los Angeles. As is well documented, Dana said something Saturday
he thought, and I made the same mistake also on
the way and show when I.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Said, yes, I see it that.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, I go him stepping on the scales a big
thing considering he missed weight last time.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
But you did not miss weight last time.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
No, I have never ever like issue with my weight,
and uh to make the weight is not a hard
deal for me. So and especially how he can miss
the light if you're being if you're being waiting for
that fight like six years, and like I knew about
that fight before four months, Like you can bring your
(01:43):
body like to that day where you're like good, you know,
and it's not four weeks or three weeks. You gotta
jump in on the dive and like could do a
lot of card. And I was lighter than than the
last ones, you know. I was lighter for three pounds
and I was on the in the pictures, how you
(02:04):
can you can see like I was so lean. I
was in good shape. You know. The worst thing, I
over trained and hurt my back, especially when I was dehydrated.
I heard my bag and doctors came and check my bag,
and uh yeah, they said, like if you couldn't move,
(02:27):
if you couldn't make the way, just don't do that.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
So what do you think when you hear that for me?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And then you hear from data and you're like, oh
my god, this is so bad, right because you stepping
on the scale is a great thing. But then obviously
I have a big voice in MMA. Obviously Dana is
the voice in MMA. When you hear that, what do
you think, like as the guy that knows it wasn't
a way issue, it was a medical issue.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I'm met on the doctors because supposed to tell to
Donna what really happened and check my They checked my
bag and send me to do MRI or something and
made the right decision, you know, and and the Donna
like until nowadays, the thing like I have an issue
(03:17):
with my weight cut but never and uh, I'm I'm
professional and like everybody who is close to me, they
know me if I'm in the campboy, I if I'm
on the diet, I never eat like outside and uh
and I'm so disciplined for that, And how can I
(03:39):
miss that fight for the weight that's like biggest fight
in my life. It's gonna change my life as well,
and I'm gonna make a lot of money and like
after and I could be a champion and my life
is going to change.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You know, you get on the scale, Friday as the
backup fighter for Illiot to pour you Charles oliver going
into that fight, what was your expectation did you expect
Charles Olivera to be more competitive with the poor you
considering you and you and him had a decent fight
in the last one.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I I thought he's the gonna finish him in the
third round when because I thought Pua is not gonna
be rush and he's gonna like take his time because
he's so confident on his feet, he's not gonna rush it.
And but like like Olivera has no chin, you know,
(04:38):
he he like a lot of people drop him and
he plays guard. But he's getting old now, his chip
not there, and and he has a way so difficult
way cut as well, you know, and he his time
I guess passed. And stylistically his bad matchup for the
(04:59):
Tapua as well, because he has no wrestling to take
him down and on on the feet, how you can
beat the uh tapuya. And Oliveta has no good kicks
as well, Like he has push kick. He started very
well with pushkis and but then he just missed one
(05:19):
punch and started like play his game on the boxing distance.
How you can how you should You should work like
straight punches, you know, stay on the long distance. If
you're on the closed distance, you gotta like just run
out or like just go to the wrestling, you know,
try to take him down.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
So when you watch that, right, they pan to all
you guys sitting in the front row, and they want
your reaction. What was your immediate thought watching Illiot Toporia.
I mean, honestly knockout Charles Olavera after knocking out Max
Holloway and Alexander Volkanowski back together, Like, were you impressed
(06:00):
the performance of Ilia?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I was impressed because it happened in the first round,
But I knew that he has one of the best
boxing in our division right now, and he's the best
weapons he's boxing. So and when he knocked him out
like that, I was, yeah, I was. I was surprised,
(06:24):
Like he just he just he just like fall like
he just falls straight, you know. Yeah, So it was
was good knockout.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
You know, yeah what arm You were the number one
contend to go in to fight Islam.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
After the fight didn't happen, Dana famously said he has
to fight again. You go and you make the weight, right,
So it is assumed that by if the thought was
that you had a weight issue, you make the weight.
Now you're gonna find yourself back in the number one
contender position. But after the fight, the poor you starts
to call everybody out. He called you out, He called
(07:05):
Geegee out, he called Patty out. Patty was the one, though,
that walked into the octagon. First off, how that happened?
How did he become the one that got into the
octagon And it wasn't you who was then number one contender.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
I mean it was a Joe Rogan mistake.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Oh, Joe Rogan called him in.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yeah, Joe Rogan called him. It was the Joe Rogan mistake.
And he shouldn't like call his even name, like bring
him to the octagon, like, uh, Petty, he called the
petty to come to the octagon, and uh yeah, I
was surprised. But you know when Donna said it shouldn't
be like that, I said, Okay, hopefully he's not fighting
(07:48):
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Speaker 2 (09:12):
Were you upset when you were watching that, like as
you see Patty Pimblet, because it's hard to erase the
visual of that, right, Like in people's minds they saw
Patty Pimblet and Illiot the poia in the octagon, like
Patty was the next guy. Were you like upset knowing
that it's going to be an uphill battle now to
(09:34):
try and change what people probably expect to happen now,
even though in terms of what's earned, you deserve a
championship opportunity much more than Patty Pimblet right now.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I mean for the feels like twenty thirty minutes, I was,
of course upset because I said, this is not spoiled,
this is WWE they do. They can do whatever they
want to do. Like just you know, I've been fighting
for with everybody you know, and like I had a
(10:10):
good winning streak with a top top fighters, you know,
and and but and then when I listened to Donald's
interview about the Petty, I said, Okay, hopefully he's not
fighting for the title, and they must put me on
the title fight because because I'm number one contender mostly
(10:32):
deserved fighters right now and after me, they can't fight.
But you know, but next it's me for sure.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Have you heard anything in the days that since the
fight in regards to what's gonna happen in the future
at one with you and Ilia and Patty and Justin
Gagee who won his last fight and said that he
wants a championship opportunity.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, I mean, you see, gonna decided who's gonna fight
for the title. And but if you ask like fans
and people, they just call my name and they know,
like I'm real contender and and I know just me
can beat And.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
How do you think how do you think you beat
Iliot to Pour? You like, what do you make of him?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I mean, because he's a guy that you know, it
seems all well put together, right, beautiful family, great media presence,
can fight when you break him down in the fight side.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Of everything, How do you beat Iliot to pour you.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
It's just is it just a matter of the takedowns,
because the the the word or the story is that
he started as a wrestler and a grappler and he has.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Developed to become this tremendous striker.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
And if that's the case, that means that it would
be difficult to just control him with the wrestling.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I mean, i just need to fight and to show
everybody like I'm a different fighter and I've been improving
so so so much and my last fight, my last
fight was like one year and a half, and I'm
(12:19):
just can't wait to go there and to show like
who is the Urmansarukan and why I'm number one contender
and that day I'm gonna be a world champion. So
it's not just wrestling, it's a it's a I'm a
well rounded fighter and I'm not gonna just try to
wrestle him. I'm gonna strike him, I'm gonna kick him.
(12:40):
I'm gonna up kick him and you know, and like
try to do but yeah, obviously I'm not gonna try
to box him. I'm gonna try to do like a
real MMA fight to show him brastling, to punch him,
to punch him wrestling to show him brastling to kick him,
you know and like clinch work. Yeah. He I watched
(13:04):
his first fight and he was wrestling a little, but
he got tied so much and he never fought of
his wrestlers like me who knows like freestyle wrestling. He
had Brice Bruce Mitchell or what's his name, Bruce Mitchell,
Bryce Mitchell. As as the word he's the worst fighter
(13:24):
in one forty five. He took him down and hold
him like with the crazy from the trainy position. He
got his single leg and he even he took him
down like I mean, and he couldn't escape like one minute.
He just he was pulling the guard. If you if
(13:45):
you go good on the ground, you never pull guard.
You're just trying to sleep or like get up, get
up from there. I mean, I can tell he's not
the high level. Yeah. On the video he hiss passed
very well and like the fandom thing so like beautiful,
but I mean it's not double w uh. I can't
(14:07):
wait to show like everybody be't.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Funny you said Bryce Mitchell is the worst fighter at
one forty.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I mean no, I mean he's a I mean, did
you watch his fights, Dude, I've watched the fights. He
was like, he's like his kicks like he thinks he's
kicking the ball. I think like soccer, like soccer.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah, you're so crazy, Armor, You're crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Oh okay, you said that you would be the backup
fighter to weigh in for the BMF title fight.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Armand Why Uh? I mean if they call me, if
I need I need to be a backup, I'll be
back up.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
No, what are you doing? Now? Where are you? Are
you in Thailand?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I'm in Thailand.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
What are you doing? Trading?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah, this guy's don't be No, no, I'm in the
education one week. I'm kind on Sunday, one.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Week vacation in Thailand.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Come back started getting ready for a BMF championship, I mean,
come on, Armand.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
But no, no, no, no, no, no no. They didn't tell
me like you're going to be Yeah. Yeah, I'm saying
like if they need you, if some on the pull out,
if something happened, I'll be there and like try to
make my weight and fight for the title because that's
a good opportunity as well.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, all right, man, Well listen Islam. When Islam vacated
the belt to go to one seventy. People thought that
one fifty five might have a little bit of time
to like recover. But it seems like with Iliot to
poor you and now being the champion, you being here
and all those other contenders, the division is just kind
(15:47):
of waking up again with the change. And honestly, today,
armand I'm gonna tell you this, Iliot to Pouri is
now number one pound for pound in the ESPN MMA rankings.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
He deserves it to be a number one because he's
a two division champion, right, he's to the two division champion.
He like knocked out lost his fights, and like he
knocked out the goats, and I mean how he went
there and like knocked out charge Over in the first round,
and and Islam just move up. If Islam gonna win
(16:27):
the title in one seventy year, he's gonna be poumpha punk, right,
Yeah for sure, because yeah, it just takes time. But
I'll send the I'll send Toua back to top fifteen.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
You're confident against Ill. It's hard though, because I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I would when when the fight started, I wanted to
to pull your win because for me, it's easy to
fight to put it than.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Oliver understand that though I don't understand that armor.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Like, how can you say, because because I like, I
like to take down people. You know, when you take
down Charles A. La Vera, he still can like choke
you or something like do some Micha is gonna try
to get up. Just he's gonna like defend. He's not
gonna like and then you can like just go like
(17:20):
a thousand times to take him down because there isn't
no no problems on the ground. He's not gonna try
to choke you or something.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
He's well that Bryce Mitchell fight that you were speaking about,
he won that fight by submission.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I mean Bruss Mitchell, Bross Mitchell, Bruss Mitchell. He was,
he was, he was, he grew up who was wrestling?
Speaker 1 (17:50):
No, No, he didn't, No, he didn't he did.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I mean maybe he's a good guy, but not the best.
I mean, I will I wish he last fight. I mean,
he's triking. It's crazy where he trains even.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Enjoy your vacation, Champ, thank you for joining me, man.
I appreciate it. Hey have fun. Uh you can keep
that cavear to yourself. I don't want that ship.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I don't care if it's the most expensive caviar in
the world. I'm not eating it. That's is terrible salty.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Now you gotta you gotta comraadher bro and try their brother.
You're gonna change your mind.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Brother. I might as well take a thing of salt
and just pour it in my face.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
That's how this thinks, because because you don't try that
good one. But okay, one day, one day when you
see comes to Russia, yes, go and try it.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Black cavat.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, guys, that's Armand Serukian, the number one contending for
the lightweight championship in the world, is hoping he gets
a shot against Elliot to poor. Uh go follow everything
Armand's doing. He's the man, Yo. Your instagram is hilarious, Bro.
I don't know where you get the cars from. I
don't know where you get all this stuff, man, but
your instagram is hilarious.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
It's a fake brother, fake
Speaker 2 (19:15):
All right, Armand, thank you, thank you, Bye bye.
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