Daniel Cormier and Ben Askren are BACK with a brand new episode of Funky and the Champ! DC and Ben talk Kamaru Usman and Belal Muhammad's social media beef, and why Muhammad continuing to go at Usman is GIVING HIM a TITLE SHOT. Plus, Cormier and Askren get into the Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul fight, and debate if Joe Rogan has a point that Tyson could still put someone's lights out. And stick around for Askren giving DC PARENTING ADVICE! #Volume #Herd
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Speaker 1 (01:39):
All right, guys, welcome to another episode of Funk in
the Champ. I'm Daniel Cormier that's been asking what's up
funck you?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Ben? Hey man, I'm kind of glad now.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
That we're back on good terms because a couple of
days shit was messed up.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Doug, it was messed up.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Ben, you're too funny.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
That's not you attacked me personally, your old friend. You
packed me in front of other people. Friend, you would
have texted me on the side opposed to putting it
in front of.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Thirteen of them, all who are very judgmental.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Because it wasn't just about you, see you're you're feeling guilty,
but it was about multiple people. So that's why I
had to text it to multiple people, and you know,
I think the market a good friend is someone who
can tell you, hey, your ship stinks a little bit
cleaned up.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Hey, guys in the comments, tell us if your friends
should ruin your day in front of other people, or
if they should text you directly in the comments. Let
us know directly in front of people.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Oh, I'll call me a twist because you twiched it
because it wasn't about just you. It was about multiple people,
which is that was why I sent to multiple people.
And then you're making about just you, which it was not.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Okay, guys, and before we move on, it was about
multiple people, but the fact of the matter was the group.
The only person that was gut of the infraction was me.
So yes, it was about me in front of those people.
Got me in the comments, guys, let us know. All right, Ben,
So we got a few topics to discuss today, but
(03:12):
I want to start with Kamorrow Usman said something positive
about Kobe Covington. I like Kamorrow Usman. He's my guy,
I am. I like him a lot. He's a friend
of mine. I will preface this before we get into
this conversation, and then I want to talk to you
a little bit. Well, yes, please don't be too crazy,
(03:37):
because I know at times you get a little bit crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
But Kamorrow Rusman said this.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Kamorrow Rushman said, I say it all the time, and
I know people can't believe the fact that I would
actually go credit to Kobe Covington. I used to hear
it all the time where people would say, you need
a dance partner, you need a great dance partner in
the fight.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
The first fight, it was so much.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Tension to where it challenged me so much to prepare,
to train and to go out there and just get
locked into the zone. It was almost addicting, that zone
where I don't care what happens. That's a great rival
to have. Ushman said for me, I've always learned very
early on that I'm very self motivated. But I learned
very early on that it's a fight against myself. I
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always wanted to prove myself wrong, and a lot of
his fights it was me shocking myself. Wow, I really
was able to do that. I really fought the battle
in my mind to do that. So he's essentially saying
Cobe Covington.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Was a great dance partner. For him.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
But on the other hand, he's saying he fought himself
kind of so while he did credit Kobe Covington, he
is also saying that him, Kamar ro Usman, was able
to elevate himself to these different levels. So it kind
of sounds like he doesn't really need Kobe Coveton.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I will have to say there was a little bit
of confusion that statement. He said a few different things
that may or may not have contradicted each other. He
definitely he definitely uh, definitely complimenting Kolbe, and I think
his complition that's probably I mean, yes, a little bit,
but I mean it's a truth. I believe it to
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be a true statement what he said there. Uh, And
then I mean both parts of it where you need
a good dance partner, and then that Kolbe was a
good dance partner for him. I remember I did this
show with front ro'brian a podcast, well back in one
of the things we did.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
That's the name I haven't heard for a long Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Well, he's he has a different personality on Twitter, which
I won't disclose.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
But why I want to know.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
He got quick He got kicked off Twitter for dosing someone,
but it was one of those It was one of
those petals held a guy who likes Child's and uh,
he only linked an article at to which the guy
was actually getting arrested. So I don't really see anything. Yes,
so I don't really see aything wrong with what he
did there.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Because it was like his story is you still talk
to front Robriant?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah, of course, So he has a new he has
a new personality on Twitter. And so we did one show,
we did Best Personalities in Mixed Martial Arts. It was
a lot of fun. But one of the things you
noticed we did a top ten was they had almost
all have another opponent on the top ten, right, So
like Diaz and McGregor or you and John Jones were
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both on there, right, So you have to have that
guy to bounce off of otherwise you're not gonna be
out there. And obviously sometimes it goes like, you know,
there's three or four guys in the same way class,
in the same range who kind of like bounce off
each other potentially, So yeah, I agree totally you need
a great dance partner. And they, I mean, those guys
were pitiful and talking trash to each other, but they
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had a really great fight.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I love what they were. I love what they were
to each other, the rivalry. The fights were always really
good too, They were competitive, they were close at times.
Obviously Kamara Usman was.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
The better fighter on those occasions and then went on
to have one of the best title reigns in UFC
Walterway history.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I love that you get if you don't have that guy.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
If you don't have that guy, then every fight starts
to feel like ritz and repeat. It's like when I
was done with John Jones at that part of my career,
and I was lucky, right because I had Rumble twice,
I had Jones twice, I had step A three times,
were I had seven title fights between three people. So
I had those types of guys constantly in my career.
(07:25):
But when I was able to break away from them,
when I fought the Gustafson and the Volcanos de Mirrors
and Eric lewis Is, it didn't feel the same because
it didn't feel like it had that.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Underlying thing with the fight.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
It was just a fight. And I believe that you
do need that guy, and you do train harder, you
do do a little more. Whenever you have that person
that motivates you. But I do also believe that being
able to motivate yourself within is very important. I think
Usman relies on that also, But that's when you have
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to have that. In those other fights. While he was
able to beat the rest of those guys, his best
performances were against Kobe, against Gilbert Burns.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Remember they had the whole teammate thing going on. It
was always that thing that had a little more with it.
Did you ever have that?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Like, I know you fought Masvidal and you guys had
that bad issue, but it never really that wasn't even
a fight.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Well, I don't care there was a fight.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I mean unfortunately I made him very popular based on that,
which is not good for me. But you know, I
mean obviously I know what's trying to do here because
I know you, I know Daniel, I know. Yeah, for me,
it was Chris prying to what am.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I trying to do?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
You're trying to give me Chris Pelton.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
No, no, no, no, I'm not trying to I'm not.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
That was him, Daniel. That was That was it for
me right from my ride. My biggest rivalry happened way
earlier with Chris Penalton, and I've said I've been a
record multiple times saying that that made me a significantly
better wrestler because I always felt like I was chasing
someone and if you take get him out, I kind
of whooped everyone else, you know, So that happened as
(09:05):
motivated because I was kind of killing everyone else. But
then there was this one guy for two years who
I couldn't beat, and you know, I obviously continue to
beat motivated after that, but you take him out, and
I think, you know, maybe my progress slows a little bit,
or maybe a little too cocky too early or something
like that. So yeah, I think those type of portents
are really important.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Tomorrow Usman, dude, it's crazy, right because he's one of
the gravest walk plaints of all time. But at this
point he has now lost three fights in a row.
But bro, he is on the mind of the champion.
Below Mohammed like nothing I've ever seen in my entire life.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Are you watching what's happening?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Even better of him on the trash talk.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
But okay, even though he's getting the better of him
is below Mohammed speaking Tomorrow Usman into a title fight.
Did you see the video he put up today. Did
you see the video? Hey, on the video. Run the video.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
That's what we're talking about, right, The video of.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Kamara who's running blow made like a song.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah, and he's like stomping and these talking punches. Yes,
that one man look at this video, bro No, I mean,
you know one way that someone could look at this, right,
is that usman has a big name. He's a former champion,
one of the longest reigning Wealthway champions. It's you know, him,
Tiring and Georgia's are the three longer reigning well Toway champions.
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Leon's gon have to win a few more to get
into that category. And so one of the ways that
Bilall could see it is this is a guy who
has a big name, who held the belt for a while,
and now he's over the hill. So he could be
an easier opponent for me.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Is he over the hill? He looked pretty good at
Jamiah fight. But he looked good at Jamiah fight.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
But now that I feel like that's a little bit ago.
I mean, we find exact time and date on that.
Oh yeah, that's yeah, that's thirty a year ago. So
once you get over the hill, you get over the hill. Fast,
and so you know, he's thirty seven or thirty, he's
a little younger than I am. Thirty seven, thirty eight,
I would say, And so you know, maybe potentially he's
looking at that fight versus you know, a shov cut.
(11:06):
He's going to be well known, but he's not he's
not huge yet. Or Dan Dela Mandelena is he's big,
but he's not huge yet.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Right, So, well, Jack Devila's hurt. Jack Devila's hurt, so
he's her recovering.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
So it would be shapcott if there was someone young
as a contender.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
But dude, Usman's not washed up? Well, can we preface
that you and.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
You, I would say, he's likely over the hill.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Could we please at least admit that you and Tomorrow
don't have the greatest relationship because it's coming off like that.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Please could you say.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
That, Yeah, I do not like him. That being said,
I believe my judgment to be correct, uh, in that
you know, we have the stat we already have the
stat that the fighters over the age of thirty five
at one seventy under like two and thirty seven. So
it's like the facts are on my side as well.
So he just fought me on and then you have Usban,
(11:58):
you have Rockmanoff, you have Dayla Mandel, and you have Kobe.
And so you know, Ball has been saying Kobe's name
also because and I think he's thinking that's.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Not like Kobe though. He always he always says Kobe sucks,
like right away, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeah, for sure. So yeah, man, I think he's looking
at a big name, and that's that's what you want
to build your name and your legacy. Is another big
name to be across from you. Uh, And he's who
does Maybe Marty still got some gas in the tank,
but maybe he doesn't. Maybe that's I love his gimmick.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I love his new gimmick. I'm honest. I love I
love the new Ballah Muhammad.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I love his gimmick. He's so disrespectful, bro. He disrespectful
and everything. He disrespects Kobe, he disrespects.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Who's He always always hated Koby. He always hated Kobe.
You guys all hate Kobe though.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Because Kobe's a douche.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Not that bad, bro. Kobe is not that bad. Stop,
I'm serious. Kobe is not that bad, bro. Like, he
is not that bad.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
I don't know, you guys, maybe it' because you guys
are just waiting something. What you guys golf together. You
get the golf buddies, aren't you.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
No, I'm just saying he's not that bad means because
you guys are in the same weight so you guys
can't really get onto the Kobe coventy thing.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
But of him, it's fine with me. Listen, we are friends.
We don't have to grant everything. I think Kobe sucks
your feel the free, fe free however you want to
feel about him. Why do you think he's most of
the comments? Who's right? Damn?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Put it?
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Paul does Kobe Kobe?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Ben is right? We will make Luise make a graphic.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Lou make a graphic, get the department, get the department
to make a graphic. We'll throw it up on Twitter.
Who does Kobe suck or does he not suck? It
will throw it on Twitter to find out what people
think about Kobe Covton.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I don't think. I don't think he's that bad.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
On you know, I mean, Machana Gary is probably.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
He's not ready for a title fight, man.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
I mean, I'm just looking at the welt ofweight division
of like, who can you do the Demila Matt Atlanta guy,
he's really tough, but you're telling me he's hurt. Rock
Monno is really tough, so you know, but I was
probably thinking, Hey, let me get a big name, let
me get the best days are probably pasted him, and
let me see if I can't build my reputation here.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I don't know that his best days. I'm gonna disagree.
I don't know his best day is passing. But it
is the biggest name. Right.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
To beat Leon Edwards, then to beat Kamara Rousmann back
to back would be massive for a guy like Baala
Muhammad so Ben. Last week we talked about Dana White
and the cut right, the cut that Morob had, and
Dana went off on him right, and yesterday Dana was
asked about the same cut. He asked about Morod dualers
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Vili and he was asked about all this.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
So he was saying that at this point Morob's awesome.
Morob is cool, but.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
He thinks that Morob is just messing with him, Bro,
because Marab was taking out his own stitches.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Doug, did you see the video, Morob?
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Have you never taken out your own stitches?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Daniel? But no, Bro, he was not holding like when
they take out.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Some funny thing. He usually used you usually use some
really small scissors. Yes, yes, yes, he was.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Taking these big m had these big scissors and he's
just ripping stitches of dudes got like weed eaters.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
He's like things.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
That's using the garden to like take the stitches out.
Do you think when you watch him do that, him going,
it's not I told you it wasn't that big a deal.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Yes, I met. Yes, I think he's trying to make
light event. I mean that was my tape last week
is and today as of today when we're taping right now,
I think we're eighteen days away from the fight still,
and so he has eighteen days left to heal and
the stitch is already out. Like, I think it's a
non issue. I think Dana overreacted last week or whatever
was last week, whenever the last.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Time it was last week, last week.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yeah, I think Dana maybe overreacted a little bit to that.
And yeah, I think Rob's fine. It's gonna be a
non issue. But yes, is he's funny.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Sure is he is?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Like how how in the world do these how the
world do these foreigners? How are they like unintentionally funny.
It's not as hilarious he was hilarious like this Morob dude,
he's so funny, and he doesn't seem to take himself serious.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
That's a big part of it, right there was that
that he doesn't take himself too seriously, you know, and
that's uh, you know what, it's refreshing, and that was
I think one of the reasons I caught on is
because I don't take myself too seriously. I let Daniel
call me a pick on me all the time. And
because there's too many of these dudes that do take
themselves so seriously, and so it's like, oh, like, not
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another one of you guys. So a lot of them
are like that. So, you know, Morob is refreshing.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Why a fighters so sensitive? Dude? It's bad?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I mean it is bad.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Like, bro, you know that Joaquim Buckley has still been
trying to fight me. And but why why.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
No no listen? I actually so wake if you're listening,
is don't be mad at me too, just confriends with Daniel.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
But I agree with Daniel, and I like Waki Buckley.
I think he's a good dude. Trains and Nick Simmons
you better say cut no. I agreed. I agreed with
you totally. And this is where he can don't take
you to the Celtier. Seriously, you're not gonna hit one
hundred percent of the time, right, Daniel Corey me. Maybe
you'll have a good drive once in a while. But
he shanks something into the woods when he calls That's
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what Joaquin Buckley did on that post fight. He shanked
it into the woods calling out McGregor. It was just ridiculous. Like,
I mean, maybe if you're gonna do something like that,
make one line about him, but don't make the whole
thing about him, right, Like say one line, like you know,
just to get his name in there and then go
off on somebody else would have been much better.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
You have no idea how bad he's how mad. Jaquem
Buckle is gonna.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Well, he needs to stop. He needs to stop. You
gave him good advice.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
The Joaquim Buckley's gonna see me in Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
He said he looks forward to running into me, So
he's been praying to run into me.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
So well, that's okay. So I mean that's where like
you have a large personality of large following and so
a lot of these fighters, like they're almost constantly thinking,
I don't want I think cloud chasing is overused. But
maybe that's it, you know a little bit like they
wanted to what type of interactions can I get to
make you get care, to make people care?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, So Morob when he went into the ring initially
with Sean O'Malley, he grabbed his jacket.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Why was that enough? Why was that enough? Why was
that enough? And why this? That was funny, that was great,
But why he's fighting al Jamine Sterling. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
It's just like it was just something hilarious that he
grabbed the stolen He wren't. I don't know, like I
was laughing. Tell me you weren't laughing at that.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I was, But I was like, well, it was because
it was It was because it was the jacket. It
was the red jacket.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
It was a it was a ridiculous it was a
ridiculous jacket.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
You thought that Michael Jackson looking jacket was ridiculous?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I thought, yes, I thought that.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I thought it was one of the most stylish things
I've seen a person wear with no shirt. O'madley was wearing.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
That shirt to long, broh, what California you do? Don't
forget your roots. You're from the Louisiana and then Oklahoma.
That shit don't fly around here in the Midwest.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Wait, the Mia Jackson. The jacket don't fly in the Midwest.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Could you imagine Sugar Show showing up in there with
a jacket like that, with no tattoos and no shirt.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Could you imagine he walks in Wisconsin like that? Could you? Mad?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Well, it's it's good for him that he can fight
as well as he can, because if he couldn't, he'd
be getting bullied all the time. I just told my hey,
I had a great father son talked this morning, and
cause you know, my son six now, and he got
he got his Some kids are harassed him yesterday and
he tackled one of them and they're like in the
picture line for school for the year.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So what happened?
Speaker 4 (19:42):
And my wife, um me, I talk to him. Now,
I didn't really get in trouble.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
So but so I said, you know that doesn't happen
here right in the Midwest. The teacher will go, Okay,
your kid doesn't look my son did one Superman punch
one one does one Superman punch bro. He wants to
be Roman raids. The kid was bullying him. He does
one Superman punch and I get a call talking about
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we understand how he grew He's growing up in a
tough household.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I'm like, my household's not tough. I have the salt.
I'm the softest part in the world. But he was
he got in trouble. It wasn't like he got in trouble.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Well I did, so I did tell him. Here's I'll
give you a talk. I told my son that. I said,
you know, if you're gonna grow up and you're gonna
be a man, men kind of pick on each other
a little bit. You know, if your friend Daniel Cormier
maybe more than others. But I said, in order to
defend yourself, you have to be able to verbally assault
them back or physically assault them back. Now, the problem
is you physically assault them in school, you're probably getting trouble.
(20:45):
So maybe you gotta wait till after school. You're wrestling
with that.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
What you are saying this to your six year old son,
You're going to create a bully.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
No, no, I said, you can't bully them. But if
somebody's bullying you do You know this your funny because
you know this for sure. There's only two ways to
stop someone from picking on you. You gotta fight fire with fire,
so you either verbally assault them or physically assault them,
and then they know that there's a much easier targets.
Don't pick on that dude. Yeah, yeah, And then I
(21:15):
mean the other thing obviously, and this is one of
the ones that fighters should probably use more often because
of who fighters are. But if it's someone below you,
you cannot only just ignore them, right, you can just
I'm not gonna respond to you. You're not worth my time.
But as you know, as like an elementary school in
middle school, that tactic doesn't really work all that much.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
No, they pickle in middle school or in elementary school.
I had it badly these guys. Oh my god, I
hadn't so bad. I don't know. I was a little
dirty kid. I had no new clues. Dirty.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
It's a little dirty boy, you know, like because of
my skin color. Like if dirt gets on my face,
it looks like it smears. I was always sweating, bro.
I played at recess until like eighth grade. I'm in
eighth grade, running on the ground play like basketball kids
kids started. Dude, my middle school, they took us off
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the playground. They put us in front of the.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
School with no toys, just sit on the grass. They
wanted to encourage you that when you got to high
school there were no more toys to play with at recess.
So bro, everybody on the grass. Everybody just sat on
the grass. Nobody was bro, I swear to god.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
In my middle school, they took us off the playground
where the basketball who were in the monkey bars. They
put us in front of the school where it was
a big old grass pasture with a whole bunch of chairs.
So at lunch you sat down and you talked to
get ready.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
For high school. So high school there's no recess, but
in middle school, like, dudes are still Dudes are still
in sports in high school. But you know, you go
play football at recess or you know, baseball at recess.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
We couldn't do nothing. We didn't do that. We literally
just sat there and talked. It was crazy. But yes,
fighters are sensitive. That is one thing that is absolutely true.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I don't know what do you think about my parents advice? Daniel?
How do you how do you rate it? One?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Okayn so so.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
My wife doesn't watch the show, so work. I had
to work on his cross. I said, you got him
with the knuckle. You know, because when they throw a
bunch of something, does.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Your wife watch this?
Speaker 4 (23:24):
I said, listen, I said, don't do it in school,
but sometimes you just got sticking one because I remember,
I said, you know I got picked I think I
think everyone got picked on. I got picked on, but
I remember one time I just threw the headlocked this
can I squeeze so freaking hard and people stop picking
on me because they didn't want get headlocked.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
You know?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
That is how that is how I stopped getting bullied.
I beat up a really tough guy. It was over.
I got double leg was I double leg on? He's
like what you know what they said to me? No wrestling,
No wrestling. They're like, no wrestling.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I was like, the hell with that light.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
You need to learn wrestle if you don't want to
get your ass taken down and beat them.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I can't, Honeymager. I was scratching him, I was punching it.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I don't encourage I don't encourage my kids to fight.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
No, we need to. We need to bring fighting back.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I love your parenting advice.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I don't know that in California, I would encourage my
son to wait till.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
After school to fight with the kid. It just doesn't
work like that here.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I've been inviting you to leave the state of California.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
I know you have you got man.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
The weather is beautiful in the place. It's just beautiful.
I love I love California, man. I know, Hey, maybe
you don't get to beat people up on the street
as much as you do in Wisconsin places. I'll trade it.
I'll trade. It'll be a good trade off for me.
I'll reserve myself from beating kids at wrestling tournaments. I'll
reserve myself for my children beating people up at school.
(24:56):
To just live in California, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Then, that's just me. It's my choice.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I get to do that, all right, Ben, let's go
before you go, Before you go, Oh, listen, see.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
What we came out here talking about MMA and now
we're we're given parenting advice and.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
It's been awesome.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
This was like one of my favorite shows so far
because now help people know who you are. That now
those comments with whether or not Ben was right or
I was right, because he was bullying me in that
group of people.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
You know who was wrong? This guy.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I don't bully people. I don't bully people.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
You bullied me in that group message it were supposed to.
You know.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
The reason we became friends, why, like a long now
this has been what's say, it's say sixteen years, probably
is because I didn't let you bully me. You you
go wrong, bullied everyone else, and everyone else was kind
to you.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
And I said to you, yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
And I said, listen, you got a verbally assault them back,
and I would give it to you.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I had to trade the center. You constantly picked on me.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
You had no respect, you had you had no respect
for the fact that I was the sea, you a
member of the team.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
You disrespected me from day one.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
You dis I was the only one who went to
rollover for you. Yeah, it was it was you know
the other one you med we actually have to we
should do a shout out on the show that wanted
to do this, because the only other one you didn't
mess with, and I think it was likely because you
were scared of him, was Steve Maco. His son just
wanted sevent Can.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
You believe that the son won the world? Oh my god,
what I wouldn't do for my son to win the world.
I would pay whatever money you could imagine for my
son to be a world champion.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
And he killed everybody. Know, you know what's crazy. Two
years ago he wasn't very good.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
He just got good. Little Michael just got so good
in a short period of time. Steve's doing it right
down there, man, he's training kids out of America, top team.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Great job. Hey, last thing been before you go. So
Joe Rogan was talking about the Mike Tyson versus Jake PAULA,
I can't believe.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
I thought that. I thought everything that is gonna I
thought that was gonna blow over it.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
What's happening. It's actually happening.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
We're doing a preview on the volume on my channel.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
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talking about Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson here. I'm googling
it right now. Me at sixty versus me at twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I just hope to both of them that it transcends
the circus type of atmosphere and it's a legit fight
and nobody gets hurt.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
He said.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
But me at sixty versus me at twenty eight different.
But it's Mike Tyson, so it's very very different. He said,
what bother them the most is that he's got to
kind of slide back into that warrior, and I'm not
sure that he needed to do it, but it feels
like he's saying that Mike could catch Jake Paul. Do
you anticipate that there's a chance for Mike to catch
(28:46):
Jake Paul?
Speaker 4 (28:48):
My reasoning and my logic, and I know, I know
this doesn't work out all the time, but here is
my logic and reasoning is that Mike Tyson Roy Jones
fought in a very competitive about even back back and forth,
and then Roy Jones lost to Anthony Pettis, who was
a very good striker but as much as much smaller, right,
(29:11):
and it is probably past his prime. And you know,
Jake Paul is probably you know, he's probably legitimate one
a five. He'd be big at one a five, so
he's probably bigger than that. Anthony was a fifty five pounder, right,
So we're dealing with much different sized people. I just
feel like fifty eight is I mean, yes, you probably
(29:32):
the one thing you probably retain is the power, So
it's probably my tights needs to catch him, but the
gas tank and all the other things go along with it.
Are definitely go downhill, especially when you haven't been doing
it very competitively.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
You're you're but you're fifty eight years old.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Okay, So I just wanted that arm and I was
kind of trying to skip around, and I butchered the
shit out of it.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
It was terrible.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
But let me give you just the quote, because again
I'm trying to find this. Come on, lou Luis, come home, baby.
You got to help the boy out. But anyway he did,
Luis said, this.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Is the quote.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Fifty eight is fifty eight.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
No matter what you're taking and what they're doing for you,
you're still fifty eight. But fifty eight year old Mike
Tyson is not fifty eight year old Mike Jones that
lives down the street. He's a different type of human being.
He can still knock your head into another dimension if
he can catch you. So again to that point he's saying,
(30:26):
doesn't matter the age. If Mike catches you, he can
knock you out, you know what. The thing about it
to me is I understand that, and I get it,
and I get what he's saying, and I do agree
that the way Mike looks on those pads when he
is hitting pats with Raphael Cordero. It looks like there's
still something left in there. But then I watched Jake
(30:49):
Paul fight Mike Perry, and I watch Jake Paul get
pressed to where he starts to feel uncomfortable, and it
looked like Mike Perry had a chance. But then Jake
has a reserve tank to go to and get and
draw from because he's twenty eight years old. And then
he comes back and he ultimately finishes Mike Perry. But
(31:10):
early in the fight, Mike Perry's like Mike Perry's getting
beat on drop. He looks out manned, he looks out matched.
But then after he starts middle rounds, he starts to
work his way back into the fight. Mike Perry is
also a young guy. But then as the fight went longer,
Jake Paul draws on this reserve. Yeah, finishes Mike period.
Many believe that in that reserve is a few UH
(31:36):
banned things, But at the end of the day, it
allows for Jake to draw from that and put himself
on the path to get a victory. That is my
concern because one of this thing looks like a fifty
eight year old man fighting a twenty eight year old man.
When Mike can't draw from that reserve tank to stay
and compete with this young kid.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yeah, I mean I feel like that's how it's going
to go, that it's going to be competitive early and
fifty eight is old and he's probably get tired. And yeah,
I mean I've said I think it's not a win
win because I think, like, I think it's kind of dumb, because.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I think it's a lose lose for Jake Paul.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
That's that's how I feel. Yes, I agree, because everyone
was Mike Tyson, you're beating up Mike Tyson was fifty
eight year old. Why do you want to fight a
fifty eight year old? He's fifty eight, he has he
hasn't been actively competitive in twenty years.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
How do you? How do you? How do you think
this came about? How do you?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
What's the conversation look like when a guy goes, I
want to fight Mike Tyson.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I mean maybe the same thing I said, The same
thing I said is bald right, where you know, it's like,
who's the biggest name that I can fight? Who I
could possibly beat? Right with the less risk less amount
of risk, the least amount of risk.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yes, at least amount of risks. Hey, hey Floyd maywean
the fought last weekend. Bro, I had no idea Floyd.
Maybe it was still boxes.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
It's something weird about but he's not. It was like
an exhibition. It was like fau Gott he is or something,
but he's fun before what is going on with this?
I have no idea. It's so crazy, Like that's why
we're like, who paid for that? Because to your point,
I had no idea. I saw it on Twitter the
next day, like I had no idea that uh was
doing it.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Mike Tyson actually doesn't really need the money, so it's
surprising to me that he's fighting.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, very surprising to me.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I think I think he does like what the Pauls
are doing bringing attention to boxing, and maybe he wants to.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah you said that, push that forward.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
I think that's probably most likely because yeah, I don't
think he needs money and think he's probably happy he's old.
You know, maybe he does. Listen, I told you this,
I would wrestle another matter too, like I don't want
to do a tournament, although I was giving at a
lot of money. I listen, I had a great bike
workout yesterday, Daniell, I pushed myself hard and I said,
you know, I want to write me a check if
(33:53):
I miss eligibility, I'm in ben.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
But let me ask you this, though. Tell me a
sixty year old person in your life and tell me
do you think that they can compete at any level?
Speaker 4 (34:06):
I would say there's zero precedents in any combat sport.
I mean, have we ever had one or fifty? What
was that one that Bernard Hopkins? Didn't he fight for
a really long time, like he was like an iron
long time, like a really long time.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
What if Mike knocks him out though, then it's over? Then?
Like where do you where does jam?
Speaker 4 (34:23):
I mean where is all the time?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Everything's done? It would be an all time backfar. I
don't think nothing's ever been done like that in the
history of sports.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
If he gets knocked out, yeah, I see how long
did Bernard Hopkins fight for?
Speaker 2 (34:36):
He is Bernard was the man at forty at forty.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
The bets, Yeah, I want to even later Danielle last,
Oh my gods, last fight. Now he did lose his
last few, but it looks like, well, look and listen,
I know there's a lot of organization boxing. But it
looks like he retained his heavyweight title age forty nine
and he lost it uh later that year to co Layout.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Okay, oh he caught Covid Levett at forty years old.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yes, well, but Nord Hopkins is a beast seriously, so yeah,
Brian just said he fought at fifty one years old
Bernard Hopkins, so maybe hey, oh, now.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I'm starting to believe. I'm starting to believe. Man, I'm
starting to believe.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
No, I mean, we all love to see it. What
I don't. Let let's not get her help stop.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
This dude?
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Then is funny? Santam may not bring you anything nice,
but he does. It'll be a great surprise.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Just take it and be happy. Taken, be happy. Then
you're the man bro. I love doing it. I love
it all right, guys, Hey, that's been asking.
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Speaker 1 (01:39):
All right, guys, welcome to another episode of Funk in
the Champ. I'm Daniel Cormier that's been asking what's up
funck you?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Ben? Hey man, I'm kind of glad now.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
That we're back on good terms because a couple of
days shit was messed up.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Doug, it was messed up.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Ben, you're too funny.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
That's not you attacked me personally, your old friend. You
packed me in front of other people. Friend, you would
have texted me on the side opposed to putting it
in front of.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Thirteen of them, all who are very judgmental.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Because it wasn't just about you, see you're you're feeling guilty,
but it was about multiple people. So that's why I
had to text it to multiple people, and you know,
I think the market a good friend is someone who
can tell you, hey, your ship stinks a little bit
cleaned up.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Hey, guys in the comments, tell us if your friends
should ruin your day in front of other people, or
if they should text you directly in the comments. Let
us know directly in front of people.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Oh, I'll call me a twist because you twiched it
because it wasn't about just you. It was about multiple people,
which is that was why I sent to multiple people.
And then you're making about just you, which it was not.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Okay, guys, and before we move on, it was about
multiple people, but the fact of the matter was the group.
The only person that was gut of the infraction was me.
So yes, it was about me in front of those people.
Got me in the comments, guys, let us know. All right, Ben,
So we got a few topics to discuss today, but
(03:12):
I want to start with Kamorrow Usman said something positive
about Kobe Covington. I like Kamorrow Usman. He's my guy,
I am. I like him a lot. He's a friend
of mine. I will preface this before we get into
this conversation, and then I want to talk to you
a little bit. Well, yes, please don't be too crazy,
(03:37):
because I know at times you get a little bit crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
But Kamorrow Rusman said this.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Kamorrow Rushman said, I say it all the time, and
I know people can't believe the fact that I would
actually go credit to Kobe Covington. I used to hear
it all the time where people would say, you need
a dance partner, you need a great dance partner in
the fight.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
The first fight, it was so much.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Tension to where it challenged me so much to prepare,
to train and to go out there and just get
locked into the zone. It was almost addicting, that zone
where I don't care what happens. That's a great rival
to have. Ushman said for me, I've always learned very
early on that I'm very self motivated. But I learned
very early on that it's a fight against myself. I
(04:18):
always wanted to prove myself wrong, and a lot of
his fights it was me shocking myself. Wow, I really
was able to do that. I really fought the battle
in my mind to do that. So he's essentially saying
Cobe Covington.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Was a great dance partner. For him.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
But on the other hand, he's saying he fought himself
kind of so while he did credit Kobe Covington, he
is also saying that him, Kamar ro Usman, was able
to elevate himself to these different levels. So it kind
of sounds like he doesn't really need Kobe Coveton.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I will have to say there was a little bit
of confusion that statement. He said a few different things
that may or may not have contradicted each other. He
definitely he definitely uh, definitely complimenting Kolbe, and I think
his complition that's probably I mean, yes, a little bit,
but I mean it's a truth. I believe it to
(05:12):
be a true statement what he said there. Uh, And
then I mean both parts of it where you need
a good dance partner, and then that Kolbe was a
good dance partner for him. I remember I did this
show with front ro'brian a podcast, well back in one
of the things we did.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
That's the name I haven't heard for a long Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Well, he's he has a different personality on Twitter, which
I won't disclose.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
But why I want to know.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
He got quick He got kicked off Twitter for dosing someone,
but it was one of those It was one of
those petals held a guy who likes Child's and uh,
he only linked an article at to which the guy
was actually getting arrested. So I don't really see anything. Yes,
so I don't really see aything wrong with what he
did there.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Because it was like his story is you still talk
to front Robriant?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah, of course, So he has a new he has
a new personality on Twitter. And so we did one show,
we did Best Personalities in Mixed Martial Arts. It was
a lot of fun. But one of the things you
noticed we did a top ten was they had almost
all have another opponent on the top ten, right, So
like Diaz and McGregor or you and John Jones were
(06:18):
both on there, right, So you have to have that
guy to bounce off of otherwise you're not gonna be
out there. And obviously sometimes it goes like, you know,
there's three or four guys in the same way class,
in the same range who kind of like bounce off
each other potentially, So yeah, I agree totally you need
a great dance partner. And they, I mean, those guys
were pitiful and talking trash to each other, but they
(06:38):
had a really great fight.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I love what they were. I love what they were
to each other, the rivalry. The fights were always really
good too, They were competitive, they were close at times.
Obviously Kamara Usman was.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
The better fighter on those occasions and then went on
to have one of the best title reigns in UFC
Walterway history.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I love that you get if you don't have that guy.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
If you don't have that guy, then every fight starts
to feel like ritz and repeat. It's like when I
was done with John Jones at that part of my career,
and I was lucky, right because I had Rumble twice,
I had Jones twice, I had step A three times,
were I had seven title fights between three people. So
I had those types of guys constantly in my career.
(07:25):
But when I was able to break away from them,
when I fought the Gustafson and the Volcanos de Mirrors
and Eric lewis Is, it didn't feel the same because
it didn't feel like it had that.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Underlying thing with the fight.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
It was just a fight. And I believe that you
do need that guy, and you do train harder, you
do do a little more. Whenever you have that person
that motivates you. But I do also believe that being
able to motivate yourself within is very important. I think
Usman relies on that also, But that's when you have
(07:58):
to have that. In those other fights. While he was
able to beat the rest of those guys, his best
performances were against Kobe, against Gilbert Burns.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Remember they had the whole teammate thing going on. It
was always that thing that had a little more with it.
Did you ever have that?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Like, I know you fought Masvidal and you guys had
that bad issue, but it never really that wasn't even
a fight.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Well, I don't care there was a fight.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I mean unfortunately I made him very popular based on that,
which is not good for me. But you know, I
mean obviously I know what's trying to do here because
I know you, I know Daniel, I know. Yeah, for me,
it was Chris prying to what am.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I trying to do?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
You're trying to give me Chris Pelton.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
No, no, no, no, I'm not trying to I'm not.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
That was him, Daniel. That was That was it for
me right from my ride. My biggest rivalry happened way
earlier with Chris Penalton, and I've said I've been a
record multiple times saying that that made me a significantly
better wrestler because I always felt like I was chasing
someone and if you take get him out, I kind
of whooped everyone else, you know, So that happened as
(09:05):
motivated because I was kind of killing everyone else. But
then there was this one guy for two years who
I couldn't beat, and you know, I obviously continue to
beat motivated after that, but you take him out, and
I think, you know, maybe my progress slows a little bit,
or maybe a little too cocky too early or something
like that. So yeah, I think those type of portents
are really important.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Tomorrow Usman, dude, it's crazy, right because he's one of
the gravest walk plaints of all time. But at this
point he has now lost three fights in a row.
But bro, he is on the mind of the champion.
Below Mohammed like nothing I've ever seen in my entire life.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Are you watching what's happening?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Even better of him on the trash talk.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
But okay, even though he's getting the better of him
is below Mohammed speaking Tomorrow Usman into a title fight.
Did you see the video he put up today. Did
you see the video? Hey, on the video. Run the video.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
That's what we're talking about, right, The video of.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Kamara who's running blow made like a song.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah, and he's like stomping and these talking punches. Yes,
that one man look at this video, bro No, I mean,
you know one way that someone could look at this, right,
is that usman has a big name. He's a former champion,
one of the longest reigning Wealthway champions. It's you know, him,
Tiring and Georgia's are the three longer reigning well Toway champions.
(10:28):
Leon's gon have to win a few more to get
into that category. And so one of the ways that
Bilall could see it is this is a guy who
has a big name, who held the belt for a while,
and now he's over the hill. So he could be
an easier opponent for me.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Is he over the hill? He looked pretty good at
Jamiah fight. But he looked good at Jamiah fight.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
But now that I feel like that's a little bit ago.
I mean, we find exact time and date on that.
Oh yeah, that's yeah, that's thirty a year ago. So
once you get over the hill, you get over the hill. Fast,
and so you know, he's thirty seven or thirty, he's
a little younger than I am. Thirty seven, thirty eight,
I would say, And so you know, maybe potentially he's
looking at that fight versus you know, a shov cut.
(11:06):
He's going to be well known, but he's not he's
not huge yet. Or Dan Dela Mandelena is he's big,
but he's not huge yet.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Right, So, well, Jack Devila's hurt. Jack Devila's hurt, so
he's her recovering.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
So it would be shapcott if there was someone young
as a contender.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
But dude, Usman's not washed up? Well, can we preface
that you and.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
You, I would say, he's likely over the hill.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Could we please at least admit that you and Tomorrow
don't have the greatest relationship because it's coming off like that.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Please could you say.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
That, Yeah, I do not like him. That being said,
I believe my judgment to be correct, uh, in that
you know, we have the stat we already have the
stat that the fighters over the age of thirty five
at one seventy under like two and thirty seven. So
it's like the facts are on my side as well.
So he just fought me on and then you have Usban,
(11:58):
you have Rockmanoff, you have Dayla Mandel, and you have Kobe.
And so you know, Ball has been saying Kobe's name
also because and I think he's thinking that's.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Not like Kobe though. He always he always says Kobe sucks,
like right away, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeah, for sure. So yeah, man, I think he's looking
at a big name, and that's that's what you want
to build your name and your legacy. Is another big
name to be across from you. Uh, And he's who
does Maybe Marty still got some gas in the tank,
but maybe he doesn't. Maybe that's I love his gimmick.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I love his new gimmick. I'm honest. I love I
love the new Ballah Muhammad.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I love his gimmick. He's so disrespectful, bro. He disrespectful
and everything. He disrespects Kobe, he disrespects.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Who's He always always hated Koby. He always hated Kobe.
You guys all hate Kobe though.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Because Kobe's a douche.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Not that bad, bro. Kobe is not that bad. Stop,
I'm serious. Kobe is not that bad, bro. Like, he
is not that bad.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
I don't know, you guys, maybe it' because you guys
are just waiting something. What you guys golf together. You
get the golf buddies, aren't you.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
No, I'm just saying he's not that bad means because
you guys are in the same weight so you guys
can't really get onto the Kobe coventy thing.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
But of him, it's fine with me. Listen, we are friends.
We don't have to grant everything. I think Kobe sucks
your feel the free, fe free however you want to
feel about him. Why do you think he's most of
the comments? Who's right? Damn?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Put it?
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Paul does Kobe Kobe?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Ben is right? We will make Luise make a graphic.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Lou make a graphic, get the department, get the department
to make a graphic. We'll throw it up on Twitter.
Who does Kobe suck or does he not suck? It
will throw it on Twitter to find out what people
think about Kobe Covton.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I don't think. I don't think he's that bad.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
On you know, I mean, Machana Gary is probably.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
He's not ready for a title fight, man.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
I mean, I'm just looking at the welt ofweight division
of like, who can you do the Demila Matt Atlanta guy,
he's really tough, but you're telling me he's hurt. Rock
Monno is really tough, so you know, but I was
probably thinking, Hey, let me get a big name, let
me get the best days are probably pasted him, and
let me see if I can't build my reputation here.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I don't know that his best days. I'm gonna disagree.
I don't know his best day is passing. But it
is the biggest name. Right.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
To beat Leon Edwards, then to beat Kamara Rousmann back
to back would be massive for a guy like Baala
Muhammad so Ben. Last week we talked about Dana White
and the cut right, the cut that Morob had, and
Dana went off on him right, and yesterday Dana was
asked about the same cut. He asked about Morod dualers
(14:30):
Vili and he was asked about all this.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
So he was saying that at this point Morob's awesome.
Morob is cool, but.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
He thinks that Morob is just messing with him, Bro,
because Marab was taking out his own stitches.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Doug, did you see the video, Morob?
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Have you never taken out your own stitches?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Daniel? But no, Bro, he was not holding like when
they take out.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Some funny thing. He usually used you usually use some
really small scissors. Yes, yes, yes, he was.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Taking these big m had these big scissors and he's
just ripping stitches of dudes got like weed eaters.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
He's like things.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
That's using the garden to like take the stitches out.
Do you think when you watch him do that, him going,
it's not I told you it wasn't that big a deal.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Yes, I met. Yes, I think he's trying to make
light event. I mean that was my tape last week
is and today as of today when we're taping right now,
I think we're eighteen days away from the fight still,
and so he has eighteen days left to heal and
the stitch is already out. Like, I think it's a
non issue. I think Dana overreacted last week or whatever
was last week, whenever the last.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Time it was last week, last week.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yeah, I think Dana maybe overreacted a little bit to that.
And yeah, I think Rob's fine. It's gonna be a
non issue. But yes, is he's funny.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Sure is he is?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Like how how in the world do these how the
world do these foreigners? How are they like unintentionally funny.
It's not as hilarious he was hilarious like this Morob dude,
he's so funny, and he doesn't seem to take himself serious.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
That's a big part of it, right there was that
that he doesn't take himself too seriously, you know, and
that's uh, you know what, it's refreshing, and that was
I think one of the reasons I caught on is
because I don't take myself too seriously. I let Daniel
call me a pick on me all the time. And
because there's too many of these dudes that do take
themselves so seriously, and so it's like, oh, like, not
(16:29):
another one of you guys. So a lot of them
are like that. So, you know, Morob is refreshing.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Why a fighters so sensitive? Dude? It's bad?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I mean it is bad.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Like, bro, you know that Joaquim Buckley has still been
trying to fight me. And but why why.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
No no listen? I actually so wake if you're listening,
is don't be mad at me too, just confriends with Daniel.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
But I agree with Daniel, and I like Waki Buckley.
I think he's a good dude. Trains and Nick Simmons
you better say cut no. I agreed. I agreed with
you totally. And this is where he can don't take
you to the Celtier. Seriously, you're not gonna hit one
hundred percent of the time, right, Daniel Corey me. Maybe
you'll have a good drive once in a while. But
he shanks something into the woods when he calls That's
(17:18):
what Joaquin Buckley did on that post fight. He shanked
it into the woods calling out McGregor. It was just ridiculous. Like,
I mean, maybe if you're gonna do something like that,
make one line about him, but don't make the whole
thing about him, right, Like say one line, like you know,
just to get his name in there and then go
off on somebody else would have been much better.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
You have no idea how bad he's how mad. Jaquem
Buckle is gonna.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Well, he needs to stop. He needs to stop. You
gave him good advice.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
The Joaquim Buckley's gonna see me in Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
He said he looks forward to running into me, So
he's been praying to run into me.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
So well, that's okay. So I mean that's where like
you have a large personality of large following and so
a lot of these fighters, like they're almost constantly thinking,
I don't want I think cloud chasing is overused. But
maybe that's it, you know a little bit like they
wanted to what type of interactions can I get to
make you get care, to make people care?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, So Morob when he went into the ring initially
with Sean O'Malley, he grabbed his jacket.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Why was that enough? Why was that enough? Why was
that enough? And why this? That was funny, that was great,
But why he's fighting al Jamine Sterling. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
It's just like it was just something hilarious that he
grabbed the stolen He wren't. I don't know, like I
was laughing. Tell me you weren't laughing at that.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I was, But I was like, well, it was because
it was It was because it was the jacket. It
was the red jacket.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
It was a it was a ridiculous it was a
ridiculous jacket.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
You thought that Michael Jackson looking jacket was ridiculous?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I thought, yes, I thought that.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I thought it was one of the most stylish things
I've seen a person wear with no shirt. O'madley was wearing.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
That shirt to long, broh, what California you do? Don't
forget your roots. You're from the Louisiana and then Oklahoma.
That shit don't fly around here in the Midwest.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Wait, the Mia Jackson. The jacket don't fly in the Midwest.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Could you imagine Sugar Show showing up in there with
a jacket like that, with no tattoos and no shirt.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Could you imagine he walks in Wisconsin like that? Could you? Mad?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Well, it's it's good for him that he can fight
as well as he can, because if he couldn't, he'd
be getting bullied all the time. I just told my hey,
I had a great father son talked this morning, and
cause you know, my son six now, and he got
he got his Some kids are harassed him yesterday and
he tackled one of them and they're like in the
picture line for school for the year.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So what happened?
Speaker 4 (19:42):
And my wife, um me, I talk to him. Now,
I didn't really get in trouble.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
So but so I said, you know that doesn't happen
here right in the Midwest. The teacher will go, Okay,
your kid doesn't look my son did one Superman punch
one one does one Superman punch bro. He wants to
be Roman raids. The kid was bullying him. He does
one Superman punch and I get a call talking about
(20:09):
we understand how he grew He's growing up in a
tough household.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I'm like, my household's not tough. I have the salt.
I'm the softest part in the world. But he was
he got in trouble. It wasn't like he got in trouble.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Well I did, so I did tell him. Here's I'll
give you a talk. I told my son that. I said,
you know, if you're gonna grow up and you're gonna
be a man, men kind of pick on each other
a little bit. You know, if your friend Daniel Cormier
maybe more than others. But I said, in order to
defend yourself, you have to be able to verbally assault
them back or physically assault them back. Now, the problem
is you physically assault them in school, you're probably getting trouble.
(20:45):
So maybe you gotta wait till after school. You're wrestling
with that.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
What you are saying this to your six year old son,
You're going to create a bully.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
No, no, I said, you can't bully them. But if
somebody's bullying you do You know this your funny because
you know this for sure. There's only two ways to
stop someone from picking on you. You gotta fight fire with fire,
so you either verbally assault them or physically assault them,
and then they know that there's a much easier targets.
Don't pick on that dude. Yeah, yeah, And then I
(21:15):
mean the other thing obviously, and this is one of
the ones that fighters should probably use more often because
of who fighters are. But if it's someone below you,
you cannot only just ignore them, right, you can just
I'm not gonna respond to you. You're not worth my time.
But as you know, as like an elementary school in
middle school, that tactic doesn't really work all that much.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
No, they pickle in middle school or in elementary school.
I had it badly these guys. Oh my god, I
hadn't so bad. I don't know. I was a little
dirty kid. I had no new clues. Dirty.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
It's a little dirty boy, you know, like because of
my skin color. Like if dirt gets on my face,
it looks like it smears. I was always sweating, bro.
I played at recess until like eighth grade. I'm in
eighth grade, running on the ground play like basketball kids
kids started. Dude, my middle school, they took us off
(22:08):
the playground. They put us in front of the.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
School with no toys, just sit on the grass. They
wanted to encourage you that when you got to high
school there were no more toys to play with at recess.
So bro, everybody on the grass. Everybody just sat on
the grass. Nobody was bro, I swear to god.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
In my middle school, they took us off the playground
where the basketball who were in the monkey bars. They
put us in front of the school where it was
a big old grass pasture with a whole bunch of chairs.
So at lunch you sat down and you talked to
get ready.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
For high school. So high school there's no recess, but
in middle school, like, dudes are still Dudes are still
in sports in high school. But you know, you go
play football at recess or you know, baseball at recess.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
We couldn't do nothing. We didn't do that. We literally
just sat there and talked. It was crazy. But yes,
fighters are sensitive. That is one thing that is absolutely true.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I don't know what do you think about my parents advice? Daniel?
How do you how do you rate it? One?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Okayn so so.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
My wife doesn't watch the show, so work. I had
to work on his cross. I said, you got him
with the knuckle. You know, because when they throw a
bunch of something, does.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Your wife watch this?
Speaker 4 (23:24):
I said, listen, I said, don't do it in school,
but sometimes you just got sticking one because I remember,
I said, you know I got picked I think I
think everyone got picked on. I got picked on, but
I remember one time I just threw the headlocked this
can I squeeze so freaking hard and people stop picking
on me because they didn't want get headlocked.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
You know?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
That is how that is how I stopped getting bullied.
I beat up a really tough guy. It was over.
I got double leg was I double leg on? He's
like what you know what they said to me? No wrestling,
No wrestling. They're like, no wrestling.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I was like, the hell with that light.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
You need to learn wrestle if you don't want to
get your ass taken down and beat them.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I can't, Honeymager. I was scratching him, I was punching it.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I don't encourage I don't encourage my kids to fight.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
No, we need to. We need to bring fighting back.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I love your parenting advice.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I don't know that in California, I would encourage my
son to wait till.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
After school to fight with the kid. It just doesn't
work like that here.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I've been inviting you to leave the state of California.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
I know you have you got man.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
The weather is beautiful in the place. It's just beautiful.
I love I love California, man. I know, Hey, maybe
you don't get to beat people up on the street
as much as you do in Wisconsin places. I'll trade it.
I'll trade. It'll be a good trade off for me.
I'll reserve myself from beating kids at wrestling tournaments. I'll
reserve myself for my children beating people up at school.
(24:56):
To just live in California, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Then, that's just me. It's my choice.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I get to do that, all right, Ben, let's go
before you go, Before you go, Oh, listen, see.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
What we came out here talking about MMA and now
we're we're given parenting advice and.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
It's been awesome.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
This was like one of my favorite shows so far
because now help people know who you are. That now
those comments with whether or not Ben was right or
I was right, because he was bullying me in that
group of people.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
You know who was wrong? This guy.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I don't bully people. I don't bully people.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
You bullied me in that group message it were supposed to.
You know.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
The reason we became friends, why, like a long now
this has been what's say, it's say sixteen years, probably
is because I didn't let you bully me. You you
go wrong, bullied everyone else, and everyone else was kind
to you.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
And I said to you, yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
And I said, listen, you got a verbally assault them back,
and I would give it to you.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I had to trade the center. You constantly picked on me.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
You had no respect, you had you had no respect
for the fact that I was the sea, you a
member of the team.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
You disrespected me from day one.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
You dis I was the only one who went to
rollover for you. Yeah, it was it was you know
the other one you med we actually have to we
should do a shout out on the show that wanted
to do this, because the only other one you didn't
mess with, and I think it was likely because you
were scared of him, was Steve Maco. His son just
wanted sevent Can.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
You believe that the son won the world? Oh my god,
what I wouldn't do for my son to win the world.
I would pay whatever money you could imagine for my
son to be a world champion.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
And he killed everybody. Know, you know what's crazy. Two
years ago he wasn't very good.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
He just got good. Little Michael just got so good
in a short period of time. Steve's doing it right
down there, man, he's training kids out of America, top team.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Great job. Hey, last thing been before you go. So
Joe Rogan was talking about the Mike Tyson versus Jake PAULA,
I can't believe.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
I thought that. I thought everything that is gonna I
thought that was gonna blow over it.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
What's happening. It's actually happening.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
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Speaker 2 (27:04):
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us for a real long time. So Joe Rogan is
talking about Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson here. I'm googling
it right now. Me at sixty versus me at twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I just hope to both of them that it transcends
the circus type of atmosphere and it's a legit fight
and nobody gets hurt.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
He said.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
But me at sixty versus me at twenty eight different.
But it's Mike Tyson, so it's very very different. He said,
what bother them the most is that he's got to
kind of slide back into that warrior, and I'm not
sure that he needed to do it, but it feels
like he's saying that Mike could catch Jake Paul. Do
you anticipate that there's a chance for Mike to catch
(28:46):
Jake Paul?
Speaker 4 (28:48):
My reasoning and my logic, and I know, I know
this doesn't work out all the time, but here is
my logic and reasoning is that Mike Tyson Roy Jones
fought in a very competitive about even back back and forth,
and then Roy Jones lost to Anthony Pettis, who was
a very good striker but as much as much smaller, right,
(29:11):
and it is probably past his prime. And you know,
Jake Paul is probably you know, he's probably legitimate one
a five. He'd be big at one a five, so
he's probably bigger than that. Anthony was a fifty five pounder, right,
So we're dealing with much different sized people. I just
feel like fifty eight is I mean, yes, you probably
(29:32):
the one thing you probably retain is the power, So
it's probably my tights needs to catch him, but the
gas tank and all the other things go along with it.
Are definitely go downhill, especially when you haven't been doing
it very competitively.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
You're you're but you're fifty eight years old.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Okay, So I just wanted that arm and I was
kind of trying to skip around, and I butchered the
shit out of it.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
It was terrible.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
But let me give you just the quote, because again
I'm trying to find this. Come on, lou Luis, come home, baby.
You got to help the boy out. But anyway he did,
Luis said, this.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Is the quote.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Fifty eight is fifty eight.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
No matter what you're taking and what they're doing for you,
you're still fifty eight. But fifty eight year old Mike
Tyson is not fifty eight year old Mike Jones that
lives down the street. He's a different type of human being.
He can still knock your head into another dimension if
he can catch you. So again to that point he's saying,
(30:26):
doesn't matter the age. If Mike catches you, he can
knock you out, you know what. The thing about it
to me is I understand that, and I get it,
and I get what he's saying, and I do agree
that the way Mike looks on those pads when he
is hitting pats with Raphael Cordero. It looks like there's
still something left in there. But then I watched Jake
(30:49):
Paul fight Mike Perry, and I watch Jake Paul get
pressed to where he starts to feel uncomfortable, and it
looked like Mike Perry had a chance. But then Jake
has a reserve tank to go to and get and
draw from because he's twenty eight years old. And then
he comes back and he ultimately finishes Mike Perry. But
(31:10):
early in the fight, Mike Perry's like Mike Perry's getting
beat on drop. He looks out manned, he looks out matched.
But then after he starts middle rounds, he starts to
work his way back into the fight. Mike Perry is
also a young guy. But then as the fight went longer,
Jake Paul draws on this reserve. Yeah, finishes Mike period.
Many believe that in that reserve is a few UH
(31:36):
banned things, But at the end of the day, it
allows for Jake to draw from that and put himself
on the path to get a victory. That is my
concern because one of this thing looks like a fifty
eight year old man fighting a twenty eight year old man.
When Mike can't draw from that reserve tank to stay
and compete with this young kid.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yeah, I mean I feel like that's how it's going
to go, that it's going to be competitive early and
fifty eight is old and he's probably get tired. And yeah,
I mean I've said I think it's not a win
win because I think, like, I think it's kind of dumb, because.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I think it's a lose lose for Jake Paul.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
That's that's how I feel. Yes, I agree, because everyone
was Mike Tyson, you're beating up Mike Tyson was fifty
eight year old. Why do you want to fight a
fifty eight year old? He's fifty eight, he has he
hasn't been actively competitive in twenty years.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
How do you? How do you? How do you think
this came about? How do you?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
What's the conversation look like when a guy goes, I
want to fight Mike Tyson.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I mean maybe the same thing I said, The same
thing I said is bald right, where you know, it's like,
who's the biggest name that I can fight? Who I
could possibly beat? Right with the less risk less amount
of risk, the least amount of risk.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yes, at least amount of risks. Hey, hey Floyd maywean
the fought last weekend. Bro, I had no idea Floyd.
Maybe it was still boxes.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
It's something weird about but he's not. It was like
an exhibition. It was like fau Gott he is or something,
but he's fun before what is going on with this?
I have no idea. It's so crazy, Like that's why
we're like, who paid for that? Because to your point,
I had no idea. I saw it on Twitter the
next day, like I had no idea that uh was
doing it.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Mike Tyson actually doesn't really need the money, so it's
surprising to me that he's fighting.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, very surprising to me.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I think I think he does like what the Pauls
are doing bringing attention to boxing, and maybe he wants to.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah you said that, push that forward.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
I think that's probably most likely because yeah, I don't
think he needs money and think he's probably happy he's old.
You know, maybe he does. Listen, I told you this,
I would wrestle another matter too, like I don't want
to do a tournament, although I was giving at a
lot of money. I listen, I had a great bike
workout yesterday, Daniell, I pushed myself hard and I said,
you know, I want to write me a check if
(33:53):
I miss eligibility, I'm in ben.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
But let me ask you this, though. Tell me a
sixty year old person in your life and tell me
do you think that they can compete at any level?
Speaker 4 (34:06):
I would say there's zero precedents in any combat sport.
I mean, have we ever had one or fifty? What
was that one that Bernard Hopkins? Didn't he fight for
a really long time, like he was like an iron
long time, like a really long time.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
What if Mike knocks him out though, then it's over? Then?
Like where do you where does jam?
Speaker 4 (34:23):
I mean where is all the time?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Everything's done? It would be an all time backfar. I
don't think nothing's ever been done like that in the
history of sports.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
If he gets knocked out, yeah, I see how long
did Bernard Hopkins fight for?
Speaker 2 (34:36):
He is Bernard was the man at forty at forty.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
The bets, Yeah, I want to even later Danielle last,
Oh my gods, last fight. Now he did lose his
last few, but it looks like, well, look and listen,
I know there's a lot of organization boxing. But it
looks like he retained his heavyweight title age forty nine
and he lost it uh later that year to co Layout.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Okay, oh he caught Covid Levett at forty years old.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yes, well, but Nord Hopkins is a beast seriously, so yeah,
Brian just said he fought at fifty one years old
Bernard Hopkins, so maybe hey, oh, now.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I'm starting to believe. I'm starting to believe. Man, I'm
starting to believe.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
No, I mean, we all love to see it. What
I don't. Let let's not get her help stop.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
This dude?
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Then is funny? Santam may not bring you anything nice,
but he does. It'll be a great surprise.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Just take it and be happy. Taken, be happy. Then
you're the man bro. I love doing it. I love
it all right, guys, Hey, that's been asking.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I'm Daniel Cormier. Thank you guys for tuning in to
Funking the Champ. Until next time, Peace,
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