Daniel Cormier IS BACK with his INSTANT REACTION on the latest back-and-forth between Ilia Topuria and Islam Makhachev, and why DC INSISTS Makhachev is NOT SCARED of losing to Topuria. Plus, Cormier talks about Ilia wanting to fight for a belt in a third different weight class, and why Islam might not take that fight at 170 pounds. And don't miss DC break down Tom Aspinall's comments on Jon Jones in his most recent podcast appearance with Demetrious "Mighty" Johnson and why Tom is FED UP with the drama from Jones. #Volume #Herd
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Let's get to this one, because boy, the news keeps
rolling in the boy the iliot To Pouria is not
letting off the gas. And today's episode is brought to
you by Total Wireless, the official wireless provider of the UFC.
They're in your corner with unlimited five G data that
will not slow you down. But before we get to
iliot to Poria, Hey, just for an update. Tom aspinall
(02:19):
said that he's getting frustrated waiting. He said it's very
difficult mentally on him. But he said that this right here,
this waiting is the fight for him, waiting on John
Jones to set the date, stay motivated. It's a tricky
bit for him to stay motivated, and he's trying his best,
(02:41):
but at times it gets very difficult knowing that he
wants to fight, but he's not getting the fight right now, especially,
but Jones did say that he knows what he's doing
and he will fight Tom Aspin. Also, at least we
have that to look forward to at some point, hopefully
Madison Square Garden in New York City. So today's video,
(03:06):
let's talk about Eliot Toaporia. So Iliota Poia has been
very vocal about wanting to fight Markachev, wanting to beat Markachev.
He is he is confident, and I believe his confidence
(03:28):
is deserved. You know, the guy has won so many fights,
he's done so well against so many big name guys
that he should feel confident in anybody, especially with his
ability to knock people out. And he was on the
Full Sin podcast I think yesterday and he was talking
about fighting Markachev, talking about how he wants to win
(03:50):
his fight. Hopefully Islam wins his fight and then they
will come together to fight. It doesn't seem like Eliot
Tapoia is giving up on this fight with Islam. Now.
I think that this guy is very good. I don't
know that you need to chase right if you're illiot
to pour you. Obviously, they both have massive fights coming up,
(04:11):
and that is honestly where the focus should be. I
know we all talk about it, we people that discuss
the sport. We talk about him versus Islam, because that
is a big fight. But at the end of the day,
you got a dangerous Charles Olavera that is waiting to
try and regain the world championship because in a heartbeat,
all of it can be gone. I don't I'm not
sitting here attempting to uh uh coach up iliots to
(04:38):
poor you tell him where his his uh his uh
attention should be. This guy's a world champions guy's undefeated, right,
he's done it all to this point. But I'm just
saying that I know, right from experience, when you look
down the line, especially in this thing, it's very difficult,
(04:58):
so iliots for you wants to fight Islam, but needs
to get through Jarles OLIVERA first, especially guys, when we
are hearing that he and his team are kind of
going in separate directions just because of the schedule. They said,
it's no bad blood. I really don't know how at
(05:20):
this point, a month before what will be your opportunity
to win a second title, how much effect that will
have on team to pour you. Honestly, if I'm illy,
I'm still just using those guys because even if I
have to do my training camp with someone else, I
know that those guys know me so well that if
(05:40):
they can get with me for a week two weeks,
we are still so aligned, especially if there's no bad blood,
We're still so aligned that we will get through the
fight and we will still be able to coexist, not
only co exist, but also we gel. Right. This is
a team that got this guy from a young young
man to be in sixteen and oh or seventeen and
(06:03):
o UFC champion, beating to the grades by the weight
of all time, right, So to have that familiarity is
very important to an athlete. A lot of times we
see athletes switch teams all these things as they get
down later into their career. This man is still in
the heart of his career. So there is something to
(06:25):
the idea that we have grown so much that we
can't come together and collaborate on what is going to
be one of the biggest moments of his entire fight career,
especially knowing that those guys have trained him since he
was like fifteen years old. To me, that's a little
bit odd, but you know, is what it is. So
(06:45):
Chill and I were talking the other day, and sometimes
we talk and I don't know if he's trying to
troll me, round me up, or if he truly believes
what he's saying. But his interpretation of the situation was
the bottom line is you enter the division openly that
you said you wouldn't face one of the top guys.
(07:08):
That's not a sign of courage. That's a sign of cowardice.
I don't love the idea he was speaking in regards
to Islam going up to one seventy. Here's where I
disagree with Jail. He had been having his eyes on
one seventy. This isn't something new that Macatchev was talking about.
And how about the fact that people constantly call Islam.
(07:29):
They called me or anyone that cuts weight weight bullies.
What about now that he's going up and he's gonna
fight in a weight class that mostly you say is
more suited for his size. How is that not doing
exactly what people have called for four years. Well, he's
so good only because he cuts so much weight. If
he wished that much, he should do well against those
(07:51):
people that are much small than him. How about now?
And Jack Dela Madelena is as tough as anyone in
the UFC. He's an amazing So not only are you
going up to fight at a weight class more suited
for you in the eyes of the people that ingestice thing,
but you're also going up to fight a guy that
(08:12):
just beat a person that you said I don't really
want to fight and we share management with friends. He
just beat that person. He beat that person convincingly. Also
a person that also shares the same type of wrestling
ability or same type of skill set as you do.
How's that not courageous? That's why I disagree with my
boy Chail. I love Jail and we have a lot
(08:34):
of fun on our show. But you can't call someone
or say they have that type of behavior when when
they're doing that and they've definded a belt multiple times,
they fought people on short notice, they fought people coming
up and wait less. They've done just about everything they
(08:56):
can to show that they're willing to lay it on
the line. We always talk about step on the line,
step on the line, step on the line, steps on
the line, every single time. This is the first time
that Islam has honestly put his wishes above what everybody
else wants. Because when everybody else wanted him to fight Volk,
(09:17):
he did it when everybody was looking from the fight
armand and armand couldn't well fight this guy who's number
number five, moykno dangerous, no training camp. He did it
on a day's notice. He's always done it. So to
say that it was a it wasn't a great move
in that regard, that's not a I don't agree with that.
(09:39):
I don't agree with that at all. And that's not
just me talking about experiences of knowing this man. I'm
talking from experience of knowing what a fighter thinks. And
no fighter is afraid of anything. And I've said this
before and Islam Makachev is not afraid. I've said this twice.
I've said twice now because my daughter yesterday was getting
(10:02):
ready for one of her finals and she kept saying
numb and I was like, don't say it, don't say it,
don't say it. Take a beating. Now. I'm the guy
that's out here doing it for you, which is crazy.
I never do that. You know. It's interesting because as
we had when Baalaal and Jack fought, we had a
fight that really could clear up multiple divisions. It feels
(10:27):
like these two fights could also do that. Here's the question, though,
does the Pooria go up again, because I don't know
that if you're Makatchev, you're willing to meet him in
the middle or go back down. I don't know if
the Pooria is willing to say I'm gonna go all
(10:48):
the way up to one seventy. These are two of
the greatest fighters in the world, and you don't know
what's going to happen. You don't know what's going to happen.
I did say, though, when some fights at one fifty five,
maybe I come back down and I'll fight you. So
you have that to look forward to, in the sense
(11:09):
that maybe you'll get to see those guys fighting. No
one and I get people are disappointed that they aren't
getting this, but no one is as disappointed as us.
We all love it because you have a lot of
people that want to see these guys fight, know how
special they are and know what they've meant to the
(11:31):
UFC since they've got there. And I mean, when I
look at this, right, Islam's had seven fights, it is
twenty twenty one. That guy's active. Ili has had six
fights since twenty twenty one, that guy's active. Look. A
lot of people that argue at times that itly is
a little more active, but obviously looking in that that's
(11:54):
not true. That's not true. They both fight, right, They
both fight, and they both fight just about anyone. Makatjev
could have been very disappointed when he was fighting guys
that really there was nothing to gain for him because
the top guys would not fight him, but he fought
(12:16):
them all. Ilia when it seemed like he should have
been fighting for a belt much sooner than he fought
for the belt, was fighting very dangerous guys that didn't
seem to add much value to his resume, and he
fought them all, and he fought them all. He fought
them all. They both fight everybody put in front of him.
This is the first time where I feel like one
(12:37):
guy saying I'm going to value what I want to
try to do above it. It wasn't a secret that
Islam wanted to go to one seven. He's now finally
getting an opportunity to do that. Both of these guys
are active, though I don't know how many people you
can go back to twenty twenty one and see who
fought more, especially guys that were fighting at that level
of the UFC till in the last two years. Islam's
(13:00):
faught four times and Italy is fought twice or three times. Sorry,
these guys are very active fighters. They step on the line,
and hopefully at some point we'll get to see them
step on the line against each other. But right now,
let's enjoy what we got. We got two of the
best fighters in the world fighting in massive fights, four
(13:20):
world championships, and then we'll see what those world championship
fights lend to what happens in the future. That's what
it is, is what it is. So we know we're
getting Jones versus Asphnaut don't know when right, and we
know that we're getting these two fights. It's a big deal,
all right, It's a big deal. So guys, thanks again
(13:42):
for watching. I appreciate you, love and appreciate you sport
every single time, like subscribe. Tell your friends to tell
their friends that I've got a YouTube channel and I'm
doing things like this at DCTV. Until next time, Peace,
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
All right, guys, is the greatest time of the year,
the NBA Playoffs. Look, I don't care if you watch
basketball all season or not. If you know, you know
that when the playoffs starts, everything rams up. So once
again I'm parting up with the DraftKings Sports Book to
give all new customers a fantastic offer. Sign up using
my promo code DCTV. Bet only five dollars or more
(00:27):
and get two hundred dollars bonus bets instantly whenever you
bet on the NBA Playoffs. But it doesn't just stop
on betting the games. You can do player props and
so much more at the DraftKings Sports Book. And listen
to this. You can make bets all the way through
the NBA Finals. So guys, get invested with your team
(00:49):
and also get a little bit you know, hooked up
at the DraftKings Sports Book because you know that's what
we do. We take care of our customers, especially new customers.
When you sign up using that promo code DCTV, because
all you bet is five dollars and we'll give you
two hundred dollars bonus bets instantly. So once again, sign
(01:09):
up using that promo code, get those bonus bets and
tune into the NBA playoffs, and do it with the
DraftKings sportsbook where the crown is Yours.
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Speaker 2 (01:56):
Let's get to this one, because boy, the news keeps
rolling in the boy the iliot To Pouria is not
letting off the gas. And today's episode is brought to
you by Total Wireless, the official wireless provider of the UFC.
They're in your corner with unlimited five G data that
will not slow you down. But before we get to
iliot to Poria, Hey, just for an update. Tom aspinall
(02:19):
said that he's getting frustrated waiting. He said it's very
difficult mentally on him. But he said that this right here,
this waiting is the fight for him, waiting on John
Jones to set the date, stay motivated. It's a tricky
bit for him to stay motivated, and he's trying his best,
(02:41):
but at times it gets very difficult knowing that he
wants to fight, but he's not getting the fight right now, especially,
but Jones did say that he knows what he's doing
and he will fight Tom Aspin. Also, at least we
have that to look forward to at some point, hopefully
Madison Square Garden in New York City. So today's video,
(03:06):
let's talk about Eliot Toaporia. So Iliota Poia has been
very vocal about wanting to fight Markachev, wanting to beat Markachev.
He is he is confident, and I believe his confidence
(03:28):
is deserved. You know, the guy has won so many fights,
he's done so well against so many big name guys
that he should feel confident in anybody, especially with his
ability to knock people out. And he was on the
Full Sin podcast I think yesterday and he was talking
about fighting Markachev, talking about how he wants to win
(03:50):
his fight. Hopefully Islam wins his fight and then they
will come together to fight. It doesn't seem like Eliot
Tapoia is giving up on this fight with Islam. Now.
I think that this guy is very good. I don't
know that you need to chase right if you're illiot
to pour you. Obviously, they both have massive fights coming up,
(04:11):
and that is honestly where the focus should be. I
know we all talk about it, we people that discuss
the sport. We talk about him versus Islam, because that
is a big fight. But at the end of the day,
you got a dangerous Charles Olavera that is waiting to
try and regain the world championship because in a heartbeat,
all of it can be gone. I don't I'm not
sitting here attempting to uh uh coach up iliots to
(04:38):
poor you tell him where his his uh his uh
attention should be. This guy's a world champions guy's undefeated, right,
he's done it all to this point. But I'm just
saying that I know, right from experience, when you look
down the line, especially in this thing, it's very difficult,
(04:58):
so iliots for you wants to fight Islam, but needs
to get through Jarles OLIVERA first, especially guys, when we
are hearing that he and his team are kind of
going in separate directions just because of the schedule. They said,
it's no bad blood. I really don't know how at
(05:20):
this point, a month before what will be your opportunity
to win a second title, how much effect that will
have on team to pour you. Honestly, if I'm illy,
I'm still just using those guys because even if I
have to do my training camp with someone else, I
know that those guys know me so well that if
(05:40):
they can get with me for a week two weeks,
we are still so aligned, especially if there's no bad blood,
We're still so aligned that we will get through the
fight and we will still be able to coexist, not
only co exist, but also we gel. Right. This is
a team that got this guy from a young young
man to be in sixteen and oh or seventeen and
(06:03):
o UFC champion, beating to the grades by the weight
of all time, right, So to have that familiarity is
very important to an athlete. A lot of times we
see athletes switch teams all these things as they get
down later into their career. This man is still in
the heart of his career. So there is something to
(06:25):
the idea that we have grown so much that we
can't come together and collaborate on what is going to
be one of the biggest moments of his entire fight career,
especially knowing that those guys have trained him since he
was like fifteen years old. To me, that's a little
bit odd, but you know, is what it is. So
(06:45):
Chill and I were talking the other day, and sometimes
we talk and I don't know if he's trying to
troll me, round me up, or if he truly believes
what he's saying. But his interpretation of the situation was
the bottom line is you enter the division openly that
you said you wouldn't face one of the top guys.
(07:08):
That's not a sign of courage. That's a sign of cowardice.
I don't love the idea he was speaking in regards
to Islam going up to one seventy. Here's where I
disagree with Jail. He had been having his eyes on
one seventy. This isn't something new that Macatchev was talking about.
And how about the fact that people constantly call Islam.
(07:29):
They called me or anyone that cuts weight weight bullies.
What about now that he's going up and he's gonna
fight in a weight class that mostly you say is
more suited for his size. How is that not doing
exactly what people have called for four years. Well, he's
so good only because he cuts so much weight. If
he wished that much, he should do well against those
(07:51):
people that are much small than him. How about now?
And Jack Dela Madelena is as tough as anyone in
the UFC. He's an amazing So not only are you
going up to fight at a weight class more suited
for you in the eyes of the people that ingestice thing,
but you're also going up to fight a guy that
(08:12):
just beat a person that you said I don't really
want to fight and we share management with friends. He
just beat that person. He beat that person convincingly. Also
a person that also shares the same type of wrestling
ability or same type of skill set as you do.
How's that not courageous? That's why I disagree with my
boy Chail. I love Jail and we have a lot
(08:34):
of fun on our show. But you can't call someone
or say they have that type of behavior when when
they're doing that and they've definded a belt multiple times,
they fought people on short notice, they fought people coming
up and wait less. They've done just about everything they
(08:56):
can to show that they're willing to lay it on
the line. We always talk about step on the line,
step on the line, step on the line, steps on
the line, every single time. This is the first time
that Islam has honestly put his wishes above what everybody
else wants. Because when everybody else wanted him to fight Volk,
(09:17):
he did it when everybody was looking from the fight
armand and armand couldn't well fight this guy who's number
number five, moykno dangerous, no training camp. He did it
on a day's notice. He's always done it. So to
say that it was a it wasn't a great move
in that regard, that's not a I don't agree with that.
(09:39):
I don't agree with that at all. And that's not
just me talking about experiences of knowing this man. I'm
talking from experience of knowing what a fighter thinks. And
no fighter is afraid of anything. And I've said this
before and Islam Makachev is not afraid. I've said this twice.
I've said twice now because my daughter yesterday was getting
(10:02):
ready for one of her finals and she kept saying
numb and I was like, don't say it, don't say it,
don't say it. Take a beating. Now. I'm the guy
that's out here doing it for you, which is crazy.
I never do that. You know. It's interesting because as
we had when Baalaal and Jack fought, we had a
fight that really could clear up multiple divisions. It feels
(10:27):
like these two fights could also do that. Here's the question, though,
does the Pooria go up again, because I don't know
that if you're Makatchev, you're willing to meet him in
the middle or go back down. I don't know if
the Pooria is willing to say I'm gonna go all
(10:48):
the way up to one seventy. These are two of
the greatest fighters in the world, and you don't know
what's going to happen. You don't know what's going to happen.
I did say, though, when some fights at one fifty five,
maybe I come back down and I'll fight you. So
you have that to look forward to, in the sense
(11:09):
that maybe you'll get to see those guys fighting. No
one and I get people are disappointed that they aren't
getting this, but no one is as disappointed as us.
We all love it because you have a lot of
people that want to see these guys fight, know how
special they are and know what they've meant to the
(11:31):
UFC since they've got there. And I mean, when I
look at this, right, Islam's had seven fights, it is
twenty twenty one. That guy's active. Ili has had six
fights since twenty twenty one, that guy's active. Look. A
lot of people that argue at times that itly is
a little more active, but obviously looking in that that's
(11:54):
not true. That's not true. They both fight, right, They
both fight, and they both fight just about anyone. Makatjev
could have been very disappointed when he was fighting guys
that really there was nothing to gain for him because
the top guys would not fight him, but he fought
(12:16):
them all. Ilia when it seemed like he should have
been fighting for a belt much sooner than he fought
for the belt, was fighting very dangerous guys that didn't
seem to add much value to his resume, and he
fought them all, and he fought them all. He fought
them all. They both fight everybody put in front of him.
This is the first time where I feel like one
(12:37):
guy saying I'm going to value what I want to
try to do above it. It wasn't a secret that
Islam wanted to go to one seven. He's now finally
getting an opportunity to do that. Both of these guys
are active, though I don't know how many people you
can go back to twenty twenty one and see who
fought more, especially guys that were fighting at that level
of the UFC till in the last two years. Islam's
(13:00):
faught four times and Italy is fought twice or three times. Sorry,
these guys are very active fighters. They step on the line,
and hopefully at some point we'll get to see them
step on the line against each other. But right now,
let's enjoy what we got. We got two of the
best fighters in the world fighting in massive fights, four
(13:20):
world championships, and then we'll see what those world championship
fights lend to what happens in the future. That's what
it is, is what it is. So we know we're
getting Jones versus Asphnaut don't know when right, and we
know that we're getting these two fights. It's a big deal,
all right, It's a big deal. So guys, thanks again
(13:42):
for watching. I appreciate you, love and appreciate you sport
every single time, like subscribe. Tell your friends to tell
their friends that I've got a YouTube channel and I'm
doing things like this at DCTV. Until next time, Peace,
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