Ben Askren IS BACK with Daniel Cormier to talk all the biggest headlines in the UFC, including the ongoing Jon Jones and Tom Aspinall saga, Merab Dvalishvili trolling Dana White and UFC with broken toe, and his massive championship fight against Sean O'Malley at UFC 316 in Newark, New Jersey! Askren argues that Dana and the UFC should move on from Jones, and give Tom Aspinall a fight for a UFC heavyweight championship. Don't miss DC gives his take on why HE'S SURE Jones and Aspinall will be fighting. And stick around to hear Askren and Cormier talk Russian TUF in Thailand, Ben's recent injury, and much more! #Volume #Herd
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Guys, Welcome to a brand new episode of Funk in
the Champion's been a minute, but Ben's finally back. Like
Ben has been so busy that we can't track this
dude down. What's up, Funky Ben?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
It actually was, I mean, honestly a un for wrestling
coaches perspective. April and May ared nuts. I mean, I
was traveling so much, and so we got a few
weekends where we're cooling off. Here we had last weekend off.
I'm actually going to the bitcoin convention in Vegas this
week and then so we're.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Rushing because you're going to a bitcoin convention.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Oh my god, it's amazing. Remember I was trying to
convince you to buy bitcoin when it was like thirty
five I think, and then you want to send me
cash so I would do it for you.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yes, that was what you want to do?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Wild bro, I would not do that.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Why why would you not do wild?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
That's wild.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
You could have hooked the boy up. Don't you prey dividends?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Now, just just send me, send me your it, guy.
I know, maybe it's Luis Is buying bitcoin for you.
I don't know who it is, but send me somebody,
Ben Cassandra, maybe it's.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Been Yeah, yeah, she had You know, she bought bitcoin
way back in the day and she bro John Fitch
once took a sponsorship ten grant and bitcoin and now
it's just worth this insane amount of money. Nine he
took bitcoin as a sponsor and.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
No, go did he save it all? There's no way.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
He bought a vast majority of it. He's done really
well for himself.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, wow, that's impressive.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Hey, uh, Ben, So we got a couple of things
to talk about. One, we're gonna get into the heavyweight
thing because dude, there's like a petition out there, which
is crazy. And then but let's first start with the
guy that's fighting next week in Newer marob Dwash Willie
Folsted a picture the other day while his toe. Now, Luis,
I'm not exactly sure, but this isn't the first time
(03:34):
that Morob has shared an injury going into a fight.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
What do you make of it? Benrob?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
He doesn't give a damn. He's He's like, I did
you ever enjoy that video about the honey Badger. You've
seen that, right, yes?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I have?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Oh my gosh, that's like Morob. He's like a freaking
honey badger. He doesn't give a shit. He just wants
to bring the heat all the time. That's a little
bit like Mitchell Messing Brink. Like he Mitchell could be like, hey,
let's show up and do a nice light workout, and
then of a sudden, four minutes later, you're just brawling
and you're like, what happened? And he, you know, like,
that's what Morob does. He just goes hard all the time.
I freaking love.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
It, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Morob Duallas really said keep your mouth shut, you know, like, uh,
well no, no, no, sorry. So people were talking about
Morob and him showing the injury, and the vast majority
of people think he should not say anything, right, but
Rob told Michael Bismick and hey, my toes good. Uh
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he said if anything was wrong, he would cut it off.
But he doesn't need to cut it off. It's good
it doesn't bother him, but the vast majority of people been,
especially people like us who are talking about the fight.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
We see it like this is not a good thing.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Remember last time he had staff and he was showing
off the staff.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Everybody was concerned, like, Yo.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
This dude needs.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Even at some point, right, you got to keep the
those injuries to yourself.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I mean I really do, Ben, I really believe you.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Gotta keep yourself because here's the deal, maybe and you
and I can really attest it is. All might seem
like a small deal for a guy that doesn't kick
that much, but it is a big deal for a
guy that has to wrestle without a shot. Imagine all
the push off we generate when you punch in when
(05:28):
you shoot as a wrestler. And that was one of
my biggest things when I started, Ben, was I had
a difficult time pushing off of my my back foot
to drive into shots.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
That's why we just snatch legs.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
And then pick them up because I couldn't figure out
that drive without the wrestling shoot.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Well, honestly, stay high level in MMA is probably the
way to go. So you probably were great there. You're
that nice little jab perry head outside then pick him
up and down yat.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
But you want to hit the but like I wanted
to be able to run to do it over, but
I couldn't because I never quite could figure out how
to drive off my foot without the shoe on, because
I was so used to wearing the wrestling shoe. But again,
a lot of that general push is generated off of
that pinky dot. Yes, you drive off of those feet.
So for Morob this is a much bigger deal. Ben,
(06:19):
then he's letting on.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I'm sorry, Nah.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Rob, you know well, I'll tell you that there was
one comment I was worried about that he made. He
made some comment I'm gonna get the exact words wrong,
but some of the effect of like I'm not motivated
or on board by having to fight Sean Omalley again,
I don't think he deserves it. Essentially, that kind of
like threw me off, like because you know, Morob, one
of the things he's known for, he brings the heat
(06:42):
every single time he shows up and he fights his
ass off every single time. So that kind of worried
me that he said that.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
So here's here's why I think the problem is with
these guys in Sean o Malley. There's this idea that
Charano Maalley sells a boatload of pay per views, and
al Jamaine Sterling said publicly that that wasn't the case, right.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
He said the numbers weren't what he expected him to be.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Granted, that could be something way more than what most
people are selling today, but we just don't know that number. Publicly,
he said something to the effect of, it wasn't what
I thought. If I knew it would have been, that,
I wouldn't have fought him that fast, because you.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Remember he returned quickly.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Maybe Morob is now on the A side of this
thing and going, well, this isn't gonna generate as much
as I thought, so the risk is not as appealing
as it may have been if I knew we were
gonna sell six hundred thousand pay per views.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I think maybe that is where that motivation comes from.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And honestly, he won four out of five rounds in
the first fight, so it doesn't really feel like I
for me, and honest doesn't feel like a fight that
had to happen back right now.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I mean, I agree with that fully, but like we said,
he just doesn't give a shit. He wants to get
there and fight. There's not a lot of people like
him left, So I mean, I I do truly appreciate
someone who's willing to fight that frequently Alex Pereira, but
there's not really a ton of them.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
That warrior mentality is kind of lost in the world
of mixed martial arts.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Well, those guys don't fight that much. I was talking about.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Islam and uh and uh Ilia, and they're two of
the most active guys since like in the last three years.
And Italy has fought six times or four times that
is on spart six.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
That's only an average break recently, right, hasn't he? Ili
has kind of had a little break since his last fight.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Well, he knocked out Max and he knocked out Max
in Abdabi in October.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, so it's been a little bit.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
But but he still fights, right, He fights more frequently
than most and he's fighting.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Again International Fight League.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
But in terms of a rob I think at times
you keep that those injuries to yourself, man, and he
better be motivated because O'Malley. O'Malley has a lot to
prove in this fight. But Ben can he can he
do you think he could have improved the wrestling that
much in that short period of time to stop the
guy from taking him down over and over again.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Well, it's gonna be really hard for him to do that.
But you know, the one thing I think about Sean O'Malley,
and this is why it's like I didn't like the
fact that Morob said he was not super motivated, was
that you know, in wrestling too, I don't need to
beat you by points if I can pin you, right,
I don't need to beat you in a five round
fight if I can knock you out. And Sean O'Malley
is one of you guys at that weight class that
(09:26):
can put people down on a semi regular basis.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Well, yeah, and Morob beat him by decision, right, So
like if you got to beat the guy by decision
in its twenty five minutes every time.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
It can prove to be very difficult.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
So O'Malley does have a chance here against uh Morob
because he can knock you out and because and also
for O'Malley, it's about getting out ahead of you and
putting damage on you early, because if he puts damage
on you early, then you're less effective. Right once you
start taking damage, it's harder to wrestle, you get more tired.
While you might be a cardio machine, start taking that damage,
(10:01):
it starts to take a toll on you.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
That ain't uh, that ain't fun.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Especially if you know you can clip him, clip him
in the eye or something and affect his vision. And
now you know, Morob is really heavy on the entries, right,
He's great at entering into the strikes to the takedown,
and so if his vision is affected, that can be
really problematic. Man, who did Sean start training with that?
I was like, there's someone. I was like, oh, man,
that's a that's a really great move by Sean. I'm
(10:26):
freaking blank on who it was right now.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Isn't it funny? Though?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
We're like, but if he can do this to Morob,
or if he can do this to Morob, it's like
Morob really has kind of separated himself to where it's
like something horribly wrong has to go, has to happen,
or most don't believe he's gonna get beat because of
his ability to just really drown you over the course
of twenty five minutes. I mean, a dude shot fifty times,
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been fifty times in a fight against that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
That is crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Hey, so John Jones and Tom ass but all has
It's as the world turns this story.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I saw a video the other day.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Well, Robert Whitaker said, no one cares anymore. Like, no
one cares anymore, let's just uh, let's just be done
with it.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yes it is, I agree forget those guys.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
But but but clearly been people care.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
There is a signature to strip down Jones. Uh U
seventy didn't you did?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna search the database.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
I didn't search it.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I don't find your email on.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
That seventy thousand signatures.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Man, it's annoying. It's so so I'm not done with
tom aspinall, tom aspitall clearly wants to fight. I don't
know why DFC just doesn't let them start knocking people down, right, Like,
go to the next guy, go to the next guy,
and hey, if John wants to come back, and you know,
Dania is really big on negotiating power. So if you
show John, hey, John, we're gonna move on. I'm gonna
have Commass fight this guy and this guy and he
(12:04):
starts rolling. You know, John essentially has almost all his
power taken away. So I'm almost puzzled that Dana has
not used that maneuver to this point.
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Speaker 2 (13:58):
I think what is happening is this right? First off,
you can't just have a heavyweight champion and the interim
champion is just defending the belt over and over again.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
That is absurd, Like, come on, man.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You can't have an interim champ. You can't have an
interim champ defending a.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Heavyweight champion who won't defend his belts kind of absurd.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Also, have an interim champion that's defending the belt while
the heavyweight champion isn't.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Which one's more absurd?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
That's the interim champ will just be defending the belt.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
If the heavy has no champ will fight, just say
say he's injured, or say he's sick. I don't know,
say something to say like, hey, we're get more break.
He wants to go play around Thailand and roll. That
looks like a great time. He jumped off the roof
and he was rolling. There was one I saw where
he like jumped off like a into the pool, you know.
(14:47):
So it's like he's having a great time.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Cool and listen.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
If John Jones wants to live his life, he's always
welcome to go do that. Right. But that's why I'm like,
let's just move on that. And that greatly increases their
negotiating power. So I just don't see why they haven't
done it. It almost makes me think, now I'm a
conspiracy there should know that.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, you are bad, bad.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
It makes me think John's got something on data.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
You're like you have been way too much time on X.
Oh X, by the way, what X, by the way
called me? X called my phone yesterday.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
So, oh, this is a hack? Hack bro.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I swear so like, I'm like prime target for hacking
because I'm old and like I'm like giving communications. I
told you the story about that time I was at
a sponsor at Anderson Ord and they were hacking my
bank account.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I was just giving all the info.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Finally, because I was sponsoring, the sponsor had a mic
on me. The guy goes, I think DC is getting
hacked right now. As but the guy walks over and
he's tug He goes, what I swear to God, I
was giving him up my address, my info because I
thought my bank account had gotten stolen.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Because I saw iPad bought in Miami.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I was like, I'm been to Miami, so my loge,
my logic tells me that that happened.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
The the audio guy starts cussing that the hacker, the hacker.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Your daughter was buying all that stuff and you thought
you were hacked there too?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Crazy?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
So anyhow, Yes, so X called me yesterday, but X
called me a while ago. I finally I didn't answer
and said, X I denied it. They called back. Here
I'm with X and formally Twitter, and we're calling me
because I said, no, I.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Go, there's no hacked. I go, you're trying to hack me.
And I've gotten through this before.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
So what I have done is I have notified the
authorities to know that when this number calls, they're going
to be calling you. And I'm like, just fucking he
hangs up the phone. He hangs up the phone on
me really fast because I got their asses. So next
time you trying to hack DC, I got my phone
tagged to where you can get called by the police.
I'm telling you, I'm getting them. You'll x me trying
(16:46):
to get it. Yeah, it's a trick. I'll tell you
how to do it. I've got some friends in high
places that got me.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Now, So man, it was I mean, I just get
an incessant spam. I don't I don't know about you.
I don't answer my phone like the number I know,
I'm not answering.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Ever, you never answer the phone. You don't answer the phone,
even when.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I keep my phone permanently on silent, so like I
would obviously if I saw you were calling, answer for you.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
But out back to John Jones anyhow, back to John Jones.
Back to John Jon back, did you see the video
of him jumping into the pool and time video of him?
Luis run the video of him jumping in the pool?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Okay, Ben so, yep, that was John Jones jumping into
a that was John Joe. So John Jones was jumping
into a pool. John Jones was riding a motorcycle on Thailand.
John Jones was Uh. He says that he's living his
best life, but does that mean it's over, like it's.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Fighting done for him?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I don't know, because he said something about being happy,
but he wouldn't say he's retired.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
And it's a weird. It's a weird place that he's
at in his career right now.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Message message yesterday that was weird. Well what he did, Yeah,
he was saying heavyweight news coming up soon or something,
and then later he clarifies that that wasn't my my
it's not my fight. So it's like, does that mean
they're they're stripping John and they're moving on, Like what
does that mean?
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Like what else are you watching this?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
And when John Jones was in that pool, they're like
dipping in his note like he's just he's smiling.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I ain't never house so big in my life. He's smiling. Man,
he's so happy. What's wrong?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
What is that? He's living his best life? Man, just
let this let him go. So just give tail asthmal
Damn fight. Tom Asmall has been sitting on the bench
for I don't know ten months now. We have other heavyweights.
Uh Bolkov was recently speaking up about how he would
like to be more active. We have plenty of other
heavyweights who want to be plenty active. Just kid these
guys fights.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But what if Tom as his beat, then he just
doesn't John Jones fight, But then he just didn't deserve
to fight Jones in the first place.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Absolutely, if you think about think about what happened with
Michael Chandler, how long did he wait for freaking Connor?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Connor?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Like, do not do that? So you have, man, you
have a bunch of younger, fun heavyweight's, Like, let's these
dudes start mixing it up.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know, man, I just have
a really bad taste when it comes to having a
heavyweight champion and then having a interim champion defending the bell.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
You know what's crazy?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
John Jones and Tom aspinall both have the same amount
of title.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Defenses one heavyweight tel defensive.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Heavyweight title defenses. How is that possible?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
How does your interim champion have the same type amount
of heavyweight title defenses as you're active champion.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's that's kind of the John's
I would love to be able to like pour some truths,
er him out down John Jones's throat and actually just
like talk to him and just you know, get some
real answers because he puts all these different like vibes
out there, and I mean I would have to. So
just looking at his resume and people can argue this
(20:04):
obviously one of the greatest ever. Yes he is based
on his you have some of the drug stuff, which
you could argue, but he is. But then it's like
it feels almost like the prophecy wasn't fulfilled. If you
see what he was doing in you know, uh, we'll
say what twenty eleven, I think it's my first won
the title or twelve somewhere in there. That's a long
(20:25):
time ago. And he was crushing dudes, and he was
fighting a lot, and then it was like gap after
gap after he was young though he was young, absolutely,
but there's probably I would venture to guess, I'll look
get his resume. I would venture to guess there's by
four gaps in John Jones resume that are a year
plus between fights.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Well, yeah, him and I had there was like two
years between our fights because of this stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
So we fought in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Then he got in trouble in fifteen, and then I
won in May.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Him and I were supposed to fight in jail.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
He fought back again a year after that against ov
so that was a year, and they were supposed to
find at UFC two hundred and then he got in
trouble there, so from sixteen to seventeen that was a year.
And then after he fought me, he fought gustuson like
a while after that was I.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Won the belt back in eighteen. I won the belt
back in eighteen.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
So I had that until the end of I think
he took the belt back in eighteen when he beat
Gusts in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
And then he was actually super active there. He fought
between December and December of eighteen and February of twenty,
which is that's you know, fifteen months he fought four times, yeah,
very three years off after that, right, and the next
one a year and a half off, and the one
before that was a year and a half off. And
so it's like, you know, you just see this resume
and it's it is absolutely one of the best ever.
(21:52):
But then it's like, man, he's got to feel some
remorse about, you know, missing so much time, you know,
because he does he talks about legacy probably more than
just about anybody.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
So he's one of the best, right, But like think
about this, right, And Luis uh just kind of made
this point because we've spoken about it a little bit.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
When John, when I fought John, I was thirty six
years old. He was twenty eight. Then we fought again
and I was thirty eight.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
He was thirty right when he fought Steepe, even now
he's thirty seven's forty one. All those guys were older guys, right,
I just feel Ben, Yes, like it's a little different.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
So when you walked out to the mad.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Against Tyroll Lewis right out of college, you're a twenty
two year old kid, fresh face, not.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
One you're making reass of the glory days yet I
appreciate you so much.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
But Ben, think about this though, Ben, h when you
walked out there against Jordan Burrows and he saw a
younger athlete, like, no, dude, But I'm just saying, though,
you're kind of going, oh, it might be a little
bit different, especially when he's good. Yes, John now is
a thirty eight year old man looking at a thirty
year old man that's bigger, that's younger, that's fresher and
(23:06):
going it's flipped.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Yes, I don't see the wearing.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Tarror on their face anymore on his face. I see
the wearing tarrl mind right, he saw stevee writ Steepe
looks older. He looks like, yes, you know, he just
looked older from all that time away. Now he's looking
down at a young man and it's like he's not scared,
make no mistake about it. But I think it's enough
to like question it. And you know what the I
(23:33):
think a big worry might be for him because with aspinall,
he could potentially get knocked out, like legitimately knocked out
and put on his back in out cold, and I
just don't know that he wants to. Yeah, have that
visual of him in the world.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's uh yeah, that's probably probably
nailed it round the head right there.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
You did, like cause, I mean, he's knocked out a
lot of guys he's never had because I've seen myself
get beat and I'm like, god, that's such a horrible
visual every time.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, I had that happen one time. I know, I
said to see it a few times.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
It sucks. But so what do you think happens?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Oh? God, I think it dragged My guess. My guess
would be it drags on for a while longer, which
I'm not in favor of.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Do you think they strip him.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I think they let him walk on his own. But
I think he drags it on, and I don't I
don't really know what you know. I said, I would
love to pour some truth, servem and talk to him, like,
I don't know what his motivation is in dragging it on.
It seems counterproductive to everybody involved, rather than just saying,
hey man, I'm done. I had a great career, I'm
the best. Like I'm out here at peace. I'm gonna
go with my life. So I bet he drags it on.
(24:50):
He vacates, and then Tom Asmall moves on, and I
would think, uh, basically heavily picture tom Masmall is going
to have a relatively successful you know, crazy, But I
wouldn't be surprised to se if tom asmal Win, I
don't three to five in row more something like that.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
So my whole thing is this, and then I'll let
you go on this. I don't know that he vacates
without fighting him, because I think the visual, I think
the lasting thought would be that he ran from him,
and I don't know that his ego could handle that
he ran from someone. I think that the the the
idea that people would think that he is afraid means
(25:27):
more to him than going out there and fighting him
and taking the chance, especially when there's a real possibility
he just fucking he just outclasses tom Asminal, Like, there's
a real possibility that he goes out there and he
just out classes tom Askinal. You don't know, right, So
I think that he'll fight him. I don't think they'll
need to strip him. I think he'll fight him. And
even though you're right, you can walk away and go
(25:49):
I'm the best. I don't need to do anything else
that that idea that you ran is going to be
too strong of a pull for him as he goes
into the next phase of his career, and I think
gonna fight him.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Uh, you have to, all right, Ben? Well, Hey have
fun at the Bitcoin Convention. Guys, are you coming to Vegas?
I'm doing on there just today for like three hours.
I go.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
We're doing an Ultimate Fighter, a panel, and a premiere party,
and I'm once.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You have Isn't there a fight coming up soon Saturday?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
There's a fight Saturday. So I'm working this week. But
are you in town this weekend?
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I'm leaving Friday night.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Oh, I give you some digits to the Apex. Have
you ever been?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I have been to a fight in the Apex, unfortunately lost,
very quiet, very almost strange, almost like it. It almost
felt like a little bit of an inner squad duel
meet you know where.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yeah, it's an amazing facility. Probably my favorite place in
the world of work, honestly.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
M hm.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Nice and easy, all right, got until next time. Peace,
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the Champion's been a minute, but Ben's finally back. Like
Ben has been so busy that we can't track this
dude down. What's up, Funky Ben?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
It actually was, I mean, honestly a un for wrestling
coaches perspective. April and May ared nuts. I mean, I
was traveling so much, and so we got a few
weekends where we're cooling off. Here we had last weekend off.
I'm actually going to the bitcoin convention in Vegas this
week and then so we're.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Rushing because you're going to a bitcoin convention.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Oh my god, it's amazing. Remember I was trying to
convince you to buy bitcoin when it was like thirty
five I think, and then you want to send me
cash so I would do it for you.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yes, that was what you want to do?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Wild bro, I would not do that.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Why why would you not do wild?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
That's wild.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
You could have hooked the boy up. Don't you prey dividends?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Now, just just send me, send me your it, guy.
I know, maybe it's Luis Is buying bitcoin for you.
I don't know who it is, but send me somebody,
Ben Cassandra, maybe it's.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Been Yeah, yeah, she had You know, she bought bitcoin
way back in the day and she bro John Fitch
once took a sponsorship ten grant and bitcoin and now
it's just worth this insane amount of money. Nine he
took bitcoin as a sponsor and.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
No, go did he save it all? There's no way.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
He bought a vast majority of it. He's done really
well for himself.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, wow, that's impressive.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Hey, uh, Ben, So we got a couple of things
to talk about. One, we're gonna get into the heavyweight
thing because dude, there's like a petition out there, which
is crazy. And then but let's first start with the
guy that's fighting next week in Newer marob Dwash Willie
Folsted a picture the other day while his toe. Now, Luis,
I'm not exactly sure, but this isn't the first time
(03:34):
that Morob has shared an injury going into a fight.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
What do you make of it? Benrob?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
He doesn't give a damn. He's He's like, I did
you ever enjoy that video about the honey Badger. You've
seen that, right, yes?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I have?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Oh my gosh, that's like Morob. He's like a freaking
honey badger. He doesn't give a shit. He just wants
to bring the heat all the time. That's a little
bit like Mitchell Messing Brink. Like he Mitchell could be like, hey,
let's show up and do a nice light workout, and
then of a sudden, four minutes later, you're just brawling
and you're like, what happened? And he, you know, like,
that's what Morob does. He just goes hard all the time.
I freaking love.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
It, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Morob Duallas really said keep your mouth shut, you know, like, uh,
well no, no, no, sorry. So people were talking about
Morob and him showing the injury, and the vast majority
of people think he should not say anything, right, but
Rob told Michael Bismick and hey, my toes good. Uh
(04:31):
he said if anything was wrong, he would cut it off.
But he doesn't need to cut it off. It's good
it doesn't bother him, but the vast majority of people been,
especially people like us who are talking about the fight.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
We see it like this is not a good thing.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Remember last time he had staff and he was showing
off the staff.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Everybody was concerned, like, Yo.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
This dude needs.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Even at some point, right, you got to keep the
those injuries to yourself.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I mean I really do, Ben, I really believe you.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Gotta keep yourself because here's the deal, maybe and you
and I can really attest it is. All might seem
like a small deal for a guy that doesn't kick
that much, but it is a big deal for a
guy that has to wrestle without a shot. Imagine all
the push off we generate when you punch in when
(05:28):
you shoot as a wrestler. And that was one of
my biggest things when I started, Ben, was I had
a difficult time pushing off of my my back foot
to drive into shots.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
That's why we just snatch legs.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
And then pick them up because I couldn't figure out
that drive without the wrestling shoot.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Well, honestly, stay high level in MMA is probably the
way to go. So you probably were great there. You're
that nice little jab perry head outside then pick him
up and down yat.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
But you want to hit the but like I wanted
to be able to run to do it over, but
I couldn't because I never quite could figure out how
to drive off my foot without the shoe on, because
I was so used to wearing the wrestling shoe. But again,
a lot of that general push is generated off of
that pinky dot. Yes, you drive off of those feet.
So for Morob this is a much bigger deal. Ben,
(06:19):
then he's letting on.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I'm sorry, Nah.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Rob, you know well, I'll tell you that there was
one comment I was worried about that he made. He
made some comment I'm gonna get the exact words wrong,
but some of the effect of like I'm not motivated
or on board by having to fight Sean Omalley again,
I don't think he deserves it. Essentially, that kind of
like threw me off, like because you know, Morob, one
of the things he's known for, he brings the heat
(06:42):
every single time he shows up and he fights his
ass off every single time. So that kind of worried
me that he said that.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
So here's here's why I think the problem is with
these guys in Sean o Malley. There's this idea that
Charano Maalley sells a boatload of pay per views, and
al Jamaine Sterling said publicly that that wasn't the case, right.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
He said the numbers weren't what he expected him to be.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Granted, that could be something way more than what most
people are selling today, but we just don't know that number. Publicly,
he said something to the effect of, it wasn't what
I thought. If I knew it would have been, that,
I wouldn't have fought him that fast, because you.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Remember he returned quickly.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Maybe Morob is now on the A side of this
thing and going, well, this isn't gonna generate as much
as I thought, so the risk is not as appealing
as it may have been if I knew we were
gonna sell six hundred thousand pay per views.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I think maybe that is where that motivation comes from.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And honestly, he won four out of five rounds in
the first fight, so it doesn't really feel like I
for me, and honest doesn't feel like a fight that
had to happen back right now.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I mean, I agree with that fully, but like we said,
he just doesn't give a shit. He wants to get
there and fight. There's not a lot of people like
him left, So I mean, I I do truly appreciate
someone who's willing to fight that frequently Alex Pereira, but
there's not really a ton of them.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
That warrior mentality is kind of lost in the world
of mixed martial arts.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Well, those guys don't fight that much. I was talking about.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Islam and uh and uh Ilia, and they're two of
the most active guys since like in the last three years.
And Italy has fought six times or four times that
is on spart six.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
That's only an average break recently, right, hasn't he? Ili
has kind of had a little break since his last fight.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Well, he knocked out Max and he knocked out Max
in Abdabi in October.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, so it's been a little bit.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
But but he still fights, right, He fights more frequently
than most and he's fighting.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Again International Fight League.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
But in terms of a rob I think at times
you keep that those injuries to yourself, man, and he
better be motivated because O'Malley. O'Malley has a lot to
prove in this fight. But Ben can he can he
do you think he could have improved the wrestling that
much in that short period of time to stop the
guy from taking him down over and over again.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Well, it's gonna be really hard for him to do that.
But you know, the one thing I think about Sean O'Malley,
and this is why it's like I didn't like the
fact that Morob said he was not super motivated, was
that you know, in wrestling too, I don't need to
beat you by points if I can pin you, right,
I don't need to beat you in a five round
fight if I can knock you out. And Sean O'Malley
is one of you guys at that weight class that
(09:26):
can put people down on a semi regular basis.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Well, yeah, and Morob beat him by decision, right, So
like if you got to beat the guy by decision
in its twenty five minutes every time.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
It can prove to be very difficult.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
So O'Malley does have a chance here against uh Morob
because he can knock you out and because and also
for O'Malley, it's about getting out ahead of you and
putting damage on you early, because if he puts damage
on you early, then you're less effective. Right once you
start taking damage, it's harder to wrestle, you get more tired.
While you might be a cardio machine, start taking that damage,
(10:01):
it starts to take a toll on you.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
That ain't uh, that ain't fun.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Especially if you know you can clip him, clip him
in the eye or something and affect his vision. And
now you know, Morob is really heavy on the entries, right,
He's great at entering into the strikes to the takedown,
and so if his vision is affected, that can be
really problematic. Man, who did Sean start training with that?
I was like, there's someone. I was like, oh, man,
that's a that's a really great move by Sean. I'm
(10:26):
freaking blank on who it was right now.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Isn't it funny? Though?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
We're like, but if he can do this to Morob,
or if he can do this to Morob, it's like
Morob really has kind of separated himself to where it's
like something horribly wrong has to go, has to happen,
or most don't believe he's gonna get beat because of
his ability to just really drown you over the course
of twenty five minutes. I mean, a dude shot fifty times,
(10:50):
been fifty times in a fight against that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
That is crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Hey, so John Jones and Tom ass but all has
It's as the world turns this story.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I saw a video the other day.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Well, Robert Whitaker said, no one cares anymore. Like, no
one cares anymore, let's just uh, let's just be done
with it.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yes it is, I agree forget those guys.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
But but but clearly been people care.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
There is a signature to strip down Jones. Uh U
seventy didn't you did?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna search the database.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
I didn't search it.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I don't find your email on.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
That seventy thousand signatures.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Man, it's annoying. It's so so I'm not done with
tom aspinall, tom aspitall clearly wants to fight. I don't
know why DFC just doesn't let them start knocking people down, right, Like,
go to the next guy, go to the next guy,
and hey, if John wants to come back, and you know,
Dania is really big on negotiating power. So if you
show John, hey, John, we're gonna move on. I'm gonna
have Commass fight this guy and this guy and he
(12:04):
starts rolling. You know, John essentially has almost all his
power taken away. So I'm almost puzzled that Dana has
not used that maneuver to this point.
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Speaker 2 (13:58):
I think what is happening is this right? First off,
you can't just have a heavyweight champion and the interim
champion is just defending the belt over and over again.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
That is absurd, Like, come on, man.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You can't have an interim champ. You can't have an
interim champ defending a.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Heavyweight champion who won't defend his belts kind of absurd.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Also, have an interim champion that's defending the belt while
the heavyweight champion isn't.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Which one's more absurd?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
That's the interim champ will just be defending the belt.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
If the heavy has no champ will fight, just say
say he's injured, or say he's sick. I don't know,
say something to say like, hey, we're get more break.
He wants to go play around Thailand and roll. That
looks like a great time. He jumped off the roof
and he was rolling. There was one I saw where
he like jumped off like a into the pool, you know.
(14:47):
So it's like he's having a great time.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Cool and listen.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
If John Jones wants to live his life, he's always
welcome to go do that. Right. But that's why I'm like,
let's just move on that. And that greatly increases their
negotiating power. So I just don't see why they haven't
done it. It almost makes me think, now I'm a
conspiracy there should know that.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, you are bad, bad.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
It makes me think John's got something on data.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
You're like you have been way too much time on X.
Oh X, by the way, what X, by the way
called me? X called my phone yesterday.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
So, oh, this is a hack? Hack bro.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I swear so like, I'm like prime target for hacking
because I'm old and like I'm like giving communications. I
told you the story about that time I was at
a sponsor at Anderson Ord and they were hacking my
bank account.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I was just giving all the info.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Finally, because I was sponsoring, the sponsor had a mic
on me. The guy goes, I think DC is getting
hacked right now. As but the guy walks over and
he's tug He goes, what I swear to God, I
was giving him up my address, my info because I
thought my bank account had gotten stolen.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Because I saw iPad bought in Miami.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I was like, I'm been to Miami, so my loge,
my logic tells me that that happened.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
The the audio guy starts cussing that the hacker, the hacker.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Your daughter was buying all that stuff and you thought
you were hacked there too?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Crazy?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
So anyhow, Yes, so X called me yesterday, but X
called me a while ago. I finally I didn't answer
and said, X I denied it. They called back. Here
I'm with X and formally Twitter, and we're calling me
because I said, no, I.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Go, there's no hacked. I go, you're trying to hack me.
And I've gotten through this before.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
So what I have done is I have notified the
authorities to know that when this number calls, they're going
to be calling you. And I'm like, just fucking he
hangs up the phone. He hangs up the phone on
me really fast because I got their asses. So next
time you trying to hack DC, I got my phone
tagged to where you can get called by the police.
I'm telling you, I'm getting them. You'll x me trying
(16:46):
to get it. Yeah, it's a trick. I'll tell you
how to do it. I've got some friends in high
places that got me.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Now, So man, it was I mean, I just get
an incessant spam. I don't I don't know about you.
I don't answer my phone like the number I know,
I'm not answering.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Ever, you never answer the phone. You don't answer the phone,
even when.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I keep my phone permanently on silent, so like I
would obviously if I saw you were calling, answer for you.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
But out back to John Jones anyhow, back to John Jones.
Back to John Jon back, did you see the video
of him jumping into the pool and time video of him?
Luis run the video of him jumping in the pool?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Okay, Ben so, yep, that was John Jones jumping into
a that was John Joe. So John Jones was jumping
into a pool. John Jones was riding a motorcycle on Thailand.
John Jones was Uh. He says that he's living his
best life, but does that mean it's over, like it's.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Fighting done for him?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I don't know, because he said something about being happy,
but he wouldn't say he's retired.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
And it's a weird. It's a weird place that he's
at in his career right now.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Message message yesterday that was weird. Well what he did, Yeah,
he was saying heavyweight news coming up soon or something,
and then later he clarifies that that wasn't my my
it's not my fight. So it's like, does that mean
they're they're stripping John and they're moving on, Like what
does that mean?
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Like what else are you watching this?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
And when John Jones was in that pool, they're like
dipping in his note like he's just he's smiling.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I ain't never house so big in my life. He's smiling. Man,
he's so happy. What's wrong?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
What is that? He's living his best life? Man, just
let this let him go. So just give tail asthmal
Damn fight. Tom Asmall has been sitting on the bench
for I don't know ten months now. We have other heavyweights.
Uh Bolkov was recently speaking up about how he would
like to be more active. We have plenty of other
heavyweights who want to be plenty active. Just kid these
guys fights.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But what if Tom as his beat, then he just
doesn't John Jones fight, But then he just didn't deserve
to fight Jones in the first place.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Absolutely, if you think about think about what happened with
Michael Chandler, how long did he wait for freaking Connor?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Connor?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Like, do not do that? So you have, man, you
have a bunch of younger, fun heavyweight's, Like, let's these
dudes start mixing it up.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know, man, I just have
a really bad taste when it comes to having a
heavyweight champion and then having a interim champion defending the bell.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
You know what's crazy?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
John Jones and Tom aspinall both have the same amount
of title.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Defenses one heavyweight tel defensive.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Heavyweight title defenses. How is that possible?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
How does your interim champion have the same type amount
of heavyweight title defenses as you're active champion.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's that's kind of the John's
I would love to be able to like pour some truths,
er him out down John Jones's throat and actually just
like talk to him and just you know, get some
real answers because he puts all these different like vibes
out there, and I mean I would have to. So
just looking at his resume and people can argue this
(20:04):
obviously one of the greatest ever. Yes he is based
on his you have some of the drug stuff, which
you could argue, but he is. But then it's like
it feels almost like the prophecy wasn't fulfilled. If you
see what he was doing in you know, uh, we'll
say what twenty eleven, I think it's my first won
the title or twelve somewhere in there. That's a long
(20:25):
time ago. And he was crushing dudes, and he was
fighting a lot, and then it was like gap after
gap after he was young though he was young, absolutely,
but there's probably I would venture to guess, I'll look
get his resume. I would venture to guess there's by
four gaps in John Jones resume that are a year
plus between fights.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Well, yeah, him and I had there was like two
years between our fights because of this stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
So we fought in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Then he got in trouble in fifteen, and then I
won in May.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Him and I were supposed to fight in jail.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
He fought back again a year after that against ov
so that was a year, and they were supposed to
find at UFC two hundred and then he got in
trouble there, so from sixteen to seventeen that was a year.
And then after he fought me, he fought gustuson like
a while after that was I.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Won the belt back in eighteen. I won the belt
back in eighteen.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
So I had that until the end of I think
he took the belt back in eighteen when he beat
Gusts in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
And then he was actually super active there. He fought
between December and December of eighteen and February of twenty,
which is that's you know, fifteen months he fought four times, yeah,
very three years off after that, right, and the next
one a year and a half off, and the one
before that was a year and a half off. And
so it's like, you know, you just see this resume
and it's it is absolutely one of the best ever.
(21:52):
But then it's like, man, he's got to feel some
remorse about, you know, missing so much time, you know,
because he does he talks about legacy probably more than
just about anybody.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
So he's one of the best, right, But like think
about this, right, And Luis uh just kind of made
this point because we've spoken about it a little bit.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
When John, when I fought John, I was thirty six
years old. He was twenty eight. Then we fought again
and I was thirty eight.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
He was thirty right when he fought Steepe, even now
he's thirty seven's forty one. All those guys were older guys, right,
I just feel Ben, Yes, like it's a little different.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
So when you walked out to the mad.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Against Tyroll Lewis right out of college, you're a twenty
two year old kid, fresh face, not.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
One you're making reass of the glory days yet I
appreciate you so much.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
But Ben, think about this though, Ben, h when you
walked out there against Jordan Burrows and he saw a
younger athlete, like, no, dude, But I'm just saying, though,
you're kind of going, oh, it might be a little
bit different, especially when he's good. Yes, John now is
a thirty eight year old man looking at a thirty
year old man that's bigger, that's younger, that's fresher and
(23:06):
going it's flipped.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Yes, I don't see the wearing.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Tarror on their face anymore on his face. I see
the wearing tarrl mind right, he saw stevee writ Steepe
looks older. He looks like, yes, you know, he just
looked older from all that time away. Now he's looking
down at a young man and it's like he's not scared,
make no mistake about it. But I think it's enough
to like question it. And you know what the I
(23:33):
think a big worry might be for him because with aspinall,
he could potentially get knocked out, like legitimately knocked out
and put on his back in out cold, and I
just don't know that he wants to. Yeah, have that
visual of him in the world.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's uh yeah, that's probably probably
nailed it round the head right there.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
You did, like cause, I mean, he's knocked out a
lot of guys he's never had because I've seen myself
get beat and I'm like, god, that's such a horrible
visual every time.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, I had that happen one time. I know, I
said to see it a few times.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
It sucks. But so what do you think happens?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Oh? God, I think it dragged My guess. My guess
would be it drags on for a while longer, which
I'm not in favor of.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Do you think they strip him.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I think they let him walk on his own. But
I think he drags it on, and I don't I
don't really know what you know. I said, I would
love to pour some truth, servem and talk to him, like,
I don't know what his motivation is in dragging it on.
It seems counterproductive to everybody involved, rather than just saying,
hey man, I'm done. I had a great career, I'm
the best. Like I'm out here at peace. I'm gonna
go with my life. So I bet he drags it on.
(24:50):
He vacates, and then Tom Asmall moves on, and I
would think, uh, basically heavily picture tom Masmall is going
to have a relatively successful you know, crazy, But I
wouldn't be surprised to se if tom asmal Win, I
don't three to five in row more something like that.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
So my whole thing is this, and then I'll let
you go on this. I don't know that he vacates
without fighting him, because I think the visual, I think
the lasting thought would be that he ran from him,
and I don't know that his ego could handle that
he ran from someone. I think that the the the
idea that people would think that he is afraid means
(25:27):
more to him than going out there and fighting him
and taking the chance, especially when there's a real possibility
he just fucking he just outclasses tom Asminal, Like, there's
a real possibility that he goes out there and he
just out classes tom Askinal. You don't know, right, So
I think that he'll fight him. I don't think they'll
need to strip him. I think he'll fight him. And
even though you're right, you can walk away and go
(25:49):
I'm the best. I don't need to do anything else
that that idea that you ran is going to be
too strong of a pull for him as he goes
into the next phase of his career, and I think
gonna fight him.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Uh, you have to, all right, Ben? Well, Hey have
fun at the Bitcoin Convention. Guys, are you coming to Vegas?
I'm doing on there just today for like three hours.
I go.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
We're doing an Ultimate Fighter, a panel, and a premiere party,
and I'm once.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You have Isn't there a fight coming up soon Saturday?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
There's a fight Saturday. So I'm working this week. But
are you in town this weekend?
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I'm leaving Friday night.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Oh, I give you some digits to the Apex. Have
you ever been?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I have been to a fight in the Apex, unfortunately lost,
very quiet, very almost strange, almost like it. It almost
felt like a little bit of an inner squad duel
meet you know where.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yeah, it's an amazing facility. Probably my favorite place in
the world of work, honestly.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
M hm.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Nice and easy, all right, got until next time. Peace,
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