October 4, 2024 • 20 mins
Daniel Cormier begins his UFC 307 check-ins with Joaquin Buckley, where the two address their heated back-and-forth and shots fired over social media. DC and Buckley revisit the beef behind the Conor McGregor callout, and Cormier explains why he responded to Buckley on Twitter the way he did. DC and Joaquin also get into his fight against Stephen "Wonderboy" Thompson and why he has to finish him to get an eventual title shot against Belal Muhammad. #Volume #Herd
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Speaker 2 (01:49):
All right, guys, some here with book. We're gonna talk
by UFC three zero seven in a bit. First off,
mostly this is the biggest fight of your life. Gonna
focus on that. But before we're met, right, so we
have to have a conversation. Yeah, First off, as like
you know, we've going back and forth online, and that's
(02:10):
the thing, right, Like online it can be we can yell,
we can skim and do all these things, but when
you see face face, we have to communicate, right, We
have to talk to each other.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
So my question to you is where did we get
off track of you a lot?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Uh? I don't know. I mean to be honest with you,
from the very start, you know, it was just off
that post, you know, off of just what you said, you.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Know about the post fight interview.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Yes, sir, yes, sir. So I just feel like you
misquoted me, that's all that was. Uh, definitely about what
I said about you know, Condor McGregor, you know, and
calling him out. It's okay that you said it was
the worst call out, you know what I'm saying all
the time. That's cool. I don't care about that. It
was the other things that you said.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Well, what else did I say? Uh?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
You said that I call Connor McGregor's mother a bad name,
and I didn't do that, and I wouldn't do that.
But I honestly, with that being said, it's just like
everything that I got going on in my life, I
got a lot of women that took cur of me.
My mother's taking care of me, my grandmother's taking care
of me, you know. So I didn't attack his mom
or attack anybody that was close to him that was
(03:08):
a female. You know, I just went at him and
his father who got him into training and everything of
that nature. But yeah, it was just a misquote, you know, misunderstanding.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
But then you both when you when you posted it,
you included me with Michael Bisbane and Chill Sonny.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
They didn't misquot. That was just me.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
No, no, no, because everybody agreed. No no. I seen
Chill Sonny and he was talking on her as well.
He said the same thing. And then Michael Bisbee said
the same thing on their own post, so I see
it exactly what they said.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
They said the same thing on that post. So we
all as a collective, yeah, as a collector. So here's
the thing about that post. Fight, Yes, sir, right, you
call out Connor McGregor. Somebody told me yesterday, And that's
the thing, like, honestly, you call out Connor McGregor, we
all start talking about it because of that. If you
(03:59):
did that as a point to get people talking, then
it would have worked. But then again, it's just like
we constantly go It was like, we're constantly going back
and forth about this stuff, and then you get you
seem to get mad, but.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
In this position, can't get mad.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
You can't get mad in this position it's like we
get judged daily for what we do when we're on
this platform.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
No, but you still misunderstanding. You misquoted me, But I
didn't misquote you. Okay, So what you say, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I don't know it by word. Now I don't have
the exact quote by word.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Now I'm going tell you what I said. Tell me,
I said, Con McGregor is a MiG hole. That's what
I said. So it's safe to say that his mama raised.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
But that's but that's the problem. Though. You can't be
saying mama.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Raised the whole though, Okay, why not, because.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You're talking about this dude's mom. Still, that's disrespectful. That's
the job that she did, walking The job that she
did is raised that man.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yes, sir, so she did you tell?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
You said his mom did a bad job.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I didn't, But I didn't call her a bad name.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
But you didn't call her.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
You get and get all right there, But I get that,
But I get that, but I get that, right, But
then that turns into you saying that our mama's raised holes.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Come on, man, we can't do that.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
We don't do that, like we just don't do that,
like we we have to at times, we just have
to be careful because we don't know each other situation.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
One time, John Jones and not who had the most
bitter rival induistinct.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
One time he said, I'm your fucking daddy.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
That's what he said to right, And then he found
out my father got murdered and he made Danny White
message me to talk about that.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
So saying the man mama raised a hole. You don't
know what that man mama did.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
We don't know that, Like those are words that just
can't be spewed out like that.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
That's just me because I don't because because like we
don't do that.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
No, I feel there's a couple of things that I
leave off of the limits. You know. I don't talk
about the dead, and I don't talk about you know,
people kids, you know. But there's other things that I
feel like, whatever I gotta do to sell a fight
and get somebody's attention, that's what I'm finna do. But
yet again, though, you know, I feel like you just
misquoted me. Now, if people didn't like my approach to it,
(06:14):
then that's cool. I don't care about that. But just
keep it real and keep it honest. That's not what
I said.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
So why do you why do you keep tagging me
on shit?
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Then? I love tagging you, man, but still you keep
tagging me cuts and I'm like, I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I feel like because now you're trolling me.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I'm not trolling you.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I really like, I gotta I gotta open workout.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
That I'm finna do at two pm at David Bustle.
I love for you to come out so we can
get some work and we can roll or something like that.
You know what I mean. And it's not like gonna
like to be mean or whatever. But you said that
we could work.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
We will work.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
We will work, but we have never come across each
other since, like, I haven't seen you.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
That's why I tag you on a lot of things
and a lot of situations. Lets you know where I'm at.
But it's not to be like on some trolling stuff
like you know, you feel like to me, it feel
like you trolling me. Well, I apologize. Is that if
that's how you feel, Yeah, that's how I take it.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
It's all good man.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Anyhow, you're in this position now where you're gaining some traction,
yeah a little bit, and you're gonna be judged.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Were you surprised on the way that?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Not only because because at the end of the day, bro, Like,
at the end of the day, you could feel what
you feel about us as the talking heads of this sport.
But then the reaction from the fans once it was said, right,
because then you and I start going back and forth
online and ship and people are having comments and they're
saying all these things like, were you surprised at the
response that you got from the fans and in the community.
(07:39):
Not only would because I swear to god, you know
what was sad for me because I've known.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
You played basketball to get and all this shit.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
You know what was sad for me was that you've
been fighting so well and ultimately after that fight, well
you did so good it turned in I'm looking at
comments and turns into people just shitting on you all
this other shit when you're doing all this great working
out to.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Goad h Yeah, I hear you. But it don't surprise
me though, you know, Uh, at the end of the day,
I feel like there's a lot that I still got
to show. It's one thing that you said I messed with,
you know, and it goes with the other fans, like,
it's not your responsibility, like to push me and put
me in a position where you know, Yet again, it's
just like you've giving your opinion right regardless of how
(08:22):
I feel about it. That's your true and honest opinion,
and I appreciate you for being your honest self if
that's the truth.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Did you did you.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
On positives that I said about you about the fight
leading up to the post.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
I hear the positive, you know what I'm saying, but
the negative always outweighs. You know, I'm unfortunate. But I
did hear the positive, you know for sure, But it
was the negative that really was launched out there, you know,
and that's what everybody focused on.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Everybody does, Yeah, exactly. That has to be frustrated.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
But again, it felt like when you said that, you
said you said something to the effect of, he puts
over Kabeb and all these dudes, But I've never seen
DC put over a brother.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
He talking about tea inmates. These are my teammates.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yeah, I think the only kid was like what Darren Win? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
your son.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Yeah, that's not my son, So disrestract that man, that's
fucked up. But then Win Sean Sewn bunch from your
Necker to Woodkanpas City, like I put on brothers. I
just these are my teammates talking about So I think
that when we got when we got crossed, it becomes
anything to stay cross opposed to kind of like you know,
(09:30):
but let's talk.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
About your fight.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I appreciate that because this.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Ship right here is like it's all like noise, right
because there's like for me, it's all noise. Like you
and I we never go fight. You're ept will never fight.
So it's like there's no point in me wasting the
energy doing all this ship.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So let's get to the fight.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
And I hope, I hope you don't think that's what
I'm trying to do anyway. I'm not trying to fight
you physically in any type of way, not trying to
make you feel no type of way. But my thing is, though,
I feel like at the end of the day, whatever
negative thing is, because what you said was kind of harsh. Bro,
my man, you know what I'm saying. You called me
a pussy and everything.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Absolutely because when you because I didn't want to bring
it up because absolutely, when you see anything about my mom,
that's what you're gonna get.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You don't get Daniel the TV, dude, no more. You
don't get Daniel the TV. Do more. You get Daniel
to do from Lafayette. That's what you get.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
And I try to I don't want to be that man,
but that's what you get at the end of the day.
Bro sweater god every time one of the time.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
And I hear you on that, and that's cool. But
at the end of the day, I got to say
something back as well.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I understand, and so we went back and forth.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
So where it is right, So when I come at you,
it's not like, Okay, I'm trying to fight you, but
let's result this and the best way. If we can
talk it out, that's cool too. But if we can
also train and get I feel like I'm always absolutely
proved no matter what. Yes, you know, no matter what.
So if you bless me with some work and actually.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Training, but absolutely and I would do that, I would
do that. I would do that.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
But ye, like anytime I saw it, like, dude, you
know how we mothers press in the black community, they
off limits, and it's like it just it changes me
and it's like this thing that and I wish immediately
after I sent it, I was like, Nah, should have
never did that.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I wish I didn't do that.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
That's how you feel.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Again, because then you go to that other place and
you key shot, I shouldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I'm better than that.
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Four straight wins, two tkos the Vicente Luke fight. I
thought you looked as good as you've ever looked inside
the optagon. What what has changed for you outside of
(12:48):
just going down to one seventy.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
I think it's been a lot of changes that has occurred,
not just uh with my training and everything, but just
just me myself, you know, just what I have to
go through every single day, bro, the sacrifices I had
to make, you know, being away from my family for
about four years, going out to Michigan, you know, traveling
(13:13):
being with a certain team, and then now establishing myself,
coming back home to my solid foundation in Saint Louis,
and like just just rebuilding, man and regrowing. I really
feel like, you know, it's just a new place for me,
you know. So for that fighting Vicente Luka, you know,
I knew there was a lot of changes. You know,
definitely would a win in that fact, So I think
it's just with every win now, It's just I'm able
(13:35):
to build exactly what I want.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
The last fight was actually harder though. It was like
a harder fight Thancent, but he didn't have the name recognition.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It wasn't hard in terms of how to fight played out, Yeah,
but on paper it seemed like it might be a
harder fight because of whoever Center is in his career.
And that's the fight that I think you should get
nothing but pats on the back for because not only
did you win right you were fighting striking, but the
rest of the takedowns you.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Did really well to make sure that you won in
front of your own.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Crowd, Like, yeah, I appreciate that. It was a lot
of pressure, uh, that was on my shoulders, especially, you know,
definitely hunting down Dana, definitely going out uh and and
really trying to you know, put my name out there, like, hey,
put me on the Saint Louis car put me on
the same Louis card. I'm'a be ready. I'm gonna be ready.
And you know, at first, you know, I thought I
wasn't gonna get the call, but I was like, man,
let me just keep working out, keep training it just
(14:23):
in case. And then you know, we got that two weeks. Notice. Uh,
and of course you know Rouse Boyev a great fighter.
I really feel like, you know uh what he was
on uh a ten fight finishing street, you know what
I mean, knocking dudes out, Uh, even in the UFC.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Once they gave me that, you know, that task, you know,
we had to go to work, you know, because I
really didn't know much about Rouse boy Yev, you know,
except for that, you know, that fun fact that he
was knocking dudes out. Uh. But once we did our homework, man,
and and I got with my solid foundation team, my
man Edric Dillard, Reggie Thompson, uh, Travis Brown. You know,
we we developed the game planning a short amount of time.
Man and we and we showed out that.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Is that why you stayed home for training camp this time?
Because you were able to do that in two weeks.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah, I had to. It was no way that I
was gonna be able to be prepared at the level
that I was prepared for that night if I would
have left out, you know. And plus you know, I
brought in my guy Hys from Rita to help out
for the camp as well, who also was a big
benefit into Wild Won.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
But you stayed at home. Is this camp too right
or did you go back to Michigan?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
No, no, no, I was in Saint Louis. But yeah,
so the first I skipped around, uh for this training camp.
And yet again it's me right now, there's no head
coach in my team.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Why do you think, Why do you think that's important?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I don't think. I don't think having a head coach
is important. Uh. I think I believe, in my personal opinion,
it's finding teachers and coaches that can train you in
the aspects of how you want to be trained. And uh,
I've been able to pretty much navigate my career for
a long time, you know, before I even got into Michigan,
and I got myself into the UFC right with my boy,
(16:05):
Eedric Dillar, and he was the only person that was
in my corner. But it's not like he was my coach.
It's somebody that you know, I trusted, who's my teammate,
you know, and anytime I needed to get some work in,
we will work together, you know. And he's the one
that helped me get into the UFC. But all the
training and all the process that I've been going through,
you know, I really been just building it up on
my own. But I get the right people around me.
(16:27):
Any information I ain't got, I seek it, you know
what I mean, And I grasp it and I take
it and I just put it into my game. So
I really don't think it's necessary to have a head coach,
but just have people that you know are like minded
and had the same vision in order for you to,
you know, get exactly where you're trying to go.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
So Stephen wonder Boy Thompson is as tricky a fighter
we've ever had in the UFC, in the history of
the UFC. He believes that in this fight this week,
and your ego is going to play a faster.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Abody your Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
So he said your ego because at times right like,
we all have them.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
We all have them. You don't hide that you have
an ego? Are you ashamed of it?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
But he's saying that that will be the thing that
might actually cost you because he said, you may think
that you could play his game and still win.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
I could play his game and still win. But my
thing is I want to make it as hard for
wonder Boy as possible. And and a lot of people
ask like, like, how did you prepare how did you
train for this fight for Wonder Boy? And at first
I was so focused on him and how his style is,
his karate, his bladed style and whatnot. And you know,
I went out to Texas for a short time to
(17:42):
to train with Raymond Daniels. Yeah, didn't get connected with
him unfortunately at the time. So I was kind of like,
you know, damn kind of bummed out. But regardless though,
it made me enforce me just to focus on what
I do, yes, you know, and then we can see
like which version of who is gonna be better in
that case because my thing is as much as people
call him a puzzle, who is he training with that
(18:04):
is compared to me? You know, that is as explosives
to leave my foot work, my in and out and
then also the power that I you know, possessed, so
thank you. So at the end of the day, we
definitely just gonna see, you know, who's able to you know,
really really show up in that case.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Shafcock rock Winoff seems like the guy that's gonna fight
for the belt next.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
You said you think Balla will expose him.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Chacott was able to finish one of the boy Because
you're on this run now, Juaquemin, you're starting to work
your way into those conversations.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Is there an emphasis.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
On not only winning but dominating Stephen won the boy
Thompson because they've seen now Jack dominate Gilbert and we
have seen, yeah, Shildcott dominate one of the boy So
if you're gonna be held in that same you know regard,
do you have to dominate one of.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
The boy kids?
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Just no, no, no, I got to get the old buddy
up out of there, forty two years old. You know,
I don't just expect you, but you know, I think
one the boy has done all of what he can
do in the UFC. You know, he didn't fought for
the title. He's been you know, highly ranked. That is
the lowest he's ever been ranked very very long time,
you know. But it's cool just to get that name
which one of the boy has. But going out there
(19:18):
and putting on a dominant performance, I think it's gonna
be everything.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Why do you think is gonna get dominated by the law.
He's nineteen and oh isn't he nineteen? Finishes?
Speaker 4 (19:25):
What?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That's crazy?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Dude?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
To win nineteen in a row and finished all nineteen
is crazy.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
It's crazy. Work. But you know when you do your
homework and you see you.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Watch them, you see I watch it.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Everybody.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
You're seeing something in it. You've seen it too, I've
never seen it. All I see is in fucking I
feel all I see.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
That's all I see is you got to look in
between that, you know, just like the rule of Boy. Yeah,
he was up a lot of he was, but we
saw a lot of holes. We saw a lot of holes.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
What's your prediction for the fight this weekend before I
get you.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Out there for myself or just overall, just we're all
fight houses in with my hand raised for sure.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, knock came on home, submit him. What do you say? Oh,
he gotta go.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
He's gonna get finished. But it depends on what wonder
Boy how he want to get finished? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, guys.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
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Only only old heads do Facebook. Make sure you guys
tapping with this dude doing Joaquin, Thanks you for checking
the man. I appreciate having the conversation.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I appreciate the conversation always.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Always, until next time.
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Peace
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Speaker 2 (01:49):
All right, guys, some here with book. We're gonna talk
by UFC three zero seven in a bit. First off,
mostly this is the biggest fight of your life. Gonna
focus on that. But before we're met, right, so we
have to have a conversation. Yeah, First off, as like
you know, we've going back and forth online, and that's
(02:10):
the thing, right, Like online it can be we can yell,
we can skim and do all these things, but when
you see face face, we have to communicate, right, We
have to talk to each other.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
So my question to you is where did we get
off track of you a lot?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Uh? I don't know. I mean to be honest with you,
from the very start, you know, it was just off
that post, you know, off of just what you said, you.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Know about the post fight interview.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Yes, sir, yes, sir. So I just feel like you
misquoted me, that's all that was. Uh, definitely about what
I said about you know, Condor McGregor, you know, and
calling him out. It's okay that you said it was
the worst call out, you know what I'm saying all
the time. That's cool. I don't care about that. It
was the other things that you said.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Well, what else did I say? Uh?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
You said that I call Connor McGregor's mother a bad name,
and I didn't do that, and I wouldn't do that.
But I honestly, with that being said, it's just like
everything that I got going on in my life, I
got a lot of women that took cur of me.
My mother's taking care of me, my grandmother's taking care
of me, you know. So I didn't attack his mom
or attack anybody that was close to him that was
(03:08):
a female. You know, I just went at him and
his father who got him into training and everything of
that nature. But yeah, it was just a misquote, you know, misunderstanding.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
But then you both when you when you posted it,
you included me with Michael Bisbane and Chill Sonny.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
They didn't misquot. That was just me.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
No, no, no, because everybody agreed. No no. I seen
Chill Sonny and he was talking on her as well.
He said the same thing. And then Michael Bisbee said
the same thing on their own post, so I see
it exactly what they said.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
They said the same thing on that post. So we
all as a collective, yeah, as a collector. So here's
the thing about that post. Fight, Yes, sir, right, you
call out Connor McGregor. Somebody told me yesterday, And that's
the thing, like, honestly, you call out Connor McGregor, we
all start talking about it because of that. If you
(03:59):
did that as a point to get people talking, then
it would have worked. But then again, it's just like
we constantly go It was like, we're constantly going back
and forth about this stuff, and then you get you
seem to get mad, but.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
In this position, can't get mad.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
You can't get mad in this position it's like we
get judged daily for what we do when we're on
this platform.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
No, but you still misunderstanding. You misquoted me, But I
didn't misquote you. Okay, So what you say, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I don't know it by word. Now I don't have
the exact quote by word.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Now I'm going tell you what I said. Tell me,
I said, Con McGregor is a MiG hole. That's what
I said. So it's safe to say that his mama raised.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
But that's but that's the problem. Though. You can't be
saying mama.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Raised the whole though, Okay, why not, because.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You're talking about this dude's mom. Still, that's disrespectful. That's
the job that she did, walking The job that she
did is raised that man.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yes, sir, so she did you tell?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
You said his mom did a bad job.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I didn't, But I didn't call her a bad name.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
But you didn't call her.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
You get and get all right there, But I get that,
But I get that, but I get that, right, But
then that turns into you saying that our mama's raised holes.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Come on, man, we can't do that.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
We don't do that, like we just don't do that,
like we we have to at times, we just have
to be careful because we don't know each other situation.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
One time, John Jones and not who had the most
bitter rival induistinct.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
One time he said, I'm your fucking daddy.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
That's what he said to right, And then he found
out my father got murdered and he made Danny White
message me to talk about that.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
So saying the man mama raised a hole. You don't
know what that man mama did.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
We don't know that, Like those are words that just
can't be spewed out like that.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
That's just me because I don't because because like we
don't do that.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
No, I feel there's a couple of things that I
leave off of the limits. You know. I don't talk
about the dead, and I don't talk about you know,
people kids, you know. But there's other things that I
feel like, whatever I gotta do to sell a fight
and get somebody's attention, that's what I'm finna do. But
yet again, though, you know, I feel like you just
misquoted me. Now, if people didn't like my approach to it,
(06:14):
then that's cool. I don't care about that. But just
keep it real and keep it honest. That's not what
I said.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
So why do you why do you keep tagging me
on shit?
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Then? I love tagging you, man, but still you keep
tagging me cuts and I'm like, I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I feel like because now you're trolling me.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I'm not trolling you.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I really like, I gotta I gotta open workout.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
That I'm finna do at two pm at David Bustle.
I love for you to come out so we can
get some work and we can roll or something like that.
You know what I mean. And it's not like gonna
like to be mean or whatever. But you said that
we could work.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
We will work.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
We will work, but we have never come across each
other since, like, I haven't seen you.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
That's why I tag you on a lot of things
and a lot of situations. Lets you know where I'm at.
But it's not to be like on some trolling stuff
like you know, you feel like to me, it feel
like you trolling me. Well, I apologize. Is that if
that's how you feel, Yeah, that's how I take it.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
It's all good man.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Anyhow, you're in this position now where you're gaining some traction,
yeah a little bit, and you're gonna be judged.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Were you surprised on the way that?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Not only because because at the end of the day, bro, Like,
at the end of the day, you could feel what
you feel about us as the talking heads of this sport.
But then the reaction from the fans once it was said, right,
because then you and I start going back and forth
online and ship and people are having comments and they're
saying all these things like, were you surprised at the
response that you got from the fans and in the community.
(07:39):
Not only would because I swear to god, you know
what was sad for me because I've known.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
You played basketball to get and all this shit.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
You know what was sad for me was that you've
been fighting so well and ultimately after that fight, well
you did so good it turned in I'm looking at
comments and turns into people just shitting on you all
this other shit when you're doing all this great working
out to.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Goad h Yeah, I hear you. But it don't surprise
me though, you know, Uh, at the end of the day,
I feel like there's a lot that I still got
to show. It's one thing that you said I messed with,
you know, and it goes with the other fans, like,
it's not your responsibility, like to push me and put
me in a position where you know, Yet again, it's
just like you've giving your opinion right regardless of how
(08:22):
I feel about it. That's your true and honest opinion,
and I appreciate you for being your honest self if
that's the truth.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Did you did you.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
On positives that I said about you about the fight
leading up to the post.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
I hear the positive, you know what I'm saying, but
the negative always outweighs. You know, I'm unfortunate. But I
did hear the positive, you know for sure, But it
was the negative that really was launched out there, you know,
and that's what everybody focused on.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Everybody does, Yeah, exactly. That has to be frustrated.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
But again, it felt like when you said that, you
said you said something to the effect of, he puts
over Kabeb and all these dudes, But I've never seen
DC put over a brother.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
He talking about tea inmates. These are my teammates.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yeah, I think the only kid was like what Darren Win? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
your son.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Yeah, that's not my son, So disrestract that man, that's
fucked up. But then Win Sean Sewn bunch from your
Necker to Woodkanpas City, like I put on brothers. I
just these are my teammates talking about So I think
that when we got when we got crossed, it becomes
anything to stay cross opposed to kind of like you know,
(09:30):
but let's talk.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
About your fight.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I appreciate that because this.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Ship right here is like it's all like noise, right
because there's like for me, it's all noise. Like you
and I we never go fight. You're ept will never fight.
So it's like there's no point in me wasting the
energy doing all this ship.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So let's get to the fight.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
And I hope, I hope you don't think that's what
I'm trying to do anyway. I'm not trying to fight
you physically in any type of way, not trying to
make you feel no type of way. But my thing is, though,
I feel like at the end of the day, whatever
negative thing is, because what you said was kind of harsh. Bro,
my man, you know what I'm saying. You called me
a pussy and everything.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Absolutely because when you because I didn't want to bring
it up because absolutely, when you see anything about my mom,
that's what you're gonna get.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You don't get Daniel the TV, dude, no more. You
don't get Daniel the TV. Do more. You get Daniel
to do from Lafayette. That's what you get.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
And I try to I don't want to be that man,
but that's what you get at the end of the day.
Bro sweater god every time one of the time.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
And I hear you on that, and that's cool. But
at the end of the day, I got to say
something back as well.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I understand, and so we went back and forth.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
So where it is right, So when I come at you,
it's not like, Okay, I'm trying to fight you, but
let's result this and the best way. If we can
talk it out, that's cool too. But if we can
also train and get I feel like I'm always absolutely
proved no matter what. Yes, you know, no matter what.
So if you bless me with some work and actually.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Training, but absolutely and I would do that, I would
do that. I would do that.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
But ye, like anytime I saw it, like, dude, you
know how we mothers press in the black community, they
off limits, and it's like it just it changes me
and it's like this thing that and I wish immediately
after I sent it, I was like, Nah, should have
never did that.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I wish I didn't do that.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
That's how you feel.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Again, because then you go to that other place and
you key shot, I shouldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I'm better than that.
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Four straight wins, two tkos the Vicente Luke fight. I
thought you looked as good as you've ever looked inside
the optagon. What what has changed for you outside of
(12:48):
just going down to one seventy.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
I think it's been a lot of changes that has occurred,
not just uh with my training and everything, but just
just me myself, you know, just what I have to
go through every single day, bro, the sacrifices I had
to make, you know, being away from my family for
about four years, going out to Michigan, you know, traveling
(13:13):
being with a certain team, and then now establishing myself,
coming back home to my solid foundation in Saint Louis,
and like just just rebuilding, man and regrowing. I really
feel like, you know, it's just a new place for me,
you know. So for that fighting Vicente Luka, you know,
I knew there was a lot of changes. You know,
definitely would a win in that fact, So I think
it's just with every win now, It's just I'm able
(13:35):
to build exactly what I want.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
The last fight was actually harder though. It was like
a harder fight Thancent, but he didn't have the name recognition.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It wasn't hard in terms of how to fight played out, Yeah,
but on paper it seemed like it might be a
harder fight because of whoever Center is in his career.
And that's the fight that I think you should get
nothing but pats on the back for because not only
did you win right you were fighting striking, but the
rest of the takedowns you.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Did really well to make sure that you won in
front of your own.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Crowd, Like, yeah, I appreciate that. It was a lot
of pressure, uh, that was on my shoulders, especially, you know,
definitely hunting down Dana, definitely going out uh and and
really trying to you know, put my name out there, like, hey,
put me on the Saint Louis car put me on
the same Louis card. I'm'a be ready. I'm gonna be ready.
And you know, at first, you know, I thought I
wasn't gonna get the call, but I was like, man,
let me just keep working out, keep training it just
(14:23):
in case. And then you know, we got that two weeks. Notice. Uh,
and of course you know Rouse Boyev a great fighter.
I really feel like, you know uh what he was
on uh a ten fight finishing street, you know what
I mean, knocking dudes out, Uh, even in the UFC.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Once they gave me that, you know, that task, you know,
we had to go to work, you know, because I
really didn't know much about Rouse boy Yev, you know,
except for that, you know, that fun fact that he
was knocking dudes out. Uh. But once we did our homework, man,
and and I got with my solid foundation team, my
man Edric Dillard, Reggie Thompson, uh, Travis Brown. You know,
we we developed the game planning a short amount of time.
Man and we and we showed out that.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Is that why you stayed home for training camp this time?
Because you were able to do that in two weeks.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah, I had to. It was no way that I
was gonna be able to be prepared at the level
that I was prepared for that night if I would
have left out, you know. And plus you know, I
brought in my guy Hys from Rita to help out
for the camp as well, who also was a big
benefit into Wild Won.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
But you stayed at home. Is this camp too right
or did you go back to Michigan?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
No, no, no, I was in Saint Louis. But yeah,
so the first I skipped around, uh for this training camp.
And yet again it's me right now, there's no head
coach in my team.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Why do you think, Why do you think that's important?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I don't think. I don't think having a head coach
is important. Uh. I think I believe, in my personal opinion,
it's finding teachers and coaches that can train you in
the aspects of how you want to be trained. And uh,
I've been able to pretty much navigate my career for
a long time, you know, before I even got into Michigan,
and I got myself into the UFC right with my boy,
(16:05):
Eedric Dillar, and he was the only person that was
in my corner. But it's not like he was my coach.
It's somebody that you know, I trusted, who's my teammate,
you know, and anytime I needed to get some work in,
we will work together, you know. And he's the one
that helped me get into the UFC. But all the
training and all the process that I've been going through,
you know, I really been just building it up on
my own. But I get the right people around me.
(16:27):
Any information I ain't got, I seek it, you know
what I mean, And I grasp it and I take
it and I just put it into my game. So
I really don't think it's necessary to have a head coach,
but just have people that you know are like minded
and had the same vision in order for you to,
you know, get exactly where you're trying to go.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
So Stephen wonder Boy Thompson is as tricky a fighter
we've ever had in the UFC, in the history of
the UFC. He believes that in this fight this week,
and your ego is going to play a faster.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Abody your Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
So he said your ego because at times right like,
we all have them.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
We all have them. You don't hide that you have
an ego? Are you ashamed of it?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
But he's saying that that will be the thing that
might actually cost you because he said, you may think
that you could play his game and still win.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
I could play his game and still win. But my
thing is I want to make it as hard for
wonder Boy as possible. And and a lot of people
ask like, like, how did you prepare how did you
train for this fight for Wonder Boy? And at first
I was so focused on him and how his style is,
his karate, his bladed style and whatnot. And you know,
I went out to Texas for a short time to
(17:42):
to train with Raymond Daniels. Yeah, didn't get connected with
him unfortunately at the time. So I was kind of like,
you know, damn kind of bummed out. But regardless though,
it made me enforce me just to focus on what
I do, yes, you know, and then we can see
like which version of who is gonna be better in
that case because my thing is as much as people
call him a puzzle, who is he training with that
(18:04):
is compared to me? You know, that is as explosives
to leave my foot work, my in and out and
then also the power that I you know, possessed, so
thank you. So at the end of the day, we
definitely just gonna see, you know, who's able to you know,
really really show up in that case.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Shafcock rock Winoff seems like the guy that's gonna fight
for the belt next.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
You said you think Balla will expose him.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Chacott was able to finish one of the boy Because
you're on this run now, Juaquemin, you're starting to work
your way into those conversations.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Is there an emphasis.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
On not only winning but dominating Stephen won the boy
Thompson because they've seen now Jack dominate Gilbert and we
have seen, yeah, Shildcott dominate one of the boy So
if you're gonna be held in that same you know regard,
do you have to dominate one of.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
The boy kids?
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Just no, no, no, I got to get the old buddy
up out of there, forty two years old. You know,
I don't just expect you, but you know, I think
one the boy has done all of what he can
do in the UFC. You know, he didn't fought for
the title. He's been you know, highly ranked. That is
the lowest he's ever been ranked very very long time,
you know. But it's cool just to get that name
which one of the boy has. But going out there
(19:18):
and putting on a dominant performance, I think it's gonna
be everything.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Why do you think is gonna get dominated by the law.
He's nineteen and oh isn't he nineteen? Finishes?
Speaker 4 (19:25):
What?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That's crazy?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Dude?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
To win nineteen in a row and finished all nineteen
is crazy.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
It's crazy. Work. But you know when you do your
homework and you see you.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Watch them, you see I watch it.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Everybody.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
You're seeing something in it. You've seen it too, I've
never seen it. All I see is in fucking I
feel all I see.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
That's all I see is you got to look in
between that, you know, just like the rule of Boy. Yeah,
he was up a lot of he was, but we
saw a lot of holes. We saw a lot of holes.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
What's your prediction for the fight this weekend before I
get you.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Out there for myself or just overall, just we're all
fight houses in with my hand raised for sure.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, knock came on home, submit him. What do you say? Oh,
he gotta go.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
He's gonna get finished. But it depends on what wonder
Boy how he want to get finished? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, guys.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Joaquin Buckley fights at UFC three oh seven in the
featured prelim against Stephen wonder Boy Thompson. Make sure you
tap into everything he's doing. Go to this x Instagram.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
You got Facebook? Y'all still do Facebook?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I don't Facebook, yo, y'all too young to do Facebook.
Only only old heads do Facebook. Make sure you guys
tapping with this dude doing Joaquin, Thanks you for checking
the man. I appreciate having the conversation.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I appreciate the conversation always.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Always, until next time.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
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Speaker 4 (20:42):
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