Daniel Cormier TV - DC ARGUES Ilia Topuria HAS TO FIGHT Arman Tsarukyan next: "IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN"

Daniel Cormier IS BACK to give his take on Ilia Topuria, Arman Tsarukyan, Paddy Pimblett, and what fight NEEDS TO BE THE TITLE FIGHT for "El Matador" next. DC argues that the next fight for Ilia at lightweight HAS TO BE Arman Tsarukyan. Cormier says that despite the attention and hype that Paddy Pimblett has gotten as the next challenge, it is Arman who deserves and ultimately will get the next shot at the title. DC also discusses the possibility of Topuria moving up to fight Islam Makhachev after his dominant submission win vs. Jack Della Maddalena. #Volume

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we talk about fights, right, we always look for the
biggest fight, the baddest fight, the number one contender fight,
the title fight. The ones that gets the most excited
are the ones that matter the most. Last weekend, Armand
Seruki on dispatched Dan Hook. There is no better way

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to explain what Armand did on last weekend in Doha.
He beat him from pillar to post essentially and really
did re establish himself as the number one contender. So
Armand Serukian has long been one of, if not the

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best lightweights in the world. Even when Islam was going
to fight him in Los Angeles, many felt like that
was going to be easily the hardest fight that Islam
could have had. Obviously, the fight didn't happen because Armand
ended up pulling out the night before with a back injury.
It felt like the UFC, at least to all the

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people close to Armin, were gonna really put him on
a back burner and almost punish him right for not
fighting and almost changing an entire fight card the night
before it happened. Then Armon goes and weighs in as
a backup fighter when Iliot Thepouria fought Charles Olavera for

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the belt, right, that was one you thought that might
get him a little good grace. They know he can
make way, because there's a lot of people that thought
Armon didn't wrestle or didn't fight because he couldn't make
the weight in Los Angeles. But then when he goes
and he needs the backup fighter, he makes the weight easily,
steps on the scale well, you start to think maybe

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he will get credit for that and he'll get a
chance to fight for the belt. That didn't happen. You
figured he could have waited and possibly gotten the title shot,
but he right away schedules a fight against Dan Hooker,
who was riding hot at the time. One thing that
people like to do when somebody gets beaten the way

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that Hooker got beat last weekend is they speak about
him and the things that he might have struggled with
in the past. But what they forget is the state
that the person was in at the time of the event.
He had just beat Mataz Gamrock look phenomenal in that fight,
defended every takedown. Gamrod tried to take him down, beat

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him up, and one a decision was very close. Remember
Arman went tooth and nail with Mantez Gamrot. Now I'm
not trying to tell you that mma math works, that's
not the case. I'm telling you that Dan Hooker had
showed an ability to defend takedowns. He just didn't know
that he would have to show an ability above that
ability to defend takedowns against Arman serukiin so armand Waising

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as the backup fighter. Armand shows up to dough how
to fight Dan Hooker, a guy who's riding hot in
a place where he really didn't have much to gain
because he was already the number one contender. He was
already the number one contender. We established that way back
in January when he was supposed to fight Islam Makatchev.
Remember an Islam Makachav fight, who back in the day

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was much closer than many fights we have seen Islam
involved in. Even now up at one seventy we have
not seen him struggle or have as tough a time
with those guys as he had with armand Seruki Young.
All that is is background information before you start trying
to poke a hole in the case that I'm trying

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to make Now. Saturday, you go in as a minus
eight hundred favorite against Dan Hooker. That in itself tells
you what the world thinks of Arman, especially in this matchup.
He goes out there, not only does he win because
he's supposed to win, he dominates Dan Hooker. It never
felt like this fight was close. It never felt like

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this fight was competitive. It felt like you had a
guy that was a number one contender fighting a guy
who was very very good who was fighting very very well,
but did not truly belong fighting with that guy. We
always say, sometimes when you're younger and you're wrestling or
you're in sport, sometimes you win to a place that

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you're really not suited for. It looked like on Saturday,
Dan Nookred won so much above what he was supposed
to win that he found himself in the place that
he didn't really belong. The guy was just better. Arm
And beat him up. Arm And beat him up, finished him.
What does he earn only a tight which he already had,

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which you already had. Now, the the problem with the
whole scenario is when Iliot Topouria won the belt, Patty
Pimblet was in the arena with Justin Gaegee and so
many others. Patty goes into the octagon. Now everybody gets

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this visual of Patty and Ilia when in reality, I
don't know that Patty, and he's great, has a resume
that has earned him that title fight over Armanserukian. Because
now armand has beaten Bianilla Daru's, Charles Olavera and Dan Hooker.

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Patty hasn't lost. Patty beat Michael Chandler. So the resume
doesn't match. But again, the visual of them in the
octagon feels like that was a number one contender. Armond
wasn't there, so I wenting Saturday. He earned what he
already had back in January. But now the champion, the

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great Iliot, the Pooria is saying, I want to fight
Paddy Pimblet. He said after Arman one, he goes, I'm
still wanting to fight Paddy Pimblet. He doesn't seem to
want to fight Armed Serukian, and I don't know that

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he's given as much reason as to why he doesn't
want to fight Arman Serukian. The reality is that's the fight.
It is armand it is Armin versus Ilia. There really
shouldn't be there. We really shouldn't be discussing anything past

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Armin versus Ilia. If we are, okay, Patty Pimblet, that's fine, right,
it's big hype if it's gonna be the first paramount card.
I get people tune in because Patty does garner a
lot of attention, But in terms of a matchup, in
terms of a fight, it's illiot to pour you versus

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arm and Serukian. And it's not even questionable. I know,
for a fact that they wanted to do Patty versus
Justin a win over Justin after what he's done already. Now,
I would have bought Patty pim to fighting for the
belt right now, because I still believe that Patty needs

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to continue to grow in the octagon a little bit,
because he's right at the ship and now he's fought
so well that we go man the lady beat channeled.
We've never seen that before. But Illly is a different piece.
He's a savage. So it's arm and Serukian. I believe

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that Armin versus Italy is the fight man from the
interactions they have, the way that you can tell that
those guys don't like each other. Ilias said he slapped
him the other day, Armand said he touched his face,
and now he's said he slapped him. It's easy to
build a fight between these two because when you build
a fight between these two, you feel like he's going

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to be very competitive. You feel like there is a
chance Arma Tzerukian can win. But you also know that
there's not a person in the world that Iliot the
poor you can't beat. With these great champions, there is
nothing better than going into a fight knowing that they
are going to have their hands full and they're going

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to be challenged. It feels like that's a fight that
would challenge the great Iliot to pour you. I mean,
Arman lost in twenty twenty two versus Gamrod, but he's
a different person. He's won five in a row. He
has earned an opportunity to fight for the belt. I
think Ilias should grant that. I think Ilias should go. Okay,

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that's the guy because he just fought Charles Olavera, and
Charles Olavera had lost to Armin very recently. That's just
the truth. So if you're willing to fight Charles, you
should fight Armin. I think it's a great fight, you guys.
I don't know why though. Why is this fight not
already happening outside of us seeing Patty in there as

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the the number one contender. Why and for the people
that might want to go and tell me the comments
people that might want to go, Well, he's afraid of Armon.
He's already he still wants to fight ilia or sorry,
Ilias still wants to fight Islam. Ili even said I'll

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go to one seventy fight Paddy there so that I'm
in the same weight class as Islam. It sounds like
they're not wanting Iliot to go up again. But he's
willing to go up and fight Islam, so it's art
to say. And he's afraid of Arman Serukian. But I
still don't understand the answers. I don't know why we're

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getting this hesitancy from to Pouria to fight armand Serukia.
It needs to happen. You guys, let me know in
the comments what you think. Who's the number one contender?
Is it Armand or is it Patty Pimlet. It's balled
down to those two. It seems like it's a two

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man race. Who do you think should be in the
octagon with the champion Italy to Poria the next time
he goes in there? All right, till next time, guys
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