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Speaker 1 (02:05):
Last time, it was flight week and we were talking
like this. It was cool, you know, like it was cool,
but like I was beating you and Madden. I wasn't
really like trying to like I wasn't really like trying to.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Like help your confidence.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You know, you're supposed to really help a dude when
they're on the verge of a championship.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
And I beat the ship out of you.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I mean, I'm a hell I can help you. Remember
what happened.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Actually, I got the footage, bro, got the footage. I
have the footage.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I have the footage.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Just know that when my YouTube channel, I'm my video
coming out.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
First, and you know what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
You know how I do know how I so.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
So what I what I was kind of like before
we get started. So how the injury?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Right?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Everything?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
It's public knowledge, all right, guys, they won't have to
do this. So Jamal got hurt playing basketball. People don't
know is I did it, I crossed it.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I got hey, I did crossed him. I would just
tell you all the truth. So what happened is, hey, yo.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I didn't want to just look at emotion.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I don't want to tell you at first. I was
scared of me, but I was scared for you to
find out what happened. What happened was I did it.
I hit him with the y'all.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Remember when AI hit Michael Jordan. It was flipped flip yo.
It was the young dude. It was the young dude. Stop. Hey,
it was the young dude with AI doing it to
the older guy.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
But with us it was the older guy did it
to the young guy. I crossed jam all. He fell,
and all of a sudden I saw.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
The picking he would be. He would have been injured,
he would have been injured. I was giving y'all work.
Y'all got lucky. I had about what twenty points in
like five minutes on y'all.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
He kind of played well, yeah, you know why right,
because Phil is a ball Phil is the biggest ball
hog ever in the basketball game.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Feels the ball home.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
He still had all your points off a free throws
the game, and you always puts.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Off free throws. Come on, man, you paid the rest.
You paid the rest. Come on, man, come on, man,
you can tell me it.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Was a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Oh yeah, I might have paid the rest. I know
you paid that brother.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yeah you saw that brother.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
He was.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
He was a cheater.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
That it was a cheat. I sniffed him out immediately.
I was like, oh, this guy right here will cheat
for me. Let me give him twenty bucks.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I did.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I did everything I could. I told Josh, I was like, bro,
don't let DC get along. With the rest, Bro, don't
let him do anything.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
It's never never, it's never, it's never, it's never. Every opportunity,
every opportunity.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
They always try to watch me because they know I
gotta get every opportunity. Anyhow, Jamal Hill, thanks for checking
in with my brother. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Sweet dreams right there, Jamal Hill back in the title picture.
You know, it's kind of hard for me because when
I when I introduce you, it's like, I want to say, Jamal,
all challenges for the light heavyweight championship in the world,
but in reality, you have to walk away from the belt.
And I felt like immediately when the fight was announced,
you were carrying a bit of a chip like, Yo,
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this mine. I'm just coming back to get what's mine.
Do you still feel like that?
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely. First at first I
didn't really I didn't really care. It was just me
coming back to get what's mine.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
But just talk man that it seemed like it annoyed you.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Man, Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Uh, it wasn't the fact that people people going for
Alex like I don't care, big up him.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
He deserves the big ups. He is a legend.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
He's great, he's a great he's a phenomenal fighter, he's
an extreme talent.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
But you can, you can.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
You can show respect and pay how much to somebody
without disrespecting when somebody else has done. And you know,
at the end of the day, I am a world champion.
So the I don't think I was given the level
of respect that came for that or with it, or
just just the fact of I'm willing to go in
down and fight these dudes. Yeah, I mean, just the
basic I don't even think it's just just the level
of respect. I don't feel what's given at all, even
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not even not even just the fact of the champion
championship thing. And the more that that kind of got louder,
the more it kind of grew.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Well, once it starts to become a reality, it.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Started to kind of buy into the hype and stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
It's like, okay, but once you once you start paying
attention to it becomes real, then it angers you. I
always felt that, I you know, honestly, like I went
into three title defenses as the underdog, and I felt it,
but it always served as motivation, Like did it motivate
you when you first started getting ready yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Oh yeah, one hundred percent of motivation anytime I feel
anytime I feel a little bit tired, a little bit
tired or a little anything, or I mean I want
that extra push. Yeah, it rings, it rings, It rings
loud in my head.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
You know you and I like extra round Yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Extra extra rep yeah, extra everything. That's that's how I felt.
That's how that's where.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I put that MG. Yet they don't go into the cage. Oh,
I got to take it heap. It goes into the work.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And I was talking to my nephew the other day, like,
I don't like to feel disrespected. There's like, I don't
know if that's something that you where I grow up
from where I come up, is like, I don't I
didn't like feeling disrespected. It felt like you felt like
you were being disrespected, and I could hear it in
your words because I know you right, So like watching
you talk, watching YouTube videos when you sit what you
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do a great job and you say it's beautiful. Bro,
That's how I know you got money because.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
You got that beautiful.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
But all I know you got money because that's said
is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
But I was watching you in your eyes and it
just felt like you like where I'm from, we say
it feel played like I don't want to feel played.
It felt like it seemed like you felt played a
little bit by the old thing.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I felt like, Yeah, I feel like I feel like
people are playing with me in a in a very
very disrespectful manner.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
It's not just that, like like you said, no man
wants to be disrespected, No man likes to be respect
We're not built well, that's not how we're built. That's
not how we that's not how we operate, you know
what I mean. That's why whenever, certainly, whenever you make
sure whenever we come and we talk, I speak to
you and respectful.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yep, I mean I make sure I shake your hand.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
It's not it's not as long as so much of
the fear of what it's just the underlining understanding.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, I don't want no problems.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
I don't want no confronation just because confrontation isn't advantageous
to what I have, what I have planned, to what
I want to do in life and things like that.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
But you know what I'm.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Saying happened to me, had happened to me recently, is
because everybody was picking me up I keep telling these
dudes stop picking me up.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Man. I'm like, yo, y'all gotta stop picking me off.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
The ground like I'm a grown ass man.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
But I call itch. Somebody's calling me a bit out
of that. I'm like, come on, man, this ain't we
don't do that. Like it's like, we don't do that,
and being disrespected is one thing. Look, you get to
fight this dude this weekend. Clearly the injury was something
very serious. What are your emotions coming in where I'm
gonna be honest, Like I'll put a current back a
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little bit. I heard it was gonna be in Brazil,
but like it's a month earlier. Like, what was the
emotions when the fight happened a month earlier opposed to
the extra time you could have had?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
No, let's go, let's let's go.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
I don't look at the time between now in Brazil
is it wouldn't have It wouldn't changing nothing, Nothing would
change between now as opposed to result.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
As I get more anxious and I get more tired.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Of waiting, did you just feel better in recovery or
something like?
Speaker 5 (09:09):
I just felt good. I just felt I I felt
like I did everything right. I did I did what
I was told I did. I went to the best
of the best, and I did what they told me
to do. Yeah, and other people that have already had successes.
I haven't, excuse me, I have. I've seen the results.
I've been jumping. I've been jumping, lifting off off of
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my leg for months, for months now, so you know,
so there's.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
No lingering questions in regards to that.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
No, no, not for me. Yeah, I mean maybe something
that everybody else might.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I Well, when initially when I when I heard it
as a person that cares about you, I.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Was like, ah, seems a little.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
But then now you're telling me this gives me ease,
Like you're like, hey, nobody knows the man better than
the man, right, we all just guessing. We're all just
guessing because we're not in contact with you every single
day to find out how you feel. And you saying
that now it gives you a level of ease going
into the fight. Clearly he fights with the leg kicks, right,
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what have you done in preparation for that to to
make sure that you're not Cause it seems as though
when with the kicks is the ability and just slows
the poners down. And then their greatest weapons on it
as effective because he's kind of wounded them in that way.
What have you done to prepare for that?
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Just be sharp, stay sharp, stay make sure i'm i'm
I'm fit, and then and then and then get shape
to do everything that I that I need to do
to stay on point in the fight. You know, most
people start to get taken apart and things like that
because they start to wear it out and they're not
as sharp as they make mistakes you.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Have to make.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
You have to be sharp. But another thing is the
leg kicks that he throws. They're not unfamiliar to me. Yeah,
you know, the tech the technique that he uses is
it's it's a very rare technique that he uses, but
I've seen it before.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, it's the same.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
It's a it's it's almost borderline along the same same
technique that.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I was talking Okay, I mean that I was talking
to you. That he implements it. He's a lot more
he's a lot more implement than I am.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
But I understand what he's doing and I understand what
he's looking for when he does it.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
You know, when you and Alex got announced as the
main event, right, there was people going, oh the second
I hadn't know. I had an argument with that yesterday.
I would a guy yesterday and he.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Goes, oh, you're so excited about this?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I was like, it's the best card that we've ever had.
I said, what would you have booked?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Let me think about it.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
What you mean like, if you got something, better, tell
me what it is, because this is the best fight
the two best light half reached the world fighting for
the championship in a fight card that fits it. When
you started hearing that did you pay at this joy that,
you go, well, fuck these people. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Nah, I understood. I understood. I understood that it was
Dana's the problem. The dad is kind of set me up,
kind of set me up for an hour.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
He kind of set me up for that one a
little bit because the way he was said the way
he said it. Because I didn't mind you. I didn't
see this clip. I didn't see the whole UFC hundred
is going to be this. I didn't see that.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I didn't know anything about any of that. They called
me and I was like, yeah, you told me.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
At the at the ax you walked up and he's like, yo,
it's on. I was like, what I was at the
APEX for a fight night and I was like already,
like dude.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Yeah, we're getting downe. I couldn't believe it. Yeah, bro
it was. But I think it was it was just
the fact that they were expecting something that they weren't
but that they didn't see coming.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
There's no Brock. But the only thing is missus the
wild factor a brock lesnar or coming.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
But didn't everybody knew that me and Alex were gonna fight.
Everybody knew that that I was coming back. Alex was
the champion eventually if he that fight was going to happen.
So I think that kind of took the wild factor.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
With the wild factor, that's all I miss it is it?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
But the fighter said to me, I feel like, you know,
why do my brother?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Because when you beat Glover and they panted him in
the corner and he was staring at you, people were going,
oh my god, could you imagine if Alex went up
in for Jamal.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Now you get it and you want.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
To complain, but that's the thing, right, But nah, that's
the thing right.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
So that's what I called.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Back to when I see that. But I think this
is just a phenomenal fight. Do you think that? And
we've look Man, I'm a talking head now. All I
do is talk about fighting. I talk about y'all. Y'all
actually make me money. Like because I got a job
at ESPN because y'all talk, I get to talk about
y'all doing great things.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Sorry you started, Hey, y'all the fighters before us built
us up to where I'm able to make the money.
That a yes, because I'm gonna be honest with you,
within whatever ten fights in the New YOC, the money
that I've made within those ten fights is unheard of.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Means, it's not heard of, especially for some guys that
went before the foundation along the way.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
But when we're talking about you, guys, I questioned whether
or not the frustration of that stuff was making you
say you were gonna fight in a way that wasn't
conducive to you being as successful, not taking him down,
striking with him?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
What what?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
What? What's what goes in?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I said, that's because that's I'm gonna fight how I fight.
You wanna knock him? I fight how I fight? You know,
I fight?
Speaker 5 (14:11):
I fight, how I fight, and do I do if
a takedown is there, if it's if it presents itself
and it's a way for me to go to get
him down and get him out of there, yes I
will be. Yeah, of course not that's that.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I'm not I'm not stupid. I don't care like the whole.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Me having losing respect from somebody who's never been in
a gym or don't even know how to throw. I've
seen this guy talking ship the other day. He's like, oh, bro,
his technique is trusted. I just see I just see
him as just so sloppy and all this and that,
and dude has like him hitting a bag on his pape.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Come on you bro, never see bro.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
It's like, so, so I'm I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna
I'm gonna give you a chance.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I'm gonna give up.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
I'm gonna give up getting my belt back and everything
that comes with that with it, A lot comes with
that to satisfied Joe Nobody.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, nah, bro, I'm gonna go in. I'm an fight,
how I fight, and whatever is open, I'm going to
take that open.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Do you missing just but do you just like it
feels to me and Ryan Clark always says it goes
Jamal seems like he just loves fighting. It seems like
when you're in there, you're having the time of your life.
In that bloody fight with Glover, it seemed like you've
never been more comfortable and more like you're It seemed
like you were at peace with all that was happening
in there. Where'd you develop that?
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Uh, I'm just I'm just a competitor, man, look at a.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Look at it I got, hey, Jamal, Oh my god,
I think at this guy.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, I just I'm a competitor.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Man.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
I love I love the competition, and I love to compete,
you know. So I don't know, man, some just snap
off a me and I just I'm just having fun.
I just I just love it. I want more of it,
and I can't get enough of it.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
It really is really in the whenever I watch my
fights back, something about whenever I watch my fights back
and I see him, and it's like after the fights.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Always like, damn, I want more.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I want more.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I wanna see more. I wanna watch myself do more.
I want more. So it makes you wanna fight more.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Those great moments. Yeah, it's all about moments, and your
moment is gonna be walking to the octagon and the
main event of UFC three hundred. Could you ever imagine
being in this position right now when you first started?
Speaker 5 (16:17):
My moment is me getting my hand raised and getting
my belt wrapped back around my waist at the end
of the UFC three hundred.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
At the UFC three hundred, the biggest fight card ever.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Biggest fight card.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
He well, did you allow yourself to think of that though?
When you were on your way up like Man from
the Contender series to this russ it it you g
You set the bar. You and O'Malley have set the
standard for what that show can be. Yeah, right, Did
you ever think about, like Man, I will one day
headline the biggest car in UFC history?
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Did I think of your na It was more so
just being the best that I can be, uh as
far as a martial artist man father those things, and
just letting the chips fall as they may. I'll followed
they gonna fall. You know, I've had I've had a
lot of moments in my life. I just tried to
control things and paint things through like I'm playing. I
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want it this way, I want it this way, and
then when it came out, it was good, but it
wasn't what I expected, and that kind of diminished things
for me. So now it's just taking take it for
what it is, bro because no matter what it is,
it is.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Unique to you. Unique is yelique to you.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
My experience is unique to me, you know what I mean.
And it's you have to you have to have that
appreciation in.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
That and like like you said about the fights, watching
it one more greatness that night of the fight, you
don't sleep. Sleep is not a thing, right Like, after
you're done with that fight, sleep is You're never going
to bed. The adrenaline is just way too much to
come down from. It's like it's a feeling that you
could never really replicate no matter what you do.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
That's why I like that that picture.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
There's a picture that was posted with me laying next
to my belt and people put it like next to
the messy thing like I was. I wasn't copying it,
but I was literally sitting there just taking it in
with my belt. I'm back in my hotel room just
team was ready to go laid out. I won't want
I can't sleep. I'm just sitting there kind of taking
it and I dozed off for a for a split
second and in one of my teammates, one man, they
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caught they caught that moment.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
But it was just like I didn't sleep. I slept
maybe like an hour.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
And you can't, you can't.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
You can't get rid of that feeling. It's it's the
greatest thing in the world.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
And it's it's hard to describe, and it's hard to
even kind.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Of tell people you can't. You can't give it to them.
They gotta earn that, and not many do, not many do.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
And that's what that's what makes and that's what makes
the being the champion so special.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
And that's what and that's what I wanted.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
That was the hardest thing about the injury was whenever
I got the belt. You know, you had your your
time as champion was only ship with one other person. Yeah,
you know what I mean. So y'all have al right,
we own we own this error. Whenever people look back
in that air, they're only gonna look at two people.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. That's what I wanted
to bring back because the belts in the.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Run, the kid kept bouncing after Jones and I were
gonna just bounce and bounce and bounce and seeming like.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
And I think a lot of that also is the
fact that you're getting levels ahead of a lot of
the levels ahead of the game.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
The game is getting I'm not even gonna lie.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
I'm even nervous thinking about what what the hell these
fighters fighters are gonna lik next year?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
What the next gym gonna look like?
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Crazy?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
And you're young enough to stay, you young enough to
still be here for you feel what I'm saying. They
got a kid in the gym right now at ten,
you know what I mean, it's gonna be ready at
twe already. Look, I want dudes like this tall, like
I'm allowed to beat Jamal's ass.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
At some point, I'm gonna get Jamal DC. I was
on your ass for you.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I didn't even know, had no idea.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
And that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
That's why that's the most dangerous person, right the kid
that sees you but doesn't see you as the person
they're gonna idolize you, the person that they're gonna beat
at some point.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Respectation, It was still respecting, it was still admiration.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
But it was it comes with the comes with the question.
You you come with a challenge. Yes, you become a challenge.
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, that's what you know.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Who else felt championships the Detroit Pistons back in the day.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
But y'all, the fact that he's wearing that shirt right
now with the States today listen is crazy. You're a
real fan. I'm showing.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I'm showing, I'm showing love. You know, I just I
just mad loyalty.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
I just met Isaiah Isaiah Tomlon not that long not
that long ago. He was a great guy, great conversation,
telling Stuf to my kids everything, even signed something for
my kids.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
They be treating you good in Detroit now. I saw
you at the football game. Let me treat you good.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Detroit now is good. I'm not from.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Detroit.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
They be treating you.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
They be treating your shirt out there.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, guys, Jamal Hill challenges for the UFC Light Heavyweight
Championship again, the belt that he never lost inside the octagon.
Make sure you follow Jamal tap into everything he's doing.
Subscribe to his YouTube channel. He's doing great work over there.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
It is fun.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
It's fantastic, well spoken and very well thought of when
he's doing his YouTube videos. So make sure you guys
give my guy a subscription and go watch what he's
getting into. But also, more than anything, hit the buy
button this weekend for UFC three hundred, biggest fight card
of all time. This man may events it. Guys, Jamal,
thank you again for checking in with me.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
As always, Bro, I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Like subscribe guys, tell you friend to tell a friend
that DC's got a YouTube channel and I got friends
like this tapping in with me, and don't hey stick around.
I'm go'a throw a couple of my scores up from
that Madden game til next time.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
A peace