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January 17, 2025 • 26 mins

Merab Dvalishvili IS BACK on the Daniel Cormier check-in ahead of his massive title defense against Umar Nurmagomedov. Merab GOES IN on why he is fed up with Umar's "disrespect" ahead of this championship fight at UFC 311. Plus, don't miss Merab talk about his preparation for this fight, and why his perfect fight ends with him punching Umar's face. Arman Tsarukyan, in spite of dropping out of this fight with Islam Makhachev, also sat down with Cormier ahead of what he thought was his chance at a UFC title. #Volume #Herd

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You got a question from him especial.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
No, I just have a big respect for it.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
You want to ask me for your shirt?

Speaker 2 (00:07):
What's true?

Speaker 1 (00:08):
This guy says something about his shirt. He made this? Guys,
I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean you think
I made shirts.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
I don't know if I'll just said you made this.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
So you're just gonna believe algol. He's a liar man.
He sells alcohol. This guy sells alcohol.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
He said, you want to trust the guy that tells alcohol.
It's not your alcohol.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
No, you bad people sell alcohol.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Some people on. Some people on this alcohol to relax.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Like I'll drinks alcohol is boom, let's go, my coach,
John will drinks alcoholic is good.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
He whenever we were at your house getting ready to leave,
we give toasts. You know, twenty times, best toast of
my life. I told you, I told He told that.
We told again many many times.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
We told respect.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
We have to taking this in Georgia, and he.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Was your friend sent me, showed me a video of food.
It's like bread. Inside the bread is egg with cheese.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
It's good. So he's a good one. Very good.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
Okay, Actually I can we can make this one. In
last Vegas, No no, last time I have the pancake. Yeah,
but no, no, I said, I can this when you
come with us.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
I would make the one with the bread because he said,
you take the bread take out.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Dipping the egg with the cheese is very good.

Speaker 6 (01:32):
Very.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
He don't like eggs. He like dependence, style, dependens. There
is many styles, but he don't like with the eggs.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
You would love it. It's good, brother, this is the best.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yes, really yeah, yeah, I was talking to your friend.
He was at the house when I went to he's
got to edit your videos. Yes, thanks for checking it
with me again. Doubt fight this weekend. You have three
eleven defriends and Champish against Umar and a mega metof
it's a it's a it's an odd one. Write this one,

(02:06):
this fight because it was something that it didn't seem
like you expected it to be Umar right now?

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Why? Why? Why is that?

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Mm hmm?

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Why Because I said, after I win title against Sean Omalley,
I go Georgia, And I said, what's the nice Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
Oh it'smart yeah, TikTok oh it's yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
So when I win the belt in September, I go
straight to Georgia and uh in press conference journalist asked
me when I was willing to come back and fight again,
and who should be my next opponent.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
I said, my next opponent should be maybe.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Umar Numaga Medo. But I would like to come back
either February or March, and I will be ready. And
and womar tweet disrespect me again and he said, I
don't know. He called me so many bad words, cowed
something that, yeah, I don't even speak this much good

(03:11):
English to repeat all these bad words. And and he said,
Merab you know February fighters in Australia. He's not gonna
make us fight there. But March is Ramadan. Oh you
Daki and me, you run away from me. But I
had no idea that Ramadan was in March, because last
year Ramada was in May, and and especially it was

(03:36):
like it should be March, six months from after.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
My title win.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
And uh, and so I want to fight March, and
then I guess and then Umar book fight with songy Don.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I thought he was fighting with songy Don.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
And since Umar wasn't able to fight in March, I
can't fight next contenderly uh Vignero, Pigero, Door, Peterian or
if wants very much and uh but uh uh so
by UFC need need need me to fight in January,

(04:13):
I step up.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
I'm a company man. I said, let's go.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, let's big. And that's a big fight, right you
versus him?

Speaker 4 (04:19):
It seems Morob in most instances you don't have like
these types of interactions with your opponents. I was speaking
to Umar earlier and I said, well, why doesn't Morob
like It seems like he doesn't like you. He said, well,
ask him why he doesn't like me? He said, he said,
I don't know, but he said to me that you.

(04:42):
I said, you're very respectful in the bill, but he said,
not necessarily because it gets poor Yan. You spoke a
lot of trash about him. Yes, so why why do
you like having that chaos in a fight.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
I don't like having chaos or any any drama, you know,
like as you see with Omalley. I was, I had fun.
I was laughing and uh with Peter and yeah, he
was disrespectful. He don't even want to face off with me.

(05:14):
You don't even want to talk shake hands stuff like that,
and he was he was acting weird. And I do
have a beef because he called me zero and he
was talking trash with me with al Joe, and he
broke the rules like he you don't even know how
to fight because you know, when fighter is on the ground.

(05:35):
He thrown me, I guess my my my brother. And
this is you know, everything else he was he was
they was showing us, you know, like, uh, and yeah, Peter,
I don't like him before.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Now I'm okay.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
You know, I'm okay with him, but I don't like
this drama, you know. I mean, you know Henry S,
do you even like.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Can you even say that you dislike this guy?

Speaker 2 (05:58):
More so, I was very cool with Umar and I
it seems.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Like you guys would get along great, like just knowing both.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
So I was always cool with Umar.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
I always show him my respect and then we always
say hello and everything else. But and uh, he called
me paid champion, but I'm not paid champion.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I earned it to be champion.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
And and he he he tried disrespect me so many
times online, you know, and he even like to show
you still some clips too. He even was trying to
everything to dispect. He even say, oh, Mera will pull out,

(06:44):
I won't be surprised if Mara pull out and stuff
like this, and bro just Uh, just you don't have
UFC already give you this favor to fighting debut guys
and from debut guys fighting number two without any good contender,

(07:05):
and then because of your bid number two, they give
you a title fight and don't disrespect me, because I
don't disrespect you, then don't blame on me. If if
Joran Jorganna ask me, oh you're gonna fight, You're gonna
fight with Umargamedo, I said, I have to talk dan

(07:25):
A White first. I want to have a nice conversation
with DNA White first, because before the media always ask
DNA White some crazy questions about me, and uh, and
I wanted to, you know, have a good relationship with Danna.
And then if then I say, hey, you have to
fight Umar, of course I will say yeah, you know,
because now I'm a champion. I don't want to say

(07:45):
and who knows maybe Umar is next? And who knows
who's next? You know, because Umar pull out three times before?
And why I have to promote Umar. Umar already is
promoted and I don't have to talk about Yeah one
he can talk about me, but respectful it because I
deserve respect. And that was my problem. But and then

(08:07):
when I saw him in person. I tell him why
you disrespect me? And he say because I wanted, what
are you gonna do about it? And and press comparence.
Thirty minutes later, he said, I never disrespect you. I
never disrespect your kundry. But even I just saw another cliff.
He's saying, yeah, I did bully Merab. I did talk

(08:28):
trash about merab Bro. I don't understand when if if
you ask them, they're not talking trash.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
They are very respectful, but you know they always make
fun of it.

Speaker 6 (08:37):
You.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
They always do crazy stuff.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
You know, they're like normal like us, but in papers
and or if they asked them, all they're different, you know. Okay, No,
I respect couple of him a lot. Only only a
problem I have is too much.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
Yeah, speaking of your last couple, your last fight, his
last fight one were you were you happy with the
performance looking back on it against O'Malley and what did
you take from that fight where Umar fought Corey Sanhagen
uh and became the number one contender When you were
studying him, what did you see that you think that

(09:12):
you guys would take advantage.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Of Uh seven more time?

Speaker 4 (09:18):
Were you happy with your performance and what did you
think of his last performance against san Jagan?

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, I beat Shomali Shotamli was uh champion And was
that a hard fight? No, no hard fight. But he
has a knockout power. He can knock out everybody, you know,
anybody you know not everybody. Yeah, if he landed you,
he will knock you out. So that was risky fight

(09:44):
for sure. But we have a great, great training camp
and uh good plans and and yeah I beat him
easy way and it wasn't hard.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
I had to watch ones fight. Yeah he did, he
did good.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
I guess Cory Sagan and he beat number two guy
and then and then you know Umar is a good fighter,
well rounded. You know he can wrestling, can do grappling,
and you know he is a good try Carol. So
then yeah, that was just one good fight against a

(10:24):
ranked opponent.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
You just think that he should have fought more guys
to get to the title.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yes, yes, at least the one more like like he
was supposed to fight Songy don't and then yes we
just fight Songy, don't stay busy and uh don't pull
out and uh just prove it like the rest of us.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
You know, like we deserve it and like you know
that that that's that's that was my thing.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
How is your life changed that she became the champion?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Life? Not much.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
I'm still the same guy. I'm still living the same
house and I still have same people around me. And
uh but of course I get so much respect, so
much loud, so much support as I'm a champion, and uh,
you know, like now I am.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
How you saying I mean that?

Speaker 5 (11:13):
You guys?

Speaker 2 (11:14):
What's the call you guys? No, No, just.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Translated translate that.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
He's in world room maybe maybe like room like you
are now champion with everybody else.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah, yeah, so you're a great champion, but I'm a
champion top you know, saying so I mean the I
in the room with.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
The same category.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
You know when I went to your house after the
fight and you were running the next day, it told
me how much you live this life of a champion.
What would it mean to you to beat the guy
in umar and a mega medal that's undefeated, that is
you know, it's almost it's almost like he's the champion

(12:03):
right way people talk, it's almost like he's the champion.
What would it mean to you to stop and shut
all that up and keep your belt because ultimately it's
always about keeping the belt right.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
You're right, Uh, you make good point with that. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
I'm focus of win this fight and people will realize
again because people doured me even before fight. Uh, even
before Hanns fight, before Pearian's fight, and uh, I mean
I was underdog many times. But but all I have
to I want to just just win for my friends,

(12:44):
my team, and people will realize I.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Am under there. Yeah, I'm big under the.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Minus.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah they're gonna crazy.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Yeah, that serves motivational right. Listen, I was an underdog
fighting athlete Johnson two times. Interesting and it was really
like motivating for me to train harder and be like,
I'm gonna shut everybody up.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
I was the champion and I was the underdog.

Speaker 6 (13:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Interesting, but no, it's not. This is I don't pay
attention to this because there is so many people. They
have own opinions, and especially Umar's fans are acting crazy.
I have to block so many people every day too
because they just disrespect me. Man.

Speaker 7 (13:34):
And then.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah, I'm just focusing myself. Yeah, underdog way because I don't.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
I don't, I don't.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
I'm not focused of these people and this who makes
ads and stuff like this, because then.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
The day they don't fight exactly, you know, and then
you know not.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, so this is what's Maries. I have to show
up and I believe hard work. I was working hard,
and I I believe hard work would pays off and
I will be when a.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
What does the perfect fight look like? Morale? Like you're
just taking him down over and over? Like what is
like the perfect fight?

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Because I've seen you almost rend the guys helpless right
like you shot so many times on that it looked
like he was almost like watching the clock to see
when the time would run out so he did not
have to defend takedowns anymore. Or what like the perfect
night in with you beating him in the striking.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Perfect night would be.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Punch his face much as like a lot of punches
in the pace, damage in your head, last.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
One before I let you go. So I follow you
on Instagram. I think you're like insanely I think you're
like insanely funny. I like when you were slapping that
girl's ass, he said, he said.

Speaker 7 (14:54):
Can I touch this? I?

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, that's that's me.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
I asked, if I get permission, then I haven't.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Can I touch this. It was so funny.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
But I saw you out of the PI one time,
like you got locked out, Like you got locked out
of the PI.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
I that happened multiple times this training camp multiple times.
That was the first time when I posted, but it
happened after this.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
What is the UFC said to you about this you
have seen just like s P I like, I want
to make sure you'll separate.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Secretary to tell me, I am sorry, we love you,
but is inside we can let you in.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
I'm like, bro, I am injury. I have appointment. I
have you.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Guys like appointment times in terms of like when you
can go.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
You can usually how it is, you know, I training training.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
I finished training at Synthic at one pm, and right
after training I go to P I shall treatment, yeah yeah,
and then yeah I probably want like what's that called recovery?
Yeah yeah, and then or maybe nighttime training after. But

(16:17):
now every time, not every time, but a couple of times,
someone was there and the security I guess there was
a prey to something like fight.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah, you don't get paid to fight in v I.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, p I yeah, p I respect p I also
a lot.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
And but I was at that time, I was really
mad about and.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
So the.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Security made the right choice, but not let you. The
security actually the right thing.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, but I still I still, I was still disrespectful.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
They don't let me in. Pr Man, thank you for checking.
You are the best, guys. Rob Wats fights this weekend
at UFC three eleven.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Defensive Championship is Umar and Ameerga menof make sure you
guys follow him. Go to his YouTube channel. Everything he does,
it's phenomenal. You hit that pay per view by but
let's line this dude's pocket as the champion on pay
per view this weekend. Until next time, tell your friends
about my YouTube channel because I'm tapping into people like
the machine Morob.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Until next time, guys, than.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
The volume.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
All right, guys.

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Speaker 1 (18:58):
The last time we spoke, we made. We spoke about wrestling.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
Right, nobviously it's gonna play a big part in this fight,
as it always does when Islama fights, or when you fight,
and you started, you were specific freestyle wrestling, freestyle wrestling.
I always gave you shit about how you would say
freestyle wrestling. What makes you why do you feel that
that side of the wrestling is better for.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Mixed martial arts, to make it more well equipped for
mixed martial arts.

Speaker 9 (19:24):
Freestyle wrestling because like a sport, Yeah, the best sport,
like for the m M a fighter, because you're when
you're coming from the freestyle wrestling, you're strong, you're explosive,
you know you can wrestle. You just needed a little
bit box and likew know how to defend some some missions,

(19:45):
you know.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
How quick after your fight which also Levera, did you
know that you would get this fight.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
Right away? They told me to.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Fight in in June. Yeah, yeah, and I hurt.

Speaker 6 (20:01):
No, I had like six weeks after the fight.

Speaker 9 (20:03):
I wanted to give yourself, Yeah, I wanted to like
have a good training camp, like get ready you know well,
and and because I was number one, why I should
take take the risk, you know, and now I'm ready.

Speaker 6 (20:19):
For the fight.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Were you worried it?

Speaker 4 (20:21):
Although when like Dustin Pourier stepped in, because there's something
to beating guys, right, but there's also something to beating
a guy that's a dominant champion like Islam. Were you
a little worried, like, man, what if that moment ends
up being taken by Dustin Pourier?

Speaker 7 (20:34):
No?

Speaker 9 (20:34):
I was okay because I knew, like I'm gonna fight
next with the winner, So I was okay if it's
Dustin Dustin, if it's Islam, the same.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
You know, when you watch that fight, it felt like
people were saying Dustin did really well because he defended
takedowns and I think he cut this long right.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Did you feel like that was a competitive fighter?

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Did you feel like Mache was out ahead of him
and he, you know, getting judge a bent unfairly?

Speaker 9 (21:01):
It was competitive fight, was doesn't look good and he
caught him. He he like he did damage to him,
and just around number five, he got tired, you know,
and gave his necks.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
What can you take from that fight and apply to
your fight?

Speaker 9 (21:24):
We were a little bit different fighters. You know, he
had the different game plan. He just thought about he's
defender wrestling and strike him. But like, I'm like, I
have a different game plan. I can wrestle, you know,
I'm not just defender wrestling.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
You were able to offensively wrestle with is Yeah, how
much difference is the preparation going to be because the
last fight was on very short notice? Right, and how
were you like twenty one years old, twenty three years old,
no fight camp. How much different is this preparation appost

(21:58):
to that one? And also armand how much confidence does
it give you to know that in the first fight
you were able to find success, we able secure takedowns,
and you weren't able to train and prepare the right
way for that fight.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (22:13):
Of course, when you have a whole training camp, you
cut weight very well, you don't worry about anything. It's
just you're super confident because you did all all things
what you gotta do. So I did exactly my like diety,
you know exactly my training camp, like trainings, like follow

(22:35):
the rules that I gotta do, and that gives me
that gives me a lot of like confident, you know,
and and I know like I'm not watching the last fight,
you know, like to.

Speaker 6 (22:49):
Say, oh, I'll look at that fight.

Speaker 9 (22:52):
Yeah, I'm just a new version of Armand's circun and
I want to show a new fights.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
So you didn't even watch the first fight?

Speaker 6 (22:58):
No, I watched when like someone asks me, just I
know what happened.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
Yeah, but you don't use it as preparation, like being
in the optagon, you can learn something.

Speaker 6 (23:08):
I was completely different fight that it is not make sense.
I just I just watch.

Speaker 9 (23:12):
Where I was weak AND's a position I was bad.
I just work a lot on my wrestling and striking.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
So do you think your willingness to offensively wrestle against
him can really be what may be the difference? Because
most don't try to take Islam down. They're just so
worried about defending his takedowns that they find themselves kind
of like stuck on their back foot. Do you think
your willingness to go try to take him down is

(23:42):
gonna be what will be the difference?

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, Yeah, I.

Speaker 9 (23:44):
Want to take him down. Yeah I know I can.
I can take him down, and I'm going to look
in for that as well, And so I know my wrestling.
I can take down Olympic champion.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
You know who'd you wrestle with?

Speaker 6 (23:59):
What?

Speaker 1 (23:59):
I'm Olympic champion? Did you wrestle with?

Speaker 6 (24:02):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (24:03):
You wrestledo? Wait when?

Speaker 7 (24:05):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah? Because he was in America for a while. He
was down in Florida.

Speaker 6 (24:08):
No, no, wrestling in Russia?

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Oh in Russia. How much time did you spend with him?
He's man, he's the man. Two weeks, two weeks training
and you enjoyed it.

Speaker 6 (24:17):
Yeah, he's so smart, so strong, like yeah, I can't explain.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Like did he get you with the Yeah? Of course
outside step prods. That's so nasty. Have you seen the
Japanese kid? Oh? Yeah, have you seen that? Dude?

Speaker 9 (24:33):
Yeah, he's a future Olympic champion. He won, No, he
won the world championship, old champion, but he TechEd Vito
everybody everybody zero even tin zero Olympic but still just
snatch the arm, take the leg. Oh he's too strong,
explosive future future, there's uh wrestling.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
Yeah, what would it mean for you to become the
world champion? This weekend in Los Angeles? Don't you spend
some time here whenever you're not in training camp.

Speaker 9 (25:03):
Yeah, I have a lot of friends here. I come
here a lot, and I like this place. It's gonna
it means for me a lot, you know. It means
like everything that I've did the kids for ten years,
last ten years I've been in MMA, and I just
work on this goal all my years, you know, and

(25:26):
I want to achieve that and I want to be.

Speaker 6 (25:31):
First guy who beat Islam.

Speaker 9 (25:33):
Yeah, I mean, like since he became a champion.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
So do you think but does that mean a little
more to be the guy that has been the champion
like that?

Speaker 9 (25:42):
It's going to mean a lot because he's a poundful
pound fighter right now is the best and to beat
like this guy, like no doubt, everybody gonna say this
guy is the future of this division.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
So do you do you like the respect or do
you like having a little bit of like in a fight.

Speaker 6 (26:02):
It's better respect. Yeah, you don't think you're not angry,
you know, like you don't want.

Speaker 9 (26:07):
To go right to like killing, you know, because when
you're like too crazy, you have like crazy emotion.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
But now because that was that you with Bobby Green
in Austin last year, you guys are going crazy, you
like that.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Nah you like that, you look you like it.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
You say you trained with the guys Saint John Bosco, right,
you would go wrest with those guys and guys you
said that kid Gregor starting for Stanford right now.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Oh yeah, yeah, he's doing really good. It's good. Well,
good luck this weekend. Man, Thanks for checking in with
me as you always do.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
Guys, armand Serouki on challenges Islamahaya for the UFC Lightweight
Championship this weekend UFC three eleven. Hit the bye button,
follow armand make sure you're tapping everything this guy's doing.
Thank you all right, armand Sukian got until next time,
Like subscribe, tell you friends with my my YouTube channel.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Thank you,
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