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Guys, I'm here with the heavyweight champion in the world,
Time Aspinal. How good does that sound like? Just the
heavyweight champ, not interim nothing, just heavyweight champion.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Tom Aspinal.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Pretty good, pretty good. It's nice, I mean, not so
what we want to do in it. We want to
win the I think when you start off in the sport,
you get the gloves on, you're envisioning yourself as being
the champion of the world. Well, at least I did, Yeah,
I did. I can't speak for everybody. I know some
people just want to try it, have a fight or whatever.
But for me, I wanted to be there the best.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
When you when you won the interim title. You can
tell how much I admit to you, right.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
But yeah, but I don't know. For me, it wasn't
so much the interim title. I mean, obviously that's a
that's a big achievement in itself. It was the fact
that I wasn't ready for that fight. I was fighting.
Just got the coffees. Yeah, I was fighting, so thank
you very much. I was fighting Sergey Pavlovitch, who was
knocking everybody out at the time he was. And usually
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when I'm I'm like very regimented with my training, with
my lifestyle, everything's like geared toward you know. You know,
it's like everything for the last ten weeks plus of
my life has been geared towards Saturday night. Whereas with
that fight in particular, I was not in shape.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
You just knew you had to get him out of it.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I just start to get him out of there.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
That was worked out, and then you you beat Courti's
blaze and you just wait, right, You've had to win
so long. Like I know, I don't want to talk
about why you're waiting, right, We're past all that.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
But the time off, like, could you look.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Back on it now and see any positive and just
kind of refreshing yourself, having a clear mind to just
truly get ready for the challenge ahead of you now,
But most times you don't get time right, so when
you do get it, you got to kind of appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
No, I appreciate I've got a lot better in the
ear off, Yeause when you're training for a fight, you're
training basically to get your body ready for that fight.
You're training for one guy. Whereas I was like training
just to I was in the gym every day, twice
a day. I was in the gym just improving, getting better,
working on things, and our teammates fighting, I was helping
them out and stuff. So it was nice to to
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not put my body through that all the time. But
I've improved a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I think, how how how frequently frequently would you like
to fight?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Now? Though, considering Rob's about to fight for the fourth
time Robins depending his time up for a fourth time
this year, that's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
What's the maximum you fought in a year? How many times?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Three? Max? I wonder?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I thought Gusterson Jones and Rumble Johnson, and I was like, yeah,
I need nine months off.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think three. Three's good. Three's good,
I think, yeah, yeah, three's perfect.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
So you're fighting Cyril Gun this weekend.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Heavyweight champions, finally, finally, every you know, it was crazy
chill Chill and I were.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Messy, right, So we like to like start ship, but
we do TV, that's what we do.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
But I said, if I'm tom Ask, no, I'm not
fighting him, because that was the time where you were
like in the crowd waiting to fight him, and he
kind of was like, I'm not really doing that. Did
you ever think, like, you know, maybe I should make
this dude, wait, go fight somebody else, you know, cause
you're the man now.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
It's crazy out of the shoe was on the other foot, right,
but you.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Right, yeah, I didn't exactly get given a choice, so.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Oh it was only options.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Well, who else is this to fight? I already beat
Volkov in the first round, Yeah, I made it. Was
already matched with Volkov. They didn't to do to be honest. Yeah,
so cyril Gun is a new one contend Also Volca
was coming up a lost to Goun. Yeah, al Mada
just false. Spivoky's way down in the ronkis.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yep, and then I may have got beat by Blades yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, so it looks a little bit weird. So the
only guy that they offered me was was gone so
obviously I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
So you're fighting Cyril right, big time fight. It's I
just saw something you said. You think it's weird how
people are riding off Cyril gun And for me that
was awesome to see because when I look at the
fight right, I see a guy that can actually move
with you. I see a guy that's been in there
with power threats before Francis and Ghanu, Derek Lewis, so
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many others. I also see a guy that's been five rounds.
Because of all those things. When you're breaking down the fight,
it would everything would.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Say it should be competitive. Wild. Are people just saying
he can't go with you?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
These media people are crazy, anty you don't think like
people people getting narrative and just run with it. It's crazy,
But listen, I I think something that I don't get
much credit for is I think a lot of people
see my style, they see I move fast, they say
I've got power and stuff, and they think he's just
a big, strong, athletic guy. My fight IQ is really
really high, and I don't think I get a lot
of credit for it. So I know if what I'm
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looking at is good or not good. And I know
that Sgan's good.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
He's very good.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
He's really good. And I think the fact that he
won his fight against Volkov.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
But did you think he lost?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I did think he lost the fight.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
So many people thought he lost the fight.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I did. I'm not a judge, though, so maybe there's
some things that judges can see that I don't see.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
But did you see last weekend? Did you watch? No,
that's horrible.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Maybe maybe messing up the decisions constantly. Or did you
see what happened with the referee one dude? I hit
low in the nuts? Oh?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Tom, he should have saw it.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Tom. Uh. What's the big guy's name? The big he's
one of the big, the best referees in the game.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Don mg Dan murgleta bro.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Dan Murgleiotta is watching a fight. A guy gets dropped.
He's beating I don't know who was he's beating him.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Murgleiotta stops the fight with three seconds left in the round.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
The guy celebrates, runs.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
This corner, things to fight over, and Dan goes, we're
still fighting.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I thought I heard the whistle. Yeah, I swear to god, Bro,
and that happened.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
So you can't really get if a decision is closed
even questionable when stuff like that still happens inside the octagon,
you know, so like I get it the frustration, but
he's the guy that earns the title fight, so people
should not be looking at it. And also it's the
John jonesting. I think they that vision, right, biggest moment
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of his career. They saw him get submitted in that way.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, I mean it was quick. I think when you
lose lot that he kind of sticks around. But listen
about Cyril's really good.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
It's like sometimes you show up and you just don't
have a good night, and I think that was one
of those nights for him. For what reason, maybe John
Jones is the best ever. Maybe he was feeling sick
that day. You know, there's some stuff that can go
on that we don't know about. But for whatever reason,
that night in particular, he wasn't very good. Does that
mean he's not very good overall? No, see, Ground's really
really good and I've prepared for him accordingly.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
And that was refreshing to hear you say that, because
not people are trying to spend a completely different narrative,
do you expect him to be a little bit more
engaging being that is gonna be probably his last opportunity
at a heavyweight title fight. Right, he faught for the
interim title and he fall for the unsputed title twice.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
This could be his last chance?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Or do you expect that same point and kind of
point fighting type of fight early to try to drag
it into the later rounds.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I think I've got him at his best because he's
never He's got a few things now that he's gonna
be better than before. He's been through those big fights.
He's got them losses, no doubt, He's learned from them losses.
He's got the experience, he knows what it's like to
fight under pressure. And this is last chance. Man, He's
not gonna get a fourth go like this is his Oh,
so I'm expecting the best version of him. If he's
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more engaging from a technical standpoint, that evens the odds
up a lot more on my part. So I wouldn't
if I was him, I wouldn't. I wouldn't force the engagement.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Because you said, if you hit somebody square in their face,
they're gonna fall. Yeah, you believe in your power like that? Yes,
you know, Uh, I see a great fight. I think
it's gonna be a tremendous fight. I was surprised at
how easily you went through courtious Blades, Like, were you.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Surprised at all? Like? Yeah, because the first fight, right,
you guys were you were?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
You respected him more the first time because you were
kind of staying back a little bit. That second time
you just went through. I'm like, what made you just
attack him in that way?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
You know what? It's really weird. I'm sure you can
relate to this because it's probably happened to you. Every
time I knock somebody out. I just can't believe that
I've knocked him out. And I'm like, oh, you fell
over with that, like fro night you fell over? So weird. Yeah,
I just I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
That's what.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
It's not that I believe in my and I'm like,
you know, stick in my chest out and be like, oh,
I'm the strongest punch for ever. It's that I have
proof of the year I hit somebody, Like statistics have
told me that if I hit somebody, they're gonna go over.
So uh like the last fight with Blades, Uh, Poloitch
is the same, Spitbock's the same guys like that, Like
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I I've hit him and have been like, oh, like
you're unconscious. Yeah, I can't believe it.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, is this the right time to fight tom Aspinall?
I kind of liking it to this right this is
my this is my chart. Francison Guan who could not
fight twenty five minutes until he went and fort Steve A.
Miolchis for twenty five minutes and he exhausted himself. Then
he was able to fight twenty five minutes. We don't
know what twenty five minutes with Tom Aspinall looks like.
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So the unknown should give guys confidence that right now
is the time to fight you in that long fight.
John Jones, I think he made a huge mistake by
not fighting you now, because what if you go twenty
five minutes and you still win, but you unders in
that fatigue because it is a different fatigue. Once you
do it once still, it'll become like, yes, right now
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the time to be fighting tom Asparnau before you get
that experience.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
It's a it's a great outlook. I think I like
I like it.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
But that's what even people say, would you have what
time I go now? I would have.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Because I don't know what he would look like later
when you know what he looks like later.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
No, well, I know what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
But on the flip side of that, as someone myself
who watches a lot of footage, like for example, Cyril Gan,
there's rounds and rounds and rounds where you can watch him,
see what his patterns are, see what you see, what
he's good at and not good at. With me eighty
percent of that plus you can't see. You don't know
what I do. No one's got any idea. No, everyone's
got this assumption that I trained for two minute fights
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like that is so far from the truth that it's unbelievable.
So there's this notion again in the media where people
are like, if Tom goes past two minutes, Cyril wins. Yeah,
but that's insane, But that's what people say every time.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You could never think that a heavyweight champion is gonna
get tired and around.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
But that's what people think. So if people do think that,
that's fantastic for me.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
So what does round two, three, four, and five look
like this weekend?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Do you, as a guy that starts fast and that
can finish fights if it starts to turn a little
bit to where he's like lasting, do you kind of
pull back and go, Okay, leave something in the tank,
because I think that's the difference in fighting twenty five minutes.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I did it nine times.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, it's like you can't fight as hard for as
long unless you're morob.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Well, he's insane.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
He's insane, right, He's like, not everybody else can do that.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Umm.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I never stopped, honestly promise you now, I never I'm
going full speed in my fights. Never you're I'm always thinking.
My dad says something to me, last thing he says,
just move around, just enjoy it, just take your time,
And that's what I do every single time. I'm not
going full speed, that's all. I'm far from it. So
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every time I'm thinking, you know, I gotta hold some
back because we're gonna go five rounds. Like I've got
that in my mind all the time. So we'll find out.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I don't know, I man, I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Listen, this is supposed to be the hardest fight of
your career. But if it isn't, holy shit, are you
prepared for what your life will look like after Saturday?
If it isn't, Because by all accounts, this should be
the hard one.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
But if you wipe this dude out.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I mean, you're you're they're gonna put a rocket ship
on your back and send you to the moon.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Seriously, I don't know, I've not really thought that far ahead.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Everybody wants a heavyweight Everybody wants the heavyweight champion to
be like Mike Tyson was, and that's the type of
air you would start to live in if you go
through this fight in that way.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Good.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Well, well, let's say, let's say on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I never uh, I never predict what's gonna happen after
my fight. So we'll find out on Sunday. When Sunday
morning rocks around.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
We'll see you be making a lot of If you
get through this from clean and impressive.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
You're gonna make a boatload of money. You're gonna start
loading me money.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You're gonna start loading me money at this point, if
he continues to do what he does.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
About five jobs about.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Rather doing all right, I ain't gonna say too much, guys.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Tom Aspinall defends is UFC Heavyweight Championship this weekend against
Cyril Gun in the main event of u SC three
twenty one.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
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like Tom aspinall checking in with me. Hey Tom, Also,
hey man, thanks for giving me problems about the fight,
even though you're kind of just kind of polishing me
off when you go, oh, DC would have been a
problem if we fall over.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
You told you years ago.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I know you did, but still to say it, you're
just kind of polishing me up, and I'm like, every
now and again, somebody gotta give the big boy some love,
you know.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Thank you? Yeah, I think you might have beat me up.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
No, I would. Hey, let me tell you something.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I'd have been shooting from halfway across the octagon the
moment they just said fight.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Guys, make sure you watch Time this weekend. Until next time. Peace,