April 8, 2024 • 59 mins
Klay Thompson joins ‘The Draymond Green Show’ to discuss being drafted to the Golden State Warriors, how Mark Jackson gave Klay, Steph Curry, and Draymond confidence, being compared to Ray Allen and Reggie Miller, a pre-draft workout with the New York Knicks, and Steve Kerr taking the Warriors to the next level. Klay & Dray also discuss how Klay feels when Dray gets ejected or suspended, Klay’s upcoming NBA free agency, when he decided to get a boat, his admiration for Steph’s shooting ability, President Barack Obama’s comments to him at the White House, whether or not the Thompson family is the best NBA family, and much more.
00:00 - Start
02:00 - Drafted by Warriors
10:00 - Mark Jackson
17:00 - Steve Kerr
25:00 - Dray’s ejections
32:00 - Free Agency
38:00 - Sea Captain Klay
49:00 - Steph Curry
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Speaker 6 (01:39):
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show.
We got them this next guest, I'm honored to have.
It's been a long time coming. Sometimes hard to pin
the Sea Captain down, but nonetheless let me get into
this intro. As I said, we got to see Captain
join it today. Draft about it with the eleven picked
(02:00):
by the Golden State Warriors.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
In twenty eleven.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Four time NBA Champion, five time NBA All Star, two
time All NBA thirteen NBA All Defensive Second Team, which
is I love? That was a big one. That was
a big one right there. Also twenty sixteen Olympic gold medalist,
none other than my brother, the one and only Klay Thompson.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
What's up.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Well, it's good to be back.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
Well, it's great to have you on the show for
y'all out there. We have been trying to put this
together now for about a year. But you know, I've
played with Clayton now for twelve years, and I know, like,
you don't overly bother Clay. So I just been kind
of like throwing the jab every now and they're like, yo,
we gotta do the pot. And then Clay committed, and
(02:49):
then he decommitted, and then he committed again and.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
We're here, so I appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah, no problem, man.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Let's let's get into it. Though.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
You know, I always always say, you know, I get
questions most about you and stuff, what stuff like, what's
Clay like?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And the reality is is.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
People don't think you talk really, So I'm I'm super
excited to get you on the pod and see if
I can get you to talk a little more than
these people think you talk.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Well, I just talk as much as I have to.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
First off, just just getting right into it, man, What
was it like getting drafted by the Golden State Warriors?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
But growing you grew up as a lifelong Laker fan.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
Dad played for the Lakers, grew up as a Laker fan,
and then you get drafted by the Golden State Warriors.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
What was that like? Did your dad kind.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
Of needle you a bit when that happened about going
to a losing franchise?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I know how competitive y'all are.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, Well, I was actually a Blazer fan and a
Laker fans simultaneously because my dad played for both teams
and great success with both franchises. So very conflicting because
the Lakers stood at everybody's way, but growing up in Portland,
Blazers were everything.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Rose Garden was everything.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And what it was like being drafted by Golden State
it was a dream really because moving to SoCal and
going to high school down there and knowing I'd be
close to my family and I was still in California,
I was on the West Coast. It was Yeah, it
was a dream really.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
It was as close to home as you could really get.
And uh, all my expectations that have been exceeded in
my time here. Uh just you know, listing off those
accolades you did made me realize how blessed I am.
Especially Yeah, growing up watching a lot of NBA and
(04:52):
it's Yeah, exceeded everything I ever thought would become of
being a Warrior.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
When you when you first got drafted to the Warriors
and twenty eleven, Steph is starting his third year, but
at the time dealing with ankle injuries and the whole
nine being questioned on if he'll actually pan out and.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
All of those things.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
When you get drafted to the Warriors that year, what's
your thought of Steph Curry?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
You don't know much about him.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
You're excited or you don't even know to get to
excitement or get excited because you don't know so much
about him at the time.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
What was your understanding Steph at that time?
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Well, Steph was already a superstar in my eyes because
I was a big college basketball fan, and the tournament
run he had in two thousand and I think eight
or nine was so special, and that's when I think
he really elevated himself to having a national following. And
I was one of those followers. So I was already
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very familiar with his game and just did on top
of the I mean, I almost had a chance of
playing in college and then I t my freshman year.
We lost to Saint Mary's, who then played Davidson the
second round. So that yeah, that's been a very cool experience.
But it didn't happen, so it's all good.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah, that's been cool.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Know who was who.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Earlier in your career and I'm taking you back, who,
if any, was a vet for you that took you
under their wing that you look back on because and
the reason I asked that question is this, And we'll
get into that a little later, but I see what
you're now doing for the young fellas on our team, Uh, sacrificing, teaching,
(06:43):
instilling confidence. Who was the vet for you when you
first came in the league that kind of took you
under their wing?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
If any?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Oh yeah, my rookie year, I would say Darrell drell
Wright was was great. I mean Darrell had the record
for most three pointers made in a Warrior season at
the time. And he was from southern California as well,
and we said a lot of common you know, big
lanky wings who loved to shoot the three ball.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
He enjoys baseball just like I do. So d Wright
was a great vet to me.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
He would take me out to dinner, he would look
after me and just teach me what the NBA life
was like, So d Wright was great. I mean, David
Lee was a great VET. D Lee was like a
superstar my eyes, because I'm a rookie and he's already
an All Star, one of the best players on the
Knicks team, double double machine. So I looked up to
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those two guys just being them, so establishing their careers.
And I mean Monte was great as well. Mante I
just always admired his talent. You know, I was to
be able to average twenty five plus in the NBA.
I really was enamored by that.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
I aspire to do that.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So I always watched Mante closely, just how he you know,
acted in practice or what his game day rituals were.
And then my second year, I thought, or third year,
I thought Jermaine O'Neil was a great VET. Jermaine I
grew up in Portland, so I knew him from his
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rookie year and on. He was straight out of high school,
and jo was just even beyond basketball. He was the
first player to really teach me about business and entrepreneurship,
and he was talking that off the court, investing long
before it was ever mainstream and popular amongst players.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
These days, and jo was really.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Opened my mind when I to so many new things.
And that's why so much respect for Jail because he
didn't go to university and he still became am an incredible,
incredibly savvy business person and he kept learning and educating himself.
(09:06):
And that's the type of leader I love to be around.
And so I give Jail a ton of credit for
talking about things outside of hoop that really expanded my horizons.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
You spoke with Monte, and obviously Monte was was traded away,
your second year, first first year, first year in the league.
Monte gets traded away. That's all this almost in a
sense kind of thrusting you and Steph ahead right away. Yeah.
(09:39):
Did you feel any added pressure or anything of that
nature when when Monte was traded away or did that
more so fall onto Steph at that time?
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I do remember when Mante was traded. I give Mante
a ton of credit because you know, he could have
not given paid me no mind, and you know, he's
established the best player on our team. He's established playing
in the same position they drafted two guard in the lottery.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
He could have had a.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Bad attitude about it, but he was a great vet
in that sense and always looked out for US rookies.
But when he got traded, I did. I didn't feel
the pressure, but I knew that I had an opportunity
and I'll never forget. You know, after he did get traded,
we were playing the Kings at Arco Arena and Steph
(10:32):
might have been out that night, but he did come
up to me pregame and gave me a really good
pep talk, like, look, this is your time to seize
this moment and be yourself because it's right there for
you to take. And that meant a lot to me.
He went out his way to tell me that, especially
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as a twenty one year old rookie, and Steph Curry's
telling me that I could be the future too guard
of this team that is stilled a ton of confidence
in me. I think I went six for nineteen that night,
but we got the w and but then I had
a great run after that, and that's because you know,
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the team gave me so much confidence making those moves
to allow me to kind of fail my rookie year
and play through mistakes, and that experience did so much
for me being able to play thirty five minutes against
the Celtics or the Lakers, and against guys that I
grew up idolizing. So my rookie year was one of
the best times of my life.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
Really, Mark Jackson said very early on, I'll never forget
it because I remember everybody saying, like, Yo, he's crazy,
what is he talking about? Blah blah blah. He said
very early on a couple of things. He said, I
got the two baddest shooters on the planet. I got
the baddest backcourt in the game, best backcourt ever. And
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when he said that early on, everybody's like, ah, what's
wrong with what is he talking about?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
What does he see? And yeah, you guys go on to.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
Completely change the way the game of basketball is played,
like completely. But at that time, when Mark Jackson goes
on live television, national television to.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Say that.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
What did that do for you or what did it
do to you? How did you feel about it?
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Well, I knew Steph was in that realm at the time.
I did not know if I was there yet I
knew I could be. What's funny is.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
When I was really active on Twitter back then, I
put my bio even before I ever played an NBA game,
I put I'm chasing Ray Allen as far as trying
to break that record or whatever, right, so to kind
of follow that mold of being a Ray Allen Reggie
Miller type player. And then for Mark to say those
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things and him not even budge about it, when you
know the experts and analysis were dogging him for it
gave me so much confidence. And Mark isn't just going
to gas you up like that. He's seeing the best
ever play he's played against, the best ever played. So
when someone like Mark Jackson says that, it did so
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much for me, especially eternally, and I'll never forget another
time when this one knew I had another chance to
be special or do some cool things. Was Donnie Walsh
for the Knicks. I worked out for the Knicks, and
I had a good workout. I was like twenty two
or twenty five in spot shooting, and then Donnie comes
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up to me and he's like, Clay, you remind me
so much of Reggie Miller. And when he said that,
I was like, man, that's really cool because I watched
so much of Reggie's film as him just coming off
flopy action pinned downs, his game winning highlight reel shots.
So those two instances as far as just give me
confidence from Mark to Donnie Walsh, I knew if I
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kept working that despite what the naysayers say, I would
be able to do some really cool things in this league.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
What do you think about like and no one speaking
of that, think the confidence that Mark Jackson, coach Mark
Jackson instilled in you. And I always speak about that,
like I think back to those days and like, if
there was one thing that he did, is he, like
Mark would put confidence on the plate and just hand
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it to you like he That's what he did, Like
he could give you confidence, like I think that was
one in strong suits. And then you look he was
a point guard. It's in a sense of what point
guards do. They make you feel good, They get you
the ball in your spots and all those things. And
Mark had that ability as good as anyone I've ever seen.
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I think he was absolutely special in that department. And
saying that, when you look at all of these teams
around NBA young teams in particular, like we were when
Mark instilled that confidence.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Coach Jackson, I call him, but we're speaking on.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Here, and Mark instill in the confidence that he did,
and you look at all of these young teams around
the NBA who can't get a win, suck year in
and year out, and knowing and understanding the confidence that
he gave us at that point when the Warriors is
coming off winning twenty three games in the season, what
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do you make of none of those teams hiring them
knowing what he did for us at that point in
our careers.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Yeah, it's strange.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
It just doesn't add up because without Mark, there's no
foundation for what was to come, especially defensively. I mean,
we had the top rated defense in consecutive years with Mark,
and then for him to you know, let Steph and
I shoot the shots we would shoot. That was kind
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of taboo back then. But now I'm watching all levels
of basketball and you're seeing dribble packages, step backs, transition threes,
You're seeing crazy pulls from all levels, which is great.
It's the evolution of the game. But if it wasn't
for Mark, this would never have happened. So it does.
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It does not make very much sense how he has
not had another shot to lead a franchise, But I
hope he really does because he man, he was great
and those were really special memories for not only me,
but when you were young, and Steph and all the
guys we play with can't freaking hb fest.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
We were a young team.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
And without that kind of false bravado that Mark provided,
we would never believe we could beat Tim Duncan led
Spurs or go to Denver and win a playoff series
being twenty three years old. Twenty two, Yeah, some young
twenty year olds. So I'm I don't know why that
hasn't happened. But Mark was great, and I really think
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he should get another shot because he was such a
joy to play for, and he was such an incredible
motivator and I just love picking his brain about the
times he faced Michael or what was like running the
pick and roll Patrick Ewing and I grew up playing
NBA jam and watching so much Soop, so it was
really cool just to you know, learn from him.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
I second that I always talk about just the confidence
that he instilled in us, especially in you two guys
like you said at the shots that they'd allow y'all
to take, like it started the transition in basketball of
what we see today, no question.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
And then take you far back again.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
I remember Steve first coming in and Steve is implementing
his offense, and we're going through training camp and he's
like Clayton, swing the ball, Steph, swing the ball, move.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
The ball, and like every time we come down the court,
he's just like moving, move and move it. And I
remember asking.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Him, Yo, Stephan clay like they get the shots here,
how are they going to get these shots and him saying,
the ball will find who the ball.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Is supposed to find. But we're going to move the ball.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
We're going to be a ball moving team with Steve
coming in to implement his office, and it's just ball movement,
ball movement, And originally we don't quite understand which is
out the like oh man, Like I remember the grunts
and like everybody's like, yo, this is trash. Like he
just keep telling us to pass the ball, Like I mean,
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like I remember that that happens Steve's implemented his new
At that time, what are you thinking, Are you at
all worried that you won't have the same freedom, that
you won't get the same shots At that time, what
are you thinking with coach kirkr coming in and none
of us could even see like remotely close to the
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vision that he had our offense.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Well, I didn't know Steve Kurt the Blazer because I
was a Blazer fan, so you know, knockdown shooter, I think,
all time leader in three point field goal percentage. So
being a young gunner, I knew he was going to
utilize my skill and appreciate my skill of being a
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perimeter player. And I'll never forget Steve first week of
training camp. One of his biggest emphasis was last year
we were the last team in passes may per game,
and then that year in twenty fifteen, we were with
a team with the most passes may per game, and
I think that just unlocked a whole new dimension of
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basketball I never really seen before as far as the
shooting and the athleticism combined. What we had it was
special and I think it kind of blitz the NBA
by storm just with the small ball and the pace
and the space. It was an incredible time to be
a Warrior. So I do give Steve a ton of credit.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
He didn't He would.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Always give coach Jackson credit, especially for laying the foundation.
But he just did a few tweaks and a little
couple modifications to the offensive system that just did wonders
from my game and obviously Steph, but it did so
much for me as far as just being an off
ball cutter and a mover and a floor spacer that
I've kind of still played in that same role now
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and it's kind of just it's been good to me.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
Absolutely, No, I think, uh, you know what, Like I said,
what it did was it Not only did it was
at the beginning of a dynasty that we we we've
all taken part in creating and building, but it was
the beginning of the way basketball is played. Yeah, and
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that to me, like I always look back on that
and like I always say, like I had the opportunity
to play with in my mind, the greatest team ever
as symbol. And one of the reasons I feel that
way is, yes, we were dominant, Yes we won championships,
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all that way, all that was great, but it changed
the way the game was played in around the world.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
You gotta you gotta give yourself credit to Dre. I
mean there's not Steve came in, you know, to allow
you to bring the ball off the rim, have me
and Steph flyoff picks. The traditional power forward was I
just remember that year, like the typical power forward is
not able to stay in front of you, and they're
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not used to like you gotta pick this guy up
at half court, and then we got to guard the
ball screen the dho it's just so dynamic, and then
you hit the lob threat, there's the backside shooter and
just kind of so without you, the whole thing would
never have worked, and it kind of just unlocked a
whole new way to a positionally style of basketball, which
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is I think the most fun to be a part of.
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always say, like, man, the match couldn't have been better
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made in Heaven with my with my skill set and
what I excel at, what I love to do on
the basketball court.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I don't care to shoot the basketball like I will shoot.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
I'll take the shot if it's there, But like my
whole life, I've never really cared to shoot.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
And I've spent many years of my life as a scorer.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
I have the ability, but it never like I never
got off on shooting the basketball. I always felt better
getting an assist, and we know that you are the
total opposite that you must try to get the.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Buckets, but I'll pass.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
But I always said, like the pieces couldn't have fit
better together, and your skill set my clays, I mean
Stephs skill set and my skill set, but not only
the skill sets are meters could have never fit better together.
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Like I am more outspoken, I'm more in your face.
You're more like, this is what I'm doing. Follow me here.
If I get pissed off, I'm gonna let you guys know,
because ultimately I want to win. Steph is more lead
by example. I'll speak up, and you know, as it's
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he's grown, both of you guys speak up more and more.
But I'm not gonna be in your face about it.
And and what it did is you know, Bob always
will say, man, it's incredible that you guys still sit
together like But I think one of the biggest components
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to that is because we were so different than those aspects.
It created a larger appreciation for each other, a space
where or we never bump ass because I'm not in
your lane, You're not in steph lane, He's not in
my lane. So there's never like any situation where there's
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a bumpheads and like there's never any pressure for you
to be me, for me to be Steph, for Steph
to act like you, like it's all no. I know
who you is, you know who Steph is, he know
who I am, and vice versa, and with that there's
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an appreciation for that, and that to me is what
I feel like has been more.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Special of this whole Agree.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
I agree. You look at teams where it's like so
much time together it's just ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Like y'all, y'all too.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
In particular, I've seen you too, more than anybody I've
seen in my life in the past twelve years. Yeah,
you know, with the time that we've spend together, the
success that we've at and it's been an absolutely incredible journey.
I'm going to ask you a question that it's not
on it's not on any of this, but i want
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to ask you this question, and I want to ask
it because I'm afraid of the answer, and I've never
asked the question. There'd be two people I've asked the
question too, in particular, and it'd be you and step
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not really anyone else. But I'm very afraid of the answer.
But be brutally honest with you. When I get ejected
or something of that nature or suspended, what do you feel,
how do you feel?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
What like? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 6 (27:57):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (27:58):
When dre well, please.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Be brutally honest with me. It's going to crush me,
but I need to hear it.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Well.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I mean, it's it happens. I mean, you know, Andre,
you're kind of a kind of a throwback player. Not
a lot of you know, not a lot of guys.
I mean, the the NBA is very different than it was, say,
twenty years ago, thirty forty years ago, where back then
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it felt like a nightly thing, where it was just
so physical. Now in the twenty twenties, times have changed.
We see each other so much. The basketball world is small,
from the grassroots level through college all the way to
pro kind of know everybody, and I know, I always
know your intentions are good. You're one of the greatest
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winners in the history of basketball at every level, So
that trumps any statistical output you could ever have, whatever,
triple double, whatever record. The one that means the most
of me is that winning percentage playoffs regular season, one
of the greatest winning percentages of NBA history. So when
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you're not out there, it's like a piece of us
is gone. And me and Steph are really nice guys,
like probably too nice, you know, and we could never
be ourselves and have the freedom that we do on
the court without you. So when you're not out there,
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it's kind of like a huge kinking on armor. And
I know the other team is very happy you're not
out there. I just know that for a fact. They're like,
they can they relax a little bit, they let their
hair down, they they feel a little bit more like
they pump their chest up a little more because you know,
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our muscle's gone on. Enforcer, the guy, the heartbeat of
our team is not out there, and so it does hurt.
But at the end of the day, we've been through
so many battles, reached the mountaintop, been down the mountain,
had to climb back up, got there again, and now
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we have another real shot at this and it's been
like a couple of tough years, but still we're still fighting.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
We're still we're still in the mix. So it does hurt.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
It could be disappointing in the moment, but it will
never take away from what's ahead of us and what
we've done.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
So at the end of the day, we just need you.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
And that that that like disappointment and that feeling of
just like shaking your head, that just comes from dang, man,
we can't do this without you. So we uh, we
love you and we need you so badly, and these
young guys need you too, because Steph and I are
we're leaders, but we don't talk the game like you do.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
We don't inspire these young guys like you do.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
And even when Kenny calls on you in film and
there's there's gonna be a void there always if you're
not out there, and we're not the Warriors without Money Green.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
That's just a fact that you can ask.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Anybody in the Bay around the world who's followed this team.
We would not be the does without you. So that's
where that like like dang not again, that's where that
comes from. And just like, man, it's just hard to
start to do it without you.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Bro. I appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
Man. Oh that took a lot from me. Yeah, but
I appreciate that. And you know, I think for me,
like you know, you go through these moments, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
And I don't think this would be that big a deal,
say like four or five years ago. But there's just
such a magnifying glass in our team nowadays. I mean,
I think we're the highest value basketball team in the world.
So with that comes credible media coverage, sensational.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
At times, and.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
When you're a Hall of Fame player like yourself, people
are gonna love to tear you down.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
You know, that's gonna.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
I've seen that in every generation of basketball, whether it
be Dennis Robmin, my favorite player, Rashid Wallace, you, the
media and fans, the pundits, they just love to point
the finger, especially when you're at your weakest. So can't
we just can't let that to tear us from what
we got to do, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Rather than that, That's where I'm at with it obviously.
Like I said, I.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
I think for me personally, when these things happen, like
the thing that I think about the most is you
and Steph. It's like, fuck, I can't help those guys,
Like I can't be out there with them, like that's
all I care to do, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
It's like be out there with you guys.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
Set screens, defend, find you guys like with great passes
to get you all shots, but more importantly just be
out there with my brothers, like competing with the guys
that I've competed with my entire NBING career for the
last twelve years, one championships with And I'm a work
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in progress and work continuing to working to better myself.
But I appreciate you and stuff, you know, for always
sticking with me, being right by my side no matter what.
That brotherhood I don't take for granted at all. And
speaking of which myself, you have a free agency coming
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up this summer, and you know, and speaking of plan
with you know you for the last twelve years, with
Steff for the last twelve years and what we've built here.
Things change, you know, the NBA changes, cap situations changed,
this thing changed, that thing change. As you go into
free agency this summer, what's a priority to you as
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you look at you know, the next three, four or
five whatever you decide you want to play, as you
look at kind of the last segment of your career,
if you will, what's important to you as you embark
up on that.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I just can't believe it's here. Like when you're in
your mid twenties, it's so crazy. You think you're going
to play forever, really, and you think you just maintain
that athletic level that seems effortless, But then as time
goes on, you really do realize how demanding this job
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really is, and it's so physically demanding. And I was
actually struggling with that a lot at the beginning of
this year because of the unknown, you know, I mean,
I might have led contract situations or playing time or
using making up a lot of excuses rather than just.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Appreciating what is in front of me.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
And it took me and Steve like four real heart
to heart talks to finally break my shell, being like,
you know what, I gotta have fun this year. I
deserve to have fun, Like we worked so hard to
freaking win these games and play into June and.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Have fans on the road. I mean, my first couple
of years, there might be a few staff Curry jerseys
in the crowd. Now it's like a whole contingent in
the Warrior fans on the road. It's insane. So I
was kind of grappling with that a lot this year.
It's almost like your own own mortality is an athlete
like man, I might not be able to elevate like
I once did, or I might not slide my feet
left and right like I once did. But I can
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still be a heck of a player if I just
give gratitude and keep that perspective, like I'm out here balling,
because that was hard for me these last few years,
when you're when you go through injuries and you're so
used to playing at a certain level, guarding a certain guy,
shooting certain shots, and.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Then you have to adjust all of that. That was
the hardest part of my career. And it's still hard
for me, you know, when I'm used to scoring twenty
five in a quarter, locking.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Up the best player.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Now I gotta be pick my spots a lot more,
just precisely, which is fine. I've finally come to accept, like, look,
I can still be a heck of a player. I
can still be incredibly efficient and as long as I'm
having fun and being a good tea. And you actually
helped me a tone when you're like, lean into these
young guys, lean into the fact you're a vet, you
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made X amount of money, you don't have to worry
about nothing, Like you're playing for the love of the game.
And I think once I realized that, and I relaxed
a little bit, rather than trying to play for a
contract or an All Star not or some accolades, but
rather just play for the love of the game and
the fact they get to play cards with the guys
on the plane. We're playing ping pong last night after
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the game. We're having fun. That's the beauty of the
game right there. Not trying to get another Max deal
or another endorsement, but just smelling the roses and appreciating
all the work took to get here and saying that
when it comes to free agency in July, I just
got to keep that in mind, like, yes, I want
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to resign with the Doves, but I also have to
prioritize my mental health and you know, lay out what
is important to me at this point in my career.
And I know we have so much basketball ahead that
I haven't given it much thought, really, because if I
start thinking about July first, then I'm just doing myself disservice.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
I'm not here.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
I'm not thinking about the Horns tomorrow and these muscling
games this weekend. So for me, it's just about staying present,
as simple as that is. Stay in present and appreciating
being the NBA because my uncle Andy always told me,
is like Clay, your careers can go by and snap
of fingers. So just appreciate this life you live. It's
not a right, it's.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Really a privilege.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
And you know, Uncle Lenny, he been around the game
since the last Dance, so that helped me a lot
as well.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
Absolutely, in twenty nineteen, if you don't get hurt, do
you approach your free agency, your whole free agency process
differently at that point.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
That's a big one. If that's a wow, Yeah, that was.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
That could have been a definite possibility just because you're healthy.
But at the same time too, if I don't get hurt,
and let's say we do win a we do three pete,
it's like you're not walking away from that par You're
not going to that hasn't been done since Shaq and Kobe.
So I never would have walked away from a chance
to stacking rings And uh man, that was a crazy time.
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That was the worst, man, You freaking you know how
long it is to play the old the finals. It's
such a long grind and then like tear a ligament
and then you got to go right back to the gym.
There was no vacation, So that was a I was
very grateful for my family during that time because I
was just kind of lost without basketball and you know,
being on crutches and just having to build all that
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muscle back in my quad and the atrophy.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
That was not fun. Especially after that five year Finals run.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
We had a lot of It's a lot of just
mental and physical wear and tear. And I don't think,
when I really think about it, if I was healthy
and I don't think I would have really tested it
that hard, just because like it's hard to walk away
from a dynasty that's.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Doesn't happen too often.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (40:25):
Twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, right after this, you see Captain
Clay's born.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yes he is.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
You're you're kind of away from the team doing your rehab,
and then all of a sudden you come back around
and you're like, yo, y'all got.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
To come on the boat.
Speaker 6 (40:41):
Yeah, And we're like what, You're like, yeah, y'all got
to come on the boat. Like I got the boat
up here, I got a boat. When you got the boat,
was that always in your plans to get a boat
or was that kind of like I'm hurt, I need
something else to do to kind of take my mind, like,
what was the process.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Of that for you?
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Oh, there was always a plan to get a boat,
and believe it or not, there's a San Francisco Chronicle
article from twenty fourteen or fifteen. Well, I'm quoted saying
my dream one day is to own a fishing boat.
And it just so happened. I had some free time,
I got healthy enough where I was mobile again in
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twenty nineteen and I pulled the trigger.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
I got a big, old sport fishing, closed cabin boat.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
And everyone was all my family and my friends were like,
you don't need a boat, you don't know how to
drive a boat. But I was like, I'm going to
take the courses. I'm going to take all the steps.
I'm not going to make any shortcuts because I love
the ocean. I love having that freedom, the freedom to go,
you know, to Catalina or to freaking Sam's Anchor Cafe
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and Tibron. There's just a whole new world out there
when you get on the water. So I was doubted,
but it happened, and I'm so grateful because I've seen
a whole new side.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Of the bay.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Being able to get on the water and get out
to stints In or go up to Delta.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
There's just so many cool waterways.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
And now it's a lifelong skill I have as well.
So it was always a dream of mine ever since
I was a kid on a boat and become a
skilled fisherman. That part, I'm not there yet, but I
got the captain skills down.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (42:26):
My first time on the boat, I told y'all my
first time on the boat, I can suspend it for
coming in grabbing dude because he was grabbing clay And
ironically I.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Couldn't get to the bay the next day.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
Two days later, I was trying to get across San
Francisco Chase Center.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
The bay bridge was shut down.
Speaker 6 (42:49):
Captain clay E Howesing and CD came across the water
to Jack London. It was a beautiful day. It's a
beautiful day pulling up to Chase by the way to.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Go to work like that.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
It's nice, isn't it. It's fire, It's nice. It's the best.
Besides like getting shots up and winning basketball games, the
best part of my day is really just like getting
the coffee, going to Harbor and making my way down
south to Chase Center. It's so beautiful, man. Yeah, it's
the best.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
It's absolutely amazing. A couple more questions before we get
out of here. And you spoke about Jermaine O'Neill and
teaching you about the business of basketball, and I've learned
a tone through the business of basketball. Jermaine o'nill was
represented by Washerman. Uh throughout his career. You are represented.
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You are Washerman athlete as well.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (43:43):
I've had three agents. My third agent is Ris Paul
Clutch Sports. UH. In my career, learning different things along
the way and feeling the need for something different.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
You've had two agents in your career.
Speaker 6 (43:56):
What was the turning point for you when you decided
I'm gonna go in a different direction, Like what knowledge
did you gain up until that point to where you
felt confident enough to say, I think I want something
different at this point in my career and representation, What
was some of the things that you picked up at
that time to make you make a decision like that?
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Because I feel like representation today you get so.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
Many kids like I'm like my mom going to represent me,
my dad going to represent here, this person. It's like, Yo,
there's a whole business out here that they don't have
a clue what it means, and it kind of goes
by the wayside. What was that for you at that
time to make you make the decision? Who's you know now,
your current agent Grady that you've been with since two
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thousand and what eighteen somebody?
Speaker 4 (44:46):
Yeah, seventeen, maybe sixteen around there. Wow, it's a good question.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Well, I mean I give credit to Bill Duffy as well.
Bill was an incredible agent. He's been a super agent.
He's been around the NBA forever.
Speaker 6 (45:04):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Bill was a freshman when my dad was a senior
at the University of Minnesota, So that was easy for me.
My dad been around the game so long. He's like, no, no, no,
we're gonna go with Bill. So I was like, okay,
that's cool. Love Bill, and we did great things together.
He's based out of Walnut Creek and he's still a
really close friend. I know, he's Beatp's agent, so I
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still get to see him and chopping up with him.
But uh, I think there came a time, you know,
my sixth year where I was like, you know, we've
done we've done greatness. We've done great things together. But
maybe uh, I can explore some new avenues, like and
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just trying, you know, grow my brand, I guess. And
uh I met with Greg and I mean we just
kind of had someimilar thoughts of what the KT line
could become or my interests what I could grow those
into that, whether that be business or philanthropy. And that's
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the hardest part of this business is having to have
those difficult conversations.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
And it hurt, like separating with BDA. But at the
end of the day, like I was just thinking, like.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
I kind of want some more control over just.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
Just just a company just for me in a sense,
I guess.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
But it's still awkward to even talk about because I
feel bad in a sense like dang, it was never personal,
Like I never really meant knew what that meant as
a teenager or college kid when someone's like, it's not personal,
it's business because you know, emotions are evolved, But that's
really what it was. And you know, I love Build
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of Death. I mean that guys like my dad's one
of his best friends. They played college ball together and
it was just a tough switch up really and.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
Had great success since had some back then.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
And.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
I don't I'm not the most hands on person.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
So it helps when have so many in my corner
who like will vet a lot of deals or bring
to the table what they think is worthy of my time.
And it takes a lot to get to that point.
I wasn't really worried about the other ventures until we
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started winning and people started noticing us, when we got
some national notoriety, and then like, Okay, I can kind
of manage.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
My time a little better.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
I've been in the league five six years now, I
know what I want my future to look like.
Speaker 4 (47:58):
And that was that.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
It was still it was hard, and it was a
good lesson for what was to come. If I do
want to keep continuing to do investing in business after basketball,
you're going to always have to have those difficult conversations.
And that was the first one in my career that
was really like dang, that was hard to do and
it didn't feel good, but kind of had to be done.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Yeah, I respect that the conversations is tough. Yeah, man, those.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
Conversations do so much together. It's just hard.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Absolutely, Like I said, a couple more we get out
of here.
Speaker 6 (48:35):
You and Steph's admiration for each other's jump shots.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
I think it's such an honorable thing. Steph is worldly
known as the greatest shoot ever.
Speaker 6 (48:51):
And I personally think and I think Steph feels the
same way. I know Steph feels the same way because
I watch him speak on your jump shot, and like
the way when he speaks about your jump shot, the
appreciation that he has for your jump shot and for you,
like it just like oozes through his answers, like like
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you just like you can feel how much he admires
your jump shot. And so I don't even want to
ask this question as far as in the sense of today,
because the reality is we're old and like we kind
of got our routines now, and you know, we don't
have a million shooting competitions anymore like we used to have.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Like we used to have shooting competitions.
Speaker 6 (49:37):
I used to beat you guys all the time, you know,
and that just don't happen to him, Like we don't
do that anymore. But like just going back to the
days and when we used to put play put it
on the board, you know, and and like all these
different games, and you guys used to go back and forth.
You win, he win, you win, he win, you win,
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you win, you win. He went he went like and
that was it, and like then you got hurt. That
probably took a part in everybody putting their routines together.
Now everything is so calculated on how much you're doing
and all these different things.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
That has changed.
Speaker 6 (50:15):
But like, talk to me about Yes, his admirations, his admiration,
but your admiration for his jump shot. Like you, jump
shots are completely different. Yours is tighter and more compact
and probably more textbook than anybody in the world I've
ever seen. And yet you know, Steph's is more motion
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in it, but shoots a million different types of ways.
Just talk to me about his jump shot and what
is it that you see as one of the greatest
shooters ever? If they say Steph is one, god damnage
you too, what is it that you see and his
jump shot that just makes it so special?
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (51:02):
I think it's like the force he generates. So I'm like,
STEP's like maybe a buck ninety two hundred max. And
how I'm just like, how you able to shoot from
thirty five feet so accurately and easily. I think it
comes from the legs, but he's incredibly strong, And then
how quickly he loads his jumper from whether it be
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from the dribble, off the catch, it's insane. I mean,
that's what I admire, just his ability to shoot from
all different angles and feet positions, Like as long as
STEP's shoulders are square to the basket, it's got a
chance of going in. And uh, that's where I'm really
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impressed with him, is like you can't plan from the drive, obviously, but.
Speaker 4 (51:54):
Just how quickly he gets it off.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
One thing I do have on Steph, though, this is
probably one of the best moments in my life, is
when we were at the White House in twenty fifteen
and mister Obama, mister President Obama said my jump shot
was a little prettier than Steph.
Speaker 4 (52:10):
So that was the one win I have over him.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
I was like, yes, here that Steph, mister president likes
my jumper more. So that was the one time where
I felt like I had a good win against Steph.
I was like, nice, you might have a higher three
point percentage of more makes but you know number forty
four likes mind a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
By the way, I.
Speaker 6 (52:33):
Know that still stinks him. When when where President Obama
said that I'm gonna tell you something else, I think
still stinks how bad.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
Do you think Steph wants to beat you at fourteen tah?
Speaker 1 (52:46):
Uh, probably badly. I mean, Steve Wan is such a
good sport. You know, I could have ran that thing
up with like sixteen seventeen threes, but maybe eighteen. You know,
I could have even twenty shooting. Making twenty threes in
a game be insanez but uh yeah, I know he
wants to beat it bad, but he's number two, So
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him and Zach.
Speaker 4 (53:10):
A number two, they can stay there.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Hopefully that record will be broken. No records are meant
to be broken. So I'm enjoyable. I got it, but
it's gonna be broken one day. But I just hope
they've put asterisk next to mine, like did it in
three twenty seven minutes?
Speaker 6 (53:25):
Who breaks it? If you can say right now who
breaks that record? Who breaks it? Or do we not
even see that person?
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Man, that's a great question. I mean, who shoots a
high enough volume of threes? Shot twenty four threes that game?
That's insane?
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Yead?
Speaker 1 (53:44):
I mean, could be Staph could be uh, I mean
Dame Lillard's had multiple games, you have twelve three point
game in the playoffs, could be Dame. I mean can't
sleep on Zach. He has thirteen freaking Booker. That guy's
going for sixty a few times this year. Devin could
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do it. Uh, that's probably shortlist. Maybe Kyrie not. That's
a lot of threes, man, I don't know. Murray was close.
Keegan Murray was close. I remember watching that game. He
was very close. He's like twelve or fourteen maybe or something.
So I think it's gonna happen. I just op it
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stands for a while.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
Yeah, last one, number one. I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (54:34):
Oh yeah, no problem.
Speaker 6 (54:35):
This is exciting for me just getting here to sit
here and chop it on with you. But like I said,
the beginning more importantly for the world, did you see
you talk? You know, these they don't get the opportunity,
and I always appreciate that opportunity.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
So I wanted them to hear that.
Speaker 6 (54:52):
But before we get out of our last guest on
the show was Drew Holliday. Obviously, Drew comes from a
family that has multiple NBA players in it, and you
come from a family your dad, yourself. Mikey t multiple
NBA players in it, obviously saying everyone's in their prime.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
Drews say, there's no chance any NBA family.
Speaker 7 (55:16):
Who winning these games? Who winning these games? Y'all taking
them easy?
Speaker 4 (55:28):
Oh, it ain't easy because they the NBA players.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
But come on now, we've got dogs over here.
Speaker 6 (55:37):
My dad and everyone's in there pro Wow.
Speaker 2 (55:41):
What does the Thompson's have to say about that?
Speaker 1 (55:43):
Don't sleep on Trace either. Tracer is a really good player.
Trace got recruited play D one in high school. We
want to stay titled together, but he decided to go
to the MLB route. It's worked out great for him.
Traces would be a great sub man. Me and my
dad will be a nice two man game, you know. Yeah,
he was twenty and ten. Guy was a bucket on
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the block, great defender, quick for a big man. Then Mikey,
you know, Mike and his prime great athlete, had a
couple of coffee in the league, played overseas national team
for the Bahamas, and we got to play the Holiday brothers.
They are definitely more They're quicker than us between Aaron,
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Drew and Justin.
Speaker 4 (56:29):
But I think with my.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Dad on the block, I think we could beat him
up a little bit on the block.
Speaker 4 (56:33):
And he's got me and Mikey kicking out for threes.
That'd be a good one. The Lopez twins would be
tough too.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
The Griffin brothers, a lot of the Right brothers, a
lot of great NBA brothers.
Speaker 4 (56:45):
The kurt are too little, just got too little. Oh yeah,
they got Dell too. I forgot. I got a lot
of shooting.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
Huh hmm, the Nance Larry and his father. Yeah, I'm
taking the Thompsons just just for family's pride sake. I'm
sorry Holiday family and all the other NBA families.
Speaker 4 (57:07):
I'm taking the Thompsons. We have the most versatility.
Speaker 2 (57:09):
I think I respect that. Yeah, probably the most rings too.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
Yeah, between I think so six between my dad and I.
Speaker 4 (57:19):
Yeah, it's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
Pretty much, Mike, he got one in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
Did Yeah, you got a league cruise, the only time
the NBA team and the G League team won a
title in the same year.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (57:34):
Yeah, there's rings in there.
Speaker 2 (57:35):
The hardware, man, my brother.
Speaker 6 (57:38):
I appreciate you coming on the show, man, It's been
a long time coming. I can't thank you enough, and
not just for coming on this show, but what you've
meant in my life for my career. You know, I
never imagine uh becoming who I've become in this league,
and I do not take for granted at all. Like
you know, I oftentimes get like, if you ain't playing
(57:59):
with Stephan Clay, like you wouldn't be shit.
Speaker 4 (58:03):
Yeah, And I'm like, well, you can't rewrite the history books.
Speaker 1 (58:06):
People like, what are we doing? Okay, great? I know
the Chief and Kevin Kale you know.
Speaker 2 (58:15):
So I'm always like, okay, cool.
Speaker 6 (58:17):
But the reality is is regardless of how much someone
can say that, someone will say that, I would agree
with them every time.
Speaker 2 (58:25):
I don't care.
Speaker 6 (58:26):
Uh, it does not make me feel a way at
all because I'm so thankful because the reality is regardless
of what people have to say about me. And if
I didn't play with y'all, we had to work to
make this shit happen. It just wasn't like, oh, I'm
this player and you're that player and stuff this player great.
Speaker 2 (58:45):
It worked like now.
Speaker 6 (58:47):
We had to work and go through the wringer to
actually make it happen. And I'm forever grateful for you
two guys and the journey that we've been on for
the last twelve years. And I hope nothing more than
for us to finish this whole thing altogether and be
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sitting there when you get your statue at Chase, when
Steph get his statue at Chase, and when they come
sit the Bible ahead of me, right next to y'all.
I look forward to those days, man, because right next
to y'all just super bow it to the ground so
nobody can take my biblehead away and it will be
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just fine with my brother.
Speaker 2 (59:31):
I can't thank you enough, man.
Speaker 1 (59:32):
Appreciate that yes reminisce sometimes Yes, sir.
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Speaker 6 (01:39):
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show.
We got them this next guest, I'm honored to have.
It's been a long time coming. Sometimes hard to pin
the Sea Captain down, but nonetheless let me get into
this intro. As I said, we got to see Captain
join it today. Draft about it with the eleven picked
(02:00):
by the Golden State Warriors.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
In twenty eleven.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Four time NBA Champion, five time NBA All Star, two
time All NBA thirteen NBA All Defensive Second Team, which
is I love? That was a big one. That was
a big one right there. Also twenty sixteen Olympic gold medalist,
none other than my brother, the one and only Klay Thompson.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
What's up.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Well, it's good to be back.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
Well, it's great to have you on the show for
y'all out there. We have been trying to put this
together now for about a year. But you know, I've
played with Clayton now for twelve years, and I know, like,
you don't overly bother Clay. So I just been kind
of like throwing the jab every now and they're like, yo,
we gotta do the pot. And then Clay committed, and
(02:49):
then he decommitted, and then he committed again and.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
We're here, so I appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah, no problem, man.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Let's let's get into it. Though.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
You know, I always always say, you know, I get
questions most about you and stuff, what stuff like, what's
Clay like?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And the reality is is.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
People don't think you talk really, So I'm I'm super
excited to get you on the pod and see if
I can get you to talk a little more than
these people think you talk.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Well, I just talk as much as I have to.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
First off, just just getting right into it, man, What
was it like getting drafted by the Golden State Warriors?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
But growing you grew up as a lifelong Laker fan.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
Dad played for the Lakers, grew up as a Laker fan,
and then you get drafted by the Golden State Warriors.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
What was that like? Did your dad kind.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
Of needle you a bit when that happened about going
to a losing franchise?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I know how competitive y'all are.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, Well, I was actually a Blazer fan and a
Laker fans simultaneously because my dad played for both teams
and great success with both franchises. So very conflicting because
the Lakers stood at everybody's way, but growing up in Portland,
Blazers were everything.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Rose Garden was everything.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And what it was like being drafted by Golden State
it was a dream really because moving to SoCal and
going to high school down there and knowing I'd be
close to my family and I was still in California,
I was on the West Coast. It was Yeah, it
was a dream really.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
It was as close to home as you could really get.
And uh, all my expectations that have been exceeded in
my time here. Uh just you know, listing off those
accolades you did made me realize how blessed I am.
Especially Yeah, growing up watching a lot of NBA and
(04:52):
it's Yeah, exceeded everything I ever thought would become of
being a Warrior.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
When you when you first got drafted to the Warriors
and twenty eleven, Steph is starting his third year, but
at the time dealing with ankle injuries and the whole
nine being questioned on if he'll actually pan out and.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
All of those things.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
When you get drafted to the Warriors that year, what's
your thought of Steph Curry?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
You don't know much about him.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
You're excited or you don't even know to get to
excitement or get excited because you don't know so much
about him at the time.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
What was your understanding Steph at that time?
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Well, Steph was already a superstar in my eyes because
I was a big college basketball fan, and the tournament
run he had in two thousand and I think eight
or nine was so special, and that's when I think
he really elevated himself to having a national following. And
I was one of those followers. So I was already
(05:53):
very familiar with his game and just did on top
of the I mean, I almost had a chance of
playing in college and then I t my freshman year.
We lost to Saint Mary's, who then played Davidson the
second round. So that yeah, that's been a very cool experience.
But it didn't happen, so it's all good.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah, that's been cool.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Know who was who.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Earlier in your career and I'm taking you back, who,
if any, was a vet for you that took you
under their wing that you look back on because and
the reason I asked that question is this, And we'll
get into that a little later, but I see what
you're now doing for the young fellas on our team, Uh, sacrificing, teaching,
(06:43):
instilling confidence. Who was the vet for you when you
first came in the league that kind of took you
under their wing?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
If any?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Oh yeah, my rookie year, I would say Darrell drell
Wright was was great. I mean Darrell had the record
for most three pointers made in a Warrior season at
the time. And he was from southern California as well,
and we said a lot of common you know, big
lanky wings who loved to shoot the three ball.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
He enjoys baseball just like I do. So d Wright
was a great vet to me.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
He would take me out to dinner, he would look
after me and just teach me what the NBA life
was like, So d Wright was great. I mean, David
Lee was a great VET. D Lee was like a
superstar my eyes, because I'm a rookie and he's already
an All Star, one of the best players on the
Knicks team, double double machine. So I looked up to
(07:42):
those two guys just being them, so establishing their careers.
And I mean Monte was great as well. Mante I
just always admired his talent. You know, I was to
be able to average twenty five plus in the NBA.
I really was enamored by that.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
I aspire to do that.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So I always watched Mante closely, just how he you know,
acted in practice or what his game day rituals were.
And then my second year, I thought, or third year,
I thought Jermaine O'Neil was a great VET. Jermaine I
grew up in Portland, so I knew him from his
(08:22):
rookie year and on. He was straight out of high school,
and jo was just even beyond basketball. He was the
first player to really teach me about business and entrepreneurship,
and he was talking that off the court, investing long
before it was ever mainstream and popular amongst players.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
These days, and jo was really.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Opened my mind when I to so many new things.
And that's why so much respect for Jail because he
didn't go to university and he still became am an incredible,
incredibly savvy business person and he kept learning and educating himself.
(09:06):
And that's the type of leader I love to be around.
And so I give Jail a ton of credit for
talking about things outside of hoop that really expanded my horizons.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
You spoke with Monte, and obviously Monte was was traded away,
your second year, first first year, first year in the league.
Monte gets traded away. That's all this almost in a
sense kind of thrusting you and Steph ahead right away. Yeah.
(09:39):
Did you feel any added pressure or anything of that
nature when when Monte was traded away or did that
more so fall onto Steph at that time?
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I do remember when Mante was traded. I give Mante
a ton of credit because you know, he could have
not given paid me no mind, and you know, he's
established the best player on our team. He's established playing
in the same position they drafted two guard in the lottery.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
He could have had a.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Bad attitude about it, but he was a great vet
in that sense and always looked out for US rookies.
But when he got traded, I did. I didn't feel
the pressure, but I knew that I had an opportunity
and I'll never forget. You know, after he did get traded,
we were playing the Kings at Arco Arena and Steph
(10:32):
might have been out that night, but he did come
up to me pregame and gave me a really good
pep talk, like, look, this is your time to seize
this moment and be yourself because it's right there for
you to take. And that meant a lot to me.
He went out his way to tell me that, especially
(10:53):
as a twenty one year old rookie, and Steph Curry's
telling me that I could be the future too guard
of this team that is stilled a ton of confidence
in me. I think I went six for nineteen that night,
but we got the w and but then I had
a great run after that, and that's because you know,
(11:14):
the team gave me so much confidence making those moves
to allow me to kind of fail my rookie year
and play through mistakes, and that experience did so much
for me being able to play thirty five minutes against
the Celtics or the Lakers, and against guys that I
grew up idolizing. So my rookie year was one of
the best times of my life.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
Really, Mark Jackson said very early on, I'll never forget
it because I remember everybody saying, like, Yo, he's crazy,
what is he talking about? Blah blah blah. He said
very early on a couple of things. He said, I
got the two baddest shooters on the planet. I got
the baddest backcourt in the game, best backcourt ever. And
(11:58):
when he said that early on, everybody's like, ah, what's
wrong with what is he talking about?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
What does he see? And yeah, you guys go on to.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
Completely change the way the game of basketball is played,
like completely. But at that time, when Mark Jackson goes
on live television, national television to.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Say that.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
What did that do for you or what did it
do to you? How did you feel about it?
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Well, I knew Steph was in that realm at the time.
I did not know if I was there yet I
knew I could be. What's funny is.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
When I was really active on Twitter back then, I
put my bio even before I ever played an NBA game,
I put I'm chasing Ray Allen as far as trying
to break that record or whatever, right, so to kind
of follow that mold of being a Ray Allen Reggie
Miller type player. And then for Mark to say those
(13:10):
things and him not even budge about it, when you
know the experts and analysis were dogging him for it
gave me so much confidence. And Mark isn't just going
to gas you up like that. He's seeing the best
ever play he's played against, the best ever played. So
when someone like Mark Jackson says that, it did so
(13:34):
much for me, especially eternally, and I'll never forget another
time when this one knew I had another chance to
be special or do some cool things. Was Donnie Walsh
for the Knicks. I worked out for the Knicks, and
I had a good workout. I was like twenty two
or twenty five in spot shooting, and then Donnie comes
(13:55):
up to me and he's like, Clay, you remind me
so much of Reggie Miller. And when he said that,
I was like, man, that's really cool because I watched
so much of Reggie's film as him just coming off
flopy action pinned downs, his game winning highlight reel shots.
So those two instances as far as just give me
confidence from Mark to Donnie Walsh, I knew if I
(14:17):
kept working that despite what the naysayers say, I would
be able to do some really cool things in this league.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
What do you think about like and no one speaking
of that, think the confidence that Mark Jackson, coach Mark
Jackson instilled in you. And I always speak about that,
like I think back to those days and like, if
there was one thing that he did, is he, like
Mark would put confidence on the plate and just hand
(14:45):
it to you like he That's what he did, Like
he could give you confidence, like I think that was
one in strong suits. And then you look he was
a point guard. It's in a sense of what point
guards do. They make you feel good, They get you
the ball in your spots and all those things. And
Mark had that ability as good as anyone I've ever seen.
(15:07):
I think he was absolutely special in that department. And
saying that, when you look at all of these teams
around NBA young teams in particular, like we were when
Mark instilled that confidence.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Coach Jackson, I call him, but we're speaking on.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Here, and Mark instill in the confidence that he did,
and you look at all of these young teams around
the NBA who can't get a win, suck year in
and year out, and knowing and understanding the confidence that
he gave us at that point when the Warriors is
coming off winning twenty three games in the season, what
(15:46):
do you make of none of those teams hiring them
knowing what he did for us at that point in
our careers.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Yeah, it's strange.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
It just doesn't add up because without Mark, there's no
foundation for what was to come, especially defensively. I mean,
we had the top rated defense in consecutive years with Mark,
and then for him to you know, let Steph and
I shoot the shots we would shoot. That was kind
(16:17):
of taboo back then. But now I'm watching all levels
of basketball and you're seeing dribble packages, step backs, transition threes,
You're seeing crazy pulls from all levels, which is great.
It's the evolution of the game. But if it wasn't
for Mark, this would never have happened. So it does.
(16:39):
It does not make very much sense how he has
not had another shot to lead a franchise, But I
hope he really does because he man, he was great
and those were really special memories for not only me,
but when you were young, and Steph and all the
guys we play with can't freaking hb fest.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
We were a young team.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
And without that kind of false bravado that Mark provided,
we would never believe we could beat Tim Duncan led
Spurs or go to Denver and win a playoff series
being twenty three years old. Twenty two, Yeah, some young
twenty year olds. So I'm I don't know why that
hasn't happened. But Mark was great, and I really think
(17:26):
he should get another shot because he was such a
joy to play for, and he was such an incredible
motivator and I just love picking his brain about the
times he faced Michael or what was like running the
pick and roll Patrick Ewing and I grew up playing
NBA jam and watching so much Soop, so it was
really cool just to you know, learn from him.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
I second that I always talk about just the confidence
that he instilled in us, especially in you two guys
like you said at the shots that they'd allow y'all
to take, like it started the transition in basketball of
what we see today, no question.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
And then take you far back again.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
I remember Steve first coming in and Steve is implementing
his offense, and we're going through training camp and he's
like Clayton, swing the ball, Steph, swing the ball, move.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
The ball, and like every time we come down the court,
he's just like moving, move and move it. And I
remember asking.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Him, Yo, Stephan clay like they get the shots here,
how are they going to get these shots and him saying,
the ball will find who the ball.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Is supposed to find. But we're going to move the ball.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
We're going to be a ball moving team with Steve
coming in to implement his office, and it's just ball movement,
ball movement, And originally we don't quite understand which is
out the like oh man, Like I remember the grunts
and like everybody's like, yo, this is trash. Like he
just keep telling us to pass the ball, Like I mean,
(19:10):
like I remember that that happens Steve's implemented his new
At that time, what are you thinking, Are you at
all worried that you won't have the same freedom, that
you won't get the same shots At that time, what
are you thinking with coach kirkr coming in and none
of us could even see like remotely close to the
(19:31):
vision that he had our offense.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Well, I didn't know Steve Kurt the Blazer because I
was a Blazer fan, so you know, knockdown shooter, I think,
all time leader in three point field goal percentage. So
being a young gunner, I knew he was going to
utilize my skill and appreciate my skill of being a
(19:53):
perimeter player. And I'll never forget Steve first week of
training camp. One of his biggest emphasis was last year
we were the last team in passes may per game,
and then that year in twenty fifteen, we were with
a team with the most passes may per game, and
I think that just unlocked a whole new dimension of
(20:16):
basketball I never really seen before as far as the
shooting and the athleticism combined. What we had it was
special and I think it kind of blitz the NBA
by storm just with the small ball and the pace
and the space. It was an incredible time to be
a Warrior. So I do give Steve a ton of credit.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
He didn't He would.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Always give coach Jackson credit, especially for laying the foundation.
But he just did a few tweaks and a little
couple modifications to the offensive system that just did wonders
from my game and obviously Steph, but it did so
much for me as far as just being an off
ball cutter and a mover and a floor spacer that
I've kind of still played in that same role now
(21:00):
and it's kind of just it's been good to me.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
Absolutely, No, I think, uh, you know what, Like I said,
what it did was it Not only did it was
at the beginning of a dynasty that we we we've
all taken part in creating and building, but it was
the beginning of the way basketball is played. Yeah, and
(21:24):
that to me, like I always look back on that
and like I always say, like I had the opportunity
to play with in my mind, the greatest team ever
as symbol. And one of the reasons I feel that
way is, yes, we were dominant, Yes we won championships,
(21:45):
all that way, all that was great, but it changed
the way the game was played in around the world.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
You gotta you gotta give yourself credit to Dre. I
mean there's not Steve came in, you know, to allow
you to bring the ball off the rim, have me
and Steph flyoff picks. The traditional power forward was I
just remember that year, like the typical power forward is
not able to stay in front of you, and they're
(22:15):
not used to like you gotta pick this guy up
at half court, and then we got to guard the
ball screen the dho it's just so dynamic, and then
you hit the lob threat, there's the backside shooter and
just kind of so without you, the whole thing would
never have worked, and it kind of just unlocked a
whole new way to a positionally style of basketball, which
(22:37):
is I think the most fun to be a part of.
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(24:01):
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what I excel at, what I love to do on
the basketball court.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I don't care to shoot the basketball like I will shoot.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
I'll take the shot if it's there, But like my
whole life, I've never really cared to shoot.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
And I've spent many years of my life as a scorer.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
I have the ability, but it never like I never
got off on shooting the basketball. I always felt better
getting an assist, and we know that you are the
total opposite that you must try to get the.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Buckets, but I'll pass.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
But I always said, like the pieces couldn't have fit
better together, and your skill set my clays, I mean
Stephs skill set and my skill set, but not only
the skill sets are meters could have never fit better together.
(25:05):
Like I am more outspoken, I'm more in your face.
You're more like, this is what I'm doing. Follow me here.
If I get pissed off, I'm gonna let you guys know,
because ultimately I want to win. Steph is more lead
by example. I'll speak up, and you know, as it's
(25:26):
he's grown, both of you guys speak up more and more.
But I'm not gonna be in your face about it.
And and what it did is you know, Bob always
will say, man, it's incredible that you guys still sit
together like But I think one of the biggest components
(25:47):
to that is because we were so different than those aspects.
It created a larger appreciation for each other, a space
where or we never bump ass because I'm not in
your lane, You're not in steph lane, He's not in
my lane. So there's never like any situation where there's
(26:09):
a bumpheads and like there's never any pressure for you
to be me, for me to be Steph, for Steph
to act like you, like it's all no. I know
who you is, you know who Steph is, he know
who I am, and vice versa, and with that there's
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an appreciation for that, and that to me is what
I feel like has been more.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Special of this whole Agree.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
I agree. You look at teams where it's like so
much time together it's just ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Like y'all, y'all too.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
In particular, I've seen you too, more than anybody I've
seen in my life in the past twelve years. Yeah,
you know, with the time that we've spend together, the
success that we've at and it's been an absolutely incredible journey.
I'm going to ask you a question that it's not
on it's not on any of this, but i want
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to ask you this question, and I want to ask
it because I'm afraid of the answer, and I've never
asked the question. There'd be two people I've asked the
question too, in particular, and it'd be you and step
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not really anyone else. But I'm very afraid of the answer.
But be brutally honest with you. When I get ejected
or something of that nature or suspended, what do you feel,
how do you feel?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
What like? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 6 (27:57):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (27:58):
When dre well, please.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Be brutally honest with me. It's going to crush me,
but I need to hear it.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Well.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I mean, it's it happens. I mean, you know, Andre,
you're kind of a kind of a throwback player. Not
a lot of you know, not a lot of guys.
I mean, the the NBA is very different than it was, say,
twenty years ago, thirty forty years ago, where back then
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it felt like a nightly thing, where it was just
so physical. Now in the twenty twenties, times have changed.
We see each other so much. The basketball world is small,
from the grassroots level through college all the way to
pro kind of know everybody, and I know, I always
know your intentions are good. You're one of the greatest
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winners in the history of basketball at every level, So
that trumps any statistical output you could ever have, whatever,
triple double, whatever record. The one that means the most
of me is that winning percentage playoffs regular season, one
of the greatest winning percentages of NBA history. So when
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you're not out there, it's like a piece of us
is gone. And me and Steph are really nice guys,
like probably too nice, you know, and we could never
be ourselves and have the freedom that we do on
the court without you. So when you're not out there,
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it's kind of like a huge kinking on armor. And
I know the other team is very happy you're not
out there. I just know that for a fact. They're like,
they can they relax a little bit, they let their
hair down, they they feel a little bit more like
they pump their chest up a little more because you know,
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our muscle's gone on. Enforcer, the guy, the heartbeat of
our team is not out there, and so it does hurt.
But at the end of the day, we've been through
so many battles, reached the mountaintop, been down the mountain,
had to climb back up, got there again, and now
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we have another real shot at this and it's been
like a couple of tough years, but still we're still fighting.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
We're still we're still in the mix. So it does hurt.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
It could be disappointing in the moment, but it will
never take away from what's ahead of us and what
we've done.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
So at the end of the day, we just need you.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
And that that that like disappointment and that feeling of
just like shaking your head, that just comes from dang, man,
we can't do this without you. So we uh, we
love you and we need you so badly, and these
young guys need you too, because Steph and I are
we're leaders, but we don't talk the game like you do.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
We don't inspire these young guys like you do.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
And even when Kenny calls on you in film and
there's there's gonna be a void there always if you're
not out there, and we're not the Warriors without Money Green.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
That's just a fact that you can ask.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Anybody in the Bay around the world who's followed this team.
We would not be the does without you. So that's
where that like like dang not again, that's where that
comes from. And just like, man, it's just hard to
start to do it without you.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Bro. I appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
Man. Oh that took a lot from me. Yeah, but
I appreciate that. And you know, I think for me,
like you know, you go through these moments, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
And I don't think this would be that big a deal,
say like four or five years ago. But there's just
such a magnifying glass in our team nowadays. I mean,
I think we're the highest value basketball team in the world.
So with that comes credible media coverage, sensational.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
At times, and.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
When you're a Hall of Fame player like yourself, people
are gonna love to tear you down.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
You know, that's gonna.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
I've seen that in every generation of basketball, whether it
be Dennis Robmin, my favorite player, Rashid Wallace, you, the
media and fans, the pundits, they just love to point
the finger, especially when you're at your weakest. So can't
we just can't let that to tear us from what
we got to do, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Rather than that, That's where I'm at with it obviously.
Like I said, I.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
I think for me personally, when these things happen, like
the thing that I think about the most is you
and Steph. It's like, fuck, I can't help those guys,
Like I can't be out there with them, like that's
all I care to do, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
It's like be out there with you guys.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
Set screens, defend, find you guys like with great passes
to get you all shots, but more importantly just be
out there with my brothers, like competing with the guys
that I've competed with my entire NBING career for the
last twelve years, one championships with And I'm a work
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in progress and work continuing to working to better myself.
But I appreciate you and stuff, you know, for always
sticking with me, being right by my side no matter what.
That brotherhood I don't take for granted at all. And
speaking of which myself, you have a free agency coming
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up this summer, and you know, and speaking of plan
with you know you for the last twelve years, with
Steff for the last twelve years and what we've built here.
Things change, you know, the NBA changes, cap situations changed,
this thing changed, that thing change. As you go into
free agency this summer, what's a priority to you as
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you look at you know, the next three, four or
five whatever you decide you want to play, as you
look at kind of the last segment of your career,
if you will, what's important to you as you embark
up on that.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I just can't believe it's here. Like when you're in
your mid twenties, it's so crazy. You think you're going
to play forever, really, and you think you just maintain
that athletic level that seems effortless, But then as time
goes on, you really do realize how demanding this job
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really is, and it's so physically demanding. And I was
actually struggling with that a lot at the beginning of
this year because of the unknown, you know, I mean,
I might have led contract situations or playing time or
using making up a lot of excuses rather than just.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Appreciating what is in front of me.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
And it took me and Steve like four real heart
to heart talks to finally break my shell, being like,
you know what, I gotta have fun this year. I
deserve to have fun, Like we worked so hard to
freaking win these games and play into June and.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Have fans on the road. I mean, my first couple
of years, there might be a few staff Curry jerseys
in the crowd. Now it's like a whole contingent in
the Warrior fans on the road. It's insane. So I
was kind of grappling with that a lot this year.
It's almost like your own own mortality is an athlete
like man, I might not be able to elevate like
I once did, or I might not slide my feet
left and right like I once did. But I can
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still be a heck of a player if I just
give gratitude and keep that perspective, like I'm out here balling,
because that was hard for me these last few years,
when you're when you go through injuries and you're so
used to playing at a certain level, guarding a certain guy,
shooting certain shots, and.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Then you have to adjust all of that. That was
the hardest part of my career. And it's still hard
for me, you know, when I'm used to scoring twenty
five in a quarter, locking.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Up the best player.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Now I gotta be pick my spots a lot more,
just precisely, which is fine. I've finally come to accept, like, look,
I can still be a heck of a player. I
can still be incredibly efficient and as long as I'm
having fun and being a good tea. And you actually
helped me a tone when you're like, lean into these
young guys, lean into the fact you're a vet, you
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made X amount of money, you don't have to worry
about nothing, Like you're playing for the love of the game.
And I think once I realized that, and I relaxed
a little bit, rather than trying to play for a
contract or an All Star not or some accolades, but
rather just play for the love of the game and
the fact they get to play cards with the guys
on the plane. We're playing ping pong last night after
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the game. We're having fun. That's the beauty of the
game right there. Not trying to get another Max deal
or another endorsement, but just smelling the roses and appreciating
all the work took to get here and saying that
when it comes to free agency in July, I just
got to keep that in mind, like, yes, I want
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to resign with the Doves, but I also have to
prioritize my mental health and you know, lay out what
is important to me at this point in my career.
And I know we have so much basketball ahead that
I haven't given it much thought, really, because if I
start thinking about July first, then I'm just doing myself disservice.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
I'm not here.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
I'm not thinking about the Horns tomorrow and these muscling
games this weekend. So for me, it's just about staying present,
as simple as that is. Stay in present and appreciating
being the NBA because my uncle Andy always told me,
is like Clay, your careers can go by and snap
of fingers. So just appreciate this life you live. It's
not a right, it's.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Really a privilege.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
And you know, Uncle Lenny, he been around the game
since the last Dance, so that helped me a lot
as well.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
Absolutely, in twenty nineteen, if you don't get hurt, do
you approach your free agency, your whole free agency process
differently at that point.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
That's a big one. If that's a wow, Yeah, that was.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
That could have been a definite possibility just because you're healthy.
But at the same time too, if I don't get hurt,
and let's say we do win a we do three pete,
it's like you're not walking away from that par You're
not going to that hasn't been done since Shaq and Kobe.
So I never would have walked away from a chance
to stacking rings And uh man, that was a crazy time.
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That was the worst, man, You freaking you know how
long it is to play the old the finals. It's
such a long grind and then like tear a ligament
and then you got to go right back to the gym.
There was no vacation, So that was a I was
very grateful for my family during that time because I
was just kind of lost without basketball and you know,
being on crutches and just having to build all that
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muscle back in my quad and the atrophy.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
That was not fun. Especially after that five year Finals run.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
We had a lot of It's a lot of just
mental and physical wear and tear. And I don't think,
when I really think about it, if I was healthy
and I don't think I would have really tested it
that hard, just because like it's hard to walk away
from a dynasty that's.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Doesn't happen too often.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (40:25):
Twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, right after this, you see Captain
Clay's born.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yes he is.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
You're you're kind of away from the team doing your rehab,
and then all of a sudden you come back around
and you're like, yo, y'all got.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
To come on the boat.
Speaker 6 (40:41):
Yeah, And we're like what, You're like, yeah, y'all got
to come on the boat. Like I got the boat
up here, I got a boat. When you got the boat,
was that always in your plans to get a boat
or was that kind of like I'm hurt, I need
something else to do to kind of take my mind, like,
what was the process.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Of that for you?
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Oh, there was always a plan to get a boat,
and believe it or not, there's a San Francisco Chronicle
article from twenty fourteen or fifteen. Well, I'm quoted saying
my dream one day is to own a fishing boat.
And it just so happened. I had some free time,
I got healthy enough where I was mobile again in
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twenty nineteen and I pulled the trigger.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
I got a big, old sport fishing, closed cabin boat.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
And everyone was all my family and my friends were like,
you don't need a boat, you don't know how to
drive a boat. But I was like, I'm going to
take the courses. I'm going to take all the steps.
I'm not going to make any shortcuts because I love
the ocean. I love having that freedom, the freedom to go,
you know, to Catalina or to freaking Sam's Anchor Cafe
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and Tibron. There's just a whole new world out there
when you get on the water. So I was doubted,
but it happened, and I'm so grateful because I've seen
a whole new side.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Of the bay.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Being able to get on the water and get out
to stints In or go up to Delta.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
There's just so many cool waterways.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
And now it's a lifelong skill I have as well.
So it was always a dream of mine ever since
I was a kid on a boat and become a
skilled fisherman. That part, I'm not there yet, but I
got the captain skills down.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (42:26):
My first time on the boat, I told y'all my
first time on the boat, I can suspend it for
coming in grabbing dude because he was grabbing clay And
ironically I.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Couldn't get to the bay the next day.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
Two days later, I was trying to get across San
Francisco Chase Center.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
The bay bridge was shut down.
Speaker 6 (42:49):
Captain clay E Howesing and CD came across the water
to Jack London. It was a beautiful day. It's a
beautiful day pulling up to Chase by the way to.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Go to work like that.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
It's nice, isn't it. It's fire, It's nice. It's the best.
Besides like getting shots up and winning basketball games, the
best part of my day is really just like getting
the coffee, going to Harbor and making my way down
south to Chase Center. It's so beautiful, man. Yeah, it's
the best.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
It's absolutely amazing. A couple more questions before we get
out of here. And you spoke about Jermaine O'Neill and
teaching you about the business of basketball, and I've learned
a tone through the business of basketball. Jermaine o'nill was
represented by Washerman. Uh throughout his career. You are represented.
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You are Washerman athlete as well.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (43:43):
I've had three agents. My third agent is Ris Paul
Clutch Sports. UH. In my career, learning different things along
the way and feeling the need for something different.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
You've had two agents in your career.
Speaker 6 (43:56):
What was the turning point for you when you decided
I'm gonna go in a different direction, Like what knowledge
did you gain up until that point to where you
felt confident enough to say, I think I want something
different at this point in my career and representation, What
was some of the things that you picked up at
that time to make you make a decision like that?
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Because I feel like representation today you get so.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
Many kids like I'm like my mom going to represent me,
my dad going to represent here, this person. It's like, Yo,
there's a whole business out here that they don't have
a clue what it means, and it kind of goes
by the wayside. What was that for you at that
time to make you make the decision? Who's you know now,
your current agent Grady that you've been with since two
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thousand and what eighteen somebody?
Speaker 4 (44:46):
Yeah, seventeen, maybe sixteen around there. Wow, it's a good question.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Well, I mean I give credit to Bill Duffy as well.
Bill was an incredible agent. He's been a super agent.
He's been around the NBA forever.
Speaker 6 (45:04):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Bill was a freshman when my dad was a senior
at the University of Minnesota, So that was easy for me.
My dad been around the game so long. He's like, no, no, no,
we're gonna go with Bill. So I was like, okay,
that's cool. Love Bill, and we did great things together.
He's based out of Walnut Creek and he's still a
really close friend. I know, he's Beatp's agent, so I
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still get to see him and chopping up with him.
But uh, I think there came a time, you know,
my sixth year where I was like, you know, we've
done we've done greatness. We've done great things together. But
maybe uh, I can explore some new avenues, like and
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just trying, you know, grow my brand, I guess. And
uh I met with Greg and I mean we just
kind of had someimilar thoughts of what the KT line
could become or my interests what I could grow those
into that, whether that be business or philanthropy. And that's
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the hardest part of this business is having to have
those difficult conversations.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
And it hurt, like separating with BDA. But at the
end of the day, like I was just thinking, like.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
I kind of want some more control over just.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
Just just a company just for me in a sense,
I guess.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
But it's still awkward to even talk about because I
feel bad in a sense like dang, it was never personal,
Like I never really meant knew what that meant as
a teenager or college kid when someone's like, it's not personal,
it's business because you know, emotions are evolved, But that's
really what it was. And you know, I love Build
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of Death. I mean that guys like my dad's one
of his best friends. They played college ball together and
it was just a tough switch up really and.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
Had great success since had some back then.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
And.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
I don't I'm not the most hands on person.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
So it helps when have so many in my corner
who like will vet a lot of deals or bring
to the table what they think is worthy of my time.
And it takes a lot to get to that point.
I wasn't really worried about the other ventures until we
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started winning and people started noticing us, when we got
some national notoriety, and then like, Okay, I can kind
of manage.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
My time a little better.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
I've been in the league five six years now, I
know what I want my future to look like.
Speaker 4 (47:58):
And that was that.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
It was still it was hard, and it was a
good lesson for what was to come. If I do
want to keep continuing to do investing in business after basketball,
you're going to always have to have those difficult conversations.
And that was the first one in my career that
was really like dang, that was hard to do and
it didn't feel good, but kind of had to be done.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Yeah, I respect that the conversations is tough. Yeah, man, those.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
Conversations do so much together. It's just hard.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Absolutely, Like I said, a couple more we get out
of here.
Speaker 6 (48:35):
You and Steph's admiration for each other's jump shots.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
I think it's such an honorable thing. Steph is worldly
known as the greatest shoot ever.
Speaker 6 (48:51):
And I personally think and I think Steph feels the
same way. I know Steph feels the same way because
I watch him speak on your jump shot, and like
the way when he speaks about your jump shot, the
appreciation that he has for your jump shot and for you,
like it just like oozes through his answers, like like
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you just like you can feel how much he admires
your jump shot. And so I don't even want to
ask this question as far as in the sense of today,
because the reality is we're old and like we kind
of got our routines now, and you know, we don't
have a million shooting competitions anymore like we used to have.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Like we used to have shooting competitions.
Speaker 6 (49:37):
I used to beat you guys all the time, you know,
and that just don't happen to him, Like we don't
do that anymore. But like just going back to the
days and when we used to put play put it
on the board, you know, and and like all these
different games, and you guys used to go back and forth.
You win, he win, you win, he win, you win,
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you win, you win. He went he went like and
that was it, and like then you got hurt. That
probably took a part in everybody putting their routines together.
Now everything is so calculated on how much you're doing
and all these different things.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
That has changed.
Speaker 6 (50:15):
But like, talk to me about Yes, his admirations, his admiration,
but your admiration for his jump shot. Like you, jump
shots are completely different. Yours is tighter and more compact
and probably more textbook than anybody in the world I've
ever seen. And yet you know, Steph's is more motion
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in it, but shoots a million different types of ways.
Just talk to me about his jump shot and what
is it that you see as one of the greatest
shooters ever? If they say Steph is one, god damnage
you too, what is it that you see and his
jump shot that just makes it so special?
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (51:02):
I think it's like the force he generates. So I'm like,
STEP's like maybe a buck ninety two hundred max. And
how I'm just like, how you able to shoot from
thirty five feet so accurately and easily. I think it
comes from the legs, but he's incredibly strong, And then
how quickly he loads his jumper from whether it be
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from the dribble, off the catch, it's insane. I mean,
that's what I admire, just his ability to shoot from
all different angles and feet positions, Like as long as
STEP's shoulders are square to the basket, it's got a
chance of going in. And uh, that's where I'm really
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impressed with him, is like you can't plan from the drive, obviously, but.
Speaker 4 (51:54):
Just how quickly he gets it off.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
One thing I do have on Steph, though, this is
probably one of the best moments in my life, is
when we were at the White House in twenty fifteen
and mister Obama, mister President Obama said my jump shot
was a little prettier than Steph.
Speaker 4 (52:10):
So that was the one win I have over him.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
I was like, yes, here that Steph, mister president likes
my jumper more. So that was the one time where
I felt like I had a good win against Steph.
I was like, nice, you might have a higher three
point percentage of more makes but you know number forty
four likes mind a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
By the way, I.
Speaker 6 (52:33):
Know that still stinks him. When when where President Obama
said that I'm gonna tell you something else, I think
still stinks how bad.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
Do you think Steph wants to beat you at fourteen tah?
Speaker 1 (52:46):
Uh, probably badly. I mean, Steve Wan is such a
good sport. You know, I could have ran that thing
up with like sixteen seventeen threes, but maybe eighteen. You know,
I could have even twenty shooting. Making twenty threes in
a game be insanez but uh yeah, I know he
wants to beat it bad, but he's number two, So
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him and Zach.
Speaker 4 (53:10):
A number two, they can stay there.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Hopefully that record will be broken. No records are meant
to be broken. So I'm enjoyable. I got it, but
it's gonna be broken one day. But I just hope
they've put asterisk next to mine, like did it in
three twenty seven minutes?
Speaker 6 (53:25):
Who breaks it? If you can say right now who
breaks that record? Who breaks it? Or do we not
even see that person?
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Man, that's a great question. I mean, who shoots a
high enough volume of threes? Shot twenty four threes that game?
That's insane?
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Yead?
Speaker 1 (53:44):
I mean, could be Staph could be uh, I mean
Dame Lillard's had multiple games, you have twelve three point
game in the playoffs, could be Dame. I mean can't
sleep on Zach. He has thirteen freaking Booker. That guy's
going for sixty a few times this year. Devin could
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do it. Uh, that's probably shortlist. Maybe Kyrie not. That's
a lot of threes, man, I don't know. Murray was close.
Keegan Murray was close. I remember watching that game. He
was very close. He's like twelve or fourteen maybe or something.
So I think it's gonna happen. I just op it
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stands for a while.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
Yeah, last one, number one. I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (54:34):
Oh yeah, no problem.
Speaker 6 (54:35):
This is exciting for me just getting here to sit
here and chop it on with you. But like I said,
the beginning more importantly for the world, did you see
you talk? You know, these they don't get the opportunity,
and I always appreciate that opportunity.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
So I wanted them to hear that.
Speaker 6 (54:52):
But before we get out of our last guest on
the show was Drew Holliday. Obviously, Drew comes from a
family that has multiple NBA players in it, and you
come from a family your dad, yourself. Mikey t multiple
NBA players in it, obviously saying everyone's in their prime.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
Drews say, there's no chance any NBA family.
Speaker 7 (55:16):
Who winning these games? Who winning these games? Y'all taking
them easy?
Speaker 4 (55:28):
Oh, it ain't easy because they the NBA players.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
But come on now, we've got dogs over here.
Speaker 6 (55:37):
My dad and everyone's in there pro Wow.
Speaker 2 (55:41):
What does the Thompson's have to say about that?
Speaker 1 (55:43):
Don't sleep on Trace either. Tracer is a really good player.
Trace got recruited play D one in high school. We
want to stay titled together, but he decided to go
to the MLB route. It's worked out great for him.
Traces would be a great sub man. Me and my
dad will be a nice two man game, you know. Yeah,
he was twenty and ten. Guy was a bucket on
(56:04):
the block, great defender, quick for a big man. Then Mikey,
you know, Mike and his prime great athlete, had a
couple of coffee in the league, played overseas national team
for the Bahamas, and we got to play the Holiday brothers.
They are definitely more They're quicker than us between Aaron,
(56:26):
Drew and Justin.
Speaker 4 (56:29):
But I think with my.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Dad on the block, I think we could beat him
up a little bit on the block.
Speaker 4 (56:33):
And he's got me and Mikey kicking out for threes.
That'd be a good one. The Lopez twins would be
tough too.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
The Griffin brothers, a lot of the Right brothers, a
lot of great NBA brothers.
Speaker 4 (56:45):
The kurt are too little, just got too little. Oh yeah,
they got Dell too. I forgot. I got a lot
of shooting.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
Huh hmm, the Nance Larry and his father. Yeah, I'm
taking the Thompsons just just for family's pride sake. I'm
sorry Holiday family and all the other NBA families.
Speaker 4 (57:07):
I'm taking the Thompsons. We have the most versatility.
Speaker 2 (57:09):
I think I respect that. Yeah, probably the most rings too.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
Yeah, between I think so six between my dad and I.
Speaker 4 (57:19):
Yeah, it's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
Pretty much, Mike, he got one in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
Did Yeah, you got a league cruise, the only time
the NBA team and the G League team won a
title in the same year.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (57:34):
Yeah, there's rings in there.
Speaker 2 (57:35):
The hardware, man, my brother.
Speaker 6 (57:38):
I appreciate you coming on the show, man, It's been
a long time coming. I can't thank you enough, and
not just for coming on this show, but what you've
meant in my life for my career. You know, I
never imagine uh becoming who I've become in this league,
and I do not take for granted at all. Like
you know, I oftentimes get like, if you ain't playing
(57:59):
with Stephan Clay, like you wouldn't be shit.
Speaker 4 (58:03):
Yeah, And I'm like, well, you can't rewrite the history books.
Speaker 1 (58:06):
People like, what are we doing? Okay, great? I know
the Chief and Kevin Kale you know.
Speaker 2 (58:15):
So I'm always like, okay, cool.
Speaker 6 (58:17):
But the reality is is regardless of how much someone
can say that, someone will say that, I would agree
with them every time.
Speaker 2 (58:25):
I don't care.
Speaker 6 (58:26):
Uh, it does not make me feel a way at
all because I'm so thankful because the reality is regardless
of what people have to say about me. And if
I didn't play with y'all, we had to work to
make this shit happen. It just wasn't like, oh, I'm
this player and you're that player and stuff this player great.
Speaker 2 (58:45):
It worked like now.
Speaker 6 (58:47):
We had to work and go through the wringer to
actually make it happen. And I'm forever grateful for you
two guys and the journey that we've been on for
the last twelve years. And I hope nothing more than
for us to finish this whole thing altogether and be
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sitting there when you get your statue at Chase, when
Steph get his statue at Chase, and when they come
sit the Bible ahead of me, right next to y'all.
I look forward to those days, man, because right next
to y'all just super bow it to the ground so
nobody can take my biblehead away and it will be
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just fine with my brother.
Speaker 2 (59:31):
I can't thank you enough, man.
Speaker 1 (59:32):
Appreciate that yes reminisce sometimes Yes, sir.
Speaker 6 (59:36):
That's a rap from this episode of The Draymond Green Show.
Speaker 2 (59:40):
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