July 28, 2025 • 24 mins
Join Ryan Wormeli and Jake Ciely as they highlight Jake’s favorite picks to make in each of the first 10 rounds of 2025 fantasy football drafts that will help you dominate your league!
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Intro - 0:00:00
Amon-Ra St. Brown - 0:00:49
Drake London - 0:03:09
James Cook - 0:04:42
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Kenneth Walker - 0:06:30
Omarion Hampton - 0:08:21
Jaylen Waddle - 0:10:53
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Chris Godwin - 0:12:38
Justin Fields and Dak Prescott- 0:15:10
Cooper Kupp - 0:18:19
Bonus Players - 0:20:24
Outro - 0:23:53
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, everybody, Welcome in to Fantasy Pros. I am Ryan,
warmly joined by Jake Seeley from The Athletic. Today we
are talking about Jake's top targets in every round.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well, I shouldn't say every round.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
We're talking about his top targets in the top ten
rounds of fantasy drafts.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Feels like every round.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
But obviously, well there will be going you know, a
few rounds longer in most drafts. There, but we'll be
talking about his top targets in the first ten rounds
of every draft. And we're gonna go through. There's no
real position here, It's just who you like in every round.
This is not to be clear building a team.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You're not saying like this is my perfect draft.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
It's in a vacuum, irrespective of who I've gotten in
previous rounds. These are the names I am targeting in
these rounds. Fantasypros dot Com slash rankings. Everybody can check
out ECR, you know kind of those half PPR rankings.
See roughly where those guys are going. We'll move quickly here.
Jake looks start at the very top. Who's your top
target in round one?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Everybody?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I almost put Christ McCaffrey again. I know we've talked
about him a few times, but I'm gonna say a
mom ron Saint Brown only because it seems to he's
a little bit of pushback lately. And I know a
lot of the concerns are the Ben Johnson leaving and
what is the Morton gonna do? And I know they
said they're doing a little bit of changes, but I
just think it's strange of one of the most consistent
wide receivers wide receiver three in points per game and
(01:14):
overall two years ago, wide receiver seven in points per
game and top five again last year. And maybe people
want to say, well, wide receiver seven, you shouldn't be
going in the first round.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
But I feel like it's the floor I saw.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I think you've seen a little bit different with Saint
Brown last year with some of the stuff being shorter,
and you know, Jered Goff had this huge passing season
and the touchdowns might not be there.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
GET like, it seems like a lot offs.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
For somebody who is clearly the number one focal point
in this passing game, even with the emergence of Jameis
and Williams last year, that I'm taking those targets. I'm
taking that consistency and even if he finishes between last
year and the year before, that would still put him
inside the top five with what I think is one
of the safest floors. You tell me who's more risky,
and I love Pooka Nakua, but who's more risky? Between
(01:57):
Nikoua and Saint Brown, there's more risk with Niakua. Look
if would you be shocked if he was the number
two alongside Adams this year just because of how good
Adam still is.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
No, I would not be shocked, and let let alone
the injury history. We think.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I like Puka, I think when you look at the
other guys in this because I am somebody who has
kind of been fading him, like not all the way
out of the first round. But there's just other names
in the first round that I've been kind of drawn to,
and every single one of them it's the upside case.
It's not the floor case. Pukahs the upside case, Malik
Neighbors ups Nico Collins upside case, Asha Genty upside case,
(02:31):
like Christian McCaffrey upside case. None of them is the
safety case. So I think it's a it's a really
fair point, and it's one of those things where, like
I feel the way I draft and I try to
aim for upside, I won't be taking there will be
somebody else who will take Amara ahead of me. But
at the end of the season, I think when we
look at the rankings and who has outperformed whom like,
(02:51):
I am pretty confident Amora Saint Brown will be very
near the top of that list. So I think it's
it's one of it's it feels weird to call him
a boring play because he's not old, it's been for
a while, but it almost kind of feels like that
a less boring pick and a guy who is also
a big upside guy.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Is he you have in round two?
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Yeah, and I wouldn't be afraid of taking him at
the end of round one. That's Drake London and we've
done another show. It was including deebra on that one,
and I said that a lot of people are like, well,
we hope Pennox can be blank, and my pushback was like,
I don't even need Pennox to be blank. If Pennix
is just the bad version of Kirk Cousins from last
year and plays the entire season as such, that's basically
about a four thousand yard, twenty three twenty four touchdown
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season that volume, even if it's not the forty percent
we saw at the end of the year, and it's
just thirty percent, which it should be. He's Drake London
and this offense centers around him and as the number
one option with fewer threats than Saint Brown has. Honestly,
if you want to go down that road too, Drake
London should be a lock for the top ten. So
I am hammering every time I see him in the
second round, and I think you can make a case
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for him at the end of the first taking him
in the names of Brown, Brian Thomas, Malik neighbors, like,
I think his name deserves to be there, not in
the next group with like the AJ Browns and Jackson
Smith and Jigbos of the world.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
And you did say on that show with Deebro, which
everybody should go check out if they want to hear
kind of a deeper dive on London. I said, are
you taking him in kind of that second round or
more of the third and you were like, neither, I'm
taking him in the first. He's not getting past the
top ten picks and drafts with Jake Seely. So, uh yeah,
definitely somebody that you are very excited about it if you
can get him in the second round, which I think
you can in most leagues. Like you wouldn't want to
(04:29):
look too late, depends on where you're picking, but I
think that'll be the case in most leagues.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
So that's a that's a good call here.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
And this is one that like we have a lot
of consensus on here, a Fantasy pros like debro Erickson degrees.
I agree. We are very heavy on Drake London this year.
Let's go to a running back here in round three.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah, it's funny, similar to Saint Brown, this running back
is getting a lot of pushback. And we've you and
I we've been on episodes where people are like touchdown regression.
Everything worked perfectly last year, but it's gone so far
that we went from course correcting of like late, Let's
not get too crazy on James Cook last year. Let's
not call him top five, top six running back. There
should be like touchdown regression anyway, just from any running
(05:08):
back in general. To repeat what he did is kind
of tough to put into a guarantee. And I know
people will say, well, it's the Bills offense and he
should be able to do it again, but there's risk,
like the contract and they use it. But anyway, I'm
bringing all that up to say is like there's been
so much of well, James Cook can't do it again.
James Cook's got this risk, this risk, this risk, this risk,
and now all of a sudden, James Cook is in
(05:29):
the third round, Like, well, thank you.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
You baked in all the risk.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I can now just take him in the third round
and potentially still get that round one value that we
just saw last year. Even if you chop off four
or five touchdowns, he's still going to be producing as
a top six to seven running back.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
So I get it.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
The yards aren't enormous and it is a lot of
touchdown reliance, and Josh Allen's going to take his, but
he took his last year and he was fine, So
I'm not saying he's going to repeat and have mid
teen touchdowns. But you've now baked in so much risk
that I'm willing to say I'm in on James Cook
in the third round.
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Speaker 2 (06:22):
All right, let's go to round four.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
This is another one where there's a lot of consensus
amongst the Fantasy Pros crew and also somebody that we
talked about in a little more detail with Debro earlier
this week.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah, and I wanted to echo this one. I don't
want to repeat too many players from that show, but
I wanted to echo because I have come around on this.
This is coming from somebody that just a month ago
wasn't so sure about Kenneth Walker, because I was wondering
if we were going to see like a Steelers tight
backfield with Sharbonay being involved in the Jaalin Warren situation,
and then Michael Seanduger covers the Seahawks for the Athletic
I was about to call us the athletes, the athletic.
(06:53):
I hit him up and I was like, hey, you're
close to the team. Answer the question, is it the
timeshare or is he the clear lead? And he said
nine as a bell cow. I'm like, oh, okay, I'm
moving him up. I'm giving him that workload. I'm giving
him near eighteen plus touches a game. And that puts
Kenneth Walker as It shocked me even because even was like, hey,
I'll buy in. I was not expecting him to jump
(07:14):
all the way to RB twelve overall for me, So
to get him in the fourth, do it while you can,
because I have a feeling he's going to climb into
the third and I think his name should be to
go back to James Cook. I would take Walker before Cook,
despite the fact you can get him later.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, he is.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
In the late thirties right now, so like overall, so
definitely a fourth round pick in terms of the ECR ranking.
I don't think that'll last either, Like you should be
very comfortable, don't see this and go oh, I have
to wait to the fourth to take him. See this
is if I'm picking the back half of the third
or maybe even earlier than that, Like be very willing
to take him. We like Kenneth Walker a lot, and
(07:51):
if he's healthy, there's just no way he's not outperforming.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
This spot in rankings. There's just no way.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So to me, it's the only question there is health,
and I'm you know, everybody is health questions, right, It's football.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Everybody can get hurt. So I wouldn't take the swing
of the guy.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
That is going to be a bell cow and could
be a league winner from the fourth route.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I'll take that every time.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
So it's funny because looking at that rounds three and four,
and then you also have a running back around five.
People often think of this as kind of like the
RB dead zone.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Dead zone.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
There's a lot of running backs that look pretty enticely here.
And I agree with you with the guy you're about
to talk about for round five too.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Yeah, and this one I would almost guarantee is not
going to stay in round five. This is and this
was before the eye injury to Naja Harris, which, hey,
can we.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Stop playing with fireworks football players? Did JPP teach us nothing?
Just leave them alone.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Let somebody else do it. But Amaron Hampton and this is,
like I do believe, similar to the Bijeon Jamiir Gibbs
draft that Ameron Hampton should have been thought closer to
Ashton Genty than a lot of people gave him credit for.
Like everybody put a clear gap. And I'm not saying
I wouldn't take Genty over Hampton ten times out of ten,
but I think that gap should have been a lot
(08:57):
more narrow, like the Bejeon Gibbs situation, where say that
given the teams and if they saw I think this
is the risk if they saw similar workloads, the risks
being that Hampton doesn't see Genti's workload. That Hampton could
have the better season, especially on the Chargers, and so
that kind of upside in the fact that Naje Harris already.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Had that it was a one year deal.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I kind of I think most people and excluding myself,
assumed that we would see kind of a split to
see the season. It would kind of grow to Hampton's
role as the season progressed. But now you're opening the
door for him to show what he can do in
the preseason and everything, and then Naje Harris doesn't necessarily
get on the field that much, and all of a sudden,
you are talking about Hampton getting seventeen eighteen twenty touches
a game. This is not going to last. Get it
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while you can. And I would even put him in
round four. I would still take them. I wouldn't be
afraid of taking them. Possibly even if you said this
earlier and I wanted to represent it, if you were
like pick three to eleven, you're like, well I have
to wait round four. No you don't, because you want
to make sure you get them. I want to be
even afraid of Hampton as like the three to eleven pick.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Do you get worried at all with Hampton? And like,
I think you're that he is going to go higher
than this. The helium will be there, But do you
think there is any cost for concern? Just that Greg Groman,
as much as he likes running, doesn't typically have the
belcow we just talked about Tennis Walker. I think I
think mark Ingram that first year in Baltimore is like
the most carries that any running back's gotten under Roman.
(10:18):
And even that was like a sowhat split backfield. Like obvious,
the quarterback was part of that running game too, so
it's a little bit different. But maybe he hasn't had
a running back on the level of Maryon Hampton. I
really like him as a prospect, but is that in
the back of your mind at all one.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Hundred and especially because it's a rookie and he hasn't
had a prospect like him, but also the Roman like, hey,
let's just keep and that's why I thought Naje Harris
would be more involved. But I think, like I said,
this is opening the door from the split starting to
go back to the Steelers in like a fifty five
to forty five, where I think the split will be
more like sixty forty and Hampton similar to Trevian Henderson,
who I keep bringing up. I don't think Hampton needs
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twenty touches a game to put up top twenty running
back value.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Let's go to your number six, well not your number six,
you're around six round six.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, this is gal. This is similar to James Cook.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I wasn't on Jayalen Wattle a little while ago, but
now that the hesitancies and other names kind of getting
pushed in front of him in ADP like Wattle in
the sixth I'm okay with and I get frustrated with
these kind of leg injuries that are recurring, especially tissue
injuries and the same leg. And it's getting risky with
Jalen Wattle at this point, including the risk with two
of the hell, the risk with this entire offense, honestly
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up and down the line. But if Wattle is healthy,
we still are talking about somebody who was considered and
should still be considered in the conversation with a Dvante
Smith and Jamison william as these twos who can put
up top twenty values. So now that he's been kind
of discounted a little bit to the sixth round, I'm
going to buy Jalen Wattle on the six where I
wasn't probably about two months ago.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I feel like I have been getting a lot of Wattle,
and I haven't been a great This isn't like the
running backs we just talked about where it's like take
him around early to make sure you get him. It's
just where he's been going. I've been very comfortable with
the I'll buy low on it. I liked him a
lot going into the last couple of seasons, just because
it didn't pan out for a variety of reasons. Yeah,
I think there's a chance tier Kill takes step back
this year, and there's a real opportunity here, like obviously
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Johnny Smith gone. So it is everything you talk about
with the Dolphins offense.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
There is risk associated with.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
It, but you can paint a fun picture of the
upside and I think that Costs Waddle is a perfectly
reasonable pick here. I do want to let everybody know
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Round seven.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
And this is gonna be your gut on this one
if you want to play this risk, because this is
coming out at the worst timing. News wise, is that
Chris Godwin had a second procedure and now the positive
spins is just a clean up. And not to say
like my wife is anything like an NFL player, but
she had a clean up on her ankle and she
was fine.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
A few weeks and she had.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
The tendon repaired and the scar tissue taken out. Like
I'm just saying, if she's not even an athlete and
she was fine, it's my point. So like I'm not
too scared by this, but if people want to avoid it, understand.
But you're getting Chris Godwin the seventh round. You're getting
Chris Godwin. He was a top three wide receiver before
he got hurt. You're getting Chris Godwin who showed last
year with that performance that he was a little bit
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better stylistically with Baker Mayfield and Mike Evans is still
the touchdown guy.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
But Mike Evans We've been waiting for him to.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Drop off for how long now, But still being point,
even if he doesn't, this duo is still god Wins
slightly ahead inconsistency wise.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
And what Baker does than Mike Evans.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Obviously the touchdown upside with Evans. But in the seventh round,
I'm willing to gamble because I still think and I
still would take a healthy healthy is the question Chris
Godwin over Mike Evans. And I know people point to
the ABUCA thing. I think that was more looking to
next year that Mike Evans might finally be done. The
contract and whether you want to go either way with
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it my positive spin on it. You could go negative too.
Deebro brought it up. You and I were tall come
out after a show and Debro is like, well, maybe
that was the way they got him to stay is
guaranteeing money and other teams didn't want to. But I
go to the contract and the fact there's zero injury
claws in there, which makes me just kind of say,
if they were at all concerned, once you put something
in there, again, you're not taking him in the fourth,
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You're not taking them in the fifth, You're not taking
him in the sixth. You're getting Chris Godwin the seventh round,
who could start on your bench depending on your roster,
and then you just get the upside what he is
one hundred percent, And that's why I'm going to do it.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
The cost is a really important factor here. Godwin is
the type of player I tend to avoid. I'd rather
get the guy the year after the year after the injury.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I mean, just.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Injuries will find you, right, this is football.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Your team is going to get hit with injuries at
some point, So why start off with the guy that
has the injury question marks already. But round seven for
a guy that was the best receiver in fantasy before
he got hurt last year, you're getting a discount. Maybe
it's not a massive discount, but it is a legitimate
discount enough so that I do think it's a good pick.
Even if I went into draft season expecting to not
(15:03):
be interested in Chris Godwin, if he's in round seven,
I'll be a lot more interested than where I really
kind of expected him to be with some of the
offseason talk.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Let's go to round eight. Who do you have here?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, gonna go quarterback. Finally, Justin Fields.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Let's actually sorry to cut you off.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Let's move rounds eight and nine together because you have
quarterbacks back to back.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yes, I do, I do. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
So obviously to what you said earlier, this is not
my perfect draft because I would not be going quarterback
quarterback right, not go do it? But Justin Fields and
Dak Prescott for different reasons. Obviously, I do not think
Justin Fields is going to be on the bench unless
he's hurt. The just did not bring him in. This
isn't like, oh my god, he might lose the job
if he has three rough games. But you know I've
said this to you before. I said it on Pat
(15:43):
Mayo's show. I don't know how many times I have
to say it. I don't need justin fields to be
a good passer, like I don't. But the thing is,
he's better than Anthony Richardson. He's better than some other
quarterbacks because I just need him to be okay as
a passer, which is what he was when he was
QB six over and in points per game because he
ran for eleven hundred yards. But I also don't even
need to run for eleven hundred, just nine hundred and
(16:06):
justin fields. Being justin fields and throwing for twenty five
hundred yards and eighteen touchdowns, guess what you're gonna be
a top ten quarterback. Daniel Jones did it with seven
hundred yards and seven rushing touchdowns, throwing fifteen touchdowns in
sixteen games. I pulled that up all the time because
that's actually when I somewhat still cared about the Giants.
But justin fields, I'm going to hammer in the eighth.
I would even take him the seventh if actually cost wise,
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I could take fields in the seventh and still get
Godwin in the eighth.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I just don't know if he'll fall that far. I
would do that.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
That's how willing and I am to go in on fields.
And then if you don't get fields, if you don't
get a top tier quarterback. I think Dak Prescott's a
great one to chase slate, similar to Jared Golf last year,
where all we do is need him to be healthy. Now,
Dak looked the worst he's looked probably his entire career
last year. On top of it, but was that the
injury factoring in was that it was Ceedee Lamb and
nobody else to throw to. He now has George Pickens.
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He has a serious threat as a second option. Finally,
again like Brandon Cooks when he was actually playing well.
And I think a healthy Seed Lamb, a healthy George Picken,
a healthy Dak Prescott, and you could be talking about
it has to do most of it with his arm.
But we've already seen Dak Prescott total five thousand yards
passing and rushing and well approaching forty total touchdowns between
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those two aspects, even a Jared Golf like season, and
he's going to be a top six seven quarterback.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
The last two fully healthy seasons Dak Prescott has had.
He has been QB seven and QB three like there,
even without the rushing being a significant part of his game,
there is real passing driven upside here. So like right
now he's QB thirteen. I've seen him going like well
below that, honestly because somebody wants the upside of like
a may Or Stroud or whoever. Like I he's consensus
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right with QB thirteen, he goes lower than that often.
I think he is a great target if you were
waiting on quarterback, or if you're in a league where
it makes sense to have a high end backup he is.
He's a great call in that regard.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Fields. Also, I agree with you in that case, I.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Think he is a little more off because everybody knows the
running and like he should be going in the top
ten quarterbacks, Like the running is a chief code, and
unlike past years with the fields, we are really confident,
assuming health, he's going to be the.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Starter for the year.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So I yeah, these are two great picks, like you said,
for very different reasons between I'm totally on board with
both of them. Last player here in the top ten
Round ten, who do you have.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Yeah, the round ten is the thing. Cooper Cup has
not looked good the past year and a half. I mean,
let's be on it. Last year, just focus on it,
and it looked good. Wasn't separating well anymore. It wasn't
the Cooper Cup. We knew he's been battling injuries. Guess what,
You can put Cooper Cup on your bench and if
he looks like trash the first two weeks, you can
move on because you're not drafting him as a starter anymore.
(18:43):
You're not even drafting him as a top forty forty
five wide receiver anymore. You're getting Cooper Cup going to
the Seahawks with a revitalized, hopefully offense with Kubiak opening
things up. We also went deeper into that on that
other show with Debro when I talked about JSN.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
But he's going to open things up.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
And even if I'm wrong, which was Deebro was saying,
what if jas En is the short one, a Cup
ends up being better outside at this stage of his
career like he was last year, Well that's even better
for Cup because go back to a lave and shihied
in Kubiak's offense and breaking open downfield. I think Cup
is basically a free top twenty five upside pick. Do
I think he get Like if you just told me
(19:21):
ten times out of ten, how many times does he
hit it this year at this point of Cup's career,
I'd say three or four. I don't think this is
a definite smashing. You need to get him all your teams.
But at this point of drafts, round ten, I'm not
drafting somebody who I think can be wide receiver forty four.
I want you to either have top twenty upside or
you're not on my bench, because that's the league winners.
At this point, these are guys on your bench. You
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have the top twenty twenty five upside, and if Cooper
Cup is even a hair of what he was two
years ago, you're gonna get that in this offense.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I was kind of grossed out by this pick when
I saw you put it in the sheet, but.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
I ten, I was gonna say.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I went and looked at who, well, who else is
available at around there? There's around eleven that I like,
but in ec me in round nine that I like
like just before this stretch, but once you get to
round ten, like it is pretty gross so there's not like,
what am I gonna take Brandon I you can stay
like coming off the injury or Rashad White.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
These are some of the names that.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Are near Cooper Cup. So so it's a five. I
withdraw my initial discuss.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
See, yeah, Rashat White or Cooper Cup. I'm taking Cooper Cup.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, that's that's very fair.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Give me two just bonus players anywhere outside the top
ten rounds that you're interested in.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Ooh, top ten.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
We briefly touched on his name, so I'll go a
little bit more. Jayden Blue. I think that this is
you and I have talked about being in on Javonte Williams,
but I think at cost for both, you can get
Williams and Blue, and then hopefully you get whoever ends
up being the lead. If Williams doesn't look anything like
he was before that injury, is still taking his toll.
Blue in a Warren type of fourteen to fifteen touches
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a game kind of range, can have RB two value.
I don't think he'll be in RB one just because
he's not built for it, but I think that's a
great value there. And then this is it's interesting. I say,
you know the kenth Walker. I've changed my tunes and
stuff like that. I've been in on saying like, let's
not just toss away Travis Etn is like never being
able to do anything again. But post draft, the excitement
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and the hype that people were going, I mean, diving
off the hills to go get base Shall Tuton, like
you have to get I'm the most explosive player ever.
He's gonna be you know, Bucky Irving in this offense,
and I'm like, dude, like chill out. Could be a
full blown committee. Well as you and I are sitting
here looking he's going in the one thirties like I
was out on toot and it's saying like, oh, I
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don't want to take Tooton in like the eighth round
because everybody's going nuts. But if you're gonna tell me
I can still get double digit rounds and get base
shall Tuton, I would consider him in round ten with
Cooper Cup. It was the problem was that post draft
excitement was just getting out of hand. But it's a
warranted cost.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Now are you do You feel the same way I do,
which is that frankly, I'd be willing to take anybody
in the Jaguars back that even Tank Bigsby, like if
they're going late enough, if we're talking and like outside
the top ten rounds, like I want to take a
swing on this backfield. We know what Liam cohane can
do with with a running game. We don't know that
Basehall Tuton is Gonn is going to be the Bucky
Irving right, like he had the fumble stuff early on
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in the OTAs and like clearly is a somewhat limited player.
Everybody in this backfield has red flags. Of course, that's
why they're all going as late as they are. But
I just want to take the late swing. And typically
ETN is gonna go ahead of the other too, at
least at this point in the rankings. So I'm willing
to take Tank or Tooting if they're outside of the
top ten rounds. You just take a shot on this backfield.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Like this is why, like I go back to that,
I want to take the shots, Like I don't want
Michael Wilson on my team. Like and Michael Wilson's like okay, cool,
maybe he breaks out twice, Darius Slaton maybe has one
good game. You can go down the list, like all
these kind of wide receivers that people just end up
drafting and it's like why, what's it? Like Antonio Gibson, like,
what are you gonna draft the third running back on
a team? For the hell Ramandre Stevenson, Like what we
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just saw the best case scenario for him last year? Cool,
you got an RB three and that he's going way earlier.
I'm just saying, once you hit your bench those first
two players, we did it on the Advice Show. One
of those first two players probably need to get your lineup,
but those last four spots should essentially be lottery tickets.
And what's a lottery ticket somebody with top twenty twenty
five upside, not somebody who's gonna finish wide receiver forty
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three like they no, never gonna be on my team.
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Speaker 3 (23:49):
I'll be on August seventh.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Check that that. Yeah, Jake will be on there.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Well. I got a bunch of people on there, so
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Speaker 4 (23:56):
Jake.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Thanks for giving us your top targets throughout the top
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Fantasy Pros.
Hello, everybody, Welcome in to Fantasy Pros. I am Ryan,
warmly joined by Jake Seeley from The Athletic. Today we
are talking about Jake's top targets in every round.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well, I shouldn't say every round.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
We're talking about his top targets in the top ten
rounds of fantasy drafts.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Feels like every round.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
But obviously, well there will be going you know, a
few rounds longer in most drafts. There, but we'll be
talking about his top targets in the first ten rounds
of every draft. And we're gonna go through. There's no
real position here, It's just who you like in every round.
This is not to be clear building a team.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You're not saying like this is my perfect draft.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
It's in a vacuum, irrespective of who I've gotten in
previous rounds. These are the names I am targeting in
these rounds. Fantasypros dot Com slash rankings. Everybody can check
out ECR, you know kind of those half PPR rankings.
See roughly where those guys are going. We'll move quickly here.
Jake looks start at the very top. Who's your top
target in round one?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Everybody?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I almost put Christ McCaffrey again. I know we've talked
about him a few times, but I'm gonna say a
mom ron Saint Brown only because it seems to he's
a little bit of pushback lately. And I know a
lot of the concerns are the Ben Johnson leaving and
what is the Morton gonna do? And I know they
said they're doing a little bit of changes, but I
just think it's strange of one of the most consistent
wide receivers wide receiver three in points per game and
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overall two years ago, wide receiver seven in points per
game and top five again last year. And maybe people
want to say, well, wide receiver seven, you shouldn't be
going in the first round.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
But I feel like it's the floor I saw.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I think you've seen a little bit different with Saint
Brown last year with some of the stuff being shorter,
and you know, Jered Goff had this huge passing season
and the touchdowns might not be there.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
GET like, it seems like a lot offs.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
For somebody who is clearly the number one focal point
in this passing game, even with the emergence of Jameis
and Williams last year, that I'm taking those targets. I'm
taking that consistency and even if he finishes between last
year and the year before, that would still put him
inside the top five with what I think is one
of the safest floors. You tell me who's more risky,
and I love Pooka Nakua, but who's more risky? Between
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Nikoua and Saint Brown, there's more risk with Niakua. Look
if would you be shocked if he was the number
two alongside Adams this year just because of how good
Adam still is.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
No, I would not be shocked, and let let alone
the injury history. We think.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I like Puka, I think when you look at the
other guys in this because I am somebody who has
kind of been fading him, like not all the way
out of the first round. But there's just other names
in the first round that I've been kind of drawn to,
and every single one of them it's the upside case.
It's not the floor case. Pukahs the upside case, Malik
Neighbors ups Nico Collins upside case, Asha Genty upside case,
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like Christian McCaffrey upside case. None of them is the
safety case. So I think it's a it's a really
fair point, and it's one of those things where, like
I feel the way I draft and I try to
aim for upside, I won't be taking there will be
somebody else who will take Amara ahead of me. But
at the end of the season, I think when we
look at the rankings and who has outperformed whom like,
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I am pretty confident Amora Saint Brown will be very
near the top of that list. So I think it's
it's one of it's it feels weird to call him
a boring play because he's not old, it's been for
a while, but it almost kind of feels like that
a less boring pick and a guy who is also
a big upside guy.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Is he you have in round two?
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Yeah, and I wouldn't be afraid of taking him at
the end of round one. That's Drake London and we've
done another show. It was including deebra on that one,
and I said that a lot of people are like, well,
we hope Pennox can be blank, and my pushback was like,
I don't even need Pennox to be blank. If Pennix
is just the bad version of Kirk Cousins from last
year and plays the entire season as such, that's basically
about a four thousand yard, twenty three twenty four touchdown
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season that volume, even if it's not the forty percent
we saw at the end of the year, and it's
just thirty percent, which it should be. He's Drake London
and this offense centers around him and as the number
one option with fewer threats than Saint Brown has. Honestly,
if you want to go down that road too, Drake
London should be a lock for the top ten. So
I am hammering every time I see him in the
second round, and I think you can make a case
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for him at the end of the first taking him
in the names of Brown, Brian Thomas, Malik neighbors, like,
I think his name deserves to be there, not in
the next group with like the AJ Browns and Jackson
Smith and Jigbos of the world.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
And you did say on that show with Deebro, which
everybody should go check out if they want to hear
kind of a deeper dive on London. I said, are
you taking him in kind of that second round or
more of the third and you were like, neither, I'm
taking him in the first. He's not getting past the
top ten picks and drafts with Jake Seely. So, uh yeah,
definitely somebody that you are very excited about it if you
can get him in the second round, which I think
you can in most leagues. Like you wouldn't want to
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look too late, depends on where you're picking, but I
think that'll be the case in most leagues.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
So that's a that's a good call here.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
And this is one that like we have a lot
of consensus on here, a Fantasy pros like debro Erickson degrees.
I agree. We are very heavy on Drake London this year.
Let's go to a running back here in round three.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah, it's funny, similar to Saint Brown, this running back
is getting a lot of pushback. And we've you and
I we've been on episodes where people are like touchdown regression.
Everything worked perfectly last year, but it's gone so far
that we went from course correcting of like late, Let's
not get too crazy on James Cook last year. Let's
not call him top five, top six running back. There
should be like touchdown regression anyway, just from any running
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back in general. To repeat what he did is kind
of tough to put into a guarantee. And I know
people will say, well, it's the Bills offense and he
should be able to do it again, but there's risk,
like the contract and they use it. But anyway, I'm
bringing all that up to say is like there's been
so much of well, James Cook can't do it again.
James Cook's got this risk, this risk, this risk, this risk,
and now all of a sudden, James Cook is in
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the third round, Like, well, thank you.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
You baked in all the risk.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I can now just take him in the third round
and potentially still get that round one value that we
just saw last year. Even if you chop off four
or five touchdowns, he's still going to be producing as
a top six to seven running back.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
So I get it.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
The yards aren't enormous and it is a lot of
touchdown reliance, and Josh Allen's going to take his, but
he took his last year and he was fine, So
I'm not saying he's going to repeat and have mid
teen touchdowns. But you've now baked in so much risk
that I'm willing to say I'm in on James Cook
in the third round.
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Speaker 2 (06:22):
All right, let's go to round four.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
This is another one where there's a lot of consensus
amongst the Fantasy Pros crew and also somebody that we
talked about in a little more detail with Debro earlier
this week.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah, and I wanted to echo this one. I don't
want to repeat too many players from that show, but
I wanted to echo because I have come around on this.
This is coming from somebody that just a month ago
wasn't so sure about Kenneth Walker, because I was wondering
if we were going to see like a Steelers tight
backfield with Sharbonay being involved in the Jaalin Warren situation,
and then Michael Seanduger covers the Seahawks for the Athletic
I was about to call us the athletes, the athletic.
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I hit him up and I was like, hey, you're
close to the team. Answer the question, is it the
timeshare or is he the clear lead? And he said
nine as a bell cow. I'm like, oh, okay, I'm
moving him up. I'm giving him that workload. I'm giving
him near eighteen plus touches a game. And that puts
Kenneth Walker as It shocked me even because even was like, hey,
I'll buy in. I was not expecting him to jump
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all the way to RB twelve overall for me, So
to get him in the fourth, do it while you can,
because I have a feeling he's going to climb into
the third and I think his name should be to
go back to James Cook. I would take Walker before Cook,
despite the fact you can get him later.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, he is.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
In the late thirties right now, so like overall, so
definitely a fourth round pick in terms of the ECR ranking.
I don't think that'll last either, Like you should be
very comfortable, don't see this and go oh, I have
to wait to the fourth to take him. See this
is if I'm picking the back half of the third
or maybe even earlier than that, Like be very willing
to take him. We like Kenneth Walker a lot, and
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if he's healthy, there's just no way he's not outperforming.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
This spot in rankings. There's just no way.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So to me, it's the only question there is health,
and I'm you know, everybody is health questions, right, It's football.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Everybody can get hurt. So I wouldn't take the swing
of the guy.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
That is going to be a bell cow and could
be a league winner from the fourth route.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I'll take that every time.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
So it's funny because looking at that rounds three and four,
and then you also have a running back around five.
People often think of this as kind of like the
RB dead zone.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Dead zone.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
There's a lot of running backs that look pretty enticely here.
And I agree with you with the guy you're about
to talk about for round five too.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Yeah, and this one I would almost guarantee is not
going to stay in round five. This is and this
was before the eye injury to Naja Harris, which, hey,
can we.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Stop playing with fireworks football players? Did JPP teach us nothing?
Just leave them alone.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Let somebody else do it. But Amaron Hampton and this is,
like I do believe, similar to the Bijeon Jamiir Gibbs
draft that Ameron Hampton should have been thought closer to
Ashton Genty than a lot of people gave him credit for.
Like everybody put a clear gap. And I'm not saying
I wouldn't take Genty over Hampton ten times out of ten,
but I think that gap should have been a lot
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more narrow, like the Bejeon Gibbs situation, where say that
given the teams and if they saw I think this
is the risk if they saw similar workloads, the risks
being that Hampton doesn't see Genti's workload. That Hampton could
have the better season, especially on the Chargers, and so
that kind of upside in the fact that Naje Harris already.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Had that it was a one year deal.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I kind of I think most people and excluding myself,
assumed that we would see kind of a split to
see the season. It would kind of grow to Hampton's
role as the season progressed. But now you're opening the
door for him to show what he can do in
the preseason and everything, and then Naje Harris doesn't necessarily
get on the field that much, and all of a sudden,
you are talking about Hampton getting seventeen eighteen twenty touches
a game. This is not going to last. Get it
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while you can. And I would even put him in
round four. I would still take them. I wouldn't be
afraid of taking them. Possibly even if you said this
earlier and I wanted to represent it, if you were
like pick three to eleven, you're like, well I have
to wait round four. No you don't, because you want
to make sure you get them. I want to be
even afraid of Hampton as like the three to eleven pick.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Do you get worried at all with Hampton? And like,
I think you're that he is going to go higher
than this. The helium will be there, But do you
think there is any cost for concern? Just that Greg Groman,
as much as he likes running, doesn't typically have the
belcow we just talked about Tennis Walker. I think I
think mark Ingram that first year in Baltimore is like
the most carries that any running back's gotten under Roman.
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And even that was like a sowhat split backfield. Like obvious,
the quarterback was part of that running game too, so
it's a little bit different. But maybe he hasn't had
a running back on the level of Maryon Hampton. I
really like him as a prospect, but is that in
the back of your mind at all one.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Hundred and especially because it's a rookie and he hasn't
had a prospect like him, but also the Roman like, hey,
let's just keep and that's why I thought Naje Harris
would be more involved. But I think, like I said,
this is opening the door from the split starting to
go back to the Steelers in like a fifty five
to forty five, where I think the split will be
more like sixty forty and Hampton similar to Trevian Henderson,
who I keep bringing up. I don't think Hampton needs
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twenty touches a game to put up top twenty running
back value.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Let's go to your number six, well not your number six,
you're around six round six.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, this is gal. This is similar to James Cook.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I wasn't on Jayalen Wattle a little while ago, but
now that the hesitancies and other names kind of getting
pushed in front of him in ADP like Wattle in
the sixth I'm okay with and I get frustrated with
these kind of leg injuries that are recurring, especially tissue
injuries and the same leg. And it's getting risky with
Jalen Wattle at this point, including the risk with two
of the hell, the risk with this entire offense, honestly
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up and down the line. But if Wattle is healthy,
we still are talking about somebody who was considered and
should still be considered in the conversation with a Dvante
Smith and Jamison william as these twos who can put
up top twenty values. So now that he's been kind
of discounted a little bit to the sixth round, I'm
going to buy Jalen Wattle on the six where I
wasn't probably about two months ago.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I feel like I have been getting a lot of Wattle,
and I haven't been a great This isn't like the
running backs we just talked about where it's like take
him around early to make sure you get him. It's
just where he's been going. I've been very comfortable with
the I'll buy low on it. I liked him a
lot going into the last couple of seasons, just because
it didn't pan out for a variety of reasons. Yeah,
I think there's a chance tier Kill takes step back
this year, and there's a real opportunity here, like obviously
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Johnny Smith gone. So it is everything you talk about
with the Dolphins offense.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
There is risk associated with.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
It, but you can paint a fun picture of the
upside and I think that Costs Waddle is a perfectly
reasonable pick here. I do want to let everybody know
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Round seven.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
And this is gonna be your gut on this one
if you want to play this risk, because this is
coming out at the worst timing. News wise, is that
Chris Godwin had a second procedure and now the positive
spins is just a clean up. And not to say
like my wife is anything like an NFL player, but
she had a clean up on her ankle and she
was fine.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
A few weeks and she had.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
The tendon repaired and the scar tissue taken out. Like
I'm just saying, if she's not even an athlete and
she was fine, it's my point. So like I'm not
too scared by this, but if people want to avoid it, understand.
But you're getting Chris Godwin the seventh round. You're getting
Chris Godwin. He was a top three wide receiver before
he got hurt. You're getting Chris Godwin who showed last
year with that performance that he was a little bit
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better stylistically with Baker Mayfield and Mike Evans is still
the touchdown guy.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
But Mike Evans We've been waiting for him to.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Drop off for how long now, But still being point,
even if he doesn't, this duo is still god Wins
slightly ahead inconsistency wise.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
And what Baker does than Mike Evans.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Obviously the touchdown upside with Evans. But in the seventh round,
I'm willing to gamble because I still think and I
still would take a healthy healthy is the question Chris
Godwin over Mike Evans. And I know people point to
the ABUCA thing. I think that was more looking to
next year that Mike Evans might finally be done. The
contract and whether you want to go either way with
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it my positive spin on it. You could go negative too.
Deebro brought it up. You and I were tall come
out after a show and Debro is like, well, maybe
that was the way they got him to stay is
guaranteeing money and other teams didn't want to. But I
go to the contract and the fact there's zero injury
claws in there, which makes me just kind of say,
if they were at all concerned, once you put something
in there, again, you're not taking him in the fourth,
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You're not taking them in the fifth, You're not taking
him in the sixth. You're getting Chris Godwin the seventh round,
who could start on your bench depending on your roster,
and then you just get the upside what he is
one hundred percent, And that's why I'm going to do it.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
The cost is a really important factor here. Godwin is
the type of player I tend to avoid. I'd rather
get the guy the year after the year after the injury.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I mean, just.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Injuries will find you, right, this is football.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Your team is going to get hit with injuries at
some point, So why start off with the guy that
has the injury question marks already. But round seven for
a guy that was the best receiver in fantasy before
he got hurt last year, you're getting a discount. Maybe
it's not a massive discount, but it is a legitimate
discount enough so that I do think it's a good pick.
Even if I went into draft season expecting to not
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be interested in Chris Godwin, if he's in round seven,
I'll be a lot more interested than where I really
kind of expected him to be with some of the
offseason talk.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Let's go to round eight. Who do you have here?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, gonna go quarterback. Finally, Justin Fields.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Let's actually sorry to cut you off.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Let's move rounds eight and nine together because you have
quarterbacks back to back.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yes, I do, I do. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
So obviously to what you said earlier, this is not
my perfect draft because I would not be going quarterback
quarterback right, not go do it? But Justin Fields and
Dak Prescott for different reasons. Obviously, I do not think
Justin Fields is going to be on the bench unless
he's hurt. The just did not bring him in. This
isn't like, oh my god, he might lose the job
if he has three rough games. But you know I've
said this to you before. I said it on Pat
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Mayo's show. I don't know how many times I have
to say it. I don't need justin fields to be
a good passer, like I don't. But the thing is,
he's better than Anthony Richardson. He's better than some other
quarterbacks because I just need him to be okay as
a passer, which is what he was when he was
QB six over and in points per game because he
ran for eleven hundred yards. But I also don't even
need to run for eleven hundred, just nine hundred and
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justin fields. Being justin fields and throwing for twenty five
hundred yards and eighteen touchdowns, guess what you're gonna be
a top ten quarterback. Daniel Jones did it with seven
hundred yards and seven rushing touchdowns, throwing fifteen touchdowns in
sixteen games. I pulled that up all the time because
that's actually when I somewhat still cared about the Giants.
But justin fields, I'm going to hammer in the eighth.
I would even take him the seventh if actually cost wise,
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I could take fields in the seventh and still get
Godwin in the eighth.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I just don't know if he'll fall that far. I
would do that.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
That's how willing and I am to go in on fields.
And then if you don't get fields, if you don't
get a top tier quarterback. I think Dak Prescott's a
great one to chase slate, similar to Jared Golf last year,
where all we do is need him to be healthy. Now,
Dak looked the worst he's looked probably his entire career
last year. On top of it, but was that the
injury factoring in was that it was Ceedee Lamb and
nobody else to throw to. He now has George Pickens.
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He has a serious threat as a second option. Finally,
again like Brandon Cooks when he was actually playing well.
And I think a healthy Seed Lamb, a healthy George Picken,
a healthy Dak Prescott, and you could be talking about
it has to do most of it with his arm.
But we've already seen Dak Prescott total five thousand yards
passing and rushing and well approaching forty total touchdowns between
(17:17):
those two aspects, even a Jared Golf like season, and
he's going to be a top six seven quarterback.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
The last two fully healthy seasons Dak Prescott has had.
He has been QB seven and QB three like there,
even without the rushing being a significant part of his game,
there is real passing driven upside here. So like right
now he's QB thirteen. I've seen him going like well
below that, honestly because somebody wants the upside of like
a may Or Stroud or whoever. Like I he's consensus
(17:45):
right with QB thirteen, he goes lower than that often.
I think he is a great target if you were
waiting on quarterback, or if you're in a league where
it makes sense to have a high end backup he is.
He's a great call in that regard.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Fields. Also, I agree with you in that case, I.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Think he is a little more off because everybody knows the
running and like he should be going in the top
ten quarterbacks, Like the running is a chief code, and
unlike past years with the fields, we are really confident,
assuming health, he's going to be the.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Starter for the year.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So I yeah, these are two great picks, like you said,
for very different reasons between I'm totally on board with
both of them. Last player here in the top ten
Round ten, who do you have.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Yeah, the round ten is the thing. Cooper Cup has
not looked good the past year and a half. I mean,
let's be on it. Last year, just focus on it,
and it looked good. Wasn't separating well anymore. It wasn't
the Cooper Cup. We knew he's been battling injuries. Guess what,
You can put Cooper Cup on your bench and if
he looks like trash the first two weeks, you can
move on because you're not drafting him as a starter anymore.
(18:43):
You're not even drafting him as a top forty forty
five wide receiver anymore. You're getting Cooper Cup going to
the Seahawks with a revitalized, hopefully offense with Kubiak opening
things up. We also went deeper into that on that
other show with Debro when I talked about JSN.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
But he's going to open things up.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
And even if I'm wrong, which was Deebro was saying,
what if jas En is the short one, a Cup
ends up being better outside at this stage of his
career like he was last year, Well that's even better
for Cup because go back to a lave and shihied
in Kubiak's offense and breaking open downfield. I think Cup
is basically a free top twenty five upside pick. Do
I think he get Like if you just told me
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ten times out of ten, how many times does he
hit it this year at this point of Cup's career,
I'd say three or four. I don't think this is
a definite smashing. You need to get him all your teams.
But at this point of drafts, round ten, I'm not
drafting somebody who I think can be wide receiver forty four.
I want you to either have top twenty upside or
you're not on my bench, because that's the league winners.
At this point, these are guys on your bench. You
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have the top twenty twenty five upside, and if Cooper
Cup is even a hair of what he was two
years ago, you're gonna get that in this offense.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I was kind of grossed out by this pick when
I saw you put it in the sheet, but.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
I ten, I was gonna say.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I went and looked at who, well, who else is
available at around there? There's around eleven that I like,
but in ec me in round nine that I like
like just before this stretch, but once you get to
round ten, like it is pretty gross so there's not like,
what am I gonna take Brandon I you can stay
like coming off the injury or Rashad White.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
These are some of the names that.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Are near Cooper Cup. So so it's a five. I
withdraw my initial discuss.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
See, yeah, Rashat White or Cooper Cup. I'm taking Cooper Cup.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, that's that's very fair.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Give me two just bonus players anywhere outside the top
ten rounds that you're interested in.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Ooh, top ten.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
We briefly touched on his name, so I'll go a
little bit more. Jayden Blue. I think that this is
you and I have talked about being in on Javonte Williams,
but I think at cost for both, you can get
Williams and Blue, and then hopefully you get whoever ends
up being the lead. If Williams doesn't look anything like
he was before that injury, is still taking his toll.
Blue in a Warren type of fourteen to fifteen touches
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a game kind of range, can have RB two value.
I don't think he'll be in RB one just because
he's not built for it, but I think that's a
great value there. And then this is it's interesting. I say,
you know the kenth Walker. I've changed my tunes and
stuff like that. I've been in on saying like, let's
not just toss away Travis Etn is like never being
able to do anything again. But post draft, the excitement
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and the hype that people were going, I mean, diving
off the hills to go get base Shall Tuton, like
you have to get I'm the most explosive player ever.
He's gonna be you know, Bucky Irving in this offense,
and I'm like, dude, like chill out. Could be a
full blown committee. Well as you and I are sitting
here looking he's going in the one thirties like I
was out on toot and it's saying like, oh, I
(21:34):
don't want to take Tooton in like the eighth round
because everybody's going nuts. But if you're gonna tell me
I can still get double digit rounds and get base
shall Tuton, I would consider him in round ten with
Cooper Cup. It was the problem was that post draft
excitement was just getting out of hand. But it's a
warranted cost.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Now are you do You feel the same way I do,
which is that frankly, I'd be willing to take anybody
in the Jaguars back that even Tank Bigsby, like if
they're going late enough, if we're talking and like outside
the top ten rounds, like I want to take a
swing on this backfield. We know what Liam cohane can
do with with a running game. We don't know that
Basehall Tuton is Gonn is going to be the Bucky
Irving right, like he had the fumble stuff early on
(22:10):
in the OTAs and like clearly is a somewhat limited player.
Everybody in this backfield has red flags. Of course, that's
why they're all going as late as they are. But
I just want to take the late swing. And typically
ETN is gonna go ahead of the other too, at
least at this point in the rankings. So I'm willing
to take Tank or Tooting if they're outside of the
top ten rounds. You just take a shot on this backfield.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Like this is why, like I go back to that,
I want to take the shots, Like I don't want
Michael Wilson on my team. Like and Michael Wilson's like okay, cool,
maybe he breaks out twice, Darius Slaton maybe has one
good game. You can go down the list, like all
these kind of wide receivers that people just end up
drafting and it's like why, what's it? Like Antonio Gibson, like,
what are you gonna draft the third running back on
a team? For the hell Ramandre Stevenson, Like what we
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just saw the best case scenario for him last year? Cool,
you got an RB three and that he's going way earlier.
I'm just saying, once you hit your bench those first
two players, we did it on the Advice Show. One
of those first two players probably need to get your lineup,
but those last four spots should essentially be lottery tickets.
And what's a lottery ticket somebody with top twenty twenty
five upside, not somebody who's gonna finish wide receiver forty
(23:17):
three like they no, never gonna be on my team.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
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Speaker 3 (23:49):
I'll be on August seventh.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Check that that. Yeah, Jake will be on there.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Well. I got a bunch of people on there, so
we'll have a lot of fun on Twitch this season
and hope everybody checks it out.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Jake.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Thanks for giving us your top targets throughout the top
ten drafts.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
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