FantasyPros - The Extra Point: Gearing Up For Playoffs, Tough Week 12 Decisions, and Chat Q&A (Ep. 1860) - The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Friends are welcome into Fantasy pros. This is the extra point.
We're going for two with Welsh and Ericson. We're in
the house with an studio audience or a discord audience,
if you want to call it like that. Some of
our best friends that have hands raised. It's a very
class orientation style. Everybody is being very appropriate raising their
hands will go one at a time. But we're gonna

(00:22):
bring you guys up. We're not going to just read
your questions. You guys are going to have to come
up and speak to us whatever it is that is
not about Thursday Night Football. We are going to be
talking to with our audience. Lots of start and sit
stuff Ericson. A lot of the news has been rolling
out through the week. The biggest piece of news today
we found out Joe Mixon will not be returning this season.
So wheels up to Woody Marks and we still wait

(00:45):
a few more critical injury pieces. But how are we doing, buddy?

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Doing good? Thanksgiving is next week, kind of hitting that
final leg of the race, the final stretch three weeks
left of the regular season and then the Fantasy football
playoffs or right around the corner. So look, I know
that this is the time of year where we start
to kind of overthink things, We start to dive into
kicker matchups when we have been doing it at all

(01:10):
this season. Don't change the process now. Continue to do
what you're doing. You're in a position to make the
playoffs or have a number one seed because you're doing
the right things. You're listening to the shows, you're making
the start sit write decisions, You're using the tools. Just
continue to trust the process and you'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Trust the process, get it done. Playoffs are almost here
and we're ready to roll with you guys. You guys
want to make sure that you are hanging out with
us in the future. You can do that right here
on the discord fantasypros dot Com slash chat two pm
Eastern every Thursday. That's where Ericson and I are right
here with our audience. So if you're listening on the podcast,

(01:48):
the plus is everybody that is in here gets to
hear it roughly a day before and ask their questions.
You can do the same. It's not even a premium feature,
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(02:09):
just get like one thousand more premium members and then
they all just flood Fitzi's discord like Fitzi's discord channel,
AMA channel. It's a beast and it would be it
would be just spectacular if he was just like what happened,
just flood him with it. But you can talk to
Fitzi with Bogs the third Tuesday of each month and

(02:30):
werman Fits on the first Tuesday of each month, as
they also do shows just like this. Let's roll it out.
Let's get to the people first person. He was in
the channel before either one of Ericson or myself were here.
He's the great and powerful Tenser Genders in the house
with the first one. What's up, Alla night? Well, what's up?

Speaker 4 (02:51):
I got three questions first, as a directed to our
forty nine ers resident expert Welsh. For some reason, I
have Pearsall and Juwan Jennings on the same team. Don't
ask me why. I assume are still rolling it with
Juwan Jennings since he's party's guy, and Pearsol is still
probably playing a little hurt.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
I have them both in the like mid to late
twenty ranks, so they're like wide receiver threes. Like, like
I said before, Jennings doesn't look explosive to me. He's
if he can get out the route, party's gonna throw
him four or five passes. There's some touchdown equity. I
don't know what the hell happened with Pearsol last week.
He played lots of routes, did not get the ball.

(03:35):
It's a good it's a good ish matchup this week.
I personally am putting Piarsal slightly over Jennings, but I
think Jennings is the safety net play and I might
be eating my words, but that's my thought. Erics had
any quick thoughts on Jennings versus Pearsall. Do you agree
that they're both like, you know, wide receiver two ish dudes.
I'm sorry, wide receiver threes because outside the top twenty four,

(03:56):
I said that incorrectly. I have them as like mid
to high wide receiver threes.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, I think that that's in the right range. I
think that because they both play on Monday night, you
get an idea of what you need. So usually I'm
always like I want to upside, don't care about floor.
But if you're going into your money that matchup you
need five points, just play Jennings.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Right yeah, yeah, exactly, safety and you.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Don't have to worry about okay, because eventually I think
we'll see kind of like Pearsaw retake that number one role,
and I understand like you want to try to capture
that before Pearsall has like what he's doing in the
start of the year. I kind of hope it comes
where like he has a good game and Jennings has
a good game, so you still play Jennings, but then
you can feel good about, Okay, Well, next week I'm

(04:37):
gonna play Peersal because right now, like I know you
like Pearsaw, I'm not are you like super confident, like
really bullish on Pearsls or is it like not like
if I'm not bullish, it's like I'll just put the
guy that's been the target leader over the last month
where he likes Jennings, and I kind of want Pearsal
to do a little bit more than last week before.
I Hey, I feel really confident about starting him, So yeah,

(04:59):
I would.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Just all right, what else you got? What else you got?

Speaker 6 (05:03):
All right?

Speaker 4 (05:04):
They have Drake London and Pennix is deceased, and Kirk
Cousins looks like he's deceased. I'm this This league doesn't
have a trade deadline, so I'm kind of wondering, like
should I just hold He's been so good? But I
don't know what the volume is gonna could Hirk if
you can't even throw him the ball?

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Like what do we want to do with London? London?

Speaker 6 (05:23):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, you hold man, You're not gonna what are you
gonna cut him? You said the trade deadline's gone, he's not.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
This league doesn't have a trade deadline, so I could
I can kind of hold it longer than usual in
trade before the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
I don't know. I tend to think regardless of Cousins,
I'm probably holding. I don't think anyone's gonna give you
the right equity on London. But I don't know. You
might feel different ericson you might There might be like
a mid wide receiver Twoman. Would you take Pearsol for him?
Are you that worried?

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Probably not. He's really good about ten.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
I might take tetor roa, but London's gonna like he
is when he's active, even with cousins like I still
think he's the dude. But I don't hate Tedorroa there.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
I think that you don't think there's any risk of
shutting him down with his this PCL thing.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
I don't think that doing receiver for receiver is the
right way way to do this deal. I think it's you.
You'd probably trade him for a running back, like that's
what I would do, Like I would trade for.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Chase Brown that I've got Chase Brown and the like
every league he placed me in the preseason Eric s.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Well then or just put him on the block, see
what happens. I mean, you gotta have someone to be
interested in him. Is a team ac manager interested in
Drake London or is that just a name you were
kind of like throwing out he could.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Be I I reached out to him earlier in the
year and he said he's only going to get rid
of TAMAC for a wide receiver one.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
So okay, I see, it depends on.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
You could trade. You could trade Drake, I mean Drake
London you could trade to a team that might not
make the playoffs. So that way, if he does go off,
he's not gonna hurt you because he's on a team
that is in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
So yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
The other other problem with this league is that's a
keeper league, so it's hard unless someone has two decent
players worth keeping, it's hard to get any upsodes.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
You can't trade keeper.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
If it's I actually would, I actually would do the
Team AC one. We don't know what this. This quarterback
situation is not solved in Atlanta. I mean it's not
great in her money either, but Team MAC is younger,
and I think that Team AC from what he's done
his rookie year, he looks like the next Drake London,
which kind of like his his rookie year is. So
it reminds me so much of Drake London's rookie year
where some amazing target share quarterback play is really really shoddy,

(07:27):
And that's really the Drake London's career up to this point.
So if you can turn back the clock, get a
guy that's three years younger, that doesn't have a PCL
injury and a quarterback coming off is like third torn
a c l uh. Yeah, So I would. I would. Yeah,
if it's keeper league, I would do TEAMAC for London.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Did you have one last quick one?

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Wee last quick one?

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Oh, not that quick. I guess I'm the first seed.
There's only one by so I'll probably get to buy.
I wanted to see what you thought, if anything needed
to be done with the roster. If it looks like
it'll be good, and I know Ericson you put out
the playoff matchups, and I have Judkins and Chase Brown,
which I think is supposed to be a good match
for the playoffs. But it's Josh Allen, Chase Brown, Judkins

(08:08):
and Javonte Williams. And then the receiver's worth mentioning our
London Amanra and Troy Franklin. And then my my high
ends like a revolving door of Kincaid or Jawan Johnson.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Trade a white running back for a wide receiver. Sounds
like the play. Yeah, yeah, I've put it out there.
See if go look for a running back hungry team,
try to get some more depth because you said Troy
Franklin was the third running back of Note. That's not note,
So that's what I would probably do. Yeah, let's do it.

(08:41):
Plumb Plumb is in the house.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
What's up, hey, boys, how you doing good?

Speaker 6 (08:48):
Good.

Speaker 7 (08:48):
Good.

Speaker 8 (08:48):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (08:49):
So I'm in a PPR Superflex. I have Caleb Williams
and Baker as my quarterbacks. I'm a little worried about
Baker's Sunday night matchup, so I'm thinking of maybe putting
a skill guy at my super flex instead. My best
options would be either quinchn or George Pickens. What do
you guys think about that?

Speaker 10 (09:08):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (09:08):
You have good options? Yeah, I was about to speak
for if you didn't watch the Quarterback Show, then you
don't know that Erickson is very very pro Baker this week.
But also it's a super flex. It's like hard for
position players, even on like mid weeks, to take over
a quarterback. George Pickens got the Eagles this week. He'd

(09:29):
be a phenomenal like option if you were forced into it.
But I just don't see how you don't go regardless
of the matchup with Baker, what he's doing on the ground,
you still got the receivers you might have Bucky back. Like,
I just I can't not play a viable quarterback in
super flex for what are decent options but not great.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
I just think that process says you just you play
your quarterbacks super flex. I mean Baker Mayfield has a
bad game, he'scorse fifteen points. Yeah, like that, and like
that's like a solid outing for a lot of skill
position players. Again full PPR Okay, there is more of
an argument for some of the top skill guys. But dude,
I think Baker is gonna sling it man, Like I.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Mean, quarter and full PPR is Pickens versus the Eagles.
A discussion point for.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
You if it is I'm starting the core, I'm starting
the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, I agree Field.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
I I don't think it's close for me. I also
don't think it's like that terrible of I ma, it's
a game with like a forty nine and a half
point total. Baker Mayfield has been the QB seven back
to back weeks. He ran last week and last week
he didn't throw for a lot of yards, but it
was really windy. Right, he's playing in a dome. Give
me back, Mayfield, Come on, come on all the Baker.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Maker Bayfield, I devo suck' sep.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Dead am I muted, We're good?

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Now you're good?

Speaker 11 (10:52):
Uh cool? Two questions got an RB question a flex
question the RB. I have three running backs who probably
won't might be playing Bucky Chash Jacobs and Trey Benson. Yeah, yeah,
it's it's rough. Here are my options in case all
three of them don't play. I have Blake Koram, Michael Carter,

(11:14):
Chris Brooks and Cuba. What too would you stick in
in the worst case scenario where none none of those
three play?

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Jesus all right, run run the guy. The options again.
I heard Chris Brooks, Cuba.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
What were the other two, Michael Carter and Blake.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Koram, What do you think? Ericson? I'm leaning like Cuba
and maybe Michael Carter. Korm's interesting, Korm stupid, Blake Korm
taking carries away from my Hian Williams, Russia, tant bets
and stuff. He's super annoying. But my gut saying Michael

(11:49):
Carter and and Cuba, I hate those options though obviously.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
I think I do kor and Michael Carter, Cuba and
then three straight you want to play true, but Hubbard, I.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Don't play any of them. But like, okay, I mean
they don't.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
I mean they've used Korm at the gold Line. Yeah,
he got stuffed on three straight.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, and then they gave it to the right person
after to fix it. But yeah, to your point.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
So, yeah, I mean it's a tough matchup. I just
don't really know what I mean. Hubbard doesn't have a
workload really, like his touches have been sapped since Rico
doubt takeover. So even if the matchup is good against
the forty nine ers bad defense, you're seeing negative game script.
You don't even know how much they're gonna run the ball.
So and then Korm doesn't get touches, and Michael Carter

(12:36):
like he's in that pass catching role so he sees targets,
and we don't know de Mercado is injured, Trey Bentson
is injured. So I mean there's also a chance that
one of these guys just ends up playing. So I mean,
Jacob seems like he's like really trying to play, which
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
More power, I mean, Bucky practiced that I actually have
the most optimism of Bucky of that list. But you
like you would definitely play a banged up Bucky and
Josh shake ups over that pile of garbage.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah. Yeah, and again it's it's worth waiting to So
it's like, I don't I don't know if you're gonna
miss much like oh, I didn't play bake chlor Also
you have because Korum and Bucky by at the same game.
You can go down to the wire with Bucky if
it's decision and it's like, okay, I can just flipping gorms.
I don't take a zero, So that's probably what I
would do.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Look at you, Look at you. It's our boy, nut.
What's up with a venom tag?

Speaker 4 (13:30):
All right?

Speaker 6 (13:30):
So basically I gotta start a wide receiver and a
flex and I'm choosing between o'donsay, Flowers Pittman and Henderson's.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
So Flowers, Pittman, o'doonsay and Trayvon. You're just unphased by
the the Trayvion are the remondre coming back news, which
I don't blame you on that.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
It's really not It's really more about them facing the Bengals. Yeah,
they were facing a good run defense. I would probably
feel more different, But I just dude, Travia Henderson could
be the RB one on ten carries.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, who did you say? Did you say a dunes
Ay and Trevion? Yeah, yeah, it's the best players. I
do the same thing, but grudgingly, and I'll be mad
when Reminder gets goal line carries. But you know it's
the Bengals. They're really really bad. Rice Pudding's up, Rice
pull wellas subdude.

Speaker 12 (14:30):
A couple quick things here, quick therapy session. I dropped
trivia on Henderson a couple of days before he went
absolutely off, and I've lost to him twice since then.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
No, how did you lose to him twice?

Speaker 12 (14:45):
It was in two different leagues. I had him in
two leagues and then I lost to him the first
week when he dropped forty, and then I lost him
next week in a different league when he dropped thirty two.
I need a second flex option, and I'm thinking if
a man or, if Josh Jegobs doesn't play, I'll put
Wilson in there. But if he doesn't, would you play Strabone,

(15:09):
Manongay or.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Piarsaw, Sharboney, Monoguy or pure Saw. That is Ricky Puarsaw
for me.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, I'm cool with that.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah, manog guys limited Charbonay's limited Pearsaw might be nothing,
but we also know, you know, big play ability. It's
a fantastic matchup. There's no floor players, and that's the
other big thing too. None of those guys are great
floor players, So why not go for the big bang
with someone like Ricky Piarsaw agreed, Jorge the Lefty s

(15:42):
porg that a bird or a dragon in the photo.

Speaker 13 (15:48):
That's a bird, guys, it's a golden eagle from Mongolia.
When I drove from London to Mongolia. Oh is that
you these guys along the way?

Speaker 2 (15:56):
That's me? So wait, hold on myself a bit. Yeah, no,
it's okay, but it's only us here. It's just friends,
say space. That looks like a vulture. So wait, that's
a golden eagle from Mongolia.

Speaker 13 (16:08):
So it's it's what these eagle hunters used to like
kill deer and and get food. So these things are
absolutely massive.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Was it like, was it terrifying having a giant raptor
on your arm like that? Or are you just like face.

Speaker 13 (16:22):
Said that the eagles will naturally go to the highest
point in your body, and so if you don't lift
it above your head, it's going to tear your head apart.
So that was why I was looking a little bit
starting this thing down, because I was going to take
my eyes take my eyes out, dude, pretty sick a
photo and I have both my eyes.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
So and you know what sign eagles over Cowboys, great
defensive matchup, tearing Cowboys heads off. That's that's those are
the signs. Jerry signs, all right, what do you got, Jorge?

Speaker 6 (16:46):
There you go.

Speaker 13 (16:47):
Well, first of all, I feel like Eric's is going
to feel vindicated because he's he said last week me
to start a nine and of course, like against the Rams,
I'm thinking there's no way he's going to do anything,
and he pops off twenty points. So that was that
was huge. Wasn't expecting that?

Speaker 2 (16:59):
What did you do? And so he told you to
do that and then you're like okay, and then you
didn't listen.

Speaker 13 (17:05):
No, no, I did, no. I just I have Booth
Canon and Sharps and it was a matter of like
do I choose one or the other?

Speaker 7 (17:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (17:11):
Yeah, I remember that with K nine despite Sharps like
vulturing a bunch of tds, and that was the right cause.
So I appreciate the the heads up there. So I'm
in another must win situation and Spitgate has kind of
destroyed any chances of that after Chase decided to get
and self suspended eight hands on buy and Bucky's on IR.

(17:34):
So what I'm trying to figure out is need. I
desperately need a wide receiver too. I picked up Hollands
off of Waivers, but I also have options for Washington Downs, Yasubas,
and Burden. Give gun to your head, like, would you
stick with Ballin's. I guess if it's like a must
winner and a twenty point underdock at this point, I
probably need to do a major upside at this point

(17:55):
versus store.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, yoh yeah, Bumblebee, tune it to you. It's a
hundred percent Yoshi Vas. I was just doing my ranks
today and Yoshi is definitely the play over all. The
MAC has got to go down, I think a little
bit because Booty looks like he's good to go, so
I kind of tanked him. I've got Yoshi Vas just
outside the top thirty, so I have him as a
top three wide receiver. Do you I don't remember where

(18:17):
I know Pat was like super pro Yoshi Vas. Did
he say where he had him ranked on the rank
show or if not, where do.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
You have him three? I have him thirty three.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Okay, I have him at thirty two, so yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
I think he's very much starting caliber. Look, it's I'm
above consensus on t Higas and I'm above consents on
Yoshi Vas I think would be right on one of
these guys. So this is like, I think it's worth
the dice roll to be aggressive on one of these
two players. Obviously you're going to start Higgins no matter what.
But Yoshibas could he be this week's Michael Wilson. I

(18:49):
know that. In the sleeper article that comes up for
featured pros. Dude, everyone listened Yoshi bas As the sleeper
wide receiver. Uh huh, And I don't and I don't disagree.
And as I was kind of even looking at it
a little bit more, I was adding some of my
own analysis. Just Oshibos has like had a couple of
games this year where he's been involved. He was a
wide receiver twelve on the week two weeks ago with

(19:09):
Chase An Higgins, so we've already seen him like have
a little bit of a connection with Flacco. So yeah,
I think that if you're in a pinch, I think
that he's a really good start. And if you just
don't feel good about any of these other guys, like
this other receiver, just thro Yoshibos in there, I think
that he can be productive.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, you know, just to throw one extra little thing
in there. On the rank shows that we did together
with Pat, we were like, hey, this is a better
running back flex week than wide receiver. I will throw
the slight caveat to say that Yoshibas might be the
one singular player, Like I play in a pentathlon league
and he's a sitting out there. It's a twelve team league.

(19:46):
He's the guy that I'm playing over the zach sharbonnets,
over the Tony Pollard's like I'm playing over those like
mid thirty running backs because I think there's upset and
if you believe in the like Christian Gonzales could lock
down at T Higgins, well guess what, Yoshi vas gets
to play the T Higgins in that role while T
is the shutdown on Jamar. So like very very firm,

(20:09):
any of the questions you guys might have, you're like,
kind of the flex options. If Yoshibas is out there,
we are likely going to say him that is going
to be the option over a lot of other stuff
that you guys are gonna put out there.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
I think in the wide receiver three factory of sadness,
you got to shoot your shot. Yoshi's kind of like
the guy right, just like pick if you're gonna pick
someone in this tier where it's like it's like do
you want to start Xavier Worthy or Yoshio?

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Are you ready for something? Are you ready for this? Yeah,
let's go, Larceal, it's one of my good impressions. Was
that good?

Speaker 3 (20:44):
That's really good?

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Okay. I feel like Deebro doesn't like I only have
weird impressions. I do meat wide from Aquitine, I do Yoshi,
that's about it. And Deebro just hates my impressions. He
just thinks of the worst.

Speaker 14 (20:57):
But Larceal, we're all right.

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there was a second question. Who was that from? Who
had the second question? Jorge? Yes, re raise your hand Hore.
Sorry if I booted you, just re raise it quickly

(21:44):
and I will get you back up. And then we
got to go to our resident faceoff conversation.

Speaker 8 (21:49):
Ory.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
What was your second question?

Speaker 13 (21:52):
Yes, and the second one was just to complete the
trout or so for tight ends, I have Autumn on
my lineup, but fenin Loveland are available. Again, I need
to kind of maximize upside here. Which of the three
would you choose? And then for flex, but I have
K nine as my wide receiver as my running back.
If I just put Charbs with my flex to kind
of cover with the TD angle.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Put Yoshi in there or do you don't have Yoshi?

Speaker 13 (22:16):
Well no, Yoshi is my wide receiver too? Is unfortunately?

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Oh yeah, okay, I only okay, So you want to know,
like for your for a flex, is there another option
on SHARBONA or is it just are you just wanting
confirmation that we're going to get in.

Speaker 13 (22:30):
Those other wide receivers I kind of talked about like
the downs of Washington and Burden and the Hollands.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Okay, okay, gotcha, Eric a tight end. I think I'm
sticking with Auden uh pro Baker Mayfield here? What about
on the flex you go Sharps or you go with
one of those wide receivers.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
I think just put in there because other guys are
in a position where they're matchups or positions are so
upside driven that I'm okay. Hey, if sharbona Vulture is
a touchdown, it doesn't matter because I start a walk
or two, so I don't care who scores a touchdown.
So I think that's fine.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Where was the uh cool? QUI say that name correctly?
Our resident face off expert? What's up?

Speaker 6 (23:15):
Dude?

Speaker 5 (23:15):
Hey, where's it going?

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Guys? Good? Good? I know you have a question. Why
don't you ask the first question real quick?

Speaker 6 (23:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (23:21):
Yeah, well it's three really quick, rapid fire ones.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Just at the flex.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
I'm struggling between picking between Ted McMillan or Chase Brown.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
By the way, that was not the question he was
supposed to ask Ericson have you seen Face Off? And
then Ericson chakes his answer, yeah, we all know it.
We all know it. Christmas, We're looking for a Christmas miracle?
All right, tetro or Chase Brown Erickson Chase Brown tetro
for me? What's the second question?

Speaker 6 (23:50):
Wait?

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Why?

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Why are you going to massive targets? It's a great
matchup again this week? Touchdown equity. I don't trust the
the I don't trust the matchup against Bryce Young being
able to be viable. I don't know if they're gonna
be I don't know the bangles are going to run
at like a super aggressive degree. I do like that
he's going to be able to get the ball out
of the backfield. But I actually kind of don't hate

(24:12):
the touchdown. I like the touch in equity a little
bit more with tedtor Row right.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Now, Chase Brown has four games with over one hundred
yards from scrimmage? Yeah, or straight? Was he playing this
week the Patriots without defensive tackle Milton Williams's fair.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
It's fair. You're gonna dice them up, dude.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Chase Brown plays ninety percent of the snap. Jase Brown
is bel.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Coow Okay, back back to the preseason. Huh like, Oh
he's a top ten running back Chase Brown. Remember remember
when I got yelled that week one? Wait? Hold on
hold on. Remember when I got yelled a week one
about not wanting to trade Chase Brown.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yeah, because you didn't want to trade it for Tyler Warren.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
I didn't and I had to give up a pick
though too.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
You want to, you'd still want that trade back.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
I want an apology. No, I want an apology. I'm
gonna wait for it. What was question number two? Question two.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Ten man league.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
There's a lot of depth out there on the way
where I do have b Bryan Robinson as a stash,
but there is base Shall Tuton out there. So I'm
wondering should this hold to be rob because he's in
a better offense, or maybe go for the rookie.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Do you have Chrisian McCaffery or not? I do not,
Then I'm cool with Tuton Robinson.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
I'm fine with it too. I mean, I do think
there's a point, even outside of not having Christian McCaffrey,
of why you did the Brian Robinson stuff. But we're
also like we're pretty far in Like if m Christian
McCaffrey are to go down Brian Robinson's top ten back,
like there's just no doubts about it. Tuton does have
standalone value so if you need that's my answer. If
you need standalone value right now, Touton is the answer.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
Gotcha, I've got JT and Chase Brown and Henderson, so
you really.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Don't need standalone value. So my eyes, I'm keeping Brian
Robinson just in case. What was question number three?

Speaker 5 (25:59):
And this is more for my wife. But so she's
been holding on to Jayden Daniels even though she has
Omary Hampton on the I R slot and still holding
on to Dak Prescotta Killer Williams. So I'm assuming it's
best to just drop Jayden because I don't see it
happening to him coming back.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
I mean, you can't trade him for anything, so I
would just drop them. You already have two quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
I feel like we've gone through the ringer with Jayden Daniels,
Like you saw the injury and I'm like, caught them.
And then they're like, oh, by the way, there's no
structural damage, like we'll check it out later, and then
they're floating these he could maybe play and we're just
hearing nothing, like I think you can move on from him.
I am moving on from him. We all are moving
on from him.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
It's not the commanders here unfortunately, like last year was
their Cinderella season and this year has been more of
Friday the thirteenth was good.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Look at you movie references. Surge, it's ub surge.

Speaker 8 (26:57):
How's it going?

Speaker 2 (26:57):
We're going good?

Speaker 8 (27:00):
Glad to hear it real quick. I know genty has
an amazing Week seventeen matchup, but the other weeks in
there kind of scare me to death. Would you trade
him for like a Judkins or maybe like an AJ
Brown or something like that? Straight up? Or do you

(27:20):
just because I'm in first, maybe hold on to him.
Hope you get to week seventeen and then have a
smash matchup.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
This is your only question, right Yeah? Okay, cool? Sorry,
I'm just bringing off the stage, but didn't if you
had another one? Man, I think I love AJ Brown
this week against Cowboys Judkins. I just don't know what
to do with right now. I love the usage of
gent as far as being in the receiving game. I
got you know what, Eileen, I'm gonna hold but Erics,

(27:47):
can you tell me different?

Speaker 3 (27:49):
No? I think you got a hold. Look, if he
gets to week seventeen, he's gonna win leagues, right Like,
It's as simple as I like he can run all
over the Giants. Now it's a matter of just getting
there find other ways. But the fact that he's involved
so much in the passing game, I don't think there's
gonna be a total zero every single weeken even some
of these tougher matchups. And although the collar didn't point

(28:09):
out this week, obviously against the Browns is tough. But
after that he's got the Chargers. They have not been
a good run defense this year, so that's another good
matchup for him. So it's not all gloom and doom
four week seventeen. So I would hold genty, especially if
Tholls are the other options where I'm not completely over
the moon. I know Jadgkinson is a pretty good schedule
rest season, but he's not as involved as a receiver.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
All right, I'm gonna click it. TCB, Hi, TCB.

Speaker 6 (28:37):
Hello to the two best looking guys on the Fantasy
Pros team.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Oh, back back into the good graces, back in the
good graces. What's up, TCB.

Speaker 6 (28:45):
Well, I'm just glad you know we got the exclusive
that you're Yoshi in the new Super Mario Galaxy movie
coming out, So appreciate that exclusive.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, I would love that that's like a dream of
mine would be to like obviously in movie would be cool.
But to do like a voice character for something would
be amazing. But I don't have range. I don't have
a lot of Obviously, my range is grountle something like this,
like a cartoon character. I gotta play something stupid. But
that is a life goal in the future. But what

(29:14):
is your goal out of this one?

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Okay?

Speaker 6 (29:17):
So I am in a one QB just regular flex league,
and I have Joe Burrow and Ronde Gadsden as my backups.
May and Bowers are my starters. So what kind of
value do you think I could get for bro and

(29:38):
or Gadsden. I feel particularly weak at running back because
I have Bucky and Hampton, so if they get healthy,
I feel set there. But obviously that's not the case
right now, so I don't know what kind of value
I think I could get. I do also have London.
You know, I can maybe sell him for seventy five

(29:59):
cents on the dollar with one or both of those
guys to try and get a running back. So any
advice there?

Speaker 2 (30:06):
What should think Erickson? We're going we're going ericson here.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
I don't think You're going to get a ton for
Burrow right now, just because you got him off of waivers,
probably because he got dropped, and Drake May still has
his bi week, so you can run another quarterback. Bowers
has already had his bye week, so I would keep
him as your tight end, and I would trade Gadsdon
to the manager with the worst tight end situation, and
you just can get whatever you want back. And if
you want to add London to that deal to sweeten

(30:32):
it to get a even higher piece back, whether it's
a running back or wide receiver, That's what I would do.
We talk about this with Worm on the Trade show,
where it's not always about which player should I be targeting,
it's which manager should I be targeting? And if you
want the most for Gaston, you have to find the
manager with the weakest tight end situation.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Love it. I'll get ericson such a stud uh o
de kai music. I don't know if I said that correctly,
o Kai? I think I did. What's up?

Speaker 9 (31:02):
Nailed it first?

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Try boom, look at that? What up? Dude?

Speaker 15 (31:06):
How are we doing?

Speaker 3 (31:07):
So?

Speaker 15 (31:07):
My question is basically a start too. I got admit
I'm the Josh Jacobs owner so I'm thinking Emmanuel Wilson.
I'm also dealing with spitgate, so thinking about Yoshibas.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
But I have Pearsaw.

Speaker 15 (31:18):
So who are the two you would start out of
those three?

Speaker 2 (31:22):
So wait a minute, So the what is Wilson, Pearsol
and Yoshi vas that you're asking between those three? Okay, Well,
if Josh Jacobs plays, this is answered for you because
Wilson gets kicked to the curb, and then.

Speaker 15 (31:38):
I'm assuming Josh doesn't play.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
So I think it's more about which which which receiver,
because you're gonna start, You're gonna start packers running back
whichever one is playing. Okay, so that's easy. Just lock
in one of the running backs and move once pearsal
over Yoshibass be like both guys a little bit Welsh.
Do you have a lean? I have the rink pretty closely.
I have Piersol slightly ahead.

Speaker 7 (32:00):
I do I do.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Too my direction.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
I'm going to say the same thing, but I'm not
gonna lie. There is a little part of me that,
as the week goes on, I might fall down the
Yoshi Vass whole a little bit more phrasing that I
might just like, you know, like talk myself more and
more into like why I need him to be higher.
I think Piersoll probably it's the upside play because it's

(32:27):
just such a good matchup. They're just so close. We're
bug landing Piersol here. So I guess that's gonna be
our answer. But if you decided to go Yoshi, I
don't think it's the worst thing in the world. I don't.

Speaker 15 (32:39):
I'm basically dead even on him. I was just curious
your thoughts, but that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah, we're both dead even onto.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
I think I think Piers All still, I mean again,
we like both guys. I think Piersoll is the play though.
Would you say he's the better player? Oh yeah, so again,
Yoshi Voss is a one one week stop gap. It
seems like and you can't be really good. But I
think that the ceiling ceiling is peer saw what he
showed for the first four weeks of the season when

(33:05):
he was averaging whatever, one hundred yards per game. Yeah,
and that was with other guys still like in the offense,
so I know Kit'll miss some time. But yeah, I
think Pierce All attached to Brock Purry probably has more
upside than jo Flaka.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
And we can agree it had pearsall gotten like five
catches for seventy yards, Piercel would be inside the top
twenty wide receiver.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Yeah, that's a good way to look at that's a
good way to look at it. Like if he's just
like a little bit more production last week, like an
even better about it?

Speaker 5 (33:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Really, like any I guess like for me, it's it's
like he still moved up pretty substantially in ECR after
a bomb week, but it's because he played a lot
of snaps. So I think that gave us the encournment. Okay,
he's healthy, now the production should follow. So I know
this has been a long winded answer to get to
pierce all original rankings, which our original rankings had anyway,

(33:52):
but it's like we're trying to justify the ranks.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
No, but we got to talk to this stuff because
this happens. Like I've said this a million times over
the reasons. Back in the day with my in this
league shows, we would just be constant guests. You were
a guest many times and we would do guests. And
one of the best things about that was like a
lot of us in ranking and just you know, putting
this stuff together, you just kind of get like a baseline.

(34:17):
But then when you start to test your baseline, which
some people don't do. Some people just do their ranks go.
But then when you verbally are like, hey, let's talk
about this guy or this guy versus this guy, then
all of a sudden, you start like second guessing yourself
because on paper we're both piasol over, but now talking
about it, it's like, well, you know, it is super
close and I could see where you could move around.
So I think these are super important conversations. And I

(34:37):
think the Piersol Yoshi vas Won, like that general vicinity
of guys is it's tough. It's tough this week, and
every wrong decision can mean everything out of bounds me, Bogman,
Joe piez Apia. You can check it on Twitch Mondays
at two pm Eastern, And that's not the only thing
on Twitch. We got a full schedule for you, Bogman
and myself. We've been playing mad and I, oh my god, ericson.

(35:02):
We haven't put the clip out yet. We people drop
off when we play Madden, though we're still answering questions,
so I wish you would hang out. We had the
most absurd, insane into a Madden game you've ever seen.
I promise you it went to overtime. It's crazy. We're
gonna have a clip of it. It was nuts. We

(35:23):
spent a full hour answering questions and then we answered
questions while we played Madden two hours twelve pm Eastern.
Did that on Tuesday. Look for that clip because holy crap,
it was ridiculous. Thursdays Seth and Debro one pm Eastern,
Fridays Seth and Debro two pm Eastern, and on Sundays
at noon we got a Q and a before kickoff.
Go to twitch dot tv slash Fantasy Pros, give us

(35:45):
a follow, don't miss the streams, hang out do it
today Twitch dot tv slash Fantasy Pros. You would gasp.
I think you might audibly gasp if you could see
what happened at the end of the game. Ericson you
play you ever played Madden? I feel like you're not
a Madden guy.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Yeah. I was a Madden guy and then I just
got really frustrated with the game and I was sick
of all my broken controllers. So I decided to, uh
go down, you retire, retire from that and.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Man, good thing you went heavy into, like you know,
sports betting and fantasy and spit gates and stuff like that.
That'll help. You Just can't break controllers anywhere you can
break other stuff, all right, Uh, toast, step toast, come on.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Down the Falcons like the Falcons.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
It's like Michael Pennix, Hell, what up?

Speaker 5 (36:35):
Hey?

Speaker 10 (36:36):
Are you guys intrigued with Fannin or are you like
running away from that matchup? Like do you think that's
good or bad? I have some other options on the
waiver where like Barner or Knox or Musgrave. What would
you guys do? That's really my only question?

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Okay, yeah, I mean those aren't the I do like Barner,
but those over Fan and I don't think I can
go with I think I'm in. I'm the word intrigued
would be used of, like how is Shador going to
treat the full week of practice as the one? Is
he gonna hug the tight ends? Like I think I'm

(37:17):
on a downslope of Fanin without Gabriel, But I'm open
to the possibility things, you know, I mean like Fan
is a really great athletic tight end. They move him
in space to be a safety net. He gets yards
after the catch, Like I like Fanin a lot, so
things could work out. Well, I'm starting him in your
case because the options that you put out there, they
don't do anything for me outside of Barner's like a

(37:37):
desperation play for me at tight end. So I'm out
there with barn with Fannin. Do you have higher optimism?
Erickson on Fannin, I.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Think it's just kind of like status quo, right. He
kind of does the same thing every week, and he's
a tight end one if he scores a touchdown, and
if he doesn't, he's not a tight end one. So
not over the moon, but any of those other options,
I gotta say Welsh in this type of situation, this
could be a throw Taysom Hill in there.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
It is, I know, I know, I mean that.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
I mean Taysom Hill is like the quintessential what the
heck flex type of play or at tight end. I
would not flex Taysom hole. But it's like if you
just want to roll the dice again, he could literally
score zero points, but no one's got more multi touchdown
upside beside the leit tight ends than Taysom Hill does
this week. And I really feel like strongly about that, like,
I'm gonna try to find a spot, probably start Taste

(38:31):
Hill on our content team league. I can probably put
him in there. I can find a spout to sneak
him in. But if you really feel like super gross
about all your tight ends, then I mean that's an option,
But I think that I would probably just keep Fanning in.
He has a floor. We should you should see shoulder,
you know, lean on him as I mean, he's been
one of the more consistent guys on this team. And

(38:52):
we'll obviously see what we get from Jerry Judy, which
is always fun to watch, but I think that fan
is probably the best option of those guys.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yeah, it's fun to watch. If you like watching grass grow,
that's super fun. Paint and dry those they're super fun. Yeah.
I have only two leagues because I'm playing quite a
few this year, only two leagues that are just not good.
One is like a sixteen team keeper league that I've
been in rebuild, and the other is a content team league,
like I'm still alive in the Survivor or the Guillotines

(39:20):
and you know my big money. All those are still good.
It is our content league that I have just completely
fallen apart. Now I'm wondering if Taysom Hill's out there
and I can beat you.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Too, we'll say I will say too. Joku is on
the injury report again, so if he doesn't play like
that's just even more to man in as. Okay, he's
gonna play all the snaps like that's a good floor
for a tight end.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Okay, all right, last three. I'll try to get him
in here on a little bit of a lightning round.
Ronan Ronan premium member. What's up? And I see you
dropped your team in here, So what's the question.

Speaker 16 (39:51):
The question is more about getting ready for the playoffs.
I mean, I've got guys like Sutton and Tracy on
my bench and I don't really expect them to crack it.
Do I just hold those types of guys, you know,
in case of injury, or do I try to push
and trade them off the next week or so?

Speaker 2 (40:05):
The starting lineup is dak Et and Gibbs, lamb olave JSN.
I can't really tell if that's like a flex where
Bucky and Quinch on Jutkins. Is they are okay that
those are flexes? So then yeah, it's like I get
the idea of the moving off thing. My personal take
on it would be you have to take a Sutton

(40:28):
and pair him with the Jutkins, and you make a
big upgrade someone that needs some depth, and you you
upgrade from that standpoint. Otherwise, I don't think it's the
worst thing in the world to have some depth. I mean,
you have Bucky who where there's nothing safe, a lave
Lamb both injuries et and is banged up and looks
like he could be, you know, losing. Like I don't

(40:49):
think it's a bad thing to have depth. So the
thing that I'm considering is you're taking two players making
a massive upgrade. One has to be a receiver because
whether I think you put Sutton as a star or
you move him, he's a call like Jordan Mason doesn't
do much here. So that's my take on this team.
What do you think, Erickson?

Speaker 3 (41:07):
I kind of agree. I don't think that having depth
is like the worst thing in the world, especially with
I mean, these aren't like terrible pieces. I mean, Mason's
probably more like a handcuff, so he's probably the guy
you could probably let go. But I mean se Aaron
Jones get banged up throughout this season and again bit
Gate two point zero, right, Like, I mean we literally

(41:27):
saw George Pickens do the exact same penalty James and
Williams did. Like our player's gonna stop spitting. We would
hope so, but who knows. So, Like, I think that
having Sutton in your back pocket in case, you know,
someone misses a week, it's not the worst thing in
the world to throw him out there. I mean, he's
been pretty good. I know that he's fallen off the
last couple of weeks, but I mean there are definitely
worse situations to be in. So unless you can upgrade,

(41:49):
like you said, package Sutton with Judkins to move up,
I think Jones or excuse me, Mason's probably the only
guy would I really like dump?

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Yeah, yeah, there was something decent out there. Later did
premium member on the Fantasy Bros. Discord second to last up.
What's up? Hey, how's going guys?

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (42:07):
I got a flex question. It's either between Jamo or
Tyler Warren. I mean I do have Bowers. I mean
I've been trying to trade one of these guys for
a while. I've not been able to find a partner.
So this is, uh, just trying to find the best
flex for this week.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
That he does not leave your lineup, not from now
for the rest of the season.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
It's tough for matchup two. So uh, I'm good with that. Yeah.
That Now, that's a situation where you have like two
of the top three tight ends. I can tell you've
been trying to make that move. You're dying to make
that move, and it just doesn't hasn't happened. But I'm
in agreement with Eric's and Redbeard. Final up, we'll slip
b Redbeard.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
What's up y'all?

Speaker 2 (42:50):
What a what do you got?

Speaker 4 (42:52):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (42:52):
Two quick ones?

Speaker 17 (42:53):
First one is Stash McLoughlin or Ady Mitchell with the injuries.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
U Jillian McLaughlin eighty Minchell. Yeah, sure, I'm good with that.

Speaker 17 (43:08):
Which one did you say?

Speaker 2 (43:09):
I went with ericson McLaughlin.

Speaker 17 (43:11):
Yeah, other question, I had somebody hitting me up for
Jalen Hurts. It's one quarterback league. I've got Drake may
as my starter. His his was sending te Law and
then I packaged. I was thinking of packaging either DK
Metcalf or DeVante Smith with Jalen Hurts and go after

(43:33):
either Rome or Jmo. He does have Sutton.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Also, do you guys care about your second quarterbacks a
lot that he's sending one.

Speaker 17 (43:41):
Uh, everybody in this league for some reason, there's some
that have three or four or five quarterbacks. So there's
nothing on the waiver.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Because t law doesn't do anything for me here because like,
if I'm going to look at it from a singular standpoint,
it's Jalen Hurtz for who is the other one, Jmo?

Speaker 17 (43:57):
And who he's got Jmo Rome the only receivers I'm
really interested. He's got Romo, Donsday, Sutton and Jamo are
the only ones I'm really interested.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, yeah, I know I got you. So then would
you trade Jalen Hurts in that scenario for a Doonsay
or Jamison Williams Ericson?

Speaker 3 (44:17):
So he has May already, right, he.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Has Drake Man, so that would be his starter.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
I would I want Jamo on my team? The Lions
are set up so well. Rest of the way.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Again, you think it's equal equal value to get Jamo
and get it get rid of Jaalen Hurts.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
If you already have Drake May, I mean you're getting
I think you're getting a top twenty wide receiver. Rest
of the season, like locked and loaded starter that has Yeah,
I would do it.

Speaker 14 (44:45):
Give me Ja, Yeah, I think it upgrades your team.
Maybe this is the tightest dynasty too, gimme give me
Ja dynasty. Uh yeah, both guys are pretty good.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Actually, I might go Rome to be honest with you
on that. I think both are solid plays dynasty. I
kind of want Rome a little bit more. But we
get a pick too. Can we get a pick for
Jalen Hurts dynasty? We get a pick second round? Too much?
Chase Brown and a first Please that's a Joe I.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Think of his dynasty. You gotta get Romal means Spring
tied the Jamo.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, I think I'm going for Rome and so go
Rome for her. So I think it's pretty even. If
you want to have the other pieces to like even
it out, you can do that and that is beautiful.
You guys did a fantastic job. Thank you so much
for hanging out with all the live people in here
and all of you on the podcast for hanging out
with us. If you're listening on the podcast, why are
you not hanging out with us?

Speaker 6 (45:40):
Do not like us?

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Come on, we like you, Come and hang out be
a part of the fun ericson and I usually my
camera works, it didn't today, so you just got to
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But that's okay. You guys can come in Fantasypros dot
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But regardless, if we don't talk to you until then,

(46:26):
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FantasyPros - The Extra Point: Gearing Up For Playoffs, Tough Week 12 Decisions, and Chat Q&A (Ep. 1860)

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