March 5, 2025 • 50 mins
John opens the show talking about how it's really starting to feel like golf season. This weekend we will see the majority of the top players in the world during this weekend's Arnold Palmer Invitation and John dives into what he thinks we'll see. John, gives you his best bets for this weekend and a paraly that could win you some money. Later, he answers your questions during this episode's mailbag segment.
Later, John dives into the Eagles giving Saquon Barkley a contract extension making him the highest paid running back in the league.
3:49 - Golf is back
9:46 - This week's parlay
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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What is going on everybody? How are we doing? John
Middlecoff and a little go low podcast with a little
Saquon Barkley talk at the end. So we're gonna talk
a little golf in regards to We've got the Arnold
Palmer Bayhill this weekend, all elevated event, all the stars there.
A couple of weeks we got the players. We had
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Fred Couples go on local radio say Koepka is ready
to return. We had my guy Jake Knapp, who I
think moved to Scottsdale within the last year. I see
him sometimes at TPC. Looked like he was gonna win
a second tournament of the year and then had a disaster,
And I just wanted to talk disasters as a whole
because they are riven to watch. We also will do
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a We do it all the time every single week
for this podcast at golo pod. Is the Instagram at
golo pod, fire your dms any questions regarding golf to
get to get on the mail bag on this podcast. Obviously,
do a football one is just my normal Instagram. I
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like to separate it for golf. It's just easier to
find him at golopod. Is the way to do it.
So make sure you subscribe to the podcast on Collins Feed.
Everything's up on YouTube. I did a little Saquon reaction
for YouTube, but I put the audio here at the
end of this podcast because he just got a big
extension and I wanted to talk about it. So little
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golf talk, a little golf mail bag, and a little
Saquon Barkley, who just became an even richer man. So
but other than that, I did want to start with.
This does start to feel like right around the players
is when you get Master commercials. And I'm a sucker
for the West Coast Swing. I mean those that stretch
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pebble waste. I know RIV didn't happen this year because
of the fires, and I would include Tori as well,
has a soft spot for me. Even Hawaii, there's nothing
like the I mean, it used to be the Tournament
of Champions. Now they allow like I don't know, just
random people in but those views in Honolulu or in Kapalua,
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the water in the background. I've never played, and my
brothers played it a couple times. It's just it really
kind of like, God, I want to be in Hawaii,
And I would say right around now, it feels like, okay,
the golf starting to get real, and this week the
Arnold Palmer with the elevated event. You know, Xander's back, obviously, Scottie, Rory, Ludwig,
jt all the big dogs are there, and then in
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a couple of weeks we have the players and then
it feels like major seasons on. And I think sometimes
with these golf tournaments. Again, if you're listening to this,
you're probably a pretty big but listen, we get a
lot of people that play golf that don't watch golf,
that consume this content. And that was such a cheesy thing.
Consume this content. I'm saying, listen to me talk about golf.
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But ultimately, like the last couple of weeks the Mexico opened,
the cognizant aren't really doing it for most. And I
completely understand there's a star studded sport in the sense
of you need stars to get people to pay attention. Tennis,
any individual sport is that way. You can't roll out
randoms and expect people to care. And I think anytime
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that these guys all play together. We saw a couple
of weeks ago with Toy we saw at pebble with
Rory that the bigger names in the mix, people will
watch and you'll get three four million people watching on
a Sunday, which in this climate is really good. I
mean NBA games without Lebron James or Steph Curry are
not sniffing four million people. And I think anything you
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can hope is when these guys are together. And I
think the whole hard part about golf is like in
a perfect world, you would start to see, you know,
Rory's already won, Scotty's coming back off the injury, Ludviig's
already won a deck, he's already won. So the top
guys heading into the majors with Bryson Koepka and kind
of that crew waiting hopefully it's and hopefully John Romby
gets a shit together. It's like a perfect emergence of
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all the stars playing well. And then all of a
sudden you look at the Master's leader board and four
of those eight names are in the mix on Saturday
and Sunday. That's all you could ask for. And I
think right now is when you start to see, you know,
Rory's look really good this season. Obviously Ludwig if he
hadn't gotten sick, might have multiple victories. You know, Scotty
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is going to be just fine. I think the wild
card is Xander coming off the injury. We'll have to
give him a little time, but if he feels good,
like there's a chance this major season. You know Bryson,
how good he looked last year in the majors. It's exciting.
And listen this tournament. I think my full from a
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gambling standpoint, I'm gonna hammer Ludvig every single week as
a top ten. The moment I won what bet did
I win Tony Fenow to like top ten? I think
at Tory and he kind of backdoored it. Maybe no,
it's top five and I turned one thousand into fifteen hundred.
I immediately put one thousand dollars on Ludwig to win
the Players, and then I put another five hundred on
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him to win the Masters. But I will also hammer him.
That was kind of spur of the moment. I will
hammer him every single week to top ten because right
now he's played in four events and he's top ten
and two of them and one of them he was
leading after Thursday, and then he got deathly ill and
we all know people this flu season. I mean the
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flu came out of retirement a couple of years ago
and came back with a fucking vengeance. That thing just
went away like Michael Jordan started playing baseball and then
it came back, like, holy shit, it hit me twice.
So I just played golf with my buddy Pong on Saturday.
He said he was in shambles for like two weeks.
He said, the worst part is I had to give
presentations for work, and he's like, this was I owned
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the company, so I couldn't exactly not show up. I'm like, yeah, bro,
I had it the chills. You just feel like you
couldn't move. So there's a chance. I don't know if
Ludwig would have won at Toy, but I think it's
fair to say that he would have had three top
tens in four events. So to me, auto hammer, Ludvig
drives it straight, hits his irons peer. Now, historically at
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this course, they grow out the rough around the greens.
You would say, short game can be a little bit
of a bug boo for the guy, but I would
be stunned if he's not in the mix. And I
think the same could be said for Rory, for Scotty,
I also like Adecki, who's just been playing really well.
So Mike Parlay this week, and the guys I'm hammering
are led big to top ten, a decy to top ten.
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I do think Shane Lowry won. He's been playing really
good golf. Last year, he I think was tied for
third in this event. He is a floor guy, lived
there for a long time, so he's very comfortable in
the environment. Plus is a big year for him, right
there's a Ryder Cup year. I think he's trying to
cement his status of like is he on the fringe
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to like, I'm a Locke Ryder Cup guy moving forward
until my game falls off a cliff, like just write
me in in sharpie. And I've been hammering him for
top twenties every week. He played well pretty well last week.
I just think you look at listen. The scary part
about the Ryder Cup is the Euros look good. I mean,
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obviously Rory, I think his wedge game over the over
the winner clearly puts some emphasis in that. And if
his wedge game improves by I don't know, five to
ten percent, right, because there were moments the last couple
of years. I thought it was pretty horrendous for an
all time great player. And if it becomes like I
don't want to say a strength, but something that is
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not a liability like he could easily have, I would
say a Scottie Rohm type all of a sudden rory
won three or four times and a major or two,
and these are the type tournaments where I would expect
him to be in the mix. Same thing with Adeki.
So I'm going Ludwig Lowry to top twenty and Ludwig
and Hideki to top ten. I don't hate if you
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go with Hideki to top twenty, but I think Ludwig
moving forward is a auto top ten hammer if you
can get him at plus one fifty or plus one
seventy five or plus one sixty. Like I just like
my chances on a weekly basis. Again, he is a
the flu coming around to having three top tens in
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four events, the other being a top five and a win.
So I just I think you gotta like your chances
with the young stallion Freddy Couples, who I'm just a
sucker for these old school guys going on local radio,
keeping you know, keeping that medium alive and Freddy just
calling in probably talking some sports bs about the Seattle
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Seahawks offseason. I saw Mike McDonald was asked if he
could coach one player in league history, who would be?
I think he said like Lawrence Taylor. Of course he's
a defensive guy, but spiritual high in Seattle, well run operation,
good GM and Freddy Couples is fired up. Freddy Couples
diehard sports guy and a loyal, loyal PGA Tour guy.
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And he has for a guy that's not like playing
that regularly. I know he's played some Champions Tour, but
he has been extremely outspoken talking shit about the live
guys from the jump. Now he's biased. His wealth, his status,
where he stands in life is all created by the
PGA Tour, and you could say that was the same
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for every guy that went to Live. But he made
a comment this week on the radio show that Keopka
is one of his boys. It's one of his good buddies.
Obviously his BFF is Tiger, but he said that Koepka
wants to come back to the PGA Tour. And it's
pretty clear that a lot of these guys Keepka Bryson.
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I would say John Rahm, who's also been outspoken about
like he misses these events because you're just not getting
the same juice. I can't imagine. Like I totally understand
and I supported it. Is it was so easy for
everyone to get on the moral high horse. No I'm
the elite players and say, wait, why are you leaving?
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It's like, well, they just put one hundred and forty
five million dollars guaranteed in front of my face, and
then they say, if I play well in these events,
I can win like five million dollars, Like DJ won
fifty million dollars. I think the first couple years on Lift.
That doesn't even count the couple hundred million dollars they
paid him to leave. They gave Phil like two hundred,
two hundred and fifty million dollars and can't he's not
even good anymore. So when they aff for John Ram
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two to three hundred million dollars, like yeah, it's easy
for you to say no, just stay on the PGA tour,
keep playing the Arnold Palmer. It's like they just offered
me two hundred and seventy five million dollars and this
cool ass jacket. So I understand. But then after you
play there for a couple of years, you're like, I
kind of just miss being under the bright lights. I
miss being in the events that really matter, and beside
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the majors there are five or six events, and that's
what I'm fascinated to see, Like the integration of these
guys coming back, which feels inevitable. Are they gonna play
a normal schedule because if I was Kopka or I
was Bryson, Let's use Bryson as an example, because I
think Keoepka won. He never took regular events beside a
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couple that seriously, he was very successful at waste management
makes sense. Bright light event, you know the riv the
tory pines maybe like the players, but you think, like
you're not getting him to play random, non elevated events.
I do think what's gonna be fascinating for Bryson is
like he's built a pretty important thing on the internet
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and I can't imagine Bryson wanting to pivot off the YouTube.
And one thing the tour has always struggled with is
allowing these guys, and in fairness, they get so much
money from these TV partners that they don't want you
to rip the content like the CBS gets to own it.
It's why they pay all this money, and that's been
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the pushback guys like Bryson that Live allows them to
use any content they want. So I think they're gonna
have to find and strike some happy medium, because, let's
face it, they really need the three guys back, John
rom Bryson, d Chambeau and Brooks Koepka, and then you know,
for us golf nerds, the cam Smith's, the Wokie Nemans
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definitely add to it. But I think most people just
feel like, whenever this does come back, that this is
going to be normal again. I have a hard time
with that because if I just paid a couple hundred
million dollars, I would miss the juice, and I would
want some of the juice in sense of like I'd
want to play a waste, I'd want to play at
the Players, but some of these other events, like I
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didn't like doing that before I was super rich, I
don't plan on doing that now. And that's where I
think the disconnect has to be with some of these
players just just act like you're gonna do what we
tell you to do. It's hard to tell someone to
do something when they have more money than you and
they no longer really need you. Like especially Bryson, he
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just won a major. He's in them for the next
five years. Brooks last year won the PGA or two
years ago, like he's in majors for five years. Like
the DJ hasn't cared for five years, doesn't even matter
to him. But like those two guys, cam Smith won
the British Open a couple of years ago, Like, these
guys don't have to worry about getting into the major.
So bulling them around I think is going to be difficult.
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And one thing that's clear is like, and I saw
Alan Shipnak talking about this on Rapaport's YouTube show. That's
not Ian, that's Daniel, is these contracts are coming to
an end, right that these weren't eight year deals. This
wasn't Patrick mahomes Here's ten years, four and fifty million dollars.
It was like three or four years for a couple
hundred million dollars. And then they end, Well, it's like,
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are you gonna pay me another three hundred million dollars?
Are we gonna keep this going when twelve thousand people
are watching. That's what it does feel like. Probably not
now you can also never say never when you're dealing
with people with trillions of dollars with reserves that are
more than most major nations all around the world. So
I don't feel comfortable saying it speaking in absolutes about
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this situation, but it does feel like we're headed towards
somewhat of a resolution in the new year. I would
say year or two. I'm not confident it's gonna be
twenty twenty six. But I also am not confident that, like,
even when it's like, okay, they're quote unquote back together,
that it feels like what everyone thinks it's gonna look like, Oh,
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Bryce is just playing a schedule of fifteen events. I
don't know, because if I was him, it's like, now,
I'm gonna play some of the cool events, play the majors,
and I'm gonna do my YouTube stuff. Why because that's
making me a star. The majors make me a star.
Maybe the players maybe waste and Jack's tournament and YouTube.
So I don't think he's gonna pivot off that. I
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don't think brooks Kopka is gonna be like, oh, I'll
see you guys at the John Deeer the other thing
is one thing that is unique to golf is like
even in tennis, like you can start playing bad, hitting
the net and missing serves, but there is nothing like
a golf meltdown because it happens on an individual hole
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when a guy in the lead or in the mix
just has a disaster. And that's what happened to Jake
Nap on Sunday. And while it has to be just listen,
we all can relate if you play golf that all
of a sudden you're just kind of cruising on, playing
pretty good, and then you get a triple bogie, or
you hit two balls in the water, or you just
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hit one out of bounds, and then you three putt
and you're like, did I just make an eight on
a part five? It happens to all of us. The
difference is we're not playing on the PGA Tour and
we're not tied for the lead on whole eleven after
shooting a fifty nine on Thursday, and I was watching
on my couch when Jake Nap hits it into the
water and you're like, okay, he's gonna drop try to
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make a bogie here. Then he tries to hit it
out of the water because his balls kind of submerged
and does not get the ball out and it rolls
back in. Then he hits it again, and you just
for as awesome as great shots are, I think the
most riveting thing that can happen on television and professional
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golf is that I think it's just I can't believe
this is going on. And I would say the Cognizant
and Jake Nap on the scale of one to ten,
importance in the grand scheme of things is pretty low.
But when moments like that happen, Let's face it. I
had a decent amount of money last year on Max
Homa to win the Masters. I live bet him. I
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think I put one thousand dollars on him at like
fifteen to one on either Thursday or Friday, and we're
cruising on Sunday. I'm like, I think, I think this
is gonna happen. It's gonna be the biggest win or
one of them. I guess I hadn't hit my bryceon
d Chambeau Parlay that I would the US Open, which
is the biggest gambling win I've ever had. But it
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felt like I'm gonna do this, and then all of
a sudden hold twelve and he hits it into the bush,
and I immediately look, I have a cash out option
that I think I got like nine hundred and forty
dollars back, so I basically lost like sixty bucks night
immediately cash out. And then obviously he just he implotes.
I mean, anyone would have he's in a bush, what's
he gonna do? And that feeling when you're watching it.
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I think some of the biggest moments in the history
of golf are some of the big putts made or
the great shots made. But I actually think we think
about Jordan Speeth on twelve melting down, right, John Vandervelt
melting down, Greg Norman melting down, And sometimes a meltdown
can just be an awful shot, slash, an awful break
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And sometimes and I try to think about this, and
I do a terrible job of like should I just
hit out? Should I should I just chip out? Live
to fight another day. That's not fun. That is not
an enjoyable way to play golf. And even if you're
gambling with buddies and you can lose fifty bucks or whatever,
I like being aggressive on the golf course. It's not
fun to just chip out unless you absolutely have to.
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So I understand when guys, the first inclination and feeling
inside is gonna be like I can pull this shit
off now. One thing I saw Golf Channel, the dude
in studio was kind of critical of nap. When you're
in like the submerged, not in the lake, but in
that kind of mud area where you can step. You
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had to take a shoe off, you got to swing
out of your ass and just get the ball on
dry land, whether it's in the green or even deep
in the sand. And he kind of pussy footed it.
He didn't swing that hard and the ball barely went anywhere.
And all of a sudden, some dude no one's ever
heard of with a bucket hat who was at Pepperdine
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a couple of years ago, starts draining Birdie's nap falls
apart and he wins it pretty easily. But I do
believe as a sports fan watching an individual in the
lead on Sunday fuck Up is elite sports television. I
mean it's just like, this is crazy. Now. You never
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want to have money on that individual because the home
of thing my heart dropped when he hit it into
the bush, which in the air. It looked like a
good shot and even Max was surprised. But it happens.
And then I think, let big in more Cowa right
behind him hit the ball in the water. H Maybe
more Cowa was playing with Max hit the ball in
the water in eleven Yes, just what makes golf so fun?
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Okay, let's let's bang out a couple mail bag questions
here at golopod is the Instagram fire in those dms.
This was an old question that I saved that I
did want to answer because I think heading into the
to the Major season, it's going to be pretty interesting.
Just a quick thought after the US Open with Bryson
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winning the major season, Bryson has done better than Scotty.
Scotty won the Masters Bryson was tied for six the
PGA Championship, Scotty was eighth. Granted he went to jail.
Bryson was second. The US Open, he was tied for
forty one. Bryson was first. So Bryson is a first,
a second, and a sixth. Scotty had a fortieth, an
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eighth and a first. Is it a hot take to
say that Bryson is his rival and could challenge him
as the world number one if Bryson was on tour.
I do think if Bryson was on tour right now,
the way he has played in the majors the last
couple of years and specifically last season, I do think
we would be talking about him no differently than Scotty
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Rory Xander on a weekly basis, and I do think
going into majors now, he is considered on that level.
The way that he played in the PGA, the way
that he played in the US Open, and honestly, he
took a lot of shit because a couple of years
ago he called the US Open a par sixty seven
or something, and then I think he proceeded to miss
the cut. But I would say that if he can
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just be solid at the Masters, he is going to
be a major factor on a yearly basis in the
US Open and the PGA Championship. So even if he
doesn't win a Masters, and I would, I would say
it's definitely no lock for him to win a Masters.
But even last year, was he leading it when on
whole twelve he or no, it was whole thirteen he
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chunked that like third shot and he'd I think he
had like a seven or eight and it just kind
of lost him the tournament. But I think that was
on Saturday if I remember correctly. If he can just
be consistent at the Masters, like be a factor, that
that's gonna change the legacy because for a long time,
like he's never gonna do. The Masters is not gonna
be his thing, and the British Open probably is not
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gonna definitely not gonna be his thing because conditions are
always changing out there, slow greens. So I think the
British Open aka the Open Championship that I'd be stunned
if Bryceon never won that thing, won that thing, But
I think the US Open and the PGA Championship he
could win him on a yearly basis. I'm not saying
he's going to win him every year. But like it's
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never shocking either one of those tournaments. If it's like
Bryson's type for the League going into Sunday, and then
I think the Masters was a little bit of a
wild card because like I do think he's gonna be
able to figure this out, and then he kind of did.
And the one thing they've always said is like a
you know, you got to hit a draw, and what
does he hit? He hits a draw. You know why
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Bubba have success there? Lefty but he hits a fade.
Phil Mickelson left you, but he can hit a faith Obviously,
you can hit cuts there. I mean more Cow had
success last year. But uh yeah, I mean I think
Bryson is just a major, major factor. My parents recently
moved from New York to Myrtle Beach. The main reason
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is for the golf courses. My father calls it the
golf capital of the world because there are ninety plus
golf courses including the dunes. In your opinion, which city,
state is your golf capital of the world. That's a
good question. I would say that Myrtle Beach is you
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could argue as the golf capital of the South. I'm biased.
It's not like I've lived here, what three years now,
three and a half years. I would say on the
West coast, it's pretty hard to beat the Greater Phoenix
area when it comes to golf. I mean, there is
a golf course. It's hard to drive down a somewhat
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major roadway and not see a golf course every couple
of miles. So I can't speak to Myrtle Beach. I've
always wanted to go. Like you said that, there's definitely
a shitload of golf courses there, But I would put
I think you'd almost have to split it up into
regions because the Greater Phoenix area, for the West Coast,
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there's nothing like this. There is so much golf here
it is outrageous. And I'm talking private courses. I'm talking
public courses. I'm talking muni courses, I'm talking putt putts,
I'm talking grass clippings, night golf that there is. I
would put this as year round. I mean, I would
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imagine Myrtle Beach the same way, beside the occasional like
hurricane or something. But I do believe that this could
go toe to toe. Now I'm not saying that of like,
I want to go to Myrtle Beach, and that is
a place that I will attend with my golf clubs
in the next couple of years. I cracked a smile
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hearing you talk about what to do about the wedding
ring while golfing. My regular foursome all got married about
the same time and this was a topic of conversation.
Our solution was regular wedding ring on a daily basis,
but silicone ring when doing other activities involving your hands.
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I found my finger can swell a bit when golfing,
especially when it's warm, the ring can get a bit tight.
A silicon ring solves that problem. I think he was
alluding to when I talked about what do you do
with the ring when you golf? What about when you lift?
What about when you just do activities? And I've talked
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to people that say they never take it off. I've
talked to people that say they take it off all
the time. My problem is this, I would say, the
only thing that I haven't come close to losing is
like my nice watch. But that's pretty big and I'm
not a huge watch guy, so I only wear it
pick and shoes. But I've never been in a position
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where I've misplaced it. I lose my car keys all
the time. I lose my sunglasses every day, I lose
my wallet. I don't even know where it is right now,
no clue. So a ring which is smaller than all those.
I lose my stanley. Look how big my Stanley is.
I forget this thing at the gym. I'm like every
other day it's like, oh, I gotta pull back around
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because I left my Stanley in the locker room. That
ring I can't take off because if I take that
thing off, it will not be found. And I can
already see like I'll just take it off, put it
in the golf cart. Well, it's one thing if if
it's your golf cart, But if I'm at some random
course or a TPC all of a sudden, think how
many times I've lost my my little rangefinder. So that's
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what scares me, the move of even if I have
a backup one taking it off and putting some else on,
I can see that thing go bye bye. I also
was torn, like do you go do you go black?
Do you go silver? Do you go silver? And black?
Do you go gold? I just went silver? I guess
some old school traditional don't hate the black though I
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couldn't go gold. Just saw an update that Bryson has
yet to sign a two hundred and eighty million dollar
extension would Live with potential to return to the tour.
I know all the Live players are currently banned, but
if it were to change, do you see more players
return to the PGA because of Live slowly dying out
and no one caring about it. I really think that
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these guys will look back and go, we just cashed
out for a couple of years, nothing changed. We cashed
out for a couple of years, come back, and honestly
we have more intrigue. You know, if you're Bryce and
people forget. I wouldn't say he was polarized. I'd say
most people didn't like him. People made fun of him.
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Now part of that was Keepka was had much more
support obviously. The part of my take, guys like him
seems as more of a cool guy. Bryson was a
nerd and everyone talks shit and then eventually kept gun
him just became buddies and Bryson's YouTube channel took off
like a rocket ship. He's playing golf with Tom Brady,
Tony Romo and just everyone under the sun and people
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just like the dude. So now Bryson's popularity feels like
he's the biggest star in golf, and that includes Scotti,
Scheffler and ry McElroy. So I would say Tiger's the
most famous, But right now, the biggest star actively playing
is Bryson d Schambeau. So whatever the PGA Tour has
to do to get that guy in tournaments whenever this
thing merges, is the most important thing. Honestly, It's more
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important than rom and Koepka, and those guys are important.
But having Bryson d Chambeau compete, like at the players
or at the waste management at riv at Jack's tournament,
just at some of these tournaments, whenever it finally does happen,
will be a big fucking deal. And I think by
far he will be the biggest draw of the group.
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And I think he will come back. You know, Michael
Jordan was extremely popular and then all of a sudden
he goes to play for the minor league team. When
he came back, he was bigger than ever. I'll never forget.
I mean, I was probably twel years old turning on
that game when he came out at MSG in forty five,
Like it's a little bit and again I'm not comparing
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Bryson d. Chambeau to Michael Jordan, but relative to like
the golf world that moment, he will be by far
of all the guys, even if Kopka's there, Ram's there,
will be the number one guy we talk about and
be the number one guy I want to watch. I'd
be interested, like what will his odds be his first
PGA tournament? Like is he nine to one?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Guy?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Are we getting him fourteen to one? The odds on
some of the live guys is gonna be fascinating. I
think the sad part is and I've loved this guy
and I've gambled on him a lot, and I've won
some money on him over the years. Is DJ's just done?
You know, DJ is what twelve thirteen years younger in Phil, Phil,
It's understandable. He's fifty three to fifty four years old.
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You're just not as good at golf. You can't compete
with the younger guys. Like, okay, I get it. Whatever,
you become a YouTube guy with Grant totally understand DJ
basically is like, yeah, I'm over. I'm just done. Someone
asked me the other day, what are the chances that
Dustin Johnson, over the course of the last six months
has just actively went to the range and like really practiced,
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not like hit a couple of balls before he went
to play, like with his buddies or with his brother
or just around you know, playing high level guys, but
just went and grinded. Does feel like kind of small.
It does feel like those days for him are over.
Which listen, you grind for fifteen twenty years, you make
all this money, you get paid out for Live. When
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he first went to Live, he was kicking the shit
out of everybody. I'm a big DJ guy, but it's
kind of sad. He does feel like his career is over.
And I do commend Bryson. Now he's way younger, he
has a lot more to accomplish, but like, it does
feel like Bryson. Listen, Bryson's a golf nerd. Bryson honestly
is much more like Phil and Tiger in terms of
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just thinks about golf twenty four seven, three sixty five.
That's like Tom and Peyton Manning, Like those guys think
and talk about football all the time, like Belichick and
Andy Reid, right, And that's kind of the Bryson of golf,
Like he's a junkie. He's gonna be in to golf
the rest of his life. It defines his life, which
I respect, like he takes it very, very seriously. That's
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never been the case with Dustin Johnson. He was just
an elite talent and kept GOA was somewhere in the middle.
I think he cares about it a lot more than
he portrays, and he just loves to compete. And I
think Bryson is like the Phil Tiger Nerdy who also
likes to compete. So I'm pretty I get fired up
like every human for the majors just because it's I
kind of mis seeing these guys. Would you ever consider
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a prop bet talk, enjoy the golf talk, and regard
your schedule. I think it's perfect because the PGA picks
up from February September. The last major tournament is the
Ryder Cup in September, not really missing much. Totally agree.
My thing is I yeah, I mean I will talk whatever.
I don't do that many prop bets, and maybe I'm
an outlier like the things I bet when it comes
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to golf, our top tens and twenties. I used to
just bet winners, and then you realize, like that there's
a reason morons play the lottery. Unless my mom plays
the lottery. I tell her all the time, like we
got to stop doing this, like just go do something,
buy something else, just keep your money, stop playing the lottery.
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And I think sometimes betting on people to win, which
I still do, it's just very, very difficult. Now It's
easier to hit a winner in golf than it is
playing the lottery. Well, my point is I've really transitioned
to top tens, the top twenties, and I've had a
lot of success over the years. But in terms of
like individual matchups, you know, this guy versus this guy
on an individual day, I don't really play now. The
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one thing I've dabbled in, especially around the majors, are
like the groups, they basically pick five guys. So for
the Masters, that'll be like Scottie, Rory Xander, rom cam
Smith or you know, I'm trying to Ludvic and and
you know, starting with Scotty he'll be like plus one
fifty and Ludwig might be four to one, and you
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you're just betting against those five guys whoever has the
best score at the end of seventy two holes. So
you can get led big five to one just against
four other guys. Now you're playing the best guys sometimes
like the second tiers or third tiers. It's like kind
of random guys. It'll be like Max Homer, It'll be
like Shane Lowry, it'll be like Jason Day, Victor Hoveland.
Like that's probably as proppy as I'll get. I've done
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this before, but you talk about lottery tickets, first round leader,
there can't be a bigger hail Mary. It's professional golf.
All these guys on any given day can shoot seven,
eight nine. Major is a little harder. But we just
saw Jake Napp shoot a fifty nine. No one in
the world thinks when Thursday starts, you know this guy's
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gonna shoot a fifty nine. But it's like you can
get sixty to one odds for one round. I've dabbled
a little bit in that, but that's probably as proppy
as I've ever got. I think it's a little easier
prop betting in football or basketball when it's like Steph's
gonna score over twenty four points. You know, Debo's gonna
have sixty yards. Jalen Hurts is gonna score two touchdowns.
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I guess there's some of the birdie ones making miss
the cut. I don't hate, but that's a little like
over and unders, Like I don't like rooting for guys
to miss the cut, but sometimes the guys not playing well,
it's not a bad bet. Yeah, but overall, that'll do
it for go Lo appreciate everybody. I think I'll do
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a podcast tomorrow on some football stuff. I think I
saw Maria mentioned before I walked in here to Devonte
Adams got cut, which is not shocking. Of course, you
had a forty million dollar cap hit. But other than that,
have a great day, and let's win a little money
this week. Lowry Top twenty, Ludwig Hideki top tens. Let's
get it. Okay, we just probably within the last thirty minutes,
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had some breaking news and I wanted to jump on
and do give a quick reaction to what happened. Saquon
Barkley got a contract extension. He got like thirty five
million more guaranteed dollars, and he now jumps McCaffrey, who
last year I think got a big raise right before
the season, and then he couldn't even play at like
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eighteen nineteen million dollars a year. Now, now Saquon's making
over twenty and if you factor in the guarantees of
thirty six plus the twenty seven from last year, you
know you're still guaranteeing a running back fifty million dollars.
But I think a couple things. One, Howie Roseman knows
his locker room, and when he was at the combine,
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I saw him tell Florio that he thought that Saquon
had the greatest season in the history of a running
back in NFL history. Now I'd have to get like
Parcels and Belichick on the horn here, some historians, to
some people at NFL films, but clearly it was an
all time great season. I do think it would be
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tough to go in. It's essentially his contract here. He's
signed a three year deal, but he only got twenty
seven guaranteed, So you do the math. I mean, the
last season's kind of fake, so you want to take
care of the guy. But when you have, he's still
the seventh highest paid guy on his own offense. They
got two tackles making a ton. Landon Dickerson makes a boatload,
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quarterback makes a ton. Wide receivers make a lot. So
it's like, even with getting this extra extension guarantee, relative
to some of these guys on his own team, it's
not like he is by far the highest paid guy.
They got a lot of guys making a lot of dough.
But you can't have Saquon making half as much as
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all these other guys. Forty nine ers were in this
position last year. Now, they wouldn't have done it if
they knew McCaffrey had all these injuries going on, these
phantom injuries. Saque's clearly healthy. But it's pretty tough to
walk in and going, yeah, I'm making a third of
what like Devonte Smith's making, like that would be a
problem for me as a human being, or I'm making
you know, forty percent, right the human dynamics. Forever Belichick
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used to talk about this. He would trade down in
the first round because he struggled. And this is before
like twenty eleven, once the CBA changed the amount of
money guys could make in the draft. But if you
drafted a player in the first round, depending on where
they would make, I mean if you had the number
one or top five pick, they would often be the
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highest paid guy in your locker room. But even if
you somehow got to like the late teens or early twenties,
that guy would be making more than a majority of
guys on your team. So you would bring in a
dude from college who immediately is making more than like
a pro bowler who still on a rookie contract. It
might be a third round or a fourth round. And listen,
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I don't care what industry you work in. I don't
care how much money you make, whether it's fifty dollars
or fifty million dollars. Competitive people, competitive men judge themselves
financially against others, and in a profession like football, when
it's well known who's making what, like I do think
you had to make them whole, and making a guy
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hole at running back is still a bargain like you're
not having to give. Like if you trade for Miles
Garrett because of his position and you give him an extension,
or you traded for Max Crosby and give him an extension,
you are talking one hundred million plus Miles Garrett probably
talking like one hundred and forty million dollars. Micah Parson
wants a new contract. That number is going to be astronomical.
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Saquon Barkley, who clearly we do this all the time
with quarterbacks, right, It's about the fit. Who's your offensive court,
who are your skilled guys around you, who's your offensive line,
who's designed in the plays. It's no different with elite
running backs. Saquon Barkley, giants like kind of overrated, not
that great Christian McCaffrey with the Panthers, guy washed. Get
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with the right guy, get in the right fit. Hall
of Fame talents rise. You could put Micah Parsons on
any team, he's gonna look good. You could put Miles
Garrett on any team, he's gonna look good. You could
put Darrell Reeves on any team in his prime, he's
gonna lock you down. That is not the case with
a lot offensive players. As a wide receiver, I need
someone to throw me the ball. Many years Larry Fitzgerald
played with shitty quarterbacks. It impacts you. You see Saquon
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Barkley Hall of Fame talent. I do not understand. Now,
did anyone know he was gonna help lead the Eagles
to the Super Bowl and run for twenty five hundred yards.
Kyie Roseman didn't know that, but anyone with a fucking
pulse knew the moment the Eagles signed him. It's like, guys,
they have the best offensive line in the league. Guys,
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they have a dual threat quarterback and they will run
RPOs with them, and they got sweet wide receivers in
a tight end. This is going to work. Now at
what level? I don't know. Is he gonna be a pro? Like,
he's probably gonna be a Pro bowler if he stays healthy,
and then he becomes like first team All Pro elite.
It's like plug and play. The only question it turns
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out with guys like McCaffrey and Saquon when they get
in the right place is health. Because if they're healthy
and they're with the right team and the right play caller,
buckle up and get out of the way because they're
kicking your ass. And I just think at the price
point in which you pay these elite guys, it's still
a bargain. And this also shows like Jeffrey Lurie spends
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more actual cash than all these other teams. And it's
a great place to play if you're a good player
because you will get compensated and they will keep you
around what Saquon has going for him. Obviously relative to
other positions, he's not that expensive, but they are around
him for a year and they're like, we love this guy. Wait,
you're telling me this super high character, great player who
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is a superstar in the town. Everyone loves them. Like
that's the type guy you build your franchise around. And Saquon,
in a weird way take some pressure off the quarterback
on and off the field because of this starter. And
you know you hear this in the NBA, this argument
which is so stupid about like who's the face of
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the league. It's like, guys, we determine that shit. The
face of the leagues were always determined by I don't know,
the most popular player, Magic, Larry Michael, Kobe, Lebron Steph.
Like this isn't a complicated formula. The media doesn't choose it,
the fans the consumer does. And like Saquon is someone
who just resonates with people. He is a fun player
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to watch. He is a fan friendly player. Whether you're
an Eagles fan or you like the NFL, you're gonna
like Saquon Barkley his approval rate, and this is true
with most star running backs. Barry Sanders, you did not
need to be a Detroit Lions fan. You could have
been the Packers of the Vikings. Everyone like Barry Sanders.
I mean everyone likes Saquon Barkley. A couple of years ago,
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I didn't hear anyone saying a negative thing about Christian McCaffrey.
Walter Payton's approval rating was pretty freaking high. Everyone likes
watching Derrick Henry play football. Players who run with the
football are enjoyable to watch. And I think when you
factor in all the variables, this is an easy decision
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for the Eagles, and like it just shows you now.
Saguan was the number two overall pick, so he made
a lot of money on his rookie deal. I mean,
as much as you humanly can in this rookie scale.
But like sometimes getting drafted super high, if you are
a really talented player, can really stunt your growth. It
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can really put you in a position that is not fair.
I say this all the time. I have a ton
of admiration for honestly, even college players. I can't imagine
being twenty twenty one years old and someone paying me
nine hundred and fifty thousand dollars, I would what would
you eat? Where would you even start? I don't even.
I mean I can't even. And then the pressure of
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these guys that get drafted really high and get a
thirty million dollars signing bonus, but then go to a
team that sucks and be a part of an operation
that's awful, and be a part of a roster that stinks.
Like to keep yourself it's so easy as you get older,
and I do this a lot, like, hey, keep your
head up. Times are gonna get better, the sun comes up.
No matter how shitty your day is. Adversity's gonna hit
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us all because all that cliche stuff is true for
every human being. There is no avoiding problems. But ideally,
the older you get, it's easier to handle. Like imagine
being like twenty three, twenty four or twenty five and
handling all this shit. Now you could say, listen, I'd
rather handle this stuff as a young guy and still
be rich. True, I would rather handle problems with a
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bunch of money in the bank than no money in
the bank and having problems. Totally agree. I'm not disputing
that but I do think for the most part, these
guys do a really good job. You know, look like
at Sam Darnold resurrecting his career, like never was really
a problem, even through when everyone was taking a gigantic
dump on the guy's career. You know, Baker handled it
probably like most of us would have little like, Okay,
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I'll fight back a little bit. Don't blame him, but
I think Saquon everything he went through with the Giants,
and listen, he wouldn't have been as good on the Giants.
We all understand that. But this continues to age. Like
John Morris sitting there, the owner of the fucking team said,
I don't know if I can sleep at night. You
know why, because he's got a pulse, he's got a brain.
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He understands like this is their arrival. They are the
team right down the road, and he understands they're good,
like they got a bunch of talent, like this is
probably gonna go well, and it couldn't have gone any better.
DeVante Adams was also traded right or not or I
mean cut today. He was traded last during the season,
but like that was kind of obviously, eh. I don't
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know if this is gonna work. This thing's weird, and
then what happened. It got weirder and this didn't work,
and now he's just available and it's just his career
ever since. Like him and Rogers, like I want out
of Green Bay. It's like, are you guys sure? Do
you guys understand? Like Saquon got there, And sometimes I
think it helps you know, DeVante was drafted into a
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team with the Packers that is just one of the
most well run operations in all the sports. Now, you
can nitpick they're not as good as some of these teams,
but they are consistently, always solid. More than likely they're
gonna win ten to twelve games every single year. So
it's like Devonte kind of got some first class problems,
which I we're all human beings. I don't care where
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you are. I say this all the time about my job.
I'm a podcaster. Like my jobs problems relative to a
guy digging ditches or tough manual labor jobs, I can't relate.
But I don't care what you do. Everything that you
do for a living. Eventually, even the coolest stuff. You
could be the starting quarterback for one of the NFL teams.
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Eventually can feel some monotonous characteristics of your profession and
it becomes a job and it feels like a job.
But you know, you look at DeVante, it's like you
had it pretty good. And I think Saquan's like, I
realize what the NFL was. It's hard, it's humbling, you
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get your ass kicked more often than not most places.
And he comes to the Eagles and he goes, god,
I got it pretty well. I would say the same
thing for Stafford and props to him, and McVeigh kind
of alluded to this with McAfee, like when it comes out,
everyone will realize, damn, he did us a favor. And
I give Stafford credit because listen, it's easy for me
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to say, like, you've already have a bunch of money.
The difference between fifty million dollars, that's a lot of money.
I don't care how much money got in the bank.
It's easy for a bunch of poor people to tell
you what to do with your money. And I would
include myself. I'm guilty of this, but I also give
you credit when you realize the money's not gonna change
my life, given I'm so rich. So I got a
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pretty good spot. I understand what that Andy Douframe gift
of him getting through you know, the sewer and out
to that little river and looking up at the sky.
That's these guys getting away from the Giants, getting away
from the Detroit Lions, to the Eagles to the Rams.
Like it doesn't get any better than that. It doesn't
mean you're gonna win the super Bowl every year, it
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doesn't mean every year is gonna be easy, but like
you're part of high level football team with an elite
operation that has a chance. When the season starts. Every
single year, the Giants have no shot. They have no
fucking shot. Detroit pre Dan Campbell for the most part,
had no shot. And I just think I'm always excited
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when elite players get put in good positions, when elite
players who were good guys, like they weren't the problem,
they weren't the reason their team was losing. And seeing
Saquon get paid a bunch uh, it just seems. I mean,
I've been watching him like a lot of people since
he played at Penn State. He's he's just an easy
player to watch. It's just fun and having him on
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a good team, like just like Steph Curry It's much
more enjoyable to watch Steph when the Warriors are good
because he's an easy watch. And I'm not even that
big of a basketball fan anymore, but now Jimmy Butler's
there's like, give me Steph, And that's how I feel.
Saque's like I Saquon any given game, go for two fifty.
I'm fucking in. So congrats to Saquon Barkley. Conglass to
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Howie to keep this thing rolling. If I'm an Eagle fan,
I'm pretty fired up right now. The volume
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
What is going on everybody? How are we doing? John
Middlecoff and a little go low podcast with a little
Saquon Barkley talk at the end. So we're gonna talk
a little golf in regards to We've got the Arnold
Palmer Bayhill this weekend, all elevated event, all the stars there.
A couple of weeks we got the players. We had
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Fred Couples go on local radio say Koepka is ready
to return. We had my guy Jake Knapp, who I
think moved to Scottsdale within the last year. I see
him sometimes at TPC. Looked like he was gonna win
a second tournament of the year and then had a disaster,
And I just wanted to talk disasters as a whole
because they are riven to watch. We also will do
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a We do it all the time every single week
for this podcast at golo pod. Is the Instagram at
golo pod, fire your dms any questions regarding golf to
get to get on the mail bag on this podcast. Obviously,
do a football one is just my normal Instagram. I
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like to separate it for golf. It's just easier to
find him at golopod. Is the way to do it.
So make sure you subscribe to the podcast on Collins Feed.
Everything's up on YouTube. I did a little Saquon reaction
for YouTube, but I put the audio here at the
end of this podcast because he just got a big
extension and I wanted to talk about it. So little
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golf talk, a little golf mail bag, and a little
Saquon Barkley, who just became an even richer man. So
but other than that, I did want to start with.
This does start to feel like right around the players
is when you get Master commercials. And I'm a sucker
for the West Coast Swing. I mean those that stretch
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pebble waste. I know RIV didn't happen this year because
of the fires, and I would include Tori as well,
has a soft spot for me. Even Hawaii, there's nothing
like the I mean, it used to be the Tournament
of Champions. Now they allow like I don't know, just
random people in but those views in Honolulu or in Kapalua,
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the water in the background. I've never played, and my
brothers played it a couple times. It's just it really
kind of like, God, I want to be in Hawaii,
And I would say right around now, it feels like, okay,
the golf starting to get real, and this week the
Arnold Palmer with the elevated event. You know, Xander's back, obviously, Scottie, Rory, Ludwig,
jt all the big dogs are there, and then in
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a couple of weeks we have the players and then
it feels like major seasons on. And I think sometimes
with these golf tournaments. Again, if you're listening to this,
you're probably a pretty big but listen, we get a
lot of people that play golf that don't watch golf,
that consume this content. And that was such a cheesy thing.
Consume this content. I'm saying, listen to me talk about golf.
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But ultimately, like the last couple of weeks the Mexico opened,
the cognizant aren't really doing it for most. And I
completely understand there's a star studded sport in the sense
of you need stars to get people to pay attention. Tennis,
any individual sport is that way. You can't roll out
randoms and expect people to care. And I think anytime
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that these guys all play together. We saw a couple
of weeks ago with Toy we saw at pebble with
Rory that the bigger names in the mix, people will
watch and you'll get three four million people watching on
a Sunday, which in this climate is really good. I
mean NBA games without Lebron James or Steph Curry are
not sniffing four million people. And I think anything you
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can hope is when these guys are together. And I
think the whole hard part about golf is like in
a perfect world, you would start to see, you know,
Rory's already won, Scotty's coming back off the injury, Ludviig's
already won a deck, he's already won. So the top
guys heading into the majors with Bryson Koepka and kind
of that crew waiting hopefully it's and hopefully John Romby
gets a shit together. It's like a perfect emergence of
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all the stars playing well. And then all of a
sudden you look at the Master's leader board and four
of those eight names are in the mix on Saturday
and Sunday. That's all you could ask for. And I
think right now is when you start to see, you know,
Rory's look really good this season. Obviously Ludwig if he
hadn't gotten sick, might have multiple victories. You know, Scotty
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is going to be just fine. I think the wild
card is Xander coming off the injury. We'll have to
give him a little time, but if he feels good,
like there's a chance this major season. You know Bryson,
how good he looked last year in the majors. It's exciting.
And listen this tournament. I think my full from a
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gambling standpoint, I'm gonna hammer Ludvig every single week as
a top ten. The moment I won what bet did
I win Tony Fenow to like top ten? I think
at Tory and he kind of backdoored it. Maybe no,
it's top five and I turned one thousand into fifteen hundred.
I immediately put one thousand dollars on Ludwig to win
the Players, and then I put another five hundred on
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him to win the Masters. But I will also hammer him.
That was kind of spur of the moment. I will
hammer him every single week to top ten because right
now he's played in four events and he's top ten
and two of them and one of them he was
leading after Thursday, and then he got deathly ill and
we all know people this flu season. I mean the
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flu came out of retirement a couple of years ago
and came back with a fucking vengeance. That thing just
went away like Michael Jordan started playing baseball and then
it came back, like, holy shit, it hit me twice.
So I just played golf with my buddy Pong on Saturday.
He said he was in shambles for like two weeks.
He said, the worst part is I had to give
presentations for work, and he's like, this was I owned
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the company, so I couldn't exactly not show up. I'm like, yeah, bro,
I had it the chills. You just feel like you
couldn't move. So there's a chance. I don't know if
Ludwig would have won at Toy, but I think it's
fair to say that he would have had three top
tens in four events. So to me, auto hammer, Ludvig
drives it straight, hits his irons peer. Now, historically at
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this course, they grow out the rough around the greens.
You would say, short game can be a little bit
of a bug boo for the guy, but I would
be stunned if he's not in the mix. And I
think the same could be said for Rory, for Scotty,
I also like Adecki, who's just been playing really well.
So Mike Parlay this week, and the guys I'm hammering
are led big to top ten, a decy to top ten.
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I do think Shane Lowry won. He's been playing really
good golf. Last year, he I think was tied for
third in this event. He is a floor guy, lived
there for a long time, so he's very comfortable in
the environment. Plus is a big year for him, right
there's a Ryder Cup year. I think he's trying to
cement his status of like is he on the fringe
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to like, I'm a Locke Ryder Cup guy moving forward
until my game falls off a cliff, like just write
me in in sharpie. And I've been hammering him for
top twenties every week. He played well pretty well last week.
I just think you look at listen. The scary part
about the Ryder Cup is the Euros look good. I mean,
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obviously Rory, I think his wedge game over the over
the winner clearly puts some emphasis in that. And if
his wedge game improves by I don't know, five to
ten percent, right, because there were moments the last couple
of years. I thought it was pretty horrendous for an
all time great player. And if it becomes like I
don't want to say a strength, but something that is
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not a liability like he could easily have, I would
say a Scottie Rohm type all of a sudden rory
won three or four times and a major or two,
and these are the type tournaments where I would expect
him to be in the mix. Same thing with Adeki.
So I'm going Ludwig Lowry to top twenty and Ludwig
and Hideki to top ten. I don't hate if you
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go with Hideki to top twenty, but I think Ludwig
moving forward is a auto top ten hammer if you
can get him at plus one fifty or plus one
seventy five or plus one sixty. Like I just like
my chances on a weekly basis. Again, he is a
the flu coming around to having three top tens in
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four events, the other being a top five and a win.
So I just I think you gotta like your chances
with the young stallion Freddy Couples, who I'm just a
sucker for these old school guys going on local radio,
keeping you know, keeping that medium alive and Freddy just
calling in probably talking some sports bs about the Seattle
(09:00):
Seahawks offseason. I saw Mike McDonald was asked if he
could coach one player in league history, who would be?
I think he said like Lawrence Taylor. Of course he's
a defensive guy, but spiritual high in Seattle, well run operation,
good GM and Freddy Couples is fired up. Freddy Couples
diehard sports guy and a loyal, loyal PGA Tour guy.
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And he has for a guy that's not like playing
that regularly. I know he's played some Champions Tour, but
he has been extremely outspoken talking shit about the live
guys from the jump. Now he's biased. His wealth, his status,
where he stands in life is all created by the
PGA Tour, and you could say that was the same
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for every guy that went to Live. But he made
a comment this week on the radio show that Keopka
is one of his boys. It's one of his good buddies.
Obviously his BFF is Tiger, but he said that Koepka
wants to come back to the PGA Tour. And it's
pretty clear that a lot of these guys Keepka Bryson.
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I would say John Rahm, who's also been outspoken about
like he misses these events because you're just not getting
the same juice. I can't imagine. Like I totally understand
and I supported it. Is it was so easy for
everyone to get on the moral high horse. No I'm
the elite players and say, wait, why are you leaving?
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It's like, well, they just put one hundred and forty
five million dollars guaranteed in front of my face, and
then they say, if I play well in these events,
I can win like five million dollars, Like DJ won
fifty million dollars. I think the first couple years on Lift.
That doesn't even count the couple hundred million dollars they
paid him to leave. They gave Phil like two hundred,
two hundred and fifty million dollars and can't he's not
even good anymore. So when they aff for John Ram
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two to three hundred million dollars, like yeah, it's easy
for you to say no, just stay on the PGA tour,
keep playing the Arnold Palmer. It's like they just offered
me two hundred and seventy five million dollars and this
cool ass jacket. So I understand. But then after you
play there for a couple of years, you're like, I
kind of just miss being under the bright lights. I
miss being in the events that really matter, and beside
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the majors there are five or six events, and that's
what I'm fascinated to see, Like the integration of these
guys coming back, which feels inevitable. Are they gonna play
a normal schedule because if I was Kopka or I
was Bryson, Let's use Bryson as an example, because I
think Keoepka won. He never took regular events beside a
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couple that seriously, he was very successful at waste management
makes sense. Bright light event, you know the riv the
tory pines maybe like the players, but you think, like
you're not getting him to play random, non elevated events.
I do think what's gonna be fascinating for Bryson is
like he's built a pretty important thing on the internet
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and I can't imagine Bryson wanting to pivot off the YouTube.
And one thing the tour has always struggled with is
allowing these guys, and in fairness, they get so much
money from these TV partners that they don't want you
to rip the content like the CBS gets to own it.
It's why they pay all this money, and that's been
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the pushback guys like Bryson that Live allows them to
use any content they want. So I think they're gonna
have to find and strike some happy medium, because, let's
face it, they really need the three guys back, John
rom Bryson, d Chambeau and Brooks Koepka, and then you know,
for us golf nerds, the cam Smith's, the Wokie Nemans
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definitely add to it. But I think most people just
feel like, whenever this does come back, that this is
going to be normal again. I have a hard time
with that because if I just paid a couple hundred
million dollars, I would miss the juice, and I would
want some of the juice in sense of like I'd
want to play a waste, I'd want to play at
the Players, but some of these other events, like I
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didn't like doing that before I was super rich, I
don't plan on doing that now. And that's where I
think the disconnect has to be with some of these
players just just act like you're gonna do what we
tell you to do. It's hard to tell someone to
do something when they have more money than you and
they no longer really need you. Like especially Bryson, he
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just won a major. He's in them for the next
five years. Brooks last year won the PGA or two
years ago, like he's in majors for five years. Like
the DJ hasn't cared for five years, doesn't even matter
to him. But like those two guys, cam Smith won
the British Open a couple of years ago, Like, these
guys don't have to worry about getting into the major.
So bulling them around I think is going to be difficult.
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And one thing that's clear is like, and I saw
Alan Shipnak talking about this on Rapaport's YouTube show. That's
not Ian, that's Daniel, is these contracts are coming to
an end, right that these weren't eight year deals. This
wasn't Patrick mahomes Here's ten years, four and fifty million dollars.
It was like three or four years for a couple
hundred million dollars. And then they end, Well, it's like,
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are you gonna pay me another three hundred million dollars?
Are we gonna keep this going when twelve thousand people
are watching. That's what it does feel like. Probably not
now you can also never say never when you're dealing
with people with trillions of dollars with reserves that are
more than most major nations all around the world. So
I don't feel comfortable saying it speaking in absolutes about
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this situation, but it does feel like we're headed towards
somewhat of a resolution in the new year. I would
say year or two. I'm not confident it's gonna be
twenty twenty six. But I also am not confident that, like,
even when it's like, okay, they're quote unquote back together,
that it feels like what everyone thinks it's gonna look like, Oh,
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Bryce is just playing a schedule of fifteen events. I
don't know, because if I was him, it's like, now,
I'm gonna play some of the cool events, play the majors,
and I'm gonna do my YouTube stuff. Why because that's
making me a star. The majors make me a star.
Maybe the players maybe waste and Jack's tournament and YouTube.
So I don't think he's gonna pivot off that. I
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don't think brooks Kopka is gonna be like, oh, I'll
see you guys at the John Deeer the other thing
is one thing that is unique to golf is like
even in tennis, like you can start playing bad, hitting
the net and missing serves, but there is nothing like
a golf meltdown because it happens on an individual hole
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when a guy in the lead or in the mix
just has a disaster. And that's what happened to Jake
Nap on Sunday. And while it has to be just listen,
we all can relate if you play golf that all
of a sudden you're just kind of cruising on, playing
pretty good, and then you get a triple bogie, or
you hit two balls in the water, or you just
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hit one out of bounds, and then you three putt
and you're like, did I just make an eight on
a part five? It happens to all of us. The
difference is we're not playing on the PGA Tour and
we're not tied for the lead on whole eleven after
shooting a fifty nine on Thursday, and I was watching
on my couch when Jake Nap hits it into the
water and you're like, okay, he's gonna drop try to
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make a bogie here. Then he tries to hit it
out of the water because his balls kind of submerged
and does not get the ball out and it rolls
back in. Then he hits it again, and you just
for as awesome as great shots are, I think the
most riveting thing that can happen on television and professional
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golf is that I think it's just I can't believe
this is going on. And I would say the Cognizant
and Jake Nap on the scale of one to ten,
importance in the grand scheme of things is pretty low.
But when moments like that happen, Let's face it. I
had a decent amount of money last year on Max
Homa to win the Masters. I live bet him. I
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think I put one thousand dollars on him at like
fifteen to one on either Thursday or Friday, and we're
cruising on Sunday. I'm like, I think, I think this
is gonna happen. It's gonna be the biggest win or
one of them. I guess I hadn't hit my bryceon
d Chambeau Parlay that I would the US Open, which
is the biggest gambling win I've ever had. But it
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felt like I'm gonna do this, and then all of
a sudden hold twelve and he hits it into the bush,
and I immediately look, I have a cash out option
that I think I got like nine hundred and forty
dollars back, so I basically lost like sixty bucks night
immediately cash out. And then obviously he just he implotes.
I mean, anyone would have he's in a bush, what's
he gonna do? And that feeling when you're watching it.
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I think some of the biggest moments in the history
of golf are some of the big putts made or
the great shots made. But I actually think we think
about Jordan Speeth on twelve melting down, right, John Vandervelt
melting down, Greg Norman melting down, And sometimes a meltdown
can just be an awful shot, slash, an awful break
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And sometimes and I try to think about this, and
I do a terrible job of like should I just
hit out? Should I should I just chip out? Live
to fight another day. That's not fun. That is not
an enjoyable way to play golf. And even if you're
gambling with buddies and you can lose fifty bucks or whatever,
I like being aggressive on the golf course. It's not
fun to just chip out unless you absolutely have to.
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So I understand when guys, the first inclination and feeling
inside is gonna be like I can pull this shit
off now. One thing I saw Golf Channel, the dude
in studio was kind of critical of nap. When you're
in like the submerged, not in the lake, but in
that kind of mud area where you can step. You
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had to take a shoe off, you got to swing
out of your ass and just get the ball on
dry land, whether it's in the green or even deep
in the sand. And he kind of pussy footed it.
He didn't swing that hard and the ball barely went anywhere.
And all of a sudden, some dude no one's ever
heard of with a bucket hat who was at Pepperdine
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a couple of years ago, starts draining Birdie's nap falls
apart and he wins it pretty easily. But I do
believe as a sports fan watching an individual in the
lead on Sunday fuck Up is elite sports television. I
mean it's just like, this is crazy. Now. You never
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want to have money on that individual because the home
of thing my heart dropped when he hit it into
the bush, which in the air. It looked like a
good shot and even Max was surprised. But it happens.
And then I think, let big in more Cowa right
behind him hit the ball in the water. H Maybe
more Cowa was playing with Max hit the ball in
the water in eleven Yes, just what makes golf so fun?
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Okay, let's let's bang out a couple mail bag questions
here at golopod is the Instagram fire in those dms.
This was an old question that I saved that I
did want to answer because I think heading into the
to the Major season, it's going to be pretty interesting.
Just a quick thought after the US Open with Bryson
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winning the major season, Bryson has done better than Scotty.
Scotty won the Masters Bryson was tied for six the
PGA Championship, Scotty was eighth. Granted he went to jail.
Bryson was second. The US Open, he was tied for
forty one. Bryson was first. So Bryson is a first,
a second, and a sixth. Scotty had a fortieth, an
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eighth and a first. Is it a hot take to
say that Bryson is his rival and could challenge him
as the world number one if Bryson was on tour.
I do think if Bryson was on tour right now,
the way he has played in the majors the last
couple of years and specifically last season, I do think
we would be talking about him no differently than Scotty
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Rory Xander on a weekly basis, and I do think
going into majors now, he is considered on that level.
The way that he played in the PGA, the way
that he played in the US Open, and honestly, he
took a lot of shit because a couple of years
ago he called the US Open a par sixty seven
or something, and then I think he proceeded to miss
the cut. But I would say that if he can
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just be solid at the Masters, he is going to
be a major factor on a yearly basis in the
US Open and the PGA Championship. So even if he
doesn't win a Masters, and I would, I would say
it's definitely no lock for him to win a Masters.
But even last year, was he leading it when on
whole twelve he or no, it was whole thirteen he
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chunked that like third shot and he'd I think he
had like a seven or eight and it just kind
of lost him the tournament. But I think that was
on Saturday if I remember correctly. If he can just
be consistent at the Masters, like be a factor, that
that's gonna change the legacy because for a long time,
like he's never gonna do. The Masters is not gonna
be his thing, and the British Open probably is not
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gonna definitely not gonna be his thing because conditions are
always changing out there, slow greens. So I think the
British Open aka the Open Championship that I'd be stunned
if Bryceon never won that thing, won that thing, But
I think the US Open and the PGA Championship he
could win him on a yearly basis. I'm not saying
he's going to win him every year. But like it's
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never shocking either one of those tournaments. If it's like
Bryson's type for the League going into Sunday, and then
I think the Masters was a little bit of a
wild card because like I do think he's gonna be
able to figure this out, and then he kind of did.
And the one thing they've always said is like a
you know, you got to hit a draw, and what
does he hit? He hits a draw. You know why
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Bubba have success there? Lefty but he hits a fade.
Phil Mickelson left you, but he can hit a faith Obviously,
you can hit cuts there. I mean more Cow had
success last year. But uh yeah, I mean I think
Bryson is just a major, major factor. My parents recently
moved from New York to Myrtle Beach. The main reason
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is for the golf courses. My father calls it the
golf capital of the world because there are ninety plus
golf courses including the dunes. In your opinion, which city,
state is your golf capital of the world. That's a
good question. I would say that Myrtle Beach is you
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could argue as the golf capital of the South. I'm biased.
It's not like I've lived here, what three years now,
three and a half years. I would say on the
West coast, it's pretty hard to beat the Greater Phoenix
area when it comes to golf. I mean, there is
a golf course. It's hard to drive down a somewhat
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major roadway and not see a golf course every couple
of miles. So I can't speak to Myrtle Beach. I've
always wanted to go. Like you said that, there's definitely
a shitload of golf courses there, But I would put
I think you'd almost have to split it up into
regions because the Greater Phoenix area, for the West Coast,
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there's nothing like this. There is so much golf here
it is outrageous. And I'm talking private courses. I'm talking
public courses. I'm talking muni courses, I'm talking putt putts,
I'm talking grass clippings, night golf that there is. I
would put this as year round. I mean, I would
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imagine Myrtle Beach the same way, beside the occasional like
hurricane or something. But I do believe that this could
go toe to toe. Now I'm not saying that of like,
I want to go to Myrtle Beach, and that is
a place that I will attend with my golf clubs
in the next couple of years. I cracked a smile
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hearing you talk about what to do about the wedding
ring while golfing. My regular foursome all got married about
the same time and this was a topic of conversation.
Our solution was regular wedding ring on a daily basis,
but silicone ring when doing other activities involving your hands.
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I found my finger can swell a bit when golfing,
especially when it's warm, the ring can get a bit tight.
A silicon ring solves that problem. I think he was
alluding to when I talked about what do you do
with the ring when you golf? What about when you lift?
What about when you just do activities? And I've talked
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to people that say they never take it off. I've
talked to people that say they take it off all
the time. My problem is this, I would say, the
only thing that I haven't come close to losing is
like my nice watch. But that's pretty big and I'm
not a huge watch guy, so I only wear it
pick and shoes. But I've never been in a position
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where I've misplaced it. I lose my car keys all
the time. I lose my sunglasses every day, I lose
my wallet. I don't even know where it is right now,
no clue. So a ring which is smaller than all those.
I lose my stanley. Look how big my Stanley is.
I forget this thing at the gym. I'm like every
other day it's like, oh, I gotta pull back around
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because I left my Stanley in the locker room. That
ring I can't take off because if I take that
thing off, it will not be found. And I can
already see like I'll just take it off, put it
in the golf cart. Well, it's one thing if if
it's your golf cart, But if I'm at some random
course or a TPC all of a sudden, think how
many times I've lost my my little rangefinder. So that's
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what scares me, the move of even if I have
a backup one taking it off and putting some else on,
I can see that thing go bye bye. I also
was torn, like do you go do you go black?
Do you go silver? Do you go silver? And black?
Do you go gold? I just went silver? I guess
some old school traditional don't hate the black though I
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couldn't go gold. Just saw an update that Bryson has
yet to sign a two hundred and eighty million dollar
extension would Live with potential to return to the tour.
I know all the Live players are currently banned, but
if it were to change, do you see more players
return to the PGA because of Live slowly dying out
and no one caring about it. I really think that
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these guys will look back and go, we just cashed
out for a couple of years, nothing changed. We cashed
out for a couple of years, come back, and honestly
we have more intrigue. You know, if you're Bryce and
people forget. I wouldn't say he was polarized. I'd say
most people didn't like him. People made fun of him.
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Now part of that was Keepka was had much more
support obviously. The part of my take, guys like him
seems as more of a cool guy. Bryson was a
nerd and everyone talks shit and then eventually kept gun
him just became buddies and Bryson's YouTube channel took off
like a rocket ship. He's playing golf with Tom Brady,
Tony Romo and just everyone under the sun and people
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just like the dude. So now Bryson's popularity feels like
he's the biggest star in golf, and that includes Scotti,
Scheffler and ry McElroy. So I would say Tiger's the
most famous, But right now, the biggest star actively playing
is Bryson d Schambeau. So whatever the PGA Tour has
to do to get that guy in tournaments whenever this
thing merges, is the most important thing. Honestly, It's more
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important than rom and Koepka, and those guys are important.
But having Bryson d Chambeau compete, like at the players
or at the waste management at riv at Jack's tournament,
just at some of these tournaments, whenever it finally does happen,
will be a big fucking deal. And I think by
far he will be the biggest draw of the group.
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And I think he will come back. You know, Michael
Jordan was extremely popular and then all of a sudden
he goes to play for the minor league team. When
he came back, he was bigger than ever. I'll never forget.
I mean, I was probably twel years old turning on
that game when he came out at MSG in forty five,
Like it's a little bit and again I'm not comparing
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Bryson d. Chambeau to Michael Jordan, but relative to like
the golf world that moment, he will be by far
of all the guys, even if Kopka's there, Ram's there,
will be the number one guy we talk about and
be the number one guy I want to watch. I'd
be interested, like what will his odds be his first
PGA tournament? Like is he nine to one?
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Guy?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Are we getting him fourteen to one? The odds on
some of the live guys is gonna be fascinating. I
think the sad part is and I've loved this guy
and I've gambled on him a lot, and I've won
some money on him over the years. Is DJ's just done?
You know, DJ is what twelve thirteen years younger in Phil, Phil,
It's understandable. He's fifty three to fifty four years old.
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You're just not as good at golf. You can't compete
with the younger guys. Like, okay, I get it. Whatever,
you become a YouTube guy with Grant totally understand DJ
basically is like, yeah, I'm over. I'm just done. Someone
asked me the other day, what are the chances that
Dustin Johnson, over the course of the last six months
has just actively went to the range and like really practiced,
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not like hit a couple of balls before he went
to play, like with his buddies or with his brother
or just around you know, playing high level guys, but
just went and grinded. Does feel like kind of small.
It does feel like those days for him are over.
Which listen, you grind for fifteen twenty years, you make
all this money, you get paid out for Live. When
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he first went to Live, he was kicking the shit
out of everybody. I'm a big DJ guy, but it's
kind of sad. He does feel like his career is over.
And I do commend Bryson. Now he's way younger, he
has a lot more to accomplish, but like, it does
feel like Bryson. Listen, Bryson's a golf nerd. Bryson honestly
is much more like Phil and Tiger in terms of
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just thinks about golf twenty four seven, three sixty five.
That's like Tom and Peyton Manning, Like those guys think
and talk about football all the time, like Belichick and
Andy Reid, right, And that's kind of the Bryson of golf,
Like he's a junkie. He's gonna be in to golf
the rest of his life. It defines his life, which
I respect, like he takes it very, very seriously. That's
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never been the case with Dustin Johnson. He was just
an elite talent and kept GOA was somewhere in the middle.
I think he cares about it a lot more than
he portrays, and he just loves to compete. And I
think Bryson is like the Phil Tiger Nerdy who also
likes to compete. So I'm pretty I get fired up
like every human for the majors just because it's I
kind of mis seeing these guys. Would you ever consider
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a prop bet talk, enjoy the golf talk, and regard
your schedule. I think it's perfect because the PGA picks
up from February September. The last major tournament is the
Ryder Cup in September, not really missing much. Totally agree.
My thing is I yeah, I mean I will talk whatever.
I don't do that many prop bets, and maybe I'm
an outlier like the things I bet when it comes
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to golf, our top tens and twenties. I used to
just bet winners, and then you realize, like that there's
a reason morons play the lottery. Unless my mom plays
the lottery. I tell her all the time, like we
got to stop doing this, like just go do something,
buy something else, just keep your money, stop playing the lottery.
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And I think sometimes betting on people to win, which
I still do, it's just very, very difficult. Now It's
easier to hit a winner in golf than it is
playing the lottery. Well, my point is I've really transitioned
to top tens, the top twenties, and I've had a
lot of success over the years. But in terms of
like individual matchups, you know, this guy versus this guy
on an individual day, I don't really play now. The
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one thing I've dabbled in, especially around the majors, are
like the groups, they basically pick five guys. So for
the Masters, that'll be like Scottie, Rory Xander, rom cam
Smith or you know, I'm trying to Ludvic and and
you know, starting with Scotty he'll be like plus one
fifty and Ludwig might be four to one, and you
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you're just betting against those five guys whoever has the
best score at the end of seventy two holes. So
you can get led big five to one just against
four other guys. Now you're playing the best guys sometimes
like the second tiers or third tiers. It's like kind
of random guys. It'll be like Max Homer, It'll be
like Shane Lowry, it'll be like Jason Day, Victor Hoveland.
Like that's probably as proppy as I'll get. I've done
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this before, but you talk about lottery tickets, first round leader,
there can't be a bigger hail Mary. It's professional golf.
All these guys on any given day can shoot seven,
eight nine. Major is a little harder. But we just
saw Jake Napp shoot a fifty nine. No one in
the world thinks when Thursday starts, you know this guy's
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gonna shoot a fifty nine. But it's like you can
get sixty to one odds for one round. I've dabbled
a little bit in that, but that's probably as proppy
as I've ever got. I think it's a little easier
prop betting in football or basketball when it's like Steph's
gonna score over twenty four points. You know, Debo's gonna
have sixty yards. Jalen Hurts is gonna score two touchdowns.
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I guess there's some of the birdie ones making miss
the cut. I don't hate, but that's a little like
over and unders, Like I don't like rooting for guys
to miss the cut, but sometimes the guys not playing well,
it's not a bad bet. Yeah, but overall, that'll do
it for go Lo appreciate everybody. I think I'll do
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a podcast tomorrow on some football stuff. I think I
saw Maria mentioned before I walked in here to Devonte
Adams got cut, which is not shocking. Of course, you
had a forty million dollar cap hit. But other than that,
have a great day, and let's win a little money
this week. Lowry Top twenty, Ludwig Hideki top tens. Let's
get it. Okay, we just probably within the last thirty minutes,
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had some breaking news and I wanted to jump on
and do give a quick reaction to what happened. Saquon
Barkley got a contract extension. He got like thirty five
million more guaranteed dollars, and he now jumps McCaffrey, who
last year I think got a big raise right before
the season, and then he couldn't even play at like
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eighteen nineteen million dollars a year. Now, now Saquon's making
over twenty and if you factor in the guarantees of
thirty six plus the twenty seven from last year, you
know you're still guaranteeing a running back fifty million dollars.
But I think a couple things. One, Howie Roseman knows
his locker room, and when he was at the combine,
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I saw him tell Florio that he thought that Saquon
had the greatest season in the history of a running
back in NFL history. Now I'd have to get like
Parcels and Belichick on the horn here, some historians, to
some people at NFL films, but clearly it was an
all time great season. I do think it would be
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tough to go in. It's essentially his contract here. He's
signed a three year deal, but he only got twenty
seven guaranteed, So you do the math. I mean, the
last season's kind of fake, so you want to take
care of the guy. But when you have, he's still
the seventh highest paid guy on his own offense. They
got two tackles making a ton. Landon Dickerson makes a boatload,
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quarterback makes a ton. Wide receivers make a lot. So
it's like, even with getting this extra extension guarantee, relative
to some of these guys on his own team, it's
not like he is by far the highest paid guy.
They got a lot of guys making a lot of dough.
But you can't have Saquon making half as much as
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all these other guys. Forty nine ers were in this
position last year. Now, they wouldn't have done it if
they knew McCaffrey had all these injuries going on, these
phantom injuries. Saque's clearly healthy. But it's pretty tough to
walk in and going, yeah, I'm making a third of
what like Devonte Smith's making, like that would be a
problem for me as a human being, or I'm making
you know, forty percent, right the human dynamics. Forever Belichick
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used to talk about this. He would trade down in
the first round because he struggled. And this is before
like twenty eleven, once the CBA changed the amount of
money guys could make in the draft. But if you
drafted a player in the first round, depending on where
they would make, I mean if you had the number
one or top five pick, they would often be the
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highest paid guy in your locker room. But even if
you somehow got to like the late teens or early twenties,
that guy would be making more than a majority of
guys on your team. So you would bring in a
dude from college who immediately is making more than like
a pro bowler who still on a rookie contract. It
might be a third round or a fourth round. And listen,
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I don't care what industry you work in. I don't
care how much money you make, whether it's fifty dollars
or fifty million dollars. Competitive people, competitive men judge themselves
financially against others, and in a profession like football, when
it's well known who's making what, like I do think
you had to make them whole, and making a guy
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hole at running back is still a bargain like you're
not having to give. Like if you trade for Miles
Garrett because of his position and you give him an extension,
or you traded for Max Crosby and give him an extension,
you are talking one hundred million plus Miles Garrett probably
talking like one hundred and forty million dollars. Micah Parson
wants a new contract. That number is going to be astronomical.
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Saquon Barkley, who clearly we do this all the time
with quarterbacks, right, It's about the fit. Who's your offensive court,
who are your skilled guys around you, who's your offensive line,
who's designed in the plays. It's no different with elite
running backs. Saquon Barkley, giants like kind of overrated, not
that great Christian McCaffrey with the Panthers, guy washed. Get
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with the right guy, get in the right fit. Hall
of Fame talents rise. You could put Micah Parsons on
any team, he's gonna look good. You could put Miles
Garrett on any team, he's gonna look good. You could
put Darrell Reeves on any team in his prime, he's
gonna lock you down. That is not the case with
a lot offensive players. As a wide receiver, I need
someone to throw me the ball. Many years Larry Fitzgerald
played with shitty quarterbacks. It impacts you. You see Saquon
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Barkley Hall of Fame talent. I do not understand. Now,
did anyone know he was gonna help lead the Eagles
to the Super Bowl and run for twenty five hundred yards.
Kyie Roseman didn't know that, but anyone with a fucking
pulse knew the moment the Eagles signed him. It's like, guys,
they have the best offensive line in the league. Guys,
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they have a dual threat quarterback and they will run
RPOs with them, and they got sweet wide receivers in
a tight end. This is going to work. Now at
what level? I don't know. Is he gonna be a pro? Like,
he's probably gonna be a Pro bowler if he stays healthy,
and then he becomes like first team All Pro elite.
It's like plug and play. The only question it turns
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out with guys like McCaffrey and Saquon when they get
in the right place is health. Because if they're healthy
and they're with the right team and the right play caller,
buckle up and get out of the way because they're
kicking your ass. And I just think at the price
point in which you pay these elite guys, it's still
a bargain. And this also shows like Jeffrey Lurie spends
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more actual cash than all these other teams. And it's
a great place to play if you're a good player
because you will get compensated and they will keep you
around what Saquon has going for him. Obviously relative to
other positions, he's not that expensive, but they are around
him for a year and they're like, we love this guy. Wait,
you're telling me this super high character, great player who
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is a superstar in the town. Everyone loves them. Like
that's the type guy you build your franchise around. And Saquon,
in a weird way take some pressure off the quarterback
on and off the field because of this starter. And
you know you hear this in the NBA, this argument
which is so stupid about like who's the face of
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the league. It's like, guys, we determine that shit. The
face of the leagues were always determined by I don't know,
the most popular player, Magic, Larry Michael, Kobe, Lebron Steph.
Like this isn't a complicated formula. The media doesn't choose it,
the fans the consumer does. And like Saquon is someone
who just resonates with people. He is a fun player
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to watch. He is a fan friendly player. Whether you're
an Eagles fan or you like the NFL, you're gonna
like Saquon Barkley his approval rate, and this is true
with most star running backs. Barry Sanders, you did not
need to be a Detroit Lions fan. You could have
been the Packers of the Vikings. Everyone like Barry Sanders.
I mean everyone likes Saquon Barkley. A couple of years ago,
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I didn't hear anyone saying a negative thing about Christian McCaffrey.
Walter Payton's approval rating was pretty freaking high. Everyone likes
watching Derrick Henry play football. Players who run with the
football are enjoyable to watch. And I think when you
factor in all the variables, this is an easy decision
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for the Eagles, and like it just shows you now.
Saguan was the number two overall pick, so he made
a lot of money on his rookie deal. I mean,
as much as you humanly can in this rookie scale.
But like sometimes getting drafted super high, if you are
a really talented player, can really stunt your growth. It
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can really put you in a position that is not fair.
I say this all the time. I have a ton
of admiration for honestly, even college players. I can't imagine
being twenty twenty one years old and someone paying me
nine hundred and fifty thousand dollars, I would what would
you eat? Where would you even start? I don't even.
I mean I can't even. And then the pressure of
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these guys that get drafted really high and get a
thirty million dollars signing bonus, but then go to a
team that sucks and be a part of an operation
that's awful, and be a part of a roster that stinks.
Like to keep yourself it's so easy as you get older,
and I do this a lot, like, hey, keep your
head up. Times are gonna get better, the sun comes up.
No matter how shitty your day is. Adversity's gonna hit
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us all because all that cliche stuff is true for
every human being. There is no avoiding problems. But ideally,
the older you get, it's easier to handle. Like imagine
being like twenty three, twenty four or twenty five and
handling all this shit. Now you could say, listen, I'd
rather handle this stuff as a young guy and still
be rich. True, I would rather handle problems with a
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bunch of money in the bank than no money in
the bank and having problems. Totally agree. I'm not disputing
that but I do think for the most part, these
guys do a really good job. You know, look like
at Sam Darnold resurrecting his career, like never was really
a problem, even through when everyone was taking a gigantic
dump on the guy's career. You know, Baker handled it
probably like most of us would have little like, Okay,
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I'll fight back a little bit. Don't blame him, but
I think Saquon everything he went through with the Giants,
and listen, he wouldn't have been as good on the Giants.
We all understand that. But this continues to age. Like
John Morris sitting there, the owner of the fucking team said,
I don't know if I can sleep at night. You
know why, because he's got a pulse, he's got a brain.
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He understands like this is their arrival. They are the
team right down the road, and he understands they're good,
like they got a bunch of talent, like this is
probably gonna go well, and it couldn't have gone any better.
DeVante Adams was also traded right or not or I
mean cut today. He was traded last during the season,
but like that was kind of obviously, eh. I don't
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know if this is gonna work. This thing's weird, and
then what happened. It got weirder and this didn't work,
and now he's just available and it's just his career
ever since. Like him and Rogers, like I want out
of Green Bay. It's like, are you guys sure? Do
you guys understand? Like Saquon got there, And sometimes I
think it helps you know, DeVante was drafted into a
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team with the Packers that is just one of the
most well run operations in all the sports. Now, you
can nitpick they're not as good as some of these teams,
but they are consistently, always solid. More than likely they're
gonna win ten to twelve games every single year. So
it's like Devonte kind of got some first class problems,
which I we're all human beings. I don't care where
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you are. I say this all the time about my job.
I'm a podcaster. Like my jobs problems relative to a
guy digging ditches or tough manual labor jobs, I can't relate.
But I don't care what you do. Everything that you
do for a living. Eventually, even the coolest stuff. You
could be the starting quarterback for one of the NFL teams.
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Eventually can feel some monotonous characteristics of your profession and
it becomes a job and it feels like a job.
But you know, you look at DeVante, it's like you
had it pretty good. And I think Saquan's like, I
realize what the NFL was. It's hard, it's humbling, you
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get your ass kicked more often than not most places.
And he comes to the Eagles and he goes, god,
I got it pretty well. I would say the same
thing for Stafford and props to him, and McVeigh kind
of alluded to this with McAfee, like when it comes out,
everyone will realize, damn, he did us a favor. And
I give Stafford credit because listen, it's easy for me
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to say, like, you've already have a bunch of money.
The difference between fifty million dollars, that's a lot of money.
I don't care how much money got in the bank.
It's easy for a bunch of poor people to tell
you what to do with your money. And I would
include myself. I'm guilty of this, but I also give
you credit when you realize the money's not gonna change
my life, given I'm so rich. So I got a
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pretty good spot. I understand what that Andy Douframe gift
of him getting through you know, the sewer and out
to that little river and looking up at the sky.
That's these guys getting away from the Giants, getting away
from the Detroit Lions, to the Eagles to the Rams.
Like it doesn't get any better than that. It doesn't
mean you're gonna win the super Bowl every year, it
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doesn't mean every year is gonna be easy, but like
you're part of high level football team with an elite
operation that has a chance. When the season starts. Every
single year, the Giants have no shot. They have no
fucking shot. Detroit pre Dan Campbell for the most part,
had no shot. And I just think I'm always excited
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when elite players get put in good positions, when elite
players who were good guys, like they weren't the problem,
they weren't the reason their team was losing. And seeing
Saquon get paid a bunch uh, it just seems. I mean,
I've been watching him like a lot of people since
he played at Penn State. He's he's just an easy
player to watch. It's just fun and having him on
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a good team, like just like Steph Curry It's much
more enjoyable to watch Steph when the Warriors are good
because he's an easy watch. And I'm not even that
big of a basketball fan anymore, but now Jimmy Butler's
there's like, give me Steph, And that's how I feel.
Saque's like I Saquon any given game, go for two fifty.
I'm fucking in. So congrats to Saquon Barkley. Conglass to
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Howie to keep this thing rolling. If I'm an Eagle fan,
I'm pretty fired up right now. The volume
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