Go Low - Scottie Scheffler WINS again, What's going on with Rory, BEST bets

John Middlekauff REACTS to Scottie Scheffler winning again and how he continues to show everyone that he is significantly better than everyone else on Tour. Next, John talks about the issues surrounding Rory and why he hasn't turned a corner to getting back to being consistently in the top 10 every week. Later, John gives you his best bets for the upcoming LIV Tournament. 

Finally, John dives into the Middlekauff Mailbag to answer your questions.

5:15 - Scottie wins again

15:16 - What's going on with Rory

23:07 - LIV Golf

30:06 - Mailbag

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. What is going on? My people? How are
we doing? It's Monday and we're gonna do a little

(00:21):
go lo today. I thought Scotty Scheffer wins again. We
got the US Open right around the corner. Rory's playing
this week, Rom and Bryson are in DC with Live,
so we got a lot going on golf wise. Only
a couple of majors left and Scotty is I thought
it was crazy, but I mean the Tiger comparisons. He's

(00:42):
on a Tiger like run. I think we got to
give him his due on that one. So we'll talk
about Scotty, We'll talk about Rory, We'll discuss Bryson and Ram,
who have a lot of momentum coming into this US Open.
Two guys that play pretty well in US Opens. So
it's exciting times right now with the elite of the sport.
We will also answer your questions at Golo Pod. I

(01:05):
had a ton We haven't done a golf podcast in
a couple of weeks, so I just tried to rattle
through a bunch of questions at golopod. At Golo Pod
really easy to get involved in the show. We try
to separate the football ones to my regular account, to
the golf ones to the golf account. It's just easier
for me to find them all. So any golf related question.

(01:27):
We're gonna have a big gambling preview next week for
sure when it comes to when it comes to the
US Open, I think I know which way I'm leaning.
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(03:15):
Scottie Scheffler wins again. Uh, I guess we shouldn't be shocked,
kind of kicking myself. Liked him at the PGA Championship,
but really liked him the last couple of weeks. And
Ben Griffin wins at the Colonial a couple weeks ago,
but Scotty wins Memorial. He goes back to back for

(03:38):
the first guy to do that. At Jack's tournaments. Its
Tiger Woods. He has three wins in his last four starts,
and he has combined to win those tournaments by eight shots,
five shots that would be thirteen and then four seventeen shots.
Safe to say, I thought it was a little hyperbolic

(04:00):
last year. I know he was having a Tiger like season,
but I think sometimes when you compare people to Tiger Woods,
to Tom Brady, to as a hitter, if like comparing
you to Tony Gwinn, you make these lofty comparisons. Typically
they're unfair because, like the best of the best, they
do it over a course. You know, Tiger for a

(04:21):
decade kicked everyone's ass, Tom Brady did it for fifteen
to twenty years, right, some of these guys, they have
such long careers of dominance, and you know, Scotty's really
been doing it coming into this year for like a
year and a half at the highest level, which is incredible,
which is very very hard to do with the sport.
And if you look historically, a lot of Hall of

(04:42):
Fame golfers just that have had great long careers take
advantage of like twenty four months. And if you look
at some major stretches, like guys that have won three
or two majors, they usually do it over like two
calendar years, and you just never know. Golf's really hard.
I mean, at one point in time, you would have
thought Rory back in twenty fourteen would have won ten majors.

(05:05):
You would have said the same thing for Jordan Speed.
I'm watching Jordan Speith yesterday watching the Final Rounded Memorial.
I mean, the guy has gotta be the most entertaining
golfer of all time. I mean, on any given moment,
he can hit someone in the head with a golf
ball or have a putt for like a seven foot
or per eagle. You have no clue what's coming at
any moment. It is the ultimate roller coaster ride. And

(05:27):
Scotti Scheffler currently is the complete opposite. You know exactly
what you're getting. He's not only the heavy favorite to
win next week at Oakmont. I think I speak for everybody.
It'd be shocking if he doesn't win, it really would.
He's plus twot eighty. And all we ever say about
this sport currently is it's never been deeper, there's never

(05:48):
been more talent. We say the same thing about the NBA,
and while I'd probably agree in terms of basketball, there
probably has never been more individual talent and more skilled
guy sport. It's not an individual sport. It's a team game.
And now with the mercenary kind of element of basketball,
you got guys jumping all over the place, so there's

(06:10):
no cohesion with teams. I'd argue, like top to bottom,
there have never been more I don't know, worse teams,
but just more chaotic situations. Even talented teams aren't as
good because they haven't played together for long. When I
grew up on the NBA, for example, it was like
baseball and basketball, you had core groups that played together

(06:30):
for a long time and you got to build cohesion.
Or in golf, it doesn't really matter, it's just yourself.
You're just playing yourself. And the thing about team sports, like,
let's use the basketball analogy. Oklahoma City, they're clearly really
good so when they have one guy has an off night,
when you're an elite team, you got other guys to
pick you up. We've seen it in college sports forever,

(06:51):
like it's really easy to go on a run when
you have a roster like twenty nineteen LSU football, or
those couple of years of Georgie football with all the
NFL players they had, or Jim Harbos team two years
ago at Michigan, the decade worth of Nick Saban's teams.
They were dramatically better than everyone else, and there was
maybe a game or two throughout the season where the

(07:13):
competition was going to be close to equal. We've seen
in college basketa for ball for a long time. Some
hell this year with Duke they don't win at all,
but it was clear every game they played except maybe
two or three, they were clearly better than the other team.
So even if some random shit happens, the margin for
error because we got five guys on the court or
eleven guys on the field in football is going to

(07:36):
be on my side. In golf, there's a huge randomness
to the sport. Right What if you're just feeling shitty
that day. I was thinking this yesterday when I was
recording a podcast on Sunday. I'm like, I don't think
my brain's working like it was. This podcast the worst
podcast I've ever done in my entire life. But like whatever,
we have five six days a week doing podcasts every

(07:57):
single week all year long, year after year. It's like, okay,
just keep on swinging in golf. Like you play in
these tournaments as Scotty's doing, you have four days. What
if just one day you're just feeling like crap? What
if one day, like the bounces don't go your way.
Instead of like hitting two yards farther and bouncing five
feet away from the hole, it kicks back and you
get plugged in the bunker and instead of getting a birdie,

(08:19):
you get a double bogie. And that's the reason maybe
you don't make the cut. That's just not happening to
scottis Scheffer at all. It's what was so amazing about
Tiger Woods, which people said forever his most amazing accomplishment
of his career was his consecutive cut streak. He never
missed the cut. Why because like, obviously he was the
best player. But to me that spoke it didn't mean

(08:41):
he won every week because he didn't. I mean, if
you're an all time golfer and you're even getting close
to winning like ten percent of the time, that's an
incredible clip. Yet Tigers give a shit factor was really
really high. He took everything really really seriously. And I
would say the same thing about scottis Scheffler, which early
in the year he gave him a little bit fited
doubt because he had the injury to his hand and

(09:02):
everything was just a little off. You're like, it's golf
cut his hand, kind of a freak deal. And then
right around the Masters, it felt like, is this gonna
be Rory's year? He wins a pebble, he wins the players,
and then he finally wins the Masters. You're like, is
Rory about to have like five or six wins this
season in a couple of majors and kind of steal
the thrown back from Scotty and Scotty, to quote Lee

(09:23):
Corso said, not so fast, my friend, pump the fucking breaks.
Then he goes to the CJ Cup in a field that,
let's face it, not very good, and you're like, listen,
this is a warm up for the PGA Championship. He'll
probably win but even if he doesn't, as long as
he gets some good momentum finishes in the top five.
Not only does he win, he wins by eight shots.
Then he goes to the PGA where he wins by

(09:44):
five shots. So in two straight weeks he wins tournaments
by a combined thirteen shots. And then he goes to
last two weeks ago at the Colonial, Ben Griffin wins.
But it's not like Scotty just mailed it. In the
craziest part about this guy, he's like he never just
has a race a week where he finished his like
thirty fifth. He finished fourth that week, then comes into
this week defending champ. No big deal, I'll win easily.

(10:09):
And as Jack Nicholas said, it's like, yeah, you know,
Ben Griffin, Sepstraca, Nick Taylor nice players, but let's be honest,
they're not in Scotty's league. Sepstraca won this year. Ben
Griffin literally just won last week, and he just dismissed them,
and so did Scotty kicked his ass, even though I
actually think Ben Griffin wasn't terrible a couple way where shotser,

(10:31):
he's right there. But what he's doing right now in
an individual sport where you have no one to bail
you out, like if you're just feeling like shit, if
you didn't sleep well, if I don't know, we've all
played golf, you just don't have it. I heard Scott
Van Pelt say this, I think a couple of weeks
ago on his podcast. He's like, the most impressive thing
always was about Tiger is like he didn't have it

(10:54):
every week, but there were some rounds where most guys
would have ended up shooting seventy four seventy five and
essentially lost the tournament on like a Thursday or Friday
because either they missed the cut or they've been too
far back, and Tiger was always able to find like,
you know what, I'm not shooting seventy four to day,
I'm gonna end uphooting seventy. I'm not shooting seventy six

(11:15):
to day, I'm shooting seventy two. And you just keep
kind of your head above water. And Scotty right now,
has I mean Rory at any moment if you tell me,
like on an individual week, mails it in finishes thirty fifth,
like totally believable, Xander. I'm giving him a little benefit
of doubt this year because of the rib injury, Like
it's kind of a tough injury to play through. He

(11:36):
was incredible last year. He's been one of the better
players in the world. Clearly not quite himself this year.
But and it's hard, you know, with with Bryson and
Ram not playing with these guys every single week. But
what Scotty's doing, Like I thought we were obviously witnessing
an all time great player. But like the Tiger comparisons,
the Jack like this is if he goes to win

(11:59):
at Oak to have these back to back years of
winning at this cliff and just kicking the shit out
of everybody. I understand Rory wasn't there last week, but
every player other than Rory was trying to beat this guy.
And he's just curb stomping the Justin Thomas is the
Xanders like it's not even close. The Patrick Canflays, these
guys are all gonna be like on the Ryder Cup

(12:21):
team with him, and they're just so Jack's taking this
line of the Ben Griffins, the Sepstracas aren't in his league,
like nobody's in his league. Rory's turns out not in
his league, like none of these guys are so the
guys that are right behind him on the Ryder Cup list,

(12:42):
the Xanders, the Justin Thomas, is like, it's not even close.
It's not a fair fight in a sport that like,
there's just some randomness that even if you get hot,
you kind of come back to earth. It's pretty crazy
to witness. I mean, I'm watching yesterday kicking myself, like
why didn't you put an astrogonomical amount of money on
this guy? And every time I talk myself out of it,
it's like, ah, this is gonna be the week. And

(13:03):
then he goes and wins. And speaking of a guy like,
you know, did Rory once he won the Masters, was
it cool to just mail it in? Was like, whatever,
none of it actually matters. After that? Did he accomplish
everything he needed to winning the career Grand Slam? Did
the driver thing really kind of derail him? I don't

(13:24):
quite know, but I really believed after the Masters, this
guy's feels like and he even said, I'm playing the
best golf of my life. Obviously Scotty was not gonna
go winless on the year, but like the way Scotty
had been playing, it's like they're equals and if anything,
in twenty twenty five, Rory had been the best player
in the world, and then everything that transpired over the

(13:46):
last couple of weeks is like this is kind of
the reason, Like I enjoy watching him, but I do
understand the criticism that comes his way over like sometimes
you're a front runner. And this was why more Cowa
took a lot of crap, like you gotta handle the
good times like you gotta handle the bad times. You know,
coaches and players and all these other team sports don't

(14:07):
just get to hide when they lose, right they are
forced to kind of to wear it. Jalen Brunston and
Tom Thibodeau didn't just not get to speak after they
get curb stomped by the Pacers in Game six. In
an individual sport that is driven by four or five guys,
I mean, let's face it, the sport of golf ist

(14:28):
and its health is really determined right now by Scottie Scheffler,
Rory McElroy, and probably Bryson D. Schambeau. You could honestly
probably cut it off at three now. You could factor
in Xander and Rom and Justin Thomas and a couple
other names. But I mean, truly like three guys that
truly matter in terms of television ratings, in terms of
true interest, and Rory's right at the top, and for

(14:49):
him to disappear about the driver thing, and I don't
pretend to have all the answers. Lucas Glover who has
like like Rockomdia, they do afternoon shows on Serious XM,
and he had said last week that some guys put
two drivers in their bag because they know the driver
they want is probably going to fail, so they give

(15:11):
the other one that it might also fail, and almost
like sacrifice it even though they knew they were never
going to use it. Bottom line, I don't actually care.
It doesn't bother me. It's not even that big a deal,
clearly the way it's been described. But to just go
Mia a couple of weeks ago, and then when Scotty

(15:31):
had the same thing happened to him, and then this
week like listen, I'm not expecting you to bow at
the feet of Jack Nicholas, but to bow out of
the signature event, which a couple of years ago Rory
was really fighting for all these guys to be involved.
And then clearly everything that's transpired over the last twelve
plus months, Rory kind of felt like he got backstabs,

(15:51):
so now he's like pushing against which I also understand too.
But Jack had nothing to do with that. To not
just call the guy and say, hey, Jack, I'm not
gonna make your tournament when he has personally helped you
strategically and you've talked to him for attacking Augusta over
the last couple of years. I just thought was kind
of an embarrassing look and the type look for a

(16:13):
guy that and maybe at this point in time he
truly doesn't care about any of this stuff and he'll
speak because he's playing the Canadian Open this week. I
just think some of this stuff is pretty easily avoidable
if you're Rory McElroy, and it'll be interesting to watch,
like does he just mail in the rest of the year.

(16:34):
You know, I don't even know what my expectations are
for him at Oakmont. You could convince me that he's
right there in the mix, and you could also convince
me that he's just kind of a non factor and
finishes like twenty eighth. I think it's one of those
that if you told me, like he got over the
mountaintop and he's just cool with it totally understandable, and
I think it's what we all currently respect the most

(16:55):
about Scotty is he has like this Tiger Jordan Brady
like drive. Ted Scott has been saying it like it's
not about the money. Now. I don't necessarily think like
Rory's competing for the money either, but like Scotty's just
completely driven to win golf tournaments. And it was Tiger's
greatest quality, it was Tom Brady's greatest quality, it was

(17:15):
Michael's greatest quality when the tournament, when the game started,
he was going to do everything humanly and as possible
to win, whether it was against a shitty team or
whether it was against a really great team. And Tiger
was the same way, whether it was a major or
whether it was some random attorney. And Scotty clearly is
bringing that to the table right now. And I think
you could question like Rory clearly and listen he said

(17:36):
before it's all about the majors, which I understand, but like,
I don't know if in an individual sport like golf
you can truly approach it like that. I do think
there's a level of taking, you know, things seriously, and
I don't know I mean it makes me nervous as
a guy who's supported the player over the years, Like

(17:57):
I kind of understand what other people are saying. Sometimes
it's like why you got it? Like live this week,
they're going to DC the Robert Trent Jones Golf Club,
and I think Bryson's who is the defending champ next
week at the US Open, And if his irons are
just somewhat on, they're definitely something to keep an eye
on this week. He's a good example. He has played

(18:19):
really well in live tournaments. He's one countless, and he
takes it really seriously, like golf and competing mean a
lot to him. Now you can say whatever you want
you know about I like his YouTube stuff. I find
it funny. But one thing, you know, and this is
why Bryson's had so much success the last couple of
years in the majors, is like it means a lot

(18:41):
for him to compete. And I think John Rawn people
started questioning, like what's kind of going on? And I
looked his last two live events, He's finished T seven
and fourth. So it shouldn't be shocking that a couple
of weeks ago at the PGA Championship, he was essentially
tied with the back nine to go. Now it kind
of unravel on in the last three or four holes.

(19:01):
But John Rahm has had a lot of success in
the US Open. He's a former US Open champ at
Tory Pines. To me coming into this at Oakmont, if
John rom plays well this week and you tell me
he finishes top four or five in DC at Live,
I will kind of like the momentum and a lot

(19:22):
like Bryson. The difference is like whether Bryson finishes second
at Live or eight that Live or whatever. I know,
when it comes to a major, he's gonna bring it,
especially American majors. The British can be a little weird
with the weather situation, so you never know. It can
be a little random. But when it comes to the Masters,
the PGA Championship, and specifically the US Open, which is

(19:43):
always gonna have a rough problem something that he is
going to have a huge advantage of because of his
strength and ability to hit out of it. And one
of the big stories at Oakmont is like they're growing
the rough into the player. Well, they could be growing
into the player, they could be growing away from the player,
they could be growing at eight feet t all, it's
gonna be advantage advantage Bryson every single time hitting into

(20:04):
the rough. And what's the reality at the US Open,
Everyone's gonna miss fairways. So John Rahm is a good
example of like same type deal, really strong, potent driver
of the golf ball. Uh. I'm really interested to keep
an eye on him this week in DC and UH
kind of see how he's trending because if he plays well,
I listen, I'm hammering Scottie for Oakmont. But to me

(20:26):
and Bryson now is an auto hammer you know from
a gambling perspective when it comes to uh, especially the
PGA Championship in the US Open, to win in the
top five, to me, John Rahm, after showing how well
he played at the PGA Championship, plays well at DC,
I think I'm all over. So listen, if you ever

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Okay, let's go mailbag at golopod. At golopod is the mailbag,
Let's fire. Some questions love the pod question of the
comment curious your thoughts on the resurgence of the mini driver.
Are you the type that dabbles with building clubs or
testing different lofts, li angles, different chefs. The answer is no,
But to push back on that, I gladly would. We

(24:29):
just need to have a club sponsor that wants to
dabble or let me dabble, and I gladly would, but
as of right now, I don't really the whole note
talking fiasco with Rory is why some detractors. When things
are going good, he loves the app, but when things
are going bad, he ducks. That's what we just talked about.
Totally agree. You know, you can't just pump your chest

(24:51):
out when things are going well. You gotta be there
when things are going poorly in any walk of life, professionally, personally,
from people that are married or in serious relationships. You know,
it's nothing is easier in life when things are going
in a positive direction, in business, with your kids, with

(25:13):
your family, and nothing is more difficult when things are
headed in the wrong direction and things get tough because
no one wants to deal with it. But part of
being a grown up, part of being a professional, is
handling it. And I would say Rory, for whatever reason,
is just kind of ducked lately. It's weird golf question idea.

(25:34):
What if the PGA Tour let popular YouTube golfers like Rickshields,
good good golf in Grant Horvat play in a non
major pro tournament. It would create massive online viewership and
interest in the non majors. Your thoughts, I don't know
if that's the case, because if you let those guys

(25:55):
play because of their television deals, they wouldn't let those
guys broadcast their rounds on YouTube, so they would be
playing just like any other player in the tournament. Now,
they might get shown a time or two on Thursday
and Friday. I'm assumed none of them would make the cut.
I mean, Wesley Bryant could, the other guy's Grant. None

(26:18):
of them could make the cut of an event, but
they wouldn't be on TV really, so maybe it would
help to get some tickets right for people to purchase
tickets at the event. But like the difference of Live
Golf for example and the PGA Tour is LIV has
done the Creator Classic and they put it on Grant

(26:40):
Horvat's channel, and then they put it on I think
they're putting it on the Brian Brose channel. This next
one coming up, I would imagine they will eventually put
it on bobda Sports channel. The PGA Tour did it,
they put it on their own channel. They didn't broadcast
on those guys channels, So it's like part of utilizing
them is you have to utilize them what their strength is,

(27:03):
which is their YouTube audience. So I hear what you're saying,
and I understand. Like Grant has been invited to play
at the Barracuda, which is in Reno at Old Greenwood,
which is a really, really hard course, and when he
had Scotti Scheffler on, he had mentioned like, you know,
I don't really feel comfortable doing it, and Scotty's like,

(27:24):
you got to take it, just do it. Who cares?
And I agree with that, but I don't think that's
gonna add viewership or not in terms of him playing,
which again no shade to Grant has no chance to
make the cut. Rule changes for the Tour Championship is stupid.
Why not go to match play and it seems it
doesn't reward the season long play, So the Tour Championship,

(27:49):
which changes rules in the middle of a season, which
is kind of crazy. It'd be like the NFL in
November first being like, actually, we're gonna the seventh wild
card team no longer is going to exist, and we're
also going to reseed and winning the division does not
guarantee you a spot that would never happen, and that's,
you know, kind of what the golf world we're in

(28:10):
right now. It's kind of just a fly by the
seat of your pants. So I'm not surprised though the
staggers start. It can't happen anymore. So if you're gonna
have the golf playoffs be the last three weeks of
the season. In the playoffs, you can get beat, right
The Boston Celtics and the Cleveland Cavaliers were the first

(28:33):
one and two seeds. They got beat, They got told
Sea audios have a good night. The Lakers were the
three seed. They got beat in the first round. Part
of the playoffs is like, I don't know, you can't lose,
you know, and I last year the Ravens, they were
the number one overall seed hosting the Chiefs and they lost.

(28:55):
So like, what Scottie Scheffler has done during the season
is incredible, But if you're gonna have a quote unquote
the playoffs, he should be able to lose. The problem
with match play is, for a television standpoint, having Scotty
or Rory get beat in the third round and not
make it to the semi finals. In the finals, is

(29:17):
not great for television. It's basically why the matchplay events
have been scrapped. There's a randomness to it. Like Scotty
Scheffler in match play can lose to Let's say there
are fifty players. Let's say the final fifty. You go
to match play right twenty five verse twenty five, and
you just work your way to to the champion. He

(29:38):
could lose in the first round, and he can play
well and some guy just chips in, makes a couple
of long putts, all of a sudden, he's lost. That's
the difference. Like yesterday, there'd be like a three shot
swing or even a two shot swing. Right, so one
whole Ben Griffin, Bogi's, Scottie Birdie's and it goes from

(29:58):
like he's eight under, Ben Griffin seven under, all of
a sudden, Scotti's nine under and Ben Griffin's six under.
It's a two shot sling. One match plays just one hole,
So it doesn't I can get a double bogie, you
get a double eagle. Who gives a shit? I just
I just don't think match play is really on the table.
I think a bigger issue in a lot of other

(30:19):
golf people have talked about This is like, should we
try to go to Pebble Beach? Why don't we do
the event at Pebble Beach in the middle of August
when it's beautiful. No more Tour Championship in Atlanta. Like
I I'd be okay with that, but it feels like
for the foreseeable future is where it's gonna be. Was

(30:43):
listening to Scotti interview about when they tested the driver
and it failed. He said he kind of figured it
was coming because I've been using that driver for a
year and a half. If players are aware it could
be coming, why would they just change out their driver
on their one or two A tourneys before a major
so that you don't get into a Rory sprang the
ball everywhere with a brand new driver. He hasn't broke

(31:05):
in yet. Don't know if Rory would have won, but
it seems like he could have made it interesting and
avoided the situation. That's a good question. Uh, maybe Rory
didn't see it coming. I mean, we'll see what his
quotes are this week. I would imagine he's gonna not
want to talk about it, but who knows. Uh. I

(31:27):
do understand that if like, okay, I see it coming,
But I feel really comfortable with this driver that I'm
just gonna make it where they take it away from me.
But I'm with you, why would you even risk that,
especially if you're for Scotty. The driver is not the
most potent club in his back. Obviously he's a great
driver of the ball, but if like he just had
to change his irons the week before, it would be

(31:49):
a huge story. And that's the equivalent of Rory, who's
a dominant driver though golf ball. So I do believe this.
You know, baseball. I don't watch as much baseball now
as I used to. But if I think you cork
your bat can, I can look at the umpire and
have them check your bat. Right. If I think you

(32:10):
have something in your glove, some sort of substance to
help you get spin on the baseball, I can. Again,
I might be screwing up exactly what the rules are now,
I could have my manager or first base coach or
whoever go to the Empire and have them check the
pitcher right, maybe once a game, twice a game, whatever.
And it's why pitchers always get mad when they don't

(32:31):
have anything in there. But you'd never know when it's
gonna come if in golf, if there's one hundred and
fifty people in a tournament and they only check fifty
of the one fifty, seems a little random. And I
heard a lot of people say, and I do agree,
either check everybody or check nobody. You can't just have
this randomized event, because if it's a random event, how

(32:55):
many guys in the tournament then are able to play
with a driver that is not unconforming? If, like you know,
in a baseball game, there's no way they're gonna check
for any sort of substance in my glove. As a pitcher,
well I'm gonna put some in there if I know
I'm not gonna get checked. So imagine some of the

(33:16):
golfers that whenever the date passes where they're like, well,
no one checked me, I'm good to go. So you
just play the driver that's non conforming. If you're playing
with it, and again non conforming from what I've read,
it's like an extra yard, so it's not like the
difference of hitting it three hundred and three hundred and
fifty yards. But like, this is the problem with golf
and kind of the business they're in. There are so

(33:38):
many open ended situations either draw line in the sand,
do this or that. It's like, eah, I was kind
of do this. It's where we get back to, you know,
one of the strongest parts about the Let's use the
NFL as an example, Like there's pretty strong structure. These
are the rules. There's what you can do. There's what

(33:58):
you can do. It doesn't mean you agree with everything.
Some of the fines are ridiculous, some of the penalties
are stupid, but like it is what it is, right
and golf is like, well, yeah, like you can't really
we kind of have to show up. We don't have
to show up. We kind of have to talk to
the media. I don't feel like talking to the media.
It's like, guys, are can we all move in the

(34:18):
same direction? Part of like you know, a row boat.
You can't have one guy rolling one way and the
other guy rolling the other way. Can we all row
in the same direction? And I think sometimes in golf,
like you get all these independent contractors and that I
heard I heard Lucas Glover say this as well. He's
like I talked to the media whether I played well

(34:39):
or not, if I'm asked, And obviously he's not on
the level of these guys, but like, we're all independent
contractors here so legally, like by the of our whatever
our contracts or deals with the PGA tour, we don't
have to do anything. Like yeah, well, don't have to
do anything. But when you're the star, you're the guy

(34:59):
general rating all the money, and the reason you're the
richest guy is because they kind of need you leading
the charge. Like did Tiger always have to talk? Of
course not, but did he understand that he was the
guy printing the money for everybody and he was the
guy benefiting the most, making the most of it on
and off the course. So I just think some of
these guys kind of get caught up in these like

(35:25):
one on one battles with the media or the social
media and narratives like come on, let's see the bigger
picture here, which I understand can be difficult. But Rory's
thirty five years old. A hidden gym for a great
golf weekend. Saint George, Utah between sandhul and Trada and

(35:47):
the brand new Black Desert just hosted the PGA and
LPGA plus a bunch of other courses. It's awesome. I've
heard good things. I mean, I saw the Bobda Sports
and Granting. All those guys were there. I've had friends.
My brother in law Matt, went on a trip last
year to Saint George. He went in the summer and

(36:07):
it was hot, but he said it was the most
beautiful course he's been doing a long time. So I'm
with you. I've never been. I always thought when I
was scouting, when I was at Fresnone State, we played
Utah State, and that in Utah, driving through Salt Lake
and up through Utah, it's in Logan. Utah is some

(36:28):
of the most beautiful country in America. It really is.
I mean, Utah has areas in its state that, you know,
everyone's like California most beautiful state. There are areas in
Utah that I would put right there with, like Lake Tahoe.
I mean, it's just it's just absolutely gorgeous. The drive
going to Logan, Utah from Salt Lake City is absolutely beautiful.

(36:49):
So I don't know exactly where Saint George is. I
think it is in South Utah. I did watch Mom
Talk The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, which I don't
recommend unless you want to just feel terrible about yourself,
Like why am I watching this, but somehow I did
watch it and in a weird way kind of enjoyed it.

(37:10):
But it is it is beautiful area, it's clean, it's
fresh air, and obviously great golf. Speaking of Utah, I'm
from Salt Lake City and live near Tony Fenow. I
follow him fairly closely, but never get my hopes up
on him winning a major. In my opinion and statistically,

(37:30):
his putting is absolutely god awful. Wondering if you've ever
noticed this? Also, what do you think stops a golfer
of his caliber who clearly needs to fix his putting
from simply copying the guys he plays with every week?
Tony is a top notch iron player and driver of
the golf ball, but he can't putt. Still, he never
tries out a new putter or a putting stroke. I

(37:50):
don't get it. Putting is like shooting a free throw.
Rhythm and repetition is feenow the shack of putting. You
know what's funny. I think he splits between Arizona and
Utah and I see him. I've probably seen him out
of TPC Scottsdale. I don't know ten to fifteen times.
Sometimes he's with his younger son, who looks like he's

(38:11):
got defensive tackle written all over him. And I swear
most times when I see him out there. Now the pros,
there's the driving range where just us normal people hit
and they go to the back, and I can always tell,
like Max Homa, you can tell Tony just by their
swing right, you know, three hundred and fifty yards away.
I don't have a great eyesight, but every time I'm

(38:34):
out there, Tony's on the putting green and I've gone
where I've hit some balls. You can see Tony back
there on the putting green. And then I go play
and by the time I get to the eighth pole
at TPC Scott Steele, you can see the PGA Tour
players putting green where they are and he's still there.
So and again this is not I mean, you can

(38:54):
count on two hands how many times I've seen this.
But like I've seen the guy work on his game.
I've said the same thing about Max, Like even when
Max is playing shitty, I've seen him out there practicing
for hours. So it's like I couldn't last on a
putting green more than twenty minutes. Now, I'm not saying
just because like, of course he's a pro golfer. My
point is, I do think he tries and works on it.

(39:16):
Putting is just I don't know. He just I think
I saw a highlight. Honestly, it looked like AI at Memorial.
He put it. He had a birdie and he put
it with one hand, and it wasn't from like a
foot away, he was like twenty five feet. I think
sometimes he just I don't know. You know, part of
what Shack shooting free throws. His hands were so big,

(39:38):
so it's like it's easier for me or you to
shoot a basketball because her hands are smaller, right, But
for Shaquille O'Neal, the ball felt more like a baseball
in his hands, which made some sense. But rick Berry
used to say, hey, I will teach you to shoot underhand,
but Shaq didn't want to not look cool. Who knows.

(40:00):
Imagine if Shack was like an eighty five percent free
throw shooter, he would have been stoppable because you couldn't
gone to Hackshack. Where I do think putting like, there
are enough guys that just can't really putt for whatever reason.
And I don't think it's all just touch or whatever,
because clearly has some touch. I don't know. I just
some guys are just bad putters. I'm not a great putter.

(40:21):
Maybe there is something into not having a system. I
don't know. You have to ask him why. Some guys
are just more serviceable at putting. Now, some guys get
hot right that aren't good putters, but it is clearly
has held Tony back from winning a lot more tournaments
in his career.

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Speaker 1 (41:16):
What are your thoughts on Brandal Shamblee as a golf
media personality. Love him. I think he's in all of sports.
He's just in terms of like television analysts, not like
a guy that gives opinions, like in the sense of,
you know, Collins a radio host or a podcast host.
Some I'm talking to just a guy that is, you know,

(41:39):
on events, calling them. He's I think he's the best
in the business any sport. I really do. I think
Troy Akman's got to swag back in football, but I
think Brandal's pretty unique, and I think sometimes the player
shit on him where it's like brand was this kind
of speak. You know, Brando could talk like a normal
fan in terms of being critical, like that's just good enough.

(42:01):
But he also, like the dude was on pg tour
for a while. It's not like he's just some random
Joe Schmoe. It wouldn't be just like me sitting up
there at the US Open be like this guy just
can't hit his sand wedges and the guy would look
at me like, fuck me either, can you your five handicap?
You know, this guy was a PGA tour player, good player,
pissed a lot of people off. I thoroughly enjoy him,

(42:23):
but he's my type of entertainment, like I I want
someone to say what I'm witnessing now. He can get
a little into the weeds, you know, in terms of golf,
swing and stuff. But like I think a lot of
his opinions over the year, I don't agree with him
on like at this point in time to live stuff.
It's like, bro, I do not care. How do you

(42:44):
still care this much? But you know the Kopka thing.
I remember he used to get in like, how why
isn't Brooks beat? Why doesn't he try harder in these
major these non majors, like he could have been like
an all time great player win all these majors and
then kick ass in a bunch of PG events and
hymn Brooks used to to get into it. It's like,
I think you kind of need some of that. My

(43:04):
job allows me to have a ton of free time,
so I try to play every day, whether it's on
the course or the range. Currently a twelve handicap. Where
were there any drills that help you take your game
to the next level? Yeah, I mean you's most people,
I would say, even I like golf a lot. I
haven't played in a couple of weeks, but I don't

(43:24):
really do drills. The only time I could ever do
a drill would be if I got a lesson, But
on my own, I just one thing I've really tried
to work on is play less golf, swing and play
more golf. And I did it for the first time
last week in Tahoe, and I played my best in
a long long time. I just plan. I didn't think
about my golf swing like my hands here here, just

(43:47):
just swing, swing hard. Now I'm probably a little better
than you, but I think if you have questions, I
would get a golf lesson and then he could give
you some basic tips that you think about. But for
the most part, like I don't really do drills, I
would say, if you're a twelve handicap, the quickest way

(44:08):
to get better would be to hit fairways. So work
on the driver and short game, like if you can
be a good shipper. Putting's a little random, but like
if you can give yourself opportunities around the green, you
can improve quickly. But you got to hit fairways because
it's really hard to score, whether your two handicap or
whether you're a twelve handicap in the fucking trees and

(44:30):
the rough. I recently started to get into golf. I'm
shooting low to mid thirties. It appears to me it's
a very mental sport. What tips would you have or
you have heard for a better mental approach to the game,
hoping to shoot plus eighteen by the end of the summer,
So basically ninety. I think, you know, there are strategy

(44:55):
stuff that if you watch, like golf, probably more than
the other sports one most of us aren't playing. Like
once you get to thirty forty fifty years old, maybe
some of you are playing pick up basketball, but no
one's playing tackle football. You know, even slow pitch softball
is not nearly the same as like normal baseball. So
golf's the only sport that you could play exactly like

(45:16):
the pros, Like you can go to the courses they
play and play their teas. Now it doesn't mean obviously
you're as good as them, but you can play the
same game even though it's a little different. They got
grand stands and they get kind of bullshit drops. But
you know what I mean. I would say two things
that for me that I do not like course strategy, Like, hey,
I want to hit in the middle of the green,

(45:37):
don't take on that bunker, like it totally depends on
the course you're playing. I have a tendency to hurry, hurry, hurry,
that's just my natural personality. Go go go. So if
I have like a double bogie and I'm playing with it,
most people I play with, it's ready golf, even if
you're playing for money. Every once in a while, you know,
obviously if a guy gets a burdy, you give them

(45:57):
the tea. But you know, if you're at the tea first,
let it rip, keep it moving. It's like sometimes if
you're kind of amped up and you haven't you just
had a shitty hole, let other people hit first. And
I saw Rory say this, and I think about this.
Sometimes He's like, close your mouth and breathe through your nose.
It just slows everything down. Cause golf is I think

(46:21):
that has the most in common with like baseball and
kicking in football. Is it's a lot more thinking than
it is actual action. So when you get really amped
up and the herd, you know, the harder you try
a golf sometimes the worst you can get. So sometimes
slowing down because I think our natural reaction. Think about

(46:43):
you know, on a driving range, let's just say I
give you twenty balls, and I say here's this eight iron.
You'll just hit twenty balls eight iron. You could bag
those out in a couple of minutes just swinging, swinging, swaying. Swing. Well,
you don't play golf like that, you know. Jack Nicholas
has always said, like he used to practice kind of
like he played. He hit a shot, take a little time.

(47:05):
Some of the great players have said this though. When
you just watch like these guys on Golf Channel at
the Majors, they're just hitting ball after ball, So it's
not totally realistic. But I think sometimes be cognizant of
like just rushing, rushing, rushing. You know. Slow play is
a big deal on the PGA Tour. I think sometimes

(47:26):
it's the opposite for the average golfer, is they go
too quickly, you know, just take a little I'm not
saying play like Patrick Cantlay, but just take a deep breath.
Something I really try to work on a big fan
Newish golfer. I live in Phoenix and mostly only play
in Phoenix. At what point do we call out the

(47:47):
astronomical prices they charge out here or is it simply
a supplied demand thing that we have to accept. Would
love to hear your take on the cost of golf
in Arizona compared to elsewhere. Golf's really expensive no matter
where you play right, So if you're playing a quote
unquote better course, you know, I think the day and

(48:10):
age of playing just random public tracks for twenty thirty
bucks are really really hard to find. So you know,
in in Arizona, a crappy public course, gosh, you like
one hundred and fifty bucks. At least during the six
months when it's not one hundred and fifteen degrees. You
can find cheaper golf when it gets hot. But you know,

(48:31):
just being in Lake Tahoe, it was the second day
open of this course called Gray's Crossing. It's the one
right next to Old Greenwood where they have the PGA
event in the fall. And again they had been closed
the entire winter because of this thing called snow, so
they opened on Friday. We played Sunday. Now it was

(48:51):
in pretty damn good shape relative to being shut down
because of a harsh winner. Costs two hundred dollars a pop,
and as the summer months go and it gets sunnier,
that course I think charges well over three hundred dollars.
So the round of golf. Like I was talking to
Maria or she had mentioned this to me yesterday about

(49:14):
like they were talking about the prices of housing in
like a team meeting or something. And I think it's
easy for anyone in the housing world to go, like, God,
this is what this guy paid in twenty sixteen. It's like,
this is what this guy paid in twenty fourteen. It's like, yeah,
it's twenty twenty five, and the cost of you name

(49:35):
me the neighborhood, that's what it is now. Now, maybe
with higher interest rates, you could low ball the guy
for thirty forty to fifty grand. But okay, so it's
nine hundred thousand dollars home. Let's say you end up
getting it for eight fifty. You can be mad all
day long. Well he only paid four fifty four this
seven years ago. Well, yeah he did. If you want
to live in that home now, hopefully you can get

(49:55):
it for a fifty. He's still gonna make four hundred
thousand dollars you hopefully well too. You just might have
to hold onto it for a little longer than he did, right,
and hopefully things go well in that area. And I
think at golf people bitch and moan all the time
about these prices, and I see it. I mean, for
four or five months a year at TBC Scottsdale. I mean,

(50:17):
with taxes and everything, they're charging almost six hundred dollars,
which is fucking insane. I really like the course. I
enjoy playing out there. Now I pay for it. It's
not like they give it to me for free. But
I have played out there now for almost three years.
It should it be that much, of course not. But
when I go out there in the popular months, it
is packed and everyone's paying. That I live next to Greyhawk,

(50:42):
it's a little cheaper maybe after taxes, is like five
hundred and fifty bucks. Same thing if you went out
there in February or March or November. It is Friday, Saturday,
Sunday jam packed and even the weekdays. Now these are
higher end public tracks, but even pick your and in
public track and just somewhat of a populated area, I

(51:05):
think it's gonna be very difficult for you not to
look at the price and go, let's say, let's say
the numbers one hundred and eighty dollars to play the course, going, god,
this used to be fifty dollars. Yeah it did, and
now it's not. And you look at their t sheet
and it's packed. So I'm with you, I think it's
it's the easiest thing to complain about, Like, this is
fucking nuts, but people are paying. I see it, like,

(51:28):
you know, hopefully we get a family. You know, I
want to join a country club to have a place
to go hang out. The prices for country where I
grew up in, like northern California, places like Olympic Club, Uh, Sacramento.
I don't know even know what the best course would be.
It'd be like Del Passo or whatever. But the course
my brother belongs to I think he paid like five

(51:48):
thousand dollars to join. That's what it costs to join
the country club he's a member at. You couldn't dream
of finding a decent country club around here for under
one hundred grand and the cool ones I mean are
two fifty to five hundred thousand dollars. It's like, is
this fucking Augusta National And the answer is no, it's not.
But it's like, well, we have a seven year waiting list.

(52:10):
So it's like, well I can complain or it's like, well,
if you ever want to be part of these, these
are the going rates and here's the list. So you
want to get in line or you want to bitch
and moan about on the sideline, and again back to
my house analogy. I've seen so many people like I
don't want to pay this, I don't want to pay this. Well,
then you're not gonna buy a house. Then probably, I mean,

(52:31):
that's probably what's gonna transpire, because if you're hoping for
the days of like two thousand and eight for the
house you've been eyeballing, It's like, I'm not spending a
million dollars on that. I'm not spending seven hundred thousand
dollars that you think it's gonna be like three hundred
and fifty grand or that million dollar house. One day
you're gonna look up after a disaster and it's gonna
be six hundred thousand dollars. Probably not gonna happen. So

(52:51):
I just I'm done complaining about it. I don't disagree
with what you're saying because the numbers are high, but
but whe ain't going back. I'm not you know, I
wasn't an economics major in college, but I've learned enough
over the last decade plus. When you hear these people
that know what they're talking about talking about inflation. When
inflation slows down, it doesn't mean that the whatever you're

(53:12):
paying for now that was forty dollars goes back to
twenty seven dollars. It just no longer goes from forty
to forty five. So I think the prices are kind
of the prices. Good topic though, Scotty Scheffler becoming an
all time great. Do you believe he will have the
longevity with his swing? Every time he swings it's almost

(53:34):
as if he's rolling an ankle. By the way, get
a hold of Bryson or Grant Horvat for a video sometime.
I would love to have Bryson on the pod. I
would say the thing with Scotty, he doesn't roll his
ankle and his footwork is unconventional. But when you look
at Tiger, he was very, very hard on his knees

(53:57):
and his back and clear the car accident in La
had nothing to do with that, but his fuse back
has broken torn acls, and part of that was the
Navy seal stuff. I think Scotty is closer to Phil Mickelson,
where he's a little more fluid in lumber. You know,
Phil's never had an injury. Think about Phil doesn't mean
he's always played well, but he's never hurt generally, how

(54:21):
Phil's going to be out for eight months back injury
if anything. Feels his battle weight issues, but never been
hurt now. I remember hearing Bones talk about this one time.
Look at his swing, Look how fluid it is, and
it's not He's listen. I'm no biomechanic guy, but it's
kind of right. I do think there are elements, like, yes,
Scotty's feet move weird, but I actually think it's easier

(54:44):
on his back, so Scotty stays healthy, feels like he's
going to be closer to ten Majors than he is
three or four. A month ago, you talked about switching
your iron grips from jumbo to standard. We talked briefly
about the benefit it would have if you weren't getting
around the ball. How the switch turn out. It was

(55:06):
great because I'm like Jared Goff or Derek Carr. You know,
I have smaller hands, so I want to grip. I
want to have a weaker grip so it's much easier
for me to get my right hand over. And you
know when you watch Scottie, he grips it a couple times,
Xander the same way. It's pretty underrated. How important a

(55:29):
good golf grip is. That is one thing I've watched
a lot on YouTube, and I've taken it to the range.
Mess around. When I do grip it correctly and get
my right hand farther over on my left hand, I
hit the ball much more solid. It feels weird, but
it works. And for people with bigger hands, I think
it's easier for them just to grip over it. For
me with the bigger grips, it's like I can't even

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get my hand over there. And I just sat seventy six.
I wasn't playing the tips, but I was playing really well.
I would have broke aded from the TI, and to me,
that's all I'm looking for. I play the tips any course.
If I break eighty, I've played well, and at my
point in time in golf like that's I'm playing golf,

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have fun and do content. Eventually, I don't really care
about being a scratch golfer. If I'm just a two, three,
four five range, you know, when I'm playing a lot,
get a little closer. When I'm not be a five,
I'm fine with that. Here's another question about Scotty. I
read that only three people at fifteen PGA Tour wins
and three major championships before the age twenty nine, Tiger,

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Jack Scottie, he's clearly an all time talent and he's young.
How many majors could he win? Could he ever get
to ten? To me? I think tens. I think ten's
kind of the number, and I think if he got
to ten, that'd be pretty legendary. I think if he
wins at Oakmont, he's in pretty good shape. I mean,

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if he wins at Oakmond, it would feel inevitable that
he's gonna win the career Grand Slam. Also, why I
had the number of major championship wins by Jack and
Tiger so unreachable. Will someone ever get above ten wins
in our lifetime? Well a level of competition for Jack,
I mean three or four top guys, But you know

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he came in that Arnold was older. Lee Trevino was
probably his you would call his rival. You know, Johnny
Miller came around in the seventies. I guess Jack won
a major in his in his mid forties in the eighties.
But even Tiger, I mean he faced Ernie Els, VJ Singh,
Phil Mickelson, Patrick Harrington got hot there for a while

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Ratief Goosen. I mean, there were some big time players,
but I do think the depth of talent and in
golf in an individual sport, like that's more impressive. If
Scotty were to get to ten majors, it would feel
like he's the modern day Jack or Tiger. Now to me,
he's more Jack than Tiger because is one of the greatest,

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most famous, marketable individuals ever and he was much more
Energetic's probably the wrong way to describe it. Boisterous, just
magnetic to watch. I mean there was like a remember
when Barry Bonds and the peak of his steroid use
would get up to bat and he was like, He's
gonna break Baby Ruth's record, and he would just watch.

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You know, you could be at a bar and everyone's
head would turn. There was an element like that with Tiger,
which there just isn't with Scotty and there never will be.
But the only way you can kind of create his
version is just by beating everyone constantly, and then you
just become the story of like can anyone beat this guy?
You just become Goliath and everyone's David. My question is
what happened to aberg I was saying it all last year,

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the next number one golfer, seems like he's never in
contention anymore. Well, he got injured, then he got surgery,
then he gets really hot and he wins Tory Pines,
which I guess was that actually supposed to be riv
but because of the five, and then he's played pretty shitty.
I think he did just shoot yesterday like sixty six
at the Memorial, his first signs of life in a while.

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I also think golf's hard, and that's what makes what
Scotty's doing so crazy. Sometimes you get injured, you just
start playing off. You just start playing in your little off.
You know, Aberg's never been a great putter. But I
don't know. I don't have a great answer for you.
They don't show him on TV as much anymore, so
it's hard to watch. What's your opinion on the PGA

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rolling back some of the modern equipment allowed on tour.
I saw a tweet where Nicholas was quoted talking about
today's game compared to golf in the past, roughly nineteen
ninety five. I think I was born in ninety six.
He was talking about how today's balls go further and
it forces courses to lengthen, which only does two things,
take longer to play and costs more money. He was saying,

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how back in the day, thousands of courses were able
to host events, compared to today only a few hundred, and
if balls are going one yard further per year, what
happened in forty years. I saw a video where the
Patrick Reid saying he'd like to see driver faces go
back to smaller, less forgiving irons. You could argue, I'm

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unbothered by it, like I'm fine with where they're going
right now, because I don't believe that we'll see a
guy driving it three hundred and ninety yards. It's kind
of like baseball, like they've have they kind of peaked
on velocity. Or are we gonna see guys throwing one
hundred and ten? Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe in ten years
we'll see like seven guys throwing one hundred and eight.

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But I don't know, Like Bryson clearly hits the ball
farther and basically everybody, and you know, Rory's been chilling
at whatever three twenty three thirty now for a while
and most of the top guys, So I doubt it happens.
But if it does. I'm also not gonna complain. I
don't really care one way or the other. I guess

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for the health of the professional game, you would bring
in a lot more courses if they hit it whatever
thirty yards shorter, So Rory would go from three point
thirty to three or five, and the guys into three
hundred would go to two seventy. It would still be
a huge advantage for Rory, for bryceon for Xander. They're

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never going back to the old school equipment in the
sense of little driver heads, but they could, you know,
lighten the potency of the driver for sure. Watching Ben
Griffin win the Colonial made me think, why don't more

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pros wear sunglasses? I might be assisty because I don't
think I'd get comfortable playing a round of golf on
a sunny day without shades. Just strikes me as unusual.
What's funny is I was on YouTube after the Saturday
round finished and I saw Ben Griffin giving his press conference,

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and in the press conference the headline was like I
believe I can take down Scotti. So I was like, oh,
forced me to click, and I clicked on it. Then
he was asked about the sunglasses why he's essentially what
you're saying, he wore sunglasses because he had I guess
holes in his I might be describing this incorrectly in
his retina, and he says he sees floaters, and I

(01:02:23):
was like, what floaters? What does he mean? He says,
basically black spots. So in the middle of the day
when the sun's out, he gets blurry vision. He had
to have a laser surgery to just make it so
it didn't get any worse. And these sunglasses are a
prescription that help him not see the floaters. Essentially, So

(01:02:44):
he's not wearing these strictly because it's sunny outside. He's
doing it because of an eye issue that he had.
I'm with you. I like wearing I don't have great vision,
and the polaroid von Zippers or whatever golf glass as
I wear help me see I feel like I do

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think golfers one, they don't need to watch their ball really,
like off the tee, right, the hardest thing ball to
see clearly is off the tee because if we're one
hundred and sixty in, even if you don't have great vision,
you can see where the ball lands yet off the
tee if you hit it decently far two hundred and
fifty plus yards. It's easy to like, where's my ball?

(01:03:25):
Where these guys? There's a fucking guy there with a
flag and you have a caddy. So even if you
don't see that, well, who cares. I The reason he
wears is because of the eyes. Question about Rory faded
into irrelevance after the Master's dodging the media. Where's the fight?
It's kind of sad because it did feel like, honestly,

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it's a defining moment for Scotty. It was like he said, no,
this is not happening on my watch. This ain't Rory's year,
just because last year was my year, It's gonna be
my year again. So why I think we respect so
much about the best players. I'm not a Lebron James guy,
but I do respect how hard he's worked to maintain

(01:04:08):
his level of play. You know him and Steph Curry
playing at such a high level at thirty seven and
forty years old like that takes a lot of grind,
That takes a lot of inner fire. It's what defined
Brady and Tiger and Jordan and Kobe and Scott. He
has that clearly, so it's what makes us gravitate towards

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certain individuals. Is that quality? Okay? Last question? Quick question
on Ben Griffin. Lots have been made that he was

(01:04:52):
broke out on the golf course for two years. During
that time, some friends agreed to stake him for two
years while he worked his way to the PGA Tour,
either on corn Ferry or the PGA. What type of
financial arrangement would be typical in this case? Would they
pay his expenses for two years or get a future

(01:05:16):
cut of his earnings, just a repayment of the money
outlaid or something else. We hear this happening a lot
in basketball and football pre nil where the agent would
give the player money to work out ahead of the
draft tryouts. But how often does this happen in golf?
I think it happens a decent amount in like music,

(01:05:36):
in individual sports, and specifically in golf, because, like in baseball,
if I'm in the minor leagues, the team's still paying, right,
I'm not making much money, but the team's paying for
my housing. The team's paying at least giving me a
little stipend. In golf, no one gives you anything, So
if you're kind of a nobody and you don't have
a club sponsor, a clothing sponsor, you have no cash

(01:05:58):
coming in. You need some money to be able to survive.
So an example is last year, a couple of years ago, Doherty,
he plays on the corn Ferry Tour. He actually lives
out here in Arizona. I think Riggs at Barstool met him.
He was catting at a country club here at silver

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Leaf for a ram place and female and they met him,
he liked him, they played it. Maybe it was at
mesa country club I forget, and Riggs kind of heard
his story and then played with him and realized he
was really good. He didn't have any money, and Riggs
gave him fifty thousand dollars and didn't even say like
you don't even need to pay me back, like I'm

(01:06:39):
just here to help. And Doherty, I think, was one
stroke away from getting his PGA Tour card last year,
made hundreds of thousands of dollars last year on the
corn Fery. So you get examples of someone just giving
you fifty grand, one hundred grand, like this is gonna
be money, there's gonna go towards your travel and just
to help you live. Then there are the cases females

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going through this or someone basically I will fund your
early career for ten percent of your earnings and perpetuity.
That deal is fucking terrible if you hit a big
because if you become female, I gotta pay this guy
for the rest of my life at ten percent. Some
of these deals are simply like, hey, listen, I'm here

(01:07:20):
to help you out. Send me the bills, or here's
one hundred grand, just pay me back. And typically if
I can give you a one hundred grand, if I'm
not taking like a helock out against my home or
you know, a second mortgage, which I guess would be
a he lock, just selling a bunch of stock to
help you out, are those type people gonna pay you back.

(01:07:40):
So I think if it's a friend doing it, it's
like I just start. When you make a big fucking
bring me to some tournaments, never forget where I was.
That's how If I knew someone in that situation and
could financially help them, I think that'd be pretty cool,
especially if you believed in the player. I think a
lot of time it's what you talked about, it's what

(01:08:03):
happens in football and basketball. I'll give you a two
hundred grand right now, but for the first five years,
if you make it, I want twenty percent of every
penny you earn. And sometimes people are so desperate that
they do that, and it's just it's a shitty deal always. Now,
I think the other person would argue, well, it's like

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they didn't have anything, where would they be without me? True,
But then it's just simply like a business proposition and
you're you know, I'll give you a little now for
a lot to come. I don't know if that's exactly
the definition of loan sharking, but I think there's always
been elements of that with agents pre nil and I

(01:08:45):
think in golf sometimes it happens. And listen, if you
are young and you don't have any money, and you're like,
how am I going to pay to do all this?
And someone gives you that proposition, you almost have to
say yes, and it's like you look back ten years ago,
it's like, I can't just pay you back. You know,
it's I do get it. But usually those people are

(01:09:06):
kind of praying on people the situations. I was at
this farmer's party probably like three or four years ago
with my brother. My brother went to Fresno State, and
his college roommate is now like works for one of
the biggest almond farmers in America. John Party, the country musician,

(01:09:29):
is from northern California, and this farmer knows him. So
this farmer, big ego guy, rich guy through this party
in the Central Valley by Fresno for like invited like
twenty five hundred people and Joan Jet and John Party played,
and then there was an after party and somehow in
this room, my brother John Party and me ended up

(01:09:52):
with like a twelve back and we're just drinking corpse light,
just bullshit with John Party. And John Party told this
story about this this guy that started this company called
Cou YOUU, which is a really kind of big up
and I don't even think it's up and coming anymore,
but it's a hunting company that they were both from
the same hometown. And the guy that started COO You
had played footballt Uc Davis and told John at one

(01:10:13):
point in time like, listen, man, you can't stay here.
You need to go to Nashville. And John's like, can't.
I can't afford to go there. And I don't know
exactly now the money the guy gave John, but he
gave him thousands of dollars and he's like, the only
reason I moved to Nashville was because Jason, who has

(01:10:33):
since passed away, but funded his career plight out there
and John loved this guy. And I don't think Jason
asked for anything back, And I think sometimes that's the
ideal situation. The situation Tony's in are the messy ones.
I think you see that a lot in golf and
sometimes in basketball too, where you get these guys that

(01:10:54):
fucking prey on you and take advantage of you when
you don't even know what the hell's going on, and
then they signed these contracts that like, I own you
for the rest of my career. It's just that's crazy.
So I appreciate anyone that just, you know, if you
have the means, just help someone out and then if
that person ends up paying you back, awesome. And if

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he doesn't, as long as he's like invites you to
shit every once in a while and like recognizes that
he wouldn't have been there without you, And that's a
pretty powerful thing to do. And props to everyone who's
ever done that the right way and not tried to
like bloodsuck off a little investment. And usually when they

(01:11:36):
do that, they do it to a lot of people
and they hope one or two hit and then they
then they profit. So long winded way of saying audios,
the volume